OJ Mayo Or Derrick Rose Who You Got?

[lilojmayo]

im very very very deeply sadden and surprised i havent seen this out of all the dumb player or player threads some that dont even make sense

OK who would you rather have OJ Mayo or Derrick Rose

im not going into their numbers because its obvious Mayo is better at scoring/shooting catergories pts FT% 3pt% a lil better in rebounding, better on defense

while Rose is better at FG% and assists. so their no need to break down their stats.

heres them just to look at.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4387 Derrick Rose
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4389 OJ Mayo

ive asked this question on many other forums and the responses have been quiet surprise in fact startling

especially to

Kobe Fans
Ive had many many kobe fans indirectly say that Lebron and Wade are better than Kobe basically incrimininating there kobe love.

Kobe Fan: Well lilojmayo Derrick Rose is better he does more than just score he rebounds passes his assists are so much better than OJ's so is his T/O and his dunks are crazy he is so explosive he just does more.

lilojmayo: You know if i put Dwyane Wade or Lebron instead of Rose and Put Kobe instead of OJ you basically just said that they were better than Kobe

Kobe Fan: Well since Mayo is a sg he job should be put the ball in the hoop just like Kobe does, so ill take Mayo on this one.


so who you got and why?
OJ or Rose this thread could easily be renamed
Kobe or (Bron or Wade)


and yeah i got Mayo because he do work


ISH Vote Count

Mayo- 11

Rose- 22

[miles berg]

Derrick Rose. I dont see the need to give reasoning.

[SoCalMike]

i could have sworn there was a thread like this a few days ago.....




:pimp:

[artificial]

Rose because he do work


idiot

[Meticode]

At this point I'll take Rose over Mayo.

Both players are playing very well, but I'm always more fond of of PGs who can run the floor, distribute the ball well, while having the ability to drive to the basket over scorers.

[The Nets]

Rose because he's a younger player and has much more potential...

[RoseCity07]

Rose, but it's close.

Mayo was my second pick in the draft.

1.Rose
2.Mayo
3.Beasley
4.Gordon

[tsforthrees]

Rose. just saw highlights of the sixers/bulls game. wouldn't want to be andre miller right now...

[ChiBulls7]

Rose, obviously.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REPO797Fs8Y

[baseketball4life]

these two are great players, future superstars... id take mayo

[Ken_Masters]

Rose. No question.

[Lebron23]

Derrick Rose. Kid just destroyed Andre Miller. OJ Mayo will be a future NBA All Star, and the best scorer in the 2008 NBA Draft Class.

[KenneBell]

Mr. Mayo. Rose is great but OJ is smooth as glass.

[TmacsRockets]

Rose.

Rose vs Mayo is like Lebron vs Melo.

[BFRESH44]

Still would take B'Easy over both on my squad...Pooh Rose is special ball player too, though. Knew that from the jump...

[allball]

Derrick

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Mayo now this instant, Rose in the next few yearz ('08-'12), and OJ once again after they both lose their athletic prime.

[loot]

Mayo. Seriously.

[YAH trick YAH]

Rose

[2LeTTeRS]

Honestly its close....Mayo probably does more things well (i.e. better scorer and shooter, plays multiple positions, better defender), but Rose is already showing leadership abilities and seems to have the intangible factors you want in a franchise guy. If I had to choose I'd probably take Rose, but it would depend on my team.

[Devin1410]

OJ any day

[JJ81]

I like Mayo but Rose can ball

[Dasher]

Devin 1410? Really? I wonder how long you will last on the Nets badnwagon, but anyway welcome aboard. The weather is fair, and I hope you enjoy your time dickriding Mr. Harris.

[lilojmayo]

OJ any day


mayo has won about 45% on of the public over that he is better than rose and will only keep rising each night i cant wait for mayos first 40+ pt game its bound to happen

if he can drop 32pts with bowen guarding him then he can do some shyt when he plays a scrub team with shyt SG like the raptors

[Grinder]

Give me Rose.

[JPR]

Who is OJ Mayo?

[Zan Tabak]

http://www.hickerphoto.com/data/media/185/valencia-red-rose_11077.jpg

Over

http://www.foodmayhem.com/uploaded_images/mayo-713953.jpg

Sorry I was bored!:oldlol:

[brandonislegend]

Still would take B'Easy over both on my squad...Pooh Rose is special ball player too, though. Knew that from the jump...

haha you can't be serious

[marcus007]

http://www.hickerphoto.com/data/media/185/valencia-red-rose_11077.jpg

Over

http://www.foodmayhem.com/uploaded_images/mayo-713953.jpg

Sorry I was bored!:oldlol:


:cheers:

A good PG is just too rare to find... SGs like Mayo can be found almost anywhere.. If u want rings, you take Rose.

[lilmarcgasol]

ur right liloj RoY is a two horse race this year but you got the wrong horses my book it's between Marc Gasol and D-Rose, haven't seen a young rookie bigman come in and be this good in a long while.

[berraco]

ur right liloj RoY is a two horse race this year but you got the wrong horses my book it's between Marc Gasol and D-Rose, haven't seen a young rookie bigman come in and be this good in a long while.
lilmarcgasol?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[nicknamefrank]

I like mayo better
Once mayo is able to draw fouls, he would have all the ability to score
He can be average 30 ppg

Meanwhile, a pg needs to be in the right system to be great. Mayo would have an immediate impact on any team.

[2LeTTeRS]

:cheers:

A good PG is just too rare to find... SGs like Mayo can be found almost anywhere.. If u want rings, you take Rose.
You do know the last star PG to win a title is Isiah Thomas in 1990 right?

[ZHAKIDD532]

They have different games, it really depends on the team. I'm sure most would take Rose. I would.

[lilojmayo]

lilmarcgasol?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

lol your a lil late buddy but yeah thats what everyone did the first time they saw it im waiting for another gimmick account to be title

LilDRose lilderrickrose or something like that

[lilojmayo]

You do know the last star PG to win a title is Isiah Thomas in 1990 right?

you could argue tony parker, billups but they are really scoring PG not pass first

yeah i know PG are the most overrated thing maybe ever i agree they give you regular season wins ala steve nash but they dont do shyt in the playoffs thats where the SG/SF take over

look celtics didnt have a star PG they gave it to Pierce to do the work

lebron got his team to the finals no pg

kobe got his team to the finals no pg

b4 the la dynasty

knicks got in the finals with allan houston and sprewell b4 that

MJ and Pippen

so its not rocket science

if you want a 50+ win season each year go for PG

if you want big things to happen in the playoffs go for a SG/SF

[lilojmayo]

I like mayo better
Once mayo is able to draw fouls, he would have all the ability to score
He can be average 30 ppg

Meanwhile, a pg needs to be in the right system to be great. Mayo would have an immediate impact on any team.


