Official Pinoy Thread

[snipes12]

Basketball is not for us to dominate , let's just admit and enjoy playing the game
i believe its not our time now but it will come a time will have someone that will shine overseas

[Stork]

Pinoy Pride!:cheers:

[gasolina]

A lot of people ask me why we still stick to basketball even though we are not built for it, answer is because we enjoy playing the game.

Imagine if we were not "sold" by the spanish, we'd probably be playing futsal instead of basketball after work.

[veilside23]

didnt know that gasolina is pinoy too ... ive asked the same question to myself many times as well... i think we are getting there ... the problem is the drive to get there i mean if am a son of a rich pba player i would definitely ask my parents to send me abroad to the states to be exact and support my needs to be in a good highschool prep program that way i get to be better in everything..

am not saying that training here sucks but lets face it training abroad is better because if you train here and you are like 6 foot 2 in 6th grade you would be playing center here however abroad you can be a shooting guard which is just right. The height of making it to the nba is already there we have guys like buenafe and silva who is 6'5 but because he was taught to play big he has a problem adjusting now. if silva is taught to play the two guard when he was still in highschool he wouldnt have problem adjusting his game ...buenafe on the other hand has the skills of a point guard but has no hops.. plus here before you make it big you would have to finish college first or atleast be 21 years old to make it to pro. other countries you just have to be that good for you to be pro look at ricky rubio he started playing professionally at the age of 14years old.

its just a matter of having the right training and less distractions ... hopefully before i die i get to see a pure pinoy make it to the nba one can only dream but we are already making noise when it comes to asian games so we are a step closer..

[gasolina]

To Veilside.

Spot on. Not only formal training but also how you play on pick up games as well.

I don't live in the Phils. right now and when I left I used to play forward on pickup games. When I played here abroad I had to develop a 3pt shot and improve my handles to play the wings.

One of the best things a non-filipino had told me is that whenever you have a filipino in your team, you're guaranteed he can play, dribble, shoot the medium range jumper, and hit cutters.

On the bad side, we are very well know to play dirty. :D

[Wicked_1]

mabuhay pinoy!

[The_Night_Elf]

On the bad side, we are very well know to play dirty. :D

That's old school Filipino ball. lol. I know it well. Everytime I play against older guys from the "old country" something happens to me. Especially when I start to dominate.

[gasolina]

That's old school Filipino ball. lol. I know it well. Everytime I play against older guys from the "old country" something happens to me. Especially when I start to dominate.

Also, the fact that one can never win a close game when visiting another court.

[veilside23]

To Veilside.

Spot on. Not only formal training but also how you play on pick up games as well.

I don't live in the Phils. right now and when I left I used to play forward on pickup games. When I played here abroad I had to develop a 3pt shot and improve my handles to play the wings.

One of the best things a non-filipino had told me is that whenever you have a filipino in your team, you're guaranteed he can play, dribble, shoot the medium range jumper, and hit cutters.

On the bad side, we are very well know to play dirty. :D


yup you are right about the things in bold.. anyway how long have you been in the states and i guess you are in memphis ?

[gasolina]

yup you are right about the things in bold.. anyway how long have you been in the states and i guess you are in memphis ?

Nahh I don't live in the states. I live somewhere in the Caribbean (don't ask where). Been living here for 3 years now.

Also, I believe black guys are the hardest to play against.

You seem to be in the same time zone, where do you live now?

[veilside23]

pinas ...am in manila just work in a callcenter bro... thats why my time zone is the same as the east side... caribbean is like pinas however its cleaner there ...

gotta agree black guys is essentially what we need .. just look at the imports that plays in the PBa they really dominate here but suck even when they were in college it just goes to show that training and pick up games there are better. whats good about pinoys is that at a young age .. youngesters know how to shoot and has good accuracy not all are good ball handlers but if trained it wont be a problem. If young pinoys will thrive in playing in a highschool prep in the states our chances will be better... i know filams play good like kelly williams j washington but they were scrubs when they were in the states in the first place if they were that good they should have stayed there ...

[gasolina]

Not really the case. If you'd look at Spain / Lithuania / Argentina, they can really match up against the Americans.

I guess a few more years and better nutrition for players would do better. The main thing that keeps us from being tall aside from genes is the lack of proper nutrition.

