View Full Version : Believe the hype on Greg Oden
oldenpolynice
10-09-2008, 02:52 PM
People talk about fatigue. But Oden played very well in back-to-back games on Tues and Wed. Averaging 13.5 points and 7 rebounds in 20 minutes of play. The fouls are a concern. But dude is a beast inside. And his touch looked nice on the free throw attempts as well.
Haters can argue all they like, but really they should just be jumping on the Blazers bandwagon.
The 2008 Blazers are like Season 1 of The Sopranos. No one’s ever seen a show (or in this case, a team) quite like this before. The cast is strong, the storylines are gripping and the directors/producers know what the hell they’re doing. Everything is primed for a great run. And if you don’t buy in now you’ll be left looking like one of “those guys” at the party saying, “Oh yeah, the Sopranos. I’ve heard that’s a great show”.
http://davissportsdeli.com/wordpress/greg-oden-watch-2008/
Meticode
10-09-2008, 02:57 PM
This guy is going to be a force for years to come.
If he can stay healthy...sure. 1 year at Ohio State, wrist injury...before the pre-season even started knee injury...
...and his weight doesn't help the matter, he's bigger than he was a year ago, especially in the upper body, which in-turn means more pressure on his knees.
mlh1981
10-09-2008, 03:06 PM
Take it a day at a time. Everyone is fresh and healthy at this point of the preseason. Lets see how he looks on a 5 games/5 nights east coast swing in February.
I'm an Ohio State fan and not a "hater," but he is still a project in the making. This will take some time to unfold. Wish him the best of luck, though.
RoseCity07
10-09-2008, 03:08 PM
If he can stay healthy...sure. 1 year at Ohio State, wrist injury...before the pre-season even started knee injury...
...and his weight doesn't help the matter, he's bigger than he was a year ago, especially in the upper body, which in-turn means more pressure on his knees.
Roy had heal problems, and multiple knee surgerys. He's an All Star now.
Aldridge came into the league coming off the bench and had shoulder surgery. He has also had some foot injuries. He's going to be an All Star.
Oden has spent the last year working out and strengthening his knee. His was as perfect as a recovery can go for microfracture. Even more successful than Amare Stoudamire and we know how that turned out. Oden will be an All Star in a couple of years.
Injuries happen. I wouldn't worry about Oden in this case. The guy hates losing and his will to win and do anything it takes to win for his team. He will fight through injuries.
brandonislegend
10-09-2008, 03:14 PM
Roy had heal problems, and multiple knee surgerys. He's an All Star now.
Aldridge came into the league coming off the bench and had shoulder surgery. He has also had some foot injuries. He's going to be an All Star.
Oden has spent the last year working out and strengthening his knee. His was as perfect as a recovery can go for microfracture. Even more successful than Amare Stoudamire and we know how that turned out. Oden will be an All Star in a couple of years.
Injuries happen. I wouldn't worry about Oden in this case. The guy hates losing and his will to win and do anything it takes to win for his team. He will fight through injuries.
? who cares about that, everyone is different some people just cant avoid injuries and greg oden has had an injurey every year of his young career, high school, college, and pre-nba.
not saying hes gonna get injured though
oldenpolynice
10-09-2008, 03:27 PM
If he can stay healthy...sure. 1 year at Ohio State, wrist injury...before the pre-season even started knee injury...
...and his weight doesn't help the matter, he's bigger than he was a year ago, especially in the upper body, which in-turn means more pressure on his knees.
His weight is my only concern. But this is the NBA we're talking about here. If it's in the franchise's best interest to keep Oden's weight stabilized, they will stabilize Oden's weight.
This guy is a cash cow. He's like Kobe in L.A. or Allen Iverson when he was in Philly. The Blazers won't jeapordize that. They'll get the best nutritionists and trainers available.
Take it a day at a time. Everyone is fresh and healthy at this point of the preseason. Lets see how he looks on a 5 games/5 nights east coast swing in February.
I'm an Ohio State fan and not a "hater," but he is still a project in the making. This will take some time to unfold. Wish him the best of luck, though.exactly wait until he hits the rookie wall and see how he plays the second half of the season, when travel and wear and tear take it's toll..they guy hasn't played in over a year and people are touting 20 minutes a game as some kinda milestone...lol
statman32
10-09-2008, 04:56 PM
Oden has spent the last year working out and strengthening his knee. His was as perfect as a recovery can go for microfracture. Even more successful than Amare Stoudamire and we know how that turned out. Oden will be an All Star in a couple of years.
