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LC loves ISH
08-18-2008, 02:26 AM
Apparently Monte got a ton of new ink this summer, anyone have pix? I don't recall him having any tattoos before, but now I'm hearing his arms are all inked out.

baseketball4life
08-18-2008, 02:29 AM
Following in J.R Smith's footsteps :rockon:

http://assets.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/10026/montatatsyh7.png

LC loves ISH
08-18-2008, 02:32 AM
Following in J.R Smith's footsteps :rockon:

Have you seen pix?

G-train
08-18-2008, 02:33 AM
Following in J.R Smith's footsteps :rockon:

lets hope not

baseketball4life
08-18-2008, 02:34 AM
Have you seen pix?
yeah i posted it

Rameek
08-18-2008, 02:35 AM
Now he has street cred:bowdown: :cheers:

starface
08-18-2008, 02:36 AM
Following in J.R Smith's footsteps :rockon:

http://assets.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/10026/montatatsyh7.png

ewwwwww


what a disappointment

baseketball4life
08-18-2008, 02:37 AM
ewwwwww


what a disappointment
haha h8ter

KobesOneUglyTat
08-18-2008, 02:44 AM
Wow, he just made himself much less marketable. You'd think the guys who resisited the urge to get all tatted up in their teens while they were young and reckless wouldn't ruin everything once they're adults.

The only acceptable tats are ones you get as a dumb teenager. Adults getting tats=not cool

baseketball4life
08-18-2008, 02:47 AM
Wow, he just made himself much less marketable. You'd think the guys who resisited the urge to get all tatted up in their teens while they were young and reckless wouldn't ruin everything once they're adults.

The only acceptable tats are ones you get as a dumb teenager. Adults getting tats=not cool
it worked for Allen Iverson, as far as marketing, they actually used his tattoo's in a Reebok commerial, taking the camera through every single one. I don't think this will damage anything marketing wise.

KobesOneUglyTat
08-18-2008, 02:51 AM
it worked for Allen Iverson, as far as marketing, they actually used his tattoo's in a Reebok commerial, taking the camera through every single one. I don't think this will damage anything marketing wise.

Iverson could have made millions more in endorsements with a clean-cut image. Generally madison avenue doesn't like tattoos, becasue the hip-hop "street" subculture isn't where most of the money comes in, the $$$ come from the guys in suits and rich snobby white people.

Rameek
08-18-2008, 02:54 AM
Wow, he just made himself much less marketable. You'd think the guys who resisited the urge to get all tatted up in their teens while they were young and reckless wouldn't ruin everything once they're adults.

The only acceptable tats are ones you get as a dumb teenager. Adults getting tats=not cool
LBJ much?:confusedshrug:

It is part of a culture that you may not like... :cheers:

KobesOneUglyTat
08-18-2008, 03:00 AM
LBJ much?:confusedshrug:

It is part of a culture that you may not like... :cheers:

LeBron was doing more commercials when he only had a couple tats. Remember the LeBrons ad where he dives from way up above into a pool? He barely had any tattoos. For some reason he started adding a bunch more around 2006.

G-train
08-18-2008, 03:16 AM
So did he have no tattoos prior to this?

Rameek
08-18-2008, 03:16 AM
LeBron was doing more commercials when he only had a couple tats. Remember the LeBrons ad where he dives from way up above into a pool? He barely had any tattoos. For some reason he started adding a bunch more around 2006.
Its part of a culture... :cheers:

Some people might not like it or understand it... thats just the reality.:cheers:

Commercial success shouldnt be determined by the tats if they are not offensive in any way. Plus why wouldnt they be used in marketing who are they going to sell stuff to? old white people or young people. :confusedshrug:

KobesOneUglyTat
08-18-2008, 03:20 AM
So did he have no tattoos prior to this?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2108/2216386312_4f4571128e.jpg?v=0

I don't think he had a single one.

brandonislegend
08-18-2008, 03:23 AM
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

FireMcFailPlease
08-18-2008, 03:30 AM
So dumb looking.

