Acb.

[la bomba]

Thought that for those that follow the ACB closely we could have a thread going for it.
Barcelona so far look really strong.Last night they were 12 down at half time and still won by about 20.Lakovic top scored,this is the guy that they were trying to get rid off??Fran Vazquez looks like he is back to his best!!
DKV Joventud who will be missing ricky Rubio for atleast 6 weeks also won with a great Demond Mallet.estudiantes have started like they did last year 2 defeats and Iurbentia Bilbao on the other end of the spectrum have 2 wins continuing their incredible results from last year.Pamesa have also got 2 out of 2 Ws.More games tonight.

[berraco]

Yeap. Bar

[la bomba]

[QUOTE=berraco]Yeap. Bar

[berraco]

the difference with Lakovic this year is that barca have a lot of depth,last year they wanted him to take over as the leader and he wasn't up to it.this year he can afford to have a couple of 3 point games because there is navarro,sada,grimau,andersen,ilyasova and now a much improved Vazquez.Same with santiago when he is good he is very good when he is bad he is really bad.But because of the depth in strength they can afford these guys to have the odd poor game.

yeah, I see what you mean. Besides, I think he could be playing more SG than PG this year (mainly while Navarro is still out), because Bar

[la bomba]

Did anyone see the barca lakers game? seemed a good one.
108 104.

[la bomba]

How can the NBA be so ignorant, they are a microcosm of the entire country!! winterthur fc barcelona?? they haven't been winterthur for two years.I was looking at the nba.com boxscore. they can't even get their own countrymen right E.Barret when its A Barret.Then the rest V vasquez instead of F, A Andersen instead of D, L Lakovic instead of J,and the rest B.Basile and T.Trias etc etc.

[Grinder]

Did anyone see the barca lakers game? seemed a good one.
108 104.

Yeah I watched it, it was 15-20 points the whole time until the last 3 minuets when Sun Yue, Brandon Heath, CJ Giles, Coby Karl, and Luke Walton were in the game. Navarro torched them with 34 points and a bunch of threes. Bynum was destroying Vasquez and Andersen when he was in the game and Odom was beating up on Basile and Barton.

[b.jerk]

Yeah I watched it, it was 15-20 points the whole time until the last 3 minuets when Sun Yue, Brandon Heath, CJ Giles, Coby Karl, and Luke Walton were in the game. Navarro torched them with 34 points and a bunch of threes. Bynum was destroying Vasquez and Andersen when he was in the game and Odom was beating up on Basile and Barton.

If you want to please David Stern so much than why don't you give him a blow job. Mr Stern could find it more pleasing than your honkisms.

[Grinder]

If you want to please David Stern so much than why don't you give him a blow job. Mr Stern could find it more pleasing than your honkisms.
You're fixation on the NBA and Stern is disturbing. :oldlol:

Actually, the lineup was Brandon Heath, Joe Crawford, Coby Karl, Sun Yue, and CJ Giles and they were still enough to hold off Navarro, Lakovic, Andersen, Ilyasova, and Barrett.

Clipps lead Barca 67-59.

[b.jerk]

You're fixation on the NBA and Stern is disturbing. :oldlol:

Actually, the lineup was Brandon Heath, Joe Crawford, Coby Karl, Sun Yue, and CJ Giles and they were still enough to hold off Navarro, Lakovic, Andersen, Ilyasova, and Barrett.

Clipps lead Barca 67-59.

Sigmund Freud would say your honkism for the nba displays an inner need in your subconscious to be David Stern's next boy plaything. Not that there's anything wrong with that in today's america but if you love David Stern so much why don't you marry him, you can in San Fransisco.

[Grinder]

Sigmund Freud would say your honkism for the nba displays an inner need in your subconscious to be David Stern's next boy plaything. Not that there's anything wrong with that in today's america but if you love David Stern so much why don't you marry him, you can in San Fransisco.

Freud also believes in the Oedipus complex making you an incestuous piece of ****. :oldlol:

[b.jerk]

Freud also believes in the Oedipus complex making you an incestuous piece of ****. :oldlol:

Grinder and David Stern sitting in a tree, F-U-C-K-I-N-G. First comes honkism than comes demagogy than comes chains and whips and the 10 inch plastic dildo.

