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Tips4
03-23-2009, 03:11 PM
We all obviously know Blake Griffin is best player in this draft and he is a lock to go 1st overall, but who is the best player in this draft outside of Blake Griffin ? If you asked me this 2 weeks ago i wouldved said James Harden, but he seems to dissapoint everytime the pressure is on. Makes me think, can he handle the pressure of being a Top 3 pick or will he crack on the pressure. Lately i have been really impressed by Ricky Rubio, let me say the only time i saw him play was the Olympics and the countless of Youtube Vid's. I am really impressed by this kid and he is my pick as the best player in this draft(outside of Griffin).

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/ian_thomsen/03/05/europe/ricky-rubio.p1.jpg

wang4three
03-23-2009, 03:12 PM
http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Monroe.jpg

swyftdahoe
03-23-2009, 03:15 PM
I'm buying the Ricky Rubio hype.

As far as Greg Monroe and James Harden.. I think a lot of their success will depend on the style of the teams that they go to..

Kevin_Garnett_5
03-23-2009, 03:19 PM
http://www.hasheemthabeetonline.org/images/hasheem-thabeet-pictures%20(12).jpg

Maybe not the best but....

loot
03-23-2009, 03:33 PM
monroe, clark or harden

hill has an outside shot

wang4three
03-23-2009, 03:36 PM
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JJ81
03-23-2009, 03:42 PM
Ricard Rubio Vives!

Papaya Petee
03-23-2009, 04:43 PM
My boy Flynn isn't the best but he will be a beast some day. I love watching him play.

Da Ballahollic
03-23-2009, 04:47 PM
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Gerald Henderson..:oldlol:


I agree with Papaya Petee..I like Flynn

utahjazzrock
03-23-2009, 04:48 PM
Rubio could be another Baragnanni.
Overseas player. Seems amazing. Goes high in draft. Plays fairly well but not worth as high if a pick as we was taken.
Harden, I think Hasheem Thabeet will do well.
Tyler Hansbrough could be real good on the right team.

DuMa
03-23-2009, 04:48 PM
Flynn. i see a poor man's chris paul in him. excellent playmaking ability

TMAC-RAPTORS
03-23-2009, 04:48 PM
Curry > Rubio

You will all see!!!

Kebab Stall
03-23-2009, 05:17 PM
http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Monroe.jpg
This guy, to me, has more potential than Griffin. Griffin is definitly the better player right now, but give Monroe a couple more years and he'll be right up there.

I also like Earl Clark (one of my favourite players). He's a very versatile player and is incredibly talented. He can run the floor extremely well, he's agile, he's quick and he's as long as anyone. He's got great length. If he measures 6'9, I really wouldn't be surprised, the guy looks like a gangly mofo out there. If he could develop some high post moves (I feel playing in the high post suits his game more, than playing in the low post does), then he should be a fine NBA player.

I don't think he is quite a top 5 player yet, but who knows, with this draft class, he could go any where.

Tips4
03-23-2009, 05:57 PM
This guy, to me, has more potential than Griffin. Griffin is definitly the better player right now, but give Monroe a couple more years and he'll be right up there.

I also like Earl Clark (one of my favourite players). He's a very versatile player and is incredibly talented. He can run the floor extremely well, he's agile, he's quick and he's as long as anyone. He's got great length. If he measures 6'9, I really wouldn't be surprised, the guy looks like a gangly mofo out there. If he could develop some high post moves (I feel playing in the high post suits his game more, than playing in the low post does), then he should be a fine NBA player.

I don't think he is quite a top 5 player yet, but who knows, with this draft class, he could go any where.

To Earl Clark is the most overrated player in this draft, i think people are just overhyping him. He is a decent player but people make like he is going to something special in NBA just because he is 6-9 and can play SF. He is an avarage player who wont be anything special, i see a slightly poor man version of Thadeus Young or Marvin Williams.

noob cake
03-23-2009, 06:04 PM
Ricky is indeed the best player in the draft. His contract situation can be sticky. A good PG comes once in a while, but you can always find a competant SG or PF.

