Gerald Wallace says Yao and T-mac are best 1-2 punch since MJ and Pippen

[TmacsRockets]

Best 1-2 Punch in the league (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylt=AqIS4X1E7krXPsLjysxFxfG8vLYF?gid=200711 1130&prov=ap)


"I don't think there's a better 1-2 combination ... they might be the best combination since MJ (Michael Jordan) and (Scottie) Pippen," Bobcats forward Gerald Wallace said. "Tracy is a great offensive player ... and Yao Ming is basically what they call him, the Great Wall of China. Once he gets the ball, he's pretty much unstoppable."

[Lebron23]

My Attempt At Humour Haz Failedz, So I Juzt Liek Editedz?

[J_Rock3ts]

Fudge is an idiot.

[AItheAnswer3]

How much did Gerald Wallace get paid to say that?

[mhg88]

Yeah, much better than the Kobe/Shaq duo with 3 rings. Get to the second round or GFTO.

:applause:

[BeebCats]

"I don't think there's a better 1-2 combination ... they might be the best combination since MJ (Michael Jordan) and (Scottie) Pippen," Bobcats forward Gerald Wallace said. "Tracy is a great offensive player ... and Yao Ming is basically what they call him, the Great Wall of China. Once he gets the ball, he's pretty much unstoppable."

Sounds more like a spur of the moment, "they beat us" kind of thing to say.

[ihatetimthomas]

Nope. I guess playoff success has nothig to do with it at al

[eliteballer]

Shaq and Kobe would sweep them.

[worldbefree]

Who the fudge is Gerald Wallace and why is he talking?

[Rockets(T-mac)]

Well I guess that's why Wallace is a player and not an analyst.

And I hope everyone knows that this guy isn't a real Rockets fan.

[NOHCP3]

Looking for attention maybe??He's wrong but I guess we'll never know how good this duo could have been. Neither could stay healthy, and now that theyve added Artest to the fold its more of a trio.

[JJ81]

Best 1-2 Punch in the league (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylt=AqIS4X1E7krXPsLjysxFxfG8vLYF?gid=200711 1130&prov=ap)

Yao and T-Mac? What have they done? The dont even work together significantly. What about Kobe and Shaq?

What is Gerald thinking?

[SCREWstonRockets]

Gerald Wallace knows what hes talking about. :cheers:

[1~Gibson~1]

Who the fudge is Gerald Wallace and why is he talking?Gerald Wallace=G-Force

He plays SF 4 the b-cats

[Nets fan 93]

Gerald Wallace=G-Force

He plays SF 4 the b-cats
I think he was kidding

[mvp_status]

Gerald Wallace=G-Force

He plays SF 4 the b-cats

Also the victim of Deshawn Stevenson's lone highlight in the NBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO815gf252g

[Godfather]

http://www.bboke.cn/photo/mdvirgin.jpg

:roll:

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[Allstar24]

Why would you make a thread about anything Gerald Wallace has to say? He is as insignificant a being as you are. His opinion has as much value as yours does, which is ****.

[SilentObserver]

This must be a joke:wtf: , Gerald=retard.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

kobe and pau gasol are a better 1-2 punch.
kobe and odom are a better 1-2 punch.
kobe and bynum are a better 1-2 punch.
and shaq and kobe were the better 1-2 punch.

[Spudjjay]

http://nbcsportsmedia1.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/071102/071102_garnett_vmed_8p.widec.jpg

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

http://nbcsportsmedia1.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/071102/071102_garnett_vmed_8p.widec.jpg

nah..better title for them would be most hungriest 1-2 punch since malone and stockton, but they aren't so hungry anymore, they ate. hopefully they will just go away now.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

http://nbcsportsmedia1.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/071102/071102_garnett_vmed_8p.widec.jpg


More like losers who came together in there 30's to win a title.....

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

More like losers who came together in there 30's to win a title.....

