View Full Version : Sac/LAL fans: Y'all see Kobe get dropped by Udrih?
Kobe24
10-12-2008, 09:51 PM
Disgusting spin move and Kobe fell on his ass and Udrih sank the jumper while Kobe was watching from the floor. Damn!
worldbefree
10-12-2008, 09:51 PM
Disgusting spin move and Kobe fell on his ass and Udrih sank the jumper while Kobe was watching from the floor. Damn!
reps for vid.
Maniak
10-12-2008, 09:51 PM
:violin:
Kobe24
10-12-2008, 09:52 PM
It was the nastiest I've ever seen Kobe get dropped.
poeticism707
10-12-2008, 09:54 PM
WHY DIDN'T THE SPURS PLAY UDRIH?!?
I've been saying that for years...
right behind why didn't the Spurs make Stephen Jackson a better offer.
Udrih is gonna have a big year for the Kings. and dude has always lit up the Lakers
Maniak
10-12-2008, 09:56 PM
Yep, Udrih looks good this year, something good(alongside Martin) for the fans in Sac Town to look forward to watching this season
Jordan80
10-12-2008, 09:59 PM
why the hell am i not getting preseason games when i have nba league pass... anyone know a channel on the web i can watch at?
Maniak
10-12-2008, 10:01 PM
why the hell am i not getting preseason games when i have nba league pass... anyone know a channel on the web i can watch at?
try justin.tv or channelsurfing.net
StroShow4
10-12-2008, 10:01 PM
why the hell am i not getting preseason games when i have nba league pass... anyone know a channel on the web i can watch at?
as far as i know NBALP doesnt include the preseason.
Jordan80
10-12-2008, 10:02 PM
try justin.tv or channelsurfing.net
thx bro this is awesome
worldbefree
10-12-2008, 10:03 PM
as far as i know NBALP doesnt include the preseason.
This is correct.
Jordan80
10-12-2008, 10:03 PM
man i feel pathetic... im watching the laker game on a 5 inch screen lmao... o well, **** yes.
cplusplus22
10-12-2008, 10:03 PM
Udrih is gonna have a big year for the Kings. and dude has always lit up the Lakers
udrih is on the spurs and no he is not goin to light up the lakers.
Maniak
10-12-2008, 10:07 PM
udrih is on the spurs and no he is not goin to light up the lakers.
Not anymore smart one
Beno Udrih (born July 5, 1982 in Celje, SR Slovenia, SFR Yugoslavia) is a Slovenian professional basketball player for the NBA's Sacramento Kings. He re-signed a five-year contract with the team in July 2008.
Jordan80
10-12-2008, 10:08 PM
does anyone know a way so i can watch the game on a bigger screen. this one is tiny.
You'll never see video of this. Laker/Kobe fans -- the only people who watch Laker preseason games -- will make sure that it doesn't ever hit youtube. Only when Kobe drops other people do we get treated to video uploaded 7 seconds after the fact. :oldlol:
Oden dominated the Kings.... Bynum cant even get a basket against them.
Disgusting spin move and Kobe fell on his ass and Udrih sank the jumper while Kobe was watching from the floor. Damn!
A spin move where? In the post? Or do you mean a dribble spin move? If it's the latter, that's crazy, since I can't imagine Kobe getting shook that badly by someone like Udrih on that sort of move. We need video stat! :D
bigkingsfan
10-12-2008, 10:15 PM
I'll youtube it later and gif it later. Have to record the live sequence when they replay the game.
I'll youtube it later and gif it later. Have to record the live sequence when they replay the game.
You're the man! :cheers:
Doranku
10-12-2008, 10:17 PM
Oden dominated the Kings.... Bynum cant even get a basket against them.
Can't wait till opening night when Bynum ****s on Oden and all the little Blazer frontrunners, or in your case Kobe/Laker haters, cry themselves to sleep.
'Twill be a grand night indeed. =D
JayGuevara
10-12-2008, 10:20 PM
Can't wait till opening night when Bynum ****s on Oden and all the little Blazer frontrunners, or in your case Kobe/Laker haters, cry themselves to sleep.
'Twill be a grand night indeed. =D
Because obviously one regular season game, especially a game when every team has the same record, will be the end all tell all be all story of Bynum vs Oden.
Doranku
10-12-2008, 10:24 PM
Because obviously one regular season game, especially a game when every team has the same record, will be the end all tell all be all story of Bynum vs Oden.
Can you read? I said I was looking forward to the Blazer frontrunners crying themselves to sleep the night of the game. What the hell does that have to do with the 'end all tell all be all story of Bynum vs Oden'?