JR Smith looks the worst though, with those chester cheetah spots all over his arms

RoseCity07
08-18-2008, 03:44 AM
Tatoo's are just retarded, people wanting to seem hardcore. My brother got 3 last year and I probably will never get one. I mean I've tried to think of something meaningful, but when I think of something I think of how stupid it is to want that on my body. I can just print it out on a piece of paper and post it on my wall if I want to look at that image. I don't need people to think I'm mysterious because I got some quote or symbol on my arm.

T-Low
08-18-2008, 03:44 AM
So dumb looking.

JR Smith looks the worst though, with those chester cheetah spots all over his arms

So you're tellin me that wasn't a sexually transmitted disease?

brandonislegend
08-18-2008, 03:45 AM
Tatoo's are just retarded, people wanting to seem hardcore. My brother got 3 last year and I probably will never get one. I mean I've tried to think of something meaningful, but when I think of something I think of how stupid it is to want that on my body. I can just print it out on a piece of paper and post it on my wall if I want to look at that image. I don't need people to think I'm mysterious because I got some quote or symbol on my arm.

probly the only thing i will ever agree with you on :cheers:

23airjordan23
08-18-2008, 03:50 AM
I dont see the problem with nba players having tats who are we to judge.

baseketball4life
08-18-2008, 03:56 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2108/2216386312_4f4571128e.jpg?v=0

I don't think he had a single one.
he had one, on his inner forearm, it is hard to see

http://images.quickblogcast.com/114660-107014/monta_ellis_tattoo.jpg

ween0t
08-18-2008, 04:30 AM
he had one, on his inner forearm, it is hard to see

http://images.quickblogcast.com/114660-107014/monta_ellis_tattoo.jpg


yeah he got that one toward the end of last season. i think it was after the all star break or something.

Grinder
08-18-2008, 04:38 AM
Monta, why?

Damn it.

StroShow4
08-18-2008, 08:45 AM
Following in J.R Smith's footsteps :rockon:

why do these guys think looking like a leopard is cool? i have no problem with a couple tats, but JR completely over did it, his arms look like a crumpled up news paper or something.

Meticode
08-18-2008, 08:52 AM
Dear Monta Ellis,

You run as fast as a cheeta. Now you look like one, thank you.

Interminator
08-18-2008, 08:57 AM
LeBron was doing more commercials when he only had a couple tats. Remember the LeBrons ad where he dives from way up above into a pool? He barely had any tattoos. For some reason he started adding a bunch more around 2006.
Has it hurt Kobe's image?

He's prolly considered one of the least Hip Hop players in the NBA even though he recorded a Hip Hop album.:roll: :roll:

StroShow4
08-18-2008, 09:03 AM
Dear Monta Ellis,

You run as fast as a cheeta. Now you look like one, thank you.

:oldlol: :oldlol:

step_back
08-18-2008, 09:14 AM
tats in the league are just part of the fashion, as far as marketing is concerned it could have a negative impact on your image although it didn't hurt lebron

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1700438.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939057D9939C83F1068573154D4E16BA29 5A5397277B4DC33E

to this

http://api.ning.com/files/y43g75DEG9ya0Mi9veTCqxjgkzpDUacHHbH974ojIRU_/LebronJamesPortrait.jpg

ukballer
08-18-2008, 09:33 AM
I say let the kid do what he wants, though personal taste suggests he should quit now, but people here are overexaggerating it comparing it to JR.

It's not like And1 are suddenly going to drop him is it? :confusedshrug:

mamba314
08-18-2008, 09:45 AM
Dwayne Wade is like the only player in the league who doesn't have tattoos that gets tons of endorsements, LeBron, A.I, Carmelo, Kobe, are all tattooed and it doesn't seem to be a problem for them.

pethuel03
08-18-2008, 10:21 AM
Dear Monta Ellis,

You run as fast as a cheeta. Now you look like one, thank you.

hahaha :roll: :roll: :roll:

Heretik32
08-18-2008, 10:29 AM
Tatoo's are just retarded, people wanting to seem hardcore.

Yeah right, go ahead and judge a culture you don't understand. Way to go:confusedshrug:

LC loves ISH
08-18-2008, 07:45 PM
If you're gonna get tattoos at least get 'em slowly and pick out some high quality art instead of getting a bunch or crappy ones done in a matter of months.

baseketball4life
08-18-2008, 08:40 PM
If you're gonna get tattoos at least get 'em slowly and pick out some high quality art instead of getting a bunch or crappy ones done in a matter of months.
from what I hear they get addicting, once you get one the next day you want another. And if your rich, you often get another really soon, and another and another and another.

