Here's some REAL advice on how to get the girl you want.

[Legend of Josh]

After reading the whole [Tip: Get a Girlfriend] thread, it somewhat rubbed me the wrong way, because the guy is just way off to say the least. According to his plan, it'll take you quite a while to finally get what you're looking for in a woman when it's not necessary at all, really.

Why not take the shortcut? I'm not talking about steroids! I'm talking about you pitiful dudes out there who think you have absolutely no shot at landing a decent looking woman. You guys just need to wake the hell up and redesign your whole outlook on women in general.

It's actually very simple. Let me show you the way.

First off, understand all women to a huge degree do not like the courtship crap. I don't care what the girl tells you or what you think her perception is, don't believe it. Woman hate to be overly complimented and smothered with knowing their interest of the opposite sex is constantly thinking of them and doing extravagant things for them. You have to know when to play your cards, but unfortunately this is something loser guys will never understand.

Secondly, understand all women love a challenge. There's nothing more intriguing to a woman than knowing or thinking there's something that she can't have. She will go out of her way to ensure she gets it... that's simply the nature of women. That's not just with relationships either. You tell a woman she can't be a CEO, and the next thing you know she's empowered to do whatever it takes to get on that level. You tell a woman she can't drive a big rig 18 wheeler, and the very next day she's hauling cargo for Wal-Mart. Never underestimate the power of telling or giving a woman the perception that she can't have something. More importantly, use this to your advantage!

This is even more true with relationships. Let us say for example woman A has a slight interest in man A, but she has an even heavier interest in man B. Now woman A gets to know each of these men. She comes to find out man A isn't all that interested in her, but that man B is overly interested in woman A. At this point she's no longer all that interested in man B, however man A is you guessed it! DING! DING! DING! A challenge to her now! Suddenly out of nowhere she's greatly interested in man A. This is susceptible for all women! There are no exceptions.

Lastly, realize that nice guys always finish last. This is just fact. Maybe 1 in 100 will get lucky and you see that freakishly normal looking extravagantly nice guy who lands the perfect 10 chick, but realistically this almost never happens. Nice guys just don't attract women. Women want a man that is in control, and not the other way around. Some women feel very comfortable and at ease when they're in control of the relationship, but just know that woman has almost no desire for you sexually or mentally and in the long haul she'll just end up either leaving you or having sexual relations on the side with the "bad boy" type.

Lastly + 1 - you have to just straight up be mean and jerkish with your woman from time to time. Don't force it, just let it be natural. Don't take no bullshit from your girl. If she's bitching or complaining about some straight up bullshit that has no business even being brought up, then you block that shit like Mutombo and wave the finger. Tell her that bullshit argument crap has no business in your relationship. If she has a valid point, that's different, but if she's just bitching just to bitch, let her know straight up you're not her punching bag and if she can't get that through her head, then get the **** out of there. I guarantee that shit will stop in a heartbeat. You have to let your woman know you're actually wearing the pants in the relationship. Again, not forcing it... because she will pick up on that and think you're trying too hard to "be the man" to impress her and it will backfire on you. Be careful about it, and most importantly, make it natural. Make it who you are! She will secretly respect you for it.

_____

So to sum all this up in three easy steps. Here's your shortcut to getting a decent looking girl without having to date fat chicks and work your way up the ladder.

1) Throw that courtship crap out the window. Stay away from flowers, opening doors, pulling chairs, etc. It might be cute at first, but very quickly it will just turn women off. Don't be a gentleman.

2) Always remember every woman wants a challenge; especially at first in a relationship. If a chick is on the rebound, that's a bit different, just beware once she's off that rebound she will then be much less interested in you because you've got her "back on her feet again" ... play it safe, always let any girl you're trying to date think you're not that interested in her, but that you are to a small degree.

3) Be the occasional jerk, naturally. Nice guys always finish last! Don't take no shit from a bitch. Women love confidence more than anything in a man, and woman want to be controlled despite how much they scream and shout about wanting to be equals. Deep inside, they want to be with a man that they feel will protect them at all times (this is simple genetics dating back to the caveman era), and that's not the nice guy type. Be a man, be in control of your woman.

You're welcome.

[monthh]

You are right on, but like you said it has to be natural for it work. I think it needs to be in your genes otherwise it looks fake and girls won't buy it.

[Younggrease]

Surprisingly on point...

[rufuspaul]

You da man Josh.

[B-Low]

lol how the hell is this on point? You can always tell guys who have no idea how to function in a real long term relationship...

[ALBballer]

If you want to pick up bytches, then yeah your on point.

[LJJ]

I just say it like it is.

[CasterL]

this is definatley on point for so far in my life. sounds about bang on for girls ive known 16 to mid twenties if ur trying to get her interested in u.

when u get a bit older i dont know if theese tactics would work in a serious relatiotionship say in ur 30s


also so true about nice guys finishing last

[Legend of Josh]

lol how the hell is this on point? You can always tell guys who have no idea how to function in a real long term relationship...

Dude... I've been with the same girl for 8 going on 9 years now and I still know how to write a book on how to pull womenz. You just sound jealous to me, that's all.

:lol

This is on point. Real talk. I know it goes against your experiences and what you feel is right and just... but in the real world B-Low... LOJ knows. Come see me when you're ready to be a real man.

:oldlol:

[nbastatus]

If you want to pick up bytches, then yeah your on point.
yup.

[mlh1981]

I guess it all depends on what you are looking for, how old the woman is that you want, and what stage of life each of you are at. I've done some of these things in my own relationship that is going on right now. I don't know if they all would work for me, per say.

One thing I always lived by when I was in college and a single man on the prowl...........NEVER buy drinks for a random girl at a bar. NEVER do that. That's a suckers game. They will use you and bleed you dry. Also, if I ever got a number, I would be sure not to call immediately afterwards. Maybe the next day, yeah, but not more than maybe 1-2 times if they don't answer right away.

""I've been trying to get ahold of you all day. Why aren't you getting back to me? I had a great time last night and feel a great bond. Please call me back right away."

:hammerhead: :oldlol:

[Legend of Josh]

I guess it all depends on what you are looking for, how old the woman is that you want, and what stage of life each of you are at. I've done some of these things in my own relationship that is going on right now. I don't know if they all would work for me, per say.

One thing I always lived by when I was in college and a single man on the prowl...........NEVER buy drinks for a random girl at a bar. NEVER do that. That's a suckers game. They will use you and bleed you dry. Also, if I ever got a number, I would be sure not to call immediately afterwards. Maybe the next day, yeah, but not more than maybe 1-2 times if they don't answer right away.

