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Duality0234
02-25-2009, 05:21 PM
Discuss.

Hawker
02-25-2009, 05:25 PM
Depends which type of physics. Mechanics or electricity and optics?

If it's mechanics then pre-cal is harder but if it's electricity and optics physics, physics is harder.

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 05:25 PM
be more specific.

What level of physics? The garbage you learn in high school? University level calculus based physics? Semiconductor physics? Quantum physics?

canadianballer
02-25-2009, 05:33 PM
i slept thru physics.. wouldnt know and sure as phuck not gonna take pre calculus

mhg88
02-25-2009, 05:36 PM
Pre-Calc was an absolute breeze. Physics was harder for me.

Hawker
02-25-2009, 05:37 PM
lol glove, why'd you delete your post?

mhg88
02-25-2009, 05:38 PM
lol Glove_20 = original poster. Dumbass forgot to use his other name and deleted the post. "uhh I've never taken a physics class before, so it's just entry level physics I guess" so much for mr. smart guy :oldlol:

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 05:40 PM
lol Glove_20 = original poster. Dumbass forgot to use his other name and deleted the post. "uhh I've never taken a physics class before, so it's just entry level physics I guess" so much for mr. smart guy :oldlol:

lol

Glove_20
02-25-2009, 05:41 PM
Obviously that was a joke :oldlol:


I do that often if you haven't noticed

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 05:42 PM
Obviously that was a joke :oldlol:


I do that often if you haven't noticed

ok.

Glove_20
02-25-2009, 05:42 PM
To answer the question, Physics (1st year) is generally harder than Pre-Calc


Though both were very easy to me.

mhg88
02-25-2009, 05:43 PM
Obviously that was a joke :oldlol:


I do that often if you haven't noticed

No, I haven't noticed...and I'd consider that more of a waste of time than a "joke". Weird sense of humor. :confusedshrug:

ruslan
02-25-2009, 05:46 PM
i take pre calc right now and its a ***** kinda

lilojmayo
02-25-2009, 05:50 PM
Discuss.

Yeah it really depends on the level. Your obviously talking about high school ala Pre Calc.

I, lilojmayo is a very reliable source on this topic because just last school year i took Physics I and Pre Calc (Honors)

All I got to say is Pre Calc (H) shyts on Physics I 10/10

but this year i'm taking AP Calculus BCand AP Physics II and Physics II shyts on Calculus 10/10 times. You can't compare the two Physics is such a beast especially this Electromagnetic shyt. I have a test tomorrow actually i'm probably going to fail it. I have never gotten anything less than a B on a Calculus test this year.

LaLuzdeLucyfer
02-25-2009, 05:58 PM
If you're in high school chances are Pre-Calc will be more difficult unless you're taking AP Physics,, because technically sin, cos, tan, sec, the whole shebang regarding early calc, factorials are a bit new. Whereas if you take like a low level Physica you're bound to talk about Newton and freakin' Bohr and basic FBD sh!t, Kinematics etc.

College-wise Physics quickly becomes far more the difficult course.

Fatal9
02-25-2009, 05:59 PM
In university, I found calc a bit harder than physics. I don't find the material in calc to be hard, but just find it impossible to maintain motivation doing all those repetitive and dry problem sets (ended up doing 1 maybe 2 sets all year). I prefer courses where calc is a tool, like in physics and economics because I NEED real world applications no matter what I'm learning. I am thinking of revisiting calc next year though and take an upper year courses in it.

In physics difficulty for me went like:
Waves/Oscillation > Nuclear Physics > Electromagnetism (most enjoyable imo) > Mechanics

Haven't taken a rigorous quantum course (probably never will).

If you're talking high school, both courses are a joke.

Fatal9
02-25-2009, 06:10 PM
Can anyone from the USA post their physics tests on here (1st year). I want to note the difference in difficulty between Canadian universities and American ones, if it exists.

Hawker
02-25-2009, 07:50 PM
Can anyone from the USA post their physics tests on here (1st year). I want to note the difference in difficulty between Canadian universities and American ones, if it exists.