[Grinder]

Grinder and David Stern sitting in a tree, F-U-C-K-I-N-G. First comes honkism than comes demagogy than comes chains and whips and the 10 inch plastic dildo.

Damn, you need help baaaadly, is this what is coming out of Israel these days :oldlol:

[b.jerk]

Damn, you need help baaaadly, is this what is coming out of Israel these days :oldlol:

My sources in israel say that you give David Stern blowjobs in between repeating his rhetoric. My sources also say that David Stern brags your tongue is the best he ever had.

[Huey Freeman]

Clips win.

[la bomba]

Yeah I watched it, it was 15-20 points the whole time until the last 3 minuets when Sun Yue, Brandon Heath, CJ Giles, Coby Karl, and Luke Walton were in the game. Navarro torched them with 34 points and a bunch of threes. Bynum was destroying Vasquez and Andersen when he was in the game and Odom was beating up on Basile and Barton.
Where they owned by the clippers too??
This is a team that has flown to the states a day after playing a league game and now has to play a euroleague one! Barca were giving xavi rey time,who never plays in the league and also resting their players by rotating a lot.So they deserve credit for actually trying to compete and doing so in insignificant friendlies

[Grinder]

Where they owned by the clippers too??
This is a team that has flown to the states a day after playing a league game and now has to play a euroleague one! Barca were giving xavi rey time,who never plays in the league and also resting their players by rotating a lot.So they deserve credit for actually trying to compete and doing so in insignificant friendlies

Definitely deserve credit, however the Clips didn't play with their three best players (Baron Davis, Camby, Kaman) although the game was close. I don't get why they flew over in the middle of their season, it has to be a distraction.

[b.jerk]

Where they owned by the clippers too??
This is a team that has flown to the states a day after playing a league game and now has to play a euroleague one! Barca were giving xavi rey time,who never plays in the league and also resting their players by rotating a lot.So they deserve credit for actually trying to compete and doing so in insignificant friendlies

The Clippers won because it was a home game with only nba officials, there's a reason the nba doesn't allow their teams to play in euroleague stadiums with only euroleague officials. Now I don't think it's a good reason because fans won't stop buying tickets because of one loss but there's a reason.

[Huey Freeman]

Definitely deserve credit, however the Clips didn't play with their three best players (Baron Davis, Camby, Kaman) although the game was close. I don't get why they flew over in the middle of their season, it has to be a distraction.
Any chance to play NBA, I guess.

[la bomba]

Any chance to play NBA, I guess.
personally i dont think playing in the nba is a dream for a lot of players anymore,Navarro found out it wasn't all its made up to be.It has to do with money.Euroleague and barca get a good packet out of it,in sporting terms it is an awful move.But sports are finance.If I was a pro in a city and a club as great as Barcelona,Madrid,Athens etc earning a packet in highly competitive leagues why would I go to live in Utah or Memphis and have no hopes of winning and playing with a lot of guys looking after their numbers??It wouldn't make any sense.Marc Gasol what are you thinking off???

[gsafier]

personally i dont think playing in the nba is a dream for a lot of players anymore,Navarro found out it wasn't all its made up to be.It has to do with money.Euroleague and barca get a good packet out of it,in sporting terms it is an awful move.But sports are finance.If I was a pro in a city and a club as great as Barcelona,Madrid,Athens etc earning a packet in highly competitive leagues why would I go to live in Utah or Memphis and have no hopes of winning and playing with a lot of guys looking after their numbers??It wouldn't make any sense.Marc Gasol what are you thinking off???

Marc is still young and could make himself a decent career in the NBA. Maybe even a role player in a top team. Navarro was too old to do anything meaningful in the NBA.

If I was a young prospect, I would go to the NBA just to tell myself I tried. Otherwise it would have been a "what-if" all my life.

[Grinder]

personally i dont think playing in the nba is a dream for a lot of players anymore,Navarro found out it wasn't all its made up to be.It has to do with money.Euroleague and barca get a good packet out of it,in sporting terms it is an awful move.But sports are finance.If I was a pro in a city and a club as great as Barcelona,Madrid,Athens etc earning a packet in highly competitive leagues why would I go to live in Utah or Memphis and have no hopes of winning and playing with a lot of guys looking after their numbers??It wouldn't make any sense.Marc Gasol what are you thinking off???