""I've been trying to get ahold of you all day. Why aren't you getting back to me? I had a great time last night and feel a great bond. Please call me back right away."

You're blossoming into a fine young man MLH, good for you.

:cheers:

The older you get... the more and more you'll realize how easy it really is to tap into a woman's mind... any woman... take your pick? It doesn't matter. Is she an 8? OK, cool. A 9 or 10, even better! At the end of the day, the only thing that actually matters is that you know how to tap into that woman's mind... and once you do that and she knows you've done that... it's easy pickings from there. Show her who's mind is the real champ, and the beautiful ladies will always follow.

This is fact, not fiction. Sorry B-Low.

:oldlol:

[mlh1981]

You're blossoming into a fine young man MLH, good for you.

:cheers:

The older you get... the more and more you'll realize how easy it really is to tap into a woman's mind... any woman... take your pick? It doesn't matter. Is she an 8? OK, cool. A 9 or 10, even better! At the end of the day, the only thing that actually matters is that you know how to tap into that woman's mind... and once you do that and she knows you've done that... it's easy pickings from there. Show her who's mind is the real champ, and the beautiful ladies will always follow.

This is fact, not fiction. Sorry B-Low.

:oldlol:


I think women past a certain age would be quite hard to figure out, because my own personal experiences has been with females in their 20s. If I were single and after an older woman, for instance, it would present a whole new set of challenges. The college student/partier/bar/young professional woman is much different from a woman in her late 30s (about the oldest I'd be willing to go) who maybe has had a few previous marriages and a kid.

It does seem like, though, in the past, when I was at my upmost confidence with certain women, that the rug would always be pulled out from underneath me, so I can never claim to be some sort of expert on understanding them. No man is. My girl says I'm pretty damn hard to figure out, too, so it works both ways.

[v-unit]

Good stuff. There will always be haters though.

[Legend of Josh]

Good stuff. There will always be haters though.

What do you mean? I'm just some psychopath nutjob who creates pointless threads / stories for no reason whatsoever and then when he's feeling froggy might whip up a new persona on the internets!

Why would someone be hatin' on that guy?

:confusedshrug:

Dude is a phucking loser with no real life. Oh, and he's losing his hair! OMG!

:lol

[Jailblazers7]

These how to get women threads are a joke. The only thing you need to do is get used to talking to women and become comfortable with your own personality. Following a guideline just looks forced and awkward.

[Legend of Josh]

These how to get women threads are a joke. The only thing you need to do is get used to talking to women and become comfortable with your own personality. Following a guideline just looks forced and awkward.

Actually, dipshit, the advise I giveth will probably help many-a-young-lads in the future with the womenz. It's actually sound advice compared to the whole date fat chicks first then work your way up method.

When I read that I was like LOL @ that shit. I felt compelled to educate the youngsters on ISH how things actually work in the real world.

Everyone keeps forgetting I'm the most valuable poster here. You should have just said thank you kind sir and be on your way. If you ask me, it sounds like you really don't know much about pulling girls, otherwise you would have just nodded your head like the other posters here who know what I'm talking about.

[ikoiko]

Actually, dipshit, the advise I giveth will probably help many-a-young-lads in the future with the womenz. It's actually sound advice compared to the whole date fat chicks first then work your way up method.

When I read that I was like LOL @ that shit. I felt compelled to educate the youngsters on ISH how things actually work in the real world.

Everyone keeps forgetting I'm the most valuable poster here. You should have just said thank you kind sir and be on your way. If you ask me, it sounds like you really don't know much about pulling girls, otherwise you would have just nodded your head like the other posters here who know what I'm talking about.

Stop being a d1ckhead. Jailblazers7 is 100% right and you basically copied the advice from The Game by Neil Strauss but put it way worse than that book did. So much for the self-proclaimed most valuable poster.

[KeylessEntry]

These how to get women threads are a joke. The only thing you need to do is get used to talking to women and become comfortable with your own personality. Following a guideline just looks forced and awkward.

I agree. Following some kind of script or formula to pull in chicks will just make you come off as forced and uncomfortable most of the time.

That said, I think the only person on this site who I would even consider taking any dating advice from is Jay Guevara, because he is the only ISH member to prove he is drenched in good looking tang.

[Hawker]

You make it seem so easy. I guess it's just natural to you.

I watched the movie Swingers last week. I think that movie has some good advice.

[ikoiko]

You make it seem so easy. I guess it's just natural to you.

I watched the movie Swingers last week. I think that movie has some good advice.

I can't imagine anyone who comes across as arrogant as LegendOfJosh does in this thread has any real luck with the ladies.

[Hawker]

I can't imagine anyone who comes across as arrogant as LegendOfJosh does in this thread has any real luck with the ladies.

I trust LegendofJosh has luck with the ladies even though he's been with a woman for a loooong time.

There's some people I dont trust though like gencbiba. He said he got pu$$y like 3 times in the past three months or something.

If I ever got some *****, I sure as hell know nobody would believe me either.

[rufuspaul]

You make it seem so easy. I guess it's just natural to you.

I watched the movie Swingers last week. I think that movie has some good advice.

The scene where he leaves that chick all those phone messages is classic.

[-primetime-]

the only way these rules (that are well known to most guys) make sense is if you are looking for a short term relationship...

none of these things will work in the long term...eventually the "I'm a cool a-hole that refuses to buy flowers" routine will start to get really old...

unfortunatly the opposite does in fact get old to them as well...

females are simply impossible to please in the long term...and Chris Rock said it best in that "girls want EVERYTHING"...

you're rich = they are sick of being a slave to your wallet

you're poor = they are sick of you being a slave to their wallet

you're too manly = they need an emotional man that can relate to their feelings

you're too girly = they are sick of being with a wuss

ect, ect, ect...


if it wasn't for what we know as "children" then I don't think long term relationships would even exist on this planet...

[Hawker]

The scene where he leaves that chick all those phone messages is classic.

Haha, ya. I couldn't stop laughing.

[dnyk1337]

this is the loj i used to enjoy reading... :applause:

[Legend of Josh]

Stop being a d1ckhead. Jailblazers7 is 100% right and you basically copied the advice from The Game by Neil Strauss but put it way worse than that book did. So much for the self-proclaimed most valuable poster.

WTF are you talking about? I haven't read any "book" from anyone else. I'm just putting the truth out there.

I guess v-unit was right.

:oldlol:

(by the way, fu*k off)

[JtotheIzzo]

After reading the whole [Tip: Get a Girlfriend] thread, it somewhat rubbed me the wrong way, because the guy is just way off to say the least. According to his plan, it'll take you quite a while to finally get what you're looking for in a woman when it's not necessary at all, really.

