Ask me about a supplement- Sports Nutrition, libido, anything,I'll give you the goods

[hateraid]

After doing an annual line revue for GNC there's alot I learned in this industry. The credibilty of some products are completely shot and advertising has more to do what people buy then what is actually good. Also impact products don't neccessarily mean better, ex-Superpump 250. High caffine, lower NO levels.
Also this is not to boost the good name of GNC, I'll even be honest with my products, just giving my fellow posters here a good consumer report so they know what they're getting into. Where you purchase in the end makes no difference to me.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Say my girl is a very prude, conservative 50s-ish blonde-haired blue-eyed Churchgirl who vows now to break her vow of chastity until a year after marriage.

Hypothetically.. would a meal of oysters, *insert choice of a la carte here*, redwine, and chocolate cake for dessert provide for a sexual opportunity?


Also does consuming large amounts of Whey Protein for about three months, and laying off for six, (granted macros are reached) lead to muscle loss?

[rufuspaul]

What products are endorsed by A-rod?

[bada bing]

can u like talk to me about fat burners? hydroxy? are these helpful? a friend used it and he has lost a lot of weight...he use to be big but now is pretty cut overall. He works out a lot though iwth it. good thing? bad thing? use it while you work out? or helpful without working out as well?

[ihatetimthomas]

Ive taken a few months off at the gym due to a back injury. I am finally getting my strength back and am going to get back into the routine. What in your opinion is the best line of creatine that you have come across? Is there a supplement to use when you are getting back into the rhythm? I know there are joint pills to take, but are there other injury prevention supplements?

[hateraid]

Say my girl is a very prude, conservative 50s-ish blonde-haired blue-eyed Churchgirl who vows now to break her vow of chastity until a year after marriage.

Hypothetically.. would a meal of oysters, *insert choice of a la carte here*, redwine, and chocolate cake for dessert provide for a sexual opportunity?




Oysters are more of a male libido enhancer and red wine is for vasodialation. This will give a good hardon for you but will have little effect on your honey, other than get her drunk.
Chocolate stimulates the same part of the brain as sex. So in turn it's an alternative, not an enhancer.



Also does consuming large amounts of Whey Protein for about three months, and laying off for six, (granted macros are reached) lead to muscle loss?

If you are consuming the same amount in replacement, not at all. Remember this, when prtotein is fully metabolized your body will distinguish it no differently from a fish, chicken, egg, or any other source of protein. Only differences are how complete the amino acid profile is and the speed it absorbs. Other by weight, no difference.

[hateraid]

What products are endorsed by A-rod?

None sold by us.

Although we were talking about this in the office and he did reference GNC as a place he bought suppy's from. Any press is good press right?

[hito da god]

what would you recommend for building lean muscle mass?

[boozehound]

what can you tell me about Bilo? It sounds like it works

[ALBballer]

I started at around 208+ lbs on January 1st and I weigh around 196 now (I'm around 5'11" btw) and I don't really monitor what I eat. I try to have protein in each of my meals and avoid carbs after 5.

I do have some energy pills, but I'm trying to lose weight naturally. I'm thinking of getting to 170 or so and bulk up and stay around 180.

Thoughts?

[hateraid]

Ive taken a few months off at the gym due to a back injury. I am finally getting my strength back and am going to get back into the routine. What in your opinion is the best line of creatine that you have come across?


We actually came out with a product called Amplified creatine. It's a creatine monohydrate bonded to a hydrochloride molecule. This acts as a buffer to prevent high acidity and better absorption. It also is mixed with glycol, a very high glycemic sugar. You body will process this immediately and efficiently. Because of the nature of this product Only .625 grams of creatine per serving as opposed to 5 grams in regular products. This means less waste products and less bloating. We also shelled out big bucks to get this clinically proven. Maybe only 5% of products out there have actually clinical research.

Others I endorse for strictly creatine- Dymatize expand, purple K


Is there a supplement to use when you are getting back into the rhythm?

Preworkouts are a good choice. Although it's still technically a creatine product, it's in a different category. While creatine is best post workout, these supplements are pre. They contain NO boosters, stimulants both adrenal and cognitive. I'm a fan of Armeggedon by Star Chem labs. Rememeber, protein is the most important. 80% of results come from repair and regeneration.



I know there are joint pills to take, but are there other injury prevention supplements?


For your joints take glucosamine. It's the base compound in which cartiledge is made from. It also increases senovial fuild, the fluid around your joints.
Omega 3's from fish or flax may also work as a joint lubricator. That and it's a natural anti-imflammatory.

[hateraid]

what can you tell me about Bilo? It sounds like it works


You mean the supermarket? Never heard of it as a product.

[hateraid]

Are you going to answer my question?:pimp:


Lol, well he said he bought Ripped Fuel from GNC but the product you're refering to is Primobolan. It's a milder steroid that has both oral and injectable use.

[hateraid]

what would you recommend for building lean muscle mass?


Really hito, at the end of the day it's all food. Firts I'd recommend aquiring 1 gram per pound of bodyweight in terms of protein. Now due to the nature of protein and the fact that it consumes alot of fuel to convert protein to muscle you have to at least acquire a 1:1 ratio of protein to carb. Increasing more carbs will determine size gains.

For supplements there's this new product called Dark Matter by MHP. Not necessarily for bulk but for more efficient protein uptake and nutrtient repleneshment post workout. It uses waxy maize. This may cause an immediate spike in insulin and create a good anabolic window for protein/nutrients to absorb.

[hateraid]

So basically it is impossible to gain inches? Honestly, I've always been intrigued at the thought of being a pornstar. :banana: 9+


Sorry, I thought you were following up as rufus.

Reality is that it's likely length won't increase, but it is possible to increase overall volume. Most products work by increasing erectile chambers. Mostly due to enhancing blood flow with the combination of libido enhancing hormones. Constant flow into this area can have permanent gains. Extenze has been a real good seller for us and I've literally seen return ed satisfied customers (and their girlfriends) return.

[boozehound]

You mean the supermarket? Never heard of it as a product.
I think thats what a rod said his PED was called in the DR.

[hito da god]

So basically it is impossible to gain inches? Honestly, I've always been intrigued at the thought of being a pornstar. :banana: 9+
girth >>> length no homo... according to a lot of women.

[hateraid]

I started at around 208+ lbs on January 1st and I weigh around 196 now (I'm around 5'11" btw) and I don't really monitor what I eat. I try to have protein in each of my meals and avoid carbs after 5.

I do have some energy pills, but I'm trying to lose weight naturally. I'm thinking of getting to 170 or so and bulk up and stay around 180.

Thoughts?


I've quoted the diet part. Firts off it's good you've established realistic goals. I'm in the same boat as you in being an endomorph. Gaining weight easily. I like cutting up first then gaining muscle size.
Two words, consistancy and patients. Smaller meals more frequent, have more protein than carbs overall and choose high +lowglycemic in the morning/afternoon and low mainly at night.
I do endorse energy pills if you keep in mind that results are a product of the consistancy.

[hateraid]

I think thats what a rod said his PED was called in the DR.


Primobolan. Weaker steroid. I don't endorse "alernative supplements" but there are better ones out there.

[hateraid]

haha ok thanks


Lol, had to giggle. Wasn't too uncomfortable was it?

[hito da god]

Really hito, at the end of the day it's all food. Firts I'd recommend aquiring 1 gram per pound of bodyweight in terms of protein. Now due to the nature of protein and the fact that it consumes alot of fuel to convert protein to muscle you have to at least acquire a 1:1 ratio of protein to carb. Increasing more carbs will determine size gains.

For supplements there's this new product called Dark Matter by MHP. Not necessarily for bulk but for more efficient protein uptake and nutrtient repleneshment post workout. It uses waxy maize. This may cause an immediate spike in insulin and create a good anabolic window for protein/nutrients to absorb.
thanks, i'll check dark matter out soon. i've been getting more food into my diet and have been seeing a slow and steady increase in size, but i would definitely like more of a boost.

[hateraid]

thanks, i'll check dark matter out soon. i've been getting more food into my diet and have been seeing a slow and steady increase in size, but i would definitely like more of a boost.


Increase more low glycemic carbs. Simple formula: Calorie intake:Energy deficit. Eat more food than your body can burn. Low glycemic carbs and 1:1 protein grams to body weight ratio.

[mrpuente]

Are diet pills safe?

[hateraid]

Are diet pills safe?


If taken responsibly, you're a normal healthy person, and buying it from a legitamate business than absolutely. always read any disclaimers though.

[mrpuente]

If taken responsibly, you're a normal healthy person, and buying it from a legitamate business than absolutely. always read any disclaimers though.
yeh I also gain weight pretty easy. Im 5'11 and at 200 right now and wanna lose about 20 by about April. I just cant stop drinking alcohol.

Also what diet pill would you recommend?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I just purchased Hexaghen and arimatest...got any info on these products?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Sorry, I thought you were following up as rufus.