:cheers:

[Jordandunk23]

WTF? so he forgot Kobe and Shaq? Duncan Robinson? Duncan Parker? hell wade and shaq was a better duo lol.... y... umm because they won a championship!

i mean im a rockets fan but m not stupid. gerald wallace has no reason, hes just not an analyst :oldlol:

[mvp_status]

Maybe l'll consider it if they find a way to get past the 1-2 punch of Deron/Boozer in the postseason

[Darius07]

kobe and pau gasol are a better 1-2 punch.
kobe and odom are a better 1-2 punch.
kobe and bynum are a better 1-2 punch.
and shaq and kobe were the better 1-2 punch.
now u just went a litttleee to far. Unless you were joking:confusedshrug:

[Jordan80]

well, apparently gerald wallace has had too many concussions. i would consider kobe and shaq the best 1-2 punch since jordan and pippen. they only won 3 championships in a row.

[Interminator]

Sounds like somebody who wouldn't mind a trade to Houston.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

now u just went a litttleee to far. Unless you were joking:confusedshrug:

nah, i'm not really joking...until them rockets with ming and mac get out of the first round, i don't even understand how they are in the talks.

[Maniak]

Darn all those concussions...

[G-train]

nah, i'm not really joking...until them rockets with ming and mac get out of the first round, i don't even understand how they are in the talks.

perhaps because the talks are the best duo not the best team.

[Chrono90]

negative.

Kobe and shaq is better

maybe nash and Amare is better too

[ds123]

I remember the quote. He said it the day after Yao/Tmac and Co. just finished beating the crap out of them:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=271111030

[J_Rock3ts]

Wow, Yao torched them that night. 34 points on 13-15 shooting? :eek:

Gasol and Bryant are better.
Pierce and Garnett are better.

IMO.

[LutherHeadJob]

Wallace can come warm the bench for Houston.

Fat man and ****** are way better than YaoMac, he must hang out with Howard.

and btw YaoMac > KobeBynum,pau,odum...IF Yao and Tmac can find somewya to stay on the court together

[G-train]

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[G-train]

Too much Wallace hate in this thread.
The interview was in the heat of the moment, right after a game where Yao played like prime shaq. In hindsight he would realise that Shaq/Bryant won those rings etc. Just a momentary lapse obviously.

[23airjordan23]

Yao and Tmac at 100% health are easily better than either of those duos.
Yao is the most dominant big guy in the league when healthy, and McGrady is every bit the player Pierce is and only a notch below Bryant.

Healthy Yao >>> Gasol


They are never healthy though, and they haven't gotten out of the first round one the same team. Pau and Kobe have.

[Jasper]

Wallace a few years back was looking to get a contract on the free agency market , landed back in Bobcatville.
Ironically it was his best year.
Just pondering not the statement , but the idea of him playing for Houston for example...
(his statement had no merit as others have pointed out)

[G-train]

They are never healthy though, and they haven't gotten out of the first round one the same team. Pau and Kobe have.

Dont make yourself look stupid. Pau, Kobe, Odom, role players playing well and excellent coaching got past the first round.

Yao Ming when 100% is a monster. Tmac is an excellent top tier swingman.
We are talking duos. 1-2 punches. Not teams.

[shaoyut]

:oldlol: kobe and shaq would own them

[Darius07]

nah, i'm not really joking...until them rockets with ming and mac get out of the first round, i don't even understand how they are in the talks.
Yes but when you say "Kobe and Odom" are better, then thats just plain stupid. Because you cant make the argument that they ever achieved more and reokets won a lot more games then they did.

[Gifted Mind]

Quotes are said relative to a particular situation. And then later are taken out of context. This is exactly the case here with Gerald Wallace.

[baseketball4life]

Shaq and Kobe would dom them

[ronnymac]

When both tracy and yao have played together, the rockets have an amazing record of 171 TO ONLY 69 LOSSES. having said that, shaq and kobe>>yao and tracy. shaq in his prime was so far ahead of the current yao its not funny. also kobe in his prime is much better then the current mcgrady. orlando mcgrady is another case.

[G-train]

Shaq and Kobe would dom them

I dont think anyone doubts that, even Wallace in hindsight.

But posters go too far saying kobe/Odom are better etc.

[TmacsRockets]

When both tracy and yao have played together, the rockets have an amazing record of 171 TO ONLY 69 LOSSES.

:rockon:

[AJ2k8]

Finally a topic that brings kobe fans and shaq fans together aye:bowdown:

Its fitting to because its two of the most liked players against the most loved player(yao)
:hammertime:

[dawsey6]

Sounds more like a spur of the moment, "they beat us" kind of thing to say.

Exactly. And at that, way to leave the "might be" out of the title. Way to take what he said out of context.