Why not take the shortcut? I'm not talking about steroids! I'm talking about you pitiful dudes out there who think you have absolutely no shot at landing a decent looking woman. You guys just need to wake the hell up and redesign your whole outlook on women in general.

It's actually very simple. Let me show you the way.

First off, understand all women to a huge degree do not like the courtship crap. I don't care what the girl tells you or what you think her perception is, don't believe it. Woman hate to be overly complimented and smothered with knowing their interest of the opposite sex is constantly thinking of them and doing extravagant things for them. You have to know when to play your cards, but unfortunately this is something loser guys will never understand.

Secondly, understand all women love a challenge. There's nothing more intriguing to a woman than knowing or thinking there's something that she can't have. She will go out of her way to ensure she gets it... that's simply the nature of women. That's not just with relationships either. You tell a woman she can't be a CEO, and the next thing you know she's empowered to do whatever it takes to get on that level. You tell a woman she can't drive a big rig 18 wheeler, and the very next day she's hauling cargo for Wal-Mart. Never underestimate the power of telling or giving a woman the perception that she can't have something. More importantly, use this to your advantage!

This is even more true with relationships. Let us say for example woman A has a slight interest in man A, but she has an even heavier interest in man B. Now woman A gets to know each of these men. She comes to find out man A isn't all that interested in her, but that man B is overly interested in woman A. At this point she's no longer all that interested in man B, however man A is you guessed it! DING! DING! DING! A challenge to her now! Suddenly out of nowhere she's greatly interested in man A. This is susceptible for all women! There are no exceptions.

Lastly, realize that nice guys always finish last. This is just fact. Maybe 1 in 100 will get lucky and you see that freakishly normal looking extravagantly nice guy who lands the perfect 10 chick, but realistically this almost never happens. Nice guys just don't attract women. Women want a man that is in control, and not the other way around. Some women feel very comfortable and at ease when they're in control of the relationship, but just know that woman has almost no desire for you sexually or mentally and in the long haul she'll just end up either leaving you or having sexual relations on the side with the "bad boy" type.

Lastly + 1 - you have to just straight up be mean and jerkish with your woman from time to time. Don't force it, just let it be natural. Don't take no bullshit from your girl. If she's bitching or complaining about some straight up bullshit that has no business even being brought up, then you block that shit like Mutombo and wave the finger. Tell her that bullshit argument crap has no business in your relationship. If she has a valid point, that's different, but if she's just bitching just to bitch, let her know straight up you're not her punching bag and if she can't get that through her head, then get the **** out of there. I guarantee that shit will stop in a heartbeat. You have to let your woman know you're actually wearing the pants in the relationship. Again, not forcing it... because she will pick up on that and think you're trying too hard to "be the man" to impress her and it will backfire on you. Be careful about it, and most importantly, make it natural. Make it who you are! She will secretly respect you for it.

_____

So to sum all this up in three easy steps. Here's your shortcut to getting a decent looking girl without having to date fat chicks and work your way up the ladder.

1) Throw that courtship crap out the window. Stay away from flowers, opening doors, pulling chairs, etc. It might be cute at first, but very quickly it will just turn women off. Don't be a gentleman.

2) Always remember every woman wants a challenge; especially at first in a relationship. If a chick is on the rebound, that's a bit different, just beware once she's off that rebound she will then be much less interested in you because you've got her "back on her feet again" ... play it safe, always let any girl you're trying to date think you're not that interested in her, but that you are to a small degree.

3) Be the occasional jerk, naturally. Nice guys always finish last! Don't take no shit from a bitch. Women love confidence more than anything in a man, and woman want to be controlled despite how much they scream and shout about wanting to be equals. Deep inside, they want to be with a man that they feel will protect them at all times (this is simple genetics dating back to the caveman era), and that's not the nice guy type. Be a man, be in control of your woman.

You're welcome.


when that all fails, pay her bar fine

[Legend of Josh]

I can't imagine anyone who comes across as arrogant as LegendOfJosh does in this thread has any real luck with the ladies.

You sound like a straight up fool. Just go away already.

[dnyk1337]

I trust LegendofJosh has luck with the ladies even though he's been with a woman for a loooong time.

There's some people I dont trust though like gencbiba. He said he got pu$$y like 3 times in the past three months or something.

If I ever got some *****, I sure as hell know nobody would believe me either.

Trust me with what? I have never said I know more than the average man. Plus it's easier to hit when you know basically everyone around the city that's from your country and you hang out a lot. I don't expect many Americans to understand that though.

[Skywalker]

Step 20: Don't have a baldhead shiny enough to replace the sun if need be. Sure she wants you to be her sun shine but not literally.

btw just legendofJoshin

[Legend of Josh]

Oh man... that was epic!

:rolleyes:

more like...

:sleeping

[Skywalker]

just JOSHIN legendofjoshin hehehe

[Lamar Doom]

both these posts are ridiculous. the man who is most comfortable in his own skin will not have problems finding love or sex. i.e.- figure out who you are and be yourself. he's dead on about the confidence thing, but that comes from within, not some labored contrived effort to be standoffish or bad ass. there is truth in both these posts, women don't like to be smothered or overly-courted, but you start over thinking sh*t and getting into game playing and you're lost. like some others said, some of this stuff maybe good if you're looking for insecure young girls who get wet over alpha males or other iconic archtypes, but real girls want you to bring the real, period.

[HisJoeness]

just JOSHIN legendofjoshin hehehe

Yo, Skywalker.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125349

[Jailblazers7]

Actually, dipshit, the advise I giveth will probably help many-a-young-lads in the future with the womenz. It's actually sound advice compared to the whole date fat chicks first then work your way up method.

When I read that I was like LOL @ that shit. I felt compelled to educate the youngsters on ISH how things actually work in the real world.

Everyone keeps forgetting I'm the most valuable poster here. You should have just said thank you kind sir and be on your way. If you ask me, it sounds like you really don't know much about pulling girls, otherwise you would have just nodded your head like the other posters here who know what I'm talking about.

Actually, I have enough success in the real world with women that I don't have to come on the internet bragging about my superiority with women. I don't have to be an "asshole" to pick up women contrary to popular belief. All it takes is a little playful flirting and the confidence to be comfortable in your own skin.

You can have your ISH MVP award I'm sure you can show it off and show it to all the women you must get with your expert advice.

[nbastatus]

so being nice toward girls will decrease your chance of being with her??

[RoseCity07]

It's not that nice guys finish last, it's not the being nice part. It's that they're ******* that don't know how to ask for what they want. They let woman walk all over them and apologize for wanting what they want. You just got to realize you never have to apologize for being a man. Take what you want, and nothing that happens between you and a woman is wrong.

