Official Pre-Release NBA 2k7 Threads - Merged

[adamcz]

(NOTE: THIS THREAD IS FOR PRE-RELEASE 2K7 TALK. START A NEW THREAD ONCE THE GAME ACTUALLY COMES OUT AND YOU PLAY IT)

We've had a few threads that evolved into 2k7 discussion, but let's have one thread just to talk about the game. I'll start things off by posting what the player ratings will be. This is the two highest rated guys from each team, so if somebody you want to know about is missing, he must have been the third highest from his team. (Courtesy of Operation Sports)


PG'S:
Iverson (94)
Arenas (93)
Billups (92)
Kidd (92)
Chris Paul (89)
Baron Davis (88)
Hinrich (84)
Starbury (84)
Jason Terry (84)
Mike James (84)
Bibby (83)
Cassell (82)
Ford (81)
Jameer Nelson (81)


SG'S:
Wade (98)
Kobe (98)
T-Mac (91)
Ray Allen (91)
Vince Carter (90)
Redd (88)
Ginobili (86)
Richardson (86)
Joe Johnson (85)
Hughes (84)
Crawford (81)
Eddie Jones (80)
Josh Childress (79)

SF'S:
Bron (98)
Pierce (94)
Marion (92)
Artest (88
Rashard Lewis (88)
Kirilenko (88)
Melo (87)
Odom (86)
Jamison (85)
Stojakovic (84)
Wallace (81)
Granger (81)
Villenueava (81)
Wally Szczerbiak(81)


PF'S:
Dirk (97)
Duncan (96)
KG (96)
Brand (94)
JO (93)
Amare (93)
Gasol (92)
Bosh (91)
Dwight Howard (88)
Rasheed Wallace (87)
Webber (84)
Okafor (83)
Randolph (80)

CENTERS:
Shaq (92)
Ya0 (89)
Camby (88)
Ben Wallace (88)
Okur (84)
Magloire (80)

[kwajo]

some of those are messed. Joe Johnson is not worse than Jason Richardson, and is far better than Jamison (just to pick one example)

[XxNeXuSxX]

Redd better than Melo?

[Bronze]

Duncan and KG dropped 3. T-mac dropped 5. Shaq dropped 4. B Wallce dropped 4. Melo gained 3, Odom gained 2. Iverson lost 2. Starbury lost 7. Nash isn't even on the list!

[geeWiz15]

I can't wait... Im going to move to 2k this year. It better be worth it. please tell me they've fixed the issue of layup and dunk being both the same button.

Cool to see Gil as a 93. I like how in NBA 2k their overall ratings actually suggest how good a player is as opposed to Live. In Live it's completely arbitrary.

[adamcz]

Redd better than Melo?
Keep in mind that these ratings are the result of a bunch of skills such as "ball handling" and "shooting." The main reason that Melo is a better player than Redd is because he's taller and stronger. Redd obviously is going to rate higher in the shooting categories, and will be at least even in ball handling and passing. I think it makes more sense to just look at it by position, and compare to other guys of similar height.

[geeWiz15]

Exactly adam according to this game Gil > Shaq.

[adamcz]

As it should be. Gilbert is faster, better ball handler, better shooter, better passer, better thief, better free throw shooter... How on earth is Shaq going to get a better rating?

[adamcz]

Here is the list of attributes that the ratings are based on:

Shooting (close, med., 3pt.)
Free throws
Layups
Dunking
Ballhandling
Passing
Low post (off., def.)
Blocking
Stealing
Off. reb.
Def. reb.
Speed
Stamina
Durability
Off. awareness
Def. awareness
Potential
Playing time

Also, there are these other attributes that only affect AI characters who you are not controlling:

Shot tendancy
Shots (close, mid, 3pt.)
Drive the lane
Attempt dunk
Back to basket
Triple threat
Shoots fadeaways
Shoots hooks
Attempts putback
Flashy passes
Commits fouls
Passing lanes
On ball steals
Contest shots

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Mike James Shouldnt be rated in front of bibby, jameer or ford (maybe ford)

[HALLandOATES]

Do you guys plan to have a Ps2 league or X box live league?

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

i didnt get 2k6 last year cause i was so into nbalive but this year im deff getting 2k7

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Do you guys plan to have a Ps2 league or X box live league?

i have a ps2 online so hopefully that

[XxNeXuSxX]

Live.

[Bronze]

So where's Nash? Don't care about the guy but would like to know how they would rate the MVP. Last year he had a 93 rating. Probably a 95 now?

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Jamal Crawford should be rated over larry hughes IMO

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

bump

[Bronze]

Oops, just read Adam's post. I see why Nash is not listed, so I guess he got a 91? What about Diaw and Kwame? Smush also.

[Hoonyo]

Yao is 90+.

[adamcz]

Camera views available in the game:

Broadcast
Drive
Press
Floor
Courtside
Baseline
Showtime
Wire
Nosebleeds
Coach's view
Corner
Action
Slam cam
Overhead
Skybox
200-level
Backboard
Crowd
Bench
Low corner
Bird's eye
Lower bowl
Endline
Handheld
Cycle chase
TV cycle 1
TV cycle 2
TV cycle 3
Side
Player lock
Cheap seats
2K
High
Iso
Swivel

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

whats francis rating?

[Bronze]

Below 81. He was a 89 the year before.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

i know and he was like a first round pick in the fantasy draft for live

[traditionone]

I don't care what the ratings are as long as I can edit them. I'm more worried about the positions the player are listed at. Charlie V as a SF? He's going to play the 4 in Milwaukee. Bobby Simmons is at the 3 spot. Jamison should be listed as a PF, too. Jason Terry should be listed as a SG since that is the position he'll play the most at next year with Devin Harris and Anthony Johnson getting the majority of minutes at the point. Shouldn't Amare Stoudamire be a center in the game since that is the position he's most likely to get the majority of his minutes at?

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

I don't care what the ratings are as long as I can edit them. I'm more worried about the positions the player are listed at. Charlie V as a SF? He's going to play the 4 in Milwaukee. Bobby Simmons is at the 3 spot. Jamison should be listed as a PF, too. Jason Terry should be listed as a SG since that is the position he'll play the most at next year with Devin Harris and Anthony Johnson getting the majority of minutes at the point. Shouldn't Amare Stoudamire be a center in the game since that is the
position he's most likely to get the majority of his minutes at?

you have a point, but you can edit the positions as well

[traditionone]

you have a point, but you can edit the positions as well

I hope. I couldn't with 2k6 and it drove me crazy. It screwed up all the lineups and the substitutions. That was my main gripe with 2k6.

[Trade]

TMac should have a higher rating like (96)

Can you post the link of the website you got this from

[wang4three]

SF'S:
Bron (98)
Pierce (94)
Marion (92)
Artest (88
Rashard Lewis (88)
Kirilenko (88)
Melo (87)
Odom (86)
Jamison (85)
Stojakovic (84)
Wallace (81)
Granger (81)
Villenueava (81)
Wally Szczerbiak(81)


WTF? RICHARD JEFFERSON?

EDIT: My bad, I read it wrong. adamcz said two best on each team. I'd like to know RJ's ranking.

[Inspector Rick]

I think I'll be switching to 2K7 this year, thats if it comes out for PC.

[Inspector Rick]

I think I'll be switching to 2K7 this year, thats if it comes out for PC.

[abuC]

You can always edit the ratings.



IGN All-star game video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOInBGKeMIo

[Bronze]

Smush had a 58 rating last year, I grabbed him out of free agency where only 4-5 guys had a lower rating. :roll:

[geeWiz15]

I think I'll be switching to 2K7 this year, thats if it comes out for PC.
I'm 99% sure it won't.

I haven't played 2k since 2k4, and that's my favorite basketball video game ever. It had 4 humongous flaws, all of which looked to have been fixed by now. fantastic. And I'm raising dough to get that 360 which better be good.

If you have had anything less than a stellar experience with your x box 360 tell me now please.

[Trade]

You can see Morrison and other rookies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh4bVdRoV5E&mode=related&search=

[Younggrease]

I'm 99% sure it won't.

I haven't played 2k since 2k4, and that's my favorite basketball video game ever. It had 4 humongous flaws, all of which looked to have been fixed by now. fantastic. And I'm raising dough to get that 360 which better be good.