I guarantee if you feed your kid 100% beef and salads (keep off the rice and noodles) they can grow up to be pretty tall as well. I remember my cousins before they left for Canada when we were kids. Last time I saw them was in 2002 and they were both really tall.

Getting good competition is a good thing, but you can only be as good as your body allows you to be, which is whats holding back Philippine basketball

[veilside23]

other countries are matching up against the us because they have a strong government that supports sports here nah.. the senators would either discuss who got the biggest share in a jueteng or a scandal that involves money than to focus in whats the problem.. problem is corruption as well here a baranggay chairman saves money for a new business than to purchase a basketball court and a covered court..

anyway dont want to rant about something that might not change forever so i think basketball greats in the past if they have kids that are quite tall .. they should spend their money sending their kids to school in america than to waste it here gambling and doing crazy stuff... i know its expensive but if a pinoy youngster will be that good scholarship wont be a problem.

[la bomba]

To Veilside.

Spot on. Not only formal training but also how you play on pick up games as well.

I don't live in the Phils. right now and when I left I used to play forward on pickup games. When I played here abroad I had to develop a 3pt shot and improve my handles to play the wings.

One of the best things a non-filipino had told me is that whenever you have a filipino in your team, you're guaranteed he can play, dribble, shoot the medium range jumper, and hit cutters.

On the bad side, we are very well know to play dirty. :D
I am not filipino,but I play in Scotland and have played friendly games with a filipino team(loads of filipinos near Inverness with the shipyards) several times and I have to say they always give 110 percent effort,all have great fundamentals,as you say they all can shoot the mid range shot(which is rare nowadays)they can all handle the ball,but more importantly despite their size they rebound really well,really strong boxing out.ultimately the lack of height lets them down.

[pethuel03]

pinoy astig

[dd24]

other countries are matching up against the us because they have a strong government that supports sports here nah.. the senators would either discuss who got the biggest share in a jueteng or a scandal that involves money than to focus in whats the problem.. problem is corruption as well here a baranggay chairman saves money for a new business than to purchase a basketball court and a covered court..

anyway dont want to rant about something that might not change forever so i think basketball greats in the past if they have kids that are quite tall .. they should spend their money sending their kids to school in america than to waste it here gambling and doing crazy stuff... i know its expensive but if a pinoy youngster will be that good scholarship wont be a problem.

It has more to do with health care than anything. The US isn't the tallest country in the world by any stretch of the imagination. The Netherlands have the greatest height overall. It's been discussed many times. They build doors higher than we do here. http://www.wisegeek.com/which-country-has-the-tallest-people.htm

Being tall certainly helps in pro basketball but the USA didn't have the tallest guys this time around. I'm 6'3" and have lived in the US my entire life. I played SG, SF and PF all of my life. I played more SF and PF than anything. It all depends on what you have at your school in the US as far as size goes.

[gasolina]

Guys,

Can you give tips on how not to get owned by taller / much more athletic players in pick up games?

I'm 5'8 and play primarily small forward. I don't have that good of dribbling skills and usually rely on my jumpshot and cutting to get easy baskets. I can also lay it up left and right, PROVIDED I jump from the opposite foot.

When playing against other pinoys it alright, I can play my game, but when up against taller, more athletic blacks, it's just impossible.

Its too hard to get off a jumpshot, and when I drive the lane, I usually end up flat on my back.

I don't have a consistent 3 which makes it harder, I can only hit a three from the corner (the shortest). Sometimes, I'd just go from corner to corner, hoping to get an open 3. Cutting just doesn't work, I'd get blocked anyway.

[la bomba]

Guys,

Can you give tips on how not to get owned by taller / much more athletic players in pick up games?

I'm 5'8 and play primarily small forward. I don't have that good of dribbling skills and usually rely on my jumpshot and cutting to get easy baskets. I can also lay it up left and right, PROVIDED I jump from the opposite foot.

When playing against other pinoys it alright, I can play my game, but when up against taller, more athletic blacks, it's just impossible.

Its too hard to get off a jumpshot, and when I drive the lane, I usually end up flat on my back.

