Is this Rihanna pic real?

[blasian]

http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/19/rihanna-photo-face-beating/

I think so.

Damn Chris Brown....

[DeuceWallaces]

Damn he beat the hell out of her.

[Gunnin4HoLeS]

damn...What the..

[hito da god]

wow she has knots on her forehead and everything.

[D-Rose]

Wow...ouch...wince...

[Day La Ghetto]

kinda looks like a baboon

[GOBB]

Could be photoshopped. I need to see actually video.

[i seen hippos]

Why is Prime so obsessed with strangulation. Every thread about this case he posts that pic. lol

[blasian]

Could be photoshopped. I need to see actually video.

I've seen a lot of photoshops, if this is fake, then its easily the best photoshop I've ever seen

[GOBB]

Why is Prime so obsessed with strangulation. Every thread about this case he posts that pic. lol

He's experienced at strangulation given how much Jabes strangled him on here.

[Day La Ghetto]

Why is Prime so obsessed with strangulation. Every thread about this case he posts that pic. lol

i laughed to, he does that everytime with victims of crime like this. bet he has a submission fetish, likes to be tied up or/and spanked and yelps like a girl

[i seen hippos]

He's experienced at strangulation given how much Jabes strangled him on here.

Was this during the 4 months I was gone?

[-primetime-]

I have posted that pic twice now...

I am trying to see if HE TRIED TO KILL HER!!!

[BrooklynZoo]

this could be real, i heard people sayin she looked like she had devil horns coming out of her head

[i seen hippos]

I have posted that pic twice now...

I am trying to see if HE TRIED TO KILL HER!!!

But who did you try to kill, Prime? Who did you try to kill?

Or did you go all the way? Did you go all the way, Primetime?

[pete's montreux]

Does Rihanna have a tattoo on her left shoulder like the picture?

[DoubleTech]

she shoulda protected herself with an umbrella ella ella eh

that joke was terrible, i'm sorry.

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

I must tip my hat off to Christopher Brown. :applause: A worthy man indeed. They say skinny guys fight till they're burger. Decapitate the woman, put her between two patties, and a hearty meal had been served.

On second thought, what was the motive behind this man's admirable actions? Was it the diseased-ridden lips of this female Siren? Why must the diseased be looked down at harshly? Why can't the imbeciles, the carriers of viruses, the speaker of Tourette's, the paralyzed be sent into a secluded place free of mocking laughter by the normal? Occasionally, I see brutality within you people that I have no desire of executing. :no:

[blasian]

Does Rihanna have a tattoo on her left shoulder like the picture?

yea
http://binside.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/21/rihanna_tattoo.jpg

[Kumo]

After I cleaned up I was disgusted.

[Skywalker]

it looks like Chris was trying to make her look like him?

[dware94]

wow, chris brown mangled the **** outta her:wtf:

[Odomize]

How do we know it's Rihanna? It doesn't even look like her.

Those tattoos could easily be shopped on to match Rihanna's.

[jbot]

i don't think it looks like her but who knows. i'm not condoning what chris did but i'm sure she did something to make him p!$$3d.

[v-unit]

I found a different leaked picture of Rihanna...Maybe these are all fakes?

Beware, it's brutal like the first NSFW (http://www.tvgasm.com/shows/images/ANTM/Season9/oprah.jpg)

[Fatal9]

I'd hit it.

[jjswifty]

The pic was on the news. Therefore it must be true. :eek:

[blasian]

I'd hit it.

Chris Brown BEAT you to it




okay, that was uncalled for

[starface]

before this happened i had no idea anyone cared about chris brown or "rihanna."

i dont think i could name or recognize a single one of either of their songs. but just by still photos and clips i've seen of their music videos, i can tell its extremely corny.


to me this is just like the excess michael phelps attention. i hate when lower tier celebrities get covered as if they really matter.

[kidachi]

I'd hit it.


I knew someone would reply this. :oldlol:

[Gundress]

Damn:eek:

I thought Chris Brown is not kind of a person would do something like that but Rihanann must made him real pissed off. I wanna hear Chris's camp stories because I alway heard info from Rihanna's.

[twolvesfan]

what disease was it?

[blasian]

before this happened i had no idea anyone cared about chris brown or "rihanna."

i dont think i could name or recognize a single one of either of their songs. but just by still photos and clips i've seen of their music videos, i can tell its extremely corny.


to me this is just like the excess michael phelps attention. i hate when lower tier celebrities get covered as if they really matter.

They're both multiplatinum artists. Just because you've never heard of them doesn't mean they're not famous lol.

[i seen hippos]

Chris Brown BEAT you to it




okay, that was uncalled for

Ya, you guys are really starting to beat a dead horse.

[-primetime-]

before this happened i had no idea anyone cared about chris brown or "rihanna."

i dont think i could name or recognize a single one of either of their songs. but just by still photos and clips i've seen of their music videos, i can tell its extremely corny.


to me this is just like the excess michael phelps attention. i hate when lower tier celebrities get covered as if they really matter.
celebrities of any tier will get coverage...that is why they are celebrities...

the only song I know from either is umbrella...

I am interested in this for the "attempted murder" aspect of it...

seeing a teeny love song singing pop star attempt to kill his celebrity girlfriend is pretty crazy news to me...

[crisoner]

What a f*cking a$$HOLE. Say goodbye to your career Brown.
You NEVER lay a hand on a girl...that why you have sisters or girl cousins...don't ever put your hands on a women. WTF.

[blasian]

celebrities of any tier will get coverage...that is why they are celebrities...

the only song I know from either is umbrella...

I am interested in this for the "attempted murder" aspect of it...

seeing a teeny love song singing pop star attempt to kill his celebrity girlfriend is pretty crazy news to me...

they're not lower tier celebrities though lol.

we get it, you guys dont follow pop culture, thats cool, its admirable, and you're better than the rest of us clowns who are in the know. But it doesn't change the fact that they're both famous

[twolvesfan]

he probably did it after he heard the umbrella song:hammerhead:

[i seen hippos]

they're not lower tier celebrities though lol.

we get it, you guys dont follow pop culture, thats cool, its admirable, and you're better than the rest of us clowns who are in the know. But it doesn't change the fact that they're both famous

Wat's pop culture?

[L.Kizzle]

Down with Chris Brown

WTF, don't mess up her face, on any other chicks face, bastard.

[-primetime-]

they're not lower tier celebrities though lol.

we get it, you guys dont follow pop culture, thats cool, its admirable, and you're better than the rest of us clowns who are in the know. But it doesn't change the fact that they're both famous
wtf are you talking about?...no one is saying anything about be better than anyone...

they are "lower tier" so to speak IMO...



if Paris Hilton farted she would get more coverage than this...

[kidachi]

Wat's pop culture?


yeah.. it's POPULAR CULTURE. but i think he meant POP the genre..

[v-unit]

wtf are you talking about?...no one is saying anything about be better than anyone...

they are "lower tier" so to speak IMO...



if Paris Hilton farted she would get more coverage than this...

Nah man sorry you're wrong. Rihanna is rising her status REALLY quickly in today's world in female music at the moment. Chris Brown isn't, but Rihanna is up there now. She isn't as known as Britney/Jessica/Christina IMO, but is going at a good rate.

[L.Kizzle]

wtf are you talking about?...no one is saying anything about be better than anyone...

they are "lower tier" so to speak IMO...



if Paris Hilton farted she would get more coverage than this...
Rihanna is a first tier Pop star, Chris Brown is (oops, was his career is over) around the second-third tier.

[-primetime-]

cuz of that one damn umbrella song?

or does she have other hits I am unaware of?