Jordan80
10-12-2008, 10:42 PM
all you douche bags will be happy this year because kobe bryant's really beginning to show his age...
strifed169
10-12-2008, 10:50 PM
- kobe got his ankles broken
- kobe got dunked on
- kobe missed a dunk
*laughs and points at kobe ******gers*
all you douche bags will be happy this year because kobe bryant's really beginning to show his age...
How can you tell when the season hasn't even started yet?
i dont like phil's new look this year. looks more like a pedophile even more so than before.
bigkingsfan
10-12-2008, 10:57 PM
- kobe got his ankles broken
- kobe got dunked on
- kobe missed a dunk
*laughs and points at kobe ******gers*
Why don't you look at who STARTED the thread.
Jordan80
10-12-2008, 10:59 PM
How can you tell when the season hasn't even started yet?
he looks like he's lost another step. he can still get by his man but his explosion looks worse.
KRAYZIE
10-12-2008, 11:04 PM
man i feel pathetic... im watching the laker game on a 5 inch screen lmao... o well, **** yes.
You should be grateful of that 5 inch screen, some of us don't have the same luxury! It(Channelsurfing) just freezes up on me.:(
KINGK
10-12-2008, 11:35 PM
:oldlol: at all these Jordan groupies getting excited. These clowns are probably scared ****less of Kobe getting his 4th ring this year. ****ing clowns.:oldlol:
Samurai Swoosh
10-12-2008, 11:38 PM
Everyone gets shook ... it happens. Especially to the people willing to put in work and play defense. With that said, I'd still like to see the play. This thread is worthless without video.
KenneBell
10-12-2008, 11:43 PM
he looks like he's lost another step. he can still get by his man but his explosion looks worse.
:oldlol:
KINGK
10-12-2008, 11:56 PM
Jordan groupies.:oldlol:
Scott Pippen
10-12-2008, 11:57 PM
Jordan groupies.:oldlol:
look at the thread starter:applause:
Kobe24
10-12-2008, 11:58 PM
Man, y'all suck. Ruining threads.
Scott Pippen
10-12-2008, 11:59 PM
:oldlol:
it is true. He is a human. He lost slight step after 2003 offseason because knee injury. Then after I believe 2006 or 2007 he had another surgery? But he is at the top of mental prime now with good supporting cast. I do not think he is saying this to hate Kobe.
Showtime
10-13-2008, 12:03 AM
Beno used that spin move last year too. He's pretty underrated, and can get to the hoop and hit the J. I am looking forward to watching him if he can stay healthy. As for Kobe, everybody gets shook. MJ got shook by AI. I have video of Kobe being schooled by Doug Christie on VHS. He's not an infallible force. Nobody is.
KINGK
10-13-2008, 12:04 AM
look at the thread starter:applause:
The Jordan groupies are clearly the most excited. Clowns are probably obsessevely trying to find the video now.:oldlol: How utterly pathetic they are.
KRAYZIE
10-13-2008, 12:05 AM
Everyone gets shook ... it happens. Especially to the people willing to put in work and play defense. With that said, I'd still like to see the play. This thread is worthless without video.
I second that.
bigkingsfan
10-13-2008, 12:06 AM
Video is coming soon, replay is about to start and beno drops him at the 9 min mark in 1st quarter.
eliteballer
10-13-2008, 12:09 AM
Kobe looks fat:lol
KRAYZIE
10-13-2008, 12:15 AM
Kobe looks fat:lol
Uh-oh, now you're gonna get it.:lol
baseketball4life
10-13-2008, 12:18 AM
Uh-oh, now you're gonna get it.:lol
wow what a sick avy
JR Smith and Monta Ellis FTW!!!
KRAYZIE
10-13-2008, 12:21 AM
wow what a sick avy
JR Smith and Monta Ellis FTW!!!
Thanks man, I've had that for a while now.:cheers:
baseketball4life
10-13-2008, 12:22 AM
Thanks man, I've had that for a while now.:cheers:
do you know where i can get one like that with Monta and JR?
KenneBell
10-13-2008, 12:23 AM
it is true. He is a human. He lost slight step after 2003 offseason because knee injury. Then after I believe 2006 or 2007 he had another surgery? But he is at the top of mental prime now with good supporting cast. I do not think he is saying this to hate Kobe.
He hasn't lost another step between the '08 playoffs and now. That's ridiculous. Of course he's slower than he used to be but you can tell he's not going all out now. No one is.
I wouldn't judge much from some preseason games.
KRAYZIE
10-13-2008, 12:27 AM
do you know where i can get one like that with Monta and JR?