I don't have a consistent 3 which makes it harder, I can only hit a three from the corner (the shortest). Sometimes, I'd just go from corner to corner, hoping to get an open 3. Cutting just doesn't work, I'd get blocked anyway.
My best suggestion is, become a clever player!! get your basketball IQ improve,think about things all the time,some players have made careers without being good shooters,athletic,fast or anything other than good awareness and just being quick thinkers

[danumber88]

Most filipino's are not to tall for their height.. but its a fun game and they are really good in my hood, so gj for the pinoys

[dab0yech0]

You guys run a good league in the So Cal Area called Pac Rim. Props to you Filipinos.

pacrimsports.com is the name of the site

The league originated with just a filipino league and now theres many divisions with all ethnicities.

[The_Night_Elf]

Guys,

Can you give tips on how not to get owned by taller / much more athletic players in pick up games?

I'm 5'8 and play primarily small forward. I don't have that good of dribbling skills and usually rely on my jumpshot and cutting to get easy baskets. I can also lay it up left and right, PROVIDED I jump from the opposite foot.

When playing against other pinoys it alright, I can play my game, but when up against taller, more athletic blacks, it's just impossible.

Its too hard to get off a jumpshot, and when I drive the lane, I usually end up flat on my back.

I don't have a consistent 3 which makes it harder, I can only hit a three from the corner (the shortest). Sometimes, I'd just go from corner to corner, hoping to get an open 3. Cutting just doesn't work, I'd get blocked anyway.

I'm also around 5'7 - 5'8 and play the 1-2-3 so I run into the same problems/challenges you do...

You're going to have to out think them and be really smart about it and use what skills you have to your advantage. That being said, you're going to improve on certain aspects of your game. If you get better handles at least to the point where you can creat space between yourself and a defender then you may actually get your shot off. Or just learn to have a quicker trigger so you can run off screens and curls and catch and shoot a la Rip Hamilton. On Defense just be as annoying and active as possible if you gotta play a taller guy on man defense. The main thing is not to back down or take yourself out of the game mentally. Improve your skills and find ways to augment them during the game.

Try not to concentrate on what the other guy has that you don't also. Focus on what you have nad what you can do. Mentally that should help you gain the confidence to do what you want.

[markymark]

Is Kelly Williams good enough to make it to the NBA? Even as a third stringer :p

[vinsane01]

Is Kelly Williams good enough to make it to the NBA? Even as a third stringer :p

No. He must prove first that he can hit that jumpshot in a consistent basis. He also needs to improve in his inside game, i mean he is playing against very small centers and pf, with his size he can play the pf position while still being able to play the 2 and 3 as well. Another thing that needs improvement is his ball handling skills and speed. He is a 2 by the NBA standards, so unless he shows improvement in getting to the basket and the other things ive mentioned, we wont be seeing a williams named kelly in the NBA any time soon. But he got some serious hops and an athletic body, he just needs a good shooting, dribbling, rebounding coach.

[Kobe8]

We pinoy must Lookout for each other!

Do not forget the Legendaries in phill. Ase,Jowarski,James yap mamas boy.

[veilside23]

LoL didnt know that kobe8 is pinoy!!! mabuhay

[k-vil]

I just checked this forum and man! dont know marami palang pinoys dito... Sup to all of you!

[whitebear]

tip to pinoys. stop trying to dunk and master the art of 3pts.

[Kobe8]

LoL didnt know that kobe8 is pinoy!!! mabuhay

lol!:roll: :lol

[snipes12]

Is Kelly Williams good enough to make it to the NBA? Even as a third stringer :p
he should dominate the local league first to be able to prove he can play in the nba , the style of play here is to slow compare to overseas competition , but as they say , we filipinos has the biggest heart in playing the game but still its not an effective way to win rather than an excuse.

[Tank]

Wow!

I didn't know there are pinoys here.

Wassup bros?

I have an NBA League Pass Question for you. I saw in BTV website that NBA League Pass Broadband has a half season promo for $49. I really want to get it but I'm concerned my internet speed is not up to it. Baka masayang lang pera ko. I'm with Globe 1mbps by the way. Will Globe 1mbps let me watch the games from NBA League Pass Broadband seamlessly?

Also, I've been looking for an active Pinoy NBA Fantasy League. Do you have one where I can join next season?

Thanks in advance.

P.S. OT Lakers and Celtics at Boston. Sana matapos na to para makapasok pa sa work ng 1pm. Hehe..