RoseCity07
08-18-2008, 09:13 PM
Yeah right, go ahead and judge a culture you don't understand. Way to go:confusedshrug:

A culture, haha. Yeah getting drawing put on your body makes a lot of sense. 99% of teenage kids just get them because someone else got one so they want to fit in. How many times have you seen a kid with a chinese symbol that you have no idea what the hell it means? Then you have to take their word for it that it means : Soul, loyalty, love, or whatever kind of crap they want people to think they stand for.

My cousin has this giant bull skull tatted on his back. What for? Just plain dumb.

FashionIssues
08-18-2008, 09:19 PM
another pic
http://i37.tinypic.com/2lxzbfd.jpg

wtf @ deshawn's :oldlol:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/nickfairclough/D-Steves2Tat.jpg

Heretik32
08-19-2008, 04:48 AM
My cousin has this giant bull skull tatted on his back. What for? Just plain dumb.

So just cause your relatives are dumb as **** makes tattooing dumb, too?

It's always easy to judge something from the outside looking in. Don't even get me started on things like religion... getting ink etched into your skin is nothing compared to that nonsense.

Sroek
08-19-2008, 05:33 AM
A culture, haha. Yeah getting drawing put on your body makes a lot of sense. 99% of teenage kids just get them because someone else got one so they want to fit in. How many times have you seen a kid with a chinese symbol that you have no idea what the hell it means? Then you have to take their word for it that it means : Soul, loyalty, love, or whatever kind of crap they want people to think they stand for.

My cousin has this giant bull skull tatted on his back. What for? Just plain dumb.

Tattoos have existed for ages and they mean different things to different cultures. The Yakuza get full body suits of ancient Japanese artwork using traditional inking methods. Certain tribes across the world use tattooing as a rite of passage or to signify rank and seniority. In modern western pop culture, it's merely a fashion statement, and there's nothing wrong with that. Don't bash what you don't understand. Perhaps you're simply insecure that you don't have a tattoo and are trying to justify it by bashing those who do, which just makes you sound like a little b*tch.

RoseCity07
08-19-2008, 05:34 AM
So just cause your relatives are dumb as **** makes tattooing dumb, too?

It's always easy to judge something from the outside looking in. Don't even get me started on things like religion... getting ink etched into your skin is nothing compared to that nonsense.

I'm not against it for any other reason than I think it looks bad and will look worse when that person gets old. I hate religion and the control freaks that try and force their beliefs onto other people. I was just reading a chapter about how Phil Jackson's parents were very religious and he rebelled from it (all his brothers did too). It takes intelligence to realize how much BS religion. Sort of makes me have even more respect for Phil Jackson knowing the kind of child hood he had.

RoseCity07
08-19-2008, 05:39 AM
Tattoos have existed for ages and they mean different things to different cultures. The Yakuza get full body suits of ancient Japanese artwork using traditional inking methods. Certain tribes across the world use tattooing as a rite of passage or to signify rank and seniority. In modern western pop culture, it's merely a fashion statement, and there's nothing wrong with that. Don't bash what you don't understand. Perhaps you're simply insecure that you don't have a tattoo and are trying to justify it by bashing those who do, which just makes you sound like a little b*tch.

Why would I be insecure about not having something I don't want in the first place? I know a lot about fashion and I read a lot about brand called Ed Hardy (I like their shirts). Yes those shirts that you happen to see every celebrity wearing around Los Angeles. It's based off of tatoo art which I think is pretty cool. You wear a shirt with something cool on it and then take it off. Not get something permanently drawn on your body, it's just so trendy to get a tattoo.

Heretik32
08-19-2008, 05:39 AM
I'm not against it for any other reason than I think it looks bad and will look worse when that person gets old.

Yeah, but that's your taste then, isn't it. It doesn't automatically make it bad for other people.

Sure it'll look different/worse when you get older, but then getting older never really improves one's looks, does it.

I personally wouldn't want to miss my tats, even though they're fading and will be getting saggy with age. Good tattoos are an expression of what you are, what you want to be and what you believe in.
And for the record, I too am sick of japanese characters on 17-year-olds.

