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Reminder - the narratives of MJ being "just a scorer" are statistically-false since MJ actually averaged more playoff APG for the first half of their chips (85-93' vs 06-14') The "just a scorer" narrative is probably the most egregiously-false, since MJ actually passed more than Lebron to win his first 3 chips and also averaged more APG during...

Jokes and trolling aside, of course longevity matters in all debates. Career rankings are overwhelmingly based on longevity. If they weren't, as an example, Shaquille O'Neal is probably the greatest of all time, as I'd take 2000 O'Neal versus anyone for basically anything. Do any of us actually know the answer to this question? I think...

They are going to win @ Brooklyn on the 23rd to give themselves a Christmas present.

Also since we're just looking at peak and longevity doesn't matter, forget about an entire game. Let's just look at one play. Who has a more impressive play in NBA history than Curry in OKC? GOAT confirmed?

It's not an NBA championship. But it's not nothing either. To me it sounds like you only just realized what sports really is. These guys aren't Gladiators or some shit. They don't play for any actual stakes. There isn't even much money on the line to win or lose. The role player who wins a ring makes less money than some glorified chucker who...

Not bad.

Carmelo certainly doesn't belong on a list with the others

good thing winning isn't taken in to account! :roll:

Also Joel Embiid has a higher PER than Jordan. Just simply better.

Also playing with a guy like Turkoglu who knew how to pass was a much better fit for Dwight than playing with Kobe and Harden who just expected him to rebound.

If longevity doesn't matter, we can boil this down all the way to absolute peak aka absolute peak game. Therefore, Wilt is the GOAT.

I dont think he got more votes than other guys because he was more popular, just that the wing position was more crowded so those guys split votes. Howard really had no rivals at his position so he was a pretty easy lock on every ballot.

WS is a function of games played, so WS per 48 is the stat to use, where MJ's is higher of course. Overall, MJ has higher PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, plus/minus, raptor, usage (possessions used) and ORTG (efficiency on those possessions) there's no statistical case for bron except bs longevity (playing at a lower level for longer)

LeBron >>>> Jordan all time in WS. Jordan barely > LeBron all time in PER. Therefore, LeBron >> Jordan.

No because people just go by accolades and as we've discussed previously, Pippen's accolades are a result of unprecedented winning spotlight his production rate stats like PER or WS say that he's about 140th all-time, but the winning spotlight inflated him to top 30.. aka the most overrated player ever. ultimately, every notable 90's...

in terms of just passing out of the pnr chris paul is better than steph curry so you're right chris paul is no steph curry. Jokic is the best midrange shooter maybe in the league and creates his own offense on high usg. Ayton is a low usage guy who scores mostly off assists. You cannot compare them besides foul rate and yes jokic gets screwed...

So make the poll then.

Hong Kong is sort of it's own thing...along with Taiwan and proper Chinese films. I liked Killers of the Flower Moon I didn't love it. It had a number of narrative issues due to casting and it felt like the victims and killers were all underwritten and just throwaway. 1. Goodfellas 2. Silence 3. Gangs of New York 4. Raging Bull 5. Hugo...

3 Lebron topics in the last 24 hours. Are you ok?

. The only guys that Pippen occasionally outscored (with worst-ever efficiency and clutch) were opposing guards that were underperforming against MJ like Dumars or Starks, but otherwise Pippen was DESTROYED by opposing forwards and long wings, as shown below: 92' X-Man'............. 19 on 50% (3rd option) 92' Pippen............. 16 on 40%...

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Pippen outperformed other "sidekicks" more times than not with the Bulls in the 90's. OP is correct, Pippen is a little overrated and the 90's Bulls teams would win only 2, maybe 3 rings in the NBA post 2006. Jordan was lucky to play when he did, though he is still the GOAT.

This is correct. NFL = Super Bowl. Baseball = World Series. That's it, period. One championship team each year. Up next year, is the NBA going to host a summer and pre-season classic? What's disappointing to me is the NBA/EPSN hyped up the early season scrimmage cup tourney more than the damn NBA finals. Sorry Silver, you'll never get...

Every notable sidekick in the 90's was a "1b" that frequently led their team in the playoffs with elite stats, while Pippen never achieved elite stats or led the Bulls alongside MJ: * In the 92' WCF, Terry Porter averaged 26 points and 8 assists with 53% shooting from 3 (6 attempts) to carry the Blazers to the Finals.. He had these same...

Because it's stupid. These are regular season games that are being propagandized to being worth a damn. The only thing that ever matters is the championship ring. The NBA and the media can dress up a cow patty, spray it with expensive cologne and hang it on the wall like an ornament but it will still be sh*t. I didn't watch one second of...

contender? :lol