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giantgonzolez
04-05-2009, 11:25 PM
From my decades worth of watching the NBA, these are the top 5.

5. Karl Malone, elbows, cheapshots and allaround dirty play(just ask Isiah Thomas).

4. Bill Cartwright: one of the dirtiest bigmen who used dirty plays to gain and advantage(just ask Olajuwon).

3. John Stockton, used his "stock broker" looks to fool everyone into thinking he was a nice guy but would do whatever it took to get an unfair advantage including allegedly hitting opposing players in the groin.

2. Matt Harpring: very dirty player that I've seen go after people's knees and almost once broke Yao Ming's back with an extremely dirty play.

1. Shaq: Simply the DIRTIEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME.
The biggest bully the NBA's ever seen. Elbows defenders in the face, rams his shoulders into the defender, takes sucker punches at some of whom have their backs turned, commits flagrant 2 fouls on dunkers(even almost ENDED MJ and Vince Carter's careers after they tried to dunk on him).
During dunking on defenders he intentionally kicks them in the groin, knees them in the head, and elbows them after he lands, thows a quick forearm shiver on a guy 1/3rd his size(AK47), slapping Ostertag just because he shut Shaq down in the playoffs the previous year, etc.
Shaq NEVER EVER tries this kind of stuff on guys like Tractor Trailer or Anthony Mason whey they were guarding him, he's a CLASSIC coward and bully. I'd just love to see Mark Henry, Paul Wight or Dalip Singh give Shaq a taste of his own medicine.
Here are just a few of the tens of thousands of dirty plays Shaq has committed in his career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DobXKM8CfuU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwJoI0YEGI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3FXLyNFew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A60KLjIFksA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaKLmrmAg84&feature=PlayList&p=F4E7A709804B5F0D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI85iVU3xkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3LxYJKazAM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07DKg1Ke1kbql/340x.jpg

1987_Lakers
04-05-2009, 11:25 PM
Bill Laimbeer

OneMoreSucka
04-05-2009, 11:27 PM
Clearly this thread has nothing to do with the dirtiest players in the NBA, you just wanted to tell us how much you hate shaq. Grow some balls and just make a ****ty thread dedicated directly to that. Idiot.

iTruWarrior
04-05-2009, 11:27 PM
You aren't biased.. :rolleyes:

Karl Malone and Bill Lambieer have my vote. I'll give the slight edge to Malone since he's given more players stitches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nIHCR--Bg

http://www.younglee.net/pics/random/KarlMalOWNED.jpg

mrpibb
04-05-2009, 11:27 PM
Yeah, the same Isaiah Thomas who said he got stitches for a scrape?:oldlol:

I mean Karl Malone does do that stuff, but Isaiah Thomas is a....LIAR


Also, absolutely no bias that you have 3 Jazz players in there...mhm.

Matt Harpring...2? He isn't even dirty, he just plays tough. John Stockton and Karl Malone I can live with but that's just bull****, especially if he's higher than Karl.

nbastatus
04-05-2009, 11:28 PM
Robert Horry...

OldSchoolBBall
04-05-2009, 11:28 PM
Of the players I've seen:

1. Laimbeer
2. Rodman
3. Mahorn
4. Oakley
5. Jeff Ruland
6. K. Malone

Other guys (Stockton, Bowen) have been shady too, but not in the way some of these guys were.

PistolPete
04-05-2009, 11:29 PM
Wow that's a weird list. Cartwright? Harpring?

How about Bruce Bowen, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, Robert Horry, Charles Barkley, Raja Bell?

Sanity
04-05-2009, 11:31 PM
Wow this isn't agenda driven. Lol

I'll go with Darko Milicic cause he'll **** your daughter......Hard

iTruWarrior
04-05-2009, 11:31 PM
http://www.chunkypop.com/m_pictures/Malowned.jpg
http://fourthandfifty.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/robert-horry-nut-shot.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NliQl_vuj1Q/SBXXZhItbWI/AAAAAAAAAvw/uLCA354mtr8/s400/malonekickhakeem.jpg

west
04-05-2009, 11:32 PM
Robert Horry...
Why???:confusedshrug:

BALLin01
04-05-2009, 11:32 PM
give it up... we all know u hate shaq

and how bout the names Lambieer?Bowen?Rodman? your threads are useless and are made to bash shaq

mrpibb
04-05-2009, 11:32 PM
http://www.chunkypop.com/m_pictures/Malowned.jpg
http://fourthandfifty.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/robert-horry-nut-shot.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NliQl_vuj1Q/SBXXZhItbWI/AAAAAAAAAvw/uLCA354mtr8/s400/malonekickhakeem.jpg


No Houston Rockets bias here.

nbastatus
04-05-2009, 11:32 PM
http://www.chunkypop.com/m_pictures/Malowned.jpg
http://fourthandfifty.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/robert-horry-nut-shot.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NliQl_vuj1Q/SBXXZhItbWI/AAAAAAAAAvw/uLCA354mtr8/s400/malonekickhakeem.jpg
that's more like homo:D

Lone Laker
04-05-2009, 11:33 PM
I loved the time Karl Malone knocked out some of Steve Nash's teeth. Malone was just plain mean.

ruslan
04-05-2009, 11:33 PM
shaq >>>> hakeem

hoopaddict08
04-05-2009, 11:33 PM
The smelliest has to be Lebron James.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6CWVkPhzRw

White Chocolate
04-05-2009, 11:34 PM
How anyone can have a top 5 list without Laimbeer or Bowen is beyond me. With Shaq, a lot of it is because of his size. He's definitely a dirty player, but some of it is because he's so much bigger than everyone else.

PistolPete
04-05-2009, 11:37 PM
Honorable mention is J.R. Reid for clearly elbowing A.C. Green square in the jaw some years ago leaving A.C. picking up his chiclets from the floor.

PistolPete
04-05-2009, 11:39 PM
Why???:confusedshrug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYC95MziMJk

shortlunatic
04-05-2009, 11:42 PM
Rodman

GiveItToBurrito
04-05-2009, 11:43 PM
Kobe.

/thread.

i keed, i keed jajajajaja

nbastatus
04-05-2009, 11:43 PM
Why???:confusedshrug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs9Fkf8gmhM

giantgonzolez
04-05-2009, 11:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYC95MziMJk

I was a fan of Horry, but I do have to admit that he is a dirty player.
He actually started a bench clearing brawl between the Rockets and Sonics in the 1993 NBA playoffs because of a dirty flagrant 2 foul.

imlmf
04-05-2009, 11:59 PM
From my decades worth of watching the NBA, these are the top 5.

5. Karl Malone, elbows, cheapshots and allaround dirty play(just ask Isiah Thomas).

4. Bill Cartwright: one of the dirtiest bigmen who used dirty plays to gain and advantage(just ask Olajuwon).

3. John Stockton, used his "stock broker" looks to fool everyone into thinking he was a nice guy but would do whatever it took to get an unfair advantage including allegedly hitting opposing players in the groin.

2. Matt Harpring: very dirty player that I've seen go after people's knees and almost once broke Yao Ming's back with an extremely dirty play.

1. Shaq: Simply the DIRTIEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME.
The biggest bully the NBA's ever seen. Elbows defenders in the face, rams his shoulders into the defender, takes sucker punches at some of whom have their backs turned, commits flagrant 2 fouls on dunkers(even almost ENDED MJ and Vince Carter's careers after they tried to dunk on him).
During dunking on defenders he intentionally kicks them in the groin, knees them in the head, and elbows them after he lands, thows a quick forearm shiver on a guy 1/3rd his size(AK47), slapping Ostertag just because he shut Shaq down in the playoffs the previous year, etc.
Shaq NEVER EVER tries this kind of stuff on guys like Tractor Trailer or Anthony Mason whey they were guarding him, he's a CLASSIC coward and bully. I'd just love to see Mark Henry, Paul Wight or Dalip Singh give Shaq a taste of his own medicine.
Here are just a few of the tens of thousands of dirty plays Shaq has committed in his career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DobXKM8CfuU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwJoI0YEGI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3FXLyNFew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A60KLjIFksA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaKLmrmAg84&feature=PlayList&p=F4E7A709804B5F0D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI85iVU3xkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3LxYJKazAM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07DKg1Ke1kbql/340x.jpg




no Bruce Bowen????????????? are you a spurs fan??????????? :wtf: :wtf:

15yearmagicfan
04-06-2009, 01:01 AM
Wow this isn't agenda driven. Lol

I'll go with Darko Milicic cause he'll **** your daughter......Hard


hahahahaha, good call

15yearmagicfan
04-06-2009, 01:08 AM
I think rodman was pretty dirty

OldSchoolBBall
04-06-2009, 01:17 AM
I think rodman was pretty dirty

I have a Bulls game on tape from 1997 where Rodman literally knees Joe Wolf in the nuts and follows up with an elbow across the jaw. It was after a rebound that Wolf had grabbed and outletted it as Rodman was trying to jam the pass. He got the pass away with Rodman closely guarding him, and Rodman clearly knees him in the groin and gives a Van Damme-like elbow right across Wolf's chin/jaw. But the refs had already started going downcourt, plus Rodman semi-disguised the elbow as part of his turn to go back downcourt, so it was hard to see. But two different slow-mo replays clearly confirmed this. Wolf went down and got into it with Rodman, too. One of the wildest plays I've ever seen. Sh*t was like a Street Fighter 1-2 combo in a basketball game. :oldlol: Wish I could upload VHS.

15yearmagicfan
04-06-2009, 01:27 AM
I have a Bulls game on tape from 1997 where Rodman literally knees Joe Wolf in the nuts and follows up with an elbow across the jaw. It was after a rebound that Wolf had grabbed and outletted it as Rodman was trying to jam the pass. He got the pass away with Rodman closely guarding him, and Rodman clearly knees him in the groin and gives a Van Damme-like elbow right across Wolf's chin/jaw. But the refs had already started going downcourt, plus Rodman semi-disguised the elbow as part of his turn to go back downcourt, so it was hard to see. But two different slow-mo replays clearly confirmed this. Wolf went down and got into it with Rodman, too. One of the wildest plays I've ever seen. Sh*t was like a Street Fighter 1-2 combo in a basketball game. :oldlol: Wish I could upload VHS.

Joe Wolff! Haven't heard that name in a long time, but he played for the magic for a season or two. Good shooter.

momo
04-06-2009, 01:44 AM
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/laimbeer.gif
Malone and Stockton get dirtys duo, no problem

I hate to say it but KAJ did some dirtyish stuff. Love cap tho :P

Some guys need honorable mention.
Xavier Mcdaniel... Rick Mahorn... Anthony Mason... Spiderman.

ScolaFan
04-06-2009, 02:19 AM
Bill Laimbeer

and Karl Malone.

Gevz2kX
04-06-2009, 02:47 AM
http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/bowenkick2.jpg

+ he did the same drop kick to Wally
+ kneed Nash in the groin
...I could go on for a while

iggy>
04-06-2009, 02:47 AM
rodman, and of course....bruce bowen

White Chocolate
04-06-2009, 02:51 AM
http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/bowenkick2.jpg

+ he did the same drop kick to Wally
+ kneed Nash in the groin
...I could go on for a while


The NBA front office is so naive. You don't accidently kick a guy in the face or anywhere for that matter while in mid air.

Stringer Bell
04-06-2009, 02:54 AM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1434/bowenqg1.gif

White Chocolate
04-06-2009, 02:59 AM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1434/bowenqg1.gif


So inadvertant. :rolleyes:

Stringer Bell
04-06-2009, 03:08 AM
Some random dirty plays & cheap shots.

@ the 3:07 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_z_68NdbqM&fmt=18


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nIHCR--Bg&fmt=18


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiEhOc-HE1c&fmt=18

Stringer Bell
04-06-2009, 03:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQrKIGde7Qk&fmt=18

joma11
04-06-2009, 04:41 AM
bowen, malone & horry.

Toizumi
04-06-2009, 04:49 AM
giantgonzolez is the only one who thinks that Shaq is the dirtiest player in NBA history :banghead:

I've seen some old bad boys games (downloaded, I was a baby back then).. but I'd still say that Bruce Bowen is the dirtiest player I've ever seen. The thing he did when he made jumpshooters come down on his foot to fck up their ankles was dirty and when he kicked amare on a dunk attempt..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

Malone is a close second.. I still remember this
http://www.makingpages.org/hoops/nash.tooth.jpg

:oldlol: toothless steve nash.. didnt somebody else break one of his teeth last year too btw?