Godfather
03-23-2009, 06:07 PM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fZTh0leRn6jz/340x.jpg

:roll:

In all seriousness though I have never seen such a big gap from a first to second pick...

wang4three
03-23-2009, 06:07 PM
This guy, to me, has more potential than Griffin. Griffin is definitly the better player right now, but give Monroe a couple more years and he'll be right up there.

He's a fantastic player. I'll take him over Griffin. I want him to keep slipping till he falls into the Nets lap. A Lopez/Monroe frontline will be amazing.



I also like Earl Clark (one of my favourite players). He's a very versatile player and is incredibly talented. He can run the floor extremely well, he's agile, he's quick and he's as long as anyone. He's got great length. If he measures 6'9, I really wouldn't be surprised, the guy looks like a gangly mofo out there. If he could develop some high post moves (I feel playing in the high post suits his game more, than playing in the low post does), then he should be a fine NBA player.

I don't think he is quite a top 5 player yet, but who knows, with this draft class, he could go any where.

Tweener forward. He'll need a team that can do well with those. I look at the Knicks because they're doing a hell of a lot with David Lee. In a pick and roll situation, Earl can be a mini-Amare for D'Antoni.

wang4three
03-23-2009, 06:08 PM
:roll:

In all seriousness though I have never seen such a big gap from a first to second pick...

You will remember the name Gerald Henderson. His biggest problem right now is he's horrible at going left, but if he learns how to equalize it, he'll be the best swingman prospect of this draft.

Godfather
03-23-2009, 06:10 PM
He's a fantastic player. I'll take him over Griffin.



Tweener forward. He'll need a team that can do well with those. I look at the Knicks because they're doing a hell of a lot with David Lee. In a pick and roll situation, Earl can be a mini-Amare for D'Antoni.
Greg Monroe doesn't have the instinct, talent, or skill to ever be better than Blake Griffin. That much is obvious to me and a majority of teams...

^^^That's great, but being the best swingman prospect of this draft isn't saying much...

wang4three
03-23-2009, 06:16 PM
Greg Monroe doesn't have the instinct, talent, or skill to ever be better than Blake Griffin. That much is obvious to me and a majority of teams...

I've seen plenty of both players to suggest otherwise. I've talked to plenty whose opinion I respect to suggest otherwise, those in the business.


^^^That's great, but being the best swingman prospect of this draft isn't saying much...

This thread is obviously about the best players in the 2009 draft. So for this thread's topic, it is relevant.

Godfather
03-23-2009, 06:18 PM
I've seen plenty of both players to suggest otherwise. I've talked to plenty whose opinion I respect to suggest otherwise, those in the business.



This thread is obviously about the best players in the 2009 draft. So for this thread's topic, it is relevant.

Come on do you honestly think Gerald Henderson is a top 10 player from this draft?

Be honest...

WhySoInsecure?
03-23-2009, 06:23 PM
09 draft is shiet. As a matter of fact the only reason why i wanted the knicks to make the playoffs was to give their pick away to utah.

I like Blake but after him there's nothing more than role players.

Harden is looking more and more like another Cuttino Mobley.

I called Thabeet going 2nd when the season started and that's looking very likely but he'll be lucky to be a poor mans Mutombo (and i mean broke)

Jordan Hill has some potential but it would shock me if he ended up like Wilcox. If it all goes well we'll get Nene jr.

Jennings has been a joke is high school and he will be in the nba. He's skinny and quick but he's not much of a passer and a so so scorer. He'll just end up being someones problem. (minnesota?)

Monroe has his groupies on this board but right now he's too soft to play in this league. He's got the Channing Frye syndrome and should stick around for another year or 2 of college. Like a Blake Griffin he needs to get the experience of having the ball go through him and taking his team deep in the tournament.

The guys i like in this draft are: Griffin, Aminu, Warren, Henderson and Flynn.

wang4three
03-23-2009, 06:32 PM
Come on do you honestly think Gerald Henderson is a top 10 player from this draft?