they do preach brother


if you take a pg who is in a wrong system ala chris duhon with the bulls harris with mavs they look like scrubs you put them in a right system you get 22assist a game and 47pts

an SG dont matter what system there in they put the ball in the bucket

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

I'll take Derrick Rose and it's not even close. Mayo is just a pure scorer but Rose is going to be a beast

[lilmarcgas0l]

Derrick rose is gonna be a better team player but Mayo will be a better Scorer, but hes more selfish so id rather have Rose will drop Chris Paul numbers when Mayo will drop Redd or Allen numbers

[AItheAnswer3]

lilmarcgas0l

lilmarcgasol
:hammerhead:

[phazed out]

You do know the last star PG to win a title is Isiah Thomas in 1990 right?

c/s....

if u want rings a pg may not be your best option.maybe a scoring sg alas mj, kobe and im not comparing mayo to them but the potential may be there :ohwell: :ohwell:

rose is crack too im just saying a great pg is sometimes overrated

[basketballer4]

Rose please.

http://www.prepspotlight.com/uploads/n-/-F/n--F5-Y04peS6AZ0o7NBaQ/DERRICK-ROSE5576.jpg

[Mdog1]

I am leaning Rose, but it depens on my team. If I was the Knicks I would rather have Rose because I feel that he can get the balll up the floor in a hurry. If I was the Lakers i'd take Mayo (lilKobe). I think more teams could use a guy like Rose, but the impact that Mayo has on a team would be instant. I choose Rose because I think he fits in better for more teams, and his ego I think could be in check.

[lilmarcgasol]

lol your a lil late buddy but yeah thats what everyone did the first time they saw it im waiting for another gimmick account to be title

LilDRose lilderrickrose or something like that
Not a gimmick I'm just a big big fan of Marc's game, he has toughness and such good post skill, guys like Scola and Duncan have that skill, Marc is huge and tough, best rookie bigmen by far this year. He's getting so slept on but tough strong bigmen with double double are so much more valuable to teams than chucker selfishes hey i love OJ man, but him and Gay are holding Marc back. He will next year be a 15/12 player

[brandonislegend]

you could argue tony parker, billups but they are really scoring PG not pass first

yeah i know PG are the most overrated thing maybe ever i agree they give you regular season wins ala steve nash but they dont do shyt in the playoffs thats where the SG/SF take over

look celtics didnt have a star PG they gave it to Pierce to do the work

lebron got his team to the finals no pg

kobe got his team to the finals no pg

b4 the la dynasty

knicks got in the finals with allan houston and sprewell b4 that

MJ and Pippen

so its not rocket science

if you want a 50+ win season each year go for PG

if you want big things to happen in the playoffs go for a SG/SF

sad you say that because mayo will end his career as a PG

[lilmarcgasol]

Derrick rose is gonna be a better team player but Mayo will be a better Scorer, but hes more selfish so id rather have Rose will drop Chris Paul numbers when Mayo will drop Redd or Allen numbers
wtf who the hell are you

[JPR]

wtf who the hell are you

quit talkin to yourself. :hammerhead: :lol

[lilojmayo]

wtf who the hell are you

wow you guys are so immature im a grown azz man now i dont need this shyt


and if you forgotten


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2616146546_9d673323a1.jpg Mayo any day of the year ps look how big his biceps look no homo

[lilojmayo]

quit talkin to yourself. :hammerhead: :lol

lol i know its lilmarcgasol he a newbie he doesnt have any real fans yet me needs to earn it

like GOBB would say earn your rep son

[Dengness9]

This is a joke straight and simple.

Just like David Thorpe said in a chat wrap on ESPN recently... when asked this same question.

"Rose yesterday. Rose today. Rose tomorrow."


Oj Mayo better than Derrick Rose... please.

Wait til Rose has an all-star post scorer like Deron or CP3 and see what that does for his game. ****, wait til he gets an all-star PERIOD.

[lilmarcgasol]

quit talkin to yourself. :hammerhead: :lol
im not wtf why is someone biting my style already i only got like 80 posts wtf is this crap it better not be lilojmayo in disguise.

[danumber88]

I'm gonna say OJ Mayo next year, I just feel a big statistical increase and impact on the memphis next year.

Today, D-Rose.

[lilojmayo]

im not wtf why is someone biting my style already i only got like 80 posts wtf is this crap it better not be lilojmayo in disguise.

dont flatter yourself everybody who knows me long enough here know that im no gimmicks i hate gimmicks ppl thought this was a gimmick account its not i hate gimmicks

but who ever it is needs to stop its immature even for my standards

[brandonislegend]

you could argue tony parker, billups but they are really scoring PG not pass first

yeah i know PG are the most overrated thing maybe ever i agree they give you regular season wins ala steve nash but they dont do shyt in the playoffs thats where the SG/SF take over

look celtics didnt have a star PG they gave it to Pierce to do the work

lebron got his team to the finals no pg

kobe got his team to the finals no pg

b4 the la dynasty

knicks got in the finals with allan houston and sprewell b4 that

MJ and Pippen

so its not rocket science

if you want a 50+ win season each year go for PG

if you want big things to happen in the playoffs go for a SG/SF

sad you say that because mayo will end his career as a PG

[lilojmayo]

sad you say that because mayo will end his career as a PG

brandonislegend i just got goosebumps(no joke) mayo a pg handling the ball 20 out of the 24 secs of a shot clock wow.

[lilmarcgasol]

dont flatter yourself everybody who knows me long enough here know that im no gimmicks i hate gimmicks ppl thought this was a gimmick account its not i hate gimmicks

but who ever it is needs to stop its immature even for my standards
hey get this son its immatture even for MY standards

[Dengness9]

oh yeah forgot one thing. Mayo averages a whopping 3 points more than Rose and everyone wants to say how much better a scorer he is....


Well how about Mayo shoots a ton more than Rose, going 140-302 from the field for 46.4% shooting, 33-85 from 3pt for 38%. Rose is 127-261 from the field for 48.7% shooting, while taking only 19 3 attempts and making 7 for 36%.


Times Oj Mayo has attempted atleast 20 field goal attempts in a game: 8 times (attempted 19 fga twice)

Times Derrick Rose has attempted atleast 20 field goal attempts in a game: 2 times

Not to mention Rose averages. just .4 rebounds less a game than Mayo, and 4 more assists with Rose's assists numbers rising every game.

[MattOG711]

Derrick Rose for sure, but I do think Mayo will be the 2nd best player from last years draft

[lilojmayo]

Breaking News Both Mayo and Rose were named Co- Rookies of the Month


NEW YORK (TICKER) —Chicago Bulls guard Derrick Rose and Memphis Grizzlies swingman O.J. Mayo were named the NBA’s Rookies of the Month for November, the league announced Monday.