I would bet they are generally the same difficulty if you compare top engineering/physics universities in both nations.


Anybody use mastering physics/university physics?

i seen hippos
02-25-2009, 08:30 PM
I got an 82 in first year physics (mostly your basic mechanical physics minus a few chapters).

Not bad for not going to one class the second semester, not studying for the final exam and not taking any science or math classes in grade 12. lol

Basic math I'm easy with, but **** calc and ****. That stuff I'd have to study hours for to call it easy. I remember in grade 11 math (when you first really start doing a lot of that ****) I had a 72 going into the final exam and I decided not to study and just put down anwers as quickly as possibe. I got 28% on the exam and finished with a 62. lol

Glove_20
02-25-2009, 08:51 PM
I got an 82 in first year physics (mostly your basic mechanical physics minus a few chapters).

Not bad for not going to one class the second semester, not studying for the final exam and not taking any science or math classes in grade 12. lol

Basic math I'm easy with, but **** calc and ****. That stuff I'd have to study hours for to call it easy. I remember in grade 11 math (when you first really start doing a lot of that ****) I had a 72 going into the final exam and I decided not to study and just put down anwers as quickly as possibe. I got 28% on the exam and finished with a 62. lol

Wow you're stupid. Even without studying I would be able to ace Calculus exams. Calculus is easy.

i seen hippos
02-25-2009, 08:55 PM
Wow you're stupid. Even without studying I would be able to ace Calculus exams. Calculus is easy.

Every time we have this argument I say you can take Gary Payton and math. I never pretend to admit I have any interest in either.

And like always I dare you to debate me on any outside of that and like always you'll respond to someone else calling you out to avoid my challenge.

You're stupid. Admit it. If mommy and daddy didn't chain your Indian ass to your chair every night and force you to do 8 hours of homework you'd be in my boat. But I thank the lord they did. Your exchanges with the next Rockefeller are priceless...if only they were meant to be satirical.

RidonKs
02-25-2009, 08:59 PM
I might actually ask this here -

Say I were debating majoring in Physics for an undergrad. I've never taken a course in HS, and have no more than elementary knowledge of the subject matter. I took Pre-Cal first year and got a B- while putting in virtually no work (that won't happen again obviously if I decide to major in a science/math - I have a newfound respect for those subject). Do you guys think I would need to take a HS equivalency course before I enter the introductory classes in first year, or would I be able to get by with hard work but no foundation? Forget requirements, I'm just curious about difficulty at this point.

Glove_20
02-25-2009, 09:02 PM
Every time we have this argument I say you can take Gary Payton and math. I never pretend to admit I have any interest in either.

And like always I dare you to debate me on any outside of that and like always you'll respond to someone else calling you out to avoid my challenge.

You're stupid. Admit it. If mommy and daddy didn't chain your Indian ass to your chair every night and force you to do 8 hours of homework you'd be in my boat. But I thank the lord they did. Your exchanges with the next Rockefeller are priceless...if only they were meant to be satirical.

Didn't I just say I would ace Calc exams without studying? And homework? Who did that in HS?

I own you everywhere besides Music (because I only listen to indian music, so that's understandable) and emo-ness.

DeuceWallaces
02-25-2009, 09:03 PM
Got a bunch of **** talkers on here, but I've never seen anyone post a test, transcripts, degrees, term papers, assistantship awards, etc.

Glove_20
02-25-2009, 09:04 PM
I might actually ask this here -

Say I were debating majoring in Physics for an undergrad. I've never taken a course in HS, and have no more than elementary knowledge of the subject matter. I took Pre-Cal first year and got a B- while putting in virtually no work (that won't happen again obviously if I decide to major in a science/math - I have a newfound respect for those subject). Do you guys think I would need to take a HS equivalency course before I enter the introductory classes in first year, or would I be able to get by with hard work but no foundation? Forget requirements, I'm just curious about difficulty at this point.