[veilside23]

up ko lang to... natapunan na ang thread natin nasan na kayo mga pinoys :D

[IamSofaKing]

If only we were taller... :cry: Seriously, the filipino kids around here are pretty good but theyre short...

[veilside23]

u'r a pinoy?

[magic chiongson]

i love my handle..heh

[NotYetGreat]

i love my handle..heh

Never seen you here but I dig the username. :roll:

[SpongeBob]

i play in a league full of your types, and they cant hang with me and my vatos. yall are a bunch of pussys crying to the ref for every little thing. man up yo

[SpongeBob]

PISTOLERS 4 LIFE

we run pacrim

[sirkeelma]

A lot of people ask me why we still stick to basketball even though we are not built for it, answer is because we enjoy playing the game.

Imagine if we were not "sold" by the spanish, we'd probably be playing futsal instead of basketball after work.

Our future historian... :cheers:

[snipes12]

anung oras b laban ng japan at rp

[Lebron23]

anung oras b laban ng japan at rp


9:00 pm - CS9 or BTV

[snipes12]

tanx

[magic chiongson]

Never seen you here but I dig the username. :roll:

thanks. i dont post much..but i'm a regular reader though :D

[NotYetGreat]

thanks. i dont post much..but i'm a regular reader though :D

I just remembered that there's a player in Ateneo who's name is your username...

[magic chiongson]

i know a chiongson whom we nicknamed 'magic', but she's a girl :/

[FlipBaller31]

Pinoy pride baby!

I play ball in a Flip league here in Sacramento, and on what i've seen all we really need is height. :oldlol:

[BeeClips]

what ever happened to that gian chiu kid? i know he's on the national team, but he isn't at oberlin college anymore?

[gasolina]

Pinoy pride baby!

I play ball in a Flip league here in Sacramento, and on what i've seen all we really need is height. :oldlol:

Not only height, we also need to take care of our bodies. Thing I notice is that kids who grow up in the states tend to take care of their bodies. You know, hit the gym, jog, lift weights, and WATCH WHAT THEY EAT.

No crispy pata, lechong kawali, sisig, lechon de leche, liempo.

[BeeClips]

Not only height, we also need to take care of our bodies. Thing I notice is that kids who grow up in the states tend to take care of their bodies. You know, hit the gym, jog, lift weights, and WATCH WHAT THEY EAT.

No crispy pata, lechong kawali, sisig, lechon de leche, liempo.

That is a very optimistic stereotype. Most of my fellow Fil-Ams are very out-of-shape. Yeah, the fitness crowd is large in the US, but the fat lazy slob population is much, much larger. Imagine lechon, crispy pata, and liempo, but made with hormone-filled American meat (because I can tell you that we do still grow up on and eat Filipino food here). Then imagine how much pizza, hamburgers, fast food, and frozen quick meals your average American eats here.

American food is full of hormones that increase the size and quantity of our food, but decrease nutrition and quality. The imposing stature of many Americans, and in this case athletes, is due to the side-effects and accumulation of agricultural hormones we consume that lead to bigger, faster growth. In the long-run turns out a population more susceptible to disease and cancer.

Yeah I'm taller and bigger because I was born and raised here, but I think my cousins in Manila probably had better food to eat than the Costco crap I ate growing up. Maybe genetics and physiology have more to do with developing into an athlete than nutrition. Not to say nutrition is not important, but I think the first Filipino to play in the NBA will be from the Philippines and not from the States.

[gasolina]

That is a very optimistic stereotype.
Good point. I think the pinoys back home are getting more conscious about their body. Every time I come home I see more and more people hitting the gym.

[sirkeelma]

Mabuhay mga kabayan!

[BeeClips]

di ko gets

[NotYetGreat]

di ko gets

He's greeting his country men. :oldlol:

Man, haven't been here in a while, mostly cause no one even cares to go to this part of ISH. Is it true that Willie's been traded for Cyrus Baguio? :eek:

[gasolina]

He's greeting his country men. :oldlol:

Man, haven't been here in a while, mostly cause no one even cares to go to this part of ISH. Is it true that Willie's been traded for Cyrus Baguio? :eek:
Haven't followed PBA since I left home. Cyrus better ditch that awful headband.

I remember he was supposed to be UST's savior.