Selected first overall after leading the University of Memphis to the national title game as a freshman last season, Rose ranks first among all Eastern Conference rookies in scoring average (18.4), assists (6.0) and minutes (38.0).

Mayo, who was taken third by Minnesota and later traded to Memphis, is off to an outstanding start, leading all rookies in scoring at 21.9 points per game. He owns the highest scoring average for a first-year player since Allen Iverson averaged 23.4 points in 1996-97 for the Philadelphia 76ers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Agwe.M5Mz8txK9saJs22oLzMPaB4?slug=txrook iemonth&prov=st&type=lgns

thats weak i hate this CO shyt pick one or the other not both

[lilmarcgasol]

Breaking News Both Mayo and Rose were named Co- Rookies of the Month



http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Agwe.M5Mz8txK9saJs22oLzMPaB4?slug=txrook iemonth&prov=st&type=lgns

thats weak i hate this CO shyt pick one or the other not both
wtf is up with the marc gasol underration even by the league, i bet those idiots think no defense B'easy is third best rookie well I got news for them BASKETBALL IS PLAYED TWO WAYS DEFENSE IS IMPORTANT TOO AND BIG MEN THAT Don't even rebound and defend and all they do is score are useless just ask Carmelo Anthony.

[lilojmayo]

i told lebron23 this if your going to bring out stats say the Whole Story not just the ones that make your player looked better so im going to break it down for you.


Mayo averages a whopping 3 points more than Rose and everyone wants to say how much better a scorer he is....

its 3.5ppg better but thats not the point mayo is light years better than rose in scoring in fact Mayo is the second best scoring guard in the west behind kobe as a rooke 4 30pt games thats like what 5th in the nba behind wade, bron, bosh, howard , drose has had 0 30pt game he will eventually have a 30pt game but hasnt

and the only reason mayo is just averaging 3.5 ppg better than rose is because of his slow start dont believe me lets check out the numbers

mayos first 4 nba games he averaged 14.0ppg and you guys were calling him an epic fail

then he has had 2 major stretches
a 4 game stretch averaging 28.0ppg
a 5 game stretch(still running) averaging 26.6ppg
from nov 5 now is averaging 24.1ppg on 48.1% fg shooting

in the month of nov mayo is averaging

23.1ppg 4.5rebs 2.3assist 1.3steals 2.5 Tos 48.0% fg 42.1 3pt% 88.5%ft
PER 17.99


rose
have been fairly consistent but his biggest run

4 game stretch 22.5ppg

month of november
18.9ppg 4.1rebs 6.1assist .9 steals 2.8 Tos 49.6% 36.8 3pt % 85.4%ft
PER 17.85




Well how about Mayo shoots a ton more than Rose, going 140-302 from the field for 46.4% shooting, 33-85 from 3pt for 38%. Rose is 127-261 from the field for 48.7% shooting, while taking only 19 3 attempts and making 7 for 36%.

Rose takes shots closer to the basket, while mayo settles for Jumpers and mayos jumper has been falling, Mayos degree of difficulty on his 3pt shots makes percentages laughable Mayo shot 42.1% 3pt in november with a kobe bryant type 3 pt shot selection even worse actually and kobe has been a consistent 34% 3pt shooter does that mean Rose is a better shooter than kobe no percentages on 3pt shoots dont mean jack. and mayo has already had a game where he has hit 6 3pters Rose my not have a game where he hits 6 3pter his whole career.




Times Oj Mayo has attempted atleast 20 field goal attempts in a game: 8 times (attempted 19 fga twice)

Times Derrick Rose has attempted atleast 20 field goal attempts in a game: 2 times

well that maybe so but rose has alot of 17-18 attempts how you can tell in the month of november Rose attempted 15.9 FGA attempts compared to Mayos 18.1 thats only 2.1 FG more each game that means mayos has alot of game where he only attempts 14-15 shots.


Not to mention Rose averages. just .4 rebounds less a game than Mayo, and 4 more assists with Rose's assists numbers rising every game
ok mayo is just a lil bit better rebounder than rose by a hair, i mean its less than 2in in high between them mayo 6'3.25 w/o shoes rose 6'1.5 w/o
and as far as the assist thing i have to reason a mayo is a SG so his job isnt to pass the ball and 2nd most important reason we have mike conley end topic, if he gets traded and mayo takes over the point i can see his assist numbers go to the 4-5 range.


and like always i always give links where i find my answers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4389/splits;_ylt=AryMVyeQfGkddWcDrf03CUHOPaB4

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4387/splits;_ylt=AryMVyeQfGkddWcDrf03CUHMPaB4

[lilojmayo]

wtf is up with the marc gasol underration even by the league, i bet those idiots think no defense B'easy is third best rookie well I got news for them BASKETBALL IS PLAYED TWO WAYS DEFENSE IS IMPORTANT TOO AND BIG MEN THAT Don't even rebound and defend and all they do is score are useless just ask Carmelo Anthony.

according to the rookie rankings on espn its

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/rookies/rankings

1.rose
2.mayo
3.hill
4.fernandez
5.oden
6. beasley
7.marc gasol

[J000]

i told lebron23 this if your going to bring out stats say the Whole Story not just the ones that make your player looked better so im going to break it down for you.



its 3.5ppg better but thats not the point mayo is light years better than rose in scoring in fact Mayo is the second best scoring guard in the west behind kobe as a rooke 4 30pt games thats like what 5th in the nba behind wade, bron, bosh, howard , drose has had 0 30pt game he will eventually have a 30pt game but hasnt

and the only reason mayo is just averaging 3.5 ppg better than rose is because of his slow start dont believe me lets check out the numbers

mayos first 4 nba games he averaged 14.0ppg and you guys were calling him an epic fail

then he has had 2 major stretches
a 4 game stretch averaging 28.0ppg
a 5 game stretch(still running) averaging 26.6ppg
from nov 5 now is averaging 24.1ppg on 48.1% fg shooting

in the month of nov mayo is averaging

23.1ppg 4.5rebs 2.3assist 1.3steals 2.5 Tos 48.0% fg 42.1 3pt% 88.5%ft
PER 17.99


rose
have been fairly consistent but his biggest run

4 game stretch 22.5ppg

month of november
18.9ppg 4.1rebs 6.1assist .9 steals 2.8 Tos 49.6% 36.8 3pt % 85.4%ft
PER 17.85





Rose takes shots closer to the basket, while mayo settles for Jumpers and mayos jumper has been falling, Mayos degree of difficulty on his 3pt shots makes percentages laughable Mayo shot 42.1% 3pt in november with a kobe bryant type 3 pt shot selection even worse actually and kobe has been a consistent 34% 3pt shooter does that mean Rose is a better shooter than kobe no percentages on 3pt shoots dont mean jack. and mayo has already had a game where he has hit 6 3pters Rose my not have a game where he hits 6 3pter his whole career.





well that maybe so but rose has alot of 17-18 attempts how you can tell in the month of november Rose attempted 15.9 FGA attempts compared to Mayos 18.1 thats only 2.1 FG more each game that means mayos has alot of game where he only attempts 14-15 shots.


ok mayo is just a lil bit better rebounder than rose by a hair, i mean its less than 2in in high between them mayo 6'3.25 w/o shoes rose 6'1.5 w/o
and as far as the assist thing i have to reason a mayo is a SG so his job isnt to pass the ball and 2nd most important reason we have mike conley end topic, if he gets traded and mayo takes over the point i can see his assist numbers go to the 4-5 range.


and like always i always give links where i find my answers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4389/splits;_ylt=AryMVyeQfGkddWcDrf03CUHOPaB4

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4387/splits;_ylt=AryMVyeQfGkddWcDrf03CUHMPaB4

I admire your love and intelligence for OJ Mayo.
But Rose is obviously the best option.