If you have had anything less than a stellar experience with your x box 360 tell me now please.

360 needs more games but after playing some demos online they are coming. There is a game called Lost Planet and another 3rd person shooter coming that are AMAZING, plus Halo. Then MAdden which i just got is fire, and 2k7 is going to be great. So I would say get a 360.

BUT DO NOT MOVE THE 360 WHILE THE DISK IS SPINNING, IT WILL RUIN YOUR GAME(MY NBBA 2k6)

[kwajo]

i'm with you on that one, I love the Lost Planet demo, it's one of my favorites

[adamcz]

What's the deal with Lost Planet? Are those aliens? Why is it so snowy? The aliens made it snowy? Or are they robots? Or robot aliens?

[kwajo]

who cares, it's a game that lets you pretend to shoot things while walking around in the snow - that's like every Canadian kid's childhood right there

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Smush had a 58 rating last year, I grabbed him out of free agency where only 4-5 guys had a lower rating. :roll:

hopefully they have smush with more hops, because he couldnt jump for nothing last game

[g12affix]

so the official date is 9/25? is this when the game will be out in stores or is that later in the week? sorry... the 2k series is the only vid game i buy/play annually... not familiar with the date/day video games come out

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

why don't you play nba live? a lot of people say its too fake..

[niko]

NBA Live doesn't feel like a basketball game. It feels like a video game. There are always a few things (very few but significant) that keep it from being a good sim. 2k7 always have flaws, but they are less than live in terms of making it sim like. It's not a bad game, its just not to my taste because it doesnt feel like real basketball.

[adamcz]

By the way, I will be the Bucks in the ISH 2k7 league.

http://www.nbadraft.net/smnbateams/mil_25.gif = adamcz
http://www.nbadraft.net/smnbateams/lal_25.gif = Konex (?)
http://www.nbadraft.net/smnbateams/nyk_25.gif = ?
http://www.nbadraft.net/smnbateams/tor_25.gif = ?
http://www.nbadraft.net/smnbateams/chi_25.gif = ?
http://www.nbadraft.net/smnbateams/was_25.gif = GeeWiz ???
http://www.nbadraft.net/smnbateams/mem_25.gif = Kwajo

[LakersDynasty]

I'll be the Lakers. :D BTW do you know what the team's ratings are? Offense, Defense, Overall?

[adamcz]

Doesn't matter what the ratings are, because there will be a fantasy draft anyway. I'm not sure if there's a fair way to decide who gets which team. If GeeWiz gets his xbox he can have the Wiz, and if Kwajo wants the Grizzlies, they're his with no contest... but popular teams like the Lakers and Raptors? We'll have to discuss it.

I'll want to be very picky about who can join the league in the first place - most leagues fall apart quickly because the losing teams just stop playing. It'd be better to have 8 teams that are heavily active than 30 teams, of which 15 stopped playing long ago.

We want teams who not only play their games in a timely fashion, but try to make trades happen if they think they can improve, and maybe talk a little smack here on the message boards.

[adamcz]

Sliders that you can adjust to make each team play like it should:



Game tempo
Crash boards
Fast break
Def. pressure
Bench usage
Help defense strength
Help recovery speed
Pound ball inside
Settle for jumpers
Rely on 3pt shot
Attack the basket
Finish strong at basket
Look for post players
Prefer 1 on 1 play
Tend to overdribble
Use finesse inside
Follow missed shots
Pass w/ Flair
Prone to foul
Clog passing lanes
Reach on def.
Contest shots

[adamcz]

A favorable video review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYQJ9j9X1nU

[kwajo]

yeah I'll take the Grizz no problem, I doubt anyone will argue, as you said.
I still have to sort out my internet access to the 360, but I have til the 25th so I'm sure I can get it setup by then.

[eurobum]

I creamed

[kwajo]

I creamed
well good.

[konex]

Is there some draft system if 2 people want the same team? I'm pretty sure I called the Lakers in the first thread :hammerhead:

edit: Oh, we're doing a fantasy draft? That's cool but I think we should have a cap on player ratings. For example:

1st round - 90+ player.
2nd round - 80+ player.
3rd round - 70+ player.
4th round and below - 60+ players.

Otherwise it's gonna be a bunch of allstar teams lol

[heavensdevil]

looks sick...

[Da KO King]

Can't wait.

This plus NFL 2K5 are the reasons I'm still holding off on buying an XBox 360. The amount of editing options you have with those games if you have an Action Replay is incredible.

[Bourne]

Is 2k7 out for normal old ps2?

[adamcz]

Is there some draft system if 2 people want the same team? I'm pretty sure I called the Lakers in the first thread :hammerhead:

edit: Oh, we're doing a fantasy draft? That's cool but I think we should have a cap on player ratings. For example:

1st round - 90+ player.
2nd round - 80+ player.
3rd round - 70+ player.
4th round and below - 60+ players.

Otherwise it's gonna be a bunch of allstar teams lol
Konex, if I'm the commish, you can have the Lakers. You're the only one with experience running these leagues, and your advice is vaulable. I disagree with the caps though, because I don't mind all star teams. Who knows how many teams we'll have? If we had 16, it wouldn't be a problem at all.

[konex]

Hey, thanks! :)

And you won't mind allstar teams at first but I promise after 3 or 4 games, everyone will hate it (at least that's what happened when we tried it last year lol)

Games won't be won with defense or strategy anymore. It'll be which stars got hot or who got lucky. Also, the stats will be ridiculous!

But whatever everyone wants to do is cool. My regular league is standard so this would be a change of pace :pimp:

[adamcz]

I still have to sort out my internet access to the 360, but I have til the 25th so I'm sure I can get it setup by then.
What kind of web designer doesn't have real internet access??

[adamcz]

And you won't mind allstar teams at first but I promise after 3 or 4 games, everyone will hate it (at least that's what happened when we tried it last year lol)

Games won't be won with defense or strategy anymore. It'll be which stars got hot or who got lucky. Also, the stats will be ridiculous!

If we have 16 teams, each team would have about 2 all stars, and 2 borderline allstars, right? Sounds like the Suns to me. Maybe we just need to make sure that game lengths and fatigue are such that the bench plays an important role.

[Younggrease]

Konex, if I'm the commish, you can have the Lakers. You're the only one with experience running these leagues, and your advice is vaulable. I disagree with the caps though, because I don't mind all star teams. Who knows how many teams we'll have? If we had 16, it wouldn't be a problem at all.

16 teams is fine for a fantasy draft, i did them on 2k6 until i broke my copy. The only bad thing is that i drafted too good and dominated my whole leage. Every1 took scorers. I took the few players who could stop scorers from scoring in the paint, i had Yao Ming, Tyson Chandler, and Prysbiilla(sp) I wasnt fun because I won every game by like 40


This was pretty much my team in a 16 team draft

Mobley/ Saranus or Mike JAmes I forget
Vince/ R. McCants
Odom/ Steven Jackson
Tyson Chadler/ Brian Cook
Yao Ming/ Joel Prys

doesnt look good but I used early picks on Ming and Chandler and they were the reason I dominated.

[Da KO King]

Looking at how the player rating system seems to be shaping up I'm more looking foward to the 2K7 roster editor that will come out after the game.

I think I may finally be able to recreate the authenticity in on-court play I had with NBA Inside Drive. With the bonus of a really good franchise mode.

[konex]

16 teams is fine for a fantasy draft, i did them on 2k6 until i broke my copy

In a fantasy league with the AI, it would make blanaced roster decisions. With 15 other players, you're gonna see players out of position and all sorts of ridiculous stuff lol. I'm not against the idea of a fantasy league but I think the draft should be regulated somehow. You think you're gonna enjoy facing that starting lineup of only quality guards and forwards that soneone will inevitably have?

[Younggrease]

yeah it was fun. It didnt make me a difference.

Whats wrong with players out of position???

also it is regulated isnt it i think it makes you pick a certain number of guards forwards and big men if i remember correctly. I think its 2 each position and 2 whatever else you want.

[adamcz]

Whether or not the draft is regulated, the person who is best at both drafting and playing the game will win, and that's what we want.

