Lucid dreaming

[pete's montreux]

Has anyone ever heard of it, or tried it? I heard someone talking about it on the radio a few years back, and thought of it tonight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream

Basically, the idea is to train yourself to control your dreams. What the guy on the radio said that for weeks on end, whenever he came to a door, he would put his hand on the handle, and say outloud, "Am I dreaming, or am I awake?" He would do this at every single door, no matter the time or situation. He trained his subconcious.

So when he got to a door in his dream, his subconsious would realize that he is in a dream-state, and he would then be "awakened" in the dream, and be able to control himself. That means doing whatever the **** you want. I mean whatever. Just think about the possibilities. It's crazy to think you'll basically be in control of the yourself, and everything around you. Have two heads and eight ***** and **** a bunch of virgins for hours.

[dab0yech0]

This thread seems to come up every few months but oh well. If you want to learn more about lucid dreaming, dreamviews.com is a great site. They also have a forums that is very active and you can learn more and discuss your experiences with others there.

I actually have lucid dreams once in awhile and its pretty fun when you control them. But since I was in about the 6th grade, sometimes I have these dreams that come true and that is when it is scary so after doing some research I decided to keep a dreams journal in hopes of one day finding out why it happens to me.

[pete's montreux]

That happened to me once. I was a high school junior at the time. In the dream I was at my locker getting something, closed the locker, turned around and saw my ex girlfriend walk around he corner with a broken leg and crutches. The next morning before the first bell rang, I was at my locker, turned around and my ex girlfriend walked around the corner with a broken leg and crutches. I immediately stopped and was thinking, am I going insane? I stood there staring at her like a creep. It was such a ****ed up moment in my life and I can remember it like it happened five minutes ago.

[LJJ]

I can do this sometimes. I can do it only when I just wake up, if I'm still sleepy I can get back into the dream but a little more conciously.

Some people can do it whenever they want.

[jbot]

those dreams rock! they are very rare for me. i think it happens when you're about to wake up most of the time. usually they don't last very long for me and it's hard for me to stay asleep as soon as i realize what's going on.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

I can do it when I'm mentally fatigued beyond all reazon, and just pass out, head on the desk in class.. or afternoon nap.

[XxNeXuSxX]

That happened to me once.
It's the one part my mentor could never explain. It's true, it happened to me in a Lucid Dream, I suddenly lost control... and what me dream became happened exactly as was plotted out word for word, number by number the VERY NEXT DAY.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Wow... I didn't even see this thread... I just so happened to have some f*cked up dreams last night... and As you can see, I made a thread about it.

Crazy....

Might have to use that technique the OP said.

[stewen12]

They only happen to me when i am on the verge of waking up so i only get like 2/3 through the dream and then i wake up

[RidonKs]

I've never had it happen to me, but there's a great clip from Waking Life having to do with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYTgTxSoITY&feature=related

Pretty cool stuff, but no, it's never happened to me. I might check out that cite mentioned above though.

[3.2.1.]

I love when I have one of these lucid dreams. It's so much fun and the possibilities are endless.

[pete's montreux]

It's the one part my mentor could never explain. It's true, it happened to me in a Lucid Dream, I suddenly lost control... and what me dream became happened exactly as was plotted out word for word, number by number the VERY NEXT DAY.

It's pretty creepy, isn't it?

[final.wrath]

I haven't had one in a long, long time. At least one that I could recall.

When I was young it would happen when I was too tired to wake up but still a little conscious. I would be very scared because I felt trapped, and try to make a noise to wake myself back up. It would usually work and I think my fear is what made it not happen as I got older.

As for the dreams that are fufilled, do you guys ever see any similarites with that and deja vu? The best way I could describe deja vu would be the feeling that one had already experienced something currently happening, perhaps in a dream.