Be honest...

Ofcourse I do. I've never seen Rubio or Jennings play so I won't comment on them. I watch a lot of college ball, anyone in the college forum can attest to that. My entire night is constructed around the Davidson-St. Mary's game and watching Patty Mills vs. Stephen Curry. But all of that is just irrelevant.

I made a mistake though. Harden will be the best swing from the draft, technically, though I just do not think Harden will spend any time at the small forward slot, at least not as much as Henderson will.

Godfather
03-23-2009, 06:33 PM
Ofcourse I do. I've never seen Rubio or Jennings play so I won't comment on them. I watch a lot of college ball, anyone in the college forum can attest to that. My entire night is constructed around the Davidson-St. Mary's game and watching Patty Mills vs. Stephen Curry. But all of that is just irrelevant.

I made a mistake though. Harden will be the best swing from the draft, technically, though I just do not think Harden will spend any time at the small forward slot, at least not as much as Henderson will.

Then you should know Evan Turner, though lacks in overall strength, posses far greater skill than Henderson...

Do you think he is a top 10 player too?

InspiredLebowski
03-23-2009, 06:46 PM
He's a fantastic player. I'll take him over Griffin. I want him to keep slipping till he falls into the Nets lap. A Lopez/Monroe frontline will be amazing.

No way he gets past Indy if he slips that fall, and I'd dance in the streets if it happened. And I'm a crap dancer. The kid CAN be amazing, but he's just lackadaisical at times. That was one of my knocks on Hibbert though and that hasn't been apparent at all here. That'd be a studly G-town frontcourt.

wang4three
03-23-2009, 07:03 PM
Then you should know Evan Turner, though lacks in overall strength, posses far greater skill than Henderson...

Do you think he is a top 10 player too?

I love Evan Turner and I love the Big 10, but no he does not possess far greater skill than Henderson. He's not shown me the ability that can shoot, dribble, or finish around the rim as well as Henderson. Evan's shown me he can take over games like Gerald, but not as consistently. He's a player though, another season and he can make him a serious player.

I mean, honestly, "far greater"? How can anyone use that superlative when comparing Henderson and Turner?

Godfather
03-23-2009, 07:09 PM
I love Evan Turner and I love the Big 10, but no he does not possess far greater skill than Henderson. He's not shown me the ability that can shoot, dribble, or finish around the rim as well as Henderson. Evan's shown me he can take over games like Gerald, but not as consistently. He's a player though, another season and he can make him a serious player.
He is as good of a shooter (long and midrange), just as good of a dribbler (uses both hands very well), and has little less to the rim ability (because of his strength), but his rebounding (big difference), passing, and overall leadership ability are all above Henderson.

If you are going to knock to Turner's consistency ask yourself this question...Where was Gerald Henderson the entire first half of the season?

wang4three
03-23-2009, 07:11 PM
No way he gets past Indy if he slips that fall, and I'd dance in the streets if it happened. And I'm a crap dancer. The kid CAN be amazing, but he's just lackadaisical at times. That was one of my knocks on Hibbert though and that hasn't been apparent at all here. That'd be a studly G-town frontcourt.

Only 1 win separates us and we're missing Devin. I'm also rooting that TJ Ford vs. Jarrett Jack to be serious so you guys take Stephen Curry or someone else.

danumber88
03-23-2009, 07:13 PM
Give me the Thabeet, I hate overhyped guys. Guys outside the #1 pick are always the better players nowadays. Primary example. Thabeet is a staple to a team who will provide good size and defense. offense is something easier to develop rather than defense.

Durant > Oden
Roy > bargnani
Rose/Mayo > Beasley

Godfather
03-23-2009, 07:15 PM
Give me the Thabeet, I hate overhyped guys. Guys outside the #1 pick are always the better players nowadays. Primary example. Thabeet is a staple to a team who will provide good size and defense. offense is something easier to develop rather than defense.