Just like in regular fantasy basketball, somebody could approach it from the standpoint of drafting players that they know other people want for use in trades, or trying an unconventional strategy like Hawks-style 5 forwards. Maybe one person will draft two centers early, and another will be left with no decent center. That kind of stuff makes it fun.

[Younggrease]

Whether or not the draft is regulated, the person who is best at both drafting and playing the game will win, and that's what we want.

Just like in regular fantasy basketball, somebody could approach it from the standpoint of drafting players that they know other people want for use in trades, or trying an unconventional strategy like Hawks-style 5 forwards. Maybe one person will draft two centers early, and another will be left with no decent center. That kind of stuff makes it fun.

agreed

[konex]

Whats wrong with players out of position???


Hmm..I guess there's no use in dwelling on this issue since I now realize most of us play sports games totally differently :D


Whether or not the draft is regulated, the person who is best at both drafting and playing the game will win, and that's what we want.

True, I guess. But part of the fun of leagues (for me, at least) is having everything as close to realistic as possible.

Like I said earlier, change of pace ^_^

[hotsizzle]

when u guys gonna start? Im gonna try to setup my xbox live in time to start the league. oh yea, i'll be one of the dudes goin for the lakers.

[adamcz]

I'm probably going to let Konex take the Lakers, since he's been giving me behind the scenes help on how to run a league. You won't be the only one dissapointed by that, as my friend wants them too.

As far as when we're going to start...

The game comes out on a Monday (the 25th), so we'll probably get it started the following weekend. I work all day on Saturday, so it would have to be on Sunday.

[hotsizzle]

I'm probably going to let Konex take the Lakers, since he's been giving me behind the scenes help on how to run a league. You won't be the only one dissapointed by that, as my friend wants them too.

alright then..put me in for denver if its not taken

[adamcz]

I don't see any problem with you taking Denver. I'll run it by Kwajo at our next administrative meeting.

[Zombles]

Put me down for Phoenix if no one minds.

and put me down anyway even if they do.

[hotsizzle]

I dont know how you guys did it in the past and I know I have no say in this but wouldnt it be more compatible if we started around the time the season starts. this is my first time doing this so im just throwin ideas out there.

[adamcz]

No way, I'm itching to start playing. I need my NBA fix now.

Zombles, I'll put your request down on the agenda for our meeting.

[hotsizzle]

No way, I'm itching to start playing. I need my NBA fix now.

Zombles, I'll put your request down on the agenda for our meeting.

haha yea i guess you're right

[konex]

Hotsizzle: since it's a fantasy league, we don't have to wait on the opening-day roster update if any big signings go down before the game ships (I assume that's what you were thinking about)

[traditionone]

Is 2k7 out for normal old ps2?

Yes, it will be out for the ps2. XBox, and ps3 will get it, too.

[hotsizzle]

Hotsizzle: since it's a fantasy league, we don't have to wait on the opening-day roster update if any big signings go down before the game ships (I assume that's what you were thinking about)

yea i overlooked that for a sec. besides, the league will be good to make that dreadful month till the season starts go by faster.

[qwerty]

Dunno if this has been posted, but here are the rosters and player ratings for NBA 2k7...


http://sports.ign.com/articles/731/731817p1.html

[WarriorsFan]

Which console are you guys getting 2k7 for? Are they all compatiable with each other for online play? What do you need for online play, just a high-speed internet access? Is subscription required?

[adamcz]

Thanks for posting Qwerty, I hadn't seen that.

[adamcz]

Which console are you guys getting 2k7 for? Are they all compatiable with each other for online play? What do you need for online play, just a high-speed internet access? Is subscription required?
Consoles are not cross-compatible, and you do need a subscription. It's been discussed a few times in this thread, so actually read it.

[adamcz]

I'm looking through the Bucks ratings... and three Bucks are rated better 3pt shooters than Redd?

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6662/2k7buckip3.jpg

Doesn't seem to be based on reality.

[Younggrease]

maybe because of 3pt percentage. Simmons, bell, and blake all shot a better percentage

[adamcz]

You're right, and I'm sure that's why the developers gave them higher ratings, but it's still stupid. Redd is no questions asked, one of the best 3pt shooters in the league. Nobody alive would argue that. Bell and Simmons are a lot more selective in the shots they take, and thus have a higher percentage, but when all players are wide open, Redd is king. In the game, when all players are wide open, he isn't as good as the others.


On a related note, they gave Kobe a low pass rating. It's true that Kobe doesn't like to pass, but when he chooses to, he's as skilled at it as most any other non-point guard. They should have given him a high pass rating, but then turned his tendancy to pass way down.

[Younggrease]

You're right, and I'm sure that's why the developers gave them higher ratings, but it's still stupid. Redd is no questions asked, one of the best 3pt shooters in the league. Nobody alive would argue that. Bell and Simmons are a lot more selective in the shots they take, and thus have a higher percentage, but when all players are wide open, Redd is king. In the game, when all players are wide open, he isn't as good as the others.


On a related note, they gave Kobe a low pass rating. It's true that Kobe doesn't like to pass, but when he chooses to, he's as skilled at it as most any other non-point guard. They should have given him a high pass rating, but then turned his tendancy to pass way down.

I noticed that too. I wonder how that will effect using Kobe. It was like a 62 and Wade a 81. Thats a huge difference....

[adamcz]

I only checked four teams, but I think it's safe to say that the Bucks are the best shooting team in the game. I added up the ratings for the 5 starters.


Bucks 3 point shooting sum: 383
Bucks mid range shooting sum: 400

Sonics 3 point shooting sum: 343
Sonics mid range shooting sum: 374

Suns 3 point shooting sum: 383
Suns mid range shooting sum: 394

Mavs 3 point shooting sum: 375
Mavs mid range shooting sum: 391

It's been a long time since you could say this about the Bucks, but... I think people are actually going to use them online!

[LakersDynasty]

I only checked four teams, but I think it's safe to say that the Bucks are the best shooting team in the game. I added up the ratings for the 5 starters.


Bucks 3 point shooting sum: 383
Bucks mid range shooting sum: 400

Sonics 3 point shooting sum: 343
Sonics mid range shooting sum: 374

Suns 3 point shooting sum: 383
Suns mid range shooting sum: 394

Mavs 3 point shooting sum: 375
Mavs mid range shooting sum: 391

It's been a long time since you could say this about the Bucks, but... I think people are actually going to use them online!

Back in the day when they had Allen, Redd, Cassell, Tim Thomas they were definitely the best shooting team.
The rating system is kind of retarded here.

[PureElement]

http://sports.ign.com/articles/731/731817p2.html

*** you 2k for hating on Yao (Same Rating as Camby) and T-Mac (Worse rating then Billups, worse 3 point shot then Alston! WTF).

Other then that its decent, although having every star in the 90s is pretty gay. And stop hugging Lebron's nuts. 98! are you kidding me?

Edit: Nevermind, Kobe, Wade has 98 too. Still sucks, T-Mac got shafted.

[West-Side]

Damn, that tat on Kobe looks EXACTLY like it does in real life...pretty amazing graphics.

[West-Side]

McGrady is 98 when healthy...96 minimum.
I'm sure Amare isn't rated as high as he should because of his injury.

[ALBballer]

Holy shyt they revamped the player ratings a lot. I was expecting to see Marbury at 90, Francis 88, Crawford 86 and what not, but their much lower. The only thing I don't like is defensive awareness is a bit high, but other then that :cheers: , too bad my x-box is broken, doh.

[PureElement]

Damn, that tat on Kobe looks EXACTLY like it does in real life...pretty amazing graphics.

I think Kobe in that picture could look better, but its T-mac in that picture that looks fuked up. Wheres the lazy eye lol.

[West-Side]

Kobe looks weird (face-wise), but that tattoe looks amazing.

[PureElement]

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/731/731817/nba-2k7-rosters-and-ratings-20060908020733256-000.jpg

The body looks amazing, esepcailly the jersey. But the faces, arg. Here Drew Gooden looks more chinese then yao.

[Se]

Damn, that tat on Kobe looks EXACTLY like it does in real life...pretty amazing graphics.
http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/731/731817/nba-2k7-rosters-and-ratings-20060908020729178.jpg
:rollingeyes:

Looks more like Lego-NBA to me. Andre Miller? LOL

[West-Side]

They made Andre Miller more like Sam Cassell...the faces are horrible, the trailers look tight though.