RiPPn
04-06-2009, 05:25 AM
I like a little dirty dirty, maybe it comes with being a Jazz fan. I personally think the NBA is to soft now. And Isiah Thomas was such a whiner, after that Malone elbow, every interview he added more and more stitches. As for Nash, I think that happened in game 1 of the Spurs/Suns playoff last year, one thing about Nssh he can sure take some punishment.

Yung D-Will
04-06-2009, 05:27 AM
Karl Malone is the cleanest player in history stop hating

:rolleyes:

godofgods
04-06-2009, 05:54 AM
Shaq is the dirtiest. I agree wholeheartedly.

On the other hand, there are many players who are dirtier than Stockton or Harpring.

ronnymac
04-06-2009, 06:26 AM
From my decades worth of watching the NBA, these are the top 5.

5. Karl Malone, elbows, cheapshots and allaround dirty play(just ask Isiah Thomas).

4. Bill Cartwright: one of the dirtiest bigmen who used dirty plays to gain and advantage(just ask Olajuwon).

3. John Stockton, used his "stock broker" looks to fool everyone into thinking he was a nice guy but would do whatever it took to get an unfair advantage including allegedly hitting opposing players in the groin.

2. Matt Harpring: very dirty player that I've seen go after people's knees and almost once broke Yao Ming's back with an extremely dirty play.

1. Shaq: Simply the DIRTIEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME.
The biggest bully the NBA's ever seen. Elbows defenders in the face, rams his shoulders into the defender, takes sucker punches at some of whom have their backs turned, commits flagrant 2 fouls on dunkers(even almost ENDED MJ and Vince Carter's careers after they tried to dunk on him).
During dunking on defenders he intentionally kicks them in the groin, knees them in the head, and elbows them after he lands, thows a quick forearm shiver on a guy 1/3rd his size(AK47), slapping Ostertag just because he shut Shaq down in the playoffs the previous year, etc.
Shaq NEVER EVER tries this kind of stuff on guys like Tractor Trailer or Anthony Mason whey they were guarding him, he's a CLASSIC coward and bully. I'd just love to see Mark Henry, Paul Wight or Dalip Singh give Shaq a taste of his own medicine.
Here are just a few of the tens of thousands of dirty plays Shaq has committed in his career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DobXKM8CfuU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwJoI0YEGI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3FXLyNFew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A60KLjIFksA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaKLmrmAg84&feature=PlayList&p=F4E7A709804B5F0D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI85iVU3xkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3LxYJKazAM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07DKg1Ke1kbql/340x.jpg


Any list without Bill lambier, Xavir McDaniels, john starks, Dennis Rodman, Kirilenko and Bruce Bowen is utterly useless.

AznTacoLover
04-06-2009, 11:22 AM
giantgonzolez is the only one who thinks that Shaq is the dirtiest player in NBA history :banghead:

I've seen some old bad boys games (downloaded, I was a baby back then).. but I'd still say that Bruce Bowen is the dirtiest player I've ever seen. The thing he did when he made jumpshooters come down on his foot to fck up their ankles was dirty and when he kicked amare on a dunk attempt..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

Malone is a close second.. I still remember this
http://www.makingpages.org/hoops/nash.tooth.jpg

:oldlol: toothless steve nash.. didnt somebody else break one of his teeth last year too btw?

Yupp I think it was a Utah game and bam boozer knocked one of his tooths out. :roll:
buttt. no Bowen!? kicked someone in the face kicked ray allen. kneed steve nash.
Horry kneed nash to the whatever it's called in the playoffs.

BallPhunk
04-06-2009, 02:19 PM
The thing he did when he made jumpshooters come down on his foot to fck up their ankles was dirty and when he kicked amare on a dunk attempt..[/B]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU


YES - I was just about to post that clip. Pushing, grabbing, etc... is one thing, but I've never seen someone do something that could obviously hurt/end someone's career more than Bowen.

Lost ALL respect for that guy after the "sweep the leg" move on Amare and all the "step under their feet and break their ankle" moves.