Utah having no chance of winning? What are you on...?

[Huey Freeman]

Utah having no chance of winning? What are you on...?
Seriously.

I think NBA has more small market teams in contention for a championship than any other league (I mean look at Russia, CSKA is the dominant team).

[pirrimarzon]

Real Madrid is a bust. There's no game creation, Sanchez is old, Lopez is injured and Llull is still very young. No player can make his own shoot, and in the frontcourt only Reyes is skilled enough.

[la bomba]

Utah having no chance of winning? What are you on...?
They never won with stockton and malone.comeback to me when they are in the finals.

[la bomba]

Marc is still young and could make himself a decent career in the NBA. Maybe even a role player in a top team. Navarro was too old to do anything meaningful in the NBA.

If I was a young prospect, I would go to the NBA just to tell myself I tried. Otherwise it would have been a "what-if" all my life.
what-if what?
what if roriguez had not gone?he might have been playing for a good club in europe earning money and minutes and experience and could have been in an olympic games.instead for two years he has rot!If Marc Gasol had gone to barca he could have been in one of the best teams in europe with a great chance at the euroleague.personally those goals are more interesting for me,I know am in a minority,but I fail to see what the attraction of playing for nothing other than your stats and living in memphis has.I have faith that there will be more players like Bodiroga in the future who decline the NBA and say and play in Europe.It won't happen too often I know but some will.

[la bomba]

anyway its an acb thread,the reference to the nba were the two barca games in L.A.Those over lets leave the NBA out of this forum.Good win by unicaja last night.Estudiantes seem to be destined to another bad year and Gran Canaria keep impressing.

[Grinder]

Ricky is starting to get back into form. He had 8 points (2-3; 1-1 3 pt), 10 assists, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals in only 20 minutes of play. That'd be about 15 NBA assists in 20 minutes, incredible.

[la bomba]

Andersen at barca is starting to play his best.An overlooked and probably most underrated player is Sada,he is so important for barca.The amount of things he does for the team that arent stats.his defence,intensity,unselfishness etc.He rebounds he assists.I think the way Barca have thrashed madrid,montepaschi and panathinaikos of late show that they are the team to beat if they keep their good form.

[Huey Freeman]

Ricky is starting to get back into form. He had 8 points (2-3; 1-1 3 pt), 10 assists, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals in only 20 minutes of play. That'd be about 15 NBA assists in 20 minutes, incredible.
Ricky Rubio is the man.

He's available to draft in the NBA draft next year, right?

[Grinder]

Ricky Rubio is the man.

He's available to draft in the NBA draft next year, right?

He'd be eligible, but apparently he told Brandon Jennings that he won't declare until next year at least.

[la bomba]

He'd be eligible, but apparently he told Brandon Jennings that he won't declare until next year at least.
Rubio has his feet on the ground he will not go to the NBA for atleast another 2 years.

[berraco]

Rubio has his feet on the ground he will not go to the NBA for atleast another 2 years.

Agreed. First, because this current season will be his first as the best man on the team, and that will be tough for him. And second, because he knows he can improve more in Europe and be a top 2 pick without doubt in two years.

[b.jerk]

Agreed. First, because this current season will be his first as the best man on the team, and that will be tough for him. And second, because he knows he can improve more in Europe and be a top 2 pick without doubt in two years.

I don't see Ricky Rubio being a top 2 pick in the nba draft. He's what the euroleague looks for but not what the nba is looking for.

[Huey Freeman]

I don't see Ricky Rubio being a top 2 pick in the nba draft. He's what the euroleague looks for but not what the nba is looking for.
I think there are a lot of teams who'd like to upgrade at the 1. I wouldn't be surprised if Ricky does go #1 or #2 overall.

[b.jerk]

I think there are a lot of teams who'd like to upgrade at the 1. I wouldn't be surprised if Ricky does go #1 or #2 overall.