[BeeClips]

He's greeting his country men. :oldlol:

Man, haven't been here in a while, mostly cause no one even cares to go to this part of ISH. Is it true that Willie's been traded for Cyrus Baguio? :eek:
hello smart guy. do you think i would write "di ko gets" if i didnt know wtf he was saying? how would i even know the phrase?
i was just wondering why he wasnt going with the flow of the conversation. and why the corny-a$$ greeting?

[NotYetGreat]

hello smart guy. do you think i would write "di ko gets" if i didnt know wtf he was saying? how would i even know the phrase?
i was just wondering why he wasnt going with the flow of the conversation. and why the corny-a$$ greeting?

Woah, sorry there dude. That's one of the things you must love about the internet - the ambiguity of what you read. Nevertheless, sorry 'bout that.

And unfortunately for you gasolina, he still wears it. :oldlol: I can't imagine him without it anymore though. It seems like it's already part of his style, like his acrobatic finishes and high energy.

[BeeClips]

Woah, sorry there dude. That's one of the things you must love about the internet - the ambiguity of what you read. Nevertheless, sorry 'bout that.

And unfortunately for you gasolina, he still wears it. :oldlol: I can't imagine him without it anymore though. It seems like it's already part of his style, like his acrobatic finishes and high energy.

haha... apologies for sounding rude. chuuurrrs :cheers:

[snipes12]

ang sasagwa naman ng english grammar nio , wag na kaiong magenglish
anyways , basketball in the philippines sucks , filipino's are to midget to play basketball

[Kobe8]

ang sasagwa naman ng english grammar nio , wag na kaiong magenglish
anyways , basketball in the philippines sucks , filipino's are to midget to play basketball


LOL , You can go suck a dick , or get lost... no one is askin you to read our posts here.. get losts or get banned.

And our grammar is better than yours so , I dont know what the heck you talkin about.

[Jr Llaban]

I'm Filipino and I'm only like 5'2 (16 yo btw) and i still ball with whoever regardless of height, probably because all my best friends are black and were always taller than me so i got used to having to really on a high bball IQ.

[veilside23]

I'm Filipino and I'm only like 5'2 (16 yo btw) and i still ball with whoever regardless of height, probably because all my best friends are black and were always taller than me so i got used to having to really on a high bball IQ.


yep you are right.. our advantage would be our speed and shooting i suppose :D

[magic chiongson]

No crispy pata, lechong kawali, sisig, lechon de leche, liempo.

nooooooooooooooo

and about cyrus baguio, i have a little story to tell. one of my best friends can brag that he shut down baguio in a pick up. but he was 17 & 5'8" while baguio was 13 & 5'7" during that time :D

[Kobe8]

yep you are right.. our advantage would be our speed and shooting i suppose :D

Not if your fat , I mean cmon most of the people in the philippines are obese..

not to be rude or anything , but they look like they havnt ate anything for the past few days... I really feel sorry for them tho..

havin a celebrity as a politician is dumb, they should get rid of it. like manny pacquiao , WTF??

[veilside23]

Not if your fat , I mean cmon most of the people in the philippines are obese..

not to be rude or anything , but they look like they havnt ate anything for the past few days... I really feel sorry for them tho..

havin a celebrity as a politician is dumb, they should get rid of it. like manny pacquiao , WTF??



i wonder what food theyre eating .. i've never been fat my entire life.. :facepalm

regarding pacquiao why are you hard on him? hmmmmm... he just replaced a guy who has built a dynasty for his family and yet the provinced sucked big time. id rather have a celebrity than a traditional politician who steals money for his people.... :facepalm

[Kobe8]

i wonder what food theyre eating .. i've never been fat my entire life.. :facepalm

regarding pacquiao why are you hard on him? hmmmmm... he just replaced a guy who has built a dynasty for his family and yet the provinced sucked big time. id rather have a celebrity than a traditional politician who steals money for his people.... :facepalm

I ADMIRE him as a boxer , But I mean c'mon! Boxer and politic ish just doesnt go together!

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[DirtySanchez]

What u know about crispy pata n Kare Kare son!

[Lebron23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8UAkWP_NbI

Paul "Mr. Excitement" Alvarez - GOAT PBA Dunker. This guy once scored 71 points in the PBA.