I must admit, this is fun to watch though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZNwSC_6H90&feature=related

:lol

Lebron23
04-06-2009, 04:21 PM
C- Bill Laimbeer
F- Karl Malone
F- Robert Horry
G- Bruce Bowen
G- John Stockton

East_Stone_Ya
04-06-2009, 04:24 PM
not really known for being dirty but that hit was really bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7sovyb4Cpg&feature=related

utahjazzrock
04-06-2009, 04:35 PM
After seeing pictures, Karl goes up more on my list. Hated to do it but it had to be done.:(
No current Jazz players are very dirty if at all.
Harprings just tough.
From a Jazz-hater standpoint, I can really see Harpring as the only "dirty" one but only if Im a hater.

But all I know is this---Bruce Bowen is #1 for sure. I wont say anything else.
Theres the pictures of him kicking and I dont know if anyone has posted pics of him kciking Amare on his way up or kneeing Nash.

Shaq isnt that dirty. You can have arguments for how he is, but Laimbeer, Horry, Bowen, several others listed and not listed before, are dirtier.

giantgonzolez
04-07-2009, 06:31 AM
After seeing pictures, Karl goes up more on my list. Hated to do it but it had to be done.:(
No current Jazz players are very dirty if at all.
Harprings just tough.
From a Jazz-hater standpoint, I can really see Harpring as the only "dirty" one but only if Im a hater.

But all I know is this---Bruce Bowen is #1 for sure. I wont say anything else.
Theres the pictures of him kicking and I dont know if anyone has posted pics of him kciking Amare on his way up or kneeing Nash.

Shaq isnt that dirty. You can have arguments for how he is, but Laimbeer, Horry, Bowen, several others listed and not listed before, are dirtier.

HOW CAN ANYONE SAY Shaq isn't that dirty? Have you SEEN THE SUCKER PUNCH HE TOOK at Alvin Robertson? Have you seen when he almost paralized Antonio Daniels with a dirty flagrant 2(that the FAKE refs only called a flagrant 1), Have you seen how he took a sucker punch at the back of Brad Miller's head? Nobod in MMA would even take a sucker punch at the back of somebody's head like that.

Manute for Ever!
04-07-2009, 06:49 AM
I was a fan of Horry, but I do have to admit that he is a dirty player.
He actually started a bench clearing brawl between the Rockets and Sonics in the 1993 NBA playoffs because of a dirty flagrant 2 foul.

How could it be a flagrant 2 if the call didn't exist in 1993? There were no levels of flagrant so quit exaggerating.

Torious
04-07-2009, 07:38 AM
1. Shaq: Simply the DIRTIEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME.
The biggest bully the NBA's ever seen. Elbows defenders in the face, rams his shoulders into the defender, takes sucker punches at some of whom have their backs turned, commits flagrant 2 fouls on dunkers(even almost ENDED MJ and Vince Carter's careers after they tried to dunk on him).
During dunking on defenders he intentionally kicks them in the groin, knees them in the head, and elbows them after he lands, thows a quick forearm shiver on a guy 1/3rd his size(AK47), slapping Ostertag just because he shut Shaq down in the playoffs the previous year, etc.
Shaq NEVER EVER tries this kind of stuff on guys like Tractor Trailer or Anthony Mason whey they were guarding him, he's a CLASSIC coward and bully. I'd just love to see Mark Henry, Paul Wight or Dalip Singh give Shaq a taste of his own medicine.
Here are just a few of the tens of thousands of dirty plays Shaq has committed in his career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DobXKM8CfuU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwJoI0YEGI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3FXLyNFew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A60KLjIFksA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaKLmrmAg84&feature=PlayList&p=F4E7A709804B5F0D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI85iVU3xkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3LxYJKazAM

Seriously, after reviewing all those "pieces of evidence" I've got to say: :oldlol:

What do you expect to happen, when a 320 pound guy tries to block a twig like Stucky while coming over from the weak side and misses the block? Imagine their roles were reversed and Stucky tries to block Shaq (yeah right, lol). You'd STILL post it as evidence of Shaq's dirty play, cause he'd have run right through him and Stucky would have landed in the third row.


http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07DKg1Ke1kbql/340x.jpg

Clearly Mutombo is a very dirty player. He constantly fouled Shaq in this series. With his face.

Manute for Ever!
04-07-2009, 08:03 AM
Giantgonzolez, this may be the only way we can get the message across:

http://static.flickr.com/18/69090847_bef38d0e00.jpg