Yea, I'll PM you the instructions.
baseketball4life
10-13-2008, 12:30 AM
Yea, I'll PM you the instructions.
thanks man repped
KRAYZIE
10-13-2008, 12:41 AM
thanks man repped
No problemo.:cheers:
bigkingsfan
10-13-2008, 12:44 AM
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
Beebo
10-13-2008, 12:46 AM
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
Nice. :cheers:
KINGK
10-13-2008, 12:46 AM
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
kobe withe the flop :roll:
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
burned :pimp: udrih's always impressed me with his play
eliteballer
10-13-2008, 12:50 AM
Push-off with the right arm:banghead:
poeticism707
10-13-2008, 12:57 AM
Kobe just got basketball, as well as falling down lessons!!!
Noob Saibot
10-13-2008, 01:07 AM
:roll:
Kobe's getting juked up a lot these days, should've played lazy defense, so he wouldn't get embarrassed like that.
ronnymac
10-13-2008, 01:13 AM
udrih is on the spurs and no he is not goin to light up the lakers.
YOU FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
ronnymac
10-13-2008, 01:15 AM
kobe withe the flop :roll:
Flop?. hardly. he got schooled.
poeticism707
10-13-2008, 01:18 AM
Flop?. hardly. he got schooled.
Agreed!
Man, I wish 2000 Allen Iverson were still playing in the NBA!!!
Kobe would be embarrassed so bad trying to guard him, he'd probably retire.
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
This is showing up as a jpeg for me -- are others seeing this as an animated gif? :confusedshrug:
poeticism707
10-13-2008, 01:32 AM
This is showing up as a jpeg for me -- are others seeing this as an animated gif? :confusedshrug:
Yep- its animated for Kobe as well, but not exactly a gif(t)!
Noob Saibot
10-13-2008, 01:33 AM
This is showing up as a jpeg for me -- are others seeing this as an animated gif
^yea i can see it as a gif.
Allstar24
10-13-2008, 01:39 AM
This is showing up as a jpeg for me -- are others seeing this as an animated gif? :confusedshrug:
Can't bring yourself to go to sleep without seeing this thing, can you? Get some professional help ASAP, your infatuation with Kobe is getting unhealthy.
Never mind, I changed the extension and opened it in WMP. Nasty move. LOL @ Kobe yelling at the ref as he goes to the ground. :oldlol: He got done.
bigkingsfan, any chance of seeing this in real time (as opposed to what looks like a replay in slow-mo)? Thanks regardless. :cheers:
bigkingsfan
10-13-2008, 01:39 AM
This is showing up as a jpeg for me -- are others seeing this as an animated gif? :confusedshrug:
I actually know what you're referring to, the site I use actually adds a jpeg extension at the end when I upload it as a gif. It properly displays in firefox and ie though, but other browser could be an issue.
Realtime really sucks, the commentators and crowd isn't into it at all, and they didn't show a replay until later on in the game.
poeticism707
10-13-2008, 01:41 AM
Can't bring yourself to go to sleep without seeing this thing, can you? Get some professional help ASAP, your infatuation with Kobe is getting unhealthy.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Just hilarious!
Realtime really sucks, the commentators and crowd isn't into it at all, and they didn't show a replay until later on in the game.
Do you have video of the actual play from the normal game angle in real time, though? It'd be great if you could upload it. I'll understand if it's too much of a hassle, though.
I didn't see the game live, but that gif seems like Udrih is pushing off with his right arm. Or Kobe is a good actor...
poeticism707
10-13-2008, 01:53 AM
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bigkingsfan
10-13-2008, 01:53 AM
Do you have video of the actual play from the normal game angle in real time, though? It'd be great if you could upload it. I'll understand if it's too much of a hassle, though.
Here it is http://rapidshare.com/files/153491900/beno_kobe.wmv.html
Youtube quality blows, so I didn't upload it there.
Here it is http://rapidshare.com/files/153491900/beno_kobe.wmv.html
Youtube quality blows, so I didn't upload it there.
Thanks. :cheers: :bowdown:
LOL @ anyone calling that a push-off, btw. :oldlol: Kobe's ass was in seated position on its way down before Udrih's arm extended at all, and even when it did, he barely made contact with Kobe.
KenneBell
10-13-2008, 02:15 AM
Kobe would be embarrassed so bad trying to guard him, he'd probably retire.
Didn't stop Jordan from playing. Everyone gets done sometime. I can see that you are just here to instigate though.
Don Cheto
10-13-2008, 03:48 AM
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
:eek: wow! That's nasty! I think it's safe to say that this is the end of an era for Kobe.
Oh well, he had a good run.
poeticism707
10-13-2008, 03:52 AM
:eek: wow! That's nasty! I think it's safe to say that this is the end of an era for Kobe.
Oh well, he had a good run.
The league will get Kobe titles if they have to hijack the Spurs (or Boston's) plane to do it!
CelticForce1349
10-13-2008, 04:30 AM
I have never been a fan of the Lakers but I do respect them as a team. I have to say I am impressed with the team they are building for the future...Bynum, Gasol, Odem, etc. They just need to hurry up and dump this clown for a real shooting guard if they want to win a Championship.