[Se]

They all look like robots. Therefore: Live>2K7

[Trade]

http://sports.ign.com/articles/731/731817p2.html

*** you 2k for hating on Yao (Same Rating as Camby) and T-Mac (Worse rating then Billups, worse 3 point shot then Alston! WTF).

Other then that its decent, although having every star in the 90s is pretty gay. And stop hugging Lebron's nuts. 98! are you kidding me?

Edit: Nevermind, Kobe, Wade has 98 too. Still sucks, T-Mac got shafted.
you are right TMac should at least be at 96

[BradMiller52]

The ratings suck. Amare's a 93 even though he just had MICRO FRACTURE surgery. TMac's rated too low. The passing rating on the Kings is real messed up. Jeez.

[Trade]

you are right TMac should at least be at 96
Vince Carter at 90 :wtf: he should be at least 93

[LakersDynasty]

T-Mac was 96 last time, must be the injury.
But then again Amare's rating only went down by 1, and he had a more serious injury. Ratings are rigged. :confusedshrug:

[bigkingsfan]

We still have Bonzi. He's playing for free, yay!

[LakersDynasty]

What I hate is that in last 2k6 not all the rookies were represented and you had to create your own version of them. Example: Turiaf. Though he didn't play the first half of the season, who knows.

[Trade]

Where can i find the ratings and rosters for Live 07

[PureElement]

What I hate is that in last 2k6 not all the rookies were represented and you had to create your own version of them. Example: Turiaf. Though he didn't play the first half of the season, who knows.

Its contract problems. They can't create players not under contract with an NBA team.

[LakersDynasty]

Its contract problems. They can't create players not under contract with an NBA team.
I see.

[hotsizzle]

this is bs. Tmac is rated 76 at 3pt shots and lebron at 79.

Tmac should be at least 96 overall...98 if healthy.

hahaha @ iggy being rated better tham mcgrady at threes.

[LakersDynasty]

Smush Parker went from a 58 rating to a 74.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

How the hell is Wade 98%? At getting free shoddy free throws, sure, but actual in game? Not a chance.

[adamcz]

In general Visual Concepts did a good job with player ratings, but the way they decided 3 point ability (based only on percentage) is retarded. It actually dampens my enthusiasm for the game quite a bit. Rip Hamilton is the best 3 point shooter in the entire game, and neither Ray Allen, Michael Redd, or Peja Stojakovic are in the top 10. I guess you can never get everything right.

[Skywalker]

Bosh is a 91 lol. While Yao is an 89?

Once again Eddie Griffin gets very overrated at 79! while Justin Reed at 65 is only two poitns better than Ha Seung Jin, wtf?

[geeWiz15]

I hate when sportsgames try to make the graphics too good and it ends up looking like crap. Shooting forms and faces especially. It doesn't have to be perfect! just make it not ugly please.

[geeWiz15]

...I'm guessing Gilbert's 3pt ability is **** as well.

Last year Live gave him a 74. 74! This guy hit 200 threes at 37% while having basically nobody to take pressure off him. And when Billups has an 81, Korver has a 88, Cuttino Mobley has an 84, Damon Stoudamire has a 83, Nick the Quick has a 82, and Kobe, Tmac and Vince all have 80s, you should be giving Gil more than a 74.

[Younggrease]

Gilbert is an 82

But giving Rip a 91 3pt rating is crazy, hope they fix it with the roster update

[deion2123]

[QUOTE=Se

[XxNeXuSxX]

Rip a 91 3pointers? :roll:

[B-Low]

Steve Francis is rated lower overall than Wally Szerbiak and Danny Granger. Wow

[abuC]

this is bs. Tmac is rated 76 at 3pt shots and lebron at 79.

Tmac should be at least 96 overall...98 if healthy.
.

Tmac was shooting 31% (73-234) from 3 last year, LeBron shot 33% (127-379) from 3. Going by last year, LeBron's 3 point rating should be higher.

What did Tmac do LAST YEAR to deserve being rated as a minimum of 96? He had a miserable shooting year and only played 47 games, I dont think he should be 96, he's right about where he should be considering what type of season he had last year.

[traditionone]

Ratings can be edited. You can fix those if you don't like it. I hope that a player's position can be changed.

[abuC]

[QUOTE=Se

[abuC]

Ratings can be edited. You can fix those if you don't like it. I hope that a player's position can be changed.


Yeah, they have primary and secondary positions this year.

[PureElement]

Tmac was shooting 31% (73-234) from 3 last year, LeBron shot 33% (127-379) from 3. Going by last year, LeBron's 3 point rating should be higher.

What did Tmac do LAST YEAR to deserve being rated as a minimum of 96? He had a miserable shooting year and only played 47 games, I dont think he should be 96, he's right about where he should be considering what type of season he had last year.

What makes amare deserve 93 for not playing a whole year?

And I don't care about stats, anyone with decent basketball knowledge would know that T-Mac is one of the best 3 point shooters in the game. Stats tell you nothing.

[abuC]

What makes amare deserve 93 for not playing a whole year?

And I don't care about stats, anyone with decent basketball knowledge would know that T-Mac is one of the best 3 point shooters in the game. Stats tell you nothing.


It's not listed, but there's also a potential rating for players. Amare's potential is probably higher, considering he's younger.


And Tmac is not one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA, he's a volume shooter that can get really hot or go really cold. Im sure you'd care about stats if he wasnt shooting 31% from 3, they never do seem to matter unless they are good. I have more of a problem with Michael Redd and Ray Allen's 3 point rating not being in the 90s, than Tmac's not being in the 80s.

[geeWiz15]

abuC is that first quote about Live or 2k?

[geeWiz15]

thank God positions can be changed. I remember having to switch to manual substitutions in 2k4 becaus I had Duncan and Pau on my team as my bigs and they kept trying to stick Pau on the bench and start Magloire at Center. stupid and completely unrealistic.

[abuC]

abuC is that first quote about Live or 2k?


It's about Live.


http: / /www. game spot.com/xbox360/sports/nbalive07/news.html?mode=all

Some gameplay videos of Live, the graphics are clean and look good, but the animations are just so strange looking.


Edit: Fix the spaces, never knew game spot was a censored word.

[BankShot]

im suprised no one is *****ing about Darko's 72... although it is deserved

[PureElement]

It's not listed, but there's also a potential rating for players. Amare's potential is probably higher, considering he's younger.


Never knew how potential works, but I always thought it was suppose to affect how a player's rating increase year after year. Either way, I don't know how anyone can justify Amare's rating after he missed a whole year. This isn't saying Amare won't have a great year, but it seems like for players like Amare the developers just picked a random number out of a hat.


And Tmac is not one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA, he's a volume shooter that can get really hot or go really cold.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Im sure you'd care about stats if he wasnt shooting 31% from 3, they never do seem to matter unless they are good.

I don't care what stats you give me, Alston, Iggy, Marion, Walker are not better 3 point shooters then T-Mac, in any year, under any circumstance. Hell even Webber has a three point rating of 72... Developers rating players based on stats is well... lazy. O well, at least you can edit it.



I have more of a problem with Michael Redd and Ray Allen's 3 point rating not being in the 90s, than Tmac's not being in the 80s.

They are not in the 90s? Thats retarded.

[PureElement]

It's about Live.


http: / /www. game spot.com/xbox360/sports/nbalive07/news.html?mode=all

Some gameplay videos of Live, the graphics are clean and look good, but the animations are just so strange looking.


Edit: Fix the spaces, never knew game spot was a censored word.

I know. Who made Game spot a censored word. Its stupid.

[kentatm]

the player ratings in Live and 2K (any sports game really) have always been off on several players. you can adjust them so who cares? the last two years I have had to up Devin Harris's speed b/c they make him slow as hell. I think it was in Live 05 that they had Gary Payton as faster than Marcus Banks.