RiDonks me and you rarely get along, but I can give you really good advice on this topic if you're willing to listen (Off of someone else's knowledge/experience)

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 09:04 PM
Got a bunch of **** talkers on here, but I've never seen anyone post a test, transcripts, degrees, term papers, assistantship awards, etc.

the only one I want to see is Glove's

RidonKs
02-25-2009, 09:05 PM
RiDonks me and you rarely get along, but I can give you really good advice on this topic if you're willing to listen (Off of someone else's knowledge/experience)
Sure, go for it.

i seen hippos
02-25-2009, 09:06 PM
Didn't I just say I would ace Calc exams without studying? And homework? Who did that in HS?

I own you everywhere besides Music (because I only listen to indian music, so that's understandable) and emo-ness.

No, everything outside of math and Gary Payton I own you in.

Everything.

Gunnin4HoLeS
02-25-2009, 09:07 PM
Economics-Macro

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 09:12 PM
Got a bunch of **** talkers on here, but I've never seen anyone post a test, transcripts, degrees, term papers, assistantship awards, etc.

Here's one of my semiconductor physics homeworks from last year.
http://i41.tinypic.com/14j3ewn.jpg
I would say it was harder than intro physics, but less difficult than particle and waves physics.

Glove_20
02-25-2009, 09:19 PM
I might actually ask this here -

Say I were debating majoring in Physics for an undergrad. I've never taken a course in HS, and have no more than elementary knowledge of the subject matter. I took Pre-Cal first year and got a B- while putting in virtually no work (that won't happen again obviously if I decide to major in a science/math - I have a newfound respect for those subject). Do you guys think I would need to take a HS equivalency course before I enter the introductory classes in first year, or would I be able to get by with hard work but no foundation? Forget requirements, I'm just curious about difficulty at this point.

Ok "All" this isn't really related to what you were asking for.


1. Where did you get this newfound respect for the topics? :oldlol:

I remember you always hated on them.

2. Well it's good you finally found out they are good subjects to major in.

3. Why are they good subjects to major in? Well obviously because of the reasons you found respect for them. One, they are very rigourous, and some of the hardest majors in college. Not only are they intellectually demanding, graduate schools and jobs look favorable at those and have respect for you and your intelligence just off the fact you majored in those topics (with a respectable GPA). And it's justifiable, because if you did major in those topics, you are pretty smart.

4. I know that you don't plan on doing math or physics for the rest of your life without you telling me. (Am I right?)


5.


I'd recommend Math over Physics though. Though I guess it depends on where you are going after this. You could do either though. But if you are planning on doctor/dentistry, then probably Physics because it has more overall science class requirments. Otherwise, math is arguably the most versatile yet rigorous major there is. I can't think of a major that has a better combo of versatilty/rigooursness than math.









6. Now to your real question.

They are both difficult majors. And you are going to find that you kind of naturally have to be smart to do well at them. I know a lot of friends that took Physics, Math, tried very hard, but didn't do too well. Some of them had the same HS background as you.

Foundation is obviously really important and it kind of sucks you don't have one. But it can be overcome by

a) Natural Intelligence
b) Hard Work

Both are for you to decide. How smart do you think you are naturally in topics such as Math/Physics that require analytical and quantiative thinking?

And how hard are you willing to work? That's for you to decide as well. If you turn out not as smart as you thought, then you better be working a lot harder.



7.

What I'd suggest is just try a Physics, and Calc class. Give it your best. And then decide. Obviously the majors are very beneficial, so it's worth it to do either.

But besides that, take a Physics, Math class, aim for a 3.5 or higher (since it's introductory), even mid 3.0-3.5 is acceptable since you haven't taken them in a while. But after that, decide if you think you can master this topic.

If you are able to, you won't regret it.

DeuceWallaces
02-25-2009, 09:24 PM
Here's one of my semiconductor physics homeworks from last year.
http://i41.tinypic.com/14j3ewn.jpg
I would say it was harder than intro physics, but less difficult than particle and waves physics.

I guess that's a start.