The NBA is a closed league. it doesn't matter how much better you are, if you're not what the league wants you're not invited. Ricky Rubio has been excepted by the nba, but he isn't what nba gm's are looking for in the top or second pick. Why does Ricky Rubio need to play in the nba anyway, the nba is a joke. Even nascar and the nhl laughs at it.

[Huey Freeman]

The NBA is a closed league. it doesn't matter how much better you are, if you're not what the league wants you're not invited. Ricky Rubio has been excepted by the nba, but he isn't what nba gm's are looking for in the top or second pick. Why does Ricky Rubio need to play in the nba anyway, the nba is a joke. Even nascar and the nhl laughs at it.
NASCAR is on the verge of collapsing.

[b.jerk]

NASCAR is on the verge of collapsing.

Nascar isn't on the verge of collapsing.

[Huey Freeman]

Nascar isn't on the verge of collapsing.
Have you been to a NASCAR race this past season?

Numbers are dwindling. Teams are trying to find more cost cutting measures, the big three aren't exactly healthy (Ford is probably in the best condition at this point).

You say you don't hate the NBA, but you do. Quit hating.

[b.jerk]

Have you been to a NASCAR race this past season?

Numbers are dwindling. Teams are trying to find more cost cutting measures, the big three aren't exactly healthy (Ford is probably in the best condition at this point).

You say you don't hate the NBA, but you do. Quit hating.

Nearly every league is cutting back including the nfl, mlb and nba. The only league spending more is big soccer and the euroleague. The nba is going through a basketball recession and lacks creativity and interest. The nba is a boring league. You can call the euroleague and it's teams like panathanikos, olympiacos, cska, tau, maccabi, barcelona many things but they're not boring on and off the court. Basketball in the euroleague host countries is big business and Ricky Rubio should stay where business is growing and not declining.

[Huey Freeman]

I never said Euroleague was boring. I don't hate Euroleague. But you hate NBA, clearly.

Maybe if/when a Club World Championship starts we could compare the two better.

lol

MLB isn't cutting back. At least the Yankees aren't, haven't you seen their free agent offseason so far?

[b.jerk]

I never said Euroleague was boring. I don't hate Euroleague. But you hate NBA, clearly.

Maybe if/when a Club World Championship starts we could compare the two better.

lol

MLB isn't cutting back. At least the Yankees aren't, haven't you seen their free agent offseason so far?

Yankees are the exception but the majority of professional teams are cutting back.

I don't hate the nba. I'm not interested in it, I don't follow it and what I do watch is too processed to enjoy. If the league had more of a "laissez faire" attitude I would watch but with David Stern that isn't going to happen.

You can tell the nba is struggling by the way their figures are behaving.

[la bomba]

Yankees are the exception but the majority of professional teams are cutting back.

I don't hate the nba. I'm not interested in it, I don't follow it and what I do watch is too processed to enjoy. If the league had more of a "laissez faire" attitude I would watch but with David Stern that isn't going to happen.

You can tell the nba is struggling by the way their figures are behaving.
I am with you on this one bjerk but unfortunately the euroleague is going the way of the nba with bertomeu being a bit like stern.He wants to close the competition, perhaps not as much as the nba.I think Bertomeu has done a great job but now he is spoiling it. I dont hate the nba either but I do find it a bit unitnteresting, teams like memphis are the worst example of the nba, the players play for themselves and are interested in their own numbers only ,they know the team will lose and they dont mind provided they get their numbers.I feel sorry for Marc Gasol but at the same time think he deserves it for going there.He could have been playing for barca winning games and standing a chance at various trophies.surely a sportsman wants to win and needs the thrill of competition,Marc has opted for the money and fame in the NBA.

[b.jerk]

I want to be fair to David Stern. David Stern has accomplished good things, he saved the nba, he made people a lot of money, and he treated his players and was fairer to his players than his predecessors. But the last decade has tarnished David Stern's legacy and the difference between David Stern and Jean Bertomeu is David Stern is being allowed to run the nba into the ground. If I were an owner I would give someone else a chance that won't over litigate the nba and will add an artistic charm into the nba. One example is the nba doesn't contrast today's stars with yesterday's stars. If I were nike I run a campaign with Kobe Bryant and Lebron James saying they're not michael jordan. They are they're own person and play the game their way.