Durant > Oden
Roy > bargnani
Rose/Mayo > Beasley

Rose is a #1 pick...

Poor examples otherwise when comparing this draft though...

There is a clear difference between the first (Griffin) and secondary picks in Durant/Oden's draft there were many making cases both ways, while in 06 no one was the clear favorite.

InspiredLebowski
03-23-2009, 07:18 PM
Only 1 win separates us and we're missing Devin. I'm also rooting that TJ Ford vs. Jarrett Jack to be serious so you guys take Stephen Curry or someone else.

Wow, just 1? Hard to believe that's it. I was thinking Indy was pretty comfortably ahead of Jersey. That Ford v. Jack thing is already done with, at least sure as hell looks like it. Has to be pretty damn hard to stay upset with Jarret Jack, dude is a jokester to the utmost. Jack's a RFA though and we may not be able to afford to keep him, so if he leaves a guy like Curry could definitely be the pick. But if it's over Monroe then I'm sending some really nasty emails.

danumber88
03-23-2009, 07:19 PM
Rose is a #1 pick...

Poor examples otherwise when comparing this draft though...

There is a clear difference between the first (Griffin) and secondary picks in Durant/Oden's draft there were many making cases both ways, while in 06 no one was the clear favorite.

Griffin and Rubio could be comparable the their distance could be really close like Oden/Durant, Okafor/Howard, etc. This draft looks deep to me. There are guys like James Harden that could match up Griffin.

Godfather
03-23-2009, 07:21 PM
Griffin and Rubio could be comparable the their distance could be really close like Oden/Durant, Okafor/Howard, etc. This draft looks deep to me. There are guys like James Harden that could match up Griffin.

You obviously haven't been watching College Basketball recently...

And what is up with Raptor fans getting excited about over hyped European prospects...

Rubio is no where near the sure thing Griffin is.

danumber88
03-23-2009, 07:23 PM
You obviously haven't been watching College Basketball recently...

And what is up with Raptor fans getting excited about over hyped European prospects...

Rubio is no where near the sure thing Griffin is.

Stats aren't everything, sure I watch Griffin he is you traditional big men but what I'm trying to say is that there is no huge distance to guys like Rubio and Harden who could potentially be 1 also. i'll simply say he is not the "clear" 1 pick

Godfather
03-23-2009, 07:26 PM
Stats aren't everything, sure I watch Griffin he is you traditional big men but what I'm trying to say is that there is no huge distance to guys like Rubio and Harden who could potentially be 1 also. i'll simply say he is not the "clear" 1 pick

Have you watched Harden the past month?

Even before he wasn't in Griffin's league...

No he is not the clear #1, but the only player close in Monroe because of his vast potential.

Players like Rubio, Harden, Thabeet are all in the wings because they just lack the full package.

macmac
03-23-2009, 07:38 PM
Griffin is probably the surest player to be drafted first overall since Lebron in 03.

Ricky has potential to be a phenom in the future but he cant touch Griffin right now...Harden fell off hard and anyways isnt athletic enough to become a superstar.

No one has mentioned Derozan, this guy started the year really badly but has shown vast improvements plus he oozes with potential if he puts it all together.

I cant believe ppl are mentioning henderson. The unwritten rule is you dont draft players from Duke. Grant Hill, thats it. Thats all that school can be proud of in the pros.

wang4three
03-23-2009, 07:54 PM
He is as good of a shooter (long and midrange), just as good of a dribbler (uses both hands very well), and has little less to the rim ability (because of his strength), but his rebounding (big difference), passing, and overall leadership ability are all above Henderson.

I don't know if you've actually seen enough Gerald Henderson. Passer? Ball handler? Evan Turner is averaging 4 TOs a game. I'll give you that he's a better rebounder, but that alone does not make him "far superior".

I like Evan. I like him a lot, but I do not think he's better than Gerald at this point. He may be in the future, but as of today, he is not.