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 09:50 PM
I guess that's a start.

I still want to see Gloves

DeuceWallaces
02-25-2009, 09:52 PM
I still want to see Gloves

I think we're all pretty sure he's full of ****.

Glove_20
02-25-2009, 09:54 PM
I still want to see Gloves
:confusedshrug:
See what? My homework from 7 years ago?

Hawker
02-25-2009, 09:54 PM
I might actually ask this here -

Say I were debating majoring in Physics for an undergrad. I've never taken a course in HS, and have no more than elementary knowledge of the subject matter. I took Pre-Cal first year and got a B- while putting in virtually no work (that won't happen again obviously if I decide to major in a science/math - I have a newfound respect for those subject). Do you guys think I would need to take a HS equivalency course before I enter the introductory classes in first year, or would I be able to get by with hard work but no foundation? Forget requirements, I'm just curious about difficulty at this point.

I was able to get Cs in my intro physics courses that were required for engineering and I only took a conceptual physics class in HS (regular, not pre ap or AP or IB or honors) where I learned nothing. I worked my ass off for those Cs too.

If you're willing to put in the work, you can pass and that's for sure. Depending on how hard you work and how smart you are and what prof you have then you can get As and Bs.

Hawker
02-25-2009, 09:58 PM
Applenader, have you taken thermodynamics?

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 10:00 PM
:confusedshrug:
See what? My homework from 7 years ago?

some example of your college work

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 10:00 PM
Applenader, have you taken thermodynamics?

no , didn't need to

Glove_20
02-25-2009, 10:01 PM
some example of your college work
Because everyone keeps their college exams/homework for life? :oldlol:

What is it? You think I never went to college and took calculus, physics, etc. ?

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 10:03 PM
Because everyone keeps their college exams/homework for life? :oldlol:

What is it? You think I never went to college and took calculus, physics, etc. ?

So what school did you go to?

Glove_20
02-25-2009, 10:03 PM
So what school did you go to?
UW for undergrad

i seen hippos
02-25-2009, 10:04 PM
So what school did you go to?

Internetz U


http://www.emanuelblagonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/google-homepage.jpg

GOBB
02-25-2009, 10:05 PM
Glove_20 put up or shut up. You always run your mouth and repeat the same shyt in thread like this. I mean everything was so easy that you didnt have to do this, that and the third (lame ass bragging/boasting towards others who put in time, didnt get the grade u got and/or found it difficult). Yet its not easy to back up the shyt you talk here.

You are a f*cking mensa member who passed up a Rhodes Scholarship because to you? Well you didnt have to prove to those losers you were smarter than them. Nothing was being taught you didnt know ahead of time. Investment banker who could have been a Bio Chemical Engineer but that was for suckers who couldnt hack it as an Investment Banker.

You never lose when gambling. You are ALWAYS up. And if you go 0-10? Well that doesnt matter because you won your *locks* which are 2, 3 times the amount you bet on regular games. Yanno those 10 losses? That "loss" in $$$$ was negated from the *locks* you made. So you made out. I mean you ALWAYS do. I've never met a person who gambled on sports regulary not lose. Never a down week. A down month. A down year. It doesnt exist.

Everything in life is easy to Glove_20 yet he never proves a thing. You just yap yap yap or in other words type type type. Show us visual proof of the things you do. You can EASILY (your favorite word no?) do it but always have an excuse. Much like when your teams come up short after your bogus gurantees go flop (the sound of a turd hitting the water).

Same clown who says you never met no one your size stronger than you. I've never heard that. Who says crap like that?

Enough of you typing. Start uploading and proving the things you post here. I mean afterall all those things were EASY to do. Why shouldnt this be the same?


And dont mistake this post for me saying everything you type is a lie. Its moreso to say you have done enough shyt talking here. Now its time to back it up. Put up or shut the f*ck up.