[starface]

They're both multiplatinum artists. Just because you've never heard of them doesn't mean they're not famous lol.


part of it is my contempt for R&B music which i find excrutiatingly corny - with the one, only exception being R. Kelly - so it vexes me that this clown is getting some kind of star-coverage, espeially when his only fans are black people. he's not even a broad star with a far reaching audience. he's a "BET Star" and doesnt really matter as much as the coverage of him would suggest. Much like Michael Phelps, a freakin swimmer.

i just think they're getting more coverage than their spot in the pecking order warrants.

[kidachi]

Wat's pop culture?
yeah.. it's POPULAR CULTURE. but i think he meant POP the genre..

[starface]

Rihanna is a first tier Pop star,

are you talking about talent or celebrity?

if you're talking talent, then i cant say because i dont listen to much pop.

if you're talking about fame, Riahanna is nowhere close to the first tier. First tier is like Britney Spears and Beyonce, Jessica Simpson.

Rihanna is a nobody.

[-primetime-]

part of it is my contempt for R&B music which i find excrutiatingly corny - with the one, only exception being R. Kelly - so it vexes me that this clown is getting some kind of star-coverage, espeially when his only fans are black people. he's not even a broad star with a far reaching audience. he's a "BET Star" and doesnt really matter as much as the coverage of him would suggest. Much like Michael Phelps, a freakin swimmer.

i just think they're getting more coverage than their spot in the pecking order warrants.
I have yet to even see this on the news...:confusedshrug:

and I watch CNN all the time...


I don't watch celeb gossip shows....so maybe I am missing out here....but I might not even know about this if it wasn't for ISH...

[blasian]

yeah.. it's POPULAR CULTURE. but i think he meant POP the genre..

pop culture=popular culture

[L.Kizzle]

cuz of that one damn umbrella song?

or does she have other hits I am unaware of?
Rihanna has a ton of number one pop hits, Chris Brown may have one, (not including that duet with that chick Jordin"

[L.Kizzle]

are you talking about talent or celebrity?

if you're talking talent, then i cant say because i dont listen to much pop.

if you're talking about fame, Riahanna is nowhere close to the first tier. First tier is like Britney Spears and Beyonce, Jessica Simpson.

Rihanna is a nobody.
Rihanna is in that first tier, Jessica Simpson is not, hell Amy Winehous is first tier also ...

[L.Kizzle]

part of it is my contempt for R&B music which i find excrutiatingly corny - with the one, only exception being R. Kelly - so it vexes me that this clown is getting some kind of star-coverage, espeially when his only fans are black people. he's not even a broad star with a far reaching audience. he's a "BET Star" and doesnt really matter as much as the coverage of him would suggest. Much like Michael Phelps, a freakin swimmer.

i just think they're getting more coverage than their spot in the pecking order warrants.
You don't find R. Kelly corny. Trapped In The Closet and Flirt among other recent tunes by him?

[DCL]

chrissy brown hit a girl like that? damn, he opened a big can of whoop ass on her. if that pic is real, he's definitely going to jail.

[-primetime-]

Rihanna is in that first tier, Jessica Simpson is not, hell Amy Winehous is first tier also ...
:no:

no way...they are not "household names"

if my parents know who they are, then I would consider them top celebs...:oldlol:

seriously though...

my parents know exactly who Beyonce, Jessica, Paris, ect...are

If I asked them who Rihanna and Chris Brown are they would be clueless...as well as Winehouse...because they have yet to reach that level where EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER knows about them...

[blasian]

part of it is my contempt for R&B music which i find excrutiatingly corny - with the one, only exception being R. Kelly - so it vexes me that this clown is getting some kind of star-coverage, espeially when his only fans are black people. he's not even a broad star with a far reaching audience. he's a "BET Star" and doesnt really matter as much as the coverage of him would suggest. Much like Michael Phelps, a freakin swimmer.

i just think they're getting more coverage than their spot in the pecking order warrants.

He's more popular in the black community, sure. But you don't go double platinum with the sole support of black people lol.

He's much more than just a BET star, his videos got play on Mtv and VH1. A list is too generous, I'd say he's B list.

Rihanna on the other hand is definitely A list

[L.Kizzle]

:no:

no way...they are not "household names"

if my parents know who they are, then I would consider them top celebs...:oldlol:

seriously though...

my parents know exactly who Beyonce, Jessica, Paris, ect...are

If I asked them who Rihanna and Chris Brown are they would be clueless...as well as Winehouse...because they have yet to reach that level where EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER knows about them...
I'm talking about in the music world. Jessica and Paris aren't know for their music, Rihanna is. That's why she's a top tier pop start, not top tier celebrity.

[catzhernandez]

I must tip my hat off to Christopher Brown. :applause: A worthy man indeed. They say skinny guys fight till they're burger. Decapitate the woman, put her between two patties, and a hearty meal had been served.

On second thought, what was the motive behind this man's admirable actions? Was it the diseased-ridden lips of this female Siren? Why must the diseased be looked down at harshly? Why can't the imbeciles, the carriers of viruses, the speaker of Tourette's, the paralyzed be sent into a secluded place free of mocking laughter by the normal? Occasionally, I see brutality within you people that I have no desire of executing. :no:
Easily your worst gimmick yet, Josh...

Not only was it unfunny, the wordage you thought you were so cleverly picking out to use here, was hard as hell to read.

NEXT!

[-primetime-]

I'm talking about in the music world. Jessica and Paris aren't know for their music, Rihanna is. That's why she's a top tier pop start, not top tier celebrity.
oh well ok, I can certainly agree with that...I guess...

although I still kinda feel as though these are not really household names, where as other pop stars are...:confusedshrug:

It is kinda of a silly and pointless arguement anyway...

[L.Kizzle]

oh well ok, I can certainly agree with that...I guess...

although I still kinda feel as though these are not really household names, where as other pop stars are...:confusedshrug:

It is kinda of a silly and pointless arguement anyway...
Yeah, really not important when talking about something serious like domestic violence ... Go post in my trumpet thread.

[catzhernandez]

wtf are you talking about?...no one is saying anything about be better than anyone...

they are "lower tier" so to speak IMO...



if Paris Hilton farted she would get more coverage than this...
You're wrong here.

Rihanna and Chris Brown are as big as Kanye West or Lil Wayne.


Now go back to your hole.

[L.Kizzle]

You're wrong here.

Rihanna and Chris Brown are as big as Kanye West or Lil Wayne.


Now go back to your hole.
Lil Wayne's not as big as you think.

[Fatal9]

If she knowingly gave him herpes, I sympathize with him.

I just read that the tattoo with LXXXVI is her best friend's birthday. That's a bit weird for someone to do that...

[L.Kizzle]

If she knowingly gave him herpes, I sympathize with him.

I just read that the tattoo with LXXXVI is her best friend's birthday. That's a bit weird for someone to do that...
That herpes rumor is so two weeks ago.

[v-unit]

LOL

Chris Brown is not on Lil Wayne level.

[Fatal9]

That herpes rumor is so two weeks ago.
really? ISH is my only source for this stuff...usually never check gossip news.

[-primetime-]

Lil Wayne's not as big as you think.
I was thinking the same thing...

although I think everyone knows who Kanye is now after his George Bush speach...


I never brought up either one of them though...:ohwell:

[catzhernandez]

LOL

Chris Brown is not on Lil Wayne level.
I might have overstepped when I said that, but Rihanna easily is.

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

Hehe, look at these silly humans debate the superstar status of these untalented celepretties. It is quite evident that Paris Hilton is well past her prime, and is now irrelevant. Silly -primetime- must be an avid watcher of E! and a skipper of MTV. Of the one's mentioned above, Kanye and Weezy top the tabloids. Rihanna is a notch below, but at the moment her and C. Breezy are soaring at the top. Three weeks into Disturbia (Summer '08) was probably her absolute prime which had been building up ever since that Pon De Replay video. She has hit a secondary climax but she is by no means a nobody. Chris Brown has always been nationally renowned, but third-tier to the collective human population, and first to adolescent White Trash and Female Cholos.