RoseCity07
08-19-2008, 05:43 AM
Yeah, but that's your taste then, isn't it. It doesn't automatically make it bad for other people.

Sure it'll look different/worse when you get older, but then getting older never really improves one's looks, does it.

I personally wouldn't want to miss my tats, even though they're fading and will be getting saggy with age. Good tattoos are an expression of what you are, what you want to be and what you believe in.
And for the record, I too am sick of japanese characters on 17-year-olds.

This is where you lose me. I can't count the amount of times I see a girl at the mall with a tramp stamp and it's some butterfly or tiger or something they saw in their favorite movie. Does that mean they have an inner butterfly? lol.

Sroek
08-19-2008, 05:45 AM
Why would I be insecure about not having something I don't want in the first place? I know a lot about fashion and I read a lot about brand called Ed Hardy who that you happen to see every celebrity wearing. It's based off of tatoo art which I think is pretty cool. You wear a shirt with something cool on it and then take it off. Not get something permanently drawn on your body, it's just so trendy to get a tattoo.

We all live in temporary sacks of flesh, anyway. I can understand being anti-corporate fashion, where people spend ridiculous amounts of money for a pair of "designer" jeans and under-aged sweatshop laborers aren't paid anything over a measly buck for an entire day of work. But being anti-tattoo is illogical and dumb, since it's a personal choice which doesn't affect anybody else. Yes, it's trendy, so are a lot of things. Hating something just because it's trendy is so immature.

Kebab Stall
08-19-2008, 05:51 AM
If people want to get a tattoo, there should be nothing stopping them from doing so. Tattoo's certainly didn't start off as a fashion statement, as they are seen as today. As someone above me mentioned, tattooing in tribes symbolizes your rank, your history and your family. Polynesian tattoos are also the same, in that they symbolize your history, family and life. These are all done with ancient tattooing techniques, which have been passed on from generation to generation.

Personally I find Japanese style of tattooing to be the best. Not the characters and such, but their style of drawing animals, plants, water and objects is very intriguing and very artistc. I find it funny when I see people with Japanese or Chinese characters on their body, because they think it could mean one thing, but if the artist just gets one stroke wrong, then the character could mean something completely different. But, if they want to do that, then who am I to stop them.

RoseCity07
08-19-2008, 05:53 AM
We all live in temporary sacks of flesh, anyway. I can understand being anti-corporate fashion, where people spend ridiculous amounts of money for a pair of "designer" jeans and under-aged sweatshop laborers aren't paid anything over a measly buck for an entire day of work. But being anti-tattoo is illogical and dumb, since it's a personal choice which doesn't affect anybody else. Yes, it's trendy, so are a lot of things. Hating something just because it's trendy is so immature.

I don't hate anyone because of it. It's more like when I see someone flashing their tats it's like, "Who do you think you are?". That reminds me of another thing. Some people act like their tats are going to carry over into the next life, wtf is that about? I think part of me not liking tats is because I have lived in Mexico for summers before and it's looked down on. It's a symbol that you've been to prison or you're in a gang. I also think makes girls seem trashy when they have them. I mean for example Keyshia Cole to me looks hot, but when I see those tats it's like barf.

Sroek
08-19-2008, 05:56 AM
If people want to get a tattoo, there should be nothing stopping them from doing so. Tattoo's certainly didn't start off as a fashion statement, as they are seen as today. As someone above me mentioned, tattooing in tribes symbolizes your rank, your history and your family. Polynesian tattoos are also the same, in that they symbolize your history, family and life. These are all done with ancient tattooing techniques, which have been passed on from generation to generation.

Personally I find Japanese style of tattooing to be the best. Not the characters and such, but their style of drawing animals, plants, water and objects is very intriguing and very artistc. I find it funny when I see people with Japanese or Chinese characters on their body, because they think it could mean one thing, but if the artist just gets one stroke wrong, then the character could mean something completely different. But, if they want to do that, then who am I to stop them.

There are certain types of tattoos that are distasteful to me, such as tribal, gangster/hip-hop culture, Asian alphabets and tramp stamps. However, irezumi style, sleeves and large pieces are visually appealing. Especially if they are masterfully composed.