[kentatm]

I don't care what stats you give me, Alston, Iggy, Marion, Walker are not better 3 point shooters then T-Mac, in any year, under any circumstance. Hell even Webber has a three point rating of 72... Developers rating players based on stats is well... lazy. O well, at least you can edit it.


that is true, i keep telling Mavs fans that Josh Howard is NOT a good 3 point shooter regardless of his stats. he shot very few and almost always shot them wide open. and i mean like WIDE OPEN nobody even looking at him. you run at him at all and he will miss.

[ClutchCityReturns]

Kirk Snyder did this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c95e1wNIuLk&mode=related&search=

but they gave Luther Head a higher dunk rating...

[PureElement]

the player ratings in Live and 2K (any sports game really) have always been off on several players. you can adjust them so who cares? the last two years I have had to up Devin Harris's speed b/c they make him slow as hell. I think it was in Live 05 that they had Gary Payton as faster than Marcus Banks.

I don't really even bother with Live ratings. Other then an interest to see them, they don't really matter. Dirk can have a 70 rating, and he would still own everyone

One thing that makes Live rating good is that they don't give 90s to every star. They aren't generous with their ratings which I like.

[jbot]

why is everyone making a big deal about the player's ratings when u can just adjust them yourself? that's the 1st thing i do after i buy the newest 2k basketball game every year(well, after i play a few games to check out the newest features).

[PureElement]

why is everyone making a big deal about the player's ratings when u can just adjust them yourself? that's the 1st thing i do after i buy the newest 2k basketball game every year(well, after i play a few games to check out the newest features).

Its not a big deal but its interesting.

[Younggrease]

because when you play with friends you usually use default or the roster update. Or maybe thats just me

[Trade]

Tmac was shooting 31% (73-234) from 3 last year, LeBron shot 33% (127-379) from 3. Going by last year, LeBron's 3 point rating should be higher.

What did Tmac do LAST YEAR to deserve being rated as a minimum of 96? He had a miserable shooting year and only played 47 games, I dont think he should be 96, he's right about where he should be considering what type of season he had last year.
Amare was injured all season he only went down tow ratings
Emeka was also injured basically the whole season his rating only went down one spot

**** it ill just edit tmacs to be 96

[dblockallstars]

do they do it like everyone has at least a 50 in 3pt shooting cuz Curry has 50......Live>2k

[hotsizzle]

they take last season's stats and make the ratings in relation. thats not right, stats dont tell the whole story.

[abuC]

Never knew how potential works, but I always thought it was suppose to affect how a player's rating increase year after year. Either way, I don't know how anyone can justify Amare's rating after he missed a whole year. This isn't saying Amare won't have a great year, but it seems like for players like Amare the developers just picked a random number out of a hat.



:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:



I don't care what stats you give me, Alston, Iggy, Marion, Walker are not better 3 point shooters then T-Mac, in any year, under any circumstance. Hell even Webber has a three point rating of 72... Developers rating players based on stats is well... lazy. O well, at least you can edit it.



They are not in the 90s? Thats retarded.


There's a potential rating:

http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/241/reviews/932864_20060830_screen014.jpg

If they feel Amare has a high potential, it could lift his overall rating higher than someone who has better numbers across the board but lower potential.




As for the rest, Tmac is not one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA. They do base their ratings on stats, which is why LeBron had a higher 3 point rating than Tmac. And also, you have to take into account the tendency slider, when you play the computer if a guy has a 90+ 3 point rating but his 3 point slider is set to 0 he wont even attempt the shot. Tmac probably has a very high 3 point tendency slider, so to get him to shoot the percentages he does in real life they set it at 76. If people played the game, and Tmac is shooting 44% from 3 on the season in their franchise, Im sure people would complain about it.

[adamcz]

Ratings can be edited. You can fix those if you don't like it. I hope that a player's position can be changed.
You're right, but that doesn't apply for online. When you play people online, or do a fantasy league like we're talking about, I'm pretty sure you have to use the default ratings.

[abuC]

You're right, but that doesn't apply for online. When you play people online, or do a fantasy league like we're talking about, I'm pretty sure you have to use the default ratings.


I think the administrator of the league can set up global sliders though, so the 3 point rating can be lowered. And you can pretty much set the global sliders to what you want.

[PureElement]

And also, you have to take into account the tendency slider, when you play the computer if a guy has a 90+ 3 point rating but his 3 point slider is set to 0 he wont even attempt the shot. Tmac probably has a very high 3 point tendency slider, so to get him to shoot the percentages he does in real life they set it at 76. If people played the game, and Tmac is shooting 44% from 3 on the season in their franchise, Im sure people would complain about it.

The thing is T-Mac is a better shooter then Lebron. His shot selection isn't the greatest, but if you don't put 2 guys on him all the time he will rain threes over your face. This rating system might work with AI simulation. But if I was controlling T-Mac (Thus controlling his shot selection), I would want him to shot better then Alston or Iggy from the three point line.

[Da KO King]

Overall ratings in 2K games are not as important as the ratings for each attribute.

[clipps]

Kobe looks like Eddie Jones in that picture.

[albertpujols]

http://sports.ign.com/articles/731/731817p2.html

*** you 2k for hating on Yao (Same Rating as Camby) and T-Mac (Worse rating then Billups, worse 3 point shot then Alston! WTF).

Other then that its decent, although having every star in the 90s is pretty gay. And stop hugging Lebron's nuts. 98! are you kidding me?

Edit: Nevermind, Kobe, Wade has 98 too. Still sucks, T-Mac got shafted.

Your right though I'd choose Yao over Camby anyday. Yao should be the top rated center in my opinion.

T-Mac is a better shooter than LeBron. His 3 should be a tad higher.

Mutumbo's block / rebound should be higher. Considering he only plays for little minutes, he puts on a defensive show.

Other than that no complaints here. Go Raps!

[32MJ32]

You guys know you can edit these, right?

Relax

[bigkingsfan]

You guys know you can edit these, right?

Relax

If you play it online then it has to be default, but people just need to chill because it's just a game. :rolleyes:

[32MJ32]

I see, I see - I'm not an online gamer, so I didn't realize.

That said, exactly how much does it matter who you're using? I always seem to torch my boys with guys like Chris Kaman and Voshon Lenard. And get destroyed by Maquis Daniels or Kevin Martin.

As long as you're good at the game, ratings aren't all that important.

[BigTicket]

Apparently Raja Bell, Leandro Barbosa and Tim Thomas are better 3-point shooters than Ray Allen :wtf:

Oh and Brian Cook is just as good as Ray Allen :confused:

Hmm and it seems the best 3-point shooter in the league is Rip Hamilton......

Whoever was in charge of that stat needs to check into rehab ASAP.

[thenextgreatbigman]

Steve Francis is rated lower overall than Wally Szerbiak and Danny Granger. Wow
mike james is an 84(higher than both francis and marbury) and the twolves look like monsters with a lineup on 3 80s and a 96.
radmanovic got the same rating as frye?

thats why i got live last year, the ratings sucked.
i put 2k in the corner and ended up skating with nba live

[adamcz]

What length quarters would people want to use? The way I see it, the longer they are, the more the bench comes into play, which is a good thing. If we go with 12 minute quarters, you'll need to rest your starters, and your ability to draft comes more into play. On the other hand, the shorter the quarters are, the more likely it is that people will play (and finish) their games.

What is the happy medium? Konex, what quarter lengths have you used in your previous leagues?

If we go with 8 minute quarters, that's a 32 minute game... will probably take 35 minutes on average to play I think. Is that long enough for the starters to get tired, and force you to sub in your bench?

[Inspector Rick]

I'm not supporting Live anymore, but I dont wanna drop 5 bills on an XBOX 360 either. Blarg!

[BigTicket]

Ratings based purely on last years stats with no reality check at all kill this game for me. Everyone and their grandmother seem to have 99 on close shots, meanwhile one of the greatest alltime 3-point shooters in Ray Allen is rated well below 90 and equal to guys like Brian Cook :wtf:

And since when is Wade a better passer than Lebron ?

[konex]

What is the happy medium? Konex, what quarter lengths have you used in your previous leagues?

First of all, understand that a 6-minute qtrs. game took about 40 mins last year...

It'll probably be faster this year with real-time substitutions (no need to pause to sub) but I think we need to stick with the shortest thing that gives us NBA-type scores (80-90 ppg for one team) a majority of the time..