[L.Kizzle]

I was thinking the same thing...

although I think everyone knows who Kanye is now after his George Bush speach...


I never brought up either one of them though...:ohwell:
People know Kanye, just by name only, know one really knows who the fukc Lil Wayne is.

If Lil Wayne came to my job, only the defendants would know who he was.

[Laker4Lyfe]

part of it is my contempt for R&B music which i find excrutiatingly corny - with the one, only exception being R. Kelly

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::r oll:

[blasian]

People know Kanye, just by name only, know one really knows who the fukc Lil Wayne is.

If Lil Wayne came to my job, only the defendants would know who he was.

For better or worse, Wayne got a lot of exposure with that Katie Couric interview.

And I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure the Carter III was the best selling album of '08.

He's not Kanye level in terms of fame, but he's up there, and I'd put him above Chris Brown

[catzhernandez]

And I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure the Carter III was the best selling album of '08.

this.


I mean MY OWN MOM knows Lil Wayne by face. Just cause he's everywhere.

[L.Kizzle]

For better or worse, Wayne got a lot of exposure with that Katie Couric interview.

And I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure the Carter III was the best selling album of '08.

He's not Kanye level in terms of fame, but he's up there, and I'd put him above Chris Brown
As far as black world, I'd put Wayne over CB, but in white land, Cb is more well known. As a matter of fact, that'll be my project for work tomorrow.

[starface]

Rihanna on the other hand is definitely A list


I think you're opinion is too influenced by her standing in her particular genre of music since perhaps she is at the top of that.

But in terms of overall American celebrity, Rihanna is not on the A-list. I mean that's just fact. Like primetime said, our mothers would have no idea who Rihanna is. And it doesnt have to do with culture, because my mom could pick Snoop Dogg out of a lineup easily. HE is an a-lister/icon. Moms could do that with Beyonce as well.

You would not see Rihanna on the cover of US Weekly. Inside it perhaps, but she is not famous enough to be on the cover. Like I said, if Britney, Jessica, Beyonce or actresses like Jen or Angelina, etc. walk into a bar, there is a 90% chance the bartender recognizes them. That's the A-list. Rihanna stands about a 15% chance of being recognized at a randomized bar, and thats being generous.


I'm telling you factually. Rihanna is not a "household" national celebrity [or was not, until she got beat up]. She's just not. I'm telling you.

[catzhernandez]

As far as black world, I'd put Wayne over CB, but in white land, Cb is more well known. As a matter of fact, that'll be my project for work tomorrow.
In "white land"?

We live in the SAME fcking world you racist ass.

[-primetime-]

People know Kanye, just by name only, know one really knows who the fukc Lil Wayne is.

If Lil Wayne came to my job, only the defendants would know who he was.
i can remember being at the Dallas Galleria with my ex and I saw Manny Fresh wlakin around with just some chick...

I am sure it was him due to his lack of a chin and the diamonds all over him...

anyway...I am pretty sure I was the only person in that area that knew who the hell he was in that flood of white people...:oldlol:

no one looked his way or had a clue at all...


he is like 100th tier though...:oldlol:

this converstation just reminded me of that...

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

From my experience looking up. (I'm an omniscient being by the way.)

- Most adults are familiar with both Rihanna and Kanye. But not Wayne.
- Wayne possesses more legitimate, hardcore fans.
- Rihanna is more or less the household name of the three, but not many love her music enough to stalk her.
- Chris Brown is slow, but steady. The timelines of "Run It", "With You", and "Forever" was probably the first stretch of famous prime he had, but it's slowed down significantly, and he doesn't quite hold a broken flashlight to Kanye/Weezy's darkness. T.I., Winehouse, Edward Cullen are people at C. Breezy's level.

I watch a combination of MTV/BET/E!/Guide and read tabloids occasionally to deduce my info. You can argue what you want but it comes down to what you're exposed to at the end. Blasian seems most correct in this regard, in my opinion.

[starface]

In "white land"?

We live in the SAME fcking world you racist ass.


you know full well what he means, its just that what he means is completely inaccurate.

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

Catzhernandez is too stupid to belong to hell, and too much of a lazy hedonist to be granted access to the heavens above. Where will he go? He's not cool nor stylish enough to hang with me, AntiChrist, BeezleBub, and Saddam. But even all-tolerant Jesus, Ganesh, Muhammad, Buddha, and David don't want a whiff of him. Where does his doomed soul belong?

[L.Kizzle]

In "white land"?

We live in the SAME fcking world you racist ass.
Um, you're the racist here buddy.

I also said "black world" you probably didn't notice that, you picked out "L.Kizzle" and "white" in the same sentence and added it up.

[catzhernandez]

you know full well what he means, its just that what he means is completely inaccurate.
No, star.

I don't know what he means. I really don't.

I'm tired of this race division everyone is still so caught up on.

It's 200****ing9.

We're all people, black, white, brown, blue. Same world, same television, same internet.

What the **** is a "black world" and a "white world"?

I'm just sick and tired of the racist propaganda bull**** that people like L.Kizzle try to sell me.

Same world dude. SAME WORLD.

[-primetime-]

there is a white culture and a black culture...

and there will be until you die...

so get used to it...

[catzhernandez]

Um, you're the racist here buddy.

I also said "black world" you probably didn't notice that, you picked out "L.Kizzle" and "white" in the same sentence and added it up.
I'm the racist one?

Look in the mirror. Better yet, look inside of yourself. I know you'r young, I know you're a chill dude, I have NO qualms with you.

But the thing is, I have a feeling you were raised with these beliefs.

Anyone in your family racist?

[catzhernandez]

there is a white culture and a black culture...

and there will be until you die...

so get used to it...
Culture... define culture.

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

You are being ignorant and simple-minded. Good, passive, and fair. But impractical and simple-minded. Then again the Purdue setting may give you a skewed impression of mankind, so I can't truly blame you.

[catzhernandez]

Catzhernandez is too stupid to belong to hell, and too much of a lazy hedonist to be granted access to the heavens above. Where will he go? He's not cool nor stylish enough to hang with me, AntiChrist, BeezleBub, and Saddam. But even all-tolerant Jesus, Ganesh, Muhammad, Buddha, and David don't want a whiff of him. Where does his doomed soul belong?
Guess I'll be incorporeal.

[blasian]

I'm the racist one?

Look in the mirror. Better yet, look inside of yourself. I know you'r young, I know you're a chill dude, I have NO qualms with you.

But the thing is, I have a feeling you were raised with these beliefs.

Anyone in your family racist?

Dude chill, you're putting words in his mouth.

There's a white community and there's a black community. There's an Asian community, etc. Not racism, just a fact. America's a diverse place....

[-primetime-]

Culture... define culture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_culture

[L.Kizzle]

No, star.

I don't know what he means. I really don't.

I'm tired of this race division everyone is still so caught up on.

It's 200****ing9.

We're all people, black, white, brown, blue. Same world, same television, same internet.

What the **** is a "black world" and a "white world"?

I'm just sick and tired of the racist propaganda bull**** that people like L.Kizzle try to sell me.

Same world dude. SAME WORLD.
Please, what are you on. Every thread I post in, it somehow turns racist with, every single thread man. What the hell does living in the same world have to do with race, please tell me wise man?

[catzhernandez]

Dude chill, you're putting words in his mouth.

There's a white community and there's a black community. There's an Asian community, etc. Not racism, just a fact. America's a diverse place....
Nah, I'm not putting words into anyone's mouths.