Sroek
08-19-2008, 06:02 AM
I don't hate anyone because of it. It's more like when I see someone flashing their tats it's like, "Who do you think you are?". That reminds me of another thing. Some people act like their tats are going to carry over into the next life, wtf is that about? I think part of me not liking tats is because I have lived in Mexico for summers before and it's looked down on. It's a symbol that you've been to prison or you're in a gang. I also think makes girls seem trashy when they have them. I mean for example Keyshia Cole to me looks hot, but when I see those tats it's like barf.

I see what you mean. I definitely despise horrible tattoos, but not tattoos in and of itself.

Kebab Stall
08-19-2008, 06:05 AM
There are certain types of tattoos that are distasteful to me, such as tribal, gangster/hip-hop culture, Asian alphabets and tramp stamps. However, irezumi style, sleeves and large pieces are visually appealing. Especially if they are masterfully composed.
Tribal is very annoying, it's just sharp lines and swirls, but like I said before if someone wants to get that style of tattoo then by all means get it. I certainly would never get a tribal tattoo. However, Polynesian tribal tattoos are very interesting.

These tattoos...http://independentvision.org/tatau.htm

>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.easytribe.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/tribal_tattoos.jpg


I also have a dislike for gangster/hip hop tattoos. So bascially the majority of the tattoos you see players in the NBA have, I dislike them. But, once again, that's their choice to get them and if they like them, then I don't care.

Sroek
08-19-2008, 06:10 AM
Biomechanical tattoos are sick, too.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2376159175_5523f2b4b9_m.jpg

Kebab Stall
08-19-2008, 06:18 AM
Sroek, check this site out...

http://www.tattooartists.org/

...it's full of thousands upon thousands of tattoos. Tonnes of different styles and all artistic designs. You might like it.

No_Look604
08-19-2008, 06:49 AM
I'm not against it for any other reason than I think it looks bad and will look worse when that person gets old. I hate religion and the control freaks that try and force their beliefs onto other people. I was just reading a chapter about how Phil Jackson's parents were very religious and he rebelled from it (all his brothers did too). It takes intelligence to realize how much BS religion. Sort of makes me have even more respect for Phil Jackson knowing the kind of child hood he had.

Just for the record, in the Baha'i Faith....we don't have religious leaders like priests and are encouraged to find the truths in readings....not to take the word of another, which could easily be mis-interpreted. (which has happened in Christianity & Islam when Jesus/Mohahmed used symbolic terms...people took them literally because that is what they were told).
Also, we don't encourage others to switch religions to become Baha'is...rather we just want people to realize we're all praying to the same god...which would lead to peace.
God has been sending us different prophets throughout humanity, all at different times...all with different messages & social laws that apply to it's day. Adam, Abraham, Krishna, Jesus, Mohahmed, Baha'u'llah to name a few.

UNITY IN DIVERSITY.

The world is but one country and mankind it's citizens.


Sorry for the preaching...it will be the last time. But for someone who just recently got in touch with faith after 5+ years without it....I felt the need to add my two cents.

Heretik32
08-19-2008, 06:51 AM
For me it's actually quite simple...

Look around. Look at the world.

Either there is no god...

or the god that permits that kind of bullshit to go on is an asshole that doesn't deserve to be worshipped.

Call me overly simplistic, but that's how I see it.

RoseCity07
08-19-2008, 06:58 AM
I just think it's funny when people talk about hell and heaven. As if you can describe such a place without using imagery from the things you've already seen here on earth. I mean fire, water, clouds, trees, all that stuff is already here, why would you die and go to a place with those things when they're already here? I remember what Tupac said about it, either you die and there is some place to go, or it's just quiet and there is nothing, no pain no feelings or anything. Either way it works out just fine. I've always agreed that what kind of god would need to be worshiped if he were so great already. lol

We all come into this world knowing nothing, and we all leave this world the same way.

No_Look604
08-19-2008, 07:07 AM
Oh and another thing...coming from a non-muslim.

Islam & Mohammed is a very positive religion....(except for the Shia Muslims in Iran who keep persecuting Baha'is in Iran)

It's religious leaders who have misinterpreted the writings and wrongfully informed people. It's a fact. This all leads to certain, harsh requirements.