[IBLEEDGREEN20]

It's pretty creepy, isn't it?

its pretty crazy to think about....:wtf:

.. the whole dream world idea is creepy as ****, the more i think about it

[Fallguy20]

But since I was in about the 6th grade, sometimes I have these dreams that come true and that is when it is scary so after doing some research I decided to keep a dreams journal in hopes of one day finding out why it happens to me.

I feel ya here... i've had dreams/deja vu where i know what has happend and why it has. I saved a girl from being hit by a car once because of it... Still, i dont try to do it like its "supposed" to go down. I try to break out of the cycle, because i refuse to believe that its fate and its stuck and set in stone. I make the decisions to say, "no, I will let it go down like this" and I change.

sorry if that didnt make any sense, i just kinda lost myself...

[Killer_Instinct]

Never done this. Would have been great to know a few months ago though when I was being chased by a damn clown with a butcher knife. I had no control in that dream. To think I could have just thought myself to be 10 feet with 3 heads and kicked his ass. Not to mention the 10 virgins. I've been inspired.

The DejaVu some of you speak of is pretty creepy. I have DejaVu occasionally, and nothing is more puzzling/strange when you see a string of events unfold in front of your eyes, and swear you've already seen it. Makes you wonder.

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

its pretty crazy to think about....:wtf:

.. the whole dream world idea is creepy as ****, the more i think about it

I had a dream, that one day people of of color and races, would band together and rep me. :banana:

[Fallguy20]

I had a dream, that one day people of of color and races, would band together and rep me. :banana:
"you cant always get what you want. but if you try sometimes, you just might find, ya get what you need"
:hammerhead:

[Hawker]

I've felt deja vu many times when I was younger and I sometimes have dreams the night before something I'm competing in. Whenever I lose, I think I really did lose and get really pissed then I realize it's all a dream.

I've experienced Lucid Dreaming only a couple of times. I love making myself fly.

[stewen12]

i would like this all the time. It basically just extends ur day

[ZeN]

Never done this. Would have been great to know a few months ago though when I was being chased by a damn clown with a butcher knife. I had no control in that dream. To think I could have just thought myself to be 10 feet with 3 heads and kicked his ass. Not to mention the 10 virgins. I've been inspired.

The DejaVu some of you speak of is pretty creepy. I have DejaVu occasionally, and nothing is more puzzling/strange when you see a string of events unfold in front of your eyes, and swear you've already seen it. Makes you wonder.


this happens to me sometimes...

i had a dream about a year ago,where i was a spectator viewing multiple scenes...


I had no idea what story was... until a year latter I read a book called "1984" and it was all in there..

I had never seen any of the films or read the novel at all... so that kinda freaked me out...

[loot]

I'm a huge lucid dreamer. Every 3 or 4 days I wake up in a wet bed. I recently bought plastic sheets which I can put between my matrass and its cover so I won't **** up the bed next time I've got lucid dreams.

[loot]

Never done this. Would have been great to know a few months ago though when I was being chased by a damn clown with a butcher knife. I had no control in that dream. To think I could have just thought myself to be 10 feet with 3 heads and kicked his ass. Not to mention the 10 virgins. I've been inspired.

The DejaVu some of you speak of is pretty creepy. I have DejaVu occasionally, and nothing is more puzzling/strange when you see a string of events unfold in front of your eyes, and swear you've already seen it. Makes you wonder.


DejaVus are easy to explain: Everything which you sense (see or hear, whatever) is being progressed by both parts of the brain, left and right, independently. Sometimes those two parts will finish the progressing a nanosecond apart from each other. So when part A was a little faster, part B will finish the progressing and all of a sudden recognize it (because A has progressed it already), and you'll get the feeling it already happened. These moments are so short that by the time you realize it, they're gone.

[jamal99]

those dreams rock! they are very rare for me. i think it happens when you're about to wake up most of the time. usually they don't last very long for me and it's hard for me to stay asleep as soon as i realize what's going on.
same case with me...