Kobe Bryant: NBA B!tch.
Figlo
10-13-2008, 06:13 AM
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
Repped
dhenk
10-13-2008, 07:40 AM
Poor old Kobe, no titles as the first option but already leaving his prime...
KINGK
10-13-2008, 09:11 AM
:oldlol: at alll these pathetic Jordan groupies getting all excited.:roll:
AItheAnswer3
10-13-2008, 09:14 AM
Udrih telling Kobe Bryant to have a seat
Maniak
10-13-2008, 10:33 AM
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
Damn! I need to get that resized for my avvie, sick move by Beno!
Could you PM me it resized? I can rep
That's what happens when you give it your all on defense against quicker players, just ask Jordan when he got crossed by Iverson.
Chrono90
10-13-2008, 12:23 PM
pushoff on right arm
nek1477
10-13-2008, 12:37 PM
You can clearly see udrih stepping on kobe after the spin move, udrih basically landed on his foot.
glidedrxlr22
10-13-2008, 12:57 PM
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: at the laker trolls getting their prides hurt.
Killer_Instinct
10-13-2008, 01:01 PM
It never happened.
Jordan80
10-13-2008, 01:11 PM
:oldlol:
don't know why you think it's funny, i'm a laker fan too and i think it's disturbing how quickly his explosion is going.
Kobe24
10-13-2008, 01:12 PM
LOL, some people here are so sensitive. Kobe got crossed. He's still a better player than that scrub. End of story.
Diesel J
10-13-2008, 01:15 PM
Thanks. :cheers: :bowdown:
LOL @ anyone calling that a push-off, btw. :oldlol: Kobe's ass was in seated position on its way down before Udrih's arm extended at all, and even when it did, he barely made contact with Kobe.
:roll:
Batchoy
10-13-2008, 02:01 PM
LOL, some people here are so sensitive. Kobe got crossed. He's still a better player than that scrub. End of story.Which makes it that much more embarrassing to Kobe. Shouldn't have happened to him.
Showtime
10-13-2008, 02:31 PM
Is this the same "scrub" who lit up LA last season with a 25/10 on 56% for the win at Staples? Yeah, but he's a scrub...because he isn't wearing yellow on his back.
Resurrection
10-13-2008, 03:36 PM
That play wasn't a big deal at all. But when it involves Kobe Bryant, I guess it becomes one. :rolleyes:
ihatetimthomas
10-13-2008, 03:50 PM
Which makes it that much more embarrassing to Kobe. Shouldn't have happened to him.
Yea because no player in history has ever been crossed or burned by a player less superior to them, right? Yea tell that to MJ
Showtime
10-13-2008, 04:01 PM
That play wasn't a big deal at all. But when it involves Kobe Bryant, I guess it becomes one. :rolleyes:
Well, when a first team all-defender (:rolleyes:) gets crossed, it might get attention.
AItheAnswer3
10-13-2008, 04:01 PM
That play wasn't a big deal at all. But when it involves Kobe Bryant, I guess it becomes one. :rolleyes:
Are you hurt?
ihatetimthomas
10-13-2008, 04:05 PM
People just love to take anything negative that happens to Kobe and blw it way out of proportion. You think other elite defenders have never had their ankles broken? ISH Laker haters are hilarious
Rockets(T-mac)
10-13-2008, 04:05 PM
That play wasn't a big deal at all. But when it involves Kobe Bryant, I guess it becomes one. :rolleyes:
But if Lebron got crossed like that, it would matter right? :lol You're a clown.
Maniak
10-13-2008, 04:07 PM
That play wasn't a big deal at all. But when it involves Kobe Bryant, I guess it becomes one. :rolleyes:
Why so mad?
bleedinpurpleTwo
10-13-2008, 04:18 PM
People just love to take anything negative that happens to Kobe and blw it way out of proportion. You think other elite defenders have never had their ankles broken? ISH Laker haters are hilarious
sad really. so few posters here who can act/post objectively and maturely.
KNOW1EDGE
10-13-2008, 04:34 PM
Kobe>Beno
/End of freaking story......
sad really. so few posters here who can act/post objectively and maturely.
I find the that the most objective posters tend to have purple and gold avatars.
No, seriously.
Doranku
10-13-2008, 05:57 PM
Poor old Kobe, no titles as the first option but already leaving his prime...
He may be 'leaving his prime', but he's still the second best player in the NBA right now. lol @ all you haters orgasming over this gif.
One of Shemps Kids
10-13-2008, 06:11 PM
Push-off with the right arm:banghead:
Are you serious?
dhenk
10-13-2008, 06:46 PM
He may be 'leaving his prime', but he's still the second best player in the NBA right now. lol @ all you haters orgasming over this gif.