[D.J.]

Payton/Kemp, Stockton/Malone, Duncan/Robinson, and Shaq/Kobe were all better and I didn't even get to Jordan and Pippen. Even when both are healthy, McGrady and Yao aren't that great. They're definitely a solid duo, but not the best.

[shawbryant]

:roll:

[el_locoteee]

Payton/Kemp, Stockton/Malone, Duncan/Robinson, and Shaq/Kobe were all better and I didn't even get to Jordan and Pippen. Even when both are healthy, McGrady and Yao aren't that great. They're definitely a solid duo, but not the best.


Those duos play during Jordan Pippen era, not after.

[D.J.]

Those duos play during Jordan Pippen era, not after.


They did play after their prime. Even though Jordan and Pippen were still around in 1997, they were past their prime.

[DCL]

They did play after their prime. Even though Jordan and Pippen were still around in 1997, they were past their prime.

:oldlol:

kemp and payton disbanded before jordan and pippen era even ended.

kemp was already in cleveland when jordan and pip won their second 3-peat in 1998.

[D.J.]

:oldlol:

kemp and payton disbanded before jordan and pippen era even ended.

kemp was already in cleveland when jordan and pip won their second 3-peat in 1998.


Payton and Kemp did play together in 1996-97, their last season. My point was that the duos I mentioned did play with Jordan/Pippen, but it was after their prime.

[ronnymac]

Payton/Kemp, Stockton/Malone, Duncan/Robinson, and Shaq/Kobe were all better and I didn't even get to Jordan and Pippen. Even when both are healthy, McGrady and Yao aren't that great. They're definitely a solid duo, but not the best.
Have a look ast there record together when there both healthy. 171 WINS TO ONLY 69 LOSSES.

[ukballer]

What Gerald said maybe isn't quite true, but there is no denying they are still one hell of a 1-2 punch.

I just gotta laugh at some of the retards calling Gerald Wallace insignificant as if they don't know who he is :roll: Just because he's not an All-Star (yet) and plays for a team not many really care about, it makes his opinion insignificant? Morons :lol

[Lamar Doom]

also, we greatly prefer "crash" wallace to "g-force"

[ukballer]

also, we greatly prefer "crash" wallace to "g-force"

Lol who's 'we'? :confusedshrug:

I don't think it particularly matters :lol

[gpfanz]

Lets hope we see that this coming season.. :applause:

[VCMVP1551]

Hmmm Shaq and Kobe went to 4 finals, won 3 straight and both were among the best individual players in the league.

Shaq

1999-2000
Regular Season- 29.7 ppg, 13.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.0 bpg, 59.4 FG%
Playoffs- 30.7 ppg, 15.4 rpg, 3.1 apg, 2.4 bpg, 56.6 FG%
Finals- 38.0 ppg, 16.7 rpg, 2.3 apg, 2.7 bpg, 61.1 FG%

2000-2001
Regular Season- 28.7 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 3.7 apg, 2.8 bpg, 57.2 FG%
Playoffs- 30.4 ppg, 15.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 2.5 bpg 55.5 FG%
Finals- 33.0 ppg, 15.8 rpg, 4.8 apg, 3.4 bpg, 57.3 FG%

2001-2002
Regular Season- 27.2 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 3.0 apg, 2.0 bpg, 57.9 FG%
Playoffs- 28.5 ppg, 12.6 rpg, 2.8 apg, 2.5 bpg, 52.9 FG%
Finals- 36.3 ppg, 12.3 rpg, 3.8 apg, 2.8 bpg, 59.5 FG%

3 seasons combined
Regular Season- 28.6 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.5 apg, 2.6 bpg, 57.5 FG%
Playoffs- 29.9 ppg, 14.5 rpg, 3.0 apg, 2.4 bpg, 55.2 FG%
Finals- 35.9 ppg, 15.2 rpg, 3.5 apg, 3.2 bpg, 59.5 FG%

Kobe

1999-2000
Regular Season- 22.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 4.9 apg, 1.6 spg 46.8 FG%
Playoffs- 21.1 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.4 apg, 1.5 spg, 44.2 FG%
Finals- 15.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.0 spg, 36.7 FG%

2000-2001
Regular Season- 28.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.7 spg, 46.4 FG%
Playoffs- 29.4 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 6.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 46.9 FG%
Finals- 24.6 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 5.8 apg, 1.4 spg, 41.5 FG%