AppleNader
02-25-2009, 10:05 PM
Internetz U


http://www.emanuelblagonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/google-homepage.jpg

prob

i seen hippos
02-25-2009, 10:07 PM
Glove_20 put up or shut up. You always run your mouth and repeat the same shyt in thread like this. I mean everything was so easy that you didnt have to do this, that and the third (lame ass bragging/boasting towards others who put in time, didnt get the grade u got and/or found it difficult). Yet its not easy to back up the shyt you talk here.

You are a f*cking mensa member who passed up a Rhodes Scholarship because to you? Well you didnt have to prove to those losers you were smarter than them. Nothing was being taught you didnt know ahead of time. Investment banker who could have been a Bio Chemical Engineer but that was for suckers who couldnt hack it as an Investment Banker.

You never lose when gambling. You are ALWAYS up. And if you go 0-10? Well that doesnt matter because you won your *locks* which are 2, 3 times the amount you bet on regular games. Yanno those 10 losses? That "loss" in $$$$ was negated from the *locks* you made. So you made out. I mean you ALWAYS do. I've never met a person who gambled on sports regulary not lose. Never a down week. A down month. A down year. It doesnt exist.

Everything in life is easy to Glove_20 yet he never proves a thing. You just yap yap yap or in other words type type type. Show us visual proof of the things you do. You can EASILY (your favorite word no?) do it but always have an excuse. Much like when your teams come up short after your bogus gurantees go flop (the sound of a turd hitting the water).

Enough of you typing. Start uploading and proving the things you post here. I mean afterall all those things were EASY to do. Why shouldnt this be the same?


Glove_20: "........emo."

KeylessEntry
02-25-2009, 10:46 PM
This is a kind of wierd question, because you are comparing a given level of math in pre-calculus, with any level of Physics class. Let me tell you there are some college physics classes that are insanely hard, these classes make Pre-calc look like kindergarten. If you are taking Physics in high school, its probably going to only use algebra and therefore be much easier than a precalculus class.

I think in general physics is harder than pre calc simply because its a broader field. If you want to compare math in general vs physics I would still pick physics.

mhg88
02-25-2009, 11:16 PM
Glove_20 put up or shut up. You always run your mouth and repeat the same shyt in thread like this. I mean everything was so easy that you didnt have to do this, that and the third (lame ass bragging/boasting towards others who put in time, didnt get the grade u got and/or found it difficult). Yet its not easy to back up the shyt you talk here.

You are a f*cking mensa member who passed up a Rhodes Scholarship because to you? Well you didnt have to prove to those losers you were smarter than them. Nothing was being taught you didnt know ahead of time. Investment banker who could have been a Bio Chemical Engineer but that was for suckers who couldnt hack it as an Investment Banker.

You never lose when gambling. You are ALWAYS up. And if you go 0-10? Well that doesnt matter because you won your *locks* which are 2, 3 times the amount you bet on regular games. Yanno those 10 losses? That "loss" in $$$$ was negated from the *locks* you made. So you made out. I mean you ALWAYS do. I've never met a person who gambled on sports regulary not lose. Never a down week. A down month. A down year. It doesnt exist.

Everything in life is easy to Glove_20 yet he never proves a thing. You just yap yap yap or in other words type type type. Show us visual proof of the things you do. You can EASILY (your favorite word no?) do it but always have an excuse. Much like when your teams come up short after your bogus gurantees go flop (the sound of a turd hitting the water).

Same clown who says you never met no one your size stronger than you. I've never heard that. Who says crap like that?

Enough of you typing. Start uploading and proving the things you post here. I mean afterall all those things were EASY to do. Why shouldnt this be the same?


And dont mistake this post for me saying everything you type is a lie. Its moreso to say you have done enough shyt talking here. Now its time to back it up. Put up or shut the f*ck up.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

rawimpact
02-25-2009, 11:40 PM
Physics is definetly harder... Currently taking a course right now and it's definetly harder then calculus I (not intro or pre)

Math is straight forward, physics is more concepts and applications.

LaLuzdeLucyfer
02-25-2009, 11:54 PM
Physics is definetly harder... Currently taking a course right now and it's definetly harder then calculus I (not intro or pre)

Math is straight forward, physics is more concepts and applications.