Reality is that it's likely length won't increase, but it is possible to increase overall volume. Most products work by increasing erectile chambers. Mostly due to enhancing blood flow with the combination of libido enhancing hormones. Constant flow into this area can have permanent gains. Extenze has been a real good seller for us and I've literally seen return ed satisfied customers (and their girlfriends) return.

dont them kinds of things give u problems in the long run? such as an increase in cancer and so on. i seen some report a week or 2 ago indicating what i am saying.

[hateraid]

I just purchased Hexaghen and arimatest...got any info on these products?

I wasn't around when these products were developed but I did hear alot was invested into making them. Most companies (not naming any names) just put a shyt mix together, send the formula to a manufacturing facilty and voila, product on the shelf. No research, no nothing. Lots of money was invested into these products for the clinical research and the patent. Arimatest seems to get alot of discredit but hexaghen is more unique and I don't think people underestand it.

IGF-1 presents the most anabolic state in which your body builds muscle. They claim (hexaghen)on this product that not only does it create a state of hypertrophy (muscle volume) but also a state of hyperplasia (physically duplicating more muscle fibres). This entails permanent muscle gains. But in order to acheive and preserve this state you'd have to consume a ton of protein. Also for it to get substantial results you'd likely need to be on this product for a good 3 months. Is it worth the investment? Too inconclusive. The science is there, but the feedback is minimal and society is too impatient to see these results.

[hateraid]

dont them kinds of things give u problems in the long run? such as an increase in cancer and so on. i seen some report a week or 2 ago indicating what i am saying.

Lol, no. They use common herbs such as Ginko, trib, epimedium, and vasodialators like arginine. Perfectly safe.

[glidedrxlr22]

I used to be a GNC employee back in 2000. I know enough about supplements to make educated choices, but alot of the stuff out is hit and miss....as I've come to find out over the past few years. So now I have a question for you...since you are in the biz now...... I want a good, natural test booster. I don't want pro-hormones. I just want something that will give me the strength edge during workouts to get an extra 1-3 reps in all my moves. What works? I've tried Trib and other assorted products of a similar nature...minimal results.

[i seen hippos]

Forgive me if this has been asked before. Is creatine worth taking if you're serious about building mass. I take the usual supplements and have definition, but I'm lanky. Should I wait longer with the basic supplements I take now or is it fine to take creatine as well?

I've been working out for about 6 months, but have been taking it quite seriously for about a month and a half.

[hateraid]

I used to be a GNC employee back in 2000. I know enough about supplements to make educated choices, but alot of the stuff out is hit and miss....as I've come to find out over the past few years. So now I have a question for you...since you are in the biz now...... I want a good, natural test booster. I don't want pro-hormones. I just want something that will give me the strength edge during workouts to get an extra 1-3 reps in all my moves. What works? I've tried Trib and other assorted products of a similar nature...minimal results.


I started in 2002 so were not that far off, although the industry has evolved more in the last 5 years than the previous 15 years combined.

When taking any test boosters I usually determine age first. Pre 28 doens't really do anything since test is at it's peak. A test booster only enhances speed/efficiency of production, not amount. I'd say you'd get more results in strength with a good preworkout.
Second, a good test boost first ingredient should be tibulus. But even moreso look for the standardized amount of protodyacin. Protodyacin is the active compound that stimulates test production. A 40% standardize is top notch. Products like ISA test, Axis labs are standardized to 40%. Most are 20% or less.

[Hawker]

What can you tell me about Adralin?

[Smokee]

Whats the closest thing i can take to steroids that i can easily buy(from GNC lets say) with the least side effects? and what are they?

Do weight loss supplements really work? And are there any that aren't bad for you?

[hateraid]

Forgive me if this has been asked before. Is creatine worth taking if you're serious about building mass. I take the usual supplements and have definition, but I'm lanky. Should I wait longer with the basic supplements I take now or is it fine to take creatine as well?

I've been working out for about 6 months, but have been taking it quite seriously for about a month and a half.


Always stick to the basics with nutrition. My analogy I always use when people ask about supplements in that if your body is a house, supplements are the tools. Makes the job faster but you can't build a house without bricks (protein, vitamins).

That being said creatine is converted into ATP by your body. This is a specific fuel your body burns for short bursts of energy. EI- Weightlifting, anarobic and plyometric training. The more ATP your body peaks, the better recovery, the more strength. The more you lift the farther your muscles stretch out. Then faster you repair the better the gains. Creatine also volumizes muscle by retaining it within the muscle fibres. Keep in mind this is only esthetic and not real muscle. But it is benefial for performance benefits.

[hateraid]

What can you tell me about Adralin?

Mood enhancer, energy enhancer, and increases cognitive effect.

This product works on three different levels. Increases seratonin, a hormone responsible for mood balance. It blocks the effect of tryptophan, a nutural sedative found in most amino acid complex with tyrosine, and increases energy with the stimulants. Plus Tyrosine also helps cognitive functions. Better mental clarity and focus.

I'd recommend this over it:

Happy Pills (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001P0Q92M?smid=A1EKCL57ON4R0L&tag=nextag-hpc-delta-20&linkCode=asn)

More nutrients, less stimulants.

[hateraid]

Whats the closest thing i can take to steroids that i can easily buy(from GNC lets say) with the least side effects? and what are they?

Do weight loss supplements really work? And are there any that aren't bad for you?

Sift through the post with test boosters in this thread. Also made reference about weight loss products. And yes all weight loss supplements work, it's all based on expectations.

[glidedrxlr22]

I'd say you'd get more results in strength with a good preworkout.

Don't most pre-workouts have ingredients like guarana that give you the jitters. That type of stuff keeps me up at night even when I take it as early as noon.

[rezznor]

hey hateraid, what brand of protein and creatine do you recommend? i am currently switching back and forth between optimum whey/muscle milk and Xpand/v12

[juglenuts416]

thoughts on NOXplode?

[i seen hippos]

For someone who has never taken either, should I invest in a pre-workout or creatine first? I just take your regular protein powder right now.

[mhg88]

What vitamins and minerals are most important to a powerlifter? Also, are there specific supplements you would recommend for powerlifting? Originally I was into gaining size, but all I care about is relative strength these days. Thanks in advance bro.

[dab0yech0]

For someone who has never taken either, should I invest in a pre-workout or creatine first? I just take your regular protein powder right now.

Im a basketball player so when I lift I only take ON Whey Protein and a multivitamin after wards. During the offseason however, I was taking creatine as well. It all really depends on your goal however. During the offseason I was trying to put on size and muscle so I was taking Universal Nutrition Intra-Aid as my preworkout supplement and then ON Whey, creatine, and a multivitamin post workout. Im sure hateraid can give you more info depending on what your goal is.

[hateraid]

Don't most pre-workouts have ingredients like guarana that give you the jitters. That type of stuff keeps me up at night even when I take it as early as noon.

They use caffine anhydrous.
If you don't like that there's this product by MRI called 24/7. The main product in there in called Eliane which is a highly responsive form of sugar. This creates an insulin like environment for all other nutrients to absorsb. There's some creatine in there for muscle energy, BCAA's for muscle recovery and fat use for fuel, and beta-alanine. A substance that causes unused muscle to work in conjuction with the muscle system working. It does have a stimulant in tyrosine but not the kind that affects the central nervous system and wont keep you up with the jitters.

[dab0yech0]

Hateraid, whens the best time to take your multivitamin? Some other lifters have told me with your biggest meal which should be breakfast, some say the meal before you lift, and others say with your shake post workout.

[Rojogaqu11]

Hey thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge. It seems you know a lot and I felt compelled to ask you for advice.

I'm 25 years old male. Most of my life I've been underweight. Not really skinny but you know, not really strong or fit looking haha. I'm 5'11" and weight about 140 right now. The most I've weighed is 150 and that was when I was about 19 and played a lot of basketball and soccer, and I was in great shape, at least my conditioning was great.
I stopped playing sports a few years ago and now that I'm a little older, I've noticed that I'm putting on fat around my waist and becoming flabby, but I'm still skinny haha. I need to get back in shape because if I don't, I'm gonna start looking like an iguana with thin limbs and a fat belly haha.

I have a few questions regarding my eating and sleeping habits.

Does it affect in anyway the time of the day when you work out? Is it better in the morning or the evening? Because I work in the evening, and if I work out after work, then I can't sleep at night. Like today that I didn't even workout and I'm still awake at 4 am.

If I want to gain good weight and get stronger, how much fat and carbs should I eat? Because most of the time I eat a lot of fatty foods, and because I have never been fat, I've never been concerned about it until now, that I can't see my abs anymore, and I'm growing love handles haha. It's not good at all that I'm still skinny and underweight and also a little bit fat haha.

Thanks.

[halffttime]

when should i eat, before or after workout and how long? and ive read 48 hours rest is good after a workout for a specific bodypart, but what if im still a little sore? can i still workout or should i wait it out a bit longer..