He made not have exactly MEANT word for word what I said, but I think subliminally, he did in fact mean something along those lines.

I just get tired of the whole race thing.

Black world and white world... It's ONE world, do you see what I'm saying?

Do you?

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

Alright phuck this I can't deal with this gimmick sh!t no more.

This is obviously JEFFERSON MONEY, but anyways CATZ HOW STUPID CAN YOU FREAKIN BE.

It's real simple. YOU HAVE PARENTS. THEY TEACH YOU SH!T. DEPENDING ON YOUR RACE ITS DIFFERENT Sh!T. Be it cooking, music, language whateva. You are to an extend defined by your race (tho white people far less so) like it or not. There are different communities. You've got to recognize dat sh!t. Kizzle may be promoting black attitude but he ain't a racist. Starface may be targetting unfair double-standards, but he ain't a racist. -primetime- may be acting nice and sober, but he IS a racist.

LOOK MAN I DIG YOUR NOBLE CONCEPT OF UNITY BUT ITS JUST NOT HOW IT IS.

[catzhernandez]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_culture
What a joke, save that crap for someone else.

I'm trying to TALK like a normal person here, not look up random ****ing facts on Wikipedia.

Thanks for trying though.

[big baller]

Ya I saw tht pic earlyer today......hope Rihanna gets better and lookin more like her sexy self :ohwell:

[catzhernandez]

Alright phuck this I can't deal with this gimmick sh!t no more.

This is obviously JEFFERSON MONEY, but anyways CATZ HOW STUPID CAN YOU FREAKIN BE.

It's real simple. YOU HAVE PARENTS. THEY TEACH YOU SH!T. DEPENDING ON YOUR RACE ITS DIFFERENT Sh!T. Be it cooking, music, language whateva. You are to an extend defined by your race (tho white people far less so) like it or not. There are different communities. You've got to recognize dat sh!t. Kizzle may be promoting black attitude but he ain't a racist. Starface may be targetting unfair double-standards, but he ain't a racist. -primetime- may be acting nice and sober, but he IS a racist.

LOOK MAN I DIG YOUR NOBLE CONCEPT OF UNITY BUT ITS JUST NOT HOW IT IS.
Well primetime = Romo, Of course he's a racist.

And how stupid can I be?

You're calling me stupid, but you failed to even present your side of the matter.

And what ARE you getting at?

[L.Kizzle]

I'm the racist one?

Look in the mirror. Better yet, look inside of yourself. I know you'r young, I know you're a chill dude, I have NO qualms with you.

But the thing is, I have a feeling you were raised with these beliefs.

Anyone in your family racist?
Yes, I come from a tribe of racist, the Catzhernandez tribe. Guys who don't think they're racist but they are because they have a few friends from a different race. This tribe analyzes everything other do and somehow comes to the conclusion that everybody but them is racist. They critique, make suggestions, ect on everyone but themselves.


"Hey, I'm not racist, I have four black friends pal."

[blasian]

Nah, I'm not putting words into anyone's mouths.

He made not have exactly MEANT word for word what I said, but I think subliminally, he did in fact mean something along those lines.

I just get tired of the whole race thing.

Black world and white world... It's ONE world, do you see what I'm saying?

Do you?

Of course I see what you're saying. But you'd have to be incredibly naive to not think that there are subcultures within America centered on race and religion. With diversity comes cultural identity.

The fact of the matter is that a black community exists. Whether you like that or not is irrelevant. Kizzle was just pointing that out. I really dont understand how that's racist.

[catzhernandez]

Please, what are you on. Every thread I post in, it somehow turns racist with, every single thread man. What the hell does living in the same world have to do with race, please tell me wise man?
Maybe don't say stupid things like "in the black world" or "in the white world"...


We live in the same world. Let me reiterate.

[catzhernandez]

Of course I see what you're saying. But you'd have to be incredibly naive to not think that there are subcultures within America centered on race and religion. With diversity comes cultural identity.

The fact of the matter is that a black community exists. Whether you like that or not is irrelevant. Kizzle was just pointing that out. I really dont understand how that's racist.
*sigh*

I'm done here. I'm not racist, I'm just sick of the way people are raising their children with hatred and divided lines. All because of the color of our skin.

Sorry Kizzle if I crossed the line. :cheers:

[blasian]

Lol at the spectrum of topics covered in this thread.

This is why I love the otc.

I'm out fellas

[L.Kizzle]

Of course I see what you're saying. But you'd have to be incredibly naive to not think that there are subcultures within America centered on race and religion. With diversity comes cultural identity.

The fact of the matter is that a black community exists. Whether you like that or not is irrelevant. Kizzle was just pointing that out. I really dont understand how that's racist.
No blasian, you're wrong on this, Catz is right, we are all the same. There is ONE WORLD and everyone is the same. We all live the same, watch the same TV shows, worship the same God, watch WWE on Monday night and are Pacer fans.
:roll:

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

*sigh*

I'm done here. I'm not racist, I'm just sick of the way people are raising their children with hatred and divided lines. All because of the color of our skin.

Sorry Kizzle if I crossed the line. :cheers:

Not hatred. Tradition. You're typing like its a completely neutral world out there. Like interracial relationships would be the primary choice of wedded couples. Like all-black schools, Asian barbershops, and ghettoes are nonexistent. It's just not how it is. It's not a matter of hatred. It's more along the lines of preference and common ground. Look I respect that you want to change it, but I'm of South Asian descent.. my 'rents teach me how to cook kebabs, naan etc., read the Qur'an, and they want me to marry a girl of the same country. I don't show contempt nor prejudice, but my scenario applies to most other folks with minor modifications.

Ironically, I might dive into race here, but you're a white guy in Indiana that has a passion for basketball. Irish at that. Don't you think you're just a wee bit more progressive?

Look I respect your attitude again, but you're coming off as a six year old who's done read MLK's speech. The world is a cold, dark, complicated.. hypocritical place.

[big baller]

LMFAO, wow catz, everyone is attacking you, and its damn funny! :lol

[catzhernandez]

No blasian, you're wrong on this, Catz is right, we are all the same. There is ONE WORLD and everyone is the same. We all live the same, watch the same TV shows, worship the same God, watch WWE on Monday night and are Pacer fans.
:roll:
You really are as simple minded as I originally thought.

Must suck to be as ignorant and blatantly racist as you are.

Your parents must be proud of the gem they created.

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

You really are as simple minded as I originally thought.

Must suck to be as ignorant and blatantly racist as you are.

Your parents must be proud of the gem they created.

:rolleyes: Kizzle's packing the kitchen knives on a rampage to kill whitey. Just you wait! He's ought to rid the world of the accursed Caucasians!

[catzhernandez]

Not hatred. Tradition. You're typing like its a completely neutral world out there. Like interracial relationships would be the primary choice of wedded couples. Like all-black schools, Asian barbershops, and ghettoes are nonexistent. It's just not how it is. It's not a matter of hatred. It's more along the lines of preference and common ground. Look I respect that you want to change it, but I'm of South Asian descent.. my 'rents teach me how to cook kebabs, naan etc., read the Qur'an, and they want me to marry a girl of the same country. I don't show contempt nor prejudice, but my scenario applies to most other folks with minor modifications.

Ironically, I might dive into race here, but you're a white guy in Indiana that has a passion for basketball. Irish at that. Don't you think you're just a wee bit more progressive?

Look I respect your attitude again, but you're coming off as a six year old who's done read MLK's speech. The world is a cold, dark, complicated.. hypocritical place.
I guess I am, and damn you know a lot about me... lol

Anyways, I'm not trying to start a renaissance here, or say that I'm better than anyone.

I just wish people could see things the way they're really meant to be seen, as sappy as that sounds. And as much as Kizzle wants to deny it, deep down he lives a divided life, and apparently, he accepts that.

