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Cedar
03-03-2009, 11:02 PM
PRO BASKETBALL; As Fans Show No Love, Bryant Shows No Mercy
By CHRIS BROUSSARD

It was a terrific feel-good event, at first. Allen Iverson paid tribute to Julius Erving by proudly wearing Dr. J's No. 6. Michael Jordan laughed while attempting to show up the young stars who grew up revering him. And the great heavyweight champions Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier, adversaries in an ugly, deeply personal feud for the past 30 years, sat next to each other in the front row, locking arms as they stood for the pregame singing of ''America the Beautiful.''

But as the 51st N.B.A. All-Star Game wore on today, the fans at the First Union Center squashed the benevolent spirit by showing disdain for one of Philadelphia's homegrown stars, Kobe Bryant.

While Bryant, the Los Angeles Lakers guard, scored more than a point a minute en route to leading the Western Conference to a 135-120 victory over the Eastern Conference and earning the game's Most Valuable Player award, the crowd of 19,581 booed him with increasing intensity.

Bryant, who went to high school in nearby Lower Merion, Pa., was booed each time he scored, and he finished with 31 points in 30 minutes. When he accepted the M.V.P. award at halfcourt, more derision rained down. He followed the tradition of acknowledging the crowd by raising the trophy, but his forced smile could not hide his disappointment.

''I was pretty upset, pretty hurt,'' said Bryant, whose father, Joe, played for the Philadelphia 76ers in the 1970's. ''Coming into today's game, I was a little worried about it. I can't really describe the feelings I had when it happened. But I'm happy I played well and won the M.V.P. in Philadelphia. The boos were just hurtful, but it's not going to ruin this day for me.''

The most logical explanation for the cold reception was Bryant's role in helping the Lakers defeat the 76ers in last season's N.B.A. finals. Before the Lakers left Los Angeles for Philadelphia, where they won the series in five games, Bryant said, ''I'm going back to Philly to cut their hearts out.''

But even Iverson, the 76ers' superstar, thought the boos showed poor taste.

''I felt bad for him because at a happy time like that, you just want to enjoy it,'' said Iverson, who scored just 5 points on 2-for-9 shooting. ''Then by them booing him, it took a lot away from it because he is from here. I think if people took the time and thought, what if that was their kid up there, then it probably would not happen.''

It was not the first time fans in Philadelphia had treated Bryant rudely. When he announced that he would forgo college and turn pro out of Lower Merion High in 1996, some people perceived him as arrogant and turned against him. He was booed when he played his first game in Philadelphia as a rookie.

''That really, really hurt,'' Bryant, 23, said. ''Because it was like my homecoming, coming straight out of high school.''

After the game, the Dallas Mavericks' Don Nelson, who coached the West, told Bryant: ''Don't take it personal. They wish they had you. Forget about it. Who cares if they boo you.''

Bryant's intentions of winning the M.V.P. award were clear from the outset. He shot the ball often in going 12 for 25 and fell only two shots short of Rick Barry's All-Star Game record. With a fadeaway jumper and an all-out attack on the rim, Bryant scored 12 points in the first quarter to lead the West, which never trailed, to a 32-24 margin. He had 23 by halftime, and had scored all 31 of his points by the end of the third quarter. His point total was the highest in an All-Star Game since Jordan scored 40 in 1988.

The boos started softly and were initially heard only when Bryant scored a basket. But by the second half, the fans derided him whenever he touched the ball. He admitted that the boos decreased his exuberance, although a small number of fans began to cheer for him.

''The more people booed, some people started clapping and cheering even harder,'' Bryant said. ''That made me feel good.''

Although Bryant was the high scorer, several other players provided highlights, particularly Orlando's Tracy McGrady, who led the East with 24 points. In the most outstanding play of the game, McGrady dribbled upcourt against a full defense, tossed the ball off the backboard just as he reached the foul line, cut past Steve Nash, elevated, caught the ball off the glass and did a reverse dunk between Dirk Nowitzki and Peja Stojakovic.

Jordan, who scored 8 points and missed a breakaway dunk in the first quarter, missed seeing McGrady's play live because he was talking to the NBC broadcaster Jim Gray. But he caught it on the replay.

''Both of those guys are so exciting,'' Jordan said, referring to McGrady and Bryant, ''that you cannot lose focus of the game and you can't go get popcorn and you can't talk to the guy next to you or you just might miss something spectacular. That's the beauty of the game of basketball. That's the beauty of being creative.''

The clubs provided a highlight in the fourth quarter by combining for six straight 3-pointers en route to setting an All-Star Game record for 3-pointers with 22.

Still, the excitement of McGrady's slam and the 3-point shootout could not mask the rude treatment Bryant received.

''I'm the type of person where if something occurs in my life that's hurtful, I'm not going to let it hurt me but for so long,'' Bryant said. ''I'm going to turn it around and use it as some type of motivation.''
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D7103CF932A25751C0A9649C8B 63&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/I/Iverson,%20Allen
I came across this article and wondered if there has ever been a NBA player who got booed at an All star game? Philly must HATE Kobe to show so much anger towards him.

It can't just be because Kobe and the Lakers beat the Sixers in the finals the previous year. Why didn't they boo Shaq during the introduction if that was the case? is it because they feel he betrayed the city by going to LA and playing for the Lakers? whatever it was, it was shocking to say the least. Kobe looked shocked, the NBA players behind him looked shocked, Ahmad Rashad looked shocked. I found it funny :oldlol: did anyone here actually feel bad for that arrogant snob? He had it coming..

Kobe24
03-03-2009, 11:04 PM
Well, maybe because Kobe said L.A was his real home in 01. Maybe because they realized that they SHOULD have gotten Kobe instead of A.I. Philly has a lot of reasons to hate Kobe. None of them are legit though.

Jacks3
03-03-2009, 11:04 PM
He deserved it. After all he is the devil..:rolleyes:

imdaman99
03-03-2009, 11:11 PM
I came across this article and wondered if there has ever been a NBA player who got booed at an All star game? Philly must HATE Kobe to show so much anger towards him.

It can't just be because Kobe and the Lakers beat the Sixers in the finals the previous year. Why didn't they boo Shaq during the introduction if that was the case? is it because they feel he betrayed the city by going to LA and playing for the Lakers? whatever it was, it was shocking to say the least. Kobe looked shocked, the NBA players behind him looked shocked, Ahmad Rashad looked shocked. I found it funny :oldlol: did anyone here actually feel bad for that arrogant snob? He had it coming..
You're a joke. And I honestly thought you were making a serious thread where you gave a damn, but your last 2 lines showed your true colors. You only wanna see Kobe fail. Yet you fail at life.

iggy>
03-03-2009, 11:11 PM
philly doesnt hate kobe, philly just hates the lakers, and anyone associated with them.

Al Thornton
03-03-2009, 11:21 PM
that's ****ed up I bet Kobe cried after the game and then raped an ugly white girl to feel better about himself :roll:

Kobe24
03-03-2009, 11:31 PM
that's ****ed up I bet Kobe cried after the game and then raped an ugly white girl to feel better about himself :roll:

White girl as in the Clippers? Yes, I'm sure he has done that many times.

Posterize246
03-03-2009, 11:32 PM
lol at Kobe being from Philly

Diesel J
03-03-2009, 11:33 PM
KObe actually did cry/have tears in his eyes from what I remember that day. It was actually kinda sad what they did to him:ohwell:

Kobe24
03-03-2009, 11:33 PM
lol at Kobe being from Philly

Word. He has class. :rockon:

ScolaFan
03-03-2009, 11:35 PM
No he didn't. No one at the All Star Game/Weekend should be booed.

Posterize246
03-03-2009, 11:36 PM
Word. He has class. :rockon:
He proved it by saying he wanted to rip our hearts out right? Classy.