Symbolic terms are used to make writings more beautiful...but are twisted into negativity when people can't realize the literal meanings in it.

A woman's word is worth only half of a man's and women having to cover up their bodies are a result of this.

Example:
To the days of Christianity woman have worn veils to cover up their heads when they pray. The Middle East is a desert where people constantly cover up their mouths due to dusty winds. Put those two together.
It is only suggested** in the Qu'ran that woman have their veils longer to cover up their breasts.
Now, 'cause of stupidity you see woman in Afghanistan completely covered except for their eyes. It's a shame.

Here's another....

There's a line which states "they are better off dead"...which Mohahmed is trying to say that no matter how much you preach to someone, some will never love God 'til their dying days...so don't bother wasting your energy.

These crazy religious fanatics have interpreted that as a greenlight to kill whoever!

And then there are Baha'is...who are told that if someone is attacking you, solely because of your faith/religion...you are not to fight back.

There's a movie coming out by Mel Gibson about the martydom of a 16 year old Baha'i in Iran...who was executed for teaching sunday classes....

Don't sleep on it!!

No_Look604
08-19-2008, 07:13 AM
I totally respect what you guys are saying and I like the fact we are talking as adults.

Baha'is don't believe in a physical heaven & hell.

Heaven to us is contentment with oneself, which can only come from nurturing your soul, which would come from your relationship with god.

We don't believe in hell.

Our prophet says everyone's souls go on to the next world...but it is something we cannot comprehend and that is why he has not bothered to tell us about it.

What I do know...so far...is that the next world is filled with different levels of comfort.

Ones who have lived a righteous life will be at a higher stage.

However...you're not stuck at a certain level...but the lower you are the longer travel you will have. There is also a peak you can reach to, but I'll stop here.

No_Look604
08-19-2008, 07:16 AM
The one thing we are encouraged not to do is worship these prophets(we call them manifestations of god)...but rather direct that love to God...because essential these prophets are a mirror/essence of god himself.

For example...Christians/Catholics get so caught up with looking at the picture of Jesus Christ....that they pray directly to him...and forget about God himself.


Baha'is believe that one day there will be universal peace...
and that will only come from a world parliament where every country has a representative there.

Regarding what you said about hardships...well we believe in fate & destiny & all that...but we also believe in free will....
So I see it as it's this free will in all of us that has made the world fcuked up.
It has also been said that through hardship & pain one is truly perfected.


OOH most importantly...these hardships are put upon us to test our faith/loyalty to him.


To be honest though...I grew up in this sh*t...but only til about 2 months ago have I been learning about it...so I should stop while I'm ahead.


ONE more thing....most religions say "If you're not Christian or Muslim etc....you are not going to heaven"....

Baha'u'llah says everyone's doul goes on to the next world....regardless of whether you were religious or not...but like I said earlier...your coul will just have the much longer of a journey to a better comfort.

RoseCity07
08-19-2008, 07:19 AM
Oh and another thing...coming from a non-muslim.

Islam & Mohammed is a very positive religion....(except for the Shia Muslims in Iran who keep persecuting Baha'is in Iran)

It's religious leaders who have misinterpreted the writings and wrongfully informed people. It's a fact. This all leads to certain, harsh requirements.

Symbolic terms are used to make writings more beautiful...but are twisted into negativity when people can't realize the literal meanings in it.

A woman's word is worth only half of a man's and women having to cover up their bodies are a result of this.

Example:
To the days of Christianity woman have worn veils to cover up their heads when they pray. The Middle East is a desert where people constantly cover up their mouths due to dusty winds. Put those two together.
It is only suggested** in the Qu'ran that woman have their veils longer to cover up their breasts.
Now, 'cause of stupidity you see woman in Afghanistan completely covered except for their eyes. It's a shame.

Here's another....

There's a line which states "they are better off dead"...which Mohahmed is trying to say that no matter how much you preach to someone, some will never worship God 'til theie dying days...so don't bother!

These crazy religious fanatics have interpreted that as a greenlight to kill whoever!

And then there are Baha'is...who are told that if someone is attacking you, solely because of your faith/religion...you are not to fight back.