I don't know about you guys but Pre-Calc was much harder than AP Calc for me. Derivatives.. integrals.. related rates. optimization they all made sense.

Trig principles pissed me off back in pre=calc.

Difficulty

Advanced Physics > Calculus II > Pre-Calc > High School Physics > Calculus I > Multivariable Calculus (Relative to Age)

Hawker
02-25-2009, 11:56 PM
I don't know about you guys but Pre-Calc was much harder than AP Calc for me. Derivatives.. integrals.. related rates. optimization they all made sense.

Trig principles pissed me off back in pre=calc.

Difficulty

Advanced Physics > Calculus II > Pre-Calc > High School Physics > Calculus I > Multivariable Calculus (Relative to Age)

Phuck Multivariable Calc. That class made absolutely zero sense to me. The only thing I got out of that was how to do a triple integral. All the conversion from cylindrical to spherical to regular coordinates is so confusing.

Calc I & II in 3D basically.

RidonKs
02-26-2009, 12:01 AM
Thanks for the, uhh, help Glove. I do appreciate the effort, trust me, but you didn't really answer any of my questions. I'm just curious if I need to take a summer course of some sort before entering into another undergraduate program, or if I can start out cold.

And yeah, I'm already pretty set on physics right now, so it's not really a question between maths and sciences. I don't really feel like sharing my reasoning, but suffice to say they really have nothing to do with anything you mentioned. :)

Again though, appreciate the effort.


I was able to get Cs in my intro physics courses that were required for engineering and I only took a conceptual physics class in HS (regular, not pre ap or AP or IB or honors) where I learned nothing. I worked my ass off for those Cs too.
This is more along the lines of what I was looking for. This is still a little ways away, I'm going to finish up my undergrad in PoliSci first since I'm so far in already. We're talking 2 years from now - what I gather is that I'd probably be able to go in cold, but taking an introductory summer course might actually be in my best interest, just to establish a foundation. Thanks hawk.

Hawker
02-26-2009, 12:04 AM
Thanks for the, uhh, help Glove. I do appreciate the effort, trust me, but you didn't really answer any of my questions. I'm just curious if I need to take a summer course of some sort before entering into another undergraduate program, or if I can start out cold.

And yeah, I'm already pretty set on physics right now, so it's not really a question between maths and sciences. I don't really feel like sharing my reasoning, but suffice to say they really have nothing to do with anything you mentioned. :)

Again though, appreciate the effort.


This is more along the lines of what I was looking for. This is still a little ways away, I'm going to finish up my undergrad in PoliSci first since I'm so far in already. We're talking 2 years from now - what I gather is that I'd probably be able to go in cold, but taking an introductory summer course might actually be in my best interest, just to establish a foundation. Thanks hawk.

Oh for sure take an intro class to get you ready for physics and also solidify that you actually want to be a physics major.

rawimpact
02-26-2009, 12:04 AM
I don't know about you guys but Pre-Calc was much harder than AP Calc for me. Derivatives.. integrals.. related rates. optimization they all made sense.

Trig principles pissed me off back in pre=calc.

Difficulty

Advanced Physics > Calculus II > Pre-Calc > High School Physics > Calculus I > Multivariable Calculus (Relative to Age)

I agree with above, except my college does not offer precalc, it starts off at calculus teaching you everything (3 quarter or 2 semester class).

Upper div. physics is some of the hardest stuff college offers. Chem and some of bio get blown away...

rawimpact
02-26-2009, 12:07 AM
Oh for sure take an intro class to get you ready for physics and also solidify that you actually want to be a physics major.


Any intro class is going to be bull****, teaching you the very basics. If you want to get into a major, you have to do some research including a talk with the dean of each college.

When i took sociology, it was great... but later one (405 level) i gave up on it and took the minor.