2001-2002
Regular Season- 25.2 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.5 spg, 46.9 FG%
Playoffs- 26.6 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.4 spg, 43.2 FG%
Finals- 26.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 5.3 apg, 1.5 spg, 52.9 FG%

3 seasons combined
Regular Season- 25.4 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 46.7 FG%
Playoffs- 25.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 4.9 apg, 1.5 spg, 44.7 FG%
Finals- 24.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.3 spg, 42.5 FG%

During that time Shaq won a scoring title, 3 Finals MVP's, regular season MVP and finished among the league leaders in rebounds and blocks twice. He was top 3 in scoring all 3 years too.

In those 3 years Shaq finished top 3 in MVP voting all 3 years and was clearly robbed in '01 of his second MVP. Kpbe also finished top 5 one year and 9th another.

In 2003 Kobe finished 3rd in MVP and Shaq finished 5th while they took a crappy supporting cast to 50 wins and the 2nd round of the playoffs.

In 2004 Kobe and Shaq finished 5th and 6th respectively in MVP voting and won 56 games while reaching the Finals.

No matter how much adversity the Kobe and Shaq Lakers never got knocked out in the first round, the T-Mac/Yao Rockets haven't made it past the first round. Losing in the finals was considered a failure for that team, some including Loki have even argued that as a duo Shaq and Kobe were better than Jordan and Pippen.

In comparison this is the Rockets 4 years of Yao and T-Mac to compare those years to.

In 2005 T-Mac finished 7th in MVP voting, in 2007 he finished 6th and in 2008 he finished 8th. Yao has never even gotten votes as far as I know.

In 3 seasons(not including 2005-2006) the Rockets have averaged 53 wins with T-Mac and Yao and never made it past the first round. In the Lakers 3peat seasons they averaged 60 wins. And before the injury excuse is used in those 3 seasons Shaq averaged 73 games per season and Kobe averaged 71 games per season while T-Mac has averaged 72 games in the seasons I mentioned and Yao averaged 61 so the only difference is that Yao missed 10 more games per season than Kobe pretty much.

You may say those 10 games more than make up for the 7 additional losses that the Rockets have averaged but the Rockets went 40-23 without Yao in those 3 seasons.

The Lakers had plenty of injuries and more adversity than the Rockets could possibly have yet in their two non-championship seasons this decade with O'Neal and Bryant they won 50 games each year, got to the 2nd round and got to the finals.

This is a laughable statement by Wallace...oh wait wasn't he on that 2002 Kings team? Maybe he's not exactly an un bias opinion.

Garnett and Pierce proved to be a better duo...they won 66 games and the championship. They destroyed a favored Lakers team, beat the reigning Eastern Conference champs and beat the best Eastern Conference team of the decade(Detroit). Garnett finished 3rd in MVP voting and won the Defensive Player Of The Year award while Pierce also got a few votes.

This is a ridiculous statement. Didn't Wallace have a concussion last year though? I guess he never fully recovered.

[jbot]

i think he's still a bit woosy after one of his many falls.

[Heretik32]

also, we greatly prefer "crash" wallace to "g-force"

Crash is gone. His doctors forbade him to kamikaze into the zone any more, so he now takes more outside shots and generally plays less aggressively.

[Mamba]

Hmmm Shaq and Kobe went to 4 finals, won 3 straight and both were among the best individual players in the league.

Shaq

1999-2000
Regular Season- 29.7 ppg, 13.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.0 bpg, 59.4 FG%
Playoffs- 30.7 ppg, 15.4 rpg, 3.1 apg, 2.4 bpg, 56.6 FG%
Finals- 38.0 ppg, 16.7 rpg, 2.3 apg, 2.7 bpg, 61.1 FG%

2000-2001
Regular Season- 28.7 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 3.7 apg, 2.8 bpg, 57.2 FG%
Playoffs- 30.4 ppg, 15.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 2.5 bpg 55.5 FG%
Finals- 33.0 ppg, 15.8 rpg, 4.8 apg, 3.4 bpg, 57.3 FG%

2001-2002
Regular Season- 27.2 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 3.0 apg, 2.0 bpg, 57.9 FG%
Playoffs- 28.5 ppg, 12.6 rpg, 2.8 apg, 2.5 bpg, 52.9 FG%
Finals- 36.3 ppg, 12.3 rpg, 3.8 apg, 2.8 bpg, 59.5 FG%