If you are going to knock to Turner's consistency ask yourself this question...Where was Gerald Henderson the entire first half of the season?

Evan Turner is a sophomore on a team that has no senior leadership and the 2nd best player is a freshman coming off the bench. He doesn't have to deal with 7 over McDonald's All-Americans to compete for leadership. The situations are completely different. Once they told Henderson that he was to be the leader, he did not stop leading his team. Besides it wasn't even the first half of the season, it was just the non-conference schedule. Once conference play began he was a stud since.

wang4three
03-23-2009, 08:00 PM
I cant believe ppl are mentioning henderson. The unwritten rule is you dont draft players from Duke. Grant Hill, thats it. Thats all that school can be proud of in the pros.
Do you know how hard it is to get into the NBA? You need to have ridiculous talent to get into the NBA, so much talent that they could play on their off hand and be better than everyone not in the NBA. Outside of UNC and possibly UConn (possibly), there aren't many colleges that really consistently pump out NBA stud after NBA stud. The fact that Duke even produces players that make the NBA should alone attest to their ability.

I don't like Duke. I really don't, never really have. I'm not the biggest Coach K fan, I think he's a bit of a phony..but I have the utmost respect for him and the university's basketball program.

It's just hard to make the NBA. Seriously.

macmac
03-23-2009, 10:32 PM
Do you know how hard it is to get into the NBA? You need to have ridiculous talent to get into the NBA, so much talent that they could play on their off hand and be better than everyone not in the NBA. Outside of UNC and possibly UConn (possibly), there aren't many colleges that really consistently pump out NBA stud after NBA stud. The fact that Duke even produces players that make the NBA should alone attest to their ability.

I don't like Duke. I really don't, never really have. I'm not the biggest Coach K fan, I think he's a bit of a phony..but I have the utmost respect for him and the university's basketball program.

It's just hard to make the NBA. Seriously.

Look im not hating on Duke for not having enough good players in the NBA. Im hating on Duke because the players drafted from that program cant really play outside its system. Duke creates overrated player that dont pan out in the NBA. Christian Laettner, Danny Ferry,Corey MAgette, Cherokee Parks, Trajan Langdon....need I go on?

wang4three
03-23-2009, 11:24 PM
Look im not hating on Duke for not having enough good players in the NBA. Im hating on Duke because the players drafted from that program cant really play outside its system. Duke creates overrated player that dont pan out in the NBA. Christian Laettner, Danny Ferry,Corey MAgette, Cherokee Parks, Trajan Langdon....need I go on?
You missed my point. The point isn't that Duke can produce NBA stars, the point is that the NBA is too hard to get into. You can't hold it against a college because the NBA is that hard to get into. Duke gets a bad rep from people cause people think it's magically easy to get into the NBA. What college guarantees stardom in the NBA?

You want to go on? You omit players like Carlos Boozer, Elton Brand, Chris Duhon, Shane Battier, Luol Deng, and Mike Dunleavy who are all doing pretty well for themselves.

Regardless you miss my point. Just cause Duke has had duds from their college doesn't mean that it'll reproduce them. If anything it only attests to how hard the NBA is.

Tips4
03-24-2009, 12:46 AM
Why does everyone think Brandon Jennings will be a bust ? I like his skills and from what i have seen he can be a solid PG, defently looks better than Jammer Nelson.

macmac
03-24-2009, 04:01 AM
You missed my point. The point isn't that Duke can produce NBA stars, the point is that the NBA is too hard to get into. You can't hold it against a college because the NBA is that hard to get into. Duke gets a bad rep from people cause people think it's magically easy to get into the NBA. What college guarantees stardom in the NBA?

You want to go on? You omit players like Carlos Boozer, Elton Brand, Chris Duhon, Shane Battier, Luol Deng, and Mike Dunleavy who are all doing pretty well for themselves.

Regardless you miss my point. Just cause Duke has had duds from their college doesn't mean that it'll reproduce them. If anything it only attests to how hard the NBA is.

