View Full Version : Allen Iverson out for rest of season
iTruWarrior
04-03-2009, 05:00 PM
Detroit Pistons President of Basketball Operations Joe Dumars announced today that guard Allen Iverson will miss the remainder of the season. The all-star guard missed 16 games between February 27 and March 28 after exiting a game at New Orleans with a sore back on February 25.
http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=4044
big baller
04-03-2009, 05:01 PM
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
D-Rose
04-03-2009, 05:01 PM
Wow...they do seem to play better without him...but what about using him in the playoffs?
Da Ballahollic
04-03-2009, 05:02 PM
Wow..
Wonder where he will be next year..
MeloMike
04-03-2009, 05:02 PM
Safe to say the AI-Detroit experiment didn't work out...I really feel bad for AI.
Cabbage
04-03-2009, 05:03 PM
The pistons will win a playoff series now without the distractions. Don't worry Detroit fans, you know he wont be back next season. Let his cancer spread in new york or OKC.
bagelred
04-03-2009, 05:04 PM
ESPN Breaking News - Allen Iverson will sit out the rest of the season to rest his injured pride.
MIDDAY CORRECTION: Allen Iverson will sit out the rest of the season to rest his injured back.
As long as they get the story right.
craiye
04-03-2009, 05:04 PM
:roll:
Now you have to wonder if the Celts will drop a few games to just to force Orlando into matching up with the Pistons in the first round.
bdreason
04-03-2009, 05:04 PM
Mutual agreement I'm sure.
Pistons don't want the drama, and AI doesn't want to ride the bench.
oh the horror
04-03-2009, 05:04 PM
I chalk it up to this:
They dont want him there, and he doesnt want to be there, and he probably does have a bad back, that with the situation, he COULD probably play, but with them not wanting him , and him not liking the situation, both parties decided he can sit his ass out, and rest his back.
Bad situation for both parties, and i agree, he does have an attitude problem.
PoGoMon
04-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Wow...they do seem to play better without him...but what about using him in the playoffs?
Now - he'll be sure to be healthy for next year!
Oh, and nobody can blame him if the Pistons proceed to flush themselves down the john.:eek:
pete's montreux
04-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Absolutely not breaking news.
#1SportsFan86
04-03-2009, 05:05 PM
injured back or brused ego?...I hope Iverson is really hurt because if he's not then I'm losing respect for him almost everybody now....I bet he doesn't even show up on the sideline to root for his team either.
iTruWarrior
04-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Well this gives more of a chance to Will The Thrill Bynum now that he knows he has to play to replace Iverson.
Pistons can still take out the Magic, They can't take out the Celtics or the Cavs.
oh the horror
04-03-2009, 05:06 PM
LOL@ Some of you thinking Detroit is going to make this HISTORIC run now that AI is out. As if hes the ENTIRE reason they are having a poor season.
Detroit is going out the first round folks. You can put money on that one.
That team is going to be in rebuilding mode during the offseason. Yes they play well, but they arent that great of a team.
Riker
04-03-2009, 05:08 PM
Safe to say the AI-Detroit experiment didn't work out...I really feel bad for AI.
Me too.
iTruWarrior
04-03-2009, 05:09 PM
LOL@ Some of you thinking Detroit is going to make this HISTORIC run now that AI is out. As if hes the ENTIRE reason they are having a poor season.
Detroit is going out the first round folks. You can put money on that one.
That team is going to be in rebuilding mode during the offseason. Yes they play well, but they arent that great of a team.
If they play the Magic, they should advance to the 2nd round. They already took out the Magic without Iverson, and if they get a healthy lineup there is no way the Magic can matchup with the Pistons.
ppierce34
04-03-2009, 05:10 PM
Mutual agreement. Iverson doesn't want to play under 20 minutes a game(this is more the reason than starting/coming off the bench) and Pistons don't want to play him more.
1~Gibson~1
04-03-2009, 05:12 PM
:violin:
It's sad to look at the Pistons of before and compare them to the Pistons of now.
Positive
04-03-2009, 05:20 PM
If they play the Magic, they should advance to the 2nd round. They already took out the Magic without Iverson, and if they get a healthy lineup there is no way the Magic can matchup with the Pistons.
:oldlol: What? I'm pretty sure that the Magic would win in like 4 or 5 games, the Pistons are not getting any younger and it really seems that they miss the floor presence of Billups.
Showtime
04-03-2009, 05:21 PM
Injury my ass.
iTruWarrior
04-03-2009, 05:22 PM
:oldlol: What? I'm pretty sure that the Magic would win in like 4 or 5 games, the Pistons are not getting any younger and it really seems that they miss the floor presence of Billups.
Interesting, because the Pistons have won 3 of 3 against the Magic this season right?
Oh wait 1 out of 4 is more likely than 3 out of 4 right? :hammerhead:
MK2V1GP
04-03-2009, 05:24 PM
LOL@ Some of you thinking Detroit is going to make this HISTORIC run now that AI is out. As if hes the ENTIRE reason they are having a poor season.
Detroit is going out the first round folks. You can put money on that one.
That team is going to be in rebuilding mode during the offseason. Yes they play well, but they arent that great of a team.
He may not be the ENTIRE reason, but he is the definite BIGGEST reason. Look at this simple fact: They play better and have a better record w/o him than they do with him.
He's a cancer. His style doesnt fit for an actual TEAM. He has to have the ball all the time and shoot 25+ times to get his and he's always been like that...and selfish.
H2whoa
04-03-2009, 05:25 PM
Congratulations Detroit, you just scared off one of the best players ever to play in the NBA.
Wait til playoffs, your loss.
Sonic R
04-03-2009, 05:26 PM
:ohwell:
Yup its true
ppierce34
04-03-2009, 05:26 PM
:oldlol: What? I'm pretty sure that the Magic would win in like 4 or 5 games, the Pistons are not getting any younger and it really seems that they miss the floor presence of Billups.
They could be a more effective team if they adjusted their style on offense. Even subtracting Iverson, they don't have Billups anymore, yet they run an offense that is structured for a point guard like him. Stuckey isn't a true PG, but he's capable of handling the duties, but his style is based more around his quickness and ability to penetrate. You have to adjust to what you have.
This season was just a mess for that team. The Iverson situation just worked out terribly, they brought him in for cap space and I think all parties knew that which made the situation difficult. Compound that with taking out the guy that ran the offense and replacing him with a young guard with an entirely different style and they have coach he seems to have no clue what he is doing.
Cabbage
04-03-2009, 05:26 PM
You people who thought he was gonna be resigned....i lol at your general direction. He went there for his expiring contract, THATS IT!:rolleyes:
LA_Showtime
04-03-2009, 05:27 PM
Iverson might as well retire now. Even if he's truly injured, people aren't going to believe it. It doesn't help he was *****ing to the media the other day. I wonder how much this will hurt his legacy..?
DLeagueWannabe
04-03-2009, 05:28 PM
Some of you guys are hilarious...
He's Allen Iverson, he can sit out if he wants to, he's earned this league so much money over his career. He may be a Primadonna, yeah, but this is professional sports. Who isn't?
LA_Showtime
04-03-2009, 05:29 PM
Some of you guys are hilarious...
He's Allen Iverson, he can sit out if he wants to, he's earned this league so much money over his career. He may be a Primadonna, yeah, but this is professional sports. Who isn't?
What do you mean he can sit out if he wants to. He's being paid a lot of ****ing money and he should play if he's not injured. Talk about horrible timing, even if he is truly injured, no one will believe it.
MK2V1GP
04-03-2009, 05:37 PM
Some of you guys are hilarious...
He's Allen Iverson, he can sit out if he wants to, he's earned this league so much money over his career. He may be a Primadonna, yeah, but this is professional sports. Who isn't?
One of the worst posts ever regarding the NBA. No player is bigger than a team, and especially no player is bigger than the league or basketball. What a joke. AI is a cancer and he is SELFISH. His pride and ego is way too big for anyone, let alone a player who's on his fairwell tour soon.
Mateo
04-03-2009, 05:53 PM
Mutual agreement I'm sure.
Pistons don't want the drama, and AI doesn't want to ride the bench.
They are just hoping to make the playoffs at this point, so his whining wasn't helping anything.
flintstone
04-03-2009, 06:07 PM
Probably for the best...his crying every time he plays, is nothing but a distraction to the rest of the team anyway.
I wish him luck somewhere else :cheers:
hoopaddict08
04-03-2009, 06:12 PM
Congratulations Detroit, you just scared off one of the best players ever to play in the NBA.
Wait til playoffs, your loss.
Scared off? What are we supposed to do? Let him play the point guard position, a position he has already complained about playing? Curry made a decision that was best for Iverson and the Pistons. Hamilton plays better with the starting lineup and Iverson could be Iverson coming off the bench. I guarentee he would have seen more time coming into the playoffs.You just can't please Allen Iverson, because he is Allen Iverson. He isn't a young star anymore, people are going to quickly forget him.
LA_Showtime
04-03-2009, 06:16 PM
It's too bad... now that I've had time to think about it I think this will really hurt his chances of signing on with a contender this summer. The fact that Dumars said he was done for the year means that part of this has to be Iverson's displeasure over his role with the team. If he was actually injured wouldn't they have said that he'll miss 2-3 weeks and go from there?
BALLin01
04-03-2009, 06:17 PM
I knew it. I need a new favorite player.
sportsfan76
04-03-2009, 06:17 PM
detroit will lose 6 of their last 7 games. book it
H2whoa
04-03-2009, 06:28 PM
Scared off? What are we supposed to do? Let him play the point guard position, a position he has already complained about playing? Curry made a decision that was best for Iverson and the Pistons. Hamilton plays better with the starting lineup and Iverson could be Iverson coming off the bench. I guarentee he would have seen more time coming into the playoffs.You just can't please Allen Iverson, because he is Allen Iverson. He isn't a young star anymore, people are going to quickly forget him.
Allen Iverson couldn't be Allen Iverson coming off the bench because they wanted Will Bynum to be Will Bynum
Toizumi
04-03-2009, 06:44 PM
2 nights ago he was claiming he wanted to play complaing about only playing 17 minutes of the bench and now he's out for the season due to injury... riiiightt.... this whole thing makes me sad though.. AI deserves to be in a better situation and this sucks for detroit fans.
KempSonics
04-03-2009, 06:51 PM
What a loser.
Have fun collecting your $30 Million this year punk.
DLeagueWannabe
04-03-2009, 07:01 PM
One of the worst posts ever regarding the NBA. No player is bigger than a team, and especially no player is bigger than the league or basketball. What a joke. AI is a cancer and he is SELFISH. His pride and ego is way too big for anyone, let alone a player who's on his fairwell tour soon.
My post is the truth...
These guys get paid millions to play BASKETBALL. You think the team matters to them? Be real, the fact that we're all sitting here wasting our days on the internet discussing what these guys do for a living shows how trivial all this really is. If he doesn't feel like he's be utilized correctly let him sit. He's a grown man, he can decide what he wants to do with his life. If it cost his salary in the long run, so be it. I'm sure he's already aware of that. The league gave these guys power by paying them tens of millions of dollars. If they don't want divas, don't pay and treat these guys like they're Mariah Carey or Madonna.
kumquat
04-03-2009, 07:02 PM
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Allstar24
04-03-2009, 07:12 PM
The AI drama continues. I've lost so much respect for him. He used to be one of my favorite players of all time, up till last season. This is just sad.
thatoneblackguy
04-03-2009, 07:15 PM
Should have stayed in Philly. :confusedshrug:
kumquat
04-03-2009, 07:16 PM
Should have stayed in Philly. :confusedshrug:
They wanted to get rid of him.
tontoz
04-03-2009, 07:25 PM
You people who thought he was gonna be resigned....i lol at your general direction. He went there for his expiring contract, THATS IT!:rolleyes:
Exactly. Dumars has enough sense to know better than to resign iverson. He knew the team he had wasn't good enough to beat Boston or the Cavs to he decided to rebuild using Iverson's expirer.
Props to Dumars for putting iverson in his place. I didn't like the Pistons when Dumars was playing there but i always like Dumars. He could flat out play and didn't showboat or mouth off in the press. He was a true pro and he gave Jordan fits.
I am going to laugh when he renounces Iverson's Bird Rights and lets him try to find a deal on his own.
kobesabi
04-03-2009, 07:30 PM
Wow..
Wonder where he will be next year..
It would be funny if he joined the Lakers to win that eluded title.
G-train
04-03-2009, 07:34 PM
Great for the Pistons.
Noob Saibot
04-03-2009, 07:35 PM
from former MVP, scoring champ, to a walk out that hates being a benchwarmer. his approach to the game is a total opposite of someone like a Robert Horry or Manu Ginobili who don't mind coming off the bench and make an immense impact to the game. It's sad, and AI was one of my favorite players too.
Human Error
04-03-2009, 07:39 PM
Iverson fans are getting desperate and they're just too funny. Why is it so hard to face the truth when you're supposed to regress with age? He's not an elite player anymore, speaking of undersized 2s, Jason Terry and Ben Gordon are way better than Iverson, and even Randy Foye is better than Iverson as of now. He's a chucker who shoots very low percentage from the field, who doesn't defend, who doesn't distribute the ball, his days as a starter on a playoff team are over.
detsportsfan3
04-03-2009, 07:40 PM
Wow, Dumars has really done nothing good in the last 5 years other than the sheed trade. What did he think was going to happen? He traded chauncey to move stuckey to starter, so he expected rip or AI to come off the bench? Right... Both sides feel hate torwards the other. AI killed the Pistons and the Pistons killed AI. Bottom line is Pistons fans took things for granted. 6 straight conference finals appearances wasn't good enough. So Joe D tried to fix the team and this happens, if it aint broke... Also, Curry is a terrible coach who was given too much responsible too early. Which also makes Joe D bad for not firing him.
kobesabi
04-03-2009, 07:48 PM
Now a day, you cannot win with just 1 team. Every winning team has almost like 2 teams in it. Starters and bench squad. If starters make lead but bench squad keeps on blowing it up, you cannot win anything in that sense. Everybody needs both teams to play well. Even Kobe, Pau, and Lamar all get their chance of responsibility in leading the "bench team". I don't see what's AI fuss about playing it first or later with the bench. You cannot win with just starter team.
tontoz
04-03-2009, 07:54 PM
Wow, Dumars has really done nothing good in the last 5 years other than the sheed trade.
yeah drafting guys like Stuckey and Maxiel were terrible moves. Do you think he should have resigned Ben Wallet?
All they could really do was improve their bench because their starters were getting to the conference finals every year.
What did he think was going to happen?
He thought Iverson's contract would expire at the end of the season, giving them a lot of cap space. That is all.
Sonic R
04-03-2009, 08:02 PM
Wow, Dumars has really done nothing good in the last 5 years other than the sheed trade. What did he think was going to happen? He traded chauncey to move stuckey to starter, so he expected rip or AI to come off the bench? Right... Both sides feel hate torwards the other. AI killed the Pistons and the Pistons killed AI. Bottom line is Pistons fans took things for granted. 6 straight conference finals appearances wasn't good enough. So Joe D tried to fix the team and this happens, if it aint broke... Also, Curry is a terrible coach who was given too much responsible too early. Which also makes Joe D bad for not firing him.
You do realize that Joe Dumars had been a marionette for Bill Davidson, right…
Joe Dumars has made all transactions on this team in relation to the salary cap. The Pistons are one of only like 3 teams that have never paid luxury tax. Bill Davidson has been successful because he has been frugal with money… the Pistons, Guardian Glass, et cetera…
The philosophy is that loosing in three straight ECFs was not enough for acclaim. Acclaim is realized through championships. No one gives a single solitary **** about second place in this league. Is it aiming high? Sure. But what do we play this game for? What is it we chase in the league? The championship. People laugh at division titles and Conference championships. So the persona is to go for the gold… the gold ball.
We had been spoiled with these 50 win seasons, central division championships, six straight ECF appearances… but in the end, no one cared…
AznTacoLover
04-03-2009, 08:04 PM
well let's see where AI is next season.
Riker
04-03-2009, 08:15 PM
well let's see where AI is next season.
They're mentioning his possible retirement. That would be disgraceful. :rant
KempSonics
04-03-2009, 09:23 PM
SonicR wrote...
You do realize that Joe Dumars had been a marionette for Bill Davidson, right…
Joe Dumars has made all transactions on this team in relation to the salary cap. The Pistons are one of only like 3 teams that have never paid luxury tax. Bill Davidson has been successful because he has been frugal with money… the Pistons, Guardian Glass, et cetera…
The philosophy is that loosing in three straight ECFs was not enough for acclaim. Acclaim is realized through championships. No one gives a single solitary **** about second place in this league. Is it aiming high? Sure. But what do we play this game for? What is it we chase in the league? The championship. People laugh at division titles and Conference championships. So the persona is to go for the gold… the gold ball.
We had been spoiled with these 50 win seasons, central division championships, six straight ECF appearances… but in the end, no one cared…
I laugh every time you post this stuff. Davidson was cheap? LMAO. He funded the Palace HIMSELF. The only owner to ever do that in all of sports. He was the first owner to get his team their own private jet. He was a major philanthropist who donated Hundreds of Millions of Dollars. The Pistons never paid the luxury tax(or at least not that much) because they were smart.
Really you look like a fool for calling the organization cheap. That's the FARTHEST thing from the truth.
hawkfan
04-03-2009, 10:52 PM
In the long term, this is best for the Pistons, as they are in rebuilding mode, and this means more minutes and touches for younger players.
Iverson would fit in well with Charlotte as a starter.
I don't see any other team that would want him as a starter. Plenty of teams would want him as a reserve.
Sonic R
04-03-2009, 10:53 PM
SonicR wrote...
You do realize that Joe Dumars had been a marionette for Bill Davidson, right…
Joe Dumars has made all transactions on this team in relation to the salary cap. The Pistons are one of only like 3 teams that have never paid luxury tax. Bill Davidson has been successful because he has been frugal with money… the Pistons, Guardian Glass, et cetera…
The philosophy is that loosing in three straight ECFs was not enough for acclaim. Acclaim is realized through championships. No one gives a single solitary **** about second place in this league. Is it aiming high? Sure. But what do we play this game for? What is it we chase in the league? The championship. People laugh at division titles and Conference championships. So the persona is to go for the gold… the gold ball.
We had been spoiled with these 50 win seasons, central division championships, six straight ECF appearances… but in the end, no one cared…
I laugh every time you post this stuff. Davidson was cheap? LMAO. He funded the Palace HIMSELF. The only owner to ever do that in all of sports. He was the first owner to get his team their own private jet. He was a major philanthropist who donated Hundreds of Millions of Dollars. The Pistons never paid the luxury tax(or at least not that much) because they were smart.
Really you look like a fool for calling the organization cheap. That's the FARTHEST thing from the truth.
Did I say he was "cheap"?
What I said was that he was frugal with money. Bill Davidson doesn't waste money. He takes care of money, thus how he had been able to build his own revolutionary arena, buy his team a plane, et cetera...
What people neglect to see in all his conscious spending ways, is that he had three championship teams (really 4) all the while not wasting money to field such a team.
lilojmayo
04-03-2009, 10:53 PM
Pistons Fans
do you realize you pretty much traded the 2004 MVP for nothing now that AI isn't going to play.
You kind of gave him away
Now the Nuggets have the 2nd seed in the West.
Mr_Basketball#1
04-03-2009, 10:59 PM
Pistons Fans
do you realize you pretty much traded the 2004 MVP for nothing now that AI isn't going to play.
You kind of gave him away
Now the Nuggets have the 2nd seed in the West.
Cap space my friend, it was all about the cap space.
Interminator
04-03-2009, 11:02 PM
Pistons Fans
do you realize you pretty much traded the 2004 MVP for nothing now that AI isn't going to play.
You kind of gave him away
Now the Nuggets have the 2nd seed in the West.
Billups for Iverson.
Iverson expires.
Pistons sign Boozer.
Sounds like a well rounded move.
Mrofir
04-04-2009, 12:35 AM
Pistons will lose 4-1 in the first round. They are not a good team. They won't magically transform into the 2001 Pistons (apologies if I got the year wrong). It's interesting how Dumars is considered a genius and Kerr is an idiot.. which he is.. but lets face it, they (pistons) made some weird moves. They're cooked, but I'll be rooting for them anyway.
By the way, from a business perspective, it's kind of ridiculous to say that 6 straight ecf appearances are not worth anything. Winning championships is great and should always be the goal, but only 1 team can win.. the idea that the others are all failures is just sports hyperbole.
Luigi
04-04-2009, 12:44 AM
Cap space my friend, it was all about the cap space.
Plus taking a low risk, high reward opportunity: Iverson had a chance at providing go to scoring they needed.
Here's to Iverson's return to Philli! :cheers:
BigTicket
04-04-2009, 02:33 AM
Damnit, I can't stand Iverson myself, but I bought tickets to a damn Knicks-Pistons game just because my younger brother is an AI fan and has never been to an NBA game. Now I'll actually have to watch the damn Knicks play the Pistons, and I won't even have the joy of showing my brother his favorite player.
Makes me like Iverson even less. Wouldnt want the man coming of the bench in Cleveland if he damn well paid us for the priviledge.
horrible move. pistons are in one giant cluster****
the.powerhouse
04-04-2009, 12:44 PM
There's only one place for AI next season, Phoenix:
http://www.sportgorilla.com/topics.php?s=3&sn=Basketball&topic_id=359
Rekindled
04-04-2009, 01:17 PM
There's only one place for AI next season, Phoenix:
http://www.sportgorilla.com/topics.php?s=3&sn=Basketball&topic_id=359
**** no. Barbosa and richardson >>> iverson.
Iverson to the knicks
markymark
04-07-2009, 07:39 AM
What do you mean he can sit out if he wants to. He's being paid a lot of ****ing money and he should play if he's not injured. Talk about horrible timing, even if he is truly injured, no one will believe it.
They weren't even willing to give him a huge role in that lineup. If you were a former MVP and a future HOFer, would you play for a team like that?
hawkfan
04-07-2009, 07:49 AM
AI to Charlotte on a one year, $7 million deal.
LA_Showtime
04-07-2009, 08:14 AM
They weren't even willing to give him a huge role in that lineup. If you were a former MVP and a future HOFer, would you play for a team like that?
When Iverson makes comments like, "I'll do whatever the team wants" then I think he should do it. Go look up Iverson's press conference introducing AI to the Pistons.
markymark
04-07-2009, 10:50 AM
When Iverson makes comments like, "I'll do whatever the team wants" then I think he should do it. Go look up Iverson's press conference introducing AI to the Pistons.
In that press con, I bet he had absolutely no idea that he would be playing second fiddle to Stuckey. I bet he had absolutely no idea that Will Bynum would start over him. I bet he didn't know Rip would be b1tching over deferring to him. I bet he didn't know Rip, Tay and Stuckey would freeze him out on the court (seriously, they were treating him like a f*ckin spot up shooter).
It's one thing to defer to your teammates, and AI did that excellently (maybe too much) the whole season. It's another thing to be outright disrespected despite your efforts to blend in.
ruslan
04-07-2009, 01:45 PM
In that press con, I bet he had absolutely no idea that he would be playing second fiddle to Stuckey. I bet he had absolutely no idea that Will Bynum would start over him. I bet he didn't know Rip would be b1tching over deferring to him. I bet he didn't know Rip, Tay and Stuckey would freeze him out on the court (seriously, they were treating him like a f*ckin spot up shooter).
It's one thing to defer to your teammates, and AI did that excellently (maybe too much) the whole season. It's another thing to be outright disrespected despite your efforts to blend in.
propped
boozehound
04-07-2009, 01:50 PM
In that press con, I bet he had absolutely no idea that he would be playing second fiddle to Stuckey. I bet he had absolutely no idea that Will Bynum would start over him. I bet he didn't know Rip would be b1tching over deferring to him. I bet he didn't know Rip, Tay and Stuckey would freeze him out on the court (seriously, they were treating him like a f*ckin spot up shooter).
It's one thing to defer to your teammates, and AI did that excellently (maybe too much) the whole season. It's another thing to be outright disrespected despite your efforts to blend in.
what a terrible post. AI defered to no one, took more bad shots than the rest of the team (maybe minus sheed) combined and allowed his defensive assignment to get to the basket at will. He was shut down because he brings nothing to this team except a terrible attitude and a hurt butt.
LA_Showtime
04-07-2009, 11:19 PM
Rick Kamla is on Iverson's nuts right now. Jesus Christ.
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