[StroShow4]

I've felt deja vu many times when I was younger and I sometimes have dreams the night before something I'm competing in. Whenever I lose, I think I really did lose and get really pissed then I realize it's all a dream.

I've experienced Lucid Dreaming only a couple of times. I love making myself fly.


i have experienced that as well, but never these "lucid dreams"... seems like it would be really cool actually.

[Hawker]

I'm a huge lucid dreamer. Every 3 or 4 days I wake up in a wet bed. I recently bought plastic sheets which I can put between my matrass and its cover so I won't **** up the bed next time I've got lucid dreams.

You still piss your sheets? lol

[Richie2k6]

I don't think I've ever had a lucid dream... now I'm jealous. Dejavu still happens every now and then though. I sometimes literally freeze while it's happening and try to think to myself "Have I actually seen this before?"

[Kebab Stall]

I don't think I've ever had a lucid dream, if I had, I'd probably remember it, considering what it seems to be about.

Slightly OT, but somewhat related to the deja vu thing. I was bored last night, so I started to doodle, I ended up drawing a wierd kaleidoscope type image, with diamond shapes and whatnot on it, at the time I thought it looked pretty cool and then thought of nothing of it. Today, I show up for my maths class and the teacher handed out some text books, I look on the cover and the image that was on the cover, was almost identical to the image that I had drawn the night before. It was pretty wierd and cool and at the same time, didn't know what to think of it.

[ALBballer]

I don't think I've ever had a lucid dream... now I'm jealous. Dejavu still happens every now and then though. I sometimes literally freeze while it's happening and try to think to myself "Have I actually seen this before?"

I've done that before.

Have you guys ever have a memory when your looking back and not remember if it was a dream or it actually happened in reality?

[pete's montreux]

I'm not sure you can just have a lucid dream, you have to train yourself, I believe.

[LJJ]

I'm not sure you can just have a lucid dream, you have to train yourself, I believe.

I definately took me a couple of months before I could do it.

[AtticusPigeon11]

Holy f*cking ****. I just took a half hour nap like four hours back and I was hyperventliating in terror. I woke up and I couldn't even f*ckin differentiate between reality and dream and I had that techno version of "Row, row your boat" looping. I haven't had a solid nightmare in damn near three years. But no recall of what was there.

Who here has chosen to die in their dreams before?

[KubiliusF]

if you have open or aware of having a " third eye " thats a chakra about inch above middle of your eyebrows , before falling asleep try to conctrate and feel a lil pressure in that location. I have more lucid dreams than normal one`s.

[Vragrant]

That happened to me once. I was a high school junior at the time. In the dream I was at my locker getting something, closed the locker, turned around and saw my ex girlfriend walk around he corner with a broken leg and crutches. The next morning before the first bell rang, I was at my locker, turned around and my ex girlfriend walked around the corner with a broken leg and crutches. I immediately stopped and was thinking, am I going insane? I stood there staring at her like a creep. It was such a ****ed up moment in my life and I can remember it like it happened five minutes ago.

Happened to me and people I know to. Most crazy one is my friend back in highschool had a dream these two guys we knew (who were pretty tight) got in a fistfight. My friend woke up and thought it was just a crazy dream, but when he got to school hours later those same two guys had just gotten into a fight and he had to break it up,..........crazy.

[Vragrant]

I've never had it happen to me, but there's a great clip from Waking Life having to do with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYTgTxSoITY&feature=related

Pretty cool stuff, but no, it's never happened to me. I might check out that cite mentioned above though.

Nice clip:pimp:

[Rockbttm88]

Thats probably the best scene from that movie. The rest of Waking Life is just.. tolerable I guess. Once the novelty of the rotoscoping wears off, its a pretty dull movie. If you're even a halfway "deep" person, you would have explored all of this movie's content in your own head by now.

Btw, I do the Lucid Dream thing sometimes, but not lately. It seems to be random for me. I wish I could do it whenever I wanted. Its truly an amazing thing.