[hateraid]

For someone who has never taken either, should I invest in a pre-workout or creatine first? I just take your regular protein powder right now.

Here's a comparison.

Creatine is a Ford Mustang. A Preworkout is the 5.0 version.
A preworkout is the same creatine but with the bells and whistles to improve performance, such as stimulants, Nitric Oxide enhancers, and performance enhancers.
Here's the catch. The ideal time to take creatine is post workout. This is due to having your ATP (stored muscle energy) depleted. While you're at that low ATP state you're also low glucose. This is the perfect environment for your body to replenish. Since a preworkout has all the performance enhancers it's best taken before your workout. Ideally you want both but it all depends on what you want.
In the long run get stronger=regular creatine
Immediate impact=preworkout

[i seen hippos]

Here's a comparison.

Creatine is a Ford Mustang. A Preworkout is the 5.0 version.
A preworkout is the same creatine but with the bells and whistles to improve performance, such as stimulants, Nitric Oxide enhancers, and performance enhancers.
Here's the catch. The ideal time to take creatine is post workout. This is due to having your ATP (stored muscle energy) depleted. While you're at that low ATP state you're also low glucose. This is the perfect environment for your body to replenish. Since a preworkout has all the performance enhancers it's best taken before your workout. Ideally you want both but it all depends on what you want.
In the long run get stronger=regular creatine
Immediate impact=preworkout

Thanks a lot.

[hateraid]

What vitamins and minerals are most important to a powerlifter? Also, are there specific supplements you would recommend for powerlifting? Originally I was into gaining size, but all I care about is relative strength these days. Thanks in advance bro.


Always take a good multi. Have a complete base of nutrition. That goes for anyone who's training in anything. Creatine will really help you. It's actually perfect for your goals. Since powerlifting is really short bursts of energy. I did recommend a product earlier called 24/7 by MRI. Not only will it help peak your ATP, it creates an environment where nutrients can uptake. That and it's the only pre,intra,post workout product out there, hence 24/7. Get your 1:1 protein to bodyweight intake in and I'd suggest 1:3 protein to carb ration since you want lots of fuel and muscle mass.

[Fallguy20]

How do I increse my girls libido without her knowledge...

Its a present for her (and me) that I think she (and myself) would like.

[hateraid]

Hateraid, whens the best time to take your multivitamin? Some other lifters have told me with your biggest meal which should be breakfast, some say the meal before you lift, and others say with your shake post workout.


Before your two biggest meals.This is the information I got during a seminar with a Naturopath named Nelson Narcisso who works for a company called progressive nutrition. Brilliant guy.
Vitmains are desinged to fill the nutritional gaps that you don't get from food. You want it to break down in the same process that your food is being broken down. During that time is where there's the most enzymes and digestive state is optimal. Taking it before also ensures that it doesn't sit on top of your food and go partially undigested.
Remember, this is optimal, not mandatory.

[hateraid]

Hey thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge. It seems you know a lot and I felt compelled to ask you for advice.

I'm 25 years old male. Most of my life I've been underweight. Not really skinny but you know, not really strong or fit looking haha. I'm 5'11" and weight about 140 right now. The most I've weighed is 150 and that was when I was about 19 and played a lot of basketball and soccer, and I was in great shape, at least my conditioning was great.
I stopped playing sports a few years ago and now that I'm a little older, I've noticed that I'm putting on fat around my waist and becoming flabby, but I'm still skinny haha. I need to get back in shape because if I don't, I'm gonna start looking like an iguana with thin limbs and a fat belly haha.

I have a few questions regarding my eating and sleeping habits.



The abdominal fat is most likely stress combined with a poor diet. Yours is the typical body frame. Stress causes an increase in cortisol. This opens up adipotissue (fat storage) in the abdominal area. Stress is cause by these factors- environment, lack of nutrition, lack of sleep. Adress it with this- Multivitamin, exercise, good nutrition, change of environment. Pretty obvious huh? Eat more nutritional fats. Your omega 3-6-9. This will allow your body not to cling onto fat as well as open up the adipotissue to release fat for fuel.


Does it affect in anyway the time of the day when you work out? Is it better in the morning or the evening? Because I work in the evening, and if I work out after work, then I can't sleep at night. Like today that I didn't even workout and I'm still awake at 4 am.

The ideal time is in the afternoon. Your testosterone is at it's peak, your bloods been flowing, and your body has already taken in some nutrients. Try adressing the nutritional parts I've suggested first. Also this may cause your cortisol levels to decrease. That's what might be keeping you up. Have a protein shake w/ glutamine after your workout.
If you absolutely cannot workout then and want to go in the morning then just make sure you have a small preworkout meal. At least get your glucose level up.


If I want to gain good weight and get stronger, how much fat and carbs should I eat? Because most of the time I eat a lot of fatty foods, and because I have never been fat, I've never been concerned about it until now, that I can't see my abs anymore, and I'm growing love handles haha. It's not good at all that I'm still skinny and underweight and also a little bit fat haha.


The ideal meal plan is a 50 carbs-40 protien-10 fats% ratio. First tip. Get rid of your fat. Replace it with good fat. Your carbs should be fibrous and low glycemic, and eat more protein. Get that multivitamin in. Have at least four meals a day and make sure one of them is breakfast. First advice, deal with the stress first.

[bada bing]

are you planning to answer my question? Its on the first page in relation to fat burners.

[hateraid]

How do I increse my girls libido without her knowledge...

Its a present for her (and me) that I think she (and myself) would like.

Dump out a mutlivitamin bottle and fill it with a libido enhancer for women. Tell her it's for her health.


I suggest you buy one for both of you. That way you can say you're trying it together.

[hateraid]

are you planning to answer my question? Its on the first page in relation to fat burners.


Sorry bro, The A-rod question got me frazzled.:cheers:

I fully endorse fat burners under these circumstances:

- They accelerate results, not do them for you.
- They are used responsibly.
- They are used short term. Long term use can deplete adrenals, lower bone density, break down valuable muscle tissue, cause long term obesity.......

I use fat burners all the time when I'm cutting. But I don't depend on that alone. I also mange my diet to the T. They should be used consistantly and not set crazy expectations.

I used to reccomend Redline by MHP but they came out with this new formula called Meltdown. I've just started using it and it's really good. But the ultimate is an ECA sstack. Always take protein though. Protein is a fat burner in itself and it preserves/builds muscle.

Hope this helps.

[DirtBag]

speaking of fat burners, what do you know about hyperdrive 3.0? it used to have another name but I think they had to drop it due to copyright infringement. anyway the lady at GNC (her brother owned the franchise and was able to get certain products that other gnc's couldn't) said she had heard from a customer it was tip top, and that she then tried it and it was indeed tip top. do you know anything about this particular product.

[Rojogaqu11]

Thanks man. Your answer covered more things than I expected.
I'll see what I can buy when I get my tax return, and I'll update you on my progress in the next months, hehe.

[hateraid]

when should i eat, before or after workout and how long? and ive read 48 hours rest is good after a workout for a specific bodypart, but what if im still a little sore? can i still workout or should i wait it out a bit longer..


Before, about an hour. After, you have an anabolic window of half an hour to an hour and a half to take in nutrients for muscle repair. If possible get a good fast absorbing protein supplement as part of your post workout meal.

I got this information from a guy who's trained Jay Cutler. All muscle groups require about 48 hours to repair. The exeptions are abs and calves. The only require 24 hours. I do calves and abs everyday. If you're still sore it could be due to lack of training in that muscle, improper repair, or an injury. Take glutamine. It works wonders for muscle pain.

[hateraid]

speaking of fat burners, what do you know about hyperdrive 3.0? it used to have another name but I think they had to drop it due to copyright infringement. anyway the lady at GNC (her brother owned the franchise and was able to get certain products that other gnc's couldn't) said she had heard from a customer it was tip top, and that she then tried it and it was indeed tip top. do you know anything about this particular product.


It used to be called Venom. The key ingredient in it is a TM called Cocoamine. Loosley translated: shyt mix.
The thing about fat burners is that people have this notion that fat burners only work if you have energy. That not the case. If that were true every coffee drinker in America would be skinny. Venom will give you crazy energy but the propriety blend is not impact enough to really make this a great product.

[hateraid]

thoughts on NOXplode?

The biggest illusion in the industry. Does it give you energy? Yes. Is it a good product? No.
This product uses alot of stimulants. Problem is it is counter productive to the other ingredients in there.

[hateraid]

hateraid, you approve of the eca/ec stack (ephedrine/caffeine)?


Here's the sticky part of my job. Products like these I can't comment on in the stores because we cannot sell them by law. Fact of the matter is they work. If I want garaunteed results I use this. Problem is 95% of users do not use them responsibly and do not know the negative side effects.

Let me list them off:

- depleted adrenals
- Bone density loss
- more profound fat storage when going off
- burning valuable muscle tissue
- irregular heartbeat
- out of whack central nervous system

I do endorse them but do not endorse prolonged use. Cause once you go off them, you'll gain that weight and then some. If you continue using them, you'll be prone to a shortened lifespan.