Stats won't tell anything, but Rose style of play is amazing. The agility + atheltiscm of a PG is very rare to find.

He is doing more this year than I thought, he is already a true leader of the Bulls and he is yet to improve.

The potential of Rose is amazing because of his unique abilities. I'm not taking away from Mayo's potential but he is a great shooter I must say.

[Godfather]

I admire your love and intelligence for OJ Mayo.
But Rose is obviously the best option.

Stats won't tell anything, but Rose style of play is amazing. The agility + atheltiscm of a PG is very rare to find.

He is doing more this year than I thought, he is already a true leader of the Bulls and he is yet to improve.

The potential of Rose is amazing because of his unique abilities. I'm not taking away from Mayo's potential but he is a great shooter I must say.

Love yes...intelligence :roll:.

[J000]

Love yes...intelligence :roll:.

Intelligence with OJ Mayo is more than I expected with this guy. Apparently he was been watching him since the 8th grade, and he must know a lot.

More than you probably. He has some stats, facts to back-up Mayo.

[lilojmayo]

Love yes...intelligence :roll:.

godfather you know me by now

my intelligence is unheard out out of this world like i dont even know how you can understand me, they say if there is more than a difference of 30 pts in IQ you cant even have a conversation with them and understand them and i think there is more than a 30pt difference in IQ between me and most ppl on this forum

[lilmarcgasol]

according to the rookie rankings on espn its

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/rookies/rankings

1.rose
2.mayo
3.hill
4.fernandez
5.oden
6. beasley
7.marc gasol
wtf lol ok behind not just beasy but ODEN?? MArc gasol is not getting credit at all as the BEST ROOKIE BIGMAN THIS YEAR that he is.

[J000]

wtf lol ok behind not just beasy but ODEN?? MArc gasol is not getting credit at all as the BEST ROOKIE BIGMAN THIS YEAR that he is.

Beasley is better than him. If you say Marc Gasol is the better big man then your ludakris.

[lilmarcgasol]

Beasley is better than him. If you say Marc Gasol is the better big man then your ludakris.
Um does Beasy rebound or even play a tiny bit of defense? NO you are crazy the game of basketball goes two ways, Carmelo scores more than Duncan but do you think Carmelo is a better big man than Duncan, this is same thing durrrr:hammerhead: Plus what's Beasys season high oh yeah Marc already put up 27/16 in one game

[phazed out]

Um does Beasy rebound or even play a tiny bit of defense? NO you are crazy the game of basketball goes two ways, Carmelo scores more than Duncan but do you think Carmelo is a better big man than Duncan, this is same thing durrrr:hammerhead: Plus what's Beasys season high oh yeah Marc already put up 27/16 in one game

carmelo is not a "big" man.he plays the 3 dumbazz

[lilmarcgasol]

carmelo is not a "big" man.he plays the 3 dumbazz
Beasley is basically same size as Melo and plays PF just because his team, no way is he a good bigman though, again how well does he defend opposing PFs and how much does he rebound? Game goes both ways if basketball was all offense guys like Steve Nash and Carmelo Anthony would be the best players in the league but they only play one side of the ball, Marc plays both equally well, clearly seperates him from Beasy, one way player, and also he's better than Oden but Oden is his closest competition.

[e-LIMON-ators]

DRose cuz he WINZ DA GAMEZ :cheers:

[lilojmayo]

Beasley is basically same size as Melo and plays PF just because his team, no way is he a good bigman though, again how well does he defend opposing PFs and how much does he rebound? Game goes both ways if basketball was all offense guys like Steve Nash and Carmelo Anthony would be the best players in the league but they only play one side of the ball, Marc plays both equally well, clearly seperates him from Beasy, one way player, and also he's better than Oden but Oden is his closest competition.

actually i think melo is closer to about 6'9 like lebron because when they stand side by side they look the same in fact i think melo look a lil bit taller like by 1/16 of an inch.

[lilojmayo]

DRose cuz he WINZ DA GAMEZ :cheers:

bulls are what 9-8 mediocre
memphis 4-13

and memphis had a tough schedule 2x spurs 2x utah 1 nuggets w/billups 1 rockets

i dont even think LA would be 15-1 with that schedule

but memphis schedule lightens up and they can go back to playing their mediocre basketball like in teh beginning of the season b4 their schedule got crazy hard ala 3-3

[lilmarcgas0l]

Um does Beasy rebound or even play a tiny bit of defense? NO you are crazy the game of basketball goes two ways, Carmelo scores more than Duncan but do you think Carmelo is a better big man than Duncan, this is same thing durrrr:hammerhead: Plus what's Beasys season high oh yeah Marc already put up 27/16 in one game

Yeah but we gotta see Marc Gasol get more consistent, one night he does good but the next night his stats are lower. He gotta be OJ mayo and keep his high stats almost every game.

[SLY]

Mayo

[lilojmayo]

Yeah, and the Bulls have played the toughest schedule in the entire NBA (look at Hollinger's SOS ratings). Rose will have his team in the playoffs while Memphis will likely be in the lottery again. Also keep in mind that Rose doesn't have a second option like Rudy Gay or a decent center like Gasol on his team.

Rose also dominated Mayo in the Memphis/Chicago game (third game of the year).

We'll see if Mayo can redeem himself on the 12th.

mayo also started the first 4 games of the year averaging 14ppg


and rose has a second choice who is playing better than rudy guy in ben gordon 20.2ppg while shooting 44% from the field

[lilojmayo]

can some GIF this for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9njKtAP4OHA&feature=related

[lilmarcgasol]

Yeah but we gotta see Marc Gasol get more consistent, one night he does good but the next night his stats are lower. He gotta be OJ mayo and keep his high stats almost every game.
**** you poser nice job getting ur biting account deleted :lol

[Dengness9]

The new rookie rankings are out and did u guys see what was said about Mayo????? Another reason he isn't as good as D Rose.