I would guess 6 or 7 mins but we'll have to play to find out. Also, I recommened Legend difficulty..

PS: The fatigue issue is based off the qtr lengths so if it's shorter quarters, players fatigue fater...

[Markarian]

Iguodala is at only 77 when Korver is 73 and Anthony Parker is 76?
Turkoglu is at 78, Posey is at 79. Childress is the second best player is Atlanta.
Melo is only 87(WTF?)
This rating do suck. A lot.
But you know it's a game. You can change them as you feel is right

[Younggrease]

mike james is an 84(higher than both francis and marbury) and the twolves look like monsters with a lineup on 3 80s and a 96.
radmanovic got the same rating as frye?

thats why i got live last year, the ratings sucked.
i put 2k in the corner and ended up skating with nba live

They update the rosters like 6 times per year for offline and all the time for online.

[adamcz]

As long as we'll be forced to use the bench players, I'm ok with 6-7 minute quarters. I didn't realize games took that long.

[abuC]

NBA 2k7 demo will be released tomorrow.

[adamcz]

Tonight at midnight actually ;)

I'm going to make a more organized signup thread for the league in a minute. It's time to get this thing prepared!

[abuC]

Tonight at midnight actually ;)



Well, midnight for the westcoast, I'll be awake for it though.

[adamcz]

That's just a few hours before I wake up in the morning, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow.

[kwajo]

sweet, i'll have to hook my 360 up to my powermac for internet sharing tonight to download it tomorrow morning (thank god I'm getting the internet sorted out next week, moving it just for this is going to be a pain)

[Zombles]

sweet.

[adamcz]

A couple of you guys requested certain teams in the league, but didn't provide your xbox account name. Please make your request again in the official signup thread with your account name. Thanks!

[abuC]

http://www.2ksports.com/games/nba2k7/videos/2404

Signature style video.

[konex]

2am PST :D

[SCREWstonRockets]

yup, i'm downloading the demo right now. i can't wait to play i because i'm sure it'll hold me over till the real game comes out. the videos have been looking amazing.

[04mzwach]

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/792/792368/imgs_1.html

it's only so long fake thugs can pretend...what a ****ty looking game...

[SCREWstonRockets]

2k > NBA Live. That's all that matters. And you're blind and retarded if you think the graphics are bad. But screw the graphics, its all about the gameplay and it's not going to disappoint.

[32MJ32]

Exactly what is that in-depth review based on, 4mzwach?

[04mzwach]

actually i think they both will probably be great but i think 2k7 graphics look like ****

edit: the pictures

[konex]

Getting it now :pimp:

[abuC]

Downloading, up to about 15%

[adamcz]

I'm downloading, but I doubt I'll get a game in before work. I can always skip shaving and ironing my clothes.

[jbot]

when it gets down to it, what really matters...how a game LOOKS or how a game PLAYS? i'd take the butt ugly game that plays like a hot porn chick.

[veeceeonefive]

those shots are from an early beta - anti-aliasing (and other post-processing filters) are not added until the game is in a much more polished state. this is why, for instance, the edges of the polygons appear to be so jagged.

the screens above are no indicator as to what the graphics will look like in the finished product.

[kwajo]

plus in these games the flow and movement is almost more important than any static image, and you can't tell that at all based from just those early screenshots

[L Supreme]

theres a demo for the 360 out right now for 2k7. check that out for a better idea than some old pics

[saKf]

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/727/727219/nba-2k7-20060822043127551.jpg
Shaq works on his game with former Harlem Globetrotter Bill Cosby. Below, through the miracle of plastic surgery, Gilbert Arenas had his face changed to resemble the handsome moniker of Elton Brand:

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/727/727219/nba-2k7-20060822043452301.jpg

[SCREWstonRockets]

damn, this game is amazing. The demo is only Heat vs Mavs and just about all the starters have signature shots and even dribbles. The gameplay is better, guys will actually shoot if u leave him wide open. Also, you can't just crossover and head to the goal for a dunk at ease anymore, which eliminates the ridiculous 45 dunks in the 1st half. NBA Live doesn't stand a chance, only 11 days left till the greatest game comes out.

[deion2123]

everything is great except the player models look hideous and the jaggies

[adamcz]

It's weird how some parts of the graphics are jaw dropping, and some parts look like they're from ps2. Oh well.

How do I toss an alley oop? I had a 2v1 break at one point, but didn't know how to do it.

How do I do dribble moves? Jab step, spin move, etc. I heard there was something called isomotion, but don't know how to do it.

How does the shot stick work? Which direction equals which shot?

I like the game a lot so far, even though there's a lot I don't know how to do.

[geeWiz15]

ok Im sorry Gil but the day you dunk on Rasheed Wallace is the day Shogon gets laid.

[adamcz]

Shaq looks perfect in the game. I don't know what that picture is that SaKF posted, but that's not what Shaq looks like.

Some of the characters do look a little off (Devin Harris does), but Shaq ain't one of them.

[The Mamba]

Both games for their next gen's looks like utter crap. And people actually are drooling over them. 2k7, everyone looks like glossy ghosts. Nobody looks like themselves in it, wrong skin tones (see Gilbert Arenas), wristbands don't even resemble how they do in real life. And in Live '07 for 360 and PS3 everyone looks like chipmunks.

[jbot]

Shaq works on his game with former Harlem Globetrotter Bill Cosby. Below, through the miracle of plastic surgery, Gilbert Arenas had his face changed to resemble the handsome moniker of Elton Brand:


:roll: bill cosby..."i'll play ya for a pudding pop, shaq". and yeah, gilbert does look like brand in that shot.

[abuC]

How do I do dribble moves? Jab step, spin move, etc. I heard there was something called isomotion, but don't know how to do it.

How does the shot stick work? Which direction equals which shot?

I like the game a lot so far, even though there's a lot I don't know how to do.

Taken from Operationsports, this is for NBA 2k6, but most of it is the same:



Drive move = Hold RT and push Left stick at a slight angle off-line toward the basket.

Hard Crossover dribble = Hold RT and quickly throw the Left stick in the opposite direction of your dribble hand.

Hesitation Cross= Hold RT+LT and throw the Left stick in the opposite direction of your dribble hand.

In & Out = Initiate the hesitation crossover, then throw the Left stick back toward the ball hand for the In & Out.

Behind the back = Hold RT and quickly spin the Left stick in a circular motion from the dribble hand around the player’s back.

Spin (ability specific) = Hold RT+LT and quickly spin the Left stick in a circular motion from the dribble hand around the player’s back.

Step Back = Hold RT and pull the Left stick away from the player’s movement direction.

Half Spin = Hold RT+LT and pull the Left stick away from the player’s movement direction (just like the Step Back move.)

Stutter = Quickly Tap and Release RT.

Stutter Drive = Quickly Tap & Release RT, then chain into the Drive move.

Stutter Cross = Quickly Tap & Release RT, then hold the Left stick in the opposite direction of the dribble hand.

Hop Step = Quickly Tap & Release LT while dribbling (left thumbstick must be neutral or pointing toward the basket.)

Hop Step Spin= Quickly Tap & Release LT while holding down RT.

Hop Back = Quickly Tap & Release LT while dribbling (left thumbstick must be held away from the basket.)


Triple Threat:

Jab Step = Hold RT+LT and flick Left stick in opposite direction of pivot foot.
Step Over= Hold RT+LT and flick Left in the player's facing direction.
Jab Step w/ Head Fake = Hold RT+LT and flick Left stick toward pivot foot.
Protect Ball= Hold RT+LT and flick Left stick in the opposite direction the player's facing.





I think the game is fantastic, both teams play different, and I love seeing the computer use Jet and Dirk in pick and rolls, or pick and pops. Seeing Dirk in the high post, calling for the ball while Haslem fronts him is great, then the computer rotating Walker over to Dirk when he gets it....

[adamcz]

Thanks abuC, that answers most of my questions. Do you also happen to know what the different directions on the shot stick represent?

[SCREWstonRockets]

Thanks abuC, that answers most of my questions. Do you also happen to know what the different directions on the shot stick represent?

