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That's because no one cared about cumulative stats. That was just a trivia question. Players were evaluated by how they dominated their competition not what numbers they end up with after a long career. Career numbers have no context or meaning.

Jordan retired with most people crowning him the GOAT. Whether that was deserved or not, that was the case. He measured himself against his peers, specifically Magic and Bird and by 3-peating felt like he surpassed them and most people did as well. There wasn’t a Kareem/Jordan comparison really made. I’m sure if he constantly heard he wasn’t as...

To be fair, as it’s been pointed out before including in the Last Dance, he did mention to people that he would consider retiring after the 93 season even before his dad was killed. With that said, you have to be completely delusional to think his father’s murder had absolutely no impact on his decision. It most likely swayed him more in that...

MJ played to dominate his peers not to hoard cumulative career stats. That's pretty obvious. MJ often sat on the bench or took his foot off the pedal when the game was out of reach. Like scoring 35 points in the first half of a Finals game then only 4 more after that.

He lost twice as the favourite 09 & 11 And against the Magic he near averaged a 40 point triple double so you can't put that loss on him 2007 - massive underdog 2008 - massive underdog 2014 - underdog 2015 - underdog 2017 - massive underdog 2018 - massive underdog

But is that all you have? This is what I mean when I say the arguments are getting weaker for Bron. Can you explain away the 7 losses when he was favorite? Gotta stay on topic.

oh highwhey. you'll like this:

alright well that's fair. so in a nutshell we can agree that Democrats are full of shit and don't enact policy that they say they're about? i give trump no breaks on ukraine or epstein but he's following through on his domestic agenda, something democrats never do.

Republicans apparently stand up for pdf files so there’s that.

Really? Half of them believe that Democrats will lead to the literal destruction of society. The end of the world as we know it. They point to homeless shelters in San Fran and declare that is what the whole world will be. :oldlol:

If your entire point was that they don't follow through on what they do "stand for" then you should have just said that instead of "they don't stand for anything". Although I am not sure how they are any worse than the GOP there when we are seeing Trump fund Ukraine, and now the Epstein fiasco, etc. Both sides are guilty of this.

terrified? can you elaborate?

this is just absolutely ridiculous. first you're telling me that they want this, that they want that but then you turn around and tell me, well... maybe they don't end up following through on it... but they're politicians so in effect the dem voter base just gets played in the end. so they stand for nothing. republicans are...

He should spell his f-in name like it's pronounced. Yeger Djemin I like his game though. The shot will come around, his form looks good.

Kind of an important word you left out there. The only way the dumbocrats want to help them is when it comes to voting. That's the only reason why they want illegals in the United States. That's already been established.

I did in the quote lol. They are just barely left of center. Answer me this, if the Democrats don't actually do anything. Why are conservatives terrified of them?

The only part to debate is the economic part. They want the wealthiest to pay the most taxes, the want higher min wages, welfare, more available and affordable healthcare, more Gov spending on social services vs the military, etc I mean, maybe they don't follow through as well as they promise, politicians are politicians. But that is what they...

attacking illegal immigration is far right? the big beautiful bill is far right too? tariffs??? lol. sounds like republican orthodoxy 101 to me. you can't pinpoint the biden presidency on the political spectrum because there's nothing to base it off of. that's why they're called the do-nothing democrats. it was trump bad, trump bad all...

i don't think so. make an argument.

I'll say that Democrats are the less extreme of the two parties. Biden admin was just barely left of center. While the Trump admin is pretty far right and captures the most extreme types. While most extreme progressives reject the Dems. So maybe that is what you mean.

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socially or economically?

Really? Democrats are generally on the left side of the political spectrum while Republicans are on the right. Currently anyway. And generally speaking, they want progression. Although true progressives do not consider Dems to be that progressive. But all the major issues are generally on the opposite end of the GOP stances. More gun reform, more...

one thing that's important to keep in mind going forward. everyone in washington knows at this point that the files aren't going to be released so... if you're wise you won't get caught up in the bullshit you hear from anyone in congress.

This dude typed that out with a straight face to suggest all those guys were MVP types( either in general or when Shaq was playing with them). Half of those names were role players when he played with them, or he himself was a role player by then, or they were never MVP level. Dude just casually dropped Eddie Jones( who was nice) in a post talking...

I'm gonna play your game. I don't care about any of this shit, its meaningless gripes. You can't argue for 20 players on the court being better nor could you pick out 20 better resumes. How he went about his career as far as leaving teams or whatever is your little bitch fest of issues. Honestly I skimmed over most of your post because I already...

Woah... what the **** do you mean by "you people" ?

Mixed. There were a few gambles made that haven't paid off so far. At the end of day, paying massive contracts to guys like Freddie and Fried just isn't in his MO. And before now things have paid off. It's not really his fault though that injuries have been such a factor the last couple of years (allowing very little continuity and rhythm to be...

Remember when Cleveland drafted Anthony Bennett and Johnny Manziel

democrats are so easy to expose because they don't stand for anything but the other guy being bad. it's why they love trump so much because they see him as an easy target. of course we all know the funny thing about it is that trump beat them twice, and damn near three times by just a very slim margin across three swing states in 2020. ...