[GreatGreg]

Isn't this the stuff that causes Deja Vu?

This happens to me plenty of times.. I have a story but I don't really feel like sharing right now..

[ZeN]

There is a small percentage of people who 'naturaly' have Lucid Dreams.... they are aware of what is occuring, and most times can change the dreams to their choosing.


However, for the rest.. supposedly, its possible to 'learn' how to have these types of midnight hallucinations.

[d-_-b]

If you go your local drugstore and pick up magnesium vitamin pills, they are supposed to make your dreams extremely lucid.

[pete's montreux]

If you go your local drugstore and pick up magnesium vitamin pills, they are supposed to make your dreams extremely lucid.

*scratches chin*

Really?

[d-_-b]

*scratches chin*

Really?
Yah, also remember reading about it Esquire where a ex football player recommended it to the author of the piece and the author went on to say that the difference was like black and white to HD but hey thats what I read, so who knows what your results would be.

[pete's montreux]

Yah, also remember reading about it Esquire where a ex football player recommended it to the author of the piece and the author went on to say that the difference was like black and white to HD but hey thats what I read, so who knows what your results would be.

I shall pick some up next time I go out.

[v-unit]

I had a week of straight lucid dreaming every night. It was amazing, the feeling of sleep is magnified and it's just amazing because I was able to produce a euphoria like state everytime I slept. Waking up I wouldn't be able to tell if i was dreaming or not for the first couple seconds.

[supersmashbros]

Man, I only wished I could control my dreams, but since I usually remember them after waking up, it doesn't really matter.

[pete's montreux]

Man, I only wished I could control my dreams, but since I usually remember them after waking up, it doesn't really matter.

That's actually the first step to Lucid dreaming. If you can remember your dreams [most people forget them after a few minutes], then training should be easy and simple.

[supersmashbros]

That's actually the first step to Lucid dreaming. If you can remember your dreams [most people forget them after a few minutes], then training should be easy and simple.
Then how do you train your seem into remember them? If you can remember your dreams, then I suppose you can reconstruct the details from every dream, so they can later be controlled.

[pete's montreux]

Then how do you train your seem into remember them? If you can remember your dreams, then I suppose you can reconstruct the details from every dream, so they can later be controlled.

I've read up on it a lot. For people who can't remember their dreams well, training most of the time takes years. For people who can remember their dreams well, training sometimes only takes a few months.

[quasimoto]

You can also train your ability to remember dreams. Just put a notepad and a pen next to your bed before you go to sleep and write everything up what you can remember when you wake up.

[supersmashbros]

I've read up on it a lot. For people who can't remember their dreams well, training most of the time takes years. For people who can remember their dreams well, training sometimes only takes a few months.
What's the point in remembering your dreams? I know this might sound a little redundant of a question, but is there any special reason why somebody would want to remember their dreams?

[miller-time]

what is weird is whenever i realise i am dreaming i try to force myself to wake up. but my body is still under sleep paralysis, so i am stuck there freaking out. its not fun.

[YAWN]

ive had dreams that continue on the next night, its really weird. Had a weird one the other night where i was taken to jail for tipping over a statue and flinging a rock at a window. i was bummed, a bunch of crazy **** regarding the consequences and my future started playing out in my head and then i woke up. i think i have these kind of crazy dreams whenever i go to bed wasted.

but yeah cant everyone control what they dream about? this other night i knew i was going to see this girl that was in town the next day and i pretty much played out an entire day with her in my head while sleeping.

[YAWN]

what is weird is whenever i realise i am dreaming i try to force myself to wake up. but my body is still under sleep paralysis, so i am stuck there freaking out. its not fun.
thats awesome. its happened to me a couple times, i think every time came the morning after i had passed out on a floor. i remember i kept trying to punch myself in the face but my arms wouldn't move, eventually bit my lip and got everything going again

[Butters]

what is weird is whenever i realise i am dreaming i try to force myself to wake up. but my body is still under sleep paralysis, so i am stuck there freaking out. its not fun.