I'm guessing you never played 2k6? Shooting with the shot stick is easy, just move it in your desired direction and release at the top of the jumper. You can use up,down,left or right to shoot, it doesn't matter. You can still shoot with X if you are having problems. But for dunking and layups, its different. Directions for the lay-ups counter what you want to do in the game. Up means a straight lay-up towards the goal, while left and right let you choose with side to lay-up incase a defender is in front of you.

UP + RT = Basic Dunk
LEFT + RT = Fancy Dunk
RIGHT + RT = Power Dunk
DOWN + RT = Reverse Dunk
360 on DPAD + RT = 360 dunk

Since it seems you're new to the controls, it'll take you a while to get a hang of them and take advantage of all the things you can do. I suggest you either pick up 2k6 to learn the control scheme or just play the demo till your 360 blows up.

[adamcz]

Thanks screwston.

The substitute without pausing thing is fricking awesome. I'm starting to get the hang of it.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Well, how is it?!

[kwajo]

I'm still waiting for it to finish downloading, server seems real slow today

[XxNeXuSxX]

XBL=Xbox Live?

[adamcz]

Well, how is it?!
Easily the best basketball game I've ever played. I love it. I've owned a lot of basketball games over the years, but have never been so enthusiastic about one.

[Zombles]

woo, a nice gift to come home from after a long day at school.

Played about a half dozen quarters so far, pretty impressed. Like others have said the graphics are a mix between jaw-dropping and South Park animation. The announcers are still lackluster, but whatever, god bless the 360's hardrive + music player.

The gameplay is pretty damn good though, it seems to be the most realistic basketball game ever, not just in how the players look but in how they play. Every single basketball game ever so far has done Shaq entirely the wrong way, always get him in the post and he does some generic hook shot or turnaround. First posession with him in this one I back down Erick Dampier, do a quick spin move, and jam it with two hands. He hasn't attempted a turnaround or a hook shot at any point throughout my playing time. Wade even threw himself backwards into Nowitzki on a drive at one point and got 2 foul shots out of it. If that ain't simulation I don't know what is.

The gameplay seems kinda deep though, like Adamcz I don't know how to do a hell of a lot of stuff and the computer's beaten me more often than not so far.

[kwajo]

85%!! GRRR it's been going for hours, this is the slowest XBL download ever

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Easily the best basketball game I've ever played. I love it. I've owned a lot of basketball games over the years, but have never been so enthusiastic about one.

Are you a 2Ker or a Liver? I wanna know cause if you're a liver, yeah, of course it's the best bball game you've ever played, but you're a 2Ker theres a chance it could be worse than last years because every years is better than the last and the trend has to end sometime.

[adamcz]

I bought Live 98, 2k, 2k1, 2k2, 2k3, Live 04, and Live 05. Didn't play either of the '06 games. This game is a lot more realistic than any of the ones I just mentioned. It seems to encourage you to play the right way more than other games. On the fly play calling and substituting is sweet, because nobody should ever need to pause it now. You can even change your coaching style (game tempo, crashing boards, etc) without pausing.

[geeWiz15]

wow, that's awesome. this could be my holy grail.

when I played Live I had to force myself to play the right way. I would never do alley oop, never do freestyle superstar meaning all players play the exact same, play zone so that I wouldn't get 30 steals a game, etc. this is lookin to be a great thing. I want to get my 360 as soon as possible so that I can get started.

[abuC]

The demo is excellent, I've lost count of how many games I played. The ball movement on the perimeter is great, and how each team will set up is really nice. I cant wait to get this game, with the standard sliders it's already the most realistic b-ball game I played, cant imagine what some tweaks will do to it.

[West-Side]

Damn, I'm saving my money on this game...thanx guys, I can't WAIT!!!
It'll help me to kill time until the NBA season starts, seems like my Panthers are done for the year with all these key injuries already. Hate the NFL!!

[adamcz]

West-Side do you have a 360? We're running a league.

[kwajo]

graphic haven't been impressing me so far, too many jaggies, but it is by far the most realistic NBA game I've played. Josh Howard for example seems 100% like his real self, while many other players also closely match real-life in playing style, tendencies, mannerisms, etc. very cool

[04mzwach]

This game is kind of boring, videogames are suppose to be fun.

[abuC]

graphic haven't been impressing me so far, too many jaggies, but it is by far the most realistic NBA game I've played. Josh Howard for example seems 100% like his real self, while many other players also closely match real-life in playing style, tendencies, mannerisms, etc. very cool

It looks better on an HDTV, I have no jaggies at all, I've heard nothing but complaints about jaggies for SDTV users.

[LakersDynasty]

LMAO @ that fatass Shaq.
Gilbert looks exactly like Derek Anderson, no?

[abuC]

The game looks fine with the gameplay cameras, to me atleast it doesnt look as good in replays.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3580/dsc07827zm4.jpg

But the game looks better than those pics which are scaled wrong, I have the demo. I didnt take that pic though, found it on TXB.com.

[bigkingsfan]

The game will look totally different from a regular TV screen, bonus good looks for HDTV

[JSub]

Both games for their next gen's looks like utter crap. And people actually are drooling over them. 2k7, everyone looks like glossy ghosts. Nobody looks like themselves in it, wrong skin tones (see Gilbert Arenas), wristbands don't even resemble how they do in real life. And in Live '07 for 360 and PS3 everyone looks like chipmunks.

That's what I've been saying. I'm not going to buy any of these next-gen systems (aside from WII probably) because the graphics suck ass. I'll wait till PS5 or XBOX2000.

[reecedoc]

i really need 2 no whats good with this 2k7,is it the real deal? well i've been with 2k since dreamcast,4get nba live its garbage. i got a xbox, but im getting a 360 2mrw,just for 2k7,i seen some screenshots and i liked-but whats it like(the demo

[reecedoc]

is it going 2 be better than nba live 07

[Carbine]

Real fans of basketball should buy the 2K game.

Casual fan? Just looking for something fun to play with the friends? Live 07.

[deion2123]

is it going 2 be better than nba live 07
I heard IGN basically said Live 07 sucks balls in their preview..and that 2k7 completely owns it

[konex]

If you have a 360, you can download the demo. It's fantastic...

[schyza]

Dose anyone know if it is going to have a Dynasty type mode. That is the one thing that I think live has on 2k. I like season mode but a dynasty mode were you play more than 1 seasons and have to draft players and manage salary cap is the SH!T.

[ClutchCityReturns]

Dose anyone know if it is going to have a Dynasty type mode. That is the one thing that I think live has on 2k. I like season mode but a dynasty mode were you play more than 1 seasons and have to draft players and manage salary cap is the SH!T.

They've already been having that, so how could that be something that Live has/had on it?

:confusedshrug:

[schyza]

They've already been having that, so how could that be something that Live has/had on it?

:confusedshrug:


(no disrespect but)

That is the one thing that I think live has on 2k.

Meaning I think live has 2k beat on the dynasty mode front.

2k doses not have it and live dose!!! That is what I have seen I had both live06 and 2k6 on ps2 and the one thing I liked better about the EA one is the dynasty mode that 2k was lacking but if 2k adds it or something comparable I will get 2k over live no question since I just got the xbox360 and the graphics are sick.

[konex]

2K does have a dynasty mode. It's called "The Association".

[schyza]

2K doea have a dynasty mode. It's called "The Association".


OK cool that is new this year correct? :confusedshrug:

[abuC]

OK cool that is new this year correct? :confusedshrug:


Nah, the association has been in it since 2k5.


The demo is great, I havent stopped playing it, cant wait for the retail version. If Live is better, it will need to be an incredible game because this is already the best basketball game I've played.

[adamcz]

You can even play association with 8 players if I understand correctly.

[ClutchCityReturns]

schyza,

Can I get an apology?

:cry: :roll:

[geeWiz15]

2k had a dynasty in 2k4 also. I distinctly remember it. I don't know what "dynasty" is since Ive never had a game with it but 2k had a system where you picked a team, drafted players, traded, hired coaches and etc. if that's Dynasty then 2k had it in 2k4.

[albertpujols]

Real fans of basketball should buy the 2K game.

Casual fan? Just looking for something fun to play with the friends? Live 07.

Damn straight. I remember whenever I play 2K with friends, people would whine how complex it was to play. They were just crap at games. Usually I would then pop in Live and let the superstar cheap moves take over.

