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Another thing to keep in mind that Kawhi wanted PG13 so it was kind of a package deal. Obviously it's been a disaster but i dont remember people at the time making a big deal about SGA being part of it.

The discussion is clearly about the logic behind the trade when it happened. Obviously, the SGA trade is catastrophic in hindsight, but at the time, trying to lock up a guy in contention as the best in the world and coming off a FMVP run in Kawhi while also adding another two way player coming off a career year and an All-NBA 1st Team nod in PG...

Well hopefully as the Mavs continue to suck they will still cheer to fire Nico, even though he's already been fired.

He missed his 3s but was good outside of that. 3 steals, 7 rebounds, 4-6 on 2s.

No. People were talking about how that trade was bad at the time but there weren't AS MANY people saying it was the worst trade in NBA history. That's what we're talking about. It didn't even require hindsight. It didn't require waiting. Everyone knew how atrociously bad it was in the moment. That's what makes it the worst. Long term...

Your premise, that the actual results of the trade don't matter, is completely wrong.

Well deserved! Does anyone else believe that the threat of a trade could have done just as much as the trade itself in motivating Luka to get in shape?

That's not how that works at all. You're talking about with the benefit of 100% hindsight. Proctor is without question directly addressing what it obviously was in the moment, which was pure stupidity. Speculation wasn't needed. We didn't need a year or 5 to see how it would play out. It was just immediately bad.

SGA plus picks and assets for Paul George will always be worse.

It was, and will continue to be the worst trade in NBA history he made...out of shape Luka or not. I don't care to go too far re-hashing this point again but it is worth noting that the team was expertly crafted around Luka and was in every position to contend at the highest level (not to mention a year removed from just doing so). It wasn't...

Ideally it wouldn't come from printing up extra because that is inflationary. Ideally it would come from the tax dollars of the wealthy. Healthcare needs the exact same help, it is becoming unafforable to the middle and lower classes. Our tax dollars are much better off serving our own citizens in this way than building more stealth bombers.

Done nothing but impressed me. Wouldnt expect a troll to get it. He will be telling svi and kyle anderson are better!:roll: Clayton is 22 and played 4 years of college and he hasnt looked as good

wut

Kobe is a far lower producer than Lebron. Simple fact. Not worth comparing the two. Move on.

Since they cant just print extra money, where would you spend less? The industry that does the most when cut is immigration

Awful so far. Clayton has looked pretty good

Bingo.

Best game. Capped by a reverse dunk

This right here specifically is what almost indisputably points away from the idea that the ownership initiated the trade idea. Even if ownership just wanted to cut costs and salary dump and start over and whatever else, they could have fielded offers and had a field day with picks.

The problem is it was unlikely we would ever see that. Davis is injury prone. Kyrie might have decided birthday parties were more important. I can see trading luka. Trading him for davis without looking at other offers was idiotic.

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May go down as the most epic blunder in NBA history, at least in recent memory. I don't know if that's slightly hyperbolic but man what a fukk-up.

This is what I felt happened. Ownership asn't happy with Doncic's conditioning and attitude for $300+ million and they told Nico to move him. It makes no sense they'd do it out of nowhere randomly like it happened. Someone above him told him to move Doncic.

No, Nico is not the fall guy. He is truly that incompetent and funnily enough it seems to stem from a pride problem, lol. Maybe kblaze is Nico. It was a weird set of circumstances. A new owner that knows absolutely nothing about basketball combined with a prideful GM who went to said owner and got Cuban cut out after the deal for the franchise...

:roll: Perfect, I can now sign off the internet for today. But generally speaking and without obviously being on the inside of these organizations, is Nico the fall guy here? Like, whose idea was this to trade Luka and come up with this grand plan in the first place? Did Nico go to the owners, or did they say we don't want to pay the supermax?...

forgot cooper lauren jackson a'ja wilson cynthia cooper michael jordan elena delle donne nikola jokic lebron james tamika catchings

How did he do? Didnt watch nor even look it up

The entire problem with the housing market is just a capitalism thing. It is a very simple issue of supply and demand. Low supply/high demand = high prices. A REAL solution? The Gov should flat out give people financial help when buying a home based on their own personal income. A family of 4 making $80k a year total? That family needs real...

MTG talking more and more like a liberal. I wonder if she would turn Democrat after 2 hours of introspective thought.