[brwnman]

If I sip the right amount of hateraid, will it boost my ego to the point where my confidence skyrockets? Thanks in advance...

[hateraid]

If I sip the right amount of hateraid, will it boost my ego to the point where my confidence skyrockets? Thanks in advance...

The proper dosage is about 4 ounces. You should see immediate gains in swagger, style, and supreme confidence. Anything in excess may cause irratabilty and irrationality. This stuff is expensive so I'd suggest to follow the recommended dosage.

Warning: Side affects may include baldness, changing of tone of skin, and sudden man love for Hersey Hawkins

[Norcaliblunt]

What do you know about Ruby Reds drink mix multivitamin?

[hateraid]

What do you know about Ruby Reds drink mix multivitamin?


Any health food mix is a positive. It's nothing unique.

[Ri3tN]

Before, about an hour. After, you have an anabolic window of half an hour to an hour and a half to take in nutrients for muscle repair. If possible get a good fast absorbing protein supplement as part of your post workout meal.

I got this information from a guy who's trained Jay Cutler. All muscle groups require about 48 hours to repair. The exeptions are abs and calves. The only require 24 hours. I do calves and abs everyday. If you're still sore it could be due to lack of training in that muscle, improper repair, or an injury. Take glutamine. It works wonders for muscle pain.

About the 48 hours to repair thing. Is it always 48 hours? What if you only do say 3 sets of something to work a certain muscle. You barely feel sore the next two days, is the muscle still recovering? Then what if you go hard, doing 8 sets, plus other exercises to work out that muscle. Would it still take exactly 48 hours, or does the muscle recovery time depend on how much you worked out ?

[hateraid]

About the 48 hours to repair thing. Is it always 48 hours? What if you only do say 3 sets of something to work a certain muscle. You barely feel sore the next two days, is the muscle still recovering? Then what if you go hard, doing 8 sets, plus other exercises to work out that muscle. Would it still take exactly 48 hours, or does the muscle recovery time depend on how much you worked out ?

Lol, of cousre not "exactly" 48 hours. At least I would say. Sometimes I take 4 days rest from a specific body group.

[hateraid]

side not for you Canadian supplement users.

GNC Canada has inked an exclusivity to a product line called MusclePharm. This is a really unique product which uses a multipack system. I really like this line. Not only that, they signed George St.Pierre to this line. That means by contract, store visits regularily.

[Cannonball]

What supplement should I use to cut fat, but gain muscle mass? Just some walmart protein?

[hateraid]

What supplement should I use to cut fat, but gain muscle mass? Just some walmart protein?

Gaining muscle will always burn fat. But it's near impossible to get ripped and bigger at the same time. Two environments/training sytems that don't work together. I'd stick one goal or the other. It is possible to get bigger and stay relatively lean, but because building muscle mass requires more calories than your body burns it's impossible to get "leaner". Protein is required for both goals. Balancing carbs determine size. More carbs, more size, less carbs, more definition.

[halffttime]

would you consider deadlifts important? how would they benefit me? are they the quickest way to gain muscle mass?

[Cannonball]

Gaining muscle will always burn fat. But it's near impossible to get ripped and bigger at the same time. Two environments/training sytems that don't work together. I'd stick one goal or the other. It is possible to get bigger and stay relatively lean, but because building muscle mass requires more calories than your body burns it's impossible to get "leaner". Protein is required for both goals. Balancing carbs determine size. More carbs, more size, less carbs, more definition.
Gotta cut out some sodas... Is there any type of supplements that help with healing and strengthening joints and tendons? I have pretty weak ankles... Some one told me about some joint thing but I looked and it sounded like it was something for old people...

[hito da god]

would you consider deadlifts important? how would they benefit me? are they the quickest way to gain muscle mass?
deadlifts are great if you want to gain inches on your vertical and a quicker first step.

[halffttime]

deadlifts are great if you want to gain inches on your vertical and a quicker first step.

high intesnity low rep high weights? or high reps low weights? actually i only have up to 110lbs in weight including the bar, and i dont have money to go to the y.. :(

[hateraid]

would you consider deadlifts important? how would they benefit me? are they the quickest way to gain muscle mass?


Any decent leg exercise increases testosterone. But the simple formulation is intake more calories than your body burns.

For training, low reps, heavy weights.

[bk33]

Hi Hater!

I had a shoulder surgery last week, so it'll be months before I can start lifting weights again. I will just be doing cardio in the near future, my goal is to lose fat and fat only. My question is, since I won't be doing any weights at all, is protein a good idea?

Sincerely
BK

[hateraid]

Hi Hater!

I had a shoulder surgery last week, so it'll be months before I can start lifting weights again. I will just be doing cardio in the near future, my goal is to lose fat and fat only. My question is, since I won't be doing any weights at all, is protein a good idea?

Sincerely
BK

Yes, especially if you are trying to burn fat.

Our muscles are always in an catabolic state, meaning muscle breakdown. we want to maintain an anabolic state, muscle building. Protein is the only nutrient that builds muscle. When protein intake occurs you have about a 4 hour anabolic state, of course depending on the type of protein. So protein intake is beneficial to anyone at 4 hour intervals.
Because it requires alot of energy to metabolize protein to muscle, constant protein puts you at an energy defecit. It can take up to 20 calories to metabolize 1 gram of protein. That's five grams of carbs. So if you reduce your carbs, where is your body gonna get this fuel to metabolize protein? Fat storage. Protein is especially important when you're at your most catabolic which is after workout. So yes, always take protein.

[bk33]

cool cool. so one serving right after my cardio session right? Also, I've never taken any supplements before, I know nothing of the brands and whatnot, I see some for $20 and some $50, I'm way to lazy to research and read up, any specific brand/products you can suggest? are "weight gainers" = protein?

some ppl on the local forum are selling them
Ultimate Nutrition ISOMASS XTREME GAINER (https://www.svncanada.com/cart_product.php?id=1280&type=1)
PROTEIN SENSATION 81 (http://www.ultimatenutrition.com/catalog/protein/protein_sensation_81.html)

[PK3434]

Hateraid:

I am a pretty skinny guy. and naturally cut. I am a former college basketball player and off and on since I was 15 up until last year (23), I have been weight training.

Frankly, I don't want to lift weights anymore. I just dont have the energy, and since i dont belong to a gym anymore, I don't have the resources either. Also, i have a whole bunch of other sh** to focus on like work and being a father.

So my question is, can you recommend a way to build muscle at home without lifting weights?? Keep in mind, my body builds up very easily when im lifting, but i get real skinny when im not.

[HisJoeness]

Does saying "Now I'm done" after using EAS products make them work better?







Ok, Now that I've gotten the laughs out of the way here's my question. How difficult do you think it would be for someone 5'9", 200 pounds who lives a somewhat sedentary lifestyle to transition to an incredibly strict 2,000 calorie a say diet combined with a high intensity training regimen like WS4SB (http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/60-westside-for-skinny-bastards-part1.html).

[hateraid]

Hateraid:

I am a pretty skinny guy. and naturally cut. I am a former college basketball player and off and on since I was 15 up until last year (23), I have been weight training.

Frankly, I don't want to lift weights anymore. I just dont have the energy, and since i dont belong to a gym anymore, I don't have the resources either. Also, i have a whole bunch of other sh** to focus on like work and being a father.

So my question is, can you recommend a way to build muscle at home without lifting weights?? Keep in mind, my body builds up very easily when im lifting, but i get real skinny when im not.

http://www.tradevv.com/TradevvImage/productimages/Accept-Paypal-P90X-US-version-high-quality-Extreme-Fitness-Training-System-Brand-New-13DVDs-A317a9.jpg

This is a great system. i know alot of people doing this at home and getting great results. Remember to have a high calorie intake. This system is meant to get you shredded.

[PistolPete]

Best exercise and enhancer to get huge arms??

[tr3bla]

I'm not sure if this was asked yet. My brother is 13 years old and wants to start lifting weights. Is it a myth that lifting weights stunts growth? And are there any precautions to take for lifting at this age?

[dwight20-20]

a friend of mine told me that protein shakes can cause kidney problems because the amount of protein can exceed the bodies needs and capabilities to process it and the excess protein is sent to the kidney.
is this true?

[fiddy]

a friend of mine told me that protein shakes can cause kidney problems because the amount of protein can exceed the bodies needs and capabilities to process it and the excess protein is sent to the kidney.
is this true?
Yup. The excess protein goes straight in the toilet.

[Balla_Status]

a friend of mine told me that protein shakes can cause kidney problems because the amount of protein can exceed the bodies needs and capabilities to process it and the excess protein is sent to the kidney.
is this true?

Yes but the average protein shake has like twenty smoething grams of it per scoop, and you need well over 200 at your weight to even begin to develop problems.