[PennyNYK1]

Well, NBA 2K7 is releasing in one week, so it's almost time to retire NBA 2K6. Thought it would be interesting to see what other's have done in "The Association" mode, so here's mine...

NBA 2K6 - XBox
The Association

Season Length: 29 Games
Preseason Games: On
Trade Deadline: On
Trade Override: Off
Owner Firing: On
Allow CPU Trades: On
Playoff Format: 1-1-1-1
Team Chemistry: On
Quarter Length: 5 Minutes
Simulated Quarter Length: 12 Minutes

Started: 2005
Ended: --
Playoffs: 5
Chamionships: 5
Profit: $178.74M

Team: Phoenix Suns
Started With: Default Roster

Starters

PG - #13 - Steve Nash (Rating: 90, Age: 37, Years Pro: 15 ) - 12.5 PPG, 13.2 APG, 4.9 SPG
SG - #32 - Rashad McCants (Rating: 90, Age: 27, Years Pro: 6) - 6.7 PPG, 2.3 APG, 1.9 SPG
SF - #93 - Ron Artest (Rating: 92, Age: 32, Years Pro: 12) - 33.2 PPG, 1.8 SPG
PF - #1 - Amare Stodemire (Rating: 99, Age: 29, Years Pro: 9) - 21.6 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 3.5 BPG
C - #34 - Ian Outlaw (Rating: 91, Age: 24, Years Pro: 3) - 8.8 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 2.7 BPG

Bench

SF - #24 - Marvin Williams - (Rating: 99, Age: 25, Years Pro: 6) - 11.5 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 2.2 SPG
C - #6 - Andrew Bogut - (Rating: 91, Age: 27, Years Pro: 6) - 3.2 PPG, 2.4 RPG, 1.2 BPG
PG - #4 - Nate Robinson - (Rating: 87, Age: 27, Years Pro: 6) - 5.9 PPG, 7.0 APG, 5.1 SPG
PF - #31 - Charlie Villanueva - (Rating: 84, Age: 27, Years Pro: 6) - 3.3 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 1.1 BPG
PG - #42 - Andre Lawson - (Rating: 82, Age: 23, Years Pro: 2) - 4.6 PPG, 1.1 APG, 1.0 SPG
SG - #3 - Boris Diaw - (Rating: 78, Age: 29, Years Pro: 8) - 10.4 PPG, 1.4 APG
PF - #36 - Rasheed Wallace - (Rating: 73, Age: 37, Years Pro: 16) - 3.1 PPG, 1.0 RPG

Team Ratings

Offense: 95
Defense: 85
Overall: 92

Year Currently In: 2010-2011

[qwerty]

You better have not lost any games.

[PennyNYK1]

how is marvin williams ur highest rated player
I'm in the 2010-2011 season, so I'd imagine that he was given an enormous amount of potential by the 2K crew after his college career and high draft choice.

[albertpujols]

It's funny cause their ratings are so high. Bogut 91? Williams 99?

Good record anyways---

[geeWiz15]

Shad Can'ts is a 90? I'll be damned.

[adamcz]

Shad Can'ts is a 90? I'll be damned.
In the year 2010, mind you.

[lebron_zoom]

[QUOTE=PennyNYK1

[ALBballer]

PG - #13 - Steve Nash (Rating: 90, Age: 37, Years Pro: 15 ) - 12.5 PPG, 13.2 APG, 4.9 SPG


:wtf:

[AppleNader]

Here are my bench players for my two NBA Live 06 dynasties I'm currently in:

Nets Dynasty Bench
C-Andrew Bynum
PF-Nenad Krstic
SF-James Posey
SG-Rashad McCants
PG-Chris Duhon

Sonics Dynasty Bench
C-Andrew Bynum
PF-Jason Collins
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-Trevor Ariza
PG-Luke Ridnour



which one is better in your opinion?

[AppleNader]

nets dynasty

I guess I overdid it on the athleticism for the sonics dynasty I guess. My Nets team was so unathletic, I had a lot of difficulty getting to the FT line

[Kobe24]

Both teams are horrible.

[AppleNader]

Both teams are horrible.

Its my bench:roll: And we are 3 time defending NBA champions on all-star difficulty and most realistic sliders.

[Kobe24]

How could you play more than 1 season? Same **** over and over again.

[AppleNader]

How could you play more than 1 season? Same **** over and over again.

:roll: True, Live 06 sucks. Buts its the only b-ball game I have on my own, since I can't always go play 2k6 with friends.

Plus, I simulate a lot.

[albertpujols]

I posted it before, here it is again---

Live 06

Difficulty: Hall-of-Fame

PG: Milt Palacio
SG: Trenton Hassell
SF: Stacey Augmen
PF: Bo Outlaw
C: Pavel Podkolzin

Bench
Junior Harrington
Pape Sow
Joey Graham
Matt Bonner

Year 2: 60-22

Thats a challenge. No superstar stuff, no big time shooters, no big time blockers. Sure, it may be one of the crapiest teams of all time. But it makes you really focus on your game.

[AppleNader]

I posted it before, here it is again---

Live 06

Difficulty: Hall-of-Fame

PG: Milt Palacio
SG: Trenton Hassell
SF: Stacey Augmen
PF: Bo Outlaw
C: Pavel Podkolzin

Bench
Junior Harrington
Pape Sow
Joey Graham
Matt Bonner

Year 2: 60-22

Thats a challenge. No superstar stuff, no big time shooters, no big time blockers. Sure, it may be one of the crapiest teams of all time. But it makes you really focus on your game.

You are the master.:bowdown:

What is your salary like?:roll:

[The Mamba]

Chicago Bulls

Kirk Hinrich
Kobe Bryant
Luol Deng
Elton Brand
Tyson Chandler

[adamcz]

Why are there so many people in this thread that haven't joined our 2k7 league? If it's because you don't have 360 yet, find a grocery store that sells it so you can buy it with food stamps. Or put it on layaway at WalMart. Doesn't make sense, so many 2k fans not in the league!

[Da KO King]

Why are there so many people in this thread that haven't joined our 2k7 league? If it's because you don't have 360 yet, find a grocery store that sells it so you can buy it with food stamps. Or put it on layaway at WalMart. Doesn't make sense, so many 2k fans not in the league!No thanks. Rather keep playing on XBox. XBox version gets a roster editing program made for it every year. Actually all the 2K games get roster editors made for them.

That's why I'm still playing the best football game ever, ESPN NLF 2K5. :rockon:

[Milkman]

No thanks. Rather keep playing on XBox. XBox version gets a roster editing program made for it every year. Actually all the 2K games get roster editors made for them.

That's why I'm still playing the best football game ever, ESPN NLF 2K5. :rockon:
what's the roster editing program called?

[Da KO King]

what's the roster editing program called?It's done by a guy calling himself Flying Finn. No formal name or anything. Just called roster edit program.

With the roster edits you have so many options that you can really get close to recreating the NBA. Things like position edits mean no PG is as strong as a PF but no PF is a quick as a PG.

Subtle things that change the dynamic of the game when you play it.

[Milkman]

got a link to it please?

ive been playing nba2k6 on xbox for a year, ive downloaded latest rosters and kept upto date on most trades/signings myself.

[Younggrease]

just downloaded 2k7, it is amazing

Could be the best basketball game ever made. Im sooo impressed

[reecedoc]

hahaah yeah/i downloaded nba 2k7 on my xbox360, and i cant believe what the f**k i was playing, that s**t is so f**king real,i cant wait 2 it comes out,thats the best damn sports game out,and i been a 2k fan since dreamcast i dont think im ever coming outside when this s**t drops, its really gone be some y2k for me

[Solid Snake]

I can't wait for this, this will be one of the few nice games I'll actually buy. World of Warcraft takes so much of my time though. Trying to get exhaulted with AB and WSG.

[SCdac]

I'm planning on getting an xbox360 just for this game (well, that and the PS3 will be too expensive). And I'm used to playing NBA Live too!... It looks that good. I love all the details and players' manurisms. It looks pretty realistic. Now I just want to check out the gameplay. Since it'll probably be the first game I play on xbox360, and I've been using a PS2 for the last couple of years, I'm really anticipated.