3 seasons combined
Regular Season- 28.6 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.5 apg, 2.6 bpg, 57.5 FG%
Playoffs- 29.9 ppg, 14.5 rpg, 3.0 apg, 2.4 bpg, 55.2 FG%
Finals- 35.9 ppg, 15.2 rpg, 3.5 apg, 3.2 bpg, 59.5 FG%

Kobe

1999-2000
Regular Season- 22.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 4.9 apg, 1.6 spg 46.8 FG%
Playoffs- 21.1 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.4 apg, 1.5 spg, 44.2 FG%
Finals- 15.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.0 spg, 36.7 FG%

2000-2001
Regular Season- 28.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.7 spg, 46.4 FG%
Playoffs- 29.4 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 6.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 46.9 FG%
Finals- 24.6 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 5.8 apg, 1.4 spg, 41.5 FG%

2001-2002
Regular Season- 25.2 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.5 spg, 46.9 FG%
Playoffs- 26.6 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.4 spg, 43.2 FG%
Finals- 26.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 5.3 apg, 1.5 spg, 52.9 FG%

3 seasons combined
Regular Season- 25.4 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 46.7 FG%
Playoffs- 25.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 4.9 apg, 1.5 spg, 44.7 FG%
Finals- 24.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.3 spg, 42.5 FG%

During that time Shaq won a scoring title, 3 Finals MVP's, regular season MVP and finished among the league leaders in rebounds and blocks twice. He was top 3 in scoring all 3 years too.

In those 3 years Shaq finished top 3 in MVP voting all 3 years and was clearly robbed in '01 of his second MVP. Kpbe also finished top 5 one year and 9th another.

In 2003 Kobe finished 3rd in MVP and Shaq finished 5th while they took a crappy supporting cast to 50 wins and the 2nd round of the playoffs.

In 2004 Kobe and Shaq finished 5th and 6th respectively in MVP voting and won 56 games while reaching the Finals.

No matter how much adversity the Kobe and Shaq Lakers never got knocked out in the first round, the T-Mac/Yao Rockets haven't made it past the first round. Losing in the finals was considered a failure for that team, some including Loki have even argued that as a duo Shaq and Kobe were better than Jordan and Pippen.

In comparison this is the Rockets 4 years of Yao and T-Mac to compare those years to.

In 2005 T-Mac finished 7th in MVP voting, in 2007 he finished 6th and in 2008 he finished 8th. Yao has never even gotten votes as far as I know.

In 3 seasons(not including 2005-2006) the Rockets have averaged 53 wins with T-Mac and Yao and never made it past the first round. In the Lakers 3peat seasons they averaged 60 wins. And before the injury excuse is used in those 3 seasons Shaq averaged 73 games per season and Kobe averaged 71 games per season while T-Mac has averaged 72 games in the seasons I mentioned and Yao averaged 61 so the only difference is that Yao missed 10 more games per season than Kobe pretty much.

You may say those 10 games more than make up for the 7 additional losses that the Rockets have averaged but the Rockets went 40-23 without Yao in those 3 seasons.

The Lakers had plenty of injuries and more adversity than the Rockets could possibly have yet in their two non-championship seasons this decade with O'Neal and Bryant they won 50 games each year, got to the 2nd round and got to the finals.

This is a laughable statement by Wallace...oh wait wasn't he on that 2002 Kings team? Maybe he's not exactly an un bias opinion.

Garnett and Pierce proved to be a better duo...they won 66 games and the championship. They destroyed a favored Lakers team, beat the reigning Eastern Conference champs and beat the best Eastern Conference team of the decade(Detroit). Garnett finished 3rd in MVP voting and won the Defensive Player Of The Year award while Pierce also got a few votes.

This is a ridiculous statement. Didn't Wallace have a concussion last year though? I guess he never fully recovered.
only a laker fan can turn an NBA players comment on a different team to offend kobe and the superlakers.

:rolleyes:

:rant

[Californiafan]

I'm surprised Wallace doesn't make some quote like "Ewing Jr. is the best player named Ewing since ... uh Patrick Ewing."

[JJ81]

Hahaha, there's been many better than them - they havnt done anything