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Y'all remember when Chicago started running the offense through Noah in 2013-14? Got him some MVP votes. A very unusual player.

In 2023? It's not even close. I personally find Wallace a little overrated even in his own era. Some guys get lucky to be in the perfect situation, and the team's success lifts their reputation a little higher than what it otherwise would be. When he went to the Bulls he was absolute ass who made no impact. Same with Perkins when he left...

One of the most horrific days in human history.

Whoever taught Noah to shoot cost him millions in career earnings.

Udoka use the word bitch and that’s a trigger word for LeBron, because he’s insecure how he feels about himself. He consistently tries to fight or get fans thrown out of games when he hears this word thrown at him. Very much a trigger word. Must be how he views himself to get that rattled over it.

Without trying to find modern equivalents... The 94 Rockets' role players played good defense and could really knock down threes. They wouldn't be the title favorite but they would be a dangerous underdog like they were back then. You definitely don't want to face playoff Hakeem surrounded by a bunch of 3&D guys.

Nah. Russell and Wilt have multiple.

Kobe was unlucky in that he peaked in years (2006 and 2007) when his supporting casts were garbage. He probably doesn't average far above 30 ppg on a contender but his efficiency and creation would be much higher. To answer OP, I'd give the MVP to West over Unseld in 1969 and DPOY to Duncan over Camby in 2007.

If I was having to re work historical MVPs, and DPOYs to those who never got one 1994 DPOY - Pippen 2003 MVP - T-Mac 2008 MVP - CP3 2009 MVP - D-Wade 2013 DPOY - LeBron Are the only ones that spring to mind.

MVP - CP3 over Kobe in 2008 DPOY - LeBron over Marc Gasol in 2013

This man never fails to LeAmaze me

Twitter is not doing all that great anyways. It's slowly falling in active users since elon took over.

Imagine what this guy could do if he was younger...... .....LOL

What do you think is the likelihood of Biden dying in office if he gets elected a 2nd time? Is Kamala Harris the most forgettable VP ever? How ****ed will the country be if Harris takes over for sleepy Joe? Will it be "joever" for the country? How much more orange will Trump get as we near election? Given that critical media coverage has been a...

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So Jordan decided to shoot 3s regularly in games but didn't bother to practice them beforehand? Cool story bro

Wow, this is quite the big brained take. So when conservatives talk about the fact that they are being silenced on mainstream social media platforms, that constitutes as whining? They shouldn't be rightly upset over that fact? It's a bad thing that Musk took over and gave both sides a voice?

Huffers or fluffers?

Since I made varsity without practice. I woulda been an NBA star with practice. btw did you know I dunked on Zach Randolph? His brother too!

Those who honestly and truthfully desire to know Trump's thoughts are on Truth Social reading them. The pretenders who just want to whine and complain about free speech and "own libs" are on X doing that now. There are more people consumed in the tribalism of it all than those who actually desire Trump's thoughts. I suspect you are just that....

Truth Social doesn't have anywhere near the reach that Twitter has. In fact he relies on his followers and cronies sharing his stuff on Twitter, otherwise he couldn't get the word out. It's not a good sign for the country when dissenting voices have no choice but to resort to indie and underground platforms with a fraction of the reach because...

No where anywhere did I say "censorship is good". That's a strawman. I'm saying that the internet is a huge place where anyone can find anything. The fact that Trump created his own Twitter to reach his followers proves my point. Twitter didn't silence Trump, if you want to know Trump's thoughts they are readily available.

Eh nothing would change. They're both puppets following orders for the most part. Harris has way less pull than Biden though and is probably even more of a puppet. I can't lie, there is a part of me that wants to see it happen just to witness the hell unfold. Maybe that would finally wake people up. She'll be even more protected than Obama....

Notice he's avoiding the thread now :oldlol:

Oh god you're still going? Trump isn't active on Twitter now because he launched his own (failing) platform in Truth Social and is obligated to post there. It's not like he's staying off Twitter post-Musk because he doesn't feel welcome. Essentially what you're arguing here is that "censorship is good actually" because it turns people into...

I'm making an assumption that Jordan would shoot well at today's volume based on a record of MJ doing exactly that, while you're assuming something that there's no record of - there's no record of MJ shooting below today's standard at 3+ attempts, so to assume that he would is the deluded conclusion, while the logical conclusion goes by the data...

Relatively speaking, Hakeem's scoring got better and better against good defenses in the playoffs. His moves weren't super efficient overall but they were impossible to take away so against the best defenses those difficult moves became a pretty good option. Hakeem's weakness for most of his career was weak passing but in the mid 90's they...

From the shortened line, Jordan shot 40.4% on 3.3 attempts in the 95-97' regular seasons, which would drastically improve the 36.4% number that he shot from the regular line at 3+ attempts.. However, we're evaluating Jordan's ability to play in today's game, so only the regular line matters - his long 2 percentage (the shortened line) doesn't...