[dwight20-20]

Yes but the average protein shake has like twenty smoething grams of it per scoop, and you need well over 200 at your weight to even begin to develop problems.

ok cool. thanks.

[Balla_Status]

ok cool. thanks.

Dwight you're a tall guy right? What's your diet looking like. If you have a solid foundation of stability and muscle, and keep up the pinpoint shooting, and the footwork drills.. the sky'z the limit.

What you normally eat?

[dwight20-20]

Dwight you're a tall guy right? What's your diet looking like. If you have a solid foundation of stability and muscle, and keep up the pinpoint shooting, and the footwork drills.. the sky'z the limit.

What you normally eat?

Ok i actually need help in my diet. I think breakfast and dinner are hurting me most and i probably dont eat enough times during the day.

Breakfast is around 6:30 am and i have a bowl of cereal(wheaties) with whey protein and some sort of carb blend in milk(im not sure how many scoops, my dad makes it lol)

Then i have lunch at 11:10 am and I have a pb&j, potato chips, triple threat power bar, an apple, and a milk.

I pack an extra pb&j and usually eat that around 3:00 p.m. but sometimes earlier if my teacher lets me eat it in class.

I usually get home from track practice around 5:00 and i think i need to add a small meal in here because dinner doesnt usually start until about 6:00-6:30

My dinners vary, i usually have like steak or chicken with a baked potato and i like to mix in chicken quesadillas. Im almost positive im not getting enough food at dinner time though.

Then before bed i usually have a bowl of ice cream and my whey protein drink again. Should i have another bowl of cereal before bed?

It seems like it takes me several good eating days to bring my weight up and one bad eating day drops it fast. I need help.

[Balla_Status]

Considering you're a soph in high-school, that's really not that bad. Pretty wise.

I remember when I was f*cking obsessed with working out I ate like 2200 calories a day, cuz I only knew about the exercises. Boy vascularity everywhere.

Anyways instead of wheaties you ought to invest in some STEEL-CUT 100% ROLLED OATS QUAKER OATMEAL The carbs will last you the whole day. Good on your father for his support. Try adding banana or apple into the mix. And on days you don't want to drink your shake, eat some scrambled eggs sprinkled with mozzarella and a bit of hot sauce.

Lunch gap is quite long, but I understand, I was in a similar situation. PB/J is good and all, but if you can train your tongue, go for tuna or turkey. Better sources of protein w/o the fat/sugars. Add some lettuce, sliced tomato, cheese to the mix. The other snacks you bring are nice, but if you can replace your potato chips with sunflower seeds or some form of peanuts/walnuts/beans, then that'd be excelelnt.

PB/J an hour before track is P.E.R.F.E.C.T. Stick with that at 3:00.
Bust your a$$ everyday in practice, focus on speed, conversate with your friends, and eat your shake in the car if you can.

Dinner sounds good. Chicken quesadillas are awesome but you want some fibrous vegetables to support digestion. Seomthang like broccoli or yams, but potatoes are good too.

Invest in some cottage cheese, or more oatmeal at night. Lots of milk is good, and yeah whey too. Overall, your timing is not bad at all, but just fine-tune and you should be set.

[dwight20-20]

Considering you're a soph in high-school, that's really not that bad. Pretty wise.

I remember when I was f*cking obsessed with working out I ate like 2200 calories a day, cuz I only knew about the exercises. Boy vascularity everywhere.

Anyways instead of wheaties you ought to invest in some STEEL-CUT 100% ROLLED OATS QUAKER OATMEAL The carbs will last you the whole day. Good on your father for his support. Try adding banana or apple into the mix. And on days you don't want to drink your shake, eat some scrambled eggs sprinkled with mozzarella and a bit of hot sauce.

Lunch gap is quite long, but I understand, I was in a similar situation. PB/J is good and all, but if you can train your tongue, go for tuna or turkey. Better sources of protein w/o the fat/sugars. Add some lettuce, sliced tomato, cheese to the mix. The other snacks you bring are nice, but if you can replace your potato chips with sunflower seeds or some form of peanuts/walnuts/beans, then that'd be excelelnt.

PB/J an hour before track is P.E.R.F.E.C.T. Stick with that at 3:00.
Bust your a$$ everyday in practice, focus on speed, conversate with your friends, and eat your shake in the car if you can.

Dinner sounds good. Chicken quesadillas are awesome but you want some fibrous vegetables to support digestion. Seomthang like broccoli or yams, but potatoes are good too.

Invest in some cottage cheese, or more oatmeal at night. Lots of milk is good, and yeah whey too. Overall, your timing is not bad at all, but just fine-tune and you should be set.

ok thanks, all of that advice is great. Once i put on some weight, ill be a beast, because i feel like thats all that is holding me back right now.

[halffttime]

I'm gonna start doing cardio 30 minutes to an hour, 5 days a week, and some vertical jump bible.. I'm at 180 right now, and I want to drop around 20lbs and get hard (no homo).. How much calories should i be taking in a day? and what kind of food should I be eating and staying away from? I want to reach 160 by june.. thanks :rolleyes:

[fiddy]

I'm gonna start doing cardio 30 minutes to an hour, 5 days a week, and some vertical jump bible.. I'm at 180 right now, and I want to drop around 20lbs and get hard (no homo).. How much calories should i be taking in a day? and what kind of food should I be eating and staying away from? I want to reach 160 by june.. thanks :rolleyes:
Doing cardio over 40 minute increases the risk of loosing muscle. Dont do more than 40 minutes. How tall are you? Eat more chicken and rise.

[Bevan]

Consuming sports nutrition supplements is useful in gaining stamina and muscles but one has to be very careful while selecting the supplements. There are supplements which contains more amount of amino acids, this can cause diarrhea or stomach cramping and can rank from mild to severe pain.

[hateraid]

Consuming sports nutrition supplements is useful in gaining stamina and muscles but one has to be very careful while selecting the supplements. There are supplements which contains more amount of amino acids, this can cause diarrhea or stomach cramping and can rank from mild to severe pain.


Depends on which ones. Are you talking an amino acid complex or a free form single amino? Huge differences. Also what dosages are you taking?

BTW, I'm intrigued that you made this your first post and why you chose this thread. After all this is a basketball site and this thread is very old

[Sarcastic]

Which supplements do you recommend for pre and post workouts?

[Maga_1]

Hateraid, i'm going to practice now but i will be back around 6 pm to talk with you about this.

[blunt]

what about force factor? derrick rose endores it and it seems like its a legit pre workout supplement

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm gonna start doing cardio 30 minutes to an hour, 5 days a week, and some vertical jump bible.. I'm at 180 right now, and I want to drop around 20lbs and get hard (no homo).. How much calories should i be taking in a day? and what kind of food should I be eating and staying away from? I want to reach 160 by june.. thanks :rolleyes:

160 sounds way too thin. How tall are you?? I would put on 20 pounds though but of lean muscle. If you're around 6 feet tall or taller, you should really be around 195-205 if you want to be lean and built.

[hateraid]

Which supplements do you recommend for pre and post workouts?

Right now I got to be partial because I work for both companies are Xpand Xtreme and BPI 1MR. 1MR has really taken off and is a ridonkulous energy supplement. Xpand is the technically better one. If you want to get trashed I say VXNs Anarchy.
Post workout always, ALWAYS have protein, but always conform to your goals. If you want to enhance protein uptake maybe take a little waxymaize after workout and then protein half an hour after. Depending on your goal, if it's weight gain then add more carbs or a good leanmassgainer. If it's for more definition then a lower carb supplement.
my company developed a full spectrum postworkout. All in impact ingredient amounts:
16 gr protein
Ajipure BCAA's
Ajipure Glutamine
Waxymaize
Creatine

It's called Xpand Post which we are launching next month. Look for it!

[hateraid]

what about force factor? derrick rose endores it and it seems like its a legit pre workout supplement

I just looked it up. I never heard of it. It looks eerily similar to GNC Pro performance line. I wouldn't doubt that GNC makes it for them. If so it could be a great brand as I do stand behind their products.

[Sarcastic]

Right now I got to be partial because I work for both companies are Xpand Xtreme and BPI 1MR. 1MR has really taken off and is a ridonkulous energy supplement. Xpand is the technically better one. If you want to get trashed I say VXNs Anarchy.
Post workout always, ALWAYS have protein, but always conform to your goals. If you want to enhance protein uptake maybe take a little waxymaize after workout and then protein half an hour after. Depending on your goal, if it's weight gain then add more carbs or a good leanmassgainer. If it's for more definition then a lower carb supplement.
my company developed a full spectrum postworkout. All in impact ingredient amounts:
16 gr protein
Ajipure BCAA's
Ajipure Glutamine
Waxymaize
Creatine

It's called Xpand Post which we are launching next month. Look for it!

Thank you. I will look into all of these.

[Bevan]

Depends on which ones. Are you talking an amino acid complex or a free form single amino? Huge differences. Also what dosages are you taking?