[L.Kizzle]

*sigh*

I'm done here. I'm not racist, I'm just sick of the way people are raising their children with hatred and divided lines. All because of the color of our skin.

Sorry Kizzle if I crossed the line. :cheers:
In bold is the number one answer a racist would give ...

And, who are these people, my people (or should I say your people since we're all the same, right.)

And, oh of course you didn't cross the line, calling me racist in every thread I post in is probably common right?

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

I guess I am, and damn you know a lot about me... lol

Anyways, I'm not trying to start a renaissance here, or say that I'm better than anyone.

I just wish people could see things the way they're really meant to be seen, as sappy as that sounds. And as much as Kizzle wants to deny it, deep down he lives a divided life, and apparently, he accepts that.


No one's accusing you of being better than anyone. That was never part of the question. You just have to understand that there's one world and that within that one world there are trillions of subdivisions. Guys who share common interests. Support groups. Black communities. Girls who have trimmed *****. Places where prepubescent kids can get together and ask themselves why my d!ck hasn't hit an inch yet. Asian restaurants and bars. Old men playing chess. Different degrees of loyalty and companinship. We grew up.. we were raised.. predisposed to associate and talk with people who looked like us. Recurring cycle in history right there. We've come along way and evolved since then as seen by friendships crosswide round the nation, but these thinsgs still exist today. Just understand that the culture is vast.

After all you don't want me to call you a Vodka-consuming, stinky, dirty, Commie when you're just a blarney-blooded, potato-eating, Guiness-drunken angry bastard. :D

[-primetime-]

In bold is the number one answer a racist would give ...

And, who are these people, my people (or should I say your people since we're all the same, right.)

And, oh of course you didn't cross the line, calling me racist in every thread I post in is probably common right?
uhhmm...

as a clan member who is trying to keep his racism hidden in the closet...what is the proper answer to give?

I have 4 black freinds btw...:D

[catzhernandez]

No one's accusing you of being better than anyone. That was never part of the question. You just have to understand that there's one world and that within that one world there are trillions of subdivisions. Guys who share common interests. Support groups. Black communities. Girls who have trimmed *****. Places where prepubescent kids can get together and ask themselves why my d!ck hasn't hit an inch yet. Asian restaurants and bars. Old men playing chess. Different degrees of loyalty and companinship. We grew up.. we were raised.. predisposed to associate and talk with people who looked like us. Recurring cycle in history right there. We've come along way and evolved since then as seen by friendships crosswide round the nation, but these thinsgs still exist today. Just understand that the culture is vast.

After all you don't want me to call you a Vodka-consuming, stinky, dirty, Commie when you're just a blarney-blooded, potato-eating, Guiness-drunken angry bastard. :D
You started to lose track near the end, but thanks for the condolences. :cheers:



And EVERY thread you post in, Kizzle? Nah. This is the third time I've called you out for being a closet racist, and on my behalf, rightly so.

Don't be ticked at me for calling you out, look at yourself and try to improve on that.

[L.Kizzle]

You really are as simple minded as I originally thought.

Must suck to be as ignorant and blatantly racist as you are.

Your parents must be proud of the gem they created.
LOL, I'm the simple minded one, when you think everyone is the same. A guy without a simple mind would see that everyone is different.

Of course, my life sucks as being a racist. Just hangin' out with blacks all day, it's boring, loud music a chicken, terrible. I should leave my suburban neighborhood and explore the world.

And yes, my parents are very disappointed in me, raising a racist kid and all.

[catzhernandez]

And yes, my parents are very disappointed in me, raising a racist kid and all.
You mean proud, right?

[blasian]

Neither one of you are racists(at least I don't think so) but you both need to chill with the accusations. This is simply a case of cultural misunderstanding.

Alright, now I'm really out. Carry on...

[L.Kizzle]

You mean proud, right?
Catz, you're getting a bit out of hand right now.

[big baller]

Im On A Boat!!

And as Blasian said, chill with the accusations.

[NY Comeback]

We're all a little bit racist deep down inside.

Accept it.

[-primetime-]

We're all a little bit racist deep down inside.

Accept it.
I will acccept that we are all guilty of steriotyping people...even if it is in your own race...

I'll accept that...

when people here accuse me of being a full blown "racist" I am not sure to what degree they are talking about though...

[starface]

Im On A Boat!!

And as Blasian said, chill with the accusations.


your a jags fan?

i used to post on the jags board.

whats ur user name?

[-primetime-]

I've never accused Catz of being racist, only after he's accuses me for the umpteenth time. Of course, this is the internet, so I'm not really mad, as I'll probably never meet Catz in my life, but if this were the real world, I'd feel really disrespected. Not only is dude talking about me, he bring my family and parents in, which is uncalled for with so called beef with me.

I've never had beef or (smack talked) with no on here on ISH, but Catz is really starting to piss me the **** off. If this was the real world, I'd be forced to whip up on him.
just wait until he drops the "only in Texas" bomb on your ass!!!

oh yeah baby...that missle is comin...:oldlol:

[big baller]

your a jags fan?

i used to post on the jags board.

whats ur user name?


No im not, I just thought tht this avy was ****ing gr8 :lol

[L.Kizzle]

Neither one of you are racists(at least I don't think so) but you both need to chill with the accusations. This is simply a case of cultural misunderstanding.

Alright, now I'm really out. Carry on...
I've never accused Catz of being racist, only after he's accuses me for the umpteenth time. Of course, this is the internet, so I'm not really mad, as I'll probably never meet Catz in my life, but if this were the real world, I'd feel really disrespected. Not only is dude talking about me, he bring my family and parents in, which is uncalled for with so called beef with me.

I've never had beef or (smack talked) with no on here on ISH, but Catz is really starting to piss me the ****s off. If this was the real world, I'd be forced to whip up on him.

[starface]

No im not, I just thought tht this avy was ****ing gr8 :lol


werd i used to post on dem boards, under the name 'necro'

[catzhernandez]

werd i used to post on dem boards, under the name 'necro'
Are you by chance a necrophiliac?

[nbastatus]

Chris Brown - 1 Rihanna - 0

[catzhernandez]

Chris Brown - 1 Rihanna - 0
:lol

That was a TKO...

[statman32]

It's real. LAPD posted a news release saying they are doing a internal investigation over the leak of the picture.

[knickballer]

I believe that is Rihanna's herpes kicking in.

[JJ81]

That is absolutely horrible:eek:

[Hawker]

What a f*cking a$$HOLE. Say goodbye to your career Brown.
You NEVER lay a hand on a girl...that why you have sisters or girl cousins...don't ever put your hands on a women. WTF.

So you wouldnt hit a woman if you caught her cheating on you?

If a girl knowingly gave me HIV or something, that might be called for laying a hand on a woman.

[Gunnin4HoLeS]

So you wouldnt hit a woman if you caught her cheating on you?

If a girl knowingly gave me HIV or something, that might be called for laying a hand on a woman.
If a girl gave me aids or HIV she deserves one of these http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/NasGOAT/42iwpf0.gif

Girl is cheating

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/NasGOAT/b.gif

[Hawker]

In bold is the number one answer a racist would give ...

And, who are these people, my people (or should I say your people since we're all the same, right.)

And, oh of course you didn't cross the line, calling me racist in every thread I post in is probably common right?

I'm not racist.

So I'm racist?

[Hotlantadude81]

Nah man sorry you're wrong. Rihanna is rising her status REALLY quickly in today's world in female music at the moment. Chris Brown isn't, but Rihanna is up there now. She isn't as known as Britney/Jessica/Christina IMO, but is going at a good rate.

Great company to be in. I'm now interested in hearing her music.:applause:

[Spudjjay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzfY-aXGcBY&feature=related

I respect Chris Brown.