Don't wake up,find the nearest chick and start tappen it.

Sex in dreams is like,better than irl because the chick always has to go:rockon:

[YAWN]

this got me curious about peoples dreams. so i asked my friend about it and she said she dreams in black and white. what the fukc kind of sh*t is this.

when i dream its just like being awake. everything the same, minus the dreaming thing.

how bout you guys?

[Butters]

this got me curious about peoples dreams. so i asked my friend about it and she said she dreams in black and white. what the fukc kind of sh*t is this.

when i dream its just like being awake. everything the same, minus the dreaming thing.

how bout you guys?

Black and white:wtf:

My dreams is just like being awake exept the girls don't say no.

[halffttime]

i used to be able to control my dreams alot when i was younger. usually, something really stupid would be happenning then i would realize it's a dream and take control of things. but sometimes, even though i know it's a dream, i wouldn't be able to control it. i don't know why... but yea, there was this one dream i had in 6th grade where i was being chased by this big jello like monster down my building staircase. i got to my floor and realized it was a dream and turned around, chased it, and started eating it.. lol, i'm not even joking :oldlol: .. i started controlling some better dreams around 12-13, :rolleyes: .

[halffttime]

oh yea, if you're dreaming and can't tell if it's a dream or not.. try reading a book.

[Jackass18]

It's been a while since I've done it. When it use to happen I'd either go into people's houses and go through their shit or I'd make myself fly, jump really high and/or hover.

[Butters]

I hear you are supose to get in the habit of holding your nose with your mouth closed and trying to breath.

In real life,you will not be able to breath,how ever in a dream you breath just as if your motuh was open and your nose uncoverd.

Tested and confirmed.

[halffttime]

I hear you are supose to get in the habit of holding your nose with your mouth closed and trying to breath.

In real life,you will not be able to breath,how ever in a dream you breath just as if your motuh was open and your nose uncoverd.

Tested and confirmed.

wouldn't you be able to fool yourself in your dreams? either way,, you can't fool yourself reading a whole page of a novel.. unless you got some jd salinger in you. :lol

[DirtBag]

any update on the magnesium vitamin pills?

[CAAIDN]

I have lucid dreams from time to time.And i only have em if i wake up in the middle of the night, take a piss and eat something.It has to be 30 minutes or more before i go back to sleep so i can control myself in my dreams later.If im bangin a chick in my regular dreams i can only **** her missionary, but in this lucid dreams i controlled myself and just flipped her over and did her doggystyle and many more positions.

So yea lucid dreams are tha shiznit.

[pete's montreux]

any update on the magnesium vitamin pills?

I'm going out today for some errands, I might pick some up.

[johndeeregreen]

I'm going out today for some errands, I might pick some up.
How will you post on ISH if you're "out"?

[pete's montreux]

How will you post on ISH if you're "out"?
Out as in literally out of the house, or out as in sleeping?

Either way, I shall report findings!

Oh wait, I drank all day, will report findings next time I go out!

[Riley Martin]

They're magical.

[ZeN]

Thats probably the best scene from that movie. The rest of Waking Life is just.. tolerable I guess. Once the novelty of the rotoscoping wears off, its a pretty dull movie. If you're even a halfway "deep" person, you would have explored all of this movie's content in your own head by now.

Btw, I do the Lucid Dream thing sometimes, but not lately. It seems to be random for me. I wish I could do it whenever I wanted. Its truly an amazing thing.

F*ck you Waking Life is brilliant.

[highwhey]

I find that i experience lucid dreams more often when I'm hungover, as in the morning after I've drunk a lot.

[ZeN]

I find that i experience lucid dreams more often when I'm hungover, as in the morning after I've drunk a lot.
Its because dispite what you imagine alcohol doesn't let you sleep appropriately. So you keep waking up and going back to sleep. Its like a malfunctioning WILD. Yiu end up lucid dreaming, but it probably ends up distorted. I bet.