No need to feel attacked...I
KINGK
10-13-2008, 07:03 PM
:oldlol: at these Jordan groupies/Laker haters still going about that play. They must be really excited.:roll:
glidedrxlr22
10-13-2008, 07:05 PM
^^Laker http://vanguard.tentonhammer.com/files/gallery/albums/article-illustrations/troll1.jpg
HisJoeness
10-13-2008, 07:06 PM
:oldlol: at these Jordan groupies/Laker haters still going about that play. They must be really excited.:roll:
So tell us how we should react to this play? We so desperately need your guidance.
TheGreatDeraj
10-13-2008, 07:10 PM
To much Kobe hate/cumgurgling, not enough praise on a great move by Udrih
KINGK
10-13-2008, 07:10 PM
^^Laker http://vanguard.tentonhammer.com/files/gallery/albums/article-illustrations/troll1.jpg
You're a ****ing Blazer fan.:roll:
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 07:12 PM
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
Clear as day, he steps on Kobe's ankle and bends it. Not even something as small as stepping on his shoe. Dude steps on his ankle. That isn't getting "dropped" by any means. On further inspection, this was not some great play by some unknown shmuck named Udrih "dropping" Kobe Bryant in the spin cycle.
Anyone who thinks this is Kobe Bryant getting shook is out of their mind, and really doesn't know what they're talking about. Kobe is in pain visibly falling before the guy even finishes the move because he's PIVOTING on KOBE'S RIGHT ANKLE for christ sakes. That is far from getting crossed up, or hung out to dry on a spin move.
Diesel J
10-13-2008, 07:23 PM
That play wasn't a big deal at all. But when it involves Kobe Bryant, I guess it becomes one. :rolleyes:
Someone hand this guy a tissue.:lol
http://i38.tinypic.com/11jrmed.jpg
Clear as day, he steps on Kobe's ankle and bends it. Not even something as small as stepping on his shoe. Dude steps on his ankle. That isn't getting "dropped" by any means. On further inspection, this was not some great play by some unknown shmuck named Udrih "dropping" Kobe Bryant in the spin cycle.
Anyone who thinks this is Kobe Bryant getting shook is out of their mind, and really doesn't know what they're talking about. Kobe is in pain visibly falling before the guy even finishes the move because he's PIVOTING on KOBE'S RIGHT ANKLE for christ sakes. That is far from getting crossed up, or hung out to dry on a spin move.
I see that now that I look at it closely and watch Kobe's right foot/ankle. Udrih appears to brush it as Kobe starts to slide it (when Udrih initiates the spin), and it may have prevented Kobe from sliding it over quickly enough to regain his center of balance. Still not sure if that would have been enough to prevent the fall, however, since Kobe's center of gravity there is more over his left foot, which was planted and stationary as he fell; him sliding his left foot in further more quickly wouldn't have necessary resulted in him being centered balance-wise. I see the part you're talking about, though.
In other words, I think he would have fallen or fell backwards regardless. Kobe would have had to plant his left foot (which was unaffected) further than he did in order to chance his center of gravity appreciably. He planted it too close because he expected to chest up for a second, and then Udrih spun off too quickly, removing the leverage Kobe expected from the contact.
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 07:43 PM
This thread is a Kobe hating circle jerk. With people saying hypotheticals that he would have fell regardless. He falls because the guy pivots on his spin move on Kobe's high ankle.
The move wasn't some nice piece of ball handling, or lethally effective or quick. This is a huge myth. Kobe didn't fall from a move. His ankle got planted on. Not "brushed" ... LOL ...
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 07:46 PM
You want to know what getting shook is from a basketball perspective. You know a move where you're not STEPPING and PIVOTING on someone's ankle. These are real ankle breakers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkLyZ8_FiLk
This is getting dropped ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9KbVzafw1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQOco3mvSnk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwFxHiuS6-M
Kobe24
10-13-2008, 07:53 PM
Great analysis. Looked like a great move from watching the game and having no replay.
Scott Pippen
10-13-2008, 07:54 PM
He falls because the guy pivots on his spin move on Kobe's high ankle.
agree:applause:
The move wasn't some nice piece of ball handling, or lethally effective or quick. This is a huge myth
disagree:applause:
Kobe didn't fall from a move.
the move resulted him on the floor. If you do not think the move is clean then I agree.:applause:
This thread is a Kobe hating circle jerk. With people saying hypotheticals that he would have fell regardless.
I will now be a strong man and take my death sentence for what will be perceived by many insidehoops posters as Kobe hating:violin:
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 08:00 PM
Great analysis. Looked like a great move from watching the game and having no replay.