Lets see what the update said about the #1 and #2 ranked rookies...

1. Derrick Rose, Bulls
Rose played a big part in the Bulls' having a mostly successful circus trip. I'm especially impressed with some of the numbers he put up on the road trip: 25 points and 5 assists in a win at Golden State, 25 and 9 in a big win at Utah, and 18 and 10 in an easy win in Philly.

On top of that, he's already starting to develop that feeling of being able to will his team to a win.

2. O.J. Mayo, Grizzlies
Memphis' record might be miserable, but the Grizz must be thrilled with Mayo, who continues to score lots of points with efficiency. However, there is some concern over how he's doing that. Mayo currently gets 80 percent of his shots from the perimeter, but only 37 percent are assisted. For comparison's sake, consider two other excellent outside shooters who play off the ball: Richard Hamilton (82 percent of his shots are from the perimeter, 75 percent assisted) and Michael Redd (74 percent of his shots are from the perimeter, 73 percent assisted).

This suggests that Mayo is very adept at getting his own shot. But combine that with his 2.2 assists per game and an ugly offensive picture forms -- he's not (yet) helping anyone else get involved in the offense. Memphis is fifth-worst in the league in offensive efficiency and dead last in assist rate.


Rose wills his teams to victories and Mayo can create his own offense, but does little to get his team involved.

All u Mayo supporters who think he is better than Rose need to give in now and save the heartbreak of finding out later. haha

[lilojmayo]

The new rookie rankings are out and did u guys see what was said about Mayo????? Another reason he isn't as good as D Rose.


Lets see what the update said about the #1 and #2 ranked rookies...

1. Derrick Rose, Bulls
Rose played a big part in the Bulls' having a mostly successful circus trip. I'm especially impressed with some of the numbers he put up on the road trip: 25 points and 5 assists in a win at Golden State, 25 and 9 in a big win at Utah(WITHOUT DERON WILLIAMS), and 18 and 10 in an easy win in Philly.

On top of that, he's already starting to develop that feeling of being able to will his team to a win.

2. O.J. Mayo, Grizzlies
Memphis' record might be miserable, but the Grizz must be thrilled with Mayo, who continues to score lots of points with efficiency. However, there is some concern over how he's doing that. Mayo currently gets 80 percent of his shots from the perimeter, but only 37 percent are assisted. For comparison's sake, consider two other excellent outside shooters who play off the ball: Richard Hamilton (82 percent of his shots are from the perimeter, 75 percent assisted) and Michael Redd (74 percent of his shots are from the perimeter, 73 percent assisted).

This suggests that Mayo is very adept at getting his own shot. But combine that with his 2.2 assists per game and an ugly offensive picture forms -- he's not (yet) helping anyone else get involved in the offense. Memphis is fifth-worst in the league in offensive efficiency and dead last in assist rate.


Rose wills his teams to victories and Mayo can create his own offense, but does little to get his team involved.

All u Mayo supporters who think he is better than Rose need to give in now and save the heartbreak of finding out later. haha

mayo is a SG thats not his job description we have a shyt PG in mike conley he the real cause in why we have the worst assist numbers Mayo also plays 10X better defense than Rose did they mention that no, Mayo like kobe does so many things that the stat sheet doesnt show especially on the defensive end.


and the experts dont know shyt never ever ever listen to them, ( its a disgrace how they vote for the winners) i was smart i knew Mayo was the real deal the "experts ranked him 102 in fantasy b4 the season) now he is the #12 right there should say they have no creditabilty at all.


the minute Memphis goes on a winning streak or the bulls go on a loosing streak that same expert who wrote that article will say something completely different they just flip flop back and forth.

Still lets c how they do when they play each other again is it the 12th or 16th one of those days thats when they play so in about 2 weeks.

im not concerned about Memphis record there last 6 games (besides loosing to the thunder) have been brutal utah 2x spurs 2x right there is enough to make me shiver


at the end of december lets compare the bulls and memphis records memphis is only 4 games back of the bulls and there is still 65 games to play

[lilojmayo]

and comparing mayo to redd and hamiliton shows this dude has no crediblitiy or doesnt watch any memphis games

Mayo right now is a better shooting kobe bryant w/o the consistent driving game.

Thats why mayo shoots so many tough perimeter shoots and he is hitting them to by the way 48.1% FG 42.3 % 3pt line in november.

[lilojmayo]

wow once i start i cant stop

dont listen to rookie rankings look with your eyes and look at the stats


the first few weeks off the season Rudy Fernandez was the number #1 rookie in rankings

and i even said theres no point in putting him at #1 he not going to last not because of talent he just doesnt get enough minutes to keep up with a Mayo or Rose who average 38-39min a game

and just 2 weeks later Fernandez has fallen out of the ROY race

these experts sux im so glad i dont even bother reading their garbage

[Smokee]

I like both of them but Rose has really stepped up in the last few weeks imo. Really taken control and become a superstar. Earlier in the season he was making way more mistakes, poor deciisons, etc. He's really surprised me../.

[big baller]

rose

[lilmarcgasol]

Rose wills his teams to victories and Mayo can create his own offense, but does little to get his team involved.

All u Mayo supporters who think he is better than Rose need to give in now and save the heartbreak of finding out later. haha
Exactly I mean he's obviously scared of Marc being more impressive player just like Kobe used to be scared of Shaq upstaging him that's why he never passes to Marc who is a beast in the low post, he doesn't want to lose rookie of the year to his own teammate, Mayo is gunning for RoY, if he wanted to I know him and MG33 would be the best young wing/big duo in the league but Mayo only cares about himself no matter Marc is shooting 60% O well In Mayo's world that just means he has to shoot more to keep up, seriously if only Conley weren't such a goddamned idiot and Mayo fed Gasol more in the post Grizz would be like have 8 wins by now, cant wait for Marc to get out of Memphis with black hole cancers Gay and Mayo holding him back.

[mmsupra]

Rose

[lilojmayo]

ISH Vote Count

Mayo- 11

Rose- 22



ive tallied up all the responses so far it look likes rose has a 3 to 1 lead on mayo

[Da KO King]

Rather have Derrick Rose.

With Marc Iavaroni coaching OJ Mayo may never reach his potential. I'm not a big Vinny Del Negro fan but I have a lot more faith in him as a development guy.