The year that Brand came out that whole Duke starting lineup got drafted in the first round, all of them busts. Brand did okay but still somewhat of a disappointment for a first overall pick.

In 2002, Jay Williams and Mike Dunleavy both from duke got picked two and three after international phenom Yao Ming. They got picked over the likes of Caron Butler, Amare, Prince...and boozer who got drafted in the second round. I dont see how this helps your point. Williams completely flopped. Dunleavy sucks for a second overall. And boozer proves my point of how messed up Duke's system is for gaging NBA talent.

See the thing is, you're missing MY point. I know the NBA is goddamn hard to get into. You're not opening my eyes towards the world of elite professional athletes. But Duke which has a pretty solid NCAA program is notorious and has a track record for producing players that get drafted higher than they should be. Which brings me back to my initial argument, Henderson has no business being in the top of this draft class. That is all.

wang4three
03-24-2009, 08:47 AM
The year that Brand came out that whole Duke starting lineup got drafted in the first round, all of them busts. Brand did okay but still somewhat of a disappointment for a first overall pick.

Did ok? The guy is earning over hundreds of millions of dollars for himself. He's doing more than ok. Anyone making multiple All-Star appearances is deserving more praise than that.

Disappointing first overall pick. What player that year rounded out a better career than Elton Brand? Remind you that he has over 12,000 career points, 6,500 rebounds, 1,300 blocks and a career 50% shooter and 74% shooter from the line. That's a fantastic career.


In 2002, Jay Williams and Mike Dunleavy both from duke got picked two and three after international phenom Yao Ming. They got picked over the likes of Caron Butler, Amare, Prince...and boozer who got drafted in the second round. I dont see how this helps your point. Williams completely flopped. Dunleavy sucks for a second overall. And boozer proves my point of how messed up Duke's system is for gaging NBA talent.

That is an unfair assessment of Jay Williams. What happened to him was a tragic accident and to say he "flopped" is completely unwarranted.

If you want to do this, I can do this for the 2005 draft class that took Marvin Williams over Chris Paul and Deron Williams, Raymond Felton, Rashad McCants and Sean May over Danny Granger, David Lee, and Nate Robinson. In 2007, Brandon Wright was taken over Joakim Noah, Spencer Hawes, and Rudy Fernandez.

I guess UNC has the same problem as Duke.

Well, what about going back?

In 1998, Antawn Jamison and Vince Carter went over Paul Pierce, Dirk Nowitzki. In 1994, Eric Montross went over Jalen Rose, Eddie Jones, and Aaron McKie. And there's probably more if I went through it.

Draft position has nothing to do with this argument. Nothing. It has to do with the players cause Duke doesn't determine where their students go in the draft. They can help with how much they succeed and more than enough suggest that they're capable of doing well in the NBA.


See the thing is, you're missing MY point. I know the NBA is goddamn hard to get into. You're not opening my eyes towards the world of elite professional athletes. But Duke which has a pretty solid NCAA program is notorious and has a track record for producing players that get drafted higher than they should be. Which brings me back to my initial argument, Henderson has no business being in the top of this draft class. That is all.

I'm not missing your point, it's just irrelevant. "Notorious?" That's ridiculous. "Notorious?" Duke has no say in where their kids go in the draft. That's the team's fault, not theirs. Just because some GM takes them higher than where they should be is not the fault of the school, it's the fault of the club.

I'm mean seriously, you blame Duke? Really? Do they tell teams to take their players in the lotto? Do they? How is that their fault? Really?

Teams don't draft based on where they came from. It should be the most minimalist of deciding factors. They draft on talent they see and if they can fit in. If you're shunning everyone from Duke, you're just being ignorant and discriminatory. I've seen plenty of Gerald Henderson to suggest he would be a solid to good NBA player. That's all I've been arguing for this entire time. He's a fine player, just cause he went to Duke should not be a hindrance.