Personally, I'm not cocky, I just come off as cocky because I say what ever I want and don't say I'm sorry if I say something offensive.

[Legend of Josh]

both these posts are ridiculous. the man who is most comfortable in his own skin will not have problems finding love or sex. i.e.- figure out who you are and be yourself. he's dead on about the confidence thing, but that comes from within, not some labored contrived effort to be standoffish or bad ass. there is truth in both these posts, women don't like to be smothered or overly-courted, but you start over thinking sh*t and getting into game playing and you're lost. like some others said, some of this stuff maybe good if you're looking for insecure young girls who get wet over alpha males or other iconic archtypes, but real girls want you to bring the real, period.

You basically just said my post was "ridiculous" then came around saying you agree with what I stated.

I suppose you would automatically have an advantage over us normal males, since you're homo I guess you already know what's going on inside a woman's head. Perhaps you should make your own thread and teach us, oh gay one.

:oldlol:

[Legend of Josh]

Actually, I have enough success in the real world with women that I don't have to come on the internet bragging about my superiority with women. I don't have to be an "asshole" to pick up women contrary to popular belief. All it takes is a little playful flirting and the confidence to be comfortable in your own skin.

You can have your ISH MVP award I'm sure you can show it off and show it to all the women you must get with your expert advice.

First, you need to realize I wasn't bragging. I was simply providing concrete advise. I read the other guy's logic in the Tip: Get a Girlfriend thread and I didn't agree with it, whatsoever. Therefore, I created this thread to show a different more realistic perspective.

To each their own, but if you follow my advice and you're naturally that way I described by nature, you're going to pick up very attractive womenz. It's just fact. If that's who you are and you don't agree with my advice, that's fine I have no problem with that. Different strokes for different folks. However, most people that actually have some extensive experience with women will tell you my advice is very real, and very useful.

If all that came across as being cocky to you, cool. You call it cocky, I just call it confidence and just me, being me.

[Jailblazers7]

If all that came across as being cocky to you, cool. You call it cocky, I just call it confidence and just me, being me.

That statement sums up what I'm trying to say. The advice that you gave might work for you because that is your personality. The same advice won't work for others because it would be them forcing themselves to act that way.

In my opinion, acting in a way that isn't genuine is just too tiresome and not worth it. If you are comfortable with yourself and act naturally others will like you. Learning to be natural around women is more important than anything when trying to get with someone. And when I say natural I mean natural but still agressive not passive and overly friendly(which is sort of a point you made).

[MarloStanfield]

That statement sums up what I'm trying to say. The advice that you gave might work for you because that is your personality. The same advice won't work for others because it would be them forcing themselves to act that way.

In my opinion, acting in a way that isn't genuine is just too tiresome and not worth it. If you are comfortable with yourself and act naturally others will like you. Learning to be natural around women is more important than anything when trying to get with someone. And when I say natural I mean natural but still agressive not passive and overly friendly(which is sort of a point you made).
you are wise beyond your years, my brotha from anotha motha

[Legend of Josh]

That statement sums up what I'm trying to say. The advice that you gave might work for you because that is your personality. The same advice won't work for others because it would be them forcing themselves to act that way.

In my opinion, acting in a way that isn't genuine is just too tiresome and not worth it. If you are comfortable with yourself and act naturally others will like you. Learning to be natural around women is more important than anything when trying to get with someone. And when I say natural I mean natural but still agressive not passive and overly friendly(which is sort of a point you made).

LOL, so yeah I was reading what you wrote and then got to the highlighted red - then I thought to myself, isn't that exactly what I just said? You're basically saying what I said was right and on point. When providing my points of advice, time and time again I said "let it come naturally" and "not forced" ... so I don't get what you're trying to get at.

If someone is just the "nice guy" type and they're incapable of changing, then they're just sh*t out of luck. People can change... it just takes someone to show them the light so they can open them and stop walking around in relationship darkness.

This is not me giving advice to a married couple of 10 years. This is me trying to give advice to those trying to pick up women... which is what this thread was about first and foremost.

Everything I mentioned will not work 100% for everyone, but just in general what I said was very much on point, and a hell of a lot more accurate when being compared to just about anything else I've read on this message board of online in general about picking up the womenz.

[Jailblazers7]

Alright, then I guess we are somewhat in agreement on the subject.

[Legend of Josh]

Alright, then I guess we are somewhat in agreement on the subject.

I can see what you were getting at too... in that people honestly shouldn't need to come on the internets and seek advice on how to get better at being around women. It's just that people need help sometimes! Some people can excellent at math or making crafts, but maybe that math guy or craft making goober needs some assistance in the "how do I pick up chicks" department. I provided my services free of charge, just because I'm nice like that :-D

[Jailblazers7]

How chairitable of you. :oldlol:

Regardless of how much advice someone recieves the only thing that will really build confidence and get their "game" up to par is experience with talking to/picking up women. The best thing someone can do to improve at picking up women is learn from their mistakes.

[MarloStanfield]

How chairitable of you. :oldlol:

Regardless of how much advice someone recieves the only thing that will really build confidence and get their "game" up to par is experience with talking to/picking up women. The best thing someone can do to improve at picking up women is learn from their mistakes.
life 101 my *****

[Legend of Josh]

How chairitable of you. :oldlol:

Regardless of how much advice someone recieves the only thing that will really build confidence and get their "game" up to par is experience with talking to/picking up women. The best thing someone can do to improve at picking up women is learn from their mistakes.

I'll agree that experience plays a part, but then if you say it's all about experience then you'd agree much more with the Tip: Get a Girlfriend author. Whereas with me, I think it has much, much more to do with just who you are in general and how you actually perceive women, and not how much experience you have around them.

Who You Are + Your Perception of Women > Experience With Women

[Jailblazers7]

I'll agree that experience plays a part, but then if you say it's all about experience then you'd agree much more with the Tip: Get a Girlfriend author. Whereas with me, I think it has much, much more to do with just who you are in general and how you actually perceive women, and not how much experience you have around them.

Who You Are + Your Perception of Women > Experience With Women

All of those things are really just peices to the same puzzle. Your perception of women is going to change from your experiences, that is unavoidable. Naturally, you are going to adapt to these changing perceptions and adjust your approach to be successful.

[White Chocolate]

Women can be manipulated so easily it's not even funny. Just for the record, I'm nice and never had a problem. Then again, I'm not the average looking dude. :rockon:

[HisJoeness]

All of those things are really just peices to the same puzzle. Your perception of women is going to change from your experiences, that is unavoidable. Naturally, you are going to adapt to these changing perceptions and adjust your approach to be successful.

Is that K-Os in your avy?

[Jailblazers7]

Is that K-Os in your avy?

Yep.

[HisJoeness]

:applause:

Love him.

:cheers:

[Jailblazers7]

:applause:

Love him.

:cheers:
:cheers:


Cheers to that mate. Joyful Rebellion and Atlantis: Hymns for Disco is great stuff.

[HisJoeness]

:cheers:


Cheers to that mate. Joyful Rebellion and Atlantis: Hymns for Disco is great stuff.

No doubt.

[JerzeyBlaze]

I do agree about putting ur woman in check. Cause u know what these women out here really think they wear the pants in this relationship...sometimes you gotta lay down the law. The way that you know you have your woman in check is if you can make her cry. Like if your in an arguement, and your just so cold hearted and she cries...you know that your in control. Now im not saying to always do this. But sometimes these women do get out of hand. Its best to be Stone Cold when dealing with these chicks...

[Tainted Sword]

Anyone having problems with women should check out

[lilderrickrose]

Legend of Josh was right on. Nice guys always finish last.

[FIXED]

[QUOTE=Tainted Sword]Anyone having problems with women should check out

[B-Low]

Legend of Josh was right on. Nice guys always finish last.

ok im sick of this. i wanna hear from all the nice guys on ISH who have girls or at least have good success with women. Let's make a list

1. B-Low

[Lamar Doom]

You basically just said my post was "ridiculous" then came around saying you agree with what I stated.

I suppose you would automatically have an advantage over us normal males, since you're homo I guess you already know what's going on inside a woman's head. Perhaps you should make your own thread and teach us, oh gay one.

:oldlol:


girls love pictures of anime girls bent over. you got so much game it must be seeping out of your bald head your f*cking retard inbred slap dick.

[PistolPete]

I've got my article and this thread bookmarked for future references. I'm tempted to try the one I posted because I think it presents more of a challenge to go out with someone you probably don't really want to have anything to do with. And of course it's true, the more women you are around the more interesting you become around others.

The advice in this thread comes a bit more normal although I don't know how long I could keep up the dlckhead act up.

[White Chocolate]

ok im sick of this. i wanna hear from all the nice guys on ISH who have girls or at least have good success with women. Let's make a list

1. B-Low


I second that. Though to be honest, I think the nice guy thing only works if you're good looking.

[kobesabi]

P.u.g?

[mattreis62]

It's not about being an asshole, it's about not being a doormat. Girls don't want you to treat them like shit, but you can't let them walk all over you either. Hot women are used to guys worshiping them and they are intrigued by a guy who doesn't put up with their games.

[Jailblazers7]

ok im sick of this. i wanna hear from all the nice guys on ISH who have girls or at least have good success with women. Let's make a list

1. B-Low

1. B-Low
2. Jailblazers

[rufuspaul]

1. B-Low
2. Jailblazers

http://s5.tinypic.com/2wdu29t.jpg

[Legend of Josh]

girls love pictures of anime girls bent over. you got so much game it must be seeping out of your bald head your f*cking retard inbred slap dick.

It's not technically "anime" you dipshit. It's Chun Li for christ-sakes.

:rolleyes:

Another bald joke, extravagantly humorous.

:applause:

If you wore a shirt saying "I'm gay - yes homo!" I'm wondering exactly how many women you'd pick up. How many chicks / girls / women actually wouldn't mind dating / sleeping with a guy who spreads his ass cheeks and lets another man blow his back out or vise versa?

You sick phuck.

[White Chocolate]

It's not about being an asshole, it's about not being a doormat. Girls don't want you to treat them like shit, but you can't let them walk all over you either. Hot women are used to guys worshiping them and they are intrigued by a guy who doesn't put up with their games.


:cheers: :cheers: You hit the nail on the head.

[Lamar Doom]

It's not technically "anime" you dipshit. It's Chun Li for christ-sakes.

:rolleyes:


oh, video game girls, that'll get them wet.



Another bald joke, extravagantly humorous.
If you wore a shirt saying "I'm gay - yes homo!" I'm wondering exactly how many women you'd pick up.
:applause:


oh, calling people gay, you are a groundbreaking e-comedian. really edgy original stuff man.



you're a f*ck ugly ignorant loser, anybody taking your advice on how to get girls is in trouble.

[HisAirness]

girls love pictures of anime girls bent over. you got so much game it must be seeping out of your bald head your f*cking retard inbred slap dick.

I'm telling Damian Lewis.

[tgan3]

Actually, I dont think your tactic works. Being an a hole all the time is not gonna attract any mature woman, maybe girls in their teens? Cause then is when they are rebellious by nature.

THe trick is not to be too devoted by also show you are a nice guy...thats what i think anyway...

[Legend of Josh]

oh, video game girls, that'll get them wet.



oh, calling people gay, you are a groundbreaking e-comedian. really edgy original stuff man.



you're a f*ck ugly ignorant loser, anybody taking your advice on how to get girls is in trouble.

You're phucking ridiculous mang. Guaranteed, I can pick up more females than you. Who the phuck are you to say I'm ugly? What a joke LOL. You're probably gay simply because you can't pick up chicks and therefore gay dudes will phuck anything and everything that moves and thus you found a group of people that will actually accept you...

You look emo in all your pics... depressed half the time I'm sure... probably on phucking anti-depressants... tell me I'm wrong!

:oldlol:

[B-Low]

You're probably gay simply because you can't pick up chicks and therefore gay dudes will phuck anything and everything that moves and thus you found a group of people that will actually accept you.


huh??

[lilmarcgasol]

:roll:
lol how the hell is this on point? You can always tell guys who have no idea how to function in a real long term relationship...
its on point how is it not, arent you the same guy who apparently hooked up with 50 girls but refused to have sex with them? What do you know about women and long term relationships? And then you posted a pic of your bulbous ex girlfriend trying to explain to everyone she wasnt a whale, just thick? :roll:

The part about being an a-hole on purpose tho from legend of josh, thats just immature. Theres a mediation between doting pushover nice guy and a-hole and that is the balance you should go for

[B-Low]

i dont know why i even respond to you anymore. but for the millionth time it was some chick off rate-hispanic, not my gf/ex. I was using her to make a point.

Bruinlove trust me any girl you've ever been rejected by, i could probably get. And any girl you've ever gotten, I'd probably turn down. I don't like bein arrogant but I >>> you. Not an opinion, but a fact.

[lilmarcgasol]

i dont know why i even respond to you anymore. but for the millionth time it was some chick off rate-hispanic, not my gf/ex. I was using her to make a point.

Bruinlove trust me any girl you've ever been rejected by, i could probably get. And any girl you've ever gotten, I'd probably turn down. I don't like bein arrogant but I >>> you. Not an opinion, but a fact.
why did you claim the bulbous whale was your girlfriend then? You even cut out her face from the pic cuz u said you didnt want to put your gfs pic online

Why do you have to try so hard to prove your 'woman credentials' and then back out of the claim of a girl being your girlfrend when everyone says how fat she is?

and no you couldnt get with any girl B-low, because in your own words, you turn them all down because you 'dont want to go that far with them; lol

[phoenix18]

Dude... I've been with the same girl for 8 going on 9 years now and I still know how to write a book on how to pull womenz. You just sound jealous to me, that's all.

:lol

This is on point. Real talk. I know it goes against your experiences and what you feel is right and just... but in the real world B-Low... LOJ knows. Come see me when you're ready to be a real man.

:oldlol:

Maybe she gives out crappy advice to her friends too

[Waking_Life]

i need some advice on how to 'get rid' of my girl

[Lamar Doom]

You're phucking ridiculous mang. Guaranteed, I can pick up more females than you. Who the phuck are you to say I'm ugly? What a joke LOL. You're probably gay simply because you can't pick up chicks and therefore gay dudes will phuck anything and everything that moves and thus you found a group of people that will actually accept you...

You look emo in all your pics... depressed half the time I'm sure... probably on phucking anti-depressants... tell me I'm wrong!

:oldlol:


hahaha, i think we're done here.

[Legend of Josh]

hahaha, i think we're done here.

Exactly... LOL... it looks like I might have pulled your card on being on anti-depressants. I even told you to tell me I'm wrong... and you simply reply "we're done here" ... nuff said!

:lol

[Lamar Doom]

Exactly... LOL... it looks like I might have pulled your card on being on anti-depressants. I even told you to tell me I'm wrong... and you simply reply "we're done here" ... nuff said!

:lol

hardly man (no anti-depressants to answer your question, tylenol and recreational drugs are about the only ones i use), you're just a f*cking idiot who made very little sense in your last post. was just saying there's no need to further dignify your ramblings with response. anyone worth their salt reading this knows you're a f*ck head. anyone who has to make contrived efforts to be a dick to women to get them is a full on diluted loser in my book. i'm sure there are plenty of low quality insecure young girls who fall for that sh*t, but as far as "pulling" women worth my while, i promise you lose that battle, because clearly your soul is sh*t.

[stuckey.and1]

its okay a lot of kids are put on drugs i was for one

this was good advice i mean really its all practice for me until i meet her
before i would have felt ashamed saying that but i dont care now

[Legend of Josh]

lol how the hell is this on point? You can always tell guys who have no idea how to function in a real long term relationship...

Yeah. Please tell me this is a joke? "how the hell is this on point?" when it's entirely real talk. IDK man, I'll let you figure that out. Maybe you were just trying to be funny. SMH. Are you going to actually tell me and everyone else here the whole "nice guys finish last" is bullshit, when it's truthfully been that way since the dawn of mankind? I'm thinking you've grown up a bit since your post, and you now realize the legitimacy behind what I said.

I think back at the time I posted this, me and you were beef'n a bit, so maybe that was it. Then again, this was also about the same time you were stuck in that New Mexico B-Low mindset where you thought courtship, you know, flowers, love letters, cards, whispering sweet things in a little girl's ears was the sure-shot way into a girl's pants. LOL, but damn dude, I hope to God you now today know that's complete and total bullshit.

[Legend of Josh]

hardly man (no anti-depressants to answer your question, tylenol and recreational drugs are about the only ones i use), you're just a f*cking idiot who made very little sense in your last post. was just saying there's no need to further dignify your ramblings with response. anyone worth their salt reading this knows you're a f*ck head. anyone who has to make contrived efforts to be a dick to women to get them is a full on diluted loser in my book. i'm sure there are plenty of low quality insecure young girls who fall for that sh*t, but as far as "pulling" women worth my while, i promise you lose that battle, because clearly your soul is sh*t.

You already won that battle of "LOJ's soul is shit" ... I even admitted that once. I've been getting better though. I don't even try to get into a shit ton of women's pants anymore. I strongly prefer a good woman with good qualities and that entails finding that rare type that sees right through the "bad boy" type ... it's just a critical challenge finding that caliber of woman. You seem to have already been there several years ago. I guess I'm playing ketchup.

:(

Do you still use drugs on a recreational level? I only ask because I still do from time to do, but nothing like I used to. I'm attempting to get to ground zero, but easier said than done. Hey, at least I'm being honest I suppose?

[Legend of Josh]

Actually, I dont think your tactic works. Being an a hole all the time is not gonna attract any mature woman, maybe girls in their teens? Cause then is when they are rebellious by nature.

THe trick is not to be too devoted by also show you are a nice guy...thats what i think anyway...

Show me where I said "the key is being an asshole all the time" ... please. I said moderation is the key. I'm sick and tired of people making claims that clearly don't add up and attempt to make something out to be something it clearly isn't.

[ace23]

Dude really responded to a four-and-a-half-year post like it was nothing.

[Graviton]

Dude really responded to a four-and-a-half-year post like it was nothing.
Maybe it took him that long to gather his thoughts and respond accordingly. :oldlol:

[Legend of Josh]

ok im sick of this. i wanna hear from all the nice guys on ISH who have girls or at least have good success with women. Let's make a list

1. B-Low

Why would you be sick of something that's universally true. I'll just go ahead and put it out there. I dug up this (these) threads because I wanted to prove a personal point.

I've been dating this girl casually the past couple of months. I have been nice to her... trying to get past my asshole past shit, and treat a woman like a decent woman. You know, to hell with the treat a woman like shit and let her be all over you... hoping I could be a gentleman to her, let her see me for the nice guy within me, and lo and behold appears it was a major turnoff.

Once I realized this from excessive past experience, I switched it up, and lo and behold again, she was back on my shit again. I'm a bit conflicted, not perplexed, but conflicted because I want to find a girl that truly wants a nice guy. Why does that woman seem to be nonexistent? The world is a sick and twisted place.

:oldlol:

I hope I don't turn into a 57 year old man treating your typical 39 year old hot as hell MILF who still seeks the bad boy type and I give her exactly what she wants. I suppose being the 57 year old Christmas nice older gentlemen doesn't work like it used to.

My grandfather would greatly disappointed, but then again, so would my dick. Decisions, decisions.

[Bandito]

After reading the whole [Tip: Get a Girlfriend] thread, it somewhat rubbed me the wrong way, because the guy is just way off to say the least. According to his plan, it'll take you quite a while to finally get what you're looking for in a woman when it's not necessary at all, really.

Why not take the shortcut? I'm not talking about steroids! I'm talking about you pitiful dudes out there who think you have absolutely no shot at landing a decent looking woman. You guys just need to wake the hell up and redesign your whole outlook on women in general.

It's actually very simple. Let me show you the way.

First off, understand all women to a huge degree do not like the courtship crap. I don't care what the girl tells you or what you think her perception is, don't believe it. Woman hate to be overly complimented and smothered with knowing their interest of the opposite sex is constantly thinking of them and doing extravagant things for them. You have to know when to play your cards, but unfortunately this is something loser guys will never understand.

Secondly, understand all women love a challenge. There's nothing more intriguing to a woman than knowing or thinking there's something that she can't have. She will go out of her way to ensure she gets it... that's simply the nature of women. That's not just with relationships either. You tell a woman she can't be a CEO, and the next thing you know she's empowered to do whatever it takes to get on that level. You tell a woman she can't drive a big rig 18 wheeler, and the very next day she's hauling cargo for Wal-Mart. Never underestimate the power of telling or giving a woman the perception that she can't have something. More importantly, use this to your advantage!

This is even more true with relationships. Let us say for example woman A has a slight interest in man A, but she has an even heavier interest in man B. Now woman A gets to know each of these men. She comes to find out man A isn't all that interested in her, but that man B is overly interested in woman A. At this point she's no longer all that interested in man B, however man A is you guessed it! DING! DING! DING! A challenge to her now! Suddenly out of nowhere she's greatly interested in man A. This is susceptible for all women! There are no exceptions.

Lastly, realize that nice guys always finish last. This is just fact. Maybe 1 in 100 will get lucky and you see that freakishly normal looking extravagantly nice guy who lands the perfect 10 chick, but realistically this almost never happens. Nice guys just don't attract women. Women want a man that is in control, and not the other way around. Some women feel very comfortable and at ease when they're in control of the relationship, but just know that woman has almost no desire for you sexually or mentally and in the long haul she'll just end up either leaving you or having sexual relations on the side with the "bad boy" type.

Lastly + 1 - you have to just straight up be mean and jerkish with your woman from time to time. Don't force it, just let it be natural. Don't take no bullshit from your girl. If she's bitching or complaining about some straight up bullshit that has no business even being brought up, then you block that shit like Mutombo and wave the finger. Tell her that bullshit argument crap has no business in your relationship. If she has a valid point, that's different, but if she's just bitching just to bitch, let her know straight up you're not her punching bag and if she can't get that through her head, then get the **** out of there. I guarantee that shit will stop in a heartbeat. You have to let your woman know you're actually wearing the pants in the relationship. Again, not forcing it... because she will pick up on that and think you're trying too hard to "be the man" to impress her and it will backfire on you. Be careful about it, and most importantly, make it natural. Make it who you are! She will secretly respect you for it.

_____

So to sum all this up in three easy steps. Here's your shortcut to getting a decent looking girl without having to date fat chicks and work your way up the ladder.

1) Throw that courtship crap out the window. Stay away from flowers, opening doors, pulling chairs, etc. It might be cute at first, but very quickly it will just turn women off. Don't be a gentleman.

2) Always remember every woman wants a challenge; especially at first in a relationship. If a chick is on the rebound, that's a bit different, just beware once she's off that rebound she will then be much less interested in you because you've got her "back on her feet again" ... play it safe, always let any girl you're trying to date think you're not that interested in her, but that you are to a small degree.

3) Be the occasional jerk, naturally. Nice guys always finish last! Don't take no shit from a bitch. Women love confidence more than anything in a man, and woman want to be controlled despite how much they scream and shout about wanting to be equals. Deep inside, they want to be with a man that they feel will protect them at all times (this is simple genetics dating back to the caveman era), and that's not the nice guy type. Be a man, be in control of your woman.

You're welcome.You are completely right. I act like an asshole all the time and for some reason I get girls and I do exactly what you say not to do.

[Legend of Josh]

Dude really responded to a four-and-a-half-year post like it was nothing.

LOL... and we'll see you responding to a "phat beat" and "tight verse" thread you /created posted some 4 years ago, and here you still are, an unemployed aspiring rap artist creating beats on a website where millions of other aspiring rap artists are doing the same. Oh, but you're the exception, right? You're supposed to "make it" ... (like LD was supposed to "make it" in Hollywood), right?

I'd rather be digging up older threats and my issue is wanting to find a woman who prefers nice men over assholes, instead of being that lost souul aspiring rapper who "still" hasn't made it, and ironically even less close to being the next great rapper than he was four 4 years prior. LOL.

[HardwoodLegend]

All you have to do is 1. have money and 2. act like all you're interested in is money with blinders on to everything else.

No matter your personality, they will flock in that situation.

[Quizno]

LOJ is such a man-child lmao. you're such a little kid it's honestly hard to believe. which is weird because i'm pretty sure you're in like your mid-late 30s

[ace23]

LOL... and we'll see you responding to a "phat beat" and "tight verse" thread you /created posted some 4 years ago, and here you still are, an unemployed aspiring rap artist creating beats on a website where millions of other aspiring rap artists are doing the same. Oh, but you're the exception, right? You're supposed to "make it" ... (like LD was supposed to "make it" in Hollywood), right?

I'd rather be digging up older threats and my issue is wanting to find a woman who prefers nice men over assholes, instead of being that lost souul aspiring rapper who "still" hasn't made it, and ironically even less close to being the next great rapper than he was four 4 years prior. LOL.
:roll: :roll:

[ace23]

You are completely right. I act like an asshole all the time and for some reason I get girls and I do exactly what you say not to do.
This post makes 0 sense.

[Swaggin916]

Gosh man it's amazing all this picking up women shit... the best relationships you will ever have with women start the exact same way that they do any other friend: You enjoy each other's company and steps are taken from there.

If you just want poon... if you can act, you can easily get it. Or you can use your natural personality to attract specific types of females that will be attracted to it. When you talk to people, you can feel right away if you are guys are match almost immediately... whether it's male or female. You know pretty quick if you like the person or not (or just feel neutral). Just trust your instincts and make a move when you are ready.

[Jameerthefear]

whenever i act like an asshole girls just friendzone me...

[IamRAMBO24]

I disagree with some points and agree with some others. Acting like an a*shole doesn't always work. I've seen some guys act like total d*cks toward girls and they are not moved by that because the guy is ugly and unattractive. It doesn't ALWAYS work: there are also mature woman (despite age) who just doesn't want to play with this childish crap. Some girls are extremely classy and wouldn't put up with a guy who acts like a child. And some girls are smart enough to see through the bullsh*t, and then you have girls who are just plain out happy go lucky positive who will be unattracted to a total d*ck. Not to mention, the ones who are sick of the games and want to settle down; they're looking for the nice guys with money.

[IamRAMBO24]

I would also like to add ugly men like LOJ actually have more game than good looking men. They have to put more effort and strategy into it. This is the reason why the best dating advices are usually from a bunch of rejects no woman would want. If the guy is good looking and giving out advice, then it's prob bullsh*t since he's only using his looks to attract the girl and not anything that is a bit deeper than that.

Don't hate on LOJ, dude sounds like he put a lot of thought into this (for obvious reasons if you saw his pics - no offense).

[rufuspaul]

The best tried and true method is to get her number, wait a few days, then text a dick pic. You're welcome.

[rufuspaul]

Women can be manipulated so easily it's not even funny. Just for the record, I'm nice and never had a problem. Then again, I'm not the average looking dude. :rockon:


Didn't this guy reveal that he was gay? Figures gay dudes have no problem picking up chicks.

[Quizno]

Didn't this guy reveal that he was gay? Figures gay dudes have no problem picking up chicks.
:oldlol: i thought i remembered that too

for real though, you have to be really uncomfortable with yourself to have set rules on how to treat women. just be yourself or your relationship is not going to work. trying to act like something you're not is exhausting and you'll slip up. just be comfortable with the person you are and confidence will come naturally. none of it needs to be an act

[step_back]

The best tried and true method is to get her number, wait a few days, then text a dick pic. You're welcome.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

As I'm making my way through my mid twenties I've come to realize that I attract more women than I've ever done before. This has come from one thing. Confidence. I'm not as in shape as I once was when I was 18/19. I lean towards being a bit on the chubby side now when at 18/19 I had a ripped physique from all the sports I was playing. However in my late teens/early 20's I was too insecure about so many things. Like most of us are. I felt like I was always inadequate in some way.

I now no longer give a damm about strangers opinions and I now have quite high standards for women. It takes more than just a pretty face to impress me and I'll say that to the woman I'm talking to.

If you go round thinking you're not good enough then you aren't. If you go round thinking you're the best that's arrogance. Confidence is having good self efficacy and charisma. Some people are naturals, some people like me will gain it as they get older and some will never have it and either luck out or die alone.

[ILLsmak]

it's yaboy Smak, ISH alpha male expert.

I think the term nice is off base. I am sincere. Women are into me. Nice is a joke. The whole concept of nice is probably phony.

In fact, when people say NICE when referring to a man in a relationship, it means that they are letting the girl walk over them. I think some women will like that for awhile, but not forever.

Nice is coming to pick up your girl when her car broke down at midnight, even though you were asleep and had to get up early. You could look at her like you ****in bitch I was sleeping, freeze her out the whole way home, but as long as you do that, you are nice.

It's more about control. Girls generally don't want guys who have no control. A lot of girl tricks are tests, to see if you lose control. A girl wants you to lose a little bit of control, though. So it's best to lose a bit of control (pretend to be impressed), then pull it back like oh you thought you had me?

So, for instance, if you walk into a place and there are ten girls who are all attractive, you make eye contact with each of them so that they all know you are there. Then, you have your "sphere" or your "field of vision" and you give attention to the ones who pass through it. More if they pose. Like the bank slogan, when girls compete, you win.

It has nothing to do with being nice. Being good natured is always a positive, but being like o baby lemme go get you a drink is some shit that'll eventually fail because you've established a master servant relationship with her as the master. She will use that power to, then, cut you off.

I don't agree with controlling women, either. I think women who can be controlled are boring. Ideally, it would be two people who are both strong willed who come together from time to time and otherwise do their own thing.

-Smak

[chosen_one6]

1) Throw that courtship crap out the window. Stay away from flowers, opening doors, pulling chairs, etc. It might be cute at first, but very quickly it will just turn women off. Don't be a gentleman.

2) Always remember every woman wants a challenge; especially at first in a relationship. If a chick is on the rebound, that's a bit different, just beware once she's off that rebound she will then be much less interested in you because you've got her "back on her feet again" ... play it safe, always let any girl you're trying to date think you're not that interested in her, but that you are to a small degree.

3) Be the occasional jerk, naturally. Nice guys always finish last! Don't take no shit from a bitch. Women love confidence more than anything in a man, and woman want to be controlled despite how much they scream and shout about wanting to be equals. Deep inside, they want to be with a man that they feel will protect them at all times (this is simple genetics dating back to the caveman era), and that's not the nice guy type. Be a man, be in control of your woman.

You're welcome.

Bolded part is WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. Women LOVE chivalry. I'm not talking about buying her nice things or taking her to expensive places (unless you have the money to do such a thing.) But opening doors (particularly car doors, restaurants, etc.) is HUGE to women because most men don't do these things. I constantly hear women say chivalry is dead. Prove to them it's not.

I've slept with and dated many women, so I know this works. The other two points are spot on though.

EDIT: Only be chivalrous if you plan on being serious with a girl though. It works to get them into bed but oftentimes they'll think you're trying to be in a relationship instead of just a friends with benefits. Always be up front and honest with your intentions and women will respect you so much more for it.

[Swaggin916]

Of course this all different if you actually like the girl. I had relations with about 5 women in the past year and 2 I liked, 1 I really just wanted sex that night, and the other 2 I didn't care. the two girls I genuinely liked, I was kinda heartbroken when it didn't work out. It has led to me being very careful about putting that out there. I think all of that don't care about no bitch shit is just so guys don't get hurt... doesn't have to do with getting girls at all. It's just a byproduct of putting yourself out there before, getting hurt... and it's the brain's natural reaction to getting hurt. You touch a hot stove once, you won't consciously touch that shit again. Same applies to emotional stuff. We like to think nothing can hurt us, but we are quite fragile.

[sundizz]

Lol. All this nonsense. You can simp all you want and act however you want. Buy your girl flowers, walk her to her spot, put down your jacket for her in the rain...do it all if you like. I cook for my girl, I do a lot of non-manly stuff. I'm sometimes emotional etc.

However, and this is a big however, you can do all this and wtv non alpha stuff you want as long as your PIPE GAME IS ON POINT. If you are a man when doing sexual stuff then it doesn't matter that much how you act the rest of the time. I feel like people that suck at laying pipe are the ones that need to do all this nonsense to feel confident with women.

When a girl is with me, she knows who is wearing the pants purely by what I do to her in the bedroom. You give it to them real good and everything else falls into place.