[lilmarcgasol]

ISH Vote Count

Mayo- 11

Rose- 22



ive tallied up all the responses so far it look likes rose has a 3 to 1 lead on mayo
:hammerhead: that's a two to one lead and also a vote from me for Mayo

[lilojmayo]

:hammerhead: that's a two to one lead and also a vote from me for Mayo


it is oh well, but anyway

Mayo plays Rose today so we can finally settle this once and for all

[lilojmayo]

Memphis and the Bulls both lost heartbreakers tonight

so the bulls are still 2 games in front of memphis who has won their last 5 out 7

the scary thing is the bulls are about to play their toughest schedule west coast trip next week

Rose had his first really bad game today 6pts 3-16 fg 5rebs 7 assist in 46 min of play

DJ Augustine was balling tho 29pts he dropped on Rose


Wow it just hit me memphis plays bobcats next on thursday with 2 undersized G

OJ going off

[AllenIverson3]

D. Rose is a better leader
OJ Mayo is a better scorer

[ZHAKIDD532]

Mayo's good, but he's not Derrick Rose.

[shaoyut]

derrick rose

[lilojmayo]

Rose's good, but he's not Ovinton J'Anthony Mayo.

FIXED

give it up ppl

lets c what rose does in his west coast trip i mention in the oj mayo thread

right now

17.7ppg 6.4 assist 4 rebs 47.6% fg 81.3%ft 33.3% 3pt PER 16.1

mayo

20.8 ppg 2.7 assist 4.2 rebs 47.2 fg 88% ft 41% 3pt line PER 18.1


numbers dont lie, and mayo has made memphis a better team than rose has made the bulls the better team

rose is only has 2 games on mayo and he is about to go on the toughest west coast trip of the season this week

[jc23]

Derrick Rose.:violin:

[ronnymac]

FIXED

give it up ppl

lets c what rose does in his west coast trip i mention in the oj mayo thread

right now

17.7ppg 6.4 assist 4 rebs 47.6% fg 81.3%ft 33.3% 3pt PER 16.1

mayo

20.8 ppg 2.7 assist 4.2 rebs 47.2 fg 88% ft 41% 3pt line PER 18.1


numbers dont lie, and mayo has made memphis a better team than rose has made the bulls the better team

rose is only has 2 games on mayo and he is about to go on the toughest west coast trip of the season this week
Right now rose is making his teammates alot better then you're boy is. he also has led his team to a better record then memphis. oh lets not forget rose is a clutch assasin under pressure.

[Huey Freeman]

Easy.

Derrick Rose.

[ChiBulls7]

Mayo has been playing so much better than I expected. He looked like Kobe lite vs the heat. Rose is coming off his worst game thus far, but look for him to bounce back strong tomorrow.

"We have another game [Wednesday]," Rose said. "I can't wait for it."

[liverpooty]

After the way Augustin ripped into Rose last night we might possibly be talking about Rose vs Augustin here in a couple months.

[Stiff #1]

Unlike Beasley and Oden, at least this is a rookie comparison that isn't downright insulting to Derrick Rose. Mayo is a great player, even better than a rookie LeBron was, but right now it's pretty obvious that Derrick Rose is going to be better than Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade, Deron Williams, Jason Kidd and Steve Nash when he hits his prime. In other words, Derrick Rose will be a top 3 player in the league.

Now we need to get a few important facts out of the way:

Front Office - Wallace vs. Paxson
Wallace acquired rookie stud Marc Gasol and traded overweight/overrated prospect Kevin Love for OJ Mayo. The man clearly has what it takes to succeed at this level. On the other hand, Paxson is some loser who is only remembered for hitting a wide open threes created for him by Jordan and Pippen. He has a strong case for worst GM in the league.

Advantage: Mayo

Coach - Iavaroni vs. Del Negro
I'm pretty sure Iavaroni has at least had experience coaching elementary school basketball. You can't even say this about Del Negro.

Advantage: Mayo

Teammates - Gay/Warrick/Conley/Gasol vs. Deng/Hinrich/Thomas/Hughes
Rudy Gay is an all-star, Marc Gasol is the best rookie center in the league, and Mike Conley and Hakim Warrick are solid players. Luol Deng sucks, Kirk Hinrich sucks, and Tyrus Thomas sucks. When the game is on the line for Chicago, you know there's only one player who deserves to touch the ball. When Rose struggles, Chicago struggles. When Mayo struggles, he has Gay and Gasol to bail him out.

Advantage: Mayo

Stats - Rose vs. Mayo
Mayo is at 21/4/3 on 47% shooting. Rose is at 18/4/6 on 48% shooting. Now, even forgetting that Rose puts up these numbers in the worst situation possible, we can still clearly see that his numbers are slightly better.

NOW you take into consideration that Rose would be averaging 19/4/9 on 50% if he had a legit second option and monster big men with the ability to finish around the rim. After doing this, it becomes clear that Derrick Rose is easily the better player of the two.

Here's the "big 4" order for 2008 rookies:

Derrick Rose
OJ Mayo



Michael Beasley
Greg Oden

[Manute for Ever!]

Rose - 'Nuff said.

[liverpooty]

I could easily see Mayo being the next Abdur Rahim. Putting up insane stats on horrific teams.

Lets hope not, though.

[KenneBell]

http://shopuncleharrys.dukestores.duke.edu/images/cond%201%20005.jpg

[liverpooty]

http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/5029/2317155290084377997S425x425Q85.jpg

He must dig the 13 year olds.

[Trax416]

Mayo averages more points, more rebounds, more steals, less turn overs, higher FT percentage, higher 3pt percentage, and does it in less minutes.

Mayo > Rose.

[TmacsRockets]

Mayo averages more FGA on a team with more legit #2 options. That's the only reason he scores more. He also shoots a worse percentage.

He is 3 inches taller, and thus expected to average more rebounds. However, 4 rpg for a 6'2" PG is much more impressive than 4.7 rpg for a 6'5" SG.

He does average more steals.

He averages 2.68 TO/game to Rose's 2.75/game. Rose handles the ball far more often and has nobody good enough on his team to take any offensive pressure off of him. Rose is consistently doubled at the top of the key and forced to make passes to trash players like Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas. If Mayo had this kind of team around him, and if he was a PG, he'd be averaging around 4 TO/game.

Rose averages WAY more assists/game despite playing on a team full of brick-laying 10th men.

Conclusion: Rose's numbers are more impressive considering the situation he is in. If Rose played on Memphis and if Mayo played on Chicago, here is what the numbers would look like:

Mayo - 18 ppg, 4 rpg, 1.5 apg, 45 FG%
Rose - 22 ppg, 4 rpg, 8.5 apg, 50 FG%

Rose is better than Mayo.

Where did you get those numbers from?

[2LeTTeRS]

Mayo averages more FGA on a team with more legit #2 options. That's the only reason he scores more. He also shoots a worse percentage.

He is 3 inches taller, and thus expected to average more rebounds. However, 4 rpg for a 6'2" PG is much more impressive than 4.7 rpg for a 6'5" SG.

He does average more steals.

He averages 2.68 TO/game to Rose's 2.75/game. Rose handles the ball far more often and has nobody good enough on his team to take any offensive pressure off of him. Rose is consistently doubled at the top of the key and forced to make passes to trash players like Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas. If Mayo had this kind of team around him, and if he was a PG, he'd be averaging around 4 TO/game.