[ILLsmak]

keep lucid dreamin bros.

-Smak

[ZeN]

keep lucid dreamin bros.

-Smak
Ok.

- ZeN

[enayes]

keep lucid dreamin bros.

-Smak


Looking at my hands and asking myself, "Am I dreaming" right now.

Hopefully I will "awaken" tonight.

[highwhey]

Its because dispite what you imagine alcohol doesn't let you sleep appropriately. So you keep waking up and going back to sleep. Its like a malfunctioning WILD. Yiu end up lucid dreaming, but it probably ends up distorted. I bet.
Its quite scary tbh but you're right in that i keep waking and going back to sleep so when i do wake up, i try to stay awake bc my lucid dreams are always scary asf (as in im in danger)

[ILLsmak]

Its quite scary tbh but you're right in that i keep waking and going back to sleep so when i do wake up, i try to stay awake bc my lucid dreams are always scary asf (as in im in danger)

you know I read somewhere about that...

And probably posted here, too. Well, my mind in general is too active. I can't isolate myself in a lucid dream to gain total control. I can influence a lot.

But people say that lucid dreaming (not gonna source this even tho I should, it was probably some bs site anyway, but seems legit to me) that turns into lucid nightmares is kind of like you are going through your subconscious and you stumble upon something traumatic.

There are def parts of lucid dreams where I am just like scrolling through the viewfinder or whatever and it clicks on some image that makes my mind go absolutely ape shit. Like I can hear my ears ringing in my dream. It's like a horror movie sound. Then I have to force myself to wake up and maybe be stuck in sleep paralysis.

That's why I think it's also better to be careful. Let your mind take your where it wants to, focus on feeling safe, and maintain your consciousness... so that you can logically think and process the stimuli. You may learn some shit about yourself, srs.

Be safe in lucid dreams, bro.

-Smak

[ZeN]

Be safe in lucid dreams, bro.

-Smak


Will do.

- ZeN

[Swaggin916]

you know I read somewhere about that...

And probably posted here, too. Well, my mind in general is too active. I can't isolate myself in a lucid dream to gain total control. I can influence a lot.

But people say that lucid dreaming (not gonna source this even tho I should, it was probably some bs site anyway, but seems legit to me) that turns into lucid nightmares is kind of like you are going through your subconscious and you stumble upon something traumatic.

There are def parts of lucid dreams where I am just like scrolling through the viewfinder or whatever and it clicks on some image that makes my mind go absolutely ape shit. Like I can hear my ears ringing in my dream. It's like a horror movie sound. Then I have to force myself to wake up and maybe be stuck in sleep paralysis.

That's why I think it's also better to be careful. Let your mind take your where it wants to, focus on feeling safe, and maintain your consciousness... so that you can logically think and process the stimuli. You may learn some shit about yourself, srs.

Be safe in lucid dreams, bro.

-Smak

I haven't experienced what you are talking about but isn't there any way you can just calm yourself down knowing that you may be in sleep paralysis and hallucinating terrible sounds/images because you can't move? Not being able to move and respond is no bueno in the animal kingdom... but you are safe in bed no need to panic.

I just had my first lucid dream where something kind of scared me about 2 weeks ago (which was the only time in 23 LD's). There was this big room at the bottom of this hotel I was in (Door to it was closed though) and it sounded like there were monsters inside (honestly it reminded me of some role playing game where the enemies you have to fight are way stronger than you at that point in the game). I remember hearing the sounds from inside and getting this quick feeling of dread... I kept on walking and then went outside, started flying, got others to fly with me, and all was hunky dory.

I personally want to inspect those rooms though. I don't seem to like facing my fears in reality so it's no surprise I tried to avoid it. If I start facing my fears in lucid dreams though, I have no doubt facing them in reality will be much easier (and vice versa obv.)

[highwhey]

Will do.

- ZeN
:lol