Bro ... with that replay I could tell right away he didn't get shook. You can see in the way he falls immedietely, if you play basketball and/or know what you're talking about, that he didn't get shook. The manner in which he fell, the expression of pain on his face before he even hits the ground. It was obvious. I mean, beyond the fact that none of the other supposed basketball fans in this thread can see this kid clearly stepping on Kobe's high ankle.
Anyone who consider that getting dropped either doesn't know what they're talking about, or hates Kobe Bryant.
It literally is that ****ing simple.
I've seen Kobe get shook before. Iverson put a nasty behind the back crossover on him back in 1999 in Philly. But this is not Kobe Bryant getting dropped. Hell, Kobe didn't even get crossed. He was all over that guy like a cheap shot with some very good defense.
But beyond all that ... IDK why anyone would get in an up roar if it was a legit move that made him fall. Players, great players get dropped all the time. It happens. It's the nature of the business. You will get shook on some occassion. The great defenders however can shrug it off, and not lose confidence. If you're willing to get dirty and play good defense, you are gonna get shook sometime. Ask Jordan, ask Dumars, ask anyone ... samething with getting dunked on.
I mean Deron Williams shakes alot of people, and is a very good defender. But Jamal Crawford obliterated dude's ankles on a crossover behind the back, turned into a hop step earlier in the year. Fact is ... it happens. This thread was just like a bee hive of activity for people waiting to get on Kobe Bryant for something. As if it makes him less of a ball player. But the truth of the matter is nothing happened. Someone stepped on his ankle on a very ordinary spin move. Big ... ****ING .. deal.
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 08:02 PM
disagree:applause:
Really? Then you clearly wouldn't know what you're talking about. Kobe doesn't fall in the manner he did if the guy doesn't have his pivot foot planted on Kobe Bryant's ankle. Why? Here's why. See I'm gonna disagree and tell you why you're wrong. The way the guy is spinning, and stepping on Kobe's ankle on the foot Kobe's needs to go the new direction Udrich is going. But he can't cause guy has his weight on Kobe's ankle. This isn't the move dropping Kobe. It's Kobe's inability to move his foot. Jesus, I shouldn't have to explain this ...
plowking
10-13-2008, 08:11 PM
You want to know what getting shook is from a basketball perspective. You know a move where you're not STEPPING and PIVOTING on someone's ankle. These are real ankle breakers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkLyZ8_FiLk
This is getting dropped ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9KbVzafw1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQOco3mvSnk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwFxHiuS6-M
Well if you want to get technical on that again.
In the first video Ben pushes off Wade, and I think when watching that game ages ago, he stepped on his foot.
On the second one, Wade gives Snow a nudge. Did you see how far he slid?
Third one. No contact, just made the guy fall.
So essentially, there is always going to be a bit of contact, though it was a great piece of dribbling and ball handling, and it was an ankle breaker.
Bro ... with that replay I could tell right away he didn't get shook. You can see in the way he falls immedietely, if you play basketball and/or know what you're talking about, that he didn't get shook. The manner in which he fell, the expression of pain on his face before he even hits the ground. It was obvious. I mean, beyond the fact that none of the other supposed basketball fans in this thread can see this kid clearly stepping on Kobe's high ankle.
Anyone who consider that getting dropped either doesn't know what they're talking about, or hates Kobe Bryant.
It literally is that ****ing simple.
Dude, I play ball, and I'm pretty sure that my previous analysis holds weight. Kobe would have had to move his left foot further over (creating a wider stance) to avoid falling, and the fact that he planted the left foot too closely, expecting to straighten up for a second and anticipating some contact, is what caused his center of gravity to become disturbed.
What I will say is that perhaps if his right foot/ankle wasn't touched, he may have had time to take a second quick step with his left foot in order to widen his stance and not lose his balance. Perhaps. Or maybe he would have opened up with the right foot quickly enough to counter his own backwards momentum. Hard to say.
Godfather
10-13-2008, 08:18 PM
:oldlol: at all these Jordan groupies getting excited. These clowns are probably scared ****less of Kobe getting his 4th ring this year. ****ing clowns.:oldlol:
Why be scared of Kobe getting his 4th (3 as the second best player) when Jordan has 6 being the main man?
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 08:18 PM
None of those were as bad as stepping on someone's ankle while making a move. Ben Gordon didn't even come close to touching Wade on that play. Not even close. Wade didn't push Snow. That's why it was so bad. He had done it to Raja Bell before as well. Don't you think if someone slid that far and there was contact it would've been an offensive foul? It wasn't for a reason. Iverson didn't touch Daniels. And Gordon didn't touch Wade.
No contact here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf52QvqAKQ8
No contact here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJzaVXsysLQ
No contact here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt5BzkyaSgA
And nothing as ridiculous as pivoting on a guy's foot / ankle as an excuse for making someone "fall"
Big difference.