BTW, I'm intrigued that you made this your first post and why you chose this thread. After all this is a basketball site and this thread is very old


If you take supplements rich in Amino acid complex on a daily basis may cause diarrhea or stomach cramping. Not all supplements contain amino acid complex and hence be careful while selecting the supplements.

[bada bing]

i want to lose weight via eating less/healthy. I dont have a lot of time for workouts. Can you comment on fat burners and how well they work?

[hateraid]

If you take supplements rich in Amino acid complex on a daily basis may cause diarrhea or stomach cramping. Not all supplements contain amino acid complex and hence be careful while selecting the supplements.

Doesn't answer either of my questions.
I'll pose it again


Depends on which ones. Are you talking an amino acid complex or a free form single amino? Huge differences. Also what dosages are you taking?

BTW, I'm intrigued that you made this your first post and why you chose this thread. After all this is a basketball site and this thread is very old

[hateraid]

i want to lose weight via eating less/healthy. I dont have a lot of time for workouts. Can you comment on fat burners and how well they work?

To be perfectly honest if you ate healthy you wouldn't need a weight loss pill

[dab0yech0]

Hey Hateraid, I was using BSN NO-Xplode preworkout and I got really good lifts in and was able to increase in all aspects of lifting but I noticed everytime I use it I would get huge headaches and crashes after I finished my workout. I would use sometimes only half a serving and I'd still get headaches and crashes. I don't use it everyday, maybe every other day.

Is there any preworkout supplements you recommend? Everyone recommends Jacked. What do you think of that product?

[Rizko]

I haven't read this thread so you might have answered it, but can you put me in the right direction for proper nutrition in diets and whatever. I mean I understand the basics of healthy eating, but I was wondering if you had any literature that can help me learn the more in-depth details on how to eat (specifically what types of food you need to eat to lose weight.) I know lowering my caloric intake would do that, but I'm not sure about how else that would effect me.

I don't know if I worded that right at all, but any help would be appreciated.

[hateraid]

Hey Hateraid, I was using BSN NO-Xplode preworkout and I got really good lifts in and was able to increase in all aspects of lifting but I noticed everytime I use it I would get huge headaches and crashes after I finished my workout. I would use sometimes only half a serving and I'd still get headaches and crashes. I don't use it everyday, maybe every other day.

Is there any preworkout supplements you recommend? Everyone recommends Jacked. What do you think of that product?

I would use 1MR over jack3d in the concetrate category. 3 scoops of jack3d is = to 1 scoop of 1MR. I work for BPI as well so I stand by thier credibility

[hateraid]

I haven't read this thread so you might have answered it, but can you put me in the right direction for proper nutrition in diets and whatever. I mean I understand the basics of healthy eating, but I was wondering if you had any literature that can help me learn the more in-depth details on how to eat (specifically what types of food you need to eat to lose weight.) I know lowering my caloric intake would do that, but I'm not sure about how else that would effect me.

I don't know if I worded that right at all, but any help would be appreciated.

you don't have to lower your caloric intake to lose weight. You just got to modify it.
The main dietary changes:
- Balance your macronutrients
- Eat at the proper times

it doesn't require you to eat less.

here's a link to a good table of value chart

http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart1.html

Balance your diet to 40 gr portein, 50 gr carbs, and 10% essential fat. eat 4-6 times aday, always having breakfast and not eating past 7:00 PM, and your carb sources should be low glycemic, fibrous carbs

[Rizko]

you don't have to lower your caloric intake to lose weight. You just got to modify it.
The main dietary changes:
- Balance your macronutrients
- Eat at the proper times

it doesn't require you to eat less.

here's a link to a good table of value chart

http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart1.html

Balance your diet to 40 gr portein, 50 gr carbs, and 10% essential fat. eat 4-6 times aday, always having breakfast and not eating past 7:00 PM, and your carb sources should be low glycemic, fibrous carbs
Thank you very much :cheers: I'll give that a look.

[Snoop_Cat]

Hey hateraid,

I'm a college student so budget's kinda tight. What would you say is the most cost effective protein/serving product out there. I suppose I'm looking for whey since I'm trying to bulk up a bit but I don't have much time for cardio so I'd rather not take fattier things like creatine (assuming that statement is even correct lol).
I'm willing to spend upwards around 50/60 but preferably in the 40-50 range.

Thanks!

[hateraid]

Hey hateraid,

I'm a college student so budget's kinda tight. What would you say is the most cost effective protein/serving product out there. I suppose I'm looking for whey since I'm trying to bulk up a bit but I don't have much time for cardio so I'd rather not take fattier things like creatine (assuming that statement is even correct lol).
I'm willing to spend upwards around 50/60 but preferably in the 40-50 range.

Thanks!

Invest in a good multi. Also a good meal replacement should cost you between 3-40 for a good 20 servings. I had recommended the Fusion 7 to someone. 23 gr protein, 11 gr carbs, 5 gr fibre, 6 gr fat. Tastes good and can replace meals. Good all round protein supplement. I use it.

[Snoop_Cat]

Invest in a good multi. Also a good meal replacement should cost you between 3-40 for a good 20 servings. I had recommended the Fusion 7 to someone. 23 gr protein, 11 gr carbs, 5 gr fibre, 6 gr fat. Tastes good and can replace meals. Good all round protein supplement. I use it.

Would 11g carbs and 6g fat be considered a lot? Due to food options here, nearly all my meals consist of one of the following: hero/sub, sushi, breakfast foods, microwavable stuff, pasta, sandwiches, chicken and rice... largely carb heavy things. Taste is no biggie to me, would there be a cheap, protein and maybe fiber intensive product that isn't high on other stuff?

[hateraid]

Would 11g carbs and 6g fat be considered a lot? Due to food options here, nearly all my meals consist of one of the following: hero/sub, sushi, breakfast foods, microwavable stuff, pasta, sandwiches, chicken and rice... largely carb heavy things. Taste is no biggie to me, would there be a cheap, protein and maybe fiber intensive product that isn't high on other stuff?

Not alot if it's good carbs and fats. The recommended intake of good fats is between 20-30 grams daily based on caloric intake.
You eat alot of starchy high glycemic crbs my friend! I guess the easiest thing would be to see if you can convert all the foods you eat into whole grain source ei- whole grain pasta, brown rice with chicken, etc....
On a student budget I know that's hard. Try and aleast get the multi and maybe a good EFA supplement to have a good basis. The protein I recommended is legit and would be better than consuming your microwavable food.

[Poodle]

whats the closest thing to steroids i can buy otc?

[Sarcastic]

whats the closest thing to steroids i can buy otc?

I think andro.

[hateraid]

I think andro.

Andro can't be purchased OTC

I'd probably say Arimidex and any test booster with testofen. But it doesn't come close. But if used properly you can see some significant gains

[Maga_1]

Hateraid, i need your help.
I'm too skinny to play at the level that i am now, most of my plays are made by running faster that the other guys but i need to put some height to finish in traffic.
I'm that kind of guy that eats a lot, but i don't gain height. My coach says that my metabolism is too fast.

[bdreason]

Hateraid what would you recommend taking to help physically recover from day to day? My current schedule is wearing me down.

Monday - V-Ball and BJJ
Tuesday - Basketball and free weights
Wednesday - V-Ball and BJJ
Thursday - Basketball and free weights
Friday - V-Ball

Weekends I work and rest.


I could takes days off, but I'd rather not. I've had a similar sports schedule most my life, but at my age (29) its hard to recover day to day. I usually just play sore or tired if I have to.

[PistonsFan#21]

Hey Hateraid. What is your favorite preworkout supplement in terms of effectiveness?

[Patrick Chewing]

Hey hateraid,

I'm a college student so budget's kinda tight. What would you say is the most cost effective protein/serving product out there. I suppose I'm looking for whey since I'm trying to bulk up a bit but I don't have much time for cardio so I'd rather not take fattier things like creatine (assuming that statement is even correct lol).
I'm willing to spend upwards around 50/60 but preferably in the 40-50 range.

Thanks!

If cost is a big factor, try looking into Soy Protein as well. Very cheap and effective if taken properly. If you want to go the route of Whey, then don't step foot in a GNC or any supplement store for that matter. Buy online. Always.

[hateraid]

Hateraid, i need your help.
I'm too skinny to play at the level that i am now, most of my plays are made by running faster that the other guys but i need to put some height to finish in traffic.
I'm that kind of guy that eats a lot, but i don't gain height. My coach says that my metabolism is too fast.

It really is as simple as eat more. I know what you're thinking right now: "I do".
Think of what I'm actually saying: EAT MORE.
You can't be doing what has not been done. see what I mean? Weight can only be gained by intaking more calories than the body burns. Plain and simple. Now weight gainers are designed to help with the increased calorie intake. It's to overcompensate what your normal daily diet is. Now here's where it gets a little complicated. When you eat more, an ectomorph's metabolism will go up to to compenstae for the extra calories he's taking. Keep on increasing calorie intake until you notice that there is a change in body composition. Once you reach that point that is how much you eat everyday.
Once you've established that then look through the thread for advice on supplementing.