Back to the ACB, it's a joke that the San Antonio Spurs are held to a limit to sign Tiago Splitter. Tiago Splitter is one of the best centers in the world and the nba needs him.

[la bomba]

I want to be fair to David Stern. David Stern has accomplished good things, he saved the nba, he made people a lot of money, and he treated his players and was fairer to his players than his predecessors. But the last decade has tarnished David Stern's legacy and the difference between David Stern and Jean Bertomeu is David Stern is being allowed to run the nba into the ground. If I were an owner I would give someone else a chance that won't over litigate the nba and will add an artistic charm into the nba. One example is the nba doesn't contrast today's stars with yesterday's stars. If I were nike I run a campaign with Kobe Bryant and Lebron James saying they're not michael jordan. They are they're own person and play the game their way.

Back to the ACB, it's a joke that the San Antonio Spurs are held to a limit to sign Tiago Splitter. Tiago Splitter is one of the best centers in the world and the nba needs him.
i dont think spliter will do as well as scola has. give credit to TAU they hold on to them and the players are happy to stay there, so they must be doing things right.
As for jordi bertomeu v stern. bertomeu's job is harder he has to deal with different nations with different leagues and different expectations.Stern did well because he was also lucky to coincide with the jordan,magic,bird,thomas generation.

[b.jerk]

It wasn't like David Stern's predecessor didn't have stars like Kareem Abdul-Jabar, Wilt Chamberlain, Julius Erving, and Bernard King. The nba wouldn't be around today if it weren't for David Stern but the guy stayed to long. The nba isn't in crisis today but the league is lean and are one or two bad times away from being in crisis. Europe suffering, Bertomeau two favorite markets, France and Germany have declined but other market are in good shape. The problem in the euroleague is teams always tried to build from the outside-in and not the inside-out

[la bomba]

It wasn't like David Stern's predecessor didn't have stars like Kareem Abdul-Jabar, Wilt Chamberlain, Julius Erving, and Bernard King. The nba wouldn't be around today if it weren't for David Stern but the guy stayed to long. The nba isn't in crisis today but the league is lean and are one or two bad times away from being in crisis. Europe suffering, Bertomeau two favorite markets, France and Germany have declined but other market are in good shape. The problem in the euroleague is teams always tried to build from the outside-in and not the inside-out
Not all of them. madrid have sergi llull.barca have produced sada,navarro,Grimau,recruited Trias,Vazquez, and other spanish players. DKV produce rudy,Ricky,Pau ribas,Pere Tomas, Franch,Norel etc etc. In Spain they still produce players at club level.The countries that don't are just not basketball countries like france and germany.Enough with having 2 french teams is what I say.

[la bomba]

barca won the derbi and almost confirmed 2nd place,madrid with defeat are down to 4th.I think the final could very well be another great best of 5 tie between barca and tau,this time with TAU having homecourt.

[Huey Freeman]

Basketball in the euroleague host countries is big business and Ricky Rubio should stay where business is growing and not declining.
Well, Ricky Rubio is going to the NBA Draft.

[la bomba]

Well, Ricky Rubio is going to the NBA Draft.
He is making a huge mistake. He might be drafted and not go this year.Joventud are not going to let him go unless he pays his clause.Ricky should go to a big european club for a few years and then if he wants to go to the NBA then go.

[berraco]

there are two big issues with ricky entering the draft:
- the money, since his clause is huge with respect to the salary he would earn in the NBA, even being a top 3. He could be paying Joventut for years!! Not to mention if he falls from the top 3.
- the teams that could pick him. Out of the 6 teams with more chances to be in the top 3 of the draft, only Sacramento and Minny are for me a good place to go for him to develop as the rising star he is, since all the other teams already have a reasonably good PG or a black hole (Arenas) to handle the ball. Obviously, the draft night trades could play a big role on the final result, but we can not guess now.