Rose averages WAY more assists/game despite playing on a team full of brick-laying 10th men.

Conclusion: Rose's numbers are more impressive considering the situation he is in. If Rose played on Memphis and if Mayo played on Chicago, here is what the numbers would look like:

Mayo - 18 ppg, 4 rpg, 1.5 apg, 45 FG%
Rose - 22 ppg, 4 rpg, 8.5 apg, 50 FG%

Rose is better than Mayo.

BULLS you're back again? If you're going to keep on allowing him back, how about we just free up his original account name so everybody knows who they're talking to.

[Maniak]

Where did you get those numbers from?

derrickrosesnuts.com

[beasted86]

BULLS you're back again? If you're going to keep on allowing him back, how about we just free up his original account name so everybody knows who they're talking to.

Either that or permanently ban the IPs he's posting from.

[gts]

mayo... PG's are valuble but even the best point gaurds don't lead teams to rings, wingmen and big men are far more important to a teams success and easier to build around...

[beasted86]

Tell that to Isiah Thomas & Magic Johnson.

[loot]

Either that or permanently ban the IPs he's posting from.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109363

[lilojmayo]

Mayo averages more FGA on a team with more legit #2 options. That's the only reason he scores more. He also shoots a worse percentage.

He is 3 inches taller, and thus expected to average more rebounds. However, 4 rpg for a 6'2" PG is much more impressive than 4.7 rpg for a 6'5" SG.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/a5/fullj.d3b5ebdeef9dc4bf84f028893a55dc7f/d3b5ebdeef9dc4bf84f028893a55dc7f-getty-83005135jm024_bulls_grizz.jpg


He does average more steals.

He averages 2.68 TO/game to Rose's 2.75/game. Rose handles the ball far more often and has nobody good enough on his team to take any offensive pressure off of him. Rose is consistently doubled at the top of the key and forced to make passes to trash players like Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas. If Mayo had this kind of team around him, and if he was a PG, he'd be averaging around 4 TO/game.

Rose averages WAY more assists/game despite playing on a team full of brick-laying 10th men.

Conclusion: Rose's numbers are more impressive considering the situation he is in. If Rose played on Memphis and if Mayo played on Chicago, here is what the numbers would look like:

Mayo - 18 ppg, 4 rpg, 1.5 apg, 45 FG%
Rose - 22 ppg, 4 rpg, 8.5 apg, 50 FG%

Rose is better than Mayo.

wow did you just make all these numbers up Mayo is only rebounding the ball 4.2 rpg and rose 3.9 rpg

also Mayo is not 6'5 mayo is 6'3 barefoot rose is 6'1.5 barefoot and when they wear shoes Rose shoes gives him more heigh alot of high im almost assume that there are 2in soles+ the ankle braces and socks make him virtually the same height as mayo out on the court

just look at this picture they are side by side standing up straight mayo is barely any taller than rose


right now rose is shooting 47.6% to Mayos 47.2% and mayos true shooting percentage accoriding to John Hollinger is

Mayos True Shooting Percentage is 57.1%
Roses True Shooting Percentage is 52.8%

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/rookies/rankings

[loot]

TS% is helped by having teammates who can score on their own. This is why Mayo's is higher than Rose's. It's also why TS% is a useless stat.

The most important stat you need to look at is Mayo's 2.7 apg. With stars like Rudy Gay and Marc Gasol and sharpshooters like Mike Conley, Mayo should be averaging at least 4.5 apg.

Rose is averaging a ridiculous 6.3 apg with garbage like Luol Deng, Larry Hughes, Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah.
What makes Gasol a 'star' and Deng/Gooden/Hughes garbage? Exactly?

And Conley... a sharpshooter


wait... CONLEY a SHARPSHOOTER\


:roll:


you really only watch kobe and rose play dont you?

[loot]

With stars like Rudy Gay and Marc Gasol and sharpshooters like Mike Conley, Mayo should be averaging at least 4.5 apg.

and then....

Go away.

... Don't comment on players you know nothing about.

:roll: :roll:

[lilojmayo]

TS% is helped by having teammates who can score on their own. This is why Mayo's is higher than Rose's. It's also why TS% is a useless stat.

The most important stat you need to look at is Mayo's 2.7 apg. With stars like Rudy Gay and Marc Gasol and sharpshooters like Mike Conley, Mayo should be averaging at least 4.5 apg.

Rose is averaging a ridiculous 6.3 apg with garbage like Luol Deng, Larry Hughes, Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah.

no true shooting pecentage is literally want it says its your true shooting percentage that means you can compare how big men shoot to guards

it has nothing to do with your teammates its all on you if i was at my house icould post the formula

i

[lilojmayo]

After both having a good game against top 3 talents at their position Rose against Williams and Mayo against Kobe


they both played well but

SG>PG so OJ

[ChiBulls7]

After both having a good game against top 3 talents at their position Rose against Williams and Mayo against Kobe


they both played well but

SG>PG so OJ


Yeah? :oldlol:

[jjayfive]

i like Rose.... but mayo has the better offensive game.... point guards are hard to come by...

[rocky2]

I'm a USC fan but i got to go with Rose, he is a better overall player, and the point guard is the most important position in the NBA nowadays...OJ could definitely be an elite scorer in the league thoug

[Big Al All day]

After both having a good game against top 3 talents at their position Rose against Williams and Mayo against Kobe


they both played well but

SG>PG so OJ

ugh.....:rolleyes: . rose every day of the week.

[lilojmayo]

Bryant is a fan of Mayo. "I think he's terrific," Bryant said. "I've worked out with him and he's the total package. He's going to be a star in this league."

(Yahoo! Sports)

well we all know who kobe would pick

[Big Al All day]

once again :rolleyes: . has anybody even asked Kobe what he thinks of Rose? Just because he said Mayo is good doesn't mean that he would go with him.

[donxcore]

Rose is quick, but Mayo in my opinion is potentially betterr. his game is somewhat similar to Kobe's.. He knocked down 2 threes in wade's face lol not to mention one in kobe's. i could see this guy developing mid range fade aways.. unstoppable!

[lilojmayo]

Rose is quick, but Mayo in my opinion is potentially betterr. his game is somewhat similar to Kobe's.. He knocked down 2 threes in wade's face lol not to mention one in kobe's. i could see this guy developing mid range fade aways.. unstoppable!

yeah i would like to C mayo expand his game into the midrange post up because i think he can do some serious damage there because of how good his jump shot is. especially when mayo plays pg. He relys on his outside shot to much even tho he has been wet from there this whole season he is currently shooting 41.4% 3pt line.

Mayo needs to find a way to get to the line also, he isnt getting that many calls that wade or kobe would get when he gets hacked going to the line but he needs to keep attacking.