Injuries happen. I wouldn't worry about Oden in this case. The guy hates losing and his will to win and do anything it takes to win for his team. He will fight through injuries.
His recovery isnt over kid and his recovery hasnt been more successful than Amare because he hasnt proven **** yet. He hasnt proven he could have no complications because of the surgury. Get back at me in 2 years if he has stayed realtively healthy. Then we can talk. Lets not forget that Amare only missed a year just like Oden.
Kiddlovesnets
10-09-2008, 05:01 PM
Oden is by far the most promising young big man in this league but I'd say I will be surprised if he turns out to be half as good as Prime Tim Duncan in the end.
statman32
10-09-2008, 05:03 PM
Oden is by far the most promising young big man in this league but I'd say I will be surprised if he turns out to be half as good as Prime Tim Duncan in the end.
Half as good as a prime Tim Duncan? :roll:
What would you consider half as good? 14/7 starting on a playoff team? :lol
RoseCity07
10-09-2008, 05:05 PM
His recovery isnt over kid and his recovery hasnt been more successful than Amare because he hasnt proven **** yet. He hasnt proven he could have no complications because of the surgury. Get back at me in 2 years if he has stayed realtively healthy. Then we can talk. Lets not forget that Amare only missed a year just like Oden.
I meant that in the way that Amare came back early and had complications. Oden hasn't had any swelling or stiffness at all (so far).
statman32
10-09-2008, 05:08 PM
I meant that in the way that Amare came back early and had complications. Oden hasn't had any swelling or stiffness at all (so far).
Well I wouldnt call it a win yet. Hell I still worry about Amares knees and hes stayed somewhat healthy for the last 2 years. Then you have the belief that a player might need the surgery again after 4-5 years of playing. It sucks. Lets just hope that it works out for both of them.
BlazersDozen
10-09-2008, 06:27 PM
Take it a day at a time. Everyone is fresh and healthy at this point of the preseason. Lets see how he looks on a 5 games/5 nights east coast swing in February.
I'm an Ohio State fan and not a "hater," but he is still a project in the making. This will take some time to unfold. Wish him the best of luck, though.
5 games in 5 nights?
Pretty sure that has never happened in the history of the NBA.
Oden's offense is still a big concern for me but hey I'm not arguing with getting all your points off dunks and free throws.
Geandily
10-09-2008, 06:29 PM
Yeah, what about 100 GAMES IN A ROW?!?!
TBurge-UNL
10-09-2008, 07:05 PM
why don't we wait to see what greg oden does in the regular season before declaring him the next great center. he's definitely got the potential to be up there, but he also has factors working against him, such as injuries, foul trouble, and the blazers being too cautious with him.
oldenpolynice
10-09-2008, 07:21 PM
why don't we wait to see what greg oden does in the regular season before declaring him the next great center. he's definitely got the potential to be up there, but he also has factors working against him, such as injuries, foul trouble, and the blazers being too cautious with him.
I have a better idea. Let's not wait to declare him a great talent. Let's just sit back and enjoy him while he rolls over 80% of the Western conference big men and intimidates the hell out of everyone.
TBurge-UNL
10-09-2008, 07:21 PM
I have a better idea. Let's not wait to declare him a great talent. Let's just sit back and enjoy him while he rolls over 80% of the Western conference big men and intimidates the hell out of everyone.
well if it happens, i'll definitely enjoy it. :cheers:
Mikaiel
10-09-2008, 07:25 PM
5 games in 5 nights?
I think he meant 4 games in 5 nights.
And why can't everyone wait to actually see the guy play a couple of months in the regular season before judging him ? Sometimes I feel the Oden hype is even bigger than the LeBron one a few years ago ...
bomber
10-09-2008, 09:07 PM
I think he meant 4 games in 5 nights.
And why can't everyone wait to actually see the guy play a couple of months in the regular season before judging him ? Sometimes I feel the Oden hype is even bigger than the LeBron one a few years ago ...
I disagree. I think he was really hyped and that the injury made it more suspensful etc.
Lebron was the saviour of the league in HS.
He's going to be special, however I'd like to see him drop about 15lbs.