Kobe didn't fall because of a move. His lead foot to change direction with the defender got stepped on. If you watch the replay he's not getting shook. He's with the dude the entire time. Including the transition to the spin move in the opposite direction, but he can't keep moving with the offensive player cause he can't move thanks to a finely planted foot on his ankle.
It's not rocket sceince.
04mzwach
10-13-2008, 08:20 PM
Jordan got crossed up by Iverson and fell, the lengths Kobe will go to be like Mike. :oldlol:
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 08:24 PM
Dude, I play ball, and I'm pretty sure that my previous analysis holds weight. Kobe would have had to move his left foot further over (creating a wider stance) to avoid falling, and the fact that he planted the left foot too closely, expecting to straighten up for a second and anticipating some contact, is what caused his center of gravity to become disturbed.
What I will say is that perhaps if his right foot/ankle wasn't touched, he may have had time to take a second quick step with his left foot in order to widen his stance and not lose his balance. Perhaps. Or maybe he would have opened up with the right foot quickly enough to counter his own backwards momentum. Hard to say.
I'm pretty sure you do play ball. Bet alot of others here don't. Or aren't particularly good. But the other part to the equation was I said if you think that's Kobe getting dropped by a move, youy either don't know or play ball, or you're a Kobe hater. And you Loki, my son, are a Kobe hating nut job of a clown. When watching the replay it is clear he is shifting with Udrich, even in the transitional spin move. But he can't keep moving because the foot Kobe needs to switch direction is being stepped on. That isn't getting dropped by a move. In fact he'd clearly with the kid the whole time. And hypotheticals are for nadda. You are clearly looking for a reason to validate Kobe falling. I'm seeing it as it is. He fell because the offensive player plants his pivot foot on Kobe's ankle keeping it on the ground, when Kobe needs it to change direction with him. And it's obvious from the rest of Kobe's body mannerisms and focus, he is with the guy even as he begins spinning in the opposite direction. This move didn't make Kobe fall. A move has to be clean to be considered as shaking someone.
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 08:25 PM
Jordan got crossed up by Iverson and fell, the lengths Kobe will go to be like Mike. :oldlol:
MJ didn't fall. But he did get crossed up bad, two times, on the same play.
Scott Pippen
10-13-2008, 08:32 PM
Really? Then you clearly wouldn't know what you're talking about. Kobe doesn't fall in the manner he did if the guy doesn't have his pivot foot planted on Kobe Bryant's ankle. Why? Here's why. See I'm gonna disagree and tell you why you're wrong. The way the guy is spinning, and stepping on Kobe's ankle on the foot Kobe's needs to go the new direction Udrich is going. But he can't cause guy has his weight on Kobe's ankle. This isn't the move dropping Kobe. It's Kobe's inability to move his foot. Jesus, I shouldn't have to explain this ...
I did not mean too target you. I think it was quick move and very nice move and I agree it was not clean.:applause:
ShowtymeCA2NC
10-13-2008, 08:34 PM
kobe withe the flop :roll:
That was illie!!!everybody gets done in every once in a while..but i can say that i havent been crossed so hard to the point that i fall....shyt happens tho...West West in the buildin
I'm pretty sure you do play ball. Bet alot of others here don't. Or aren't particularly good. But the other part to the equation was I said if you think that's Kobe getting dropped by a move, youy either don't know or play ball, or you're a Kobe hater. And you Loki, my son, are a Kobe hating nut job of a clown. When watching the replay it is clear he is shifting with Udrich, even in the transitional spin move. But he can't keep moving because the foot Kobe needs to switch direction is being stepped on. That isn't getting dropped by a move. In fact he'd clearly with the kid the whole time. And hypotheticals are for nadda. You are clearly looking for a reason to validate Kobe falling. I'm seeing it as it is. He fell because the offensive player plants his pivot foot on Kobe's ankle keeping it on the ground, when Kobe needs it to change direction with him. And it's obvious from the rest of Kobe's body mannerisms and focus, he is with the guy even as he begins spinning in the opposite direction. This move didn't make Kobe fall. A move has to be clean to be considered as shaking someone.
The more I look at it, I think you're right. Initially I said he was gonna fall anyway because I assumed he was trying to chest up, expecting contact, and then when Udrih spun off and there was no contact he lost his center of gravity. Now I see that he was likely trying to open up with his right foot in response to the spin (rather than slide it sideways to establish a balanced stance) and since he couldn't his balance was thrown off.
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 08:41 PM
The more I look at it, I think you're right. Initially I said he was gonna fall anyway because I assumed he was trying to chest up, expecting contact, and then when Udrih spun off and there was no contact he lost his center of gravity. Now I see that he was likely trying to open up with his right foot in response to the spin (rather than slide it sideways to establish a balanced stance) and since he couldn't his balance was thrown off.Yea, you got it. You can see him opening up with that foot, in an effort to go with him. At the very least the guy may have gotten free of Kobe alittle with the spin move, but there isn't a chance in hell it'd make him fall like that. You can see the hesitation in the fall cause bye the guy's foot on his ankle, making it obvious Kobe wants to and can stay with him but is prohibited by Udrich's pivot foot on his ankle. And Kobe's attention and upper body shows he's opening up to follow Udrich in his spin move to the left.