This is a bit different for the sciences, you notice what you're getting yourself into maybe 2 classes into it. The first is generally GE bull****, you should definitely ask your counselor if you have to take the lowest (001 level or 100 level course, because sometimes there are tests that exempt you)

U got Served
02-26-2009, 12:20 AM
Obviously physics is harder than Pre-Calculus.
AP Calculus is harder than both of them.
Calculus II is even harder.

Glove_20
02-26-2009, 01:21 AM
Thanks for the, uhh, help Glove. I do appreciate the effort, trust me, but you didn't really answer any of my questions. I'm just curious if I need to take a summer course of some sort before entering into another undergraduate program, or if I can start out cold.

And yeah, I'm already pretty set on physics right now, so it's not really a question between maths and sciences. I don't really feel like sharing my reasoning, but suffice to say they really have nothing to do with anything you mentioned. :)


I answered things like how "hard" it will be for you, which you asked. I agree most of what I said was unrelated, but some parts were directly answering some of your questions.

You didn't answer why you had such a change of mindset? From dissing on engineers/sciences (kind of) to appreciating it. I thought it was purely because of the intellectual quality.

Parade
02-26-2009, 01:44 AM
If you think pre-calc is easier than physics then that's a good indication your physics classes were a joke. Same for calc vs pre-calc. It's not even close.


I might actually ask this here -

Say I were debating majoring in Physics for an undergrad. I've never taken a course in HS, and have no more than elementary knowledge of the subject matter. I took Pre-Cal first year and got a B- while putting in virtually no work (that won't happen again obviously if I decide to major in a science/math - I have a newfound respect for those subject). Do you guys think I would need to take a HS equivalency course before I enter the introductory classes in first year, or would I be able to get by with hard work but no foundation? Forget requirements, I'm just curious about difficulty at this point.
HS equivalency course in what subject, physics or math?

Obviously, if you haven't taken any math beyond pre-calc, then you won't be able to take physics. At the minimum you need to have completed calc 1 before you take your first physics class. Some schools might allow concurrent enrollment, but I would advise against that.

Any school you go to should have the necessary math and physics courses you need so a HS equivalency test, class, or whatever isn't necessary. Just start taking math classes at your current level and work your way up. You don't need any foundation, besides math, to start taking physics, they assume you have no prior knowledge and start off with the basics.

You seem to me like a smart fellow, I wouldn't doubt for a second you could do it.

Positive
02-26-2009, 02:17 AM
Applenader, have you taken thermodynamics?

I'm in chem e thermodynamics now and it flat out sucks. It's probably the hardest of my classes this semester.

To the OP, I'd definitely say basic physics is easier than pre calc but neither are too demanding so I really wouldn't sweat it. If it were college physics then, it's a whole different story. I really struggled with college physics, but I personally thought the department here sucks with teaching it because I've been fine in all my other chem/math and any other classes.

Hawker
02-26-2009, 02:19 AM
I'm in chem e thermodynamics now and it flat out sucks. It's probably the hardest of my classes this semester.

To the OP, I'd definitely say basic physics is easier than pre calc but neither are too demanding so I really wouldn't sweat it. If it were college physics then, it's a whole different story. I really struggled with college physics, but I personally thought the department here sucks with teaching it because I've been fine in all my other chem/math and any other classes.
lol...im taking thermo right now. Took my first test in it last thursday and it will only get harder. It's quite interesting though.

Glove_20
02-26-2009, 03:29 AM
Glove_20 put up or shut up. You always run your mouth and repeat the same shyt in thread like this. I mean everything was so easy that you didnt have to do this, that and the third (lame ass bragging/boasting towards others who put in time, didnt get the grade u got and/or found it difficult). Yet its not easy to back up the shyt you talk here.

You are a f*cking mensa member who passed up a Rhodes Scholarship because to you? Well you didnt have to prove to those losers you were smarter than them. Nothing was being taught you didnt know ahead of time. Investment banker who could have been a Bio Chemical Engineer but that was for suckers who couldnt hack it as an Investment Banker.