Teams have realized that him and gay are the only ones that can do anytime productive on the grizzlies so anytime gay gets the ball they double him immmediately and when OJ gets the ball there are 4 guys in a box zone like a box and 1 waiting if mayo drives because they know conley can shoot to save his life.

if Mayo starts posting up he will be able to get the line more.

[Big Al All day]

Maybe if he posts up against C's and Pf's, you rarely see guys get fouled when they post up from mid. And why the hell would he even try to post up in the paint. He needs to drive to the hoop and learn how to get calls. ( exagerate contact, flop, create contact etc.) That's what kobe and Wade do.

[Human Error]

Lots of retarded arguments here. Unbelievable.

SG > PG? :oldlol:

Mike Conley is a sharpshooter and Marc Gasol is star? :oldlol:

Luol Deng is a garbage while Marc Gasol is a star?

Just die, idiots. :roll:

[veilside23]

one on one id take mayo... but if i have a team id pick rose first.

[FindingTim]

im baffled by all this Mayo love. IMO, there is a clear answer to this question. Rose is a total game changer; his impact on a game is far greater than Mayo.

[KeylessEntry]

Hard to say, I think they are very close in general skill and value right now, but based on what I have seen so far this season I have to pick Mayo.

[brandonislegend]

people saying rose easily just shows they have never watched 1 memphis game.

[dware94]

rose, no question

[lilojmayo]

people saying rose easily just shows they have never watched 1 memphis game.

gay and mayo are playing so well of late our only problem is WE DONT HAVE A PG AND OUR BIGS CANT STOP ANY BIGS FOR SHYT

cant wait we need jennings or rubio

Chi Town record is only like 13-15 last time i checked memphis is 9-19 so so far rose has a 4 game lead on mayo while rose had a 11+ game advantage from last year

[basketballdude]

OJ all day everyday. Mayo needs to work on his turnovers though. He's been coughin' it up crazy as of late.

[lilojmayo]

BUMP

today Mayo had 18pts 8rebs 7 assist and he pretty much had the game winning play amazing shows his intelligence reminded me of magic johnson throwing the ball to the other end of the court so they couldnt foul him.

WATCH IT ON sportscenter tonight

rose on the other had 10pts 5 Tos


Mayo Now Mayo Tomorrow Mayo Forever

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

OJ all day everyday. Mayo needs to work on his turnovers though. He's been coughin' it up crazy as of late.

OJ Mayo easily, this shouldn't even be a thread.

The thing that scares me is he is just going to keep getting better.

[Dengness9]

OJ Mayo easily, this shouldn't even be a thread.

The thing that scares me is he is just going to keep getting better.


Your name is probably one of the gayest things i have ever heard. I'm not even trying to be funny right now. Pathetic.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Your name is probably one of the gayest things i have ever heard. I'm not even trying to be funny right now. Pathetic.

name= truth.

[Dengness9]

Is OJ gonna do that gay poo butt ****** scowl face too?

[Meticode]

Everyone welcome lilojmayo back to the board. Now know has O.J. A 6'4Mamba

[Batman]

Everyone welcome lilojmayo back to the board. Now know has O.J. A 6'4Mamba

His name isn't banned why doesn't he just post on his lilojmayo name if he is truly back. It makes no sense somebody who has build his name to where people copy his "lil all lower case player name" would be posting on it on an everday basis. Not hiding behind accounts.

Also if you go on the grizzlies forum section they are a couple oj mayo type of names. OJMayoDaFuture comes to mind right away.

I'll take Rose to answer the OP's question.

[CaNt Be ToUcHeD]

Rose.

[Go Getter]

You do know the last star PG to win a title is Isiah Thomas in 1990 right?


There's this guy named Tony Parker who'd disagree.




And D Wade played a lot of PG when he won his ring too.





Put in my vote for Rose also.

[GreatGreg]

Rose, by far, LOL....

Look at what both players accomplished for their team...

[GreatGreg]

BUMP

today Mayo had 18pts 8rebs 7 assist and he pretty much had the game winning play amazing shows his intelligence reminded me of magic johnson throwing the ball to the other end of the court so they couldnt foul him.

WATCH IT ON sportscenter tonight

rose on the other had 10pts 5 Tos


Mayo Now Mayo Tomorrow Mayo Forever
Uhhh your avatar makes you look like a butthurt emo. just saying.

[23ajay]

definitly rose

[Tuvi]

Taking Mayo on this one but not by very much

[FIXED]

Taking Mayo on this one but not by very much

Mayo.

[Connoisseur]

I'll take Rose to run a team.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Ovinton Mayo

[Bcogswell]

This is a joke straight and simple.

Just like David Thorpe said in a chat wrap on ESPN recently... when asked this same question.

"Rose yesterday. Rose today. Rose tomorrow."


Oj Mayo better than Derrick Rose... please.

Wait til Rose has an all-star post scorer like Deron or CP3 and see what that does for his game. ****, wait til he gets an all-star PERIOD.

The difference between them is that Rose needs someone to score once he gets them the ball. Mayo doesn't need anyone to get him the ball to score, although if he actually had a PG to get him the ball.. think of how much easier it would be for him to put up big numbers, compared to the numbers he put up last year doing it all himself(Which were still great).

[GreatGreg]

Rose. anyone who says otherwise should be slapped in the face.

[Maniak]

Rose. anyone who says otherwise should be slapped in the face.
I just slapped myself for you.

[ThatBigBlackGuy]

The one who led their team to the playoffs.

[D-Rose]

The one who led their team to the playoffs.
Oh you mean the one in the weaker conference with the better teammates?

come on, I would take Rose as well but that's a dumb reason.

[ThatBigBlackGuy]

Oh you mean the one in the weaker conference with the better teammates?

come on, I would take Rose as well but that's a dumb reason.
I'd love to hear reasons. Ok, smart mouth. The one who set a record for the most scored points in their 1st playoff game, Is that good enough for you?

[D-Rose]

I'd love to hear reasons. Ok, smart mouth. The one who set a record for the most scored points in their 1st playoff game, Is that good enough for you?
How about something like Rose is a better passer and has a better FG% and his scoring isn't off by much either.

[liljohnnywall]

Neither. John Wall is better than both OJ Mayo and Derrick Rose by a mile.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Neither. John Wall is better than both OJ Mayo and Derrick Rose by a mile.

Biggest Fail Post of the Year. OJ Mayo would eat John Wall up whole.

[lpublic_enemyl]

definitely rose

[xOShakespearexO]

i like Mayo alot more.

[tedloc]

i'd go with oj....

everyone is so high on rose, and i've seen a couple sc highlights that were sick but in the two games against portland he didn't look very good

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

mayo

[bagelred]

So true.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

This really isn't a debate anymore. OJ Mayo has taken his game to a new level. You can't say that about Derrick Rose.