Honestly, there is no school that consistently pumps out star after star. Even UNC and UConn has their busts year after year. UNC's latest bunch of lottery picks has not produced a single star yet. Ty Lawson is projected lottery, is he going to get your similar objections? As for UConn, Josh Boone, Marcus Williams have done no more than Shelden Williams and JJ Redick. Sean May and McCants barely did anything more than those two too.

It's just damn hard to get into the NBA.

PleezeBelieve
03-24-2009, 09:40 AM
So ISH still talking like Harden is a top-5 pick? :roll:

All the following will be drafted before Harden if they come out:

Aminu
Tyreke Evans
Tereance Williams
Rubio
Possibly, Jennings
Monroe


And this is off the top of my head. With a draft guide I could give a more detailed list. Basically Harden is a fringe top-10 pick, maybe lottery worthy. In my book, he's a 12-18 draft day grade selection.

LMFAO q the clown who says Harden is a possible #1 draft pick.

Kebab Stall
03-24-2009, 10:12 AM
To Earl Clark is the most overrated player in this draft, i think people are just overhyping him. He is a decent player but people make like he is going to something special in NBA just because he is 6-9 and can play SF. He is an avarage player who wont be anything special, i see a slightly poor man version of Thadeus Young or Marvin Williams.
If Clark lands in the right situation, he should be a solid role player in the NBA. I don't think he will be great and I think it will take him time to get going in the NBA, but once he does get going, he'll be a very solid player and one of the top players from this draft.

UConnCeltics
03-24-2009, 04:38 PM
Do you know how hard it is to get into the NBA? You need to have ridiculous talent to get into the NBA, so much talent that they could play on their off hand and be better than everyone not in the NBA. Outside of UNC and possibly UConn (possibly) there aren't many colleges that really consistently pump out NBA stud after NBA stud. The fact that Duke even produces players that make the NBA should alone attest to their ability.

I don't like Duke. I really don't, never really have. I'm not the biggest Coach K fan, I think he's a bit of a phony..but I have the utmost respect for him and the university's basketball program.

It's just hard to make the NBA. Seriously.
UConn fanhood/homerism in effect.

Williams/Ollie
Allen/Hamilton/Gordon
Gay/Butler/Marshall
Villanueva/Boone
Okafor/Armstrong

If I am correct I'm pretty sure all were first rounders, I think I may be missing a few. Upgrade that possible to sure thing.

wang4three
03-24-2009, 05:44 PM
UConn fanhood/homerism in effect.

Williams/Ollie
Allen/Hamilton/Gordon
Gay/Butler/Marshall
Villanueva/Boone
Okafor/Armstrong

If I am correct I'm pretty sure all were first rounders, I think I may be missing a few. Upgrade that possible to sure thing.

Reason I wrote possibly is because of length of tenure like a UNC. UNC has been pumping out stars forever.

No university is a "sure thing" though. None.

KobeRules24
03-24-2009, 05:51 PM
AD Vassallo

UConnCeltics
03-24-2009, 06:15 PM
Reason I wrote possibly is because of length of tenure like a UNC. UNC has been pumping out stars forever.

No university is a "sure thing" though. None.
True, but UConn has been going pretty strong since 94ish or whenever Allen/Marshall were drafted.

Masterz313
03-24-2009, 06:21 PM
Rubio could be another Baragnanni.
Overseas player. Seems amazing. Goes high in draft. Plays fairly well but not worth as high if a pick as we was taken.
Harden, I think Hasheem Thabeet will do well.
Tyler Hansbrough could be real good on the right team.


to be fair - bargnani has just started to scratch the surface though, we dont even know what his ceiling is yet

rubio looked real solid playing hurt in the olympics - not flashy, just a cool character with the ball in his hands

i dont really see a team where hansbrough makes a difference

Grinder
03-24-2009, 07:37 PM
Ricky Rubio.

Kobe_6/8
02-10-2016, 10:14 AM
Curry > Rubio

You will all see!!!



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so if he leaves a guy like Curry could definitely be the pick. But if it's over Monroe then I'm sending some really nasty emails.

:lol