[la bomba]

there are two big issues with ricky entering the draft:
- the money, since his clause is huge with respect to the salary he would earn in the NBA, even being a top 3. He could be paying Joventut for years!! Not to mention if he falls from the top 3.
- the teams that could pick him. Out of the 6 teams with more chances to be in the top 3 of the draft, only Sacramento and Minny are for me a good place to go for him to develop as the rising star he is, since all the other teams already have a reasonably good PG or a black hole (Arenas) to handle the ball. Obviously, the draft night trades could play a big role on the final result, but we can not guess now.
I agree. my way of seeing it is that he is only 18,he needs to develop more,I know that he is a special type of 18 yr old as he has had more experience than most 18 yr olds.still he needs to improve.now is he going to get better going to the nba or playing in europe ? I think he should stay until he is 20 or 21.I also think he should go to barca or cska olympiakos or pana for a couple of years first.

[berraco]

I agree. my way of seeing it is that he is only 18,he needs to develop more,I know that he is a special type of 18 yr old as he has had more experience than most 18 yr olds.still he needs to improve.now is he going to get better going to the nba or playing in europe ? I think he should stay until he is 20 or 21.I also think he should go to barca or cska olympiakos or pana for a couple of years first.
Well, probably you're right, but I think this guy can play good bball right now in the NBA and can develop into a star there as good as he can do it here in Europe. Of course, being more mature could help to make an instantaneous impact in the US, but it could also make him a type of player unable to shine there, like it happened to Jasikevicius. I know Jase was much older by that time, but Ricky is playing pro here so many seasons that it could not work for him also. :confusedshrug:

[Grinder]

My predictions:
Tau d. Bilbao
Real d. Joventut
Barcelona d. Valencia
Unicaja d. Gran Canaria

Real d. Tau - Reyes and Splitter should be a great match up with Felipe once again showing that he's the best big man in the ACB
Barcelona d. Unicaja

Real d. Barcelona

[la bomba]

My predictions:
Tau d. Bilbao
Real d. Joventut
Barcelona d. Valencia
Unicaja d. Gran Canaria

Real d. Tau - Reyes and Splitter should be a great match up with Felipe once again showing that he's the best big man in the ACB
Barcelona d. Unicaja

Real d. Barcelona
hahaha grinder you are too partizan!! almost as much as I am with barca.I say Barca Tau and anything can happen.it will be hard for barca to do them again after the euroleague but why not?Madrid will struggle against joventut

[Lakas Fan Yo]

Well, probably you're right, but I think this guy can play good bball right now in the NBA and can develop into a star there as good as he can do it here in Europe. Of course, being more mature could help to make an instantaneous impact in the US, but it could also make him a type of player unable to shine there, like it happened to Jasikevicius. I know Jase was much older by that time, but Ricky is playing pro here so many seasons that it could not work for him also. :confusedshrug:

He is leaving 2 years too early.

[Lakas Fan Yo]

My predictions:
Tau d. Bilbao
Real d. Joventut
Barcelona d. Valencia
Unicaja d. Gran Canaria

Real d. Tau - Reyes and Splitter should be a great match up with Felipe once again showing that he's the best big man in the ACB
Barcelona d. Unicaja

Real d. Barcelona

I think it will be TAU-Barca in the final and TAU should have the win this time because they have home court. But still it's about a 50/50 series.

[la bomba]

Tonight is the draft for the nba.Is Victor claver not the most overrated young player in spain?? He is a very ordinary player,yet he is in the draft?delusions of grandeur on his part I think.

[berraco]

Tonight is the draft for the nba.Is Victor claver not the most overrated young player in spain?? He is a very ordinary player,yet he is in the draft?delusions of grandeur on his part I think.
I was really high on him a couple of years ago. But the latest seasons have been disappointing. maybe due to bad coaching, but he looks now much worse than he did. Just this afternoon I commented to a friend that he would end up undrafted if he does not withdraw his name.

[Grinder]

Tonight is the draft for the nba.Is Victor claver not the most overrated young player in spain?? He is a very ordinary player,yet he is in the draft?delusions of grandeur on his part I think.

The draft isn't today, today is just the draft lottery. The draft will be held towards the end of June.

[b.jerk]

I really don't get the excitement of playing in the nba. A few major markets are viable but the interest isn't there for the majority of the franchises to compete financially. Eventually teams spending money they don't have will cause a crisis.