There's a movie coming out by Mel Gibson about the martydom of a 16 year old Baha'i in Iran...who was executed for teaching sunday classes....

Don't sleep on it!!

Why couldn't they interpret it to mean kill themselves? The world would be better of without these sick religions. Religion is all about control and getting money. I do think the bible is a good moral guide even though I haven't read all of it, but people need to realize it's just a book. I personally take a little from all religions and my beliefs always are changing. I'll probably never believe just one thing, but if I do it won't be because of what some preacher says.

No_Look604
08-19-2008, 08:23 AM
Good for you man.


But hear me out....and realize that as a Baha'i I am encouraged to study the Bible...although it is said it does not pertain to this time of age.
It's from 1,000 of years ago and the message from God were for people of that day.

Think of it in this way. God has this master book...and has slowly revealed parts of it at different times to humanity....because people wouldn't be able to grasp it all at once.

For example...you have a 2 year old....you already know what you're going to teach him/her when they're a teenager....but you're only going to teach them their ABCs etc...cuz that's all they're going to grasp.

So that's how I look at it. The bible introduced things/laws/morals at a time when these things were unheard of.

Stuff from that are like a given in today's society....thou shall not kill etc..

Humanity changed over time...so don't you think God's message would change as well?





I do agree with you....religion has caused many divisions...but it just comes fro misunderstanding, which Baha'is will one day clear up and bring the world's major religions together.

Patriotism is a beautiful thing....but we as a people need to start glorifying humanity.

Another division that we believe will come to an end one day(not in our lifetime of course) has to do with $$$$$$. Everyone will earn the same amount...thus, eliminating POWER from riches.

No_Look604
08-19-2008, 08:31 AM
Anyways, nice chattin RoseCity....yaddadamean? I'm out. won.


I'm in the bay 4 months out of the year, but never during basketball season.

so it looks like my ass is gonna do the 7 hour drive from BC to portland to see a game.

OUTLAW is one of my favorite players...i dunno why.

I've seen very little of him ,but what I have seen blew me away.
Maybe just how aggresive he was with Kobe. not backing down.

GOBB
08-19-2008, 08:44 AM
What has Monta done to even become marketable to Bron level? Itas like if he didnt get tatts, Microsoft would want him marketing thier products but since he got them? Flush that idea down the toilet. Ummm hello, when was Monta an appealing marketable player to begin with? Exactly. Who cares what these dudes do to thier bodies. Each are getting guranteed millions, ontop of potentially having a shoe deal and some other bball related endorsement.

On one hand people criticize how much money can a player ask/want. Then turn around in the same breath and talk about money lost due to having tatts. You're about as consistent as Ben Gordons jumper. Think about it.

All i see if Monta having a permanant smile since signing that fat 6yr contract. He's set for life.

RoseCity07
08-19-2008, 08:46 AM
Anyways, nice chattin RoseCity....yaddadamean? I'm out. won.


I'm in the bay 4 months out of the year, but never during basketball season.

so it looks like my ass is gonna do the 7 hour drive from BC to portland to see a game.

OUTLAW is one of my favorite players...i dunno why.

I've seen very little of him ,but what I have seen blew me away.
Maybe just how aggresive he was with Kobe. not backing down.

Oh yeah I came back to this thread kinda late to respond, I was trying to find this part in a book to quote. Yeah Outlaw is pretty good, but there are so many talented players on the roster he gets forgotten about sometimes. I'm pretty sure he is staying in Portland if it comes down to choosing between him and Webster though. Good night ISH.

No_Look604
08-19-2008, 09:02 AM
I ain't diggin' the tat-look on him....but if it makes him happy who cares.

He just better not get one on the neck though!

He does look a whole lot grimier though...that's forshigadig.

HylianNightmare
01-30-2010, 01:00 PM
Now he looks like 99% of the NBA who cares

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MeLO MvP 15
01-30-2010, 01:25 PM
i personally dont like tattoos for me, but for other ppl its kinda cool

but montas look just like JRs lol....

btw the nuggets by far have the best tattoos.... what other team has a collective of the following:
lips on a neck
the transformers logo
the young money sign
a puerto rican flag
a law
a lion
bird wings
birds on the calf


like i would never get a tat in my life.... but those are cool for other ppl