TBurge-UNL
10-09-2008, 09:13 PM
the real question is, would greg oden be as popular if he was a laker and would andrew bynum be more popular as a blazer...?
steve
10-09-2008, 09:47 PM
the real question is, would greg oden be as popular if he was a laker and would andrew bynum be more popular as a blazer...?
Well, I think Oden would be hyped no matter where he was (although being with the Blazers has the added bonus of potentially making them a great team) whereas the level of hype surrounding Bynum would be greatly decreased if he was playing for say, New Jersey or Memphis.
RoseCity07
10-09-2008, 10:33 PM
Well I wouldnt call it a win yet. Hell I still worry about Amares knees and hes stayed somewhat healthy for the last 2 years. Then you have the belief that a player might need the surgery again after 4-5 years of playing. It sucks. Lets just hope that it works out for both of them.
I heard you can't do the surgery twice. Seems like it's not true but Amare would just get his knee retouched, not the full microfracture on the same knee. Yeah, I guarantee Amare has worked on making his knee strong so it won't get injured again.
Godfather
10-09-2008, 10:36 PM
I heard you can't do the surgery twice. Seems like it's not true but Amare would just get his knee retouched, not the full microfracture on the same knee. Yeah, I guarantee Amare has worked on making his knee strong so it won't get injured again.
I lol'd
Kobe24
10-09-2008, 10:40 PM
I have a better idea. Let's not wait to declare him a great talent. Let's just sit back and enjoy him while he rolls over 80% of the Western conference big men and intimidates the hell out of everyone.
or how about you type your excuses in advance for when he does fail?
bleedinpurpleTwo
10-09-2008, 10:42 PM
1st-Grader I saw on Youtube > Beasley > Lebron
3stat2
10-09-2008, 11:29 PM
Personally I think he should lose a bit of weight. I haven't watched him as intently as Blazers fans so I may have missed some things, but to me it seems like he isn't jumping quite as high as before. Seems a little slow and less agile as well. But the scary thing is that despite all that, he's still looked pretty good.
If he lost some weight and got his vert back to the 34 inches it was before, he'd be scary. He doesn't need all that muscle - seriously, who is going to overpower him? I want to see him get his vert back to this kind of level:
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2130/odenjammd9.jpg
Think a bigger, stronger, but slower and less agile version of pre-surgery Amare.
oldenpolynice
10-09-2008, 11:43 PM
or how about you type your excuses in advance for when he does fail?
How about you start writing your concession for when Oden wins Rookie of the Year. Or maybe you'll just stay off the boards that day...
BlazersDozen
10-10-2008, 12:41 AM
Why is everybody against Oden?
LeBron was more hyped when he was in his Junior year of high school along with Sebastian Telfair. I guess nobody around here read Slam back then.
oldenpolynice
10-10-2008, 01:09 AM
Why is everybody against Oden?
LeBron was more hyped when he was in his Junior year of high school along with Sebastian Telfair. I guess nobody around here read Slam back then.
Mostly because of Bynum, I think. Great centers come around so rarely and to have two of them emerge in the same season is kind of polarizing. Instead of liking both, most fans are picking sides. If Oden came into the NBA two years ago, he would probably have more supporters.
JayGuevara
10-10-2008, 01:20 AM
Mostly because of Bynum, I think. Great centers come around so rarely and to have two of them emerge in the same season is kind of polarizing. Instead of liking both, most fans are picking sides. If Oden came into the NBA two years ago, he would probably have more supporters.
Two great centers emerged in the same season? Who?
I saw one recently, Dwight Howard.
Gave Bynum and Oden combined even played one full seasons worth of games?
don't need to wait a while when some things are straight up obvious. this discussion is almost a no brainer.
oden's going to be a beast.
if you still don't see it, you're just slow.
oldenpolynice
10-10-2008, 01:32 AM
Two great centers emerged in the same season? Who?
I saw one recently, Dwight Howard.
Gave Bynum and Oden combined even played one full seasons worth of games?
I guess skepticism is healthy. But you seriously don't believe Oden and Bynum will be great centers?
JayGuevara
10-10-2008, 01:36 AM
I guess skepticism is healthy. But you seriously don't believe Oden and Bynum will be great centers?
They have potential. And at the time they were drafted, so did Kwame and Darko. But as of this moment, they're not great centers.