[D-Rose]

Some black girl had this picture printed out and was showing it to everyone at school today lmao.

[J000]

God damn son. Chris Brown looked like a serene guy with his music and all. All the girls that he melted are probably baffled, god damn ***** literally ****ed her face, it doesn't look like a deadly slap or punch, more like a weapon involved in this. :oldlol:

[Spudjjay]

Some black girl had this picture printed out and was showing it to everyone at school today lmao.

"Some black girl"? WTF? Why couldn't she just be some girl? Check yourself.

[starface]

"Some black girl"? WTF? Why couldn't she just be some girl? Check yourself.


you're seriously offended by that?


you need a hobby.

[Hawker]

"Some black girl"? WTF? Why couldn't she just be some girl? Check yourself.

Quit acting like a white girl.

[twolvesfan]

LOL can someone please explain why its racist to point out the color of someones skin?

[starface]

LOL can someone please explain why its racist to point out the color of someones skin?

he's from boston.

they tend to get overworked and shrill over nothing. gotta be somethin in the water

[v-unit]

Who took this picture? Chris Brown? It looks like she was crying when it was taken or passed out.

[Spudjjay]

he's from boston.

they tend to get overworked and shrill over nothing. gotta be somethin in the water

BWAHAHA!

I live in NYC, but I agree, those Boston cat's are a mess. :roll:

[emsteez forreal]

what does that tattoo on her shoulder mean? and i just realized she has the same birthday as me, today :cheers:

[Gunnin4HoLeS]

Just heard on The news he can be charged for Attempted Murder:wtf: Is this going to be his Michael Vick moment?

[v-unit]

Wow. I'm kind of glad I got to witness a huge celebrity moment in my life that I will actually remember.

I was always too young to understand Jordan's impact. Wasn't around when Michael Jackson had that thing with the kids. Michael Vick, ye I witnessed that but i'm not a football fan. R.Kelly, I didn't even see the video of him peeing on a girl, let alone anything on the news (Too young).

FINALLY, I have something in my life that is pretty ****ed up that I will be able to talk about in full detail with.

[Knuck the Ficks]

Rihanna can be easily classified as a "first-tier" popstar.

Jessica Simpson? Really?? The only song of hers I can remember was that terrible cover of "These boots were made for walking"

[v-unit]

Jessica Simpson is a first tier female celebrity

[big baller]

Jessica Simpson is a first tier female celebrity


:no:

[twolvesfan]

Rihanna can be easily classified as a "first-tier" popstar.

Jessica Simpson? Really?? The only song of hers I can remember was that terrible cover of "These boots were made for walking"
go back 3-4 years and she was huge

[blasian]

:no:

No V-Unit is absolutely correct. She's famous for being famous. She wasnt extremely successful as a pop artist(if you check the sales, Rihanna absolutely owns her) but she's famous for her relationships and her reality show.

[big baller]

No V-Unit is absolutely correct. She's famous for being famous. She wasnt extremely successful as a pop artist(if you check the sales, Rihanna absolutely owns her) but she's famous for her relationships and her reality show.


no, im talking about RIGHT now, correct me if I am wrong, but she is not tht big anymore, although ya she was back then like another poster said.

[hito da god]

Jessica Simpson is a first tier female celebrity
maybe because of that TV show but sure as hell not because of her music.

and lol @ rihanna not being a superstar. she's in god damn cover girl commercials and has had numerous #1 singles :oldlol: she owned 2008.

[-primetime-]

Wow. I'm kind of glad I got to witness a huge celebrity moment in my life that I will actually remember.

I was always too young to understand Jordan's impact. Wasn't around when Michael Jackson had that thing with the kids. Michael Vick, ye I witnessed that but i'm not a football fan. R.Kelly, I didn't even see the video of him peeing on a girl, let alone anything on the news (Too young).

FINALLY, I have something in my life that is pretty ****ed up that I will be able to talk about in full detail with.
http://theblacksentinel.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/oj_simpson_narrowweb__300x4720.jpg

[ihatetimthomas]

http://theblacksentinel.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/oj_simpson_narrowweb__300x4720.jpg

If he wasnt around for both MJ's, then yea likely he was too young for this as well

[-primetime-]

that was in 1994...wow, doesn't seem that long ago at all

I feel old now...:(

there are people here that didn't go through the OJ murders...that is strange to me...


I am really going to start feeling old when there are alot of people that didn't witness 9/11...

[ihatetimthomas]

that was in 1994...wow, doesn't seem that long ago at all

I feel old now...:(

there are people here that didn't go through the OJ murders...that is strange to me...


I am really going to start feeling old when there are alot of people that didn't witness 9/11...

The OJ trial was HUGE and everyone was into it. Yea it is kinda weird when people dont know much about it

[bumpyknucks]

Am I the worlds last person to see this pic? The link on the first page isnt working for me and I can

[blasian]

http://theblacksentinel.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/oj_simpson_narrowweb__300x4720.jpg

I think I was in 2nd grade when the OJ trial occurred. At the time I was one of the few black kids at a mostly white school. Me and my friends used to play this game called "OJ." It was kind of like tag, only in this version, I was "OJ" and my job was to chase the white girls until I "caught" them. I think one of my teachers eventually found out and shut the game down....

[v-unit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC1pbzu6DWE

There are videos of it in slideshow form now.

[blasian]

[QUOTE=bumpyknucks]Am I the worlds last person to see this pic? The link on the first page isnt working for me and I can

[-primetime-]

I think I was in 2nd grade when the OJ trial occurred. At the time I was one of the few black kids at a mostly white school. Me and my friends used to play this game called "OJ." It was kind of like tag, only in this version, I was "OJ" and my job was to chase the white girls until I "caught" them. I think one of my teachers eventually found out and shut the game down....
good god...that seems like something that would make the news...

were you offended at that young age or were you just having fun doing this?

[blasian]

good god...that seems like something that would make the news...

were you offended at that young age or were you just having fun doing this?

Lol, we were just having fun. I was too young to realize the connotations of our "game"

[AznTacoLover]

Yeah could be fake.. but damn chris brown beat the crap outta her,.

[twolvesfan]

Yeah could be fake.. but damn chris brown beat the crap outta her,.
its not fake. cops are doing an internal investigation to see who leaked it

[R.i.p. B.i.g.]

DAMN!!!!! i never thought i would say rihannas ugly

[Big Al All day]

Ya, you guys are really starting to beat a dead horse.

oooooooooooooh look at this ****!

Bringing in the suttle jokes! Hats off to you.

[i seen hippos]

oooooooooooooh look at this ****!

Bringing in the suttle jokes! Hats off to you.

Doesn't even bother to read the quote in my post. lol

[-primetime-]

somebody dun fuked up at lapd
that is no f*ck up...

that is a dirty cop who got paid...

[dyna]

are you talking about talent or celebrity?

if you're talking talent, then i cant say because i dont listen to much pop.

if you're talking about fame, Riahanna is nowhere close to the first tier. First tier is like Britney Spears and Beyonce, Jessica Simpson.

Rihanna is a nobody.

Man you don't see tv right???:eek:

Rihanna is first tier for sure, she is in the league of Britney, Byonce and she's a lot more famous than Jessica for sure, she's a average singer but on celebrity status and fame she's on the first tier for sure, she ha multiple #1 on Billboard, like 3 or 4 songs #1 f not more.:hammerhead:

[-primetime-]

Man you don't see tv right???:eek:

Rihanna is first tier for sure, she is in the league of Britney, Byonce and she's a lot more famous than Jessica for sure, she's a average singer but on celebrity status and fame she's on the first tier for sure, she ha multiple #1 on Billboard, like 3 or 4 songs #1 f not more.:hammerhead:
I really feel that you are wrong...

maybe in the music industry she is, but just as far as celebrity statis goes I think there are a whole hell of alot of people that have no idea who Rihanna is...