BTW, where do you hoop at Loki?
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 08:46 PM
I did not mean too target you. I think it was quick move and very nice move and I agree it was not clean.:applause:
It's cool, bro. Just had to debunk this myth. Kobe did not fall at all from a legit basketball move. He fell. But it wasn't from some great move or something. Meaning there is nothing to be emberassed about here if you're Kobe Bryant, or one of his fans. And also meaning, Kobe haters, there is nothing to cheer here either. The guy didn't do anything basketball wise to "wow" and make a great defender in Kobe Bryant fall from a piece of ball handling.
BTW, where do you hoop at Loki?
Just local places in Brooklyn the last few years. I really don't play as much anymore with work and everything. My friends and I will venture into the city (West 4th in the Summers) or downtown Brooklyn once in a while. I played in some Summer leagues and rec leagues when I was 19-25 (Jersey shore, some NYC leagues) but those days have passed me by. I'm 30 now. :D
I still have my athleticism, though, thankfully. :D
Samurai Swoosh
10-13-2008, 08:54 PM
Just local places in Brooklyn the last few years. I really don't play as much anymore with work and everything. My friends and I will venture into the city (West 4th in the Summers) or downtown Brooklyn once in a while. I played in some Summer leagues and rec leagues when I was 19-25 (Jersey shore, some NYC leagues) but those days have passed me by. I'm 30 now. :D
I still have my athleticism, though, thankfully. :D
Born in 1978 heh? Like ... who is that guy ... Kobe Bryant? LOL ...
Were you born and raised in Brooklyn? Good runs out there?
(YES, I'm turning this thread into "where do you hoop @" because KObe clearly didn't get shook on further review)
Born in 1978 heh? Like ... who is that guy ... Kobe Bryant? LOL ...
Were you born and raised in Brooklyn? Good runs out there?
(YES, I'm turning this thread into "where do you hoop @" because KObe clearly didn't get shook on further review)
There are some good games if you know where to go and when to go, but basketball for me the last couple of years is more about the socialization than the competition. It's good to ball with the guys I grew up with and played with who I don't get to see much anymore.
The general level of comp I play with overall is not as good as what I used to play with in leagues, though, which featured D1/semi-pro level players. I used to play ~4 hours every school day and ~8 hours every day in the Summer (I'm sure I'm not the only one who had that sort of playing schedule. :D); now I play about once each week (if that) for 3-5 hours at a time.
EDIT: Yeah, born and raised in Bklyn.
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HisJoeness
10-14-2008, 02:59 AM
There are some good games if you know where to go and when to go, but basketball for me the last couple of years is more about the socialization than the competition. It's good to ball with the guys I grew up with and played with who I don't get to see much anymore.
The general level of comp I play with overall is not as good as what I used to play with in leagues, though, which featured D1/semi-pro level players. I used to play ~4 hours every school day and ~8 hours every day in the Summer (I'm sure I'm not the only one who had that sort of playing schedule. :D); now I play about once each week (if that) for 3-5 hours at a time.
EDIT: Yeah, born and raised in Bklyn.
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My mom grew up in the flatbush area. . .
Anyway here's the video, it's looks better than the .gif imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGwkAHAGtQs
You be the judge. Was the move legit?
zebraheat
10-14-2008, 09:01 AM
Man, did I just see Kobe get his ankles broken?
I mean theres one thing to get turned inside out, but to be spun around like a top and to stumble three metres backwards, but damn! put some training wheels on that guy!
marcus007
10-14-2008, 09:34 AM
kobe got OWNED!
KINGK
10-14-2008, 12:28 PM
Why be scared of Kobe getting his 4th (3 as the second best player) when Jordan has 6 being the main man?
when did i bring up jordan? jordan fans showing they're insecurity again.:roll:
glidedrxlr22
10-14-2008, 12:43 PM
when did i bring up jordan? jordan fans showing they're insecurity again.:roll:
Not everyone who says negative things about Kobe is a Jordan lover. Eventhough I think he's lightyears above Kobe and is probably the best ever, I am not a fan of his. Get over yourself you Kobe jock rider.
stevieming
10-15-2008, 03:43 AM
come on guys Kobe was owned...
Kobe is under the impression he can still play tight D on shorter, quicker players and especially on a "scrub" like beno....
Got shown up!!
He needs to stop that doberman crap, as he is a lot slower then he use to be....too many miles on those legs...
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