It's like with OJ or any trial. Innocent until proven guilty, regardless of what you may think. And without sufficient evidence, cases get thrown out.
oldenpolynice
10-10-2008, 01:44 AM
They have potential. And at the time they were drafted, so did Kwame and Darko. But as of this moment, they're not great centers.
It's like with OJ or any trial. Innocent until proven guilty, regardless of what you may think. And without sufficient evidence, cases get thrown out.
You're comparing Bynum and Oden to Kwame and Darko? Pretty ridiculous...
Bynum clearly recognized his potential last season before getting injured and Oden has already proved he is solid in all parts of the big man game. Kwame and Darko were high-risk potential picks who never panned out. No comparison here.
Sharas
10-10-2008, 04:57 AM
Personally I think he should lose a bit of weight. I haven't watched him as intently as Blazers fans so I may have missed some things, but to me it seems like he isn't jumping quite as high as before. Seems a little slow and less agile as well. But the scary thing is that despite all that, he's still looked pretty good.
If he lost some weight and got his vert back to the 34 inches it was before, he'd be scary. He doesn't need all that muscle - seriously, who is going to overpower him? I want to see him get his vert back to this kind of level:
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2130/odenjammd9.jpg
Think a bigger, stronger, but slower and less agile version of pre-surgery Amare.
even his teammate (i think it's david lighty?) is like WTF, is he going to really throw THAT down?
Da KO King
10-10-2008, 07:03 PM
even his teammate (i think it's david lighty?) is like WTF, is he going to really throw THAT down?
And he didn't and probably would have been called for a charge in the NBA in the process
G-train
10-10-2008, 07:18 PM
And he didn't and probably would have been called for a charge in the NBA in the process
You're right it did miss, but it is a glimpse of his extreme athleticism for a 7 footer.
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2130/odenjammd9.jpg
is that leon powe hes charging on?
G-train
10-10-2008, 07:43 PM
I'm pretty sure if he got a charge on a one off play like this, the coach wouldn't give a crap
Da KO King
10-10-2008, 07:57 PM
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2130/odenjammd9.jpg
is that leon powe hes charging on?
No, that's Seattle second year guy Jeff Green.
I just hope for Oden's sake that Portland's fans and front office really don't expect him to hit the ground running because Oden is going to struggle a bit early on.
Good Old Willy
10-10-2008, 09:22 PM
... don't expect him to hit the ground running because Oden is going to struggle a bit early on.
On the other hand, how many rookie get to:
- have access to the staff and coaching of an NBA team for an entire year prior to game 1
- have an extra 3 months of practise with NBA level teammates
- have a year's access to NBA level game tapes, team philosophy, travel, etc.
Oden has to be the most ready rook to enter then league in years... Dude should be light years ahead of the other rooks. I expect it.
RoseCity07
10-10-2008, 09:43 PM
It sucks they are pulling Oden at 20 minutes in pre season. His is owning Horford right now and Roy is owing Joe Johnson yet again. As I'm listening Oden gets an and 1.
LOL, they just took Oden out and now Horford got his first basket on the play after.
P-town1114
10-10-2008, 09:46 PM
It sucks they are pulling Oden at 20 minutes in pre season. His is owning Horford right now and Roy is owing Joe Johnson yet again. As I'm listening Oden gets an and 1.
LOL, they just took Oden out and now Horford got his first basket on the play after.
They should stop Babying him and let him do his thing.
RoseCity07
10-10-2008, 09:54 PM
They should stop Babying him and let him do his thing.
If he doesn't start playing 25-30 minutes now, he isn't going to get in shape fast enough. I guess they mean it when they say they want to ease him back in to playing. The Blazers are just killing Atlanta while all the starters are on the bench. If the Blazers lose this game I don't care, it's just a warm up game.
HeyIt'sMe
10-10-2008, 09:59 PM
It sucks they are pulling Oden at 20 minutes in pre season. His is owning Horford right now and Roy is owing Joe Johnson yet again. As I'm listening Oden gets an and 1.
LOL, they just took Oden out and now Horford got his first basket on the play after.
I'd hope he'd dominate Horford. He has about 4 inches and 70 pounds on him.