Jessica and beyounce have been in movies and hosted SNL...Letterman...Leno...ect...

Rihanna just isn't there yet..although after this she could get up there I guess...but I doubt it

http://www.123posters.com/images/music/m-jessica4.jpg

http://img1.jurko.net/wall/uploads/wallpaper_9092.jpg


Rihanna has some work to do before she becomes a household name...

[starface]

Man you don't see tv right???:eek:

Rihanna is first tier for sure, she is in the league of Britney, Byonce and she's a lot more famous than Jessica for sure, she's a average singer but on celebrity status and fame she's on the first tier for sure, she ha multiple #1 on Billboard, like 3 or 4 songs #1 f not more.:hammerhead:


i hate myself for arguing with every person who is just not getting this, but i'll do it anyway.

you are just straight up wrong. there is no ifs, ands or buts. its not a debate. rihanna is not a A-list, household name celebrity. Period.

Anyone who says Rihanna is more well known than Jessica Simpson is just flat out wrong. Again, this is not a debate. That is factual information. Cut and dried.

[Knuck the Ficks]

i hate myself for arguing with every person who is just not getting this, but i'll do it anyway.

you are just straight up wrong. there is no ifs, ands or buts. its not a debate. rihanna is not a A-list, household name celebrity. Period.

Anyone who says Rihanna is more well known than Jessica Simpson is just flat out wrong. Again, this is not a debate. That is factual information. Cut and dried.
It's amazing that you're able to write so many words without giving one proper reason why Rihanna isn't A-list. "It's factual", "you are just wrong" and "its not a debate" are not reasons.

Rihanna has sold a hell of a lot more albums. You think people in Japan/Europe have heard of Jessica Simpson?

Rihanna is easily an A-list celebrity. I think you're just pretending not to know of her in order to seem cool.

[Spiritinthesky]

I'm not sure myself?

[mhg88]

"You gave me herpes b*tch!"

:oldlol: Hilarious picture.

[brantonli]

Whoa, Rihanna is one first tier Spears and Beyonce and Madonna? For me, to be considered an 'A-list' celebrity you have to be known world wide, and I mean so damn world wide that people who hate rock music living in North Korea or something like that have heard of them

[Maniak]

Rihanna is like B+ list right now imo

[blasian]

this article is kind of disturbing.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/health/chi-teen-domestic-violence-20-feb20,0,1424689.story




Ed Loos, a junior at Lake Forest High School, said a common reaction among students to Chris Brown's alleged attack on Rihanna goes something like this: "Ha! She probably did something to provoke it."

In Chicago, Sullivan High School sophomore Adeola Matanmi has heard the same.

"People said, 'I would have punched her around too,' " Matanmi said. "And these were girls!"

As allegations of battery swirl around the famous couple, experts on domestic violence say the response from teenagers just a few years younger shows the desperate need to educate this age group about dating violence.

Their acceptance, or even approval, of abuse in romantic relationships is not a universal reaction. But it comes at a time when 1 in 10 teenagers has suffered such abuse and females ages 16 to 24 experience the highest rates of any age group, research shows.

In recent years, some schools and youth organizations have started educating teens about the dangers of dating violence. Rhode Island and Virginia have adopted laws requiring such instruction in the public schools.

But most states, including Illinois, don't have such a mandate, and education on the topic remains in short supply, experts say. Two of three new programs created by the federal Violence Against Women Act in 2005 to address teen dating violence were never funded.

"This incident has brought the issue into sharp focus," said Esta Soler, president of the California-based Family Violence Prevention Fund. "This type of education is not happening in any broad or consistent way. We need to take it to scale, to make sure it's happening in every community."

Details of the incident between singers Brown and Rihanna are fuzzy, but the story continues to create much buzz among teens across the Chicago area. Because she's 21 and he's 19, many teens see them as peers.

Katie Lullo, a junior at Elk Grove High School, said her classmates and friends were upset. "No one thinks it's right for a guy to hit a girl," she said. And when the topic arose at an after-school program at Evanston's YMCA, many participants said abuse was "bogus."

But other teens insist violence is sometimes justified in relationships.

While young fans have plastered Rihanna's MySpace page with notes of support, many comments on Brown's page express delight at the possibility that he battered a woman.

Kriana Jackson, a sophomore at Sullivan, said it's a sign of a broader culture of acceptance of abuse.

"There was a girl at school this week with a scratch on her eye," Jackson said. "She was talking openly about her boyfriend hitting her, but she was smiling and saying it was funny."

Young people carry these attitudes into adulthood, experts say, and young targets of dating violence are more likely to succumb to aggression in later relationships.

For that reason, experts see education and other prevention initiatives geared at teens and preteens as one of the best hopes for halting dating and domestic violence.

"We know that education is absolutely crucial to breaking the cycle of abuse and strengthening healthy relationships," said Candice Hopkins, director of loveisrespect.org, the National Teen Dating Abuse Helpline, which started in 2007 and receives about 90 contacts a week.

Because young victims move in a different world than that of older people, they require unique interventions.

Text messaging and online social-networking sites, especially popular among teenagers, serve as tools for stalking and harassment. Victims often keep quiet, fearing that if they report another student's aggressive behavior, they will be socially ostracized—or that their parents will confiscate their cell phone or close a Facebook account.

Teens also can have a harder time severing contact with an abuser. Many are forced to see the perpetrator every day at school, sometimes in the same class. Young adults seeking an order of protection from Cook County judges must bring a guardian to apply on their behalf.

Last summer, the president of the National Association of Attorneys General launched a campaign called "Working Together to End the Violence" and specifically called on communities to focus on relationship abuse among young people. More recently, the Family Violence Prevention Fund launched a national public-service advertising campaign this month called "That's Not Cool" to help teens recognize digital dating abuse and take steps to prevent it.

The Chicago-based group Between Friends is among the non-profit organizations that go into schools to teach students about the signs of abusive control, why it's wrong and how to cultivate heathy relationships.

"When we first get there, it's not unusual for kids—both boys and girls—to say it's OK to hit your girlfriend or boyfriend," said Kathy Doherty, the organization's executive director. "By the time we're done, they say, yes, it is abuse, and, no, we shouldn't do that."

As Doherty and others work to expand such programming, they hope teachers, parents and others use the story about Brown and Rihanna to talk to teens about dating violence.

Loos said his law teacher at Lake Forest recently incorporated the story into class.

But when students brought it up in Chelsea Whitis' economics class at Lane Tech High School in Chicago, the teacher brushed it aside.

"He said the celebrities were getting too much attention and didn't want us to talk about it," Whitis said.

[twolvesfan]

:no: unless a woman has a weapon and is trying to kill you, you DO NOT ever lay a hand on them

[Maniak]

:no: unless a woman has a weapon and is trying to kill you, you DO NOT ever lay a hand on them

Words of a virgin...

[twolvesfan]

Words of a virgin...
words of a convict

[Hawker]

:no: unless a woman has a weapon and is trying to kill you, you DO NOT ever lay a hand on them

There are definitely other reasons to lay a hand on them.

[catzhernandez]

Words of a virgin...
You have some problems if you think otherwise.

I mean, of course there are other reasons... But to brutally beat your girl in an argument... Disgusting. Takes a real ***** to hit a female.

[Fallguy20]

While I believe its NEVER okay to hit a woman, if I was placed on the jury then I wouldnt convict Chris Brown supposing she gave him an incurable STD.

[kentatm]

man if that is legit... jesus.

[C-Webb4]

words of a convict
+1. The only circumstances that you have any right to put a hand on a woman is if your life is somehow being threatened. Other than that, it's never warranted.

[Hawker]

+1. The only circumstances that you have any right to put a hand on a woman is if your life is somehow being threatened. Other than that, it's never warranted.

So if you're married and you walk in on your wife having sex with some dude...it isn't warranted? And dont tell me you hit the dude b/c it aint his fault.

[C-Webb4]

So if you're married and you walk in on your wife having sex with some dude...it isn't warranted? And dont tell me you hit the dude b/c it aint his fault.
Yes, i'm telling you that if I walk in on my wife cheating on me, beating the **** out of her isn't warranted. I don't know what kind of values you grew up with if you think it is.

[Hawker]

Yes, i'm telling you that if I walk in on my wife cheating on me, beating the **** out of her isn't warranted. I don't know what kind of values you grew up with if you think it is.

You said, "lay a hand." Not "beating the **** out of her."

I would definitely, "lay a hand on her."

Women dont get a pass for being a woman. They want equal rights, they'll get them.

[C-Webb4]

You said, "lay a hand." Not "beating the **** out of her."

I would definitely, "lay a hand on her."

Women dont get a pass for being a woman. They want equal rights, they'll get them.
The topic is regarding what Chris Brown did to Rihanna, and from what the description has been (and if that pic is real), he did more than "lay a hand." Equal rights is in regards to freedom of speech, equal pay, equal work opportunities, etc.. Women are by nature weaker than us (yes I know there are always some bodybuilder exceptions), and therefore they aren't at an equal level of strength. It's not right to beat on a woman for doing something that makes you upset, especially when they can't fight back.

[Hawker]

The topic is regarding what Chris Brown did to Rihanna, and from what the description has been (and if that pic is real), he did more than "lay a hand." Equal rights is in regards to freedom of speech, equal pay, equal work opportunities, etc.. Women are by nature weaker than us (yes I know there are always some bodybuilder exceptions), and therefore they aren't at an equal level of strength. It's not right to beat on a woman for doing something that makes you upset, especially when they can't fight back.

You need to read your post over again. You clearly said, "lay a hand" and when I quote something and make a post about it that's what I'm referring to, the quote.

Uh, there's a difference between, "making you upset" and being cheated on. The girl knew she was doing something she shouldn't be doing and she knew that it would piss off her husband to no end. You think that doesnt deserve a consequence. To me it does.

[C-Webb4]

Uh, there's a difference between, "making you upset" and being cheated on. The girl knew she was doing something she shouldn't be doing and she knew that it would piss off her husband but she does it anyways. You think that doesnt deserve a consequence. To me it does.
Obviously it deserves a "consequence" but that consequence shouldn't be physical violence.

[-primetime-]

The topic is regarding what Chris Brown did to Rihanna, and from what the description has been (and if that pic is real), he did more than "lay a hand." Equal rights is in regards to freedom of speech, equal pay, equal work opportunities, etc.. Women are by nature weaker than us (yes I know there are always some bodybuilder exceptions), and therefore they aren't at an equal level of strength. It's not right to beat on a woman for doing something that makes you upset, especially when they can't fight back.
http://www.canadastarboxing.com/images/fighters/Laila-Ali-02-0503b.jpg

"say that to my face"

_____________________

hawk...

if you catch your girl cheating on you then just shrug it off...walk out of the room...and head to the bar.

no kind of "hand" should be layed down on any girl for cheating...

yeah it sucks, but oh well, that's life...

[ihatetimthomas]

You need to read your post over again. You clearly said, "lay a hand" and when I quote something and make a post about it that's what I'm referring to, the quote.

Uh, there's a difference between, "making you upset" and being cheated on. The girl knew she was doing something she shouldn't be doing and she knew that it would piss off her husband to no end. You think that doesnt deserve a consequence. To me it does.

Have you ever even had a girlfriend?

[C-Webb4]

Have you ever even had a girlfriend?
If he has, I feel sorry for her.

[Hawker]

Have you ever even had a girlfriend?

Yes, it's been awhile.

[Hawker]

If he has, I feel sorry for her.

Right, since me thinking that I would hit her after she CHEATED on me makes me a bad boyfriend. Great reasoning.

[LaLuzdeLucyfer]

Foolish, pathetic, imbecilic white knights! What do they use to describe a male that won't hit the one giving birth?. A Chivalrous being, right? More like Frivolous! Once again the naivety and foolishness of your race provokes a smirk on my mandible and a rolling of eyes between my temples.. There is only one type of cowardice, and that is to let go of your steadfast beliefs in times of inconvenience and suffering. You humans do not understand that you will forever operate in hierarchies, and the "free spirits" that come and go are only an exaggerated figment of your imagination. You lead only one life and if one stains your honor, steps over you in a relationship, commits sneaky action, or outright disrespects you, then it is not only an option BUT your solemn duty to check a b!tch. You are equal humans after all. Would you let Laila Ali or Rasputia scourge you in the boxing ring? Would you let a financially endowed girlfriend slap you in public and carry you around as she would a chihuahua in a purse? Would a simple array of verbal assault suffice as punishment for someone who hath thoroughly disgraced your beloved friends? Where is your pride, where is your swagger Catz and Christopher Webber? This universal moral agenda is becoming a more laughable scheme than the failures who couldn't take down Franz Ferdinand.

[C-Webb4]

Right, since me thinking that I would hit her after she CHEATED on me makes me a bad boyfriend. Great reasoning.
You thinking that there's any justifiable reason beyond a life threatening situation to hit a woman would indeed qualify you as a bad boyfriend.

[GOBB]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0220_rihanna_after_beating2.jpg

Rihanna Emerges


Posted Feb 21st 2009 9:00AM by TMZ Staff

With her head down and wearing sunglasses, Rihanna was spotted on her way to an airport in the L.A. area on Thursday -- the night before her 21st birthday.

[v-unit]

She'll probably go out and get smashed for her birthday.

[blasian]

She'll probably go out and get smashed for her birthday.

Pun intended?

[NY Comeback]

Pun intended?
:roll:

[LJJ]

Oh lord. That was ice cold v-unit. :lol

[blasian]

uh oh....
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.8611/title.leaked-picture-may-get-chris-brown-off

[QUOTE]The recent and unauthorized release of an LAPD photo of Rihanna after an alleged domestic encounter with fellow singer Chris Brown may have been enough to keep the incident from every seeing the inside of a courtroom.

According to an LAPD source, Brown, even if guilty, may walk due to the leak of the photo.

"The most unfortunate aspect of the entire incident is not only the total disrespect for the victim, Rihanna, but the legal ramifications related to jury pool pollution the public revelation of this photo obviously has on the possible upcoming criminal case against alleged attacker, Chris Brown.

[-primetime-]

I don't get it???

why the hell would that clear this whole thing???

makes no sense...

:(

[v-unit]

Proof has to be legally obtained or some ****. Learned about it in law last year. Just like if a cop searched you for no reason looking for drugs but found a sniper rifle, he can't do anything about it.

[-primetime-]

so if a murder takes place and some cop leaks the photos of the victims then the murderer has nothing to worry about?

[v-unit]

Pretty much. THere are alot of little rules like this that make almost every big time case ****ed up.

[Dasher]

I don't get it???

why the hell would that clear this whole thing???

makes no sense...

:(It can be argued that Chris would never get a fair trial now that the pictures are out. The jury pool is now tainted because it is now impossible to not have formed an opinion now that the pictures of her face are now in circulation.

[-primetime-]

It can be argued that Chris would never get a fair trial now that the pictures are out. The jury pool is now tainted because it is now impossible to not have formed an opinion now that the pictures of her face are now in circulation.
they were able to hunt down 10 people for the OJ trial that somehow didn't know anything about it...:confusedshrug: