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crounsa810
03-05-2009, 11:38 PM
This will be the official Watchmen thread, because I know a lot of people will be going to see it. Hell, I have 2 cancelled classes tomorrow b/c my professors are gonna go see it. So post your hopes, reactions, and/ or disappointments here.
I'm gonna go see it sometime this weekend. I would say no spoilers, but it's based on a graphic novel that if you're going to see the movie, you've probably read. So, enjoy
RidonKs
03-05-2009, 11:41 PM
I'm pumped. Hopefully going on Saturday.
I have mixed expectations though. I've seen a few reviews here and there, and some of them have been just glowing. On the other hand, I've watched a few clips from the movie that are all over the net, and it seems a bit... well, stale to be honest. I dunno, we'll have to see I guess. I'll reiterate that I'm really glad it's a longhaul movie. 2 hours 40 minutes, and the novel deserves every second.
The ending is supposed to be an abomination, so that should be interesting.
MarloStanfield
03-05-2009, 11:42 PM
Let me preface this by saying that I grew up a massive fan of the novel and was initially disgusted when I first learned they'd be making a film.
Saw it a couple days ago @ a pre screening. Very dope. Won't get into too much until some more of you see it.
G-train
03-05-2009, 11:42 PM
Seen it.
Weirdest music in a sex scene ever.
picc84
03-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Going to see it on saturday with a couple of my dudes. Two of us are comic fanatics and have read the graphic novel. The other isn't. Question. Will my boy who doesn't read comics enjoy the movie? I know its mad long.
MarloStanfield
03-05-2009, 11:46 PM
Going to see it on saturday with a couple of my dudes. Two of us are comic fanatics and have read the graphic novel. The other isn't. Question. Will my boy who doesn't read comics enjoy the movie? I know its mad long.
4 sho. at the very least it's visually stunning and a cool art piece.
DeuceWallaces
03-05-2009, 11:49 PM
Reviews are disappointing. Looks like they bit off more then they could chew for a single movie. I'll still probably see it.
crounsa810
03-05-2009, 11:50 PM
4 sho. at the very least it's visually stunning and a cool art piece.
This. I hadn't read the graphic novel until a few weeks ago, & I only did it b/c of the hype of the movie & the fact that so many people said it was good, & I have to read it for class soon, so I didn't want it to be work to read, I wanted it to be enjoyable. It was pretty damn good. Hope the movies good too.
crounsa810
03-06-2009, 12:22 AM
Anyone going to the midnight showing?
NoGunzJustSkillz
03-06-2009, 04:40 AM
been waiting for this movie since seeing the preview before iron man (i think). very disappointed. too tired to explain...out of 10 i give it a 6.
crisoner
03-06-2009, 04:48 AM
been waiting for this movie since seeing the preview before iron man (i think). very disappointed. too tired to explain...out of 10 i give it a 6.
Yay...Ill wait for the DVD.
I'm really just gunna wait for GI JOE and Star Trek
blasian
03-06-2009, 02:38 PM
Wish I wasn't in the UK right now. Doesn't premier here until June :banghead:
DoubleTech
03-06-2009, 02:50 PM
im going to watch it tonight at 9
i read the novel back in the fall so everything is still fresh in my mind...
SayTownRy
03-06-2009, 02:52 PM
hopefully i'll catch this this weekend.
i started reading the graphic novel last night and i'm loving it so far. 3 chapters in and i'm hooked. great story so far and i've heard the ending is the best part. will be interesting to see how they adapt it to the big screen as the novel seems to jump around a lot with all the background information.
it's also my first graphic novel and i must say it's been a great read. i was wondering though, is this really the pinnacle of the genre? i'm gonna check out a few more after i finish this one, but am i already reading the best of what's available?
v-unit
03-06-2009, 03:13 PM
Watching tonight, have no idea what it's about but everyone is talking about it like no tomorrow so it must be good.
Mathius
03-06-2009, 03:23 PM
There was an article on Yahoo front page that said the creator wasn't happy with the movie and critics are split on it. But the article appears to have been taken down or I just can't find it again. In any case it isn't on the front page.
Mathius
vapid
03-06-2009, 03:31 PM
I seriously doubt you could translate the whole experience of reading the watchmen onto 2 hours of screen time. So they might have just turned it into a standard comic book movie. I can see why Alan moore would be mad, apparenlty V for Vendetta wasn't true to his writing either.
MarloStanfield
03-06-2009, 03:34 PM
I seriously doubt you could translate the whole experience of reading the watchmen onto 2 hours of screen time. So they might have just turned it into a standard comic book movie. I can see why Alan moore would be mad, apparenlty V for Vendetta wasn't true to his writing either.
160 mins but point is valid nonetheless
blasian
03-06-2009, 03:37 PM
From what I've heard, the movie's faithfullness to the source material is its blessing and its curse. Fans of the graphic novel are happy but the casual audience is either confused or finds it boring. Basically, unlike most adaptations it caters mostly to the fanboys while leaving everyone else out in the cold. Its debateable whether or not that's a good or bad thing.
vapid
03-06-2009, 03:43 PM
From what I've heard, the movie's faithfullness to the source material is its blessing and its curse. Fans of the graphic novel are happy but the casual audience is either confused or finds it boring. Basically, unlike most adaptations it caters mostly to the fanboys while leaving everyone else out in the cold. Its debateable whether or not that's a good or bad thing.
If I was a producer I'd cater to the masses. You can't appease fanboys anyways, and # of masses># of fanboys. :lol
picc84
03-06-2009, 03:48 PM
If Alan Moore wasn't disgruntled and dissapointed he wouldn't be Alan Moore.
If Alan Moore wasn't disgruntled and dissapointed he wouldn't be Alan Moore.
Also he delivers great quotes: Alan Moore on 'Watchmen' movie:
'I will be spitting venom all over it'
:oldlol:
Alan Moore on 'Watchmen' movie: 'I will be spitting venom all over it'
12:48 PM PT, Sep 18 2008
For the record, Alan Moore has not softened his view on Hollywood nor its plan to bring his classic graphic novel "Watchmen" to the screen next March.
"I find film in its modern form to be quite bullying," Moore told me during an hour-long phone call from his home in England. "It spoon-feeds us, which has the effect of watering down our collective cultural imagination. It is as if we are freshly hatched birds looking up with our mouths open waiting for Hollywood to feed us more regurgitated worms. The 'Watchmen' film sounds like more regurgitated worms. I for one am sick of worms. Can't we get something else? Perhaps some takeout? Even Chinese worms would be a nice change."
Moore is often described as a recluse but, really, I think it's more precise to say he is simply too busy at his writing desk. "Yes, perhaps I should get out more," he said with a chuckle. In conversation, the 54-year-old iconoclast is everything his longtime readers would expect -- articulate, witty, obstinate and selectively enigmatic. Far from grouchy, he only gets an edge in his voice when he talks about the effect of Hollywood on the comics medium that he so memorably energized in the 1980s with "Saga of the Swamp Thing," "V for Vendetta," "Marvelman" and, of course, "Watchmen," his 1986 masterpiece. The Warner Bros. film version of "Watchmen" is due in theaters in March although the project has encountered some turbulence with a lawsuit filed by 20th Century Fox over who has the rights to the property. Moore has no intention of seeing the film and, in fact, he hints that he has put a magical curse
Moore said that with "Watchmen," he told the epic tale of a large number of characters over decades of history with "a range of techniques" that cannot be translated to the movie screen, among them the "book within a book" technique, which took readers through a second, interior story as well as documents and the writings of characters. He also said he was offended by the amount of money and resources that go into the Hollywood projects. "They take an idea, bowdlerize it, blow it up, make it infantile and spend $100 million to give people a brief escape from their boring and often demeaning lives at work. It's obscene and it's offensive. This is not the culture I signed up for. I'm sure I sound like Bobby Fischer talking about chess "
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/09/alan-moore-on-w.html
Mathius
03-06-2009, 04:38 PM
It's back/found/whatever:
Though critics and comic book fans agree that this film is an impressively faithful representation of the beloved graphic novel, they don't agree on the overall impact of the final product.
It's too simple to say this is a case of frenzied fans vs. condescending critics -- even Alan Moore, the novel's author, wants nothing to do with this production --
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/weekendroundup.html
Mathius
vapid
03-06-2009, 05:04 PM
It's back/found/whatever:
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/weekendroundup.html
Mathius
Yea someone beat you to it with a much better response.
Randy
03-06-2009, 07:46 PM
Three hour long snooze-fest.
But Randy, you never read the graphic novel so you don't get it!!1! First, it's called a comic book, ****-ass. And second, I'm not judging the movie based on a comic book, I'm judging it as a film because that's what I saw and it was terrible.
mmsupra
03-07-2009, 01:15 AM
Three hour long snooze-fest.
But Randy, you never read the graphic novel so you don't get it!!1! First, it's called a comic book, ****-ass. And second, I'm not judging the movie based on a comic book, I'm judging it as a film because that's what I saw and it was terrible.
Yea that movie sucked ..I'm sorry but maybe I just don't understand cause I did not read the comic book but damn that was wack juice.
Jordandunk23
03-07-2009, 01:41 AM
WATCHMEN is AWESOME... VERY GOOD MOVIE... the intellect behind it will really touch you if your into those type of movies...
i guess people were looking for action like dark night but this isn't like the typical super hero movie... if you could really understand what the movie was trying to portray for example about society among other things.. you would really appreciate the art...
v-unit
03-07-2009, 01:45 AM
I want to write an essay on it, seems like there are alot of symbols and themes that reappear through out the film.
Unfortunatly, it was retarded. WTF was up with that blue guy? He could just randomly get huge, teleport, deconstruct things and rebuild them, not to mention clone himself and read the past and future/other's minds. Its like superman, without a weakness besides he was a bitch emotionally.
And that orgasm he was giving the girl? With like 3 guys, all naked (blue guy is always naked) and his dick is just swinging through out filim (That sex scene had like 5 ***** swinging)
Brujesino
03-07-2009, 01:49 AM
And that orgasm he was giving the girl? With like 3 guys, all naked (blue guy is always naked) and his dick is just swinging through out filim (That sex scene had like 5 ***** swinging)
whoa i thought this was a super hero kind of movie not a porn
Vragrant
03-07-2009, 03:29 AM
Three hour long snooze-fest.
But Randy, you never read the graphic novel so you don't get it!!1! First, it's called a comic book, ****-ass. And second, I'm not judging the movie based on a comic book, I'm judging it as a film because that's what I saw and it was terrible.
Yeah I saw Watchmen tonight, and this movie is garbage. Total waste of money and time. I cant believe I bought into the hype. Overindulgent, cluttered, and unoriginal. Plus the ending was really anticlimatic. Plus the amount of times they showed that blue glowing d**k was annoying. I've never seen so much male nudity in a movie, that alone ruined the movie and when you add the other stuff on top of that makes it worse.
crounsa810
03-07-2009, 01:00 PM
So I take it that those of you who say it's stupid didn't read the novel? Because the novel pretty much tells you what its all about. I guess since I read the novel I'll be among those who understand it and like it.
Mathius
03-07-2009, 02:43 PM
So I take it that those of you who say it's stupid didn't read the novel? Because the novel pretty much tells you what its all about. I guess since I read the novel I'll be among those who understand it and like it.
I guess if you like a glowin blue d*ck. Had no idea about that little detail. Certainly deters me enough to wait until it comes out on HBO or something.
Mathius
Randy
03-07-2009, 03:02 PM
So I take it that those of you who say it's stupid didn't read the novel? Because the novel pretty much tells you what its all about. I guess since I read the novel I'll be among those who understand it and like it.
We're judging a film, not a comic book. The point of adaptations, like Watchmen is, is to tell the same story in a different form. If it fails to do so, as Watchmen did, than the film is a failure. How difficult is that to understand? As a film, it is scattered with choppy structure and pacing and a terrible climax/resolution.
Kebab Stall
03-07-2009, 03:07 PM
Wish I wasn't in the UK right now. Doesn't premier here until June :banghead:
What? It came out in the UK yesterday. A bunch of my friends went to see it, I didn't go because I had no money and after reading some of the comments in here, I'm glad I didn't go.
fiad06
03-07-2009, 03:11 PM
That movie sucked a ss.
blasian
03-07-2009, 03:20 PM
What? It came out in the UK yesterday. A bunch of my friends went to see it, I didn't go because I had no money and after reading some of the comments in here, I'm glad I didn't go.
Yeah, that's what I just found out. I probably saw an ad for it saying that it would come out 6/3/09 and then forgot that days were written before months here lol.
Still, judging by the mixed reaction I'm kind of hesitant to check this out. I've never read the Graphic Novel.
Kebab Stall
03-07-2009, 03:22 PM
Yeah, that's what I just found out. I probably saw an ad for it saying that it would come out 6/3/09 and then forgot that days were written before months here lol.
Still, judging by the mixed reaction I'm kind of hesitant to check this out. I've never read the Graphic Novel.
Yeah, it get's confusing for me when I read dates on American sites. Where they put the month first and the day second.
blasian
03-07-2009, 03:23 PM
Yeah, it get's confusing for me when I read dates on American sites. Where they put the month first and the day second.
The worst was when I had an overdue library book here because I got the return date mixed up lol
Mathius
03-07-2009, 03:25 PM
We're judging a film, not a comic book. The point of adaptations, like Watchmen is, is to tell the same story in a different form. If it fails to do so, as Watchmen did, than the film is a failure. How difficult is that to understand? As a film, it is scattered with choppy structure and pacing and a terrible climax/resolution.
Good post. I heard that the Davinci Code was unwatchable and parts didn't even make sense if you hadn't read the book.
Mathius
Jailblazers7
03-07-2009, 03:26 PM
After hearing reviews from friends I am more likely to simply read the graphic novel than see the movie.
mmsupra
03-07-2009, 03:38 PM
I guess if you like a glowin blue d*ck. Had no idea about that little detail. Certainly deters me enough to wait until it comes out on HBO or something.
Mathius
:oldlol:
crounsa810
03-07-2009, 09:02 PM
We're judging a film, not a comic book. The point of adaptations, like Watchmen is, is to tell the same story in a different form. If it fails to do so, as Watchmen did, than the film is a failure. How difficult is that to understand? As a film, it is scattered with choppy structure and pacing and a terrible climax/resolution.
Well technically we can be judging the book too. The thread was made to discuss Watchmen, whether it be the movie or the comic.
I still haven't seen it. Hopefully tomorrow. I'll admit, I was kinda bored reading the novel, but the damn thing just kept dragging me in for some reason. I agree though, the movie should set up enough to explain it to people who didn't read it, but if they were to do that it would make the movie well over 3 hours long. I think it was made more for the fanboys & people who read it just for the hell of it instead of the casual moviegoer.
Jordandunk23
03-07-2009, 09:18 PM
I dont know, me personally i never read the book.. to tell you the truth i never heard of it before... i know the casual movie goer just wants to be entertained so i definitely understand why so many people hated the movie... if you look deep into the intellect and message of it, its a pretty damn good movie imo...
embersyc
03-07-2009, 09:57 PM
You think with all those powers Dr. Manhattan has he could synthesize himself a pair of pants so we didn't have to look at his swinging blue c*ck for 3 hours, other than that it was decent movie, it had a lot of really good parts, but the resolution was wack.
crounsa810
03-07-2009, 10:20 PM
You think with all those powers Dr. Manhattan has he could synthesize himself a pair of pants so we didn't have to look at his swinging blue c*ck for 3 hours, other than that it was decent movie, it had a lot of really good parts, but the resolution was wack.
But why would he? I mean, he can blow you up in a fraction of a second. He's testing people to make fun of his dick so he can disintegrate them. IDK lol I know they explained it in the book why he wore no pants, but I forgot what the reason was.
v-unit
03-07-2009, 10:28 PM
Hahaha @ testing you.
"Does my hanging ***** anger you?"
"You're gay Dr. Manhatten"
*Enlarges ******
"How about now?"
embersyc
03-07-2009, 10:32 PM
I like how he tag teams the girl and gets his work done at the same time, thats multitasking, of course a woman is never satisfied.
RaininThrees
03-08-2009, 12:23 AM
I guess if you like a glowin blue d*ck. Had no idea about that little detail. Certainly deters me enough to wait until it comes out on HBO or something.
Mathius
Grow up.
211269
03-08-2009, 01:45 AM
People making a big deal over the dick shots are retarded. Its like 1 min total of a 167 minute movie :rolleyes: The movie itself is just fu**ing crazy. Everything from male genitalia and attempted rape to a f**k scene and a guy getting his head chopped up with a meat cleaver a few times and everything in between. Its a bit long, slow in parts and gets a bit preachy at times but overall I thought it was solid.
v-unit
03-08-2009, 02:11 AM
man did you all see taht big blue guy's *****? Gay ****
MarloStanfield
03-08-2009, 02:11 AM
man did you all see taht big blue guy's *****? Gay ****
i'd suck it
v-unit
03-08-2009, 02:18 AM
What was the deal with that guy with the raincoat/hat on all the time that didn't wan't his face revealed. He was the one that went to jail, etc, orange hair, his mask had like ink or something and it was always changing images. What was up with that?
MarloStanfield
03-08-2009, 02:20 AM
What was the deal with that guy with the raincoat/hat on all the time that didn't wan't his face revealed. He was the one that went to jail, etc, orange hair, his mask had like ink or something and it was always changing images. What was up with that?
Rorschach think ink blot test...
he's the best character in the novel.
v-unit
03-08-2009, 02:23 AM
He was leet. I liked Eddy too , though.
A.M.G.
03-08-2009, 02:25 AM
I'll admit, I thought the film makers would just give Dr. Manhattan pants throughout the film. I really don't see how that would have detracted from the movie.
Anyways, a lot was lost in translation from the book to the movie. There were a lot of problems with it. For one thing, I don't think the movie made any real attempt to convey the sorrow that the world felt about the "disaster", which is vital to the peace agreement making sense to an audience.
Also, for a movie with an obstensibly anti-war message, it sure did revel in violence... a lot. Like, I know the director did "Dawn of the Dead", but there were a few times when a bit of restraint and editing, not to mention focusing on the story instead of slow-motion and breaking bones, would have helped. And sweet jesus, never has a sex scene felt more awkward, drawn-out, or out of place as the one set to that wierd version of "Hallelujah". Lack of discretion on the part of the filmmakers again. Like you'd think the editers would have looked at that scene and been kind of like "This will make a lot of people uncomfortable, and it doesn't have to be this long. Let's trim it down. Also, that song is totally out of place." But no.
Overall it just felt disjointed, rushed, and hackneyed, like it was paying lip service to something the filmmakers didn't quite appreciate but knew was brilliant. There is just too much to this book to do justice to, and I only read it for the first time about a year ago. Zach Snyder seems to only be able to do re-makes and book-to-movie adaptations. Dude needs to make something up for himself.
Interminator
03-08-2009, 02:39 AM
Wathchmen is the worst movie of the decade.
Almost 3 hours worth of graphic scenes,unemotional/forced dialogue,and a blue man with a 4 inch *****.
The movie sold out and the theatre was so packed that there were people who actually had to sit on the steps or on the floor to watch the movie.
When it ended everyone booed and some whiny little ***** boy in the back row screamed "Its not that bad Its not that bad".
****ing Bull****.
MarloStanfield
03-08-2009, 02:44 AM
Wathchmen is the worst movie of the decade.
Almost 3 hours worth of graphic scenes,unemotional/forced dialogue,and a blue man with a 4 inch *****.
The movie sold out and the theatre was so packed that there were people who actually had to sit on the steps or on the floor to watch the movie.
When it ended everyone booed and some whiny little ***** boy in the back row screamed "Its not that bad Its not that bad".
****ing Bull****.
do you like hot dogs?
Interminator
03-08-2009, 03:02 AM
do you like hot dogs?
Only in the privacy of my condo without having elderly men take pictures of me eating them.
Do you like blumpkins?
MarloStanfield
03-08-2009, 03:12 AM
Only in the privacy of my condo without having elderly men take pictures of me eating them.
Do you like blumpkins?
only if they ate cheese first
Fatal9
03-08-2009, 03:26 AM
I haven't watched the movie yet but you have to love the intellectual snobbery by the fans of this comic book. At least read a real ****ing book before you get at people who watched the movie but didn't read the comic.
Quizno
03-08-2009, 03:39 AM
I haven't watched the movie yet but you have to love the intellectual snobbery by the fans of this comic book. At least read a real ****ing book before you get at people who watched the movie but didn't read the comic.
yeah seriously, i was thinking about the elitist attitudes that the almighty comic book readers seem to have lol. because they read a comic book they are magically superior to others and can comprehend what the inferior non-comic-book readers cannot
Chamberlain
03-08-2009, 03:56 AM
I saw it the night before it came out at a Midnight showing.
I was familiar with the comics but not that into them.. but I still think the movie was great. Not the best movie I've seen, but it met my expectations.
I solid 8.5 out of 10.
Randy
03-08-2009, 04:01 AM
I forgot to mention this earlier but the references to 300 were absurdly blatant. The number on the door and the briefcase are at least two I can think of. Ok, Mr. Snyder, we get it, you directed 300. Dawn of the Dead is still the best thing you've done BY FAR.
Mamba
03-08-2009, 07:56 AM
lmao at the comments
alot of you seem homophobic, its a guy walking around naked big whoop, u've never showered after a basketball game?
good story line
dragged on at parts
the ending was good
rawshack, was an absolute beast in that movie and is the greatest character ever made in any movie
the owl's a *****, and the comedian made me LOL heaps
plus dr manhattan really displayed whats wrong with people these days
top movie
9/10
anyone that hasn't seen it go see it, don't be a non-conformist conformist like the jerks in this thread, it has everything a guy should like in a movie.
> one beasty guy that kills everything/anything
> sex, all guys like watching sex and are always imagining what the female actress would look like undressed
> blood and action, great fight scenes.
chains5000
03-08-2009, 09:50 AM
Ok, so you got a great comic book with great characters and plot and then you let the 300 guy direct it.
What do you get? A really bad film. To me it was like they put MTV on for a couple hours. You had a scene with a known song, then a slow scene, then another song scene, then another slow one... and so on.
Nice way of destroying an icon.
chains5000
03-08-2009, 09:51 AM
it has everything a guy should like in a movie.
> one beasty guy that kills everything/anything
> sex, all guys like watching sex and are always imagining what the female actress would look like undressed
> blood and action, great fight scenes.
:rolleyes:
Mathius
03-08-2009, 09:59 AM
lmao at the comments
alot of you seem homophobic, its a guy walking around naked big whoop, u've never showered after a basketball game?
If you actually enjoyed that, you're a f*cking homo. If you do a poll about things men hate in private gyms I guarantee you a lot of them will mention something about men who hang out in the locker room with their sh*t hanging out.
anyone that hasn't seen it go see it, don't be a non-conformist conformist like the jerks in this thread, it has everything a guy should like in a movie.
> one beasty guy that kills everything/anything
> sex, all guys like watching sex and are always imagining what the female actress would look like undressed
> blood and action, great fight scenes.
Apparently all guys like dumb action flicks with little to no depth and gratuitous nudity?
Let me let you in on a little secret. Sex scenes in movies are OVERRATED. If I want to watch a sex scene I'll get a damn porno.
Mathius
Interminator
03-08-2009, 10:11 AM
If you actually enjoyed that, you're a f*cking homo. If you do a poll about things men hate in private gyms I guarantee you a lot of them will mention something about men who hang out in the locker room with their sh*t hanging out.
Apparently all guys like dumb action flicks with little to no depth and gratuitous nudity?
Let me let you in on a little secret. Sex scenes in movies are OVERRATED. If I want to watch a sex scene I'll get a damn porno.
Mathius
+1.
blasian
03-08-2009, 11:31 AM
I just saw it. Keep in mind I've never read the comic book.
I thought it was good. I found the story intriguing enough and the visuals were compelling. I also felt like the movie raised a lot of interesting questions and touched on many different themes. My problem was that the themes were merely brought up, but not fully explored. It all felt a little bit half-assed.
If anything though, the movie at least inspired me to read the comic, because I feel like the ideas the movie brought up would be explored in fuller detail.
Basically, this movie felt like a cliff notes version. Everything seemed to be skimmed through.
Spoiler
I also felt like the ending should've been way more dramatic than it actually was. That whole idea of saving humanity by uniting it against a common enemy is really interesting. But again, its like the movie merely touched on it and didn't go into full detail.
macmac
03-08-2009, 04:10 PM
That movie was hot garbage and I was looking forward to it for the past six months and really wanted to like it....
The beginning seemed promising but things started to go wrong somewhere around the time 99 red balloons kicked in...by the time two corny costumed b rated actors were fornicating to the tune of Leonard Cohen's hallelujah, I knew the hole was too deep to climb out from.
the movie took about two hours to give flashback background stories for each character and then it decides it needs a story and tries to loosely tie it all up in the last 40mins or so....that ********* Adrian retells all the events in quick flashback transitions as if there was any intrigue and suspense to the story. This isnt the usual suspects, its a shallow comic book imitation that places way too much emphasis on moving art scenes instead of solid storytelling.
The movie sucked huge balls, but I still intend on checking out the comics because alot of the concepts and social critiques were actually interesting and im sure would be better handled in a slower paced format.
pete's montreux
03-08-2009, 04:12 PM
If you don't like comics, then chances are you're not going to like the movie.
picc84
03-08-2009, 05:47 PM
Movie was awesome. Long but I could have gone longer. Watchmen >>>>> dark knight
embersyc
03-08-2009, 05:55 PM
and the comedian made me LOL heaps
Was it funnier when he beat the **** out of the girl and tried to rape her, or when he shot the pregnant girl in the face?
sommervilleCdn
03-08-2009, 06:06 PM
Let's brood on this for a second...If you put aside the blue "ballz" complaint for a minute, of Mr. Manhattan. And try to empathize emotionaly, why he feels the way he does (apathy in the later parts) ; him having " no stake " any longer with the human populace...this after his exiled. You start question mans wicked against man. There is a big picture here..that the director is trying to convey.
Or i'm reading to much into it.
/just my take
//movie has alot of layers
///i love slashies. \\\\\\\\\\
Jordandunk23
03-08-2009, 06:29 PM
Let's brood on this for a second...If you put aside the blue "ballz" complaint for a minute, of Mr. Manhattan. And try to empathize emotionaly, why he feels the way he does (apathy in the later parts) ; him having " no stake " any longer with the human populace...this after his exiled. You start question mans wicked against man. There is a big picture here..that the director is trying to convey.
Or i'm reading to much into it.
/just my take
//movie has alot of layers
///i love slashies. \\\\\\\\\\
no you are not reading into it too much... thats exactly where the watchers thought process should be while watching the movie...
and people have mentioned how they did not like the ending... it was a great ending.. life is not a story of disney happy endings... think along the lines of "false peace" or something like that... the negative action caused peace and Dr Manhattan sacrificed the truth because the lie caused peace... it makes you think what has gone behind closed doors in politics... intellectually this movie made you think so much between symbolism, theme, the characters, human nature/ behavior... etc...
NoGunzJustSkillz
03-08-2009, 06:30 PM
Was it funnier when he beat the **** out of the girl and tried to rape her, or when he shot the pregnant girl in the face?
:oldlol:
macmac
03-08-2009, 07:03 PM
no you are not reading into it too much... thats exactly where the watchers thought process should be while watching the movie...
and people have mentioned how they did not like the ending... it was a great ending.. life is not a story of disney happy endings... think along the lines of "false peace" or something like that... the negative action caused peace and Dr Manhattan sacrificed the truth because the lie caused peace... it makes you think what has gone behind closed doors in politics... intellectually this movie made you think so much between symbolism, theme, the characters, human nature/ behavior... etc...
Do you actually believe it was a great ending? "life is not a story of disney happy endings" Do you know how stupid that sentence makes you sound?
Stop trying to explain the ending's true meaning like you just rediscovered the wheel...a) its not that deep....and b) the message it conveys has everything to do with the comic, not the movie...the way it was delivered, which was done atrociously, is what the movie is accountable for.
Have you ever heard of a climax? plot spacing? Even the comic book fanboys who want to love this movie admit that the end was done poorly because it didn't convey the grief humanity felt towards the atrocities.
v-unit
03-08-2009, 07:08 PM
Someone remind me what the ending was? Movie was so on and off for me.
Randy
03-08-2009, 07:34 PM
Someone remind me what the ending was? Movie was so on and off for me.
Blue Guy is dies along blue tiger/unicorn and Gay Blonde Gay blows up world. Oh wait, Blue Guy is alive and 80 feet tall now but shrinks to normal size, realizes that Gay Blonde Guy has a valid point and proceeds to blow up Ink Face Guy, the only cool character in the entire movie. Blue Guy leaves the galaxy and Four-Eyes and Slut leave back to NYC where they get drunk with Slut's mom, Old Slut.
The end.
If you actually enjoyed that, you're a f*cking homo. If you do a poll about things men hate in private gyms I guarantee you a lot of them will mention something about men who hang out in the locker room with their sh*t hanging out.
hahahaaaa
I remember me and my friend at Bally's. His first time there we went into the lockeroom/shower/restroom. Some old guy walkin around butt naked and my friend started laughing like dude come on! So as we washed our hands he said which way do we exit and i pointed him in the direction of the shower. Stood back and watched his reaction as he entered. Priceless was an understatement.
Blue Guy is dies along blue tiger/unicorn and Gay Blonde Gay blows up world. Oh wait, Blue Guy is alive and 80 feet tall now but shrinks to normal size, realizes that Gay Blonde Guy has a valid point and proceeds to blow up Ink Face Guy, the only cool character in the entire movie. Blue Guy leaves the galaxy and Four-Eyes and Slut leave back to NYC where they get drunk with Slut's mom, Old Slut.
The end.
:roll: In other words dont waste my money on this? THANKS!
v-unit
03-08-2009, 07:43 PM
Blue Guy is dies along blue tiger/unicorn and Gay Blonde Gay blows up world. Oh wait, Blue Guy is alive and 80 feet tall now but shrinks to normal size, realizes that Gay Blonde Guy has a valid point and proceeds to blow up Ink Face Guy, the only cool character in the entire movie. Blue Guy leaves the galaxy and Four-Eyes and Slut leave back to NYC where they get drunk with Slut's mom, Old Slut.
The end.
Grimey. I remember that now, no wonder I forgot, I was trying to think back to something meaningful.
Anyways, what was the deal with the cancer? The blonde gay guy was giving it to everyone to frame the big blue guy? Or did he actually cause Cancer as if it were an STD?
crounsa810
03-08-2009, 07:44 PM
Just got back from seeing it. It was great. I thought they did a great job. You have to understand, the novel is something that was NOT meant to be filmed. However, this movie came damn close to capturing the comic. Yes, it's long. Yes, the sex scene was a little awkward. Yes, the dick hanging out was annoying. Still, the message is still there.
The fact that a lot of people think it's stupid and boring means that they did their job right. They didn't cater to the general public. They made a movie for the fans of the comic. That's what makes good movies. Movies that are made specific for a specific group of people. Why do most movies suck? They try to please everyone. This movie didn't try to do that. This movie said "Hey, if your one of those who liked the comic, here's something to add to the fun. If you're one of those people who just goes to see a movie without knowing anything about it, **** you."
crounsa810
03-08-2009, 07:46 PM
Grimey. I remember that now, no wonder I forgot, I was trying to think back to something meaningful.
Anyways, what was the deal with the cancer? The blonde gay guy was giving it to everyone to frame the big blue guy? Or did he actually cause Cancer as if it were an STD?
He tried to frame him. He needed Dr. Manhattan to be gone so he could accomplish what he wanted without him getting in the way and stopping him.
crounsa810
03-08-2009, 08:07 PM
Funniest part of the night: Woman at ticket booth with her 7-9 year old kids, "Now do I have to actually go into the movie with them?"
They shouldn't be there in the first place you dumbass
Also, the amount of people who laughed during the rape scene really disturbs me. What is wrong with people these days?
Mamba
03-08-2009, 08:33 PM
If you actually enjoyed that, you're a f*cking homo. If you do a poll about things men hate in private gyms I guarantee you a lot of them will mention something about men who hang out in the locker room with their sh*t hanging out.
i never said i enjoyed it i just said its not such a big whoop seeing a guy with his junk hanging out.
Apparently all guys like dumb action flicks with little to no depth and gratuitous nudity?
Let me let you in on a little secret. Sex scenes in movies are OVERRATED. If I want to watch a sex scene I'll get a damn porno.
Mathius
ye but it still makes u wonder what that particular actress would look like naked.
Was it funnier when he beat the **** out of the girl and tried to rape her, or when he shot the pregnant girl in the face?
well i laughed when he shot the pregnant chick in the face, the rape scene was a little graphic, but when he shot the pregnant girl i did laugh. that and when he beat the **** out of the vietcong. oh and also when he said america won the war. ye sure they did:ohwell:
Jordandunk23
03-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Do you actually believe it was a great ending? "life is not a story of disney happy endings" Do you know how stupid that sentence makes you sound?
Stop trying to explain the ending's true meaning like you just rediscovered the wheel...a) its not that deep....and b) the message it conveys has everything to do with the comic, not the movie...the way it was delivered, which was done atrociously, is what the movie is accountable for.
Have you ever heard of a climax? plot spacing? Even the comic book fanboys who want to love this movie admit that the end was done poorly because it didn't convey the grief humanity felt towards the atrocities.
i never sh*tted people's opinion about the movie, i understand why people wouldn't like it.. i never read the book, i didn't know anything about it i never even heard of it before. i basically went to watch the movie not knowing what to expect...
look im not going to argue that the movie was perfect... the movie wasn't perfectly sequenced and if there was a message from the comic book that was not conveyed properly in the movie I WOULDN'T KNOW!!! again i never read it...
all i know is that i saw this thing for the first time and i understood the messages behind it, symbolism, etc... and i found the IDEA interesting... I WOULDNT KNOW WHAT WAS MISSSING FROM THE BOOK... strictly from what i saw, it entertained me as a view....
and me saying "disney ending", is basically me watering down my thoughts... i have learned to do that on ish because people don't get it and it seems like even my watered down thoughts of the ending left you puzzled... I wasn't trying to be deep so dont go there lol...
i never once disrespected those who thought the movie was sh*t ... i was simply trying to find out why and give my reason why it wasn't a bad movie (again keeping everything simple)... get it?
crounsa810
03-08-2009, 08:47 PM
when he said america won the war. ye sure they did:ohwell:
They did. At least in the alternate reality of Watchmen they did
picc84
03-08-2009, 09:04 PM
Was it funnier when he beat the **** out of the girl and tried to rape her, or when he shot the pregnant girl in the face?
I vote when he leapt into the crowd and specifically went straight for the only chick there and punched her dead in the face. Lots of lulz. Comedian is hard on hoes.
RaininThrees
03-08-2009, 09:12 PM
i never said i enjoyed it i just said its not such a big whoop seeing a guy with his junk hanging out.
ye but it still makes u wonder what that particular actress would look like naked.
well i laughed when he shot the pregnant chick in the face, the rape scene was a little graphic, but when he shot the pregnant girl i did laugh. that and when he beat the **** out of the vietcong. oh and also when he said america won the war. ye sure they did:ohwell:
You did notice that Nixon was still president in a third term too, right? You know this is fiction, right?
macmac
03-08-2009, 09:25 PM
i never sh*tted people's opinion about the movie, i understand why people wouldn't like it.. i never read the book, i didn't know anything about it i never even heard of it before. i basically went to watch the movie not knowing what to expect...
look im not going to argue that the movie was perfect... the movie wasn't perfectly sequenced and if there was a message from the comic book that was not conveyed properly in the movie I WOULDN'T KNOW!!! again i never read it...
all i know is that i saw this thing for the first time and i understood the messages behind it, symbolism, etc... and i found the IDEA interesting... I WOULDNT KNOW WHAT WAS MISSSING FROM THE BOOK... strictly from what i saw, it entertained me as a view....
and me saying "disney ending", is basically me watering down my thoughts... i have learned to do that on ish because people don't get it and it seems like even my watered down thoughts of the ending left you puzzled... I wasn't trying to be deep so dont go there lol...
i never once disrespected those who thought the movie was sh*t ... i was simply trying to find out why and give my reason why it wasn't a bad movie (again keeping everything simple)... get it?
Fair enough
BFRESH44
03-08-2009, 09:31 PM
Movie was awesome. Long but I could have gone longer. Watchmen >>>>> dark knight
Stop it.
Younggrease
03-08-2009, 09:42 PM
That movie was hot garbage and I was looking forward to it for the past six months and really wanted to like it....
The beginning seemed promising but things started to go wrong somewhere around the time 99 red balloons kicked in...by the time two corny costumed b rated actors were fornicating to the tune of Leonard Cohen's hallelujah, I knew the hole was too deep to climb out from.
the movie took about two hours to give flashback background stories for each character and then it decides it needs a story and tries to loosely tie it all up in the last 40mins or so....that ********* Adrian retells all the events in quick flashback transitions as if there was any intrigue and suspense to the story. This isnt the usual suspects, its a shallow comic book imitation that places way too much emphasis on moving art scenes instead of solid storytelling.
The movie sucked huge balls, but I still intend on checking out the comics because alot of the concepts and social critiques were actually interesting and im sure would be better handled in a slower paced format.
I dont get how a lot of people call this shallow but act as if other movies had a lot of meaning. Im not a comic book guy or anything but there were a lot of themes that were put forward in this movie.
The movie isnt so much about the storyline with nuclear stuff. Its about who the characters are, what they represent, and when faced with adversity what choices do they and what do those choices mean in the greater scheme of things. Its a decent character study of men, religion and philosophy.
But hey keep on whining about someone's balls and a sex scene. Truth is it was a good movie, not great but good. It was held back by some poor acting choices but it was decent.
picc84
03-08-2009, 09:53 PM
Stop it.
:confusedshrug:
crounsa810
03-08-2009, 10:01 PM
:confusedshrug:
I would say Dark Knight is better than Watchmen, but they are very very close. Dark Knight is better by about a 5% margin
embersyc
03-08-2009, 10:14 PM
when he said america won the war. ye sure they did:ohwell:
You didn't watch the movie much did you? America did win the war in the movie Dr. Manhattan basically vaporized the vietcong. It was also 1985 and Nixon was still president.
Jailblazers7
03-08-2009, 10:25 PM
Even if you think the movie was bad it is exposing people to the graphic novel who wouldn't normally be interested. I plan on reading the graphic novel now and if this movie came out I probably would never have cared.
Vragrant
03-08-2009, 10:29 PM
Blue Guy is dies along blue tiger/unicorn and Gay Blonde Gay blows up world. Oh wait, Blue Guy is alive and 80 feet tall now but shrinks to normal size, realizes that Gay Blonde Guy has a valid point and proceeds to blow up Ink Face Guy, the only cool character in the entire movie. Blue Guy leaves the galaxy and Four-Eyes and Slut leave back to NYC where they get drunk with Slut's mom, Old Slut.
The end.
:oldlol: priceless
And where the hell did that tiger/unicorn hybrid come from? It just came out of nowhere.
Younggrease
03-08-2009, 10:39 PM
too bad he was never susposed to be a model for moral perfection. And too bad the affection that humans possibly had meant nothing to him. He was no longer thinking on the same plane as man. There emotions or way of life had no meaning to them. Dr. Mahatten in a way is a critique on religion and the way we view a god.
edit: post I responded to disappeared
embersyc
03-08-2009, 11:40 PM
:oldlol: priceless
And where the hell did that tiger/unicorn hybrid come from? It just came out of nowhere.
From what I've been able to determine in the GN, there is a subplot where he is running a genetic lab in Antarctica, and the graphic novel actually finishes with him teleporting one of his creations to NYC and not framing the event on Dr. Manhattan.
Not sure why they changed the ending, other than a lack of time to get into the genetic lab subplot.
crounsa810
03-08-2009, 11:48 PM
From what I've been able to determine in the GN, there is a subplot where he is running a genetic lab in Antarctica, and the graphic novel actually finishes with him teleporting one of his creations to NYC and not framing the event on Dr. Manhattan.
Not sure why they changed the ending, other than a lack of time to get into the genetic lab subplot.
This is true. I think they should've left that animal out though. I mean, if you're not going to use the subplot, don't throw the thing in there and confuse everyone.
I have a feeling they changed the ending because a giant squid thing kinda makes the movie a little, weird-er
Younggrease
03-09-2009, 12:19 AM
This is true. I think they should've left that animal out though. I mean, if you're not going to use the subplot, don't throw the thing in there and confuse everyone.
I have a feeling they changed the ending because a giant squid thing kinda makes the movie a little, weird-er
how would that confuse anyone...It had no bearing on the plot.
crounsa810
03-09-2009, 12:21 AM
how would that confuse anyone...It had no bearing on the plot.
Because some random creature shows up out of nowhere with no explanation as to why the hell it's there
v-unit
03-09-2009, 12:23 AM
I thought it was a Liger and that the director was paying homage to Napoleon Dynamite.
tr3bla
03-09-2009, 12:28 AM
I just watched it yesterday and I really enjoyed the whole atmosphere created from the lighting, music, and direction. I don't really understand all the themes, symbols from Watchmen, but I appreciate how different this movie was from any other movie I have seen before. My only complaint was how long it was but it may have been necessary to fit everything from the book (never read it).
8/10
Younggrease
03-09-2009, 12:30 AM
Because some random creature shows up out of nowhere with no explanation as to why the hell it's there
and.... It was nothing more then a pet that was put in to pay homage to people who read the book. I see no prob with that. If a pet that does nothing but follow someone around confuses you then thats a prob with you.
People seem to be nitpicking over the smallest details of the movie. What the did you expect?
v-unit
03-09-2009, 12:33 AM
Doesn't the Tigercorn fight them at one point?
Younggrease
03-09-2009, 12:35 AM
Doesn't the Tigercorn fight them at one point?
no...I think it was like two scenes...The toast and when the big fight happens.
crounsa810
03-09-2009, 12:36 AM
and.... It was nothing more then a pet that was put in to pay homage to people who read the book. I see no prob with that. If a pet that does nothing but follow someone around confuses you then thats a prob with you.
People seem to be nitpicking over the smallest details of the movie. What the did you expect?
I personally loved the thing. I thought it was cool to see it on the screen. I'm just saying the person I was with while seeing it kept asking me to death about "What is that? Why is it there? Wtf?"
Lebron23
03-09-2009, 02:47 AM
Watchmen Scores Biggest Opening Of 2009
8 March 2009 6:30 PM, PDT
[quote]Comic book movie adaptation Watchmen has scored the biggest opening of 2009 after taking in an estimated $55.7 million (
Mamba
03-09-2009, 09:01 AM
You didn't watch the movie much did you? America did win the war in the movie Dr. Manhattan basically vaporized the vietcong. It was also 1985 and Nixon was still president.
yeh that confused me a bit but I'm from Australia, not exactly familiar on the policies on the American presidency, i thought it came in after Nixon coz he was a **** president.
HisAirness
03-09-2009, 11:14 AM
I'm seeing this movie tonight and I'm going to flood the theatre.
Dasher
03-09-2009, 11:37 AM
I really enjoyed the film. The unicorn hybrid was explained by about 2 seconds of dialougem when they explained how Adrian made his fortune. One of the ways he made that guap was from genetic engineering.
Anyway The Comedian and Rorschach were great. I did not even notice the wang until the middle of the film, and it was not a big deal. The Lee Iacocca death scene elicited chuckles from only two people in the theater. Myself, and the guy behind me.
It is very long, but I recommend it to those with decent attention spans, and open minds.
NOHCP3
03-09-2009, 12:46 PM
Great movie. Saw it with my dad. Father son outing lol. Really liked the storyline(didnt read the comic book so didnt know it). Action scenes were kind of scarce but when they came they were great. It had drama, a little bit of comedy, sex, action, all rolled into one. I like the new breed of superhero movies that have done well in the box offices lately.You can relate to these characters much better then the Supermen of the past. Really long. But well worth it. Only cost me 4.50 :rockon:
sommervilleCdn
03-09-2009, 06:14 PM
They played a Jimi Hendrix tune near the end man.
I didn't grow up in the 50's and 60's..but I've always identify Jimi Hendrix(cause i happen to like some of his music), as being one of its icon of that time. So for the director to have included a good portion of that tune, near the finale... i thought was genious. If i wasn't absorbed in the whole "experience/atmosphere" of the movie already, that extra touch brought it all home for me.
Some of you might not be able to stand most or all of watchmen's long list of cast. But i definitely agree with others that said Rorschach (ink face) was probably the most fleshed out charcater in the movie. He was a tortured soul.
Rorschach = dexter, but with ninja leaping abilities.
embersyc
03-09-2009, 06:18 PM
Rorshach is probably one of the coolest movie characters in a while anyways, especially when he goes to prison, he is such a bad ass in jail. Much cooler than the Hancock prison scenes.
JustinJDW
03-09-2009, 06:35 PM
The movie was nice. I wished it had a bit more action, and at times it got confusing, but it was still cool. I did not read the book and have never even heard of Watchmen before this movie, so I probably understand only half of what other people do.
What really bugged be was that other than the Blue Guy, none of them had actual powers. Just guns and some fighting skills, and the resolution was kind of wack. Still though, it was nice to see that Super Girl nude a few times. She has an awesome body.
If only they did not have that blue **** swinging around for three hours. Seriously, it was either that or a man's bare ass on screen at least once every fifteen minutes. Put some damn pants on.
v-unit
03-09-2009, 08:34 PM
They played a Jimi Hendrix tune near the end man.
I didn't grow up in the 50's and 60's..but I've always identify Jimi Hendrix(cause i happen to like some of his music), as being one of its icon of that time. So for the director to have included a good portion of that tune, near the finale... i thought was genious. If i wasn't absorbed in the whole "experience/atmosphere" of the movie already, that extra touch brought it all home for me.
:roll:
That is NOT genious, it's just simply creating an atomosphere, probably the most basic thing in story telling-novels and films alike.
Anyways, like I said, it would be great to write a report on this film and study it, but I just felt that the themes were kind of FORCED onto us. I mean EVERYONE could tell that there were certain things being taught to us; I prefer when it's just clues and we have to GO and get the messages our selves.
Everyone could tell the messages that were being sent:
Who watches the super heroes if the super heros are always watching you? Who protects those that protect you?
How far do we, as people all over the world, go for peace? Do we sacrifice millions to save billions?
ETC, symbols like rain were just too obvious IMHO
v-unit
03-09-2009, 08:37 PM
With that being said: I don't fault you Zach Snyder; you're only human. But I don't look at you any higher after this movie (I hated 300 though, IMO this was much better).
Dark Knight blows this out of the water.
sommervilleCdn
03-09-2009, 08:44 PM
yeah but some people might not have got it. you see, IF u didn't know for a fact that hendrix had a tune out in the late 60's, how would it have been possible to tie the two things together. - I reason, that if u didn't have the foreknowledge... the hendrix score would of just served as a perfunctory , fleeting moment....
Hey, it's not all love, that i got for this film.. there was that fubar moment (somebody had already mentioned)..with the movie score. -When they chosed the song "halleujah", for during slut girl's and fore-eyes makeout session.
InspiredLebowski
03-09-2009, 08:54 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Chris Quinn should've played Rorshach?
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp93/thankyoudonnie/chrisquinn.jpg
RidonKs
03-09-2009, 09:00 PM
I still haven't seen the movie, but ever since the first time I saw his picture, I hated the casting choice for Ozymandias. The character is supposed to be the ultimate man, brilliant, handsome, strong, physically fit, and most importantly, genuine. The guy they chose looks more like a worm than anything.
http://mywales.unblog.fr/files/2009/02/ozymandias.jpg
He actually looks like he could be the bad guy. Ozzy isn't supposed to look like the bad guy.
crounsa810
03-09-2009, 09:03 PM
I still haven't seen the movie, but ever since the first time I saw his picture, I hated the casting choice for Ozymandias. The character is supposed to be the ultimate man, brilliant, handsome, strong, physically fit, and most importantly, genuine. The guy they chose looks more like a worm than anything.
http://mywales.unblog.fr/files/2009/02/ozymandias.jpg
He actually looks like he could be the bad guy. Ozzy isn't supposed to look like the bad guy.
When I saw that costume I had bad flashbacks to Batman & Robin.
If you don't like comics, then chances are you're not going to like the movie.
Thank you, I shall not watch this movie then..:cheers:
RidonKs
03-09-2009, 09:12 PM
When I saw that costume I had bad flashbacks to Batman & Robin.
I don't mind the costume. It's certainly better than an exact replica of the comic book costume would've been. It's his face. It's so... sniveling. Slimy. I know he's the "villain", but he's not supposed to look like the villain. He's supposed to be, bar none, the most upstanding citizen of the entire world. A self-made millionaire with more brains and brawn than the world combined (apart from Jon I guess). Eh, it just rubs me the wrong way, but I guess I'll see how he does in the actual movie.
sommervilleCdn
03-09-2009, 09:15 PM
imdb won't let me hot link..but here is another pic. of Oz before he "turns". http://www.imdb.com/media/rm249727744/nm0328828
/benevolent enough i think
v-unit
03-09-2009, 09:20 PM
imdb won't let me hot link..but here is another pic. of Oz before he "turns". http://www.imdb.com/media/rm249727744/nm0328828
/benevolent enough i think
Let me help you...
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm2/plexd11/shamwow-1.jpg
NoGunzJustSkillz
03-09-2009, 09:26 PM
fyi.......Rorshach was one of the kids in the original bad news bears.
RidonKs
03-09-2009, 09:28 PM
imdb won't let me hot link..but here is another pic. of Oz before he "turns". http://www.imdb.com/media/rm249727744/nm0328828
/benevolent enough i think
I've seen those pictures too. It's not his attire, it's his face. You're telling me you don't see a clear difference in the... sincerity or genuineness of Goode's face, in comparison to the comic? It bothers me a lot, Ozzy's probably my favourite character from the comic.
Younggrease
03-09-2009, 09:56 PM
:roll:
That is NOT genious, it's just simply creating an atomosphere, probably the most basic thing in story telling-novels and films alike.
Anyways, like I said, it would be great to write a report on this film and study it, but I just felt that the themes were kind of FORCED onto us. I mean EVERYONE could tell that there were certain things being taught to us; I prefer when it's just clues and we have to GO and get the messages our selves.
Everyone could tell the messages that were being sent:
Who watches the super heroes if the super heros are always watching you? Who protects those that protect you?
How far do we, as people all over the world, go for peace? Do we sacrifice millions to save billions?
ETC, symbols like rain were just too obvious IMHO
Thats one level of symbolism...there are more...each character represented a different take on life imo and their outcomes say something about life in general. Then you have the critique on god and religion and you have the philosohy of the comedian.
Mathius
03-09-2009, 10:15 PM
Thats one level of symbolism...there are more...each character represented a different take on life imo and their outcomes say something about life in general. Then you have the critique on god and religion and you have the philosohy of the comedian.
The fact that you guys have to break down this movie and explain it just re-enforces for me to not pay money to see it.
Mathius
sommervilleCdn
03-09-2009, 10:21 PM
:lol or we could of just said the movie was good. And not even bother to qualify the statement .. lol lol.
NoGunzJustSkillz
03-09-2009, 10:23 PM
The fact that you guys have to break down this movie and explain it just re-enforces for me to not pay money to see it.
Mathius
and?
Mathius
03-09-2009, 10:24 PM
:lol or we could of just said the movie was good. And not even bother to qualify the statement .. lol lol.
They're not qualifying the statement. 1/3 of the people in this thread said it was awful, 1/6 of them said it was awesome... another 1/6 said it was awesome but only if you read the comic, and then the last 1/3 haven't seen it.
Nobody explaining the movie is qualifying their comment, they're trying to explain it to people who saw it.
It's a f*cking movie. You shouldn't have to know the backstory to understand it.
Mathius
sommervilleCdn
03-09-2009, 10:27 PM
I think its fair to say than, that the movie is split down dividing lines...split 50/50. You either love it or hate it.
Either the setting: "time and place" works for you. Or u don't get it.
Younggrease
03-09-2009, 10:36 PM
The fact that you guys have to break down this movie and explain it just re-enforces for me to not pay money to see it.
Mathius
I dont know by "you guys", if you meant people that read the comic book? I never read the comic book or any comic book since I was like 8.
Mathius
03-09-2009, 11:01 PM
I dont know by "you guys", if you meant people that read the comic book? I never read the comic book or any comic book since I was like 8.
I thought it was obvious after my last post that "you guys" refers to those of you supporting the movie while clearly there's a whole other half of people who have seen the movie who said it sucked.
Mathius
ukplayer4
03-15-2009, 07:34 PM
i personally hate comic book films in general and i had never read any of this stuff before so i went in not knowing what to expect- all i new was that the trailer looked like utter ****. well this film is imo a masterpiece of the genre, flat out blew me away. it was so refreashing to see some originality in a superhero film, gritty and negative works soooo much better than glossy and toned down violence that we normally see in these kind of films. this should be the blue print for future comic book films it really was fantastic. the best comic book film ever made i feel(dark knight may be a better film overall but watchmen felt more original and i enjoyed it so much)
9/10(gets extra half point cause spectre kept her boots on during sex- that was ****ing hot right?)
embersyc
03-15-2009, 07:37 PM
9/10(gets extra half point cause spectre kept her boots on during sex- that was ****ing hot right?)
I don't know my eyes were glued to her ass the whole scene.
HisAirness
03-15-2009, 07:45 PM
I don't know my eyes were glued to her ass the whole scene.
Wasn't it amazing? You could yodel into that ass.
crounsa810
03-15-2009, 08:42 PM
You know how a lot of times you go to a movie and there's a hot actress in it? And all throughout the movie you sit there going, "Damn, I wonder how she would look naked?" Well that's what's awesome about this movie. You sit there going "I wonder how she would look nake.......NICE"
ekzistenz
03-16-2009, 12:12 AM
They played a Jimi Hendrix tune near the end man.
I didn't grow up in the 50's and 60's..but I've always identify Jimi Hendrix(cause i happen to like some of his music), as being one of its icon of that time. So for the director to have included a good portion of that tune, near the finale... i thought was genious.
Not really genius. If you've read the comics there's quotes at the end of each chapter which tie in to the story. For that chapter it was "Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl, two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl." Bob Dylan.
I thought overall the movie was pretty decent. Some of the song choices were a bit poor. Most the shooting of the movie was done really well. A few of the actors weren't the best. Although Rorschach and Jon were excellent. I too didn't really like Veidt as he did look like a villain. The change in the ending was handled well. Overall I'd give it 7/10. I enjoyed the comics more.
DeuceWallaces
03-16-2009, 12:49 AM
I love all the idiots complaining about the homo ****. It was hardly a large part of the movie. Movie was poorly done overall. Source material appeared to be quality, I've never read it, but they definitely botched the organization, pace, and editing of the movie.
crounsa810
03-17-2009, 01:44 PM
I have to say, this was my favorite scene in the whole movie. I thought it was done really well.
http://loyalkng.com/2009/03/09/opening-credits-watchmen-music-bob-dylan-scenes-online/
That song just fit perfectly with the images that were being shown. Best opening to a movie I've ever seen.
Dr. Manhattan
03-19-2009, 07:55 PM
You know, I never was a big fan of "Watchmen."
br3akdwon
03-25-2009, 11:44 AM
I liked the movie although I have never read the comic book. This movie really makes you think. I'm not American so I probably don't get all of the issues there but I understood some. Rorschack was great! I remember the quote saying "I'm not in here with you, you're in here with me." Manhattan was also cool, especially the thing he did with the tank. Spectre was hot. Ozymandias was also cool. The ending could have been better but who am I to complain? Overall though, Dark Knight is still the better movie but Watchmen is still a great movie.
v-unit
03-25-2009, 11:58 AM
I read a bit of the book, alot of **** I wish they put in the film (Going into detail about the psychiatrist, for one). Lots of little sub plots.
RidonKs
03-25-2009, 12:01 PM
I read a bit of the book, alot of **** I wish they put in the film (Going into detail about the psychiatrist, for one). Lots of little sub plots.
It was already two and a half hours in length, and bored a lot of people unfamiliar with the graphic novel. It's tough to choose which details to keep and which to leave out while adapting a novel, but I thought Snyder did an adequate job. And I maintain that his ending > Moore's.
v-unit
03-25-2009, 12:16 PM
It was already two and a half hours in length, and bored a lot of people unfamiliar with the graphic novel. It's tough to choose which details to keep and which to leave out while adapting a novel, but I thought Snyder did an adequate job. And I maintain that his ending > Moore's.
Yeah I couldn't imagine adding another part to it, but I just loved the Rorschach parts (It was related to him). Interestingly though, the biggest Watchmen fiend I know prefers the movie over the novel-It's usually the other way around.
Raj Da Dodge
06-06-2010, 11:48 PM
Here's my thing on this movie: I watched it the other day but I fell asleep 5 min into it, didn't understand it or anything, so less than halfway through, I turned it off. BUT! I plan on seeing it again since I see and hear that its an amazing movie, I'm thinking I should read the book first then watch it next time so I can understand it better, and yall know me, if normal people can't understand it and see whats goin on, NO WAY I'm gonna understand it. I mean I can watch it right now, cuz its in my car waiting to be returned to redbox, cuz i rented it like 2 days ago, so I could watch it tonight, but I choose not to.
-playmaker-
06-06-2010, 11:52 PM
very random bump but I though Watchmen was fantastic...I have seen in multiple times and that is very rare for me.
one the most unique super hero flicks ever made...it is greatness
I guess I need to read the novel now...
Jailblazers7
06-06-2010, 11:57 PM
very random bump but I though Watchmen was fantastic...I have seen in multiple times and that is very rare for me.
one the most unique super hero flicks ever made...it is greatness
I guess I need to read the novel now...
The graphic novel is even better. I only wish I would have read it before seeing the movie to get a better experience from the actual comic.
Raj Da Dodge
06-07-2010, 12:16 AM
very random bump but I though Watchmen was fantastic...I have seen in multiple times and that is very rare for me.
one the most unique super hero flicks ever made...it is greatness
I guess I need to read the novel now...
well I bumped it cuz I saw it the other day and I knew there HAD to be a thread about the movie, so I thought I'd just post on there and the rate last movie thread.
ukplayer4
06-07-2010, 11:09 AM
come on raj, your better than that.
one day vapid will watch watchmen, love it...and then i will have won.
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