You never lose when gambling. You are ALWAYS up. And if you go 0-10? Well that doesnt matter because you won your *locks* which are 2, 3 times the amount you bet on regular games. Yanno those 10 losses? That "loss" in $$$$ was negated from the *locks* you made. So you made out. I mean you ALWAYS do. I've never met a person who gambled on sports regulary not lose. Never a down week. A down month. A down year. It doesnt exist.

Everything in life is easy to Glove_20 yet he never proves a thing. You just yap yap yap or in other words type type type. Show us visual proof of the things you do. You can EASILY (your favorite word no?) do it but always have an excuse. Much like when your teams come up short after your bogus gurantees go flop (the sound of a turd hitting the water).

Same clown who says you never met no one your size stronger than you. I've never heard that. Who says crap like that?

Enough of you typing. Start uploading and proving the things you post here. I mean afterall all those things were EASY to do. Why shouldnt this be the same?


And dont mistake this post for me saying everything you type is a lie. Its moreso to say you have done enough shyt talking here. Now its time to back it up. Put up or shut the f*ck up.

Amen

RidonKs
02-26-2009, 10:11 AM
HS equivalency course in what subject, physics or math?

Obviously, if you haven't taken any math beyond pre-calc, then you won't be able to take physics. At the minimum you need to have completed calc 1 before you take your first physics class. Some schools might allow concurrent enrollment, but I would advise against that.

Any school you go to should have the necessary math and physics courses you need so a HS equivalency test, class, or whatever isn't necessary. Just start taking math classes at your current level and work your way up. You don't need any foundation, besides math, to start taking physics, they assume you have no prior knowledge and start off with the basics.

You seem to me like a smart fellow, I wouldn't doubt for a second you could do it.
Damn, good stuff. Thanks dude. I was talking about physics equivalency - I had no idea it was so dependent on Calc. So are you saying if I were to major in physics, I wouldn't even take any intro physics courses before first completing a basic understanding of pre-calc/calc?

dnyk1337
02-26-2009, 10:21 AM
Well I've always been horrible in Physics... Barely passed Calc based Physics I with a D and I have to retake because I did so pisspoor in it. Don't know why, but this hate of Physics has gone on since my high school days. For example, I never got lower than an 88 in Calc II tests, but I never got higher than 70 in a Physics I test! I hate Physics with a passion.

Parade
02-26-2009, 10:26 AM
Damn, good stuff. Thanks dude. I was talking about physics equivalency - I had no idea it was so dependent on Calc. So are you saying if I were to major in physics, I wouldn't even take any intro physics courses before first completing a basic understanding of pre-calc/calc?
There are physics courses that don't require calc, but those are a waste of time if you plan to major in the subject.. Yeah, you need calc.

Physics is a LOT of math. You will probably need to continue learning math the entire duration of your undergrad, and even some more if you continue on as a grad student.

RidonKs
02-26-2009, 10:46 AM
There are physics courses that don't require calc, but those are a waste of time if you plan to major in the subject.. Yeah, you need calc.

Physics is a LOT of math. You will probably need to continue learning math the entire duration of your undergrad, and even some more if you continue on as a grad student.
Well graduate school would be the plan. Math was always my forte up until shortly after HS when I abandoned it and opted for a social science type instead. Methinks I'd like to revisit it though...

Again, thanks for the help.

Glove_20
02-26-2009, 01:00 PM
Well graduate school would be the plan. Math was always my forte up until shortly after HS when I abandoned it and opted for a social science type instead. Methinks I'd like to revisit it though...

Again, thanks for the help.

RiDonks, why the sudden change of heart from english/humanities/philosophy type subjects to science/math?

RidonKs
02-26-2009, 01:03 PM
RiDonks, why the sudden change of heart from english/humanities/philosophy type subjects to science/math?
Eh, I'd rather not go in depth about it. I still love philosophy, politics, and literature, probably more than I ever have. Incredibly fascinating stuff, all of it. I guess I just realized the importance of hard sciences, particularly those that describe the physical world (ie. physics), and want to pursue that knowledge.

Also, stop capitalizing my d.