Kiddlovesnets
10-10-2008, 10:18 PM
Al Hordord ---- 6pts, 6reb and shot 3-8 from the field
Greg Oden ---- 11pts, 5reb and shot 5-6 from the field
I'd say Oden has outplayed Al Horford in today's game and if given more than 30 minutes he'd have completely owned the poor Atlanta Center...(which requires Oden to learn how to reduce the PFs he receives while trying to block)
HeyIt'sMe
10-10-2008, 10:20 PM
Al Hordord ---- 6pts, 6reb and shot 3-8 from the field
Greg Oden ---- 11pts, 5reb and shot 5-6 from the field
I'd say Oden has outplayed Al Horford in today's game and if given more than 30 minutes he'd have completely owned the poor Atlanta Center...
Read above. Horford isn't a Center and it's a disservice that Atlanta keeps playing him there.
RoseCity07
10-10-2008, 10:39 PM
Al Hordord ---- 6pts, 6reb and shot 3-8 from the field
Greg Oden ---- 11pts, 5reb and shot 5-6 from the field
I'd say Oden has outplayed Al Horford in today's game and if given more than 30 minutes he'd have completely owned the poor Atlanta Center...(which requires Oden to learn how to reduce the PFs he receives while trying to block)
All 6 points were scored after Oden went out. He was 0-4 when Oden went out.
Oden owns Al Horford. He isn't even close to being in top shape either.
T-Low
10-10-2008, 10:42 PM
Horford is to undersized to be playing the Center. They need someone who can actually play that spot correctly....
shawbryant
10-10-2008, 11:11 PM
His actions in season will make the haters shut up,I do believe.
fiad06
10-11-2008, 03:03 AM
All 6 points were scored after Oden went out. He was 0-4 when Oden went out.
Oden owns Al Horford. He isn't even close to being in top shape either.
Oh comeon now, Oden owns Horford because of a meaningless preseason game?
plowking
10-11-2008, 03:11 AM
Oh comeon now, Oden owns Horford because of a meaningless preseason game?
That's how it works around here.
oldenpolynice
10-13-2008, 01:57 AM
His actions in season will make the haters shut up,I do believe.
I'm right there with you. The haters are many (not exactly sure why) but Oden will shut all of them up when he hoists that R.O.Y. trophy.
I'm right there with you. The haters are many (not exactly sure why) but Oden will shut all of them up when he hoists that R.O.Y. trophy.
I hope you are right, but I'd like to point out that hoisting the ROY trophy doesn't seem to stop haters. Durant still receives hate, and heck, even James still receives hate from certain crowds.
oldenpolynice
10-13-2008, 10:45 PM
I hope you are right, but I'd like to point out that hoisting the ROY trophy doesn't seem to stop haters. Durant still receives hate, and heck, even James still receives hate from certain crowds.
None of them should get hated on. LeBron will soon be the best player in the NBA and Durant & Oden will be right on his heels.
None of them should get hated on.
Agreed, but they do anyway, and thats what I was pointing out.
Broy#7
10-13-2008, 11:18 PM
durant will be a baller but he will never be on the top of the list of best players in the league. lebron is a monster though and is imo the best in the league now. kobe is AMAZING dont get wrong but lebron can take over a game like nobody else can
Jordan80
10-13-2008, 11:30 PM
i hope greg oden succeeds because he's a good kid. it's too bad that blazer fans don't want bynum to succeed just because he threatens their god of a center.
Jordan80
10-13-2008, 11:31 PM
durant will be a baller but he will never be on the top of the list of best players in the league. lebron is a monster though and is imo the best in the league now. kobe is AMAZING dont get wrong but lebron can take over a game like nobody else can
i agree that kobe bryant is not the best in the league anymore. he may be one of the smartest, but he's past his prime physically and it showed last season. however, my pick this year would be for D-Wade and not LeBron.
i hope greg oden succeeds because he's a good kid. it's too bad that blazer fans don't want bynum to succeed just because he threatens their god of a center.
I'm cool with Bynum succeeding, I just don't want the Lakers to. :D
G-train
10-14-2008, 12:08 AM
IMO Bynum just isnt as likeable as Oden.
His expressions on court are annoying. His play, though effective, is not exactly pretty or powerful.
Where as Oden just glues you to the screen.
Both will be great players though obviously
oldenpolynice
10-14-2008, 02:31 AM
IMO Bynum just isnt as likeable as Oden.
His expressions on court are annoying. His play, though effective, is not exactly pretty or powerful.
Where as Oden just glues you to the screen.
Both will be great players though obviously
It's true. Oden is just more interesting to watch. On the court and off. He's so explosive on the defensive end and on offense too. Plus he does funny off-court things like singing at the ESPYs and doing karoake. His blog is hilarious too.
brandonislegend
10-14-2008, 02:32 AM
It's true. Oden is just more interesting to watch. On the court and off. He's so explosive on the defensive end and on offense too. Plus he does funny off-court things like singing at the ESPYs and doing karoake. His blog is hilarious too.
that ****s annoying to me, reminds me of gil zero
oldenpolynice
10-14-2008, 02:40 AM
that ****s annoying to me, reminds me of gil zero
Yeah, but it's genuine at least. Oden is just being himself.
that ****s annoying to me, reminds me of gil zero
Reminds me more of Shaq.
allball
10-14-2008, 10:39 AM
Oden potentially is at least a top 10 center and with his ability on both ends of the floor, maybe even top 5.
oldenpolynice
10-14-2008, 11:54 AM
Oden potentially is at least a top 10 center and with his ability on both ends of the floor, maybe even top 5.
Do you mean this season? He's definitely Top 10 this season, that's not even a question. Being a Top 5 center right now is definitely something that is attainable for him. There aren't a whole lot of great centers in the league right now.
I love Oden's game, he's extremely physical, to the point someone is bound to get into a fight with him. I have yet to see him face up and try to put the ball on the floor, which is great, he's strictly back to the basket, jump hooks and post moves.
oldenpolynice
10-14-2008, 12:04 PM
I love Oden's game, he's extremely physical, to the point someone is bound to get into a fight with him. I have yet to see him face up and try to put the ball on the floor, which is great, he's strictly back to the basket, jump hooks and post moves.
I think other players are bound to get frustrated by him. But I don't see Oden ending up in a fight. He's kind of like LeBron during LeBron's rookie season. A great talent who hasn't developed enough attitude yet to get into a fight. At least that's how I see it.
glidedrxlr22
10-14-2008, 12:23 PM
IMO Bynum just isnt as likeable as Oden.
His expressions on court are annoying. His play, though effective, is not exactly pretty or powerful.
Where as Oden just glues you to the screen.
Both will be great players though obviously
I agree. When he doesn't get a call he complains as if he were a superstar! Shut up kid! Be more humble. You're good but damn, chill out.
Jordan80
10-14-2008, 12:47 PM
I'm cool with Bynum succeeding, I just don't want the Lakers to. :D
lol okay i respect that.
oldenpolynice
10-14-2008, 12:51 PM
I agree. When he doesn't get a call he complains as if he were a superstar! Shut up kid! Be more humble. You're good but damn, chill out.
He thinks he's Dwight Howard, but he didn't put in all those years in the NBA like Howard did before he reached "star" level. Bynum, put your time in and wait for your dues just like everybody else.
I agree. When he doesn't get a call he complains as if he were a superstar! Shut up kid! Be more humble. You're good but damn, chill out.
x2.... he definitely has some ego problem. learned it from the best apparently
Jordan80
10-14-2008, 01:04 PM
honestly the last 2 posts are ridiculous. but hey, there are always anti laker trolls.
lol okay i respect that.
:cheers:
allball
10-14-2008, 05:04 PM
Do you mean this season? He's definitely Top 10 this season, that's not even a question. Being a Top 5 center right now is definitely something that is attainable for him. There aren't a whole lot of great centers in the league right now.
I meant all time.
oldenpolynice
10-14-2008, 10:03 PM
I meant all time.
Wow. I don't know about that. Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem, Russell. I like Oden and all. But his potential isn't THAT high at this point.
allball
10-14-2008, 11:28 PM
Wow. I don't know about that. Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem, Russell. I like Oden and all. But his potential isn't THAT high at this point.
I disagree. Oden has the potential to dominate every aspect of the post. he can play both ends, has good lateral movement and reaction. his offensive post game is already blossoming and his defense will be legendary if he stays healthy. he's only 20 years old and his game is well beyond his years. he's a complete center and if he reaches his potential he could handle any of those guys in his/their prime.
oldenpolynice
10-15-2008, 12:04 PM
I'm stoked. I get to see Oden in person on Monday when he comes to Arco. Hope he gets at least his standard 20 minutes (if not more).
I might get tix to see the trailblazers playing the clippers next weds...
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