DuMa
03-03-2009, 11:37 PM
Kobe got booed regularly at every single road game since 2002. the guy everyone loves to hate.

imdaman99
03-03-2009, 11:39 PM
He proved it by saying he wanted to rip our hearts out right? Classy.
I don't think that has anything to do with class. Sounds like fire and desire to me.

No class is when your ace pitcher calls my Mets a bunch of chokers :(

Kobe24
03-03-2009, 11:40 PM
He proved it by saying he wanted to rip our hearts out right? Classy.

He's a professional ball player getting paid millions going against his hometown team in the Finals. Stop being so sensitive. Oh wait, you're from Philly...can't expect human like behavior from you savages.

Showtime
03-03-2009, 11:42 PM
Philly fans hate everybody. It's not a Kobe thing, it's a crappy fanbase thing.

B-Easy
03-03-2009, 11:42 PM
kobe shouldve gotten cheered..

Im from Miami, if a home town guy balls and represents my city well i cheer...maybe thats just me

Posterize246
03-03-2009, 11:45 PM
I don't think that has anything to do with class. Sounds like fire and desire to me.

No class is when your ace pitcher calls my Mets a bunch of chokers :(
your own team admitted to being chokers:oldlol:

Posterize246
03-03-2009, 11:46 PM
kobe shouldve gotten cheered..

Im from Miami, if a home town guy balls and represents my city well i cheer...maybe thats just me
Kobe is not a hometown guy

B-Easy
03-03-2009, 11:47 PM
Kobe is not a hometown guy

Italy? i dont know what his hometown is to be honets, i assumed Philly.

MTing
03-03-2009, 11:52 PM
Philly boos everything. Dont take it the wrong way Kobe.

Kensta
03-04-2009, 12:03 AM
Lol this guy is a joke. Always creates topics but never responds.

godofgods
03-04-2009, 12:10 AM
He truly deserved it and then some.
What happened in MSG this year was embarrasing. If you're chanting "MVP" for Kobe outside of Staples Center, you are supporting terrorism.

ronron15
03-04-2009, 12:19 AM
the guy just beat the sixers in the finals last year. the fans dont like him for it.
him and iverson were talking trash

bigkingsfan
03-04-2009, 12:20 AM
Kobe should never... ever be booed, he should be castrated instead.

godofgods
03-04-2009, 12:31 AM
Kobe should never... ever be booed, he should be castrated instead.

No. You're wrong. His dad should have in the past. Then we wouldn't have this crappy Kobe is GOAT thread cropping up every hour or two.

monkeypox
03-04-2009, 12:38 AM
They considered him a snob because he lived in philly but went to a nicer school outside of philly.

momo
03-04-2009, 12:40 AM
It is Philly! They boo Santa.

Posterize246
03-04-2009, 12:45 AM
It is Philly! They boo Santa.
Over 40 years ago.

JordanL
03-04-2009, 02:25 AM
Word. He has class. :rockon:

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gigantes
03-04-2009, 02:35 AM
Kobe getting booed at the 2002 ASG- did he deserve it?
totally.

dude is an arrogant prick skating on talent if there ever was one, but at least over the years he has taken his lumps and turned into a much more fundamentally sound player and maybe a little more decent human being.

i don't think philly fans would boo him these days.

raptorfan_dr07
03-04-2009, 04:15 AM
Oh wait, you're from Philly...can't expect human like behavior from you savages.

This coming from someone who's favorite team's fans rioted and overturned a police car when they won the championship, and last year tried to act tough by ganging up 20 on 2 against Celtic fans who were watching the live feed of Game 2 of the finals at Staples Center. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

andgar923
03-04-2009, 04:25 AM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Kobe at one point disown Philly and claim he was from Italy instead?

Didn't he try to play it both ways, at times saying he's from Philly and at times saying he's from Italy?

I think I remember an interview where he said he was from Italy because that's where he grew up, he didn't actually live in Philly but a burb outside of Philly and many Philadelphians considered him a preppy snob, because he tried to claim that he was from Philly.