[hateraid]

Hateraid what would you recommend taking to help physically recover from day to day? My current schedule is wearing me down.

Monday - V-Ball and BJJ
Tuesday - Basketball and free weights
Wednesday - V-Ball and BJJ
Thursday - Basketball and free weights
Friday - V-Ball

Weekends I work and rest.


I could takes days off, but I'd rather not. I've had a similar sports schedule most my life, but at my age (29) its hard to recover day to day. I usually just play sore or tired if I have to.

A good post recovery drink should have ample high glycemic carbs to replenish glycogen levels and protein to repair torn muscle tissue. A trend everybody is doing now is taking waxy maize right after training and protein half an hour after. If you want to kick it up a notch I suggest to add a little glutamine with your post workout shake to help protect muscle after repair.

[hateraid]

Hey Hateraid. What is your favorite preworkout supplement in terms of effectiveness?

I'm a huge fan of 1MR right now. I work for BPI so I really believe in the stuff but I do get phenomenal feedback from users. I hear guys around me at the gym talking about it too. I tell them I'm the sales manager and they give me praise like no tomorrow. Try it, we invest in thousands of samples so go to a health food store and ask to try.

[hateraid]

If cost is a big factor, try looking into Soy Protein as well. Very cheap and effective if taken properly. If you want to go the route of Whey, then don't step foot in a GNC or any supplement store for that matter. Buy online. Always.

Why not go into a supplement store? The thing about online is you don't get the service. You don't get honest opinions, and you don't have the luxury of a return policy, samples, shaker cups, shirts..... I sell to online dealers and the fact is price gouging hurts the industry. Those products you buy for cheaper eventually will get the product pulled off the market because retailers refuse to compete. Support the service is what I would recommend.

BTW, soy has estrogen boosting properties. I wouldn't recommend to guys.

[bdreason]

A good post recovery drink should have ample high glycemic carbs to replenish glycogen levels and protein to repair torn muscle tissue. A trend everybody is doing now is taking waxy maize right after training and protein half an hour after. If you want to kick it up a notch I suggest to add a little glutamine with your post workout shake to help protect muscle after repair.


Can you recommend some products? I'd prefer to keep it simple and in one drink if possible.

[boozehound]

I hear morning piss is the best source of dissolved salts (electrolytes) you can ingest. Whats your take hateraid? Every sold anybody a jar of dehydrated piss crystals?

[hateraid]

Can you recommend some products? I'd prefer to keep it simple and in one drink if possible.

If you want an all-in-one the Xpand post is good. There's protein, BCAA's, Glutamine, high glycemic carbs, electrolytes, and creatine. All in impact amounts. Otherwise take a good meal replacement, or mix a good tasting protein with a banana.

[Patrick Chewing]

Why not go into a supplement store? The thing about online is you don't get the service. You don't get honest opinions, and you don't have the luxury of a return policy, samples, shaker cups, shirts..... I sell to online dealers and the fact is price gouging hurts the industry. Those products you buy for cheaper eventually will get the product pulled off the market because retailers refuse to compete. Support the service is what I would recommend.

BTW, soy has estrogen boosting properties. I wouldn't recommend to guys.

I understand your notion of service. Worked myself for many years in the retail/service business. It's true, the advice of a professional is priceless, yet nowadays a lot of us do our own homework and we've become pretty good at it. If you know what you're doing and how to do it, saving a few extra bucks makes the only sense.

What you say is true though. Walked into a GNC recently looking for some Clenbutrex and it was nowhere to be found. Was pulled off the shelf for no particular reason other than it was not selling. Primarily because the online market for it was booming since the product was nearly half of what these retailers were selling it for.

And a word to the wise: Don't just go willy nilly and buy anything on line. Do your homework, read up on it, and study the positive and negative effects. Make sure you are buying and dealing from a reputable seller as well.

[hateraid]

I hear morning piss is the best source of dissolved salts (electrolytes) you can ingest. Whats your take hateraid? Every sold anybody a jar of dehydrated piss crystals?

Lol, I haven't. Although some athletes have been known to do so.
If fact morning piss has alot of slats to replenish hydration, b-vitamins, and GH promoting hormones, but it also is highly acidic and full of toxins. This is all the crap your body is getting rid of when you're in repair mode. Mind you if you could filter it, then I see the benefits of drinking morning urine. But could you do it knowing the source?

[boozehound]

Lol, I haven't. Although some athletes have been known to do so.
If fact morning piss has alot of slats to replenish hydration, b-vitamins, and GH promoting hormones, but it also is highly acidic and full of toxins. This is all the crap your body is getting rid of when you're in repair mode. Mind you if you could filter it, then I see the benefits of drinking morning urine. But could you do it knowing the source?
meh, not sure. Ill try if im stuck on a lifeboat and desperate. One thing I learned from a really interesting sunk whaling ship book (forget the name). if you are going to bother eating each other, do it early on. Otherwise you cannot digest the protein without any fat (in you or on the meal, er other person) and its a waste anyways. So, kill the fattest, slice him real thin and sun dry that shit.

[hateraid]

I understand your notion of service. Worked myself for many years in the retail/service business. It's true, the advice of a professional is priceless, yet nowadays a lot of us do our own homework and we've become pretty good at it. If you know what you're doing and how to do it, saving a few extra bucks makes the only sense.

What you say is true though. Walked into a GNC recently looking for some Clenbutrex and it was nowhere to be found. Was pulled off the shelf for no particular reason other than it was not selling. Primarily because the online market for it was booming since the product was nearly half of what these retailers were selling it for.

And a word to the wise: Don't just go willy nilly and buy anything on line. Do your homework, read up on it, and study the positive and negative effects. Make sure you are buying and dealing from a reputable seller as well.

Believe me, retailers don't make a ton of margin from these products, on-line rapes the little guy because they buy in huge volume and get kickback, they can afford to charge lower. But, again, you don't get the service.
Thanks for understanding that. It's the retailers who keep me working.

[hateraid]

meh, not sure. Ill try if im stuck on a lifeboat and desperate. One thing I learned from a really interesting sunk whaling ship book (forget the name). if you are going to bother eating each other, do it early on. Otherwise you cannot digest the protein without any fat (in you or on the meal, er other person) and its a waste anyways. So, kill the fattest, slice him real thin and sun dry that shit.

:oldlol:
I'd rather drink piss.

[Maga_1]

It really is as simple as eat more. I know what you're thinking right now: "I do".
Think of what I'm actually saying: EAT MORE.
You can't be doing what has not been done. see what I mean? Weight can only be gained by intaking more calories than the body burns. Plain and simple. Now weight gainers are designed to help with the increased calorie intake. It's to overcompensate what your normal daily diet is. Now here's where it gets a little complicated. When you eat more, an ectomorph's metabolism will go up to to compenstae for the extra calories he's taking. Keep on increasing calorie intake until you notice that there is a change in body composition. Once you reach that point that is how much you eat everyday.
Once you've established that then look through the thread for advice on supplementing.

I talked to you, cause my coach said that i need to take some proteines or something that can help me build my body.
And because illl start to lift 4 times a week.

[DC's Finest]

To Hateraid, i'm trying to get bigger for basketball while retaining/increasing my speed/quickness. I've heard creatine and some proteins can slow you down, what would you suggest?

[dkmwise]

Hateraid, what do you think of the reccomended serving size on supplements? I don't take much, but when I want a really good workout or have a game of basketball after my workout I will take an NO supplement for energy. I find just by taking 1/8 of the reccomended usage I still get plenty of energy and don;'t have the bloated feeling I get if I was to take more. Is there reason to use the reccomended amount or if the smaller amount works should I just go with that?

[hateraid]

I talked to you, cause my coach said that i need to take some proteines or something that can help me build my body.
And because illl start to lift 4 times a week.

And I am trying to help you. But this is the first advice I give anybody that comes to me for the first time and says they can't gain. You got to absorb that concept first, otherwise no supplement is really going to help you. That's why I was so blunt about it.

Guys that ask me for weight gain advice always depend on the supplement world for the answer. I'll help them, but the ones who say they never gain weight I really have to drill home the value of eating as it is the first means of achieving their goals, and yet it's the hardest concept for them to grasp. I have to be frank because that's the common response I hear when I tell them to eat more."I do". How can you do what's not been done? Think about that one. Take everything you eat now and: EAT MORE.

Of course the first thing I would advise is to always take a good protein after weight training. It will repair muscle. But it won't gain mass. You'll develop faster sure, but no substantial goals in the area of sizable gains. Even with supplements, especially if you are a hard-gainer. this is the mistake I see with people, and believe me I see it all the time. Frankly, I get into alot of arguments over it, but i see these guys in the gyms, and guess what? They want allthe supplements in the world and they really want me to sell them on it, yet don't take in the concept of calorie increase. I'll see them a year after in the gym, same size.

Here's a little persective. Compare building a house to building your body. The supplements are like tools. I'm the tool guy. You're coming to me for the best tools to build your house. I can sell you all the tools in the world. You get them, but where are the bricks to build your house? The food is the bricks. In order to create those bricks you need to take in more calories than you can burn off to create that pile. You're telling me that as much as you eat, you can't gain weight. Therefor to create that pile, you need to eat more than your body burns. When you do you will start to pile up the bricks.

Once you get that concept, my friend maga, I will garauntee you, you will reach your goals.

[hateraid]

To Hateraid, i'm trying to get bigger for basketball while retaining/increasing my speed/quickness. I've heard creatine and some proteins can slow you down, what would you suggest?

Creatine in fact is a key component for gaining speed. It all depends on the way you train.
Creatine gets this bad rep for putting on bad weight. Not neccessarily true. It creates stored muscle energy. This is key when doing plyo training because it's the fuel responsible for quick bursts of energy. Not that I would down some creatine before a game, because it won't help endurance, but I would cycle it and get to plyo training. Eat more, and take a good product after training that doesn't have alot of empty calories. Take a product like Fusion 7 with glutamine after your workout.
A good preworkout creatine supplement I would suggest pretraining is caffiene free Xpand. Great creatine product with things like beta-alanine that help prevent lactic acid from breaking down muscle tissue.

[hateraid]

Hateraid, what do you think of the reccomended serving size on supplements? I don't take much, but when I want a really good workout or have a game of basketball after my workout I will take an NO supplement for energy. I find just by taking 1/8 of the reccomended usage I still get plenty of energy and don;'t have the bloated feeling I get if I was to take more. Is there reason to use the reccomended amount or if the smaller amount works should I just go with that?

The recommended amount is the maximum amount to take before starting to have adverse effects. Taking less is good. Sounds like your responsive to supplements so that's great. Saves money because you can maximize servings.

[beer]

i apologize if this has been answered. What is your workout routine? What workout routine would you recommend for gaining mass?

[E_Stamkos]

What are youre opinions on D-Ball supplement pills?

[Whiteness]

so what are the thoughts, as the official ISH dymatize rep, on OTHER companies?

I lapride Gaspari like no other.:confusedshrug:

[bdreason]

If you want an all-in-one the Xpand post is good. There's protein, BCAA's, Glutamine, high glycemic carbs, electrolytes, and creatine. All in impact amounts. Otherwise take a good meal replacement, or mix a good tasting protein with a banana.


Thanks I'll try it out. I already use Pro Lab NLarge2 shakes for extra protein and calories.

[BlazersDozen]

I need some roids....hook ups?

[fiddy]

Im looking for reviews on AX's Hard FX and Mass FX (The Destroyer).

[glidedrxlr22]

Yo Hateraid, what do you think about CissusRX? I like it. Makes old training aches go away.

[hateraid]

i apologize if this has been answered. What is your workout routine? What workout routine would you recommend for gaining mass?

Mine I try and keep very simple. Some things I've learned is it generally takes about 48 hrs for muscle to repair, but only 24 hr for core and calves. lately I've been doing full body routines 3 days a week and playing ball about 3 days a week. Simple yet effective. I did do a routine with my bro that was really intense, he actually managed to lose 25 pound in 2 months (along iwht diet and thermos)

day 1:
Flat bench x 4 superset with Tricep pulldowns x 4
Incline x 4 superset with Tri extensions x 4
Decline x 4 superset dips x 4
Butterfly press x 4 superset tricep press x 4
Shoulder press x 4 superset with lateral raises x 4
Front raises x 4 superset with upright rows x 4
Calf raises x 4
Situps 50 x 4

day 2:
Pull ups x 4 superset with dumbell curls x 4
Seated rows x 4 superset with bicep curls x 4
Back extensions x 4 superset isolated dumbell curls x 4
Bent over rows x 4 superset with preacher curls x 4
Leg press x 4 superset hacksquats x 4
Leg extensions x 4 superset with leg curls x 4
calf raises x 4
situps 50 x 4

rest day, repeat
We'd do it so we were rotating supersets so it left no breaks in between. We'd try and time it and beat the times while using weights that had uncomfortable resitance, not too heavy. For cardio we went and played ball after.

[hateraid]

What are youre opinions on D-Ball supplement pills?

do you mean d-bol or b-ball?

[hateraid]

I need some roids....hook ups?

Sorry, i'm out

[hateraid]

so what are the thoughts, as the official ISH dymatize rep, on OTHER companies?

I lapride Gaspari like no other.:confusedshrug:

I fully endorse all companies as long as they don't attack mine. Some of my greatest friends are working for my competitors. It's unethical to knock another product, especially when you know how they make thiers. That's why I had a particular beef with bb.com because they were always slamming GNC brand products when in fact GNC has one of the highest quality standards in the industry. I know Rich Gaspari, met him many times at trade shows and when I was doing 3rd party managing for GNC and I have no problem with his products. I actually have more issues with guys who slam other brands and promote Gaspari as if it's the be all and end all of sports nutrition. Those who claim that have very little inside information, are misguided and uneducated in the industry.

But if you like Gaspari, i'm all for it, as long as the industry as a whole evolves, we all make the pie bigger and we can all benefit from it

[hateraid]

Im looking for reviews on AX's Hard FX and Mass FX (The Destroyer).

Since i don't work for GNC anymore I've been really out of the loop with other supplement companies. Looking at this one however I'd be a little skeptical since it's a proprietary blend. They forluma is there but it seems a little too low for what the products actually do, unless the are standardized.

Something with a test booster and a protein activator together. I have a product called M-80.

http://www.4supplementreviews.com/bpi-sports-m-80-reviews/

[hateraid]

Yo Hateraid, what do you think about CissusRX? I like it. Makes old training aches go away.

I've never heard of it. Looks interesting.

[shlver]

Since you said it was 80% diet, 15% correct lifting, and 5% supplement. What does taking a supplement actually benefit you? Because 5% is really small, almost insignificant. I'm on the fence, because spending money on these supplements in my current situation is counter intuitive if I have 95% of what I need to do down and the benefit of supplements is that small.

[branslowski]

Cheaters.

[hateraid]

Since you said it was 80% diet, 15% correct lifting, and 5% supplement. What does taking a supplement actually benefit you? Because 5% is really small, almost insignificant. I'm on the fence, because spending money on these supplements in my current situation is counter intuitive if I have 95% of what I need to do down and the benefit of supplements is that small.

I like to put it this way. Gas additive is a very little component to your car, but it makes a huge difference when you use it.

The theory is that you can achieve your goals just by dieting alone, you develop by training, but taking supplements on thier own will have little to no effect if the two bigger portions aren't in tact. Once you have that down pact, then that 5% will take you the rest of the way. You don't NEED supplements, but they sure do HELP.

[shlver]

I like to put it this way. Gas additive is a very little component to your car, but it makes a huge difference when you use it.

The theory is that you can achieve your goals just by dieting alone, you develop by training, but taking supplements on thier own will have little to no effect if the two bigger portions aren't in tact. Once you have that down pact, then that 5% will take you the rest of the way. You don't NEED supplements, but they sure do HELP.
Ahh okay. I don't have my diet down correctly. Will it still help me?

[hateraid]

Ahh okay. I don't have my diet down correctly. Will it still help me?

I posted in another thread that supplements can be used to motivate people. So in the event that your diet is poor to adequate at least you're investing in something and getting off your as$. But will it do the result for you? No. Diet is so improtant to reaching goals, but it's the one aspect that people won't hold themselves accountable for. I think that's why I was so blunt with Maga. I wanted him to understand the neccessity of diet before supplementing. (Sorry maga, you still my man!). He says he eats alot but never gains weight. I wanted to re-enforce that in fact he's not eating enough if he isn't reaching his goals. But that's the commonality of people who don't get to their goals, it must be the supplement. Accountabilty gone.

Supplements help, but they aren't the cause of how the goals are met, that's why I don't accept when people say supplements don't work. They all work, it's all in expectations.

[Whiteness]

I fully endorse all companies as long as they don't attack mine.

I just looooooove SizeOn... really wish my store carried dymatize man... I've only had the elite cereal LoL

sh!t was bomb th0

how's that stim free xpand?

[hateraid]

I just looooooove SizeOn... really wish my store carried dymatize man... I've only had the elite cereal LoL

sh!t was bomb th0

how's that stim free xpand?

It's the only preworkout I know of that's stim free.
BTW, the cereals are discontinued.

[Whiteness]

It's the only preworkout I know of that's stim free.
BTW, the cereals are discontinued.

I know I bought the last case from the shelf hahaha... also... GNC actually makes a non stim workout that is

Pro Performance

[E_Stamkos]

do you mean d-bol or b-ball?

I believe D-Bol would be the correct pronunciation. I had a friend who used them and reported great results but im not sure how safe these things are over the long run. Know anything about them? I remember him explaining how these capsules made you lift like you were on roids minus the nasty side effects