[la bomba]

The draft isn't today, today is just the draft lottery. The draft will be held towards the end of June.
you are right I apologise, as for victor claver berraco is right.when he first appeared he looked really good but last season and this season he has been very normal.I think pau ribas of joventut is a much better player albeit a different type of player.

[la bomba]

I really don't get the excitement of playing in the nba. A few major markets are viable but the interest isn't there for the majority of the franchises to compete financially. Eventually teams spending money they don't have will cause a crisis.
You know that when it comes to this subject I am with you 100%. I don't see how a player who could be playing in europe competing against great teams and fighting for atleast 3 competitions could be excited to go play for the clippers!! If I was ricky for example I would rather sign for barca,pana,cska etc that would be more exciting.

[b.jerk]

You know that when it comes to this subject I am with you 100%. I don't see how a player who could be playing in europe competing against great teams and fighting for atleast 3 competitions could be excited to go play for the clippers!! If I was ricky for example I would rather sign for barca,pana,cska etc that would be more exciting.

I like Blake Griffin, I thinks he's more than a copy of another prospect. The guys that are good are more than the next _____ . But what do you say to the guy, congratulations you're the best prospect for the nba, now go play for Donald Sterling. If you read the deadspin piece Sterling's the worst of both character and organization. Someone like a Blake Griffin would want to work in a place like that?

Portland got the better half of the DKV Joventut dual of Ricky Rubio and Rudy Fernandez. Which I personally think Rudy Fernandez signing with the Portland Trailblazers will be remembered as a cautionary tale. Portland has allowed itself to be hit harder in the current recession and Paul Allen is having his own difficulties.

For some reason the nba prefers those that peak when they're young than the guy that gradually improves. I'm not that high on Ricky Rubio.

[Lakas Fan Yo]

I really don't get the excitement of playing in the nba. A few major markets are viable but the interest isn't there for the majority of the franchises to compete financially. Eventually teams spending money they don't have will cause a crisis.


Because some players believe the NBA hype and marketing machine. It's not really based in reality at all, but that's why the NBA spends billions in marketing.

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I like Blake Griffin, I thinks he's more than a copy of another prospect. The guys that are good are more than the next _____ . But what do you say to the guy, congratulations you're the best prospect for the nba, now go play for Donald Sterling. If you read the deadspin piece Sterling's the worst of both character and organization. Someone like a Blake Griffin would want to work in a place like that?

Portland got the better half of the DKV Joventut dual of Ricky Rubio and Rudy Fernandez. Which I personally think Rudy Fernandez signing with the Portland Trailblazers will be remembered as a cautionary tale. Portland has allowed itself to be hit harder in the current recession and Paul Allen is having his own difficulties.

For some reason the nba prefers those that peak when they're young than the guy that gradually improves. I'm not that high on Ricky Rubio.
I think Ricky will be great,he is only 18 lets not forget.However I think he needs to stay in Europe in a great european side for atleast 3 or 4 years.

[Lu]

I think Ricky will be great,he is only 18 lets not forget.However I think he needs to stay in Europe in a great european side for atleast 3 or 4 years.

I take the decision of being elegible draft player and, for sure, he will be selected. I think he needs to improve his shooting ability and his physical capacity to be an effective player in NBA.

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I still have a feeling that he wont go this year.

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unicaja up in the 3rd when barca had upto 11 points in the 1st half.barca are awful,Navarro can't score.Xavi Pascual is not a coach for barca.you can't have a team of this budjet with this coach!

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like in so many important games Navarro is being ****! loads of turnovers and only 2 field goals made in the entire game. Anderson and Ilyasova missing easy shots from close range because they are scared of ndong! a lot of money but no cojones.

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unicaja ran out of gas.If barca don't improve , especially Ilyasova! TAU will destroy them.

[vittor14]

BAR

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2 1 great game from barca. Ilyasova and the incombustible Basile! How great Gianluca Basile is! anyway great chance for barca to win it at home.TAU have players with niggling injuries,Splitter as usual is out at sea when he is facing big defenders and big matches,I really think Splitter is good but not great,nowhere near what Scola was for TAU.