Similar to somebody from Malibu, claiming they're from Compton.

crisoner
03-04-2009, 04:52 AM
When Kobe said he was an LA boy the year before when they beat the Sixers what you expect Philly fans to do???

Of course he deserved it.

RainierBeachPoet
03-04-2009, 06:28 AM
as it was alluded to by some, there was some incident before the game that kobe distanced himself from his philly roots-- but being an old man, i cannot remember the details

it is the only time i could remember that anyone was booed like that during an all star game

the game is of emotions, not logic. objectively, he ought to have been cheered, but philly fans felt disrespected and returned the gesture in kind

i am by no means a kobe fan, but i felt bad for him standing there everyone focused on him-- he really was holding in the tears

and to think this happened before the rape charge. it would have been all the worse if it were after all that drama

Hoopz2332
08-13-2014, 11:17 AM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Kobe at one point disown Philly and claim he was from Italy instead?

Didn't he try to play it both ways, at times saying he's from Philly and at times saying he's from Italy?

I think I remember an interview where he said he was from Italy because that's where he grew up, he didn't actually live in Philly but a burb outside of Philly and many Philadelphians considered him a preppy snob, because he tried to claim that he was from Philly.

Similar to somebody from Malibu, claiming they're from Compton.


:oldlol: :applause:

JohnFreeman
08-13-2014, 11:18 AM
that's ****ed up I bet Kobe cried after the game and then raped an ugly white girl to feel better about himself :roll:
:roll:

SpecialQue
08-13-2014, 12:27 PM
Doesn't he get MVP chants there now?

NBAplayoffs2001
08-13-2014, 12:31 PM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Kobe at one point disown Philly and claim he was from Italy instead?

Didn't he try to play it both ways, at times saying he's from Philly and at times saying he's from Italy?

I think I remember an interview where he said he was from Italy because that's where he grew up, he didn't actually live in Philly but a burb outside of Philly and many Philadelphians considered him a preppy snob, because he tried to claim that he was from Philly.

Similar to somebody from Malibu, claiming they're from Compton.

Yeah, I get you. I think thats how most Philadelphians saw him.

Shih508
08-13-2014, 03:44 PM
Kobe was stats padding when West already had very big lead to make sure he got the MVP. That's why he got boo'd. Plus, Philadelphia was AI's town back then and fans there all supported AI.

PHILA
08-13-2014, 03:50 PM
http://citypaper.net/articles/021402/sl.slant.shtml

Boo Woo?

February 14–21, 2002

Sitting at a friend’s house, drinking a beer and waiting for the NBA All-Star Game to begin, I uttered the following: "I hope A.I. wins the MVP again.

And I hope we boo the shit out of Kobe Bryant." And oh, did my wish come true.

I felt not the slightest twinge of guilt as the First Union Center catcalls rained down upon the Golden Child. I felt pride — real, honest-to-goodness civic pride.

That pride quickly turned to simmering rage as I watched our local broadcasters sanctimoniously clucking about how petty, clueless and ungrateful we were. I expect that from the national media, which, of course, dutifully trotted out its tired "these people booed Santa Claus" mantra.

But the local wags, they’re supposed to cater to us, not scold us. Do us a favor, Larry Mendte: Save your vitriol for someone who deserves it, like the owner of Fat Tuesday.

We were told that we booed Kobe because we are jealous of his success, that we hate him because he is a Los Angeles Laker, a member of the team that defeated our beloved Sixers for the title last summer. The media is incredulous that we would treat "one of our own" so shabbily.

Well, it’s time to set the record straight for the media and the country at large. They just don’t get the root of this thing. Kobe Bryant is not one of our own. Kobe Bryant is the epitome of what Philadelphia, not Philadelphians per se, but rather our celebrated collective consciousness, despises.

First of all, Kobe is not a "hometown guy." He’s a spoiled rich kid from the suburbs. He didn’t go to Bartram, or Roman, or even Northeast High. The guy went to Lower Merion High School, which, the last time I looked at a map, is not located in the City of Philadelphia, but rather the exclusive Main Line.

His skin color doesn’t matter; his name might as well be Winthrop Strawbridge the Third. And he comes off that way — polished, almost ruthlessly refined, betraying an air of snobbish, arrogant sophistication. This is not the kind of guy you’d want to bring with you to get a cheesesteak or some soul food. He’s that punk-ass rich kid that takes his dad’s Lexus to the King of Prussia mall, buys $200 sneakers at Foot Locker and then flies off to Aspen for the weekend. Philadelphia hates that kid.

Then there’s the fact that Kobe is totally Hollywood. The guy seems to have never met a camera he didn’t like, a product he didn’t want to endorse. And he seems to have spent his entire life preening in front of a mirror trying to become Michael Jordan, his facial expressions, gait and even his diction uncannily Jordanesque. So he’s an ingratiating whore, and he’s a poser. Two more strikes.

He spent most of the past two years whining about Shaquille O’Neal getting the ball too much at his expense, when the fact of the matter is that Shaq is unstoppable and is the reason that Bryant has two championship rings and counting. There are two more strikes against him: He’s a selfish, ball-hogging whiner, and he doesn’t respect his elders. Philly bristles yet again.

Let’s get one thing straight: No Philadelphian in his right mind will deny that Kobe is the best, most complete basketball player on the planet. He can literally do whatever he wants on the court, his talent so awesome that he approaches Jordan in his prime. But his personality, his attitude, his approach to sport reeks to us, and not in that good way, like when the sewers back up in South Philly during the summer.

The media’s, and the NBA’s, infatuation with Kobe Bryant as a personality once again proves how out of touch they are with the real world, not just that of sports fans, but everyday people in general. The ridiculous All-Star events throughout the week — the exclusive, star-studded parties that the local media salivated over as if they were of some great import to you, me and Keith from Fishtown; the fact that normal fans and even most Sixers season ticket holders could not get tickets to the game; the bloated pre-game musical garbage — all of it overshadowed the game itself to such a degree that it almost seemed an afterthought. I wondered why I was even watching, and I’ve been a big basketball fan since Dr. J took on Bill Walton in the finals.

Philadelphia made me proud because by booing Kobe, it symbolically and perhaps unwittingly reacted to all of this ugliness. Philly doesn’t always like what it is told to like. Booing seems to be the only workable form of mass rebellion left in our crumbling consumerist society. Or at least it was on Sunday.

Philly knows what’s real and what’s bullshit. Kobe is a great baller, but he’s not one of us, geographically or culturally. He’s not scrappy, or undersized, or an overachiever. He didn’t have to pull himself up by his bootstraps, live in poverty, or overcome adversity and tough times in life. He’s not Rocky, he’s not Concrete Charlie Bednarik, he’s not Pete Rose, he’s not Charles Barkley, he’s not Bobby Clarke, he’s not A.I.

We have no tolerance for wannabes. And that’s what Kobe is, and always will be: a wannabe Philadelphian. And that’s kind of sad for all involved.

kennethgriffin
08-13-2014, 04:22 PM
you guys are so young and stupid.

kobe and the lakers just beat philly in the finals the year before.

kobe said during the finals "we wanna cut their throats out. LA is my real home"

phillys new favorite player was iverson. a rival of kobes

and kobe was taking allot of shots. and they knew he was gunning for the award

and its philly. they boo'd santa for christ sake

all these factors plus the fact that kobe is already a love/hated individual are the reasoning behind it

NBAplayoffs2001
08-13-2014, 04:24 PM
you guys are so young and stupid.

kobe and the lakers just beat philly in the finals the year before.

kobe said during the finals "we wanna cut their throats out. LA is my real home"

phillys new favorite player was iverson. a rival of kobes

and kobe was taking allot of shots. and they knew he was gunning for the award

and its philly. they boo'd santa for christ sake

all these factors plus the fact that kobe is already a love/hated individual are the reasoning behind it

Also he grew up in a pretty wealthy neighborhood outside of Philly. I know some gorgeous rich girls who went to his high school so he wasn't what you really call inner city. :kobe: