Kobe Bryant Appreciation Thread

[Lebron23]

One of the most talented player in NBA History. I am glad that I watched him evolve into a great player since he was drafted by the Hornets straight from HS, and then he was traded to the Los Angeles Lakers.

http://www.thekobedebate.com/images/kobe_bryant_slam_dunk.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/writers/marty_burns/06/07/finals.game.2.preview/p1.bryant.jpg

http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/kobe-bryant-mvp.jpg

http://www.bballcity.com/images/2007/kobe-bryant-7-med.jpg


NBA awards and accomplishments



* 3-time NBA champion: 2000, 2001, 2002

* 5 NBA Finals appearances: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2008[11][12][13][14][15]

* 1-time NBA Most Valuable Player: 2008
* 2-time scoring champion: 2006, 2007[18]
* 11-time NBA All-Star: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009[9]

* 11 consecutive appearances (No All-Star game in 1999 due to a league-wide lockout)

* 3-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2002, 2007, 2009 (shared with Shaquille O'Neal)

* 10-time All-NBA selection:

* First team: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008
* Second team: 2000, 2001
* Third team: 1999, 2005

* 8-time All-Defensive selection:

* First team: 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008[24][25]
* Second team: 2001, 2002[24][25]

* NBA All-Rookie selection:

* Second team: 1997[26][27]

* NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion: 1997[28]
* NBA regular season leader:

* points: 2003 (2,461), 2006 (2,832, 7th in NBA history)[29], 2007 (2,430), 2008 (2,323)[9]
* points per game: 2006 (35.4, 8th in NBA history)[30], 2007 (31.6)
* field goals attempted: 2006 (2,173), 2007 (1,757), 2008 (1,690)
* field goals made: 2003 (868), 2006 (978), 2007 (813)
* free throws attempted: 2007 (768)
* free throws made: 2006 (696), 2007 (667)

* 2nd most points in a game: 81 (on January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors)

Bryant holds nine and shares two NBA records:

* Most three-point field goals made, one game: 12 (on January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; shared with Donyell Marshall)[31]
* Most three-point field goals made, one half: 8 (on March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards; shared with 5 other players)[31][32]
* Youngest player to score 15,000 points: (27 years, 136 days)
* Youngest player to score 18,000 points: (28 years, 156 days)
* Youngest player to score 20,000 points: (29 years, 122 days)

* Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record.

* Became one of only three players to reach the milestone under the age of 30. The other two are Chamberlain (29 years, 134 days)[35] and Michael Jordan (29 years, 326 days).

* Youngest player to score 23,000 points: (30 years, 171 days)[37]

* Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record.[37]

* Youngest player to be named to the NBA All-Rookie Team: (1996–97)[38]
* Youngest player to be named to the NBA All-Defensive Team: (1999–00)[38]
* Youngest player to start a game: (&0000000000000018.00000018 years, &0000000000000158.000000158 days)[1]
* Youngest player to start an All-Star game[38]
* Most points scored at Madison Square Garden: 61 (on February 2, 2009 vs. New York Knicks)


Top 5 Favorite Kobe Bryant Performances.


1. 81 points vs. Toronto Raptors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVC3DtgoYZY




2. 61 points vs. New York Knicks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPfSbK6ibMI


3. 45 points vs. Phoenix Suns ( 2007 NBA playoffs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTKa3arJtJo

4. 51 points vs. Phoenix Suns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unXNJAAxnSU&feature=related

5. 33 points, 14 rebounds, 11 assists, vs. Portland Trailblazers ( Regular Season Game)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiiDZl72esU




PS

Please don't even mention Jordan, Wade, and LeBron on this thread. Stop hating on the guy, and just appreciate him as the 2nd Greatest SG of all time.

Kobe H@ters & Fan boys are going to miss Kobe Bryant, when he finally retires in the NBA.

He is just an amazing player, and he already matured a a great team leader.

[1~Gibson~1]

did you copy and paste some of that? :roll:

Congrats Kobe btw. :applause:

[kap]

well it's hard to not argue with you when you make a bold statement as 2nd best sg of all time. you might offend people, and therefore cant expect them to not reply with your taboos

[DukeDelonte13]

yay for Kobe

[Killer_Instinct]

KB has come a long way. My favorite player of all. Sad to see him decline.

[Champion]

He was amazing in game six of the NBA finals. He kept his team in the game playing 42 minutes and showed why he's the best basketball player in the game. Even in a loss, he didn't give up.

[Yung D-Will]

2nd best Sg of all tim behind Jordan. In my opinon currently the best player in the leauge. And I think this is his year for that finals mvp. And to the comment on top I don't think Kobe's declined at all.

[inclinerator]

lol kobe was drafted by the hornets

[All Net]

KB has come a long way. My favorite player of all. Sad to see him decline.

since when did Kobe decline? he's just as good as he has been for a number of years.

[PoGoMon]

YAY for Kobe! :applause: :cheers:

[ihatetimthomas]

since when did Kobe decline? he's just as good as he has been for a number of years.

His athletic ability has declined, but he has improved his overall game so he is at his best. Not to mention top notch conditioning

[Yung D-Will]

since when did Kobe decline? he's just as good as he has been for a number of years.

Thats what I was thinking. A couple bad games and pepole start doubting a decade of excellence.

His all around game has improved. So I think it's all evened out

[nbastatus]

i love you kobe bryant.
thanks for playing in LA.

[iTruWarrior]

His athletic ability has declined, but he has improved his overall game so he is at his best. Not to mention top notch conditioning
That was pretty much the same thing for Hakeem. He reached his prime/peak in his 30's, but his athletic ability declined and you can tell just by looking at his rebounds/blocks/steals stats.

That's really the true way you know somebody declined with their athletic ability. Kevin Garnett has completely regressed on those categories as well, and he's clearly losing his athletic ability.

[branslowski]

KB has come a long way. My favorite player of all. Sad to see him decline.

Kobe has alot of you guys tricked i swear...He's a Vet, who is taking it easy during gms..He hasnt declined yet... and 27ppg 5reb 5ast isnt a decline in anything when his career numbers are 25ppg 5reb 4.6ast..

[The Magic Man]

This is either gonna be really good or reeeeaaallllly baaaaaaaad. Either way...

http://i43.tinypic.com/2djo0w.jpg

Kobe over Hakeem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBofxJw-LU8

Kobe baptizes Dwight Howard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORe0_CS-s1A

Where Kobe Happens...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V5ClV2D49A


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac4HOTcbf2o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVJhX9Iqgjs


http://i43.tinypic.com/2hofqmw.jpg

My donation to the shrine.

[ruslan]

phuck the rap!st

[Alpha Wolf]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AABK030~Kobe-Bryant-with-2000-Championship-Trophy-Photofile-Posters.jpg


If he ain't GOD on the basketball court....then why is he worshiped?


Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anoqbgOZrEg

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYZAgKRtM8

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGJSiMqpWk


you can't do this for any other player right now......no one else has this much respect from his peers in the NBA.........this man is the living embodiment of God in the form of an athlete............when God wanted to create the PERFECT basketball player he gave birth to Kobe Bean Bryant.........just be glad you are worthy enough to be alive when tha God was gracious enough to bless you with the opportunity to see his greatness......his time among us mere mortals will be short so be sure to appreciate the chance you have to watch the GREATEST OF ALL TIME perform

[Mr_Basketball#1]

http://cynicalsports.com/images/bryantkobe.jpg

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/2/a/f/2af3c7c2cb82c2e522e3612774edd4ed.jpg

Sorry Lebron23 I couldn't resist.

[inclinerator]

damn that dunk on hakeem was sick

[ruslan]

Why would anyone rape an innocent white girl?

[Mikaiel]

Thats what I was thinking. A couple bad games and pepole start doubting a decade of excellence.

A couple of bad games ? Since February 27th, he had 11 games where he shot 40% or lower. Including 7 times in 8 games. More like a bad month.

[Lebron23]

damn that dunk on hakeem was sick

Lawd have mercy. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ruslan]

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8867/mjneverchokedjune2008fp3.jpg

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http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4430/kobegirlin4.jpg

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http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9624/pricelesslakerslosenb7.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4928/kobechokerbryantjb6.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8171/kobewannabemjgk1.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6376/greatestmjdc5.jpg

Don't hate I did my best!




































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[The Magic Man]

Why would anyone rape an innocent white girl?

Start a Kobe Bryant the Rap!st thread and let's talk about it.

[Alpha Wolf]

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:hammertime:

[west]

ruslan:Repped:rockon:

[The Magic Man]

ruslan:Repped:rockon:

Lol, for asking why Kobe raped a white girl? LMAO, pathetic. People claim to not like Kobe Bryant. They hate seeing numerous kobe threads filled with Kobe homers or ******gers. Someone creates a thread to keep it all in one place, hopefuly, so that you guys don't have to see Kobe threads plastered all over the first page. What do you jagaloons do? Go into a Kobe appreciation thread just to talk $hit about Kobe. Losers.

[PoGoMon]

Start a Kobe Bryant the Rap!st thread and let's talk about it.

Don't talk with idiots like that! They're just kids who cannot spell, reason, or discuss anything rationally! Tell 'em to go play in their sandboxes! :rolleyes:

[nbastatus]

Lol, for asking why Kobe raped a white girl? LMAO, pathetic. People claim to not like Kobe Bryant. They hate seeing numerous kobe threads filled with Kobe homers or ******gers. Someone creates a thread to keep it all in one place, hopefuly, so that you guys don't have to see Kobe threads plastered all over the first page. What do you jagaloons do? Go into a Kobe appreciation thread just to talk $hit about Kobe. Losers.
why do you care:confusedshrug:

[The Magic Man]

why do you care:confusedshrug:

It's just stupid. The word homer and ******ger kills me. You guys call people that for liking a certain player but at the same time you go to any length to diss said player. What does that make those people?

[nbastatus]

It's just stupid. The word homer and ******ger kills me. You guys call people that for liking a certain player but at the same time you go to any length to diss said player. What does that make those people?
haters?
everyone has the right to hate :D

[branslowski]

I knew imature allday haters would invade this thread...From LeBron, Wade fanboys, to Celtic Bandwagon fans....pathetic

[The Magic Man]

haters?
everyone has the right to hate :D

That's fine. Hey, if they aint hating, you aint doing something right. Whats the point of commenting on someone you obviously don't like? These guys are losers.

[west]

It's just stupid. The word homer and ******ger kills me. You guys call people that for liking a certain player but at the same time you go to any length to diss said player. What does that make those people?
Just calm down buddy,i just repped a poster for posting something i have not seen before and it's actually funny:oldlol:

[sharpshooter88]

stop hating on kobe people just accept the fact he is one of the best basketball players to ever play the game! kb24 for life

[The Magic Man]

Just calm down buddy,i just repped a poster for posting something i have not seen before and it's actually funny:oldlol:

1. You've never heard anyone imply Kobe raped an inocent white girl?
2. That was funny?

You're an idiot.

[v-unit]

1. You've never heard anyone imply Kobe raped an inocent white girl?
2. That was funny?

You're an idiot.

I think he meant the post with all the pictures. I didn't see like 90% of those either and they made me laugh. No shame in that.

[magi]

Kobe's 62 points in 3 quarters against Dallas is most definitely one of his five best all time performances.
Also when he had 4 straight 50+ point games, that was something only Wilt has done.

[The Magic Man]

I think he meant the post with all the pictures. I didn't see like 90% of those either and they made me laugh. No shame in that.

I didnt see it was Ruslan who posted the pics too. My bad.

[magi]

It's pathetic how many idiots this forum has. It's just funny how insecure some people are on this forum. Kobe made the game of basketball more enjoyable for every basketball fan in the world, yet some of you can't appreciate the guy for personal reasons/agenda's.

Just despicable.

[KingJay718]

Kobe is God.

[JJ81]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Lebron23]

I didnt see it was Ruslan who posted the pics too. My bad.


Just Calm down. Kobe is innocent until proven guilty. It's already an old news, and the rape charges had been dropped.

Even great NBA players like Jordan, Malone, Rodman, Chamberlain are womanizers.

[west]

1. You've never heard anyone imply Kobe raped an inocent white girl?
2. That was funny?

You're an idiot.
They are all choke related:confusedshrug:
Yes,this is funny

[ruslan]

Don't talk with idiots like that! They're just kids who cannot spell, reason, or discuss anything rationally! Tell 'em to go play in their sandboxes! :rolleyes:

go play with you pogo stick man

[The Magic Man]

Just Calm down. Kobe is innocent until proven guilty. It's already an old news, and the rape charges had been dropped.

Even great NBA players like Jordan, Malone, Rodman, Chamberlain are womanizers.

Lol, one of my many pet pieves. Someone telling me to calm down when I'm cooler that a polar bear's toenails.

[ruslan]

Lol, one of my many pet pieves. Someone telling me to calm down when I'm cooler that a polar bear's toenails.

Lying over the net = FAIL. :roll: :roll:

[The Magic Man]

Lying over the net = FAIL. :roll: :roll:

Going out of your way to attack someone more successful than your entire generation will ever be = FAIL.

[v-unit]

Going out of your way to attack someone more successful than your entire generation will ever be = FAIL.

You seriously need to calm down. I already reported your post, I didn't think I would actually have to tell you to calm down.

It's just a message board.

LOL jokes jokes

[branslowski]

Going out of your way to attack someone more successful than your entire generation will ever be = FAIL.

BURN!!:roll: :lol :roll: :oldlol:

[v-unit]

I was hoping you would respond so you could see the white font but whatever. I was just joking.

[ruslan]

I was hoping you would respond so you could see the white font but whatever. I was just joking.

that's worst fail.

[The Magic Man]

I was hoping you would respond so you could see the white font but whatever. I was just joking.

Lol, I just read it. I was like wtf did I do?

[ruslan]

Going out of your way to attack someone more successful than your entire generation will ever be = FAIL.

Taking someone over the net seriously = FAIL.
I don't hate kobe just wanted to bring some fun into this thread because it doesn't look like you got many responses. As you see my post got u 2 extra pages of responses! :applause:

[Godfather]

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http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8171/kobewannabemjgk1.jpg

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Don't hate I did my best!




































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:roll:

[ihatetimthomas]

One of the most complete offensive players ever to grace the game. He truly evolved his game over the years and is playing at his best even with the decline of his athletic ability. He is the most hated one here. But you gotta respect what he has done for this game and all of his accomplishments. People try to pick aprt what he hasnt done, I try to look at what he has done and appreciate that, and its damn impressive. You dont gotta like the guy, but he is a very special player and we are lucky to be have been able to watch him throughout the years

[The Magic Man]

Taking someone over the net seriously = FAIL.
I don't hate kobe just wanted to bring some fun into this thread because it doesn't look like you got many responses. As you see my post got u 2 extra pages of responses! :applause:

The damn thing just got created like.... you know what...

Back to Kobe. How about some Kobe and Lebron. The present and the future..

http://i40.tinypic.com/why6bl.jpg


Kobe and Lebron Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymnatD8qP60

Cavs vs Lakers January 19, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PXZ71cKiNo

Kobe and Lebron Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbSaz_YY7V0

[journeyman]

One of the most complete offensive players ever to grace the game. He truly evolved his game over the years and is playing at his best even with the decline of his athletic ability. He is the most hated one here. But you gotta respect what he has done for this game and all of his accomplishments. People try to pick aprt what he hasnt done, I try to look at what he has done and appreciate that, and its damn impressive. You dont gotta like the guy, but he is a very special player and we are lucky to be have been able to watch him throughout the years

Without a doubt...Truly one of a kind Superstar!:cheers:

[ruslan]

One of the most complete offensive players ever to grace the game. He truly evolved his game over the years and is playing at his best even with the decline of his athletic ability. He is the most hated one here. But you gotta respect what he has done for this game and all of his accomplishments. People try to pick aprt what he hasnt done, I try to look at what he has done and appreciate that, and its damn impressive. You dont gotta like the guy, but he is a very special player and we are lucky to be have been able to watch him throughout the years

Allen Iverson would disagree.

[ImmortalD24]

Eh.. Why am I not surprised that an AI fan would ruin this thread?


(bleeping) Canswers.:rolleyes:

[Juges8932]

i love you kobe bryant.
thanks for playing in LA.

Amen.

[Champion]

Kobe's performance in game six of the NBA finals solidified why he's the most valuable player.

[ihatetimthomas]

Allen Iverson would disagree.
He is hated but Kobe Bryant is by far and wide the most hated player on this site

[NBASTATMAN]

One of the most talented player in NBA History. I am glad that I watched him evolve into a great player since he was drafted by the Hornets straight from HS, and then he was traded to the Los Angeles Lakers.

http://www.thekobedebate.com/images/kobe_bryant_slam_dunk.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/writers/marty_burns/06/07/finals.game.2.preview/p1.bryant.jpg

http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/kobe-bryant-mvp.jpg

http://www.bballcity.com/images/2007/kobe-bryant-7-med.jpg




Top 5 Favorite Kobe Bryant Performances.


1. 81 points vs. Toronto Raptors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVC3DtgoYZY




2. 61 points vs. New York Knicks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPfSbK6ibMI


3. 45 points vs. Phoenix Suns ( 2007 NBA playoffs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTKa3arJtJo

4. 51 points vs. Phoenix Suns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unXNJAAxnSU&feature=related

5. 33 points, 14 rebounds, 11 assists, vs. Portland Trailblazers ( Regular Season Game)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiiDZl72esU




PS

Please don't even mention Jordan, Wade, and LeBron on this thread. Stop hating on the guy, and just appreciate him as the 2nd Greatest SG of all time.

Kobe H@ters & Fan boys are going to miss Kobe Bryant, when he finally retires in the NBA.

He is just an amazing player, and he already matured a a great team leader.



Great player and great work ethic.. I would have appreciated him more if he came to the clips.. lol

[NBASTATMAN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ruslan
















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This has to be one of the funniest things I have ever seen on a message board.. Sorry kobe fans.. I still think Kobe is great...

[Champion]

Kobe plays great in all star games and not so great in the NBA finals. Hence his MVP collection.

[JJ81]

Kobe plays great in all star games and not so great in the NBA finals. Hence his MVP collection.

3 time NBA Champion.

[crisoner]

Yet another Kobe thread...just what this site needed.

lol jp

Kudos to the thread. We should just respect the good ones we are able to enjoy right now. And Kobe is one of them.

[LA_Showtime]

3 time NBA Champion.

Don't respond to idiots like that. They never have anything good to say.

[Batman]

Greatest Player not named Michael Jordan to ever play the game of basketball

[danumber88]

One of those guys in ur schedule "@ LA Lakers or Lakers in your territory" you know you get nervous..

[Champion]

3 time NBA Champion.

Too bad the last time we saw him in the NBA finals it was a 39 point lashing. How can a 3-time NBA champion, most valuable player, lead his team to such a beatdown. Yes, it's one game. But if you are the symbol of a team and don't get the job done 7-21 22 points in 42 minutes when your team needed you the most, you are overrated in my book. The last two NBA finals appearance, Kobe had some great games, but many of them were below expectation. Game 4, did Kobe, the black mamba, hold on to that massive 20 plus point lead at home? How can the best basketball player allow his opponents a chance, an opportunity is beyond me. Kobe had the most playoff experience out of all the players in that NBA series. Yet in game six, he played like a rookie or an individual who never been there before.

[All Net]

Celtics were better as a team, they were more healthly than L.A, played better defense and were smarter. They also had homecourt which was important for the tone of the series. Kobe didn't play great but him alone wasn't the reason they lost. Celtics were simply better and took advantage of the Lakers lack of interior defense. Feel free If you think Kobe is overrated or not good enough..whatever just stop going on and on about what happened in the finals. It's old news.

Now move on...we are in 2009.

[Champion]

Celtics were better as a team, they were more healthly than L.A, played better defense and were smarter. They also had homecourt which was important for the tone of the series. Kobe didn't play great but him alone wasn't the reason they lost. Celtics were simply better and took advantage of the Lakers lack of interior defense. Feel free If you think Kobe is overrated or not good enough..whatever just stop going on and on about what happened in the finals. It's old news.

Now move on...we are in 2009.

I thought 2004 was a fluke and that Kobe would prove my hatred of him wrong, then 2008 repeats. What i'm suppose to do? Blame the entire team. It was almost like the Phoenix Suns game seven fiasco (after blowing a 3-1 lead). People blame the team more than Kobe quitting on them. Leaders don't quit on their team. Leaders don't ask to be traded.

[gpfanz]

Very gd offensive machine :bowdown:

[JJ81]

One of the most amazing players of all time, Kobe Bryant. Giving credit where credit's due. :rockon:

[Alpha Wolf]

:bowdown:

http://www.thekobedebate.com/images/kobe_playing_photo.jpg



The Greatest Basketball Players of All-Time

[JJ81]

:bowdown:

http://www.thekobedebate.com/images/kobe_playing_photo.jpg



The Greatest Basketball Players of All-Time

awesome drawing:applause:

[Killbot]

LOL. The pics ruslan posted were hilarious.

[monkeypox]

LOL. The pics ruslan posted were hilarious.

I dunno I thought they were kind of stale to be honest. Time for people to get some fresh troll material or to find a new internet fad to latch on too.

[Ancient Legend]

Is Kobe retiring? :lol

Otherwise this thread doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Heilige]

awesome drawing:applause:


That is not a drawing..:ohwell:

[Alpha Wolf]

That is not a drawing..:ohwell:


he was talking about this pic

http://www.kobe8bryant.net/images/drawing8.jpg

[The Magic Man]

Is Kobe retiring? :lol

Otherwise this thread doesn't make a lot of sense.

What doesn't make sense are fools entering an appreciation thread with negativity. Where's the ISH police when you need them to start Rodney Kingin' Muthaf^ckas? If you don't care about the dude, stfu. I like Kobe, the player. Do I love him? No. I do appreciate him for what he is. A very talented, one of a kind, basketball player. Do like Raja Bell? Hell nah. I hate that homo. If there was a Raja Bell Appreciation Thread would I go within 10 miles of that $hit? Please, that's just stupid. I think the folks who are posting anti-Kobe $hit in a pro Kobe thread are closet fans, thats all.

[Alpha Wolf]

[QUOTE=ruslan]http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8867/mjneverchokedjune2008fp3.jpg

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Don't hate I did my best!




So while Kobe is living his life, f*cking his dime of a wife, taking his children to disney land, making it rain from his balcony, dropping 20G on champagne and not drinking it while y'all photoshopping Kobe and having him on your mind 24/7? that's what hot I guess

[ihatetimthomas]

I dont understand why people here cant give him his due. How can you not respect his killer instinct, dedication to the game, and overall talent. I guess haters will hate. The guy is not a perfect player, but he has accomplished an amazing amount of feats in his career. And 3 titles second fiddle or not is an excellent accomplishment. Kobe gets hated in every single thread, why not just this once give him credit for what he has done for the game in an appreciation thread?

[BallPhunk]

I dont understand why people here cant give him his due. How can you not respect his killer instinct, dedication to the game, and overall talent. I guess haters will hate. The guy is not a perfect player, but he has accomplished an amazing amount of feats in his career. And 3 titles second fiddle or not is an excellent accomplishment. Kobe gets hated in every single thread, why not just this once give him credit for what he has done for the game in an appreciation thread?

It's always been funny to me that there is always this undercurrent of "Kobe fans are the worst", "they think he's better than Jordan", "the Kobe trolls..." blah blah blaaaah

But anyone with their eyes open can see:

1. There are many more anti-Kobe trolls
2. There are many more people who undervalue him vs overvalue him
3. The people that despise him are far more obsessed than the people who love him

Just look at this thread. They just can't help themselves - they've got to post the same old tired lines. Sad really.

[Balla_Status]

Not just a scholar, a gentleman, and a basketball player. Something way more than that.

Go to any f*cking place in the world of your choosing and reference him and you'll get some form of recognition. He'z that raw.

EVeryday I aspire to imitate his perfect blend of slashabilitay, defense, and fadeaways.. The man, the myth, the legend. Koh-Bee Bean Brie-Ent. Legendary.

[ihatetimthomas]

It's always been funny to me that there is always this undercurrent of "Kobe fans are the worst", "they think he's better than Jordan", "the Kobe trolls..." blah blah blaaaah

But anyone with their eyes open can see:

1. There are many more anti-Kobe trolls
2. There are many more people who undervalue him vs overvalue him
3. The people that despise him are far more obsessed than the people who love him

Just look at this thread. They just can't help themselves - they've got to post the same old tired lines. Sad really.

Exactly. I am not at all of the kobe homers here on the site, but there are posters here who lash out at anything posted about Kobe. And if you give him any type of credit, you are now a "homer". Some posters here I see only post against Kobe. What will they do when he retires? Probably be more sad than the Kobe homers bc who will they hate on?

[Maniak]

Props to one of my most hated NBA players ever.

[NBASTATMAN]

Greatest Player not named Michael Jordan to ever play the game of basketball



Kobe isn't even the best laker.. Magic was better... Magic won at all stages.. High school, college and even as a rookie played center.. Kobe isn't in that league.. Maybe if he wins like 3 more titles we can compare Kobe to a Magic... But Magic did it at every stage and even as a rookie... MAGIC IS THE BEST LAKER OF ALL TIME...

[Alpha Wolf]

Kobe isn't even the best laker.. Magic was better... Magic won at all stages.. High school, college and even as a rookie played center.. Kobe isn't in that league.. Maybe if he wins like 3 more titles we can compare Kobe to a Magic... But Magic did it at every stage and even as a rookie... MAGIC IS THE BEST LAKER OF ALL TIME...


Kobe is the living embodiment of God in the form of an athlete............when God wanted to create the PERFECT basketball player he gave birth to Kobe Bean Bryant.........just be glad you are worthy enough to be alive when tha God was gracious enough to bless you with the opportunity to see his greatness......his time among us mere mortals will be short so be sure to appreciate the chance you have to watch the GREATEST OF ALL TIME perform

[Biddy77]

this thread is great. dare i say it, maybe the greatest Kobe thread of all time?


in all seriousness, i like the first post, and i feel the same way.

[LA_Showtime]

Kobe isn't even the best laker.. Magic was better... Magic won at all stages.. High school, college and even as a rookie played center.. Kobe isn't in that league.. Maybe if he wins like 3 more titles we can compare Kobe to a Magic... But Magic did it at every stage and even as a rookie... MAGIC IS THE BEST LAKER OF ALL TIME...

You start off by saying Kobe isn't the best Laker. Then you say that Magic won at all stages: high school, college, and as a rookie. Why the hell does high school and college matter?

Magic was a great player, and I still think he's the GOAT Laker, but unlike Kobe he went to college and was ready to play right away. Oh yeah, he had Kareem.:oldlol:

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

great player.
can't decide if he is the 3rd or 4th greatest Laker of all time.

[shawbryant]

season 2005 really means a lot to him or kinda tarnished his feats.

[raptorfan_dr07]

How can you not respect his killer instinct

Yep, he sure showed his killer instinct choking away a 3-1 series lead on the Suns. He sure showed it chucking his team out of the finals in 2004. He sure showed it getting rolled 4-1 in '07. He really put it on display in Game 4 of the finals last year, Boston was making a run and he just ripped their hearts out! What about Game 6? Oh boy he was such a killer in that game. I really respect that! :applause: :applause:

[godofgods]

Yep, he sure showed his killer instinct choking away a 3-1 series lead on the Suns. He sure showed it chucking his team out of the finals in 2004. He sure showed it getting rolled 4-1 in '07. He really put it on display in Game 4 of the finals last year, Boston was making a run and he just ripped their hearts out! What about Game 6? Oh boy he was such a killer in that game. I really respect that! :applause: :applause:

Damn straight. His clutch ability and his killer instinct are vastly overrated. In reality, they are about the same as Zan Tabak's clutch ability and killer instinct.

[Ken_Masters]

Can't stand his guts, but he is a great player. Have to give him credit for that.

[Toizumi]

Lol how is this an appreciation thread when every post (even postive ones) is about someone being better and kobe not being good at stuff. I have enough bad (and very true) things to say about kobe but fck dat. Let's appreciate..

one of the greatest ever :bowdown:

http://www.thekobedebate.com/images/kobe_bryant_slam_dunk.jpg

[gpfanz]

I dont understand why people here cant give him his due. How can you not respect his killer instinct, dedicatior...

He's latest finals performance is a display of his killer instinct? :banghead:

[dafunkphenom]

Still tied for best player in the NBA in my opinion. With Lebron of course. I'm just not ready to give Lebron the "King" title yet.

[Killer_Instinct]

since when did Kobe decline? he's just as good as he has been for a number of years.


Perhaps I should have specified athletically. Obviously I offended you. Didn't think it was that serious.

[lazerface]

i don't know, i just never understood the mentality of hating on a player just because he's really good and not on my team. if a player is outstanding at what he does, there's a good chance i'm going enjoy at least some part of his game, and respect what he brings to that game.

i'm a die hard cavs fan (cleveland fan in general), but i still enjoy watching kobe and wade and many other great nba players tear it up. (except when they're playing the cavs, of course)

[KenneBell]

:oldlol:

There's really no point in this thread. The only time people are going to appreciate what he's done is after he's retired.

[lazerface]

but i can kinda understand some people not liking kobe because of the way he acted during shaq's departure.

[snipes12]

is kobe retired?

[Lebron23]

40 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

40 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

nice bump.

:cheers:

repped for class act.

[branslowski]

40 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Awesome Bump Bro...:applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers:

[Lebron23]

nice bump.

:cheers:

repped for class act.


Awesome Bump Bro...:applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers:



:cheers:

I am also rooting for the Lakers to win the NBA Championship this year. Kobe deserve to win his first NBA Finals MVP, and he's arguably the best SG in the post Jordan Era.

He's definitely a top 10 players in NBA History.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

:cheers:

I am also rooting for the Lakers to win the NBA Championship this year. Kobe deserve to win his first NBA Finals MVP, and he's arguably the best SG in the post Jordan Era.

He's definitely a top 10 players in NBA History.

hey, I went to rep you and it said I had to spread out my reps before giving another one to you. ...but I had not given one to you before.
:confusedshrug: ???
weird.

[Kappy]

hey, I went to rep you and it said I had to spread out my reps before giving another one to you. ...but I had not given one to you before.
:confusedshrug: ???
weird.

I repped him for you!!!

:pimp:

[Lebron23]

I repped him for you!!!

:pimp:


:cheers:

[Kappy]

:cheers:

:cheers: .... It was well deserved!!!

[White Mamba]

repped:applause:

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

I repped him for you!!!

:pimp:

thank you.
it still won't let me rep Lebron23. strange.

so now I will rep you.... and then him...if it will let me.

[crisoner]

The Black Mamba takes no prisoners.

http://www.follow-me-now.de/assets/images/Kill_Bill_I.jpg

[Avaj]

Kobe :rockon: :bowdown: :applause:

[dazed27]

Kobe Bryant: The Most Hated And The Most Loved

Kobe Will Be A Top 5 At The End Of His Career

[YoungMula]

top 5 performances, you forgot the 62 in three quarters against the mavericks, more points then the whole dallas team had (61)... dude is unreal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJNoFs3G91A

[BlackMamba24]

Kobe Bryant: The Most Hated And The Most Loved


aka the GOAT.

[Leviathon1121]

aka the GOAT.

Kobe is indeed one of the greatest players ever to play this game, can't deny it, but what exactly has he done to warrant a GOAT tag? I know you and Alpha Wolf are just trolls who come here from LG.net from time to time, but seriously is an 81 point game all it takes for some people to label a player the GOAT?

[Ruslan`]

I don't appreciate anyone who forces women to have sex with them against her will

[mongePR(kb24)]

I don't appreciate anyone who forces women to have sex with them against her will

and you believed that gold digger.

[phoenix18]

Kobe Will Be A Top 5 At The End Of His Career
No. Stop smoking crack.

[BlackMamba24]

No. Stop smoking crack.
:roll: @ this fan of the "Canswer." You mad? Kobe is easily the GOAT. 81 point game, 62 in 3 quarters, MVP, 3 rings (gonna be 4 soon), 11x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, youngest player to score 20k points, 24 50 point games, 9 consecutive 40 point games, 4 consecutive 50 point games and the list goes on and on.

How does it feel that your favorite player is a career loser and makes every team worse?

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

:roll: @ this fan of the "Canswer." You mad? Kobe is easily the GOAT. 81 point game, 62 in 3 quarters, MVP, 3 rings (gonna be 4 soon), 11x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, youngest player to score 20k points, 24 50 point games, 9 consecutive 40 point games, 4 consecutive 50 point games and the list goes on and on.

How does it feel that your favorite player is a career loser and makes every team worse?

and yet..ALL of that does not make him GOAT... GOAT is merely opinion.
It DOES make him 1st ballot HOF

[dazed27]

No. Stop smoking crack.

think about it???

kobe is 30!!!! if all goes good he will have his 4th ring..

that means he still has another good 3 to 4 years to go and get as many rings as he can....

so top 5 is acceptable for kobe once he retires

[Roundball_Rock]

I don't appreciate anyone who forces women to have sex with them against her will

Neither do I--but what does Mike Tyson have to do with this? :confusedshrug:

Kobe has a legit shot at moving up to 4th or 5th all-time if he wins two more rings. Only MJ, Kareem, and Wilt are beyond his reach.

[Leviathon1121]

:roll: @ this fan of the "Canswer." You mad? Kobe is easily the GOAT. 81 point game, 62 in 3 quarters, MVP, 3 rings (gonna be 4 soon), 11x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, youngest player to score 20k points, 24 50 point games, 9 consecutive 40 point games, 4 consecutive 50 point games and the list goes on and on.

How does it feel that your favorite player is a career loser and makes every team worse?

Yes, we have established that Kobe is an all time great player, but that list is dwarfed by the resume's of other players, so how is he easily the GOAT?

[phoenix18]

:roll: @ this fan of the "Canswer." You mad? Kobe is easily the GOAT. 81 point game, 62 in 3 quarters, MVP, 3 rings (gonna be 4 soon), 11x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, youngest player to score 20k points, 24 50 point games, 9 consecutive 40 point games, 4 consecutive 50 point games and the list goes on and on.

How does it feel that your favorite player is a career loser and makes every team worse?
So is he better than MJ? The Big O? Wilt? Magic? Bird? Malone? Barkley? Kareem? I'll answer that for you. NO.

[D-Rose]

So is he better than MJ? The Big O? Wilt? Magic? Bird? Malone? Barkley? Kareem? I'll answer that for you. NO.
Yeah, Kobe is better than Barkley. And if he isn't now, by the end of his career he's going to be ahead of Barkley, Malone, and Oscar for sure.

[phoenix18]

Yeah, Kobe is better than Barkley. And if he isn't now, by the end of his career he's going to be ahead of Barkley, Malone, and Oscar for sure.
Wow. Are serious?

[D-Rose]

Wow. Are serious?
Kobe's accomplishments will speak for themselves. More rings than those 3 combined already.

[phoenix18]

Kobe's accomplishments will speak for themselves. More rings than those 3 combined already.
:D When did championships determine individual worth? If that was the case, Terrell Davis would be better than Barry Sanders. According to your logic, Tyronne Lou is better than Charles Barkley because he has more rings.

[D-Rose]

:D When did championships determine individual worth? If that was the case, Terrell Davis would be better than Barry Sanders. According to your logic, Tyronne Lou is better than Charles Barkley because he has more rings.
Yeah ok, we're talking about as an All-star/superstar/MVP. Kobe isn't done winning awards and titles, those guys are. We'll see once Kobe retires, history will speak for itself.

[KenneBell]

:D When did championships determine individual worth? If that was the case, Terrell Davis would be better than Barry Sanders. According to your logic, Tyronne Lou is better than Charles Barkley because he has more rings.
It's a combination of stats, accomplishments and championships. Football is not the same. Individual players don't have as big of an impact because they don't play on both sides of the ball.

[Fatal9]

Wow. Are serious?
Are YOU serious? Trying to sneak Oscar in front of Kobe and thinking you're not getting called out on it :oldlol:

[phoenix18]

Are YOU serious? Trying to sneak Oscar in front of Kobe and thinking you're not getting called out on it :oldlol:
I am honestly starting to think of hype as a fatal disease.

[YoungMula]

I am honestly starting to think of hype as a fatal disease.

Coming from someone that put Barkley in the same sentence as Micheal, Russell, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Kobe... Delusional Dumbassness might be the made up word to describe what your writing, if you want to talk about hype then that should be in a lebron thread

[phoenix18]

Coming from someone that put Barkley in the same sentence as Micheal, Russell, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Kobe... Delusional Dumbassness might be the made up word to describe what your writing, if you want to talk about hype then that should be in a lebron thread
:oldlol: Okay, Barkley is not a top ten player. So, what? You still didnt answer my question.

[flipogb]

I am honestly starting to think of hype as a fatal disease.
Im starting to think of hate /delusion as a fatal disease that YOU have

[phoenix18]

Look at all of my previous statements and tell me where I am wrong.

[Agent_Zero]

The guy's a real monster..and as a lot of people have said before, both here and on ESPN, is that this dude lived past the comparisons to McGrady, Carter and Iverson and is now surpassing those to Melo, Wade and Bron. Time after time, the media tries to portray match ups such as Bryant vs. Whoever. Well all six of those players are sitting at home and Kobe's playing in the Finals, most likely to get his fourth ring.

I like Kobe a lot...the only thing that irks me about the Lakers are their dumbass fans with the exception of a few.

[Roundball_Rock]

Yeah, Kobe is better than Barkley. And if he isn't now, by the end of his career he's going to be ahead of Barkley, Malone, and Oscar for sure.

He will be ahead of all those guys within two weeks imo.

[thuggets]

I am honestly starting to think of hype as a fatal disease.

you mind getting out of here. start a lame ass ai thread or something.

[Renegar]

Kobe's athletic abilities haven't declined a lot. Probably at about 85% of what he was when he was 18. He draws much more of the offensive and defensive attention now so he paces himself better. Remember: He could easily beat 2 or 3 guys offensively from a good college team at this very moment. He's still better than 99.9% of all men, conditioning wise.

[Lebron23]

2009 NBA Finals MVP.

[Avaj]

Nice way to shut up the haters!!! :D

[rs98762001]

He didn't shoot as well as he did in the last few series, and he still makes selfish plays that drive me insane, but Bryant is now a much deserved Finals MVP and champion as the central piece of a team. I wouldn't be surprised if another one follows next year. He's definitely moved up a couple of notches with regard to his position in NBA history with this championship.

[chopchop20]

He didn't shoot as well as he did in the last few series, and he still makes selfish plays that drive me insane, but Bryant is now a much deserved Finals MVP and champion as the central piece of a team. I wouldn't be surprised if another one follows next year. He's definitely moved up a couple of notches with regard to his position in NBA history with this championship.

Yeah the FG% was down, but you don't win it on paper. Kobe kept attacking and making plays for others. Good Finals performance.

[allball]

props to the Black Mamba

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

hard earned and much deserved.

[Kingwillball]

The guy's a real monster..and as a lot of people have said before, both here and on ESPN, is that this dude lived past the comparisons to McGrady, Carter and Iverson and is now surpassing those to Melo, Wade and Bron. Time after time, the media tries to portray match ups such as Bryant vs. Whoever. Well all six of those players are sitting at home and Kobe's playing in the Finals, most likely to get his fourth ring.

I like Kobe a lot...the only thing that irks me about the Lakers are their dumbass fans with the exception of a few.


You can say what you want Kobe is great yes..but Lebron if he isn't better already(which I think he is) but Lebron will be the best player in the NBA for the next 7 or 8 years so consider this Kobes fairwell tour this year.

[chopchop20]

You can say what you want Kobe is great yes..but Lebron if he isn't better already(which I think he is) but Lebron will be the best player in the NBA for the next 7 or 8 years so consider this Kobes fairwell tour this year.

Obviously LeBron is poised to take the torch -- I've always said that Bron could be the best ever. He needs to work on getting better. If LeBron brings his skills up to Kobe's level, he'll average 40 points per night.

[Pha Q]

Kobe is the best in the NBA until he retires.....

[Allstar24]

http://i39.tinypic.com/2mrz8fq.jpg

:pimp:

[HoopitUP]

http://i39.tinypic.com/2mrz8fq.jpg

:pimp:


kobe: "Shaq, how does my a$$ taste"

congrats to the lakers and kobe. well deserved. im not a kobe fan but respect given when respect is due:applause:

[sbw19]

You guys realize two years from now, Kobe will be the Lakers ALLTIME top scorer & will have the Lakers records for games played and steals?

That's right. Not Magic. Not Kareem. Not the Logo. Not Shaq. Kobe.

4 rings. MVP. Finals MVP. Allstars MVP. Guy has done it all.

That's the definition of a legend, right there. :applause:

[purple8gold]

Men are judged by how they rise from a big fall.

It's been an amazing journey for Kobe so far. What he's gone thru has made him who he is today. But one thing hasn't changed - his desire to win. :cheers:

[snipes12]

You guys realize two years from now, Kobe will be the Lakers ALLTIME top scorer & will have the Lakers records for games played and steals?

That's right. Not Magic. Not Kareem. Not the Logo. Not Shaq. Kobe.

4 rings. MVP. Finals MVP. Allstars MVP. Guy has done it all.

That's the definition of a legend, right there. :applause:

no rookie of the year award though he still sucks

anyways props to him :applause:

[purple8gold]

no rookie of the year award though he still sucks

anyways props to him :applause:

Ummm...you're ghey.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[chopchop20]

I remember arguing in the college dorm rooms, back when he shot airballs against Utah. The kid looked like he had something special about him. Good to see him deliver that 4 trophy this decade.

[cotdt]

I am so proud of my team, the Lakers.

[cotdt]

You can say what you want Kobe is great yes..but Lebron if he isn't better already(which I think he is) but Lebron will be the best player in the NBA for the next 7 or 8 years so consider this Kobes fairwell tour this year.

Sure.

[PowerGlove]

I am so proud of my team, the Lakers.
You gotta be kidding me.

[LA_Showtime]

Doesn't he get appreciated enough?

[jdem]

Dear Kobe,

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae246/GhostInAShell/funny/clap.gif

[RonRon37]

Kobe always plays his best ball In the conference finals , finals etc.... Kobe is the greatest player to ever play the game.

[AirGauge23]

Kobe always plays his best ball In the conference finals , finals etc.... Kobe is the greatest player to ever play the game.

Where is the white text?

[ShaqAttack3234]

Where is the white text?

That's just Charlie Z, the punch drunk idiot who calls himself a pro fighter yet he lost to a guy 0-13 in a fight that took place in a junior high gym. :roll:

[Bigsmoke]

there are atleast 3 Kobe Bryant Appreciation Threads a day

[LA KB24]

Kobe is the greatest player to ever play the game.
F*ck no.

Don't be ignorant.

[purple32gold]

his jumpshot is beautiful. ive grown up watchin this fool since i was 8 years old and to see the type of player he is now is really amazing. i ****ing love kobe bryant.

[Apples]

The Force is strong within Obi Wan Kobe.

[Yung D-Will]

Kobe is the greatest player to ever play the game.
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These 9 players say hi

[KingLeBronJames]

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These 9 players say hi
Honestly, LeBron would own all of them. Especially Michael.

[Yung D-Will]

Honestly, LeBron would own all of them. Especially Michael.

Lol that's funny cause all these players have done something that Lebron hasn't and thats actually win something

[KingLeBronJames]

Lol that's funny cause all these players have done something that Lebron hasn't and thats actually win something
Ok, you look at the skills and the stats, LeBron is better than half of these guys. With Kobe looking his skill level, stats and winning championships, he's probably top 5. LeBron will dethrone Kobe next year. He'll come back with a vengeance!

[Yung D-Will]

Ok, you look at the skills and the stats, LeBron is better than half of these guys. With Kobe looking his skill level, stats and winning championships, he's probably top 5. LeBron will dethrone Kobe next year. He'll come back with a vengeance!

1. Kobe's hardly top 10
2. What do stats mean? All of these players had great individual stats but elevated their games when it mattered and won championships.
3. Kobe top 5 :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Lebron puts up empty stats

[Yung D-Will]

Ok, you look at the skills and the stats, LeBron is better than half of these guys. With Kobe looking his skill level, stats and winning championships, he's probably top 5. LeBron will dethrone Kobe next year. He'll come back with a vengeance!

Wait Wait Wait Wait. Did you just say Lebron had better stats then wilt :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[KingLeBronJames]

Wait Wait Wait Wait. Did you just say Lebron had better stats then wilt :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
I'm not saying LeBron has better stats than Wilt. When I first said LeBron is better than half of these men is because some of these guys played in a weak era, different rules or I think their skill level is not that great. That's just my opinion. Kareem, he played a good era in the 70's an 80's. He put up great stats, won awards and won 1 NBA title. But couldn't win it again until he had Magic. That's why I would rank LeBron higher than Kareem.

[mlh1981]

He's a solid player.

[Bigsmoke]

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These 9 players say hi

Shaq had the lamest quote.

[Yung D-Will]

Shaq had the lamest quote.

Wilt by farrrrr

[Disaprine]

Honestly, LeBron would own all of them. Especially Michael.
http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/l/lol_cat-12926.jpg

[KAJ=GOAT]

I'm not saying LeBron has better stats than Wilt. When I first said LeBron is better than half of these men is because some of these guys played in a weak era, different rules or I think their skill level is not that great. That's just my opinion. Kareem, he played a good era in the 70's an 80's. He put up great stats, won awards and won 1 NBA title. But couldn't win it again until he had Magic. That's why I would rank LeBron higher than Kareem.


Kareem played against 37 of the NBAs 50 greatest players of all time.

What about his era was exactly weak?

Heres another question as well.

What did Magic win without Kareem?

[Doranku]

Should we change this thread to "R.I.P. Lebron23"?

Dude has like 100k posts yet is nowhere to be found ever since LeBron lost. I think it's safe to say he's no longer with us. :violin: :violin: :violin:

[SourGrapes]

Honestly, LeBron would own all of them. Especially Michael.

not before he develops a post game and a midrange jumper. pretty straightforward when you're a basketball player

[RazorBaLade]

Should we change this thread to "R.I.P. Lebron23"?

Dude has like 100k posts yet is nowhere to be found ever since LeBron lost. I think it's safe to say he's no longer with us. :violin: :violin: :violin:

lolol

[AirJordan&Magic]

I'm not saying LeBron has better stats than Wilt. When I first said LeBron is better than half of these men is because some of these guys played in a weak era, different rules or I think their skill level is not that great. That's just my opinion. Kareem, he played a good era in the 70's an 80's. He put up great stats, won awards and won 1 NBA title. But couldn't win it again until he had Magic. That's why I would rank LeBron higher than Kareem.

You kid, are a moron.

[Desperado]

Should we change this thread to "R.I.P. Lebron23"?

Dude has like 100k posts yet is nowhere to be found ever since LeBron lost. I think it's safe to say he's no longer with us. :violin: :violin: :violin:

I see he changed his title to ''2011 NBA Finals MVP'' from ''2010 NBA Finals MVP'' :oldlol:

Like last year it was ''2009 NBA Finals MVP'' and before that he had it as ''2008 NBA Finals MVP'' and when he joined the site he had it as ''2007 NBA Finals MVP'' :roll:

[indiefan24]

Should we change this thread to "R.I.P. Lebron23"?

Dude has like 100k posts yet is nowhere to be found ever since LeBron lost. I think it's safe to say he's no longer with us. :violin: :violin: :violin:

He's out there... Last Activity: Today 03:15 PM

[PowerGlove]

I see he changed his title to ''2011 NBA Finals MVP'' from ''2010 NBA Finals MVP'' :oldlol:

Like last year it was ''2009 NBA Finals MVP'' and before that he had it as ''2008 NBA Finals MVP'' and when he joined the site he had it as ''2007 NBA Finals MVP'' :roll:

People cannot be optimistic now? Damn, get off his jock already.

[Desperado]

People cannot be optimistic now? Damn, get off his jock already.



http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/51/el1oo2.jpg

[Jailblazers7]

Was this thread honestly necessary?

If there is going to be an appreciation thread it should be about someone who doesn't get the appreciation they deserve. Like a Jeff Green Appreciation thread, not Kobe.

[jstern]

I am glad that I watched him evolve into a great player since he was drafted by the Hornets straight from HS, and then he was traded to the Los Angeles Lakers.

The only problem with Kobe is that most of his fans don't know that about him, that he was drafted by the Hornets, and then traded to the Lakers. Most of his fans are just ignorant teenagers.

[jstern]

People cannot be optimistic now? Damn, get off his jock already.
Some people have to live through others, unfortunately that's the type of fans Kobe attracts, and that's why you get a "You Mad" picture of Kobe, because part of the person who posted it believes Kobe's achievements are his.

[Yung D-Will]

Should we change this thread to "R.I.P. Lebron23"?

Dude has like 100k posts yet is nowhere to be found ever since LeBron lost. I think it's safe to say he's no longer with us. :violin: :violin: :violin:

What are you talking about he's right here

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174583&page=4

[Yung D-Will]

What are you talking about he's right here

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174583&page=4
We were talking in that thread like yesterday just check the last page.

[cotdt]

The only problem with Kobe is that most of his fans don't know that about him, that he was drafted by the Hornets, and then traded to the Lakers. Most of his fans are just ignorant teenagers.

All of Lakers' best players have been from trades. Only Bynum was drafted. A team as prestigious as the Lakers builds the team via trades that's why we will be strong forever. This will be our 31st NBA Finals appearance, thanks to Kobe!

[thejumpa]

I wish there was a way that we could find out when everybody on here started watching Kobe. Was it 1996-2000 or 2006? The "You mad" pictures and references to rings/LeBron/MJ are lame and childish. Kids...

[crisoner]

Win another title this year Kobe and your career is complete. Anything else will be icing on the cake!

GO LAKES!!!!!

[jstern]

All of Lakers' best players have been from trades. Only Bynum was drafted. A team as prestigious as the Lakers builds the team via trades that's why we will be strong forever. This will be our 31st NBA Finals appearance, thanks to Kobe!
That wasn't the point of my comment. The point was that so many of his fans are somewhat ignorant of Kobe Bryant, since they're too young to have followed his career. They don't even have memory of Shaq as a Laker and bash him pretty bad. Many of them are bandwagon fans also who just want to associate with a winner. Simmilar to many Bulls fans in the 90s. In fact I would say 90% plus of the teenager in my school back in the 90s were Bulls fans, rather than Knicks fan, to the point that I would get surprised during Knicks home games when the crowd would cheer for them. They care less about basketball and more about associating with a winner. How can a basketball fan in New York cheer for the Bulls when the only team on TV on a daily bases were the Knicks???

[LA_Showtime]

The only problem with Kobe is that most of his fans don't know that about him, that he was drafted by the Hornets, and then traded to the Lakers. Most of his fans are just ignorant teenagers.

Why does that matter? Answer: it doesn't. Kobe still carved out his career as a Laker. He began as a Laker, rose to fame as a Laker, and will probably retire as a Laker.

[RedBlackAttack]

I really feel bad for those of you that can't sit back and enjoy brilliance on the basketball court due to some hero worship rivalry that trumps everything. Kobe is a treat to watch and I'm glad to see that those pronouncing his decline during the regular season have been put in their place.

Awesome player. Nothing else really needs to be said.

[LA_Showtime]

I really feel bad for those of you that can't sit back and enjoy brilliance on the basketball court due to some hero worship rivalry that trumps everything. Kobe is a treat to watch and I'm glad to see that those pronouncing his decline during the regular season have been put in their place.

Awesome player. Nothing else really needs to be said.

Did you know the Q in Lincoln, Nebraska, is a gay dance club where both straight and homosexual college students frequently visit on the weekends? Something tells me that's not the Q you're talking about in your profile...

[cotdt]

That wasn't the point of my comment. The point was that so many of his fans are somewhat ignorant of Kobe Bryant, since they're too young to have followed his career. They don't even have memory of Shaq as a Laker and bash him pretty bad. Many of them are bandwagon fans also who just want to associate with a winner. Simmilar to many Bulls fans in the 90s. In fact I would say 90% plus of the teenager in my school back in the 90s were Bulls fans, rather than Knicks fan, to the point that I would get surprised during Knicks home games when the crowd would cheer for them. They care less about basketball and more about associating with a winner. How can a basketball fan in New York cheer for the Bulls when the only team on TV on a daily bases were the Knicks???

That's human nature dude, to associate with a winner. Sports teams are like mini-armies, you associate with a loser then you and your family dies after your guys are defeated and taken over by the stronger army. You need heroes to rally your army and win! You have to compare which hero is better, so you can follow the right one and not be lead to your deaths by a weak hero.

We need to appreciate our heroes and understand what makes them great, that's how our ancestors survived for 40,000 years.

[Doranku]

He's out there... Last Activity: Today 03:15 PM

He got hacked, imo. Either that or he's on this site looking for dating, which is just as bad.

I mean, look at his bio:

Biography:
I am handsome, cool, sexy and hot, 6'3 3/4 player from the South

[RedBlackAttack]

Did you know the Q in Lincoln, Nebraska, is a gay dance club where both straight and homosexual college students frequently visit on the weekends? Something tells me that's not the Q you're talking about in your profile...
Yes, I did know that and... Yes, that is what I'm referring to.

[LA KB24]

Honestly, LeBron would own all of them. Especially Michael.
Kill yourself.

[Lebron23]

He's the best perimeter player since Prime Michael Jordan. I am now rooting for the Lakers because I want to see Kobe win his 2nd NBA Finals MVP. Lakers fans needs to needs to be humble and stay humble if the Lakers win the NBA Championship this year.

The Kobe Trolls are the no.1 reason why Kobe was one of the most hated players in this forum.

Stop comparing him to Prime Michael Jordan

[TheLogo]

He's the best perimeter player since Prime Michael Jordan. I am now rooting for the Lakers because I want to see Kobe win his 2nd NBA Finals MVP. Lakers fans needs to needs to be humble and stay humble if the Lakers win the NBA Championship this year.

The Kobe Trolls are the no.1 reason why Kobe was one of the most hated players in this forum.

Stop comparing him to Prime Michael Jordan

As great as Michael Jordan was, I think Kobe and MJ are closer than you guys want. I would give the slight advantage to Kobe because he has so many ways to score.

There isn't that big of a difference than what MJ fans would like there to be.

[OldSchoolBBall]

As great as Michael Jordan was, I think Kobe and MJ are closer than you guys want. I would give the slight advantage to Kobe because he has so many ways to score.

There isn't that big of a difference than what MJ fans would like there to be.

Prime Jordan (1990-'93) is about 10% better than Kobe on an average day for each of them. lol @ giving Kobe the edge. :oldlol:

[YouGotServed]

Here's my token of appreciation....
Every Kobe thread ever made

http://www.insidehoops.com/basketball-info.shtml?cx=partner-pub-2183605478677227%3Abq38row01wc&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=kobe&sa=Search#909

[LA_Showtime]

Yes, I did know that and... Yes, that is what I'm referring to.

I knew it.

[ShaqAttack3234]

As great as Michael Jordan was, I think Kobe and MJ are closer than you guys want. I would give the slight advantage to Kobe because he has so many ways to score.

There isn't that big of a difference than what MJ fans would like there to be.

No, by more ways, you mean Kobe had a bit more range? Jordan had better shot selection, he was better off the ball, he was better at getting to the rim, he was more aggressive attacking the basket and due to his superior athleticism, he was a better finisher. As a result, Jordan was a more consistent and effective scorer, hence his 10 scoring titles, superior regular season, playoff and finals scoring averages and superior FG%, TS% ect.

Jordan was also a better defender, stepped up more in the playoffs and he was a better passer/playmaker.

Jordan was CLEARLY better than Kobe. I respect Kobe a lot as a player and have nothing against him as a person, but he's clearly not as good as Jordan was. Definitely top 10 all time, IMO, though.

[laronprofit9]

I went through a few game logs of Kobe's playoff career. These are the best statistical series Kobe has had in his career during the playoffs. What do you think is his best performance in a playoff series? (look below)

2001 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Sacramento Kings

35.0 ppg 9.0 rpg 4.3 apg 47%fg 20%3P 86%FT

2001 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs

33.3 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.0 apg 51%fg 36%3P 77%FT

2003 1st Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Minnesota Timberwolves

31.8 ppg 5.2 rpg 6.7 apg 43%fg 36%3P 87%FT

2008 1st Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets

33.5 ppg 5.3 rpg 6.3 apg 50%fg 33%3P 74%FT

2008 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Utah Jazz

33.2 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.2 apg 49%fg 21%3P 83%FT

2008 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs

29.2 ppg 5.6 rpg 3.8 apg 53%fg 33%3P 91%FT

2009 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets

34.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 5.8 apg 48%fg 34%3P 93%FT

2009 NBA Finals Kobe Bryant vs Orlando Magic

32.4 ppg 5.6 rpg 7.4 apg 43%fg 36%3P 84%FT

2010 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Utah Jazz

32.0 ppg 3.8 rpg 5.8 apg 52%fg 25%3P 87%FT

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Jacks3]

I have to laugh at dudes taking the time to rebut Kobe>Jordan arguments.

[Jacks3]

I went through a few game logs of Kobe's playoff career. These are the best statistical series Kobe has had in his career during the playoffs. What do you think is his best performance in a playoff series? (look below)

2001 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Sacramento Kings

35.0 ppg 9.0 rpg 4.3 apg 47%fg 20%3P 86%FT

2001 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs

33.3 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.0 apg 51%fg 36%3P 77%FT

2003 1st Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Minnesota Timberwolves

31.8 ppg 5.2 rpg 6.7 apg 43%fg 36%3P 87%FT

2008 1st Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets

33.5 ppg 5.3 rpg 6.3 apg 50%fg 33%3P 74%FT

2008 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Utah Jazz

33.2 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.2 apg 49%fg 21%3P 83%FT

2008 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs

29.2 ppg 5.6 rpg 3.8 apg 53%fg 33%3P 91%FT

2009 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets

34.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 5.8 apg 48%fg 34%3P 93%FT

2009 NBA Finals Kobe Bryant vs Orlando Magic

32.4 ppg 5.6 rpg 7.4 apg 43%fg 36%3P 84%FT

2010 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Utah Jazz

32.0 ppg 3.8 rpg 5.8 apg 52%fg 25%3P 87%FT

:bowdown: :bowdown:
His 2006 series vs the Suns,2002 series vs Kings/Spurs, and 2002 NBA Finals should be up there too imo.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Gotta lol that Kobe only has three playoff series in his entire career where he averaged more ppg than Jordan's career playoff average (33.4 ppg). Kobe also only has one playoff series in his career (35 ppg vs. Sac) where he exceeded Jordan's pre-first retirement career playoff average (34.8 ppg, over 110 playoff games; 24 series in total), and he didn't shoot nearly as well (47% vs. MJ's 51+%).

Yet this is a guy that fanatics will try to argue is better than Jordan. Top 10? Yes, definitely. Likely to retire top 5-8 somewhere. A tremendous talent. Second best SG ever. Not nearly Jordan.

[Jacks3]

Hilarious. Loki is always complaining about Kobe fans "bringing up" Jordan, but here he is making comparisons between the two.:lol

[Micku]

Second greatest shooting guard. Probably the most skilled perimeter player in the league right now.


2009 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets

34.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 5.8 apg 48%fg 34%3P 93%FT


I forgot that he had those stats against them.

[ImmortalD24]

He's the best perimeter player since Prime Michael Jordan. I am now rooting for the Lakers because I want to see Kobe win his 2nd NBA Finals MVP. Lakers fans needs to needs to be humble and stay humble if the Lakers win the NBA Championship this year.

The Kobe Trolls are the no.1 reason why Kobe was one of the most hated players in this forum.

Stop comparing him to Prime Michael Jordan It's not only Kobe trolls who compare him to MJ though.

[laronprofit9]

Second greatest shooting guard. Probably the most skilled perimeter player in the league right now.



I forgot that he had those stats against them.

Lot of people forget because of Lebron's series against the magic.

But Kobe's series against the Nuggets is probably one of the most underrated performances of the last decade in Kobe's career.

Kobe put up 34 6 6 on 48%fg 34%3P 93% FT. One of Kobe's most efficient efforts against the Lakers toughest opponent imo on the 2009 title run. While also spending some time guarding Carmelo.

I think Kobe's series against the Nuggets was just as good as Lebron's series against the Magic. Kobe was guarding freaking Carmelo Anthony at times, and they were battling it out over the first 2 games. Before Kobe took over the last 4 and proved he was the better player. Kobe was also doing this in high altitude in Denver where players get more fatigued.

Statisticians will say otherwise, but Kobe was on par with Lebron's series against Orlando. :rant

[OldSchoolBBall]

Lot of people forget because of Lebron's series against the magic.

But Kobe's series against the Nuggets is probably one of the most underrated performances of the last decade in Kobe's career.

Kobe put up 34 6 6 on 48%fg 34%3P 93% FT. One of Kobe's most efficient efforts against the Lakers toughest opponent imo on the 2009 title run. While also spending some time guarding Carmelo.

I think Kobe's series against the Nuggets was just as good as Lebron's series against the Magic. Kobe was guarding freaking Carmelo Anthony at times, and they were battling it out over the first 2 games. Before Kobe took over the last 4 and proved he was the better player. Kobe was also doing this in high altitude in Denver where players get more fatigued.

Statisticians will say otherwise, but Kobe was on par with Lebron's series against Orlando. :rant

This post is a perfect example of why Kobe is the most overrated player ever. 34/5.8/5.8/48% against a non-noted defensive team is equal to 37/8/7/52% or whatever it was that Lebron posted against the #1 rated defense in the league? No.

[Freshprince619]

This post is a perfect example of why Kobe is the most overrated player ever. 34/5.8/5.8/48% against a non-noted defensive team is equal to 37/8/7/52% or whatever it was that Lebron posted against the #1 rated defense in the league? No.
Lol dont forget the part where he averaged 5 turnovers on shot in the upper 70% from the free throw line. And most important Kobe WON his series. Stats are irrelevant when you lose

[plowking]

This post is a perfect example of why Kobe is the most overrated player ever. 34/5.8/5.8/48% against a non-noted defensive team is equal to 37/8/7/52% or whatever it was that Lebron posted against the #1 rated defense in the league? No.

How convenient that you leave out the part where most wings had a field day against Orlando, as that was their whole defensive plan?

Wade averaged: 38/5/6 against Orlando in the regular season
Kobe averaged 35/11/7 against Orlando in the regular season
Roy averaged 29/6/5 against Orlando in the regular season
Carmelo averaged 29/8/2 against Orlando in the regular season.

Kobe's performance against Denver was more impressive.

[ginobli2311]

How convenient that you leave out the part where most wings had a field day against Orlando, as that was their whole defensive plan?

Wade averaged: 38/5/6 against Orlando in the regular season
Kobe averaged 35/11/7 against Orlando in the regular season
Roy averaged 29/6/5 against Orlando in the regular season
Carmelo averaged 29/8/2 against Orlando in the regular season.

Kobe's performance against Denver was more impressive.

I totally agree that Kobe's performance against the Nuggets is vastly under-rated. However.....a lot of you are missing the point on what made Lebron's performances so great. Lebron did what he did on a team with no help at all. Not only did the Cavs have far less talent than the Magic/Lakers....but all of Lebron's teammates no showed for that series against the Magic. Orlando knew it was going to be all Lebron and he still owned them in a way that really hasn't been seen since Jordan retired. While Kobe played great....having a legit team with options opens things up a lot for him and made his life a lot easier. Its much tougher to score efficiently and dominate the game if the team you are playing doesn't have to worry about the other players.

Its not a knock on Kobe. He's a great player.....but the fact is that the Cavs would never win a game at Orlando if Lebron went 11 for 31 for the field like Kobe did in the Game 4 win. That is why having a great team around you is so important....these players are not perfect and they have off nights sometimes....and they true championship caliber teams are able to overcome this.

[Rake2204]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1293/559925938_52350daadc_o.jpg

[Birmingham1955]

He's the best perimeter player since Prime Michael Jordan. I am now rooting for the Lakers because I want to see Kobe win his 2nd NBA Finals MVP. Lakers fans needs to needs to be humble and stay humble if the Lakers win the NBA Championship this year.

The Kobe Trolls are the no.1 reason why Kobe was one of the most hated players in this forum.

Stop comparing him to Prime Michael Jordan

Kobe>LeBron

[laronprofit9]

This post is a perfect example of why Kobe is the most overrated player ever. 34/5.8/5.8/48% against a non-noted defensive team is equal to 37/8/7/52% or whatever it was that Lebron posted against the #1 rated defense in the league? No.

Lebron Shot 48%Fg 29%3P 74%FT

Kobe Shot 48%FG 34%3P 93%FT

Lebron Average 15.6 FTA per game. (That's basically like 06 Finals Wade)
Kobe Average 12 FTA per game.

Lebron Average 25.6 FGA per game.
Kobe Average 21.8 FGA per game.

Kobe 2.16 TO per Game
Lebron 4.16 TO per Game

Kobe had arguably the more efficient series.

Lebron's volume stats were result of him just having the ball more in that series than Kobe.

Plus the Magic's gameplan was simply to let Lebron get his and shut everybody else down. A lot of wing players were putting up big games against the Magic that season. Yes they were a number #1 rated defense, but they hardly did anything to stop Lebron. Just look at all the stats that Wade, Kobe, Roy, and other great wings put against the Magic during the season.

Kobe had to play in a higher altitude area of Denver, where you get more fatigued. Guard a elite scorer in Carmelo Anthony on many possessions.

I don't know if Lebron actually faced a tougher matchup individually. I say Kobe and Lebron played under the same amount of defensive pressure. I'm pretty sure SVG admitted to letting LBJ get his and just lock down everybody else.

The Cavaliers faced a tougher team defense than the Lakers.
Kobe and Lebron individually probably had equally difficult matchups considering the fact Kobe had to guard a player the caliber of Carmelo Anthony in high altitude on several possessions where Lebron was simply a roamer most of the Orlando series.

Kobe's 2009 WCF was on par with Lebron's 2009 ECF. IMO

[Roundball_Rock]

Hilarious. Loki is always complaining about Kobe fans "bringing up" Jordan, but here he is making comparisons between the two.:lol

:oldlol:

I love how he throws out ppg when comparing Jordan to modern stars and never mentions FGA. Jordan took more FGA and consumed more of his team's possessions than anyone in history! He never mentions these minor details, although he is quick to point out pace for Wilt or Kareem vs. Jordan. Imagine if Lebron decided to lead the league in FGA year after year (MJ did it 9x and 10x if you count 95' and even in 02' he was #2 behind AI!)...

[rs98762001]

Bryant is playing phenomenal basketball right now. I was one of the many who thought during the regular season that LeBron had clearly surpassed him as the game's greatest player. But if Kobe can keep playing this way for the rest of the playoffs and win another ring, I think it comes down to a matter of his increasing age dictating when he plays to his best ability. He can't physically do what Bron does (i.e. beast every single night) so he has to pick and choose his times to really exert his dominance. When he does, however, as he is doing right now, I don't think there's a player alive who's as good as him.

[Soothsayer]

:oldlol:

I love how he throws out ppg when comparing Jordan to modern stars and never mentions FGA. Jordan took more FGA and consumed more of his team's possessions than anyone in history! He never mentions these minor details, although he is quick to point out pace for Wilt or Kareem vs. Jordan. Imagine if Lebron decided to lead the league in FGA year after year (MJ did it 9x and 10x if you count 95' and even in 02' he was #2 behind AI!)...


No, Jordan did not have more FGA or FGA/game than anyone ever.

Elgin Baylor took 23.8 FGA per game career, more than Jordan.
Both Kareem and Karl Malone had more FGA career than Jordan as well.

Stop posting misinformation.

As well, part of Jordan's greatness was maintaining superb efficiency while having high volume. That is very difficult to do. As volume increases for most players, efficiency decreases. Thus, if LBJ increased his FGA, his efficiency would likely decrease.

[bladefd]

No, Jordan did not have more FGA or FGA/game than anyone ever.

Elgin Baylor took 23.8 FGA per game career, more than Jordan.
Both Kareem and Karl Malone had more FGA career than Jordan as well.

Stop posting misinformation.

As well, part of Jordan's greatness was maintaining superb efficiency while having high volume. That is very difficult to do. As volume increases for most players, efficiency decreases. Thus, if LBJ increased his FGA, his efficiency would likely decrease.

Roundballrock never said anything about Jordan leading in career FGA per game. He was referring to FGA per game on a yearly basis not career-wise.

Between 1989-1990 season and 1997-1998 season, Jordan lead the league in FGA for 7 out of the 9 years (1 of those years he was "retired").
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fga_yearly.html

btw here's the usage%: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/usg_pct_yearly.html

[Soothsayer]

Roundballrock never said anything about Jordan leading in career FGA per game. He was referring to FGA per game on a yearly basis not career-wise.

Between 1989-1990 season and 1997-1998 season, Jordan lead the league in FGA for 7 out of the 9 years (1 of those years he was "retired").
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fga_yearly.html

btw here's the usage%: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/usg_pct_yearly.html


No, what he said was:
"Jordan took more FGA and consumed more of his team's possessions than anyone in history!"

That is factually incorrect, as I showed.

[plowking]

Lebron Shot 48%Fg 29%3P 74%FT

Kobe Shot 48%FG 34%3P 93%FT

Lebron Average 15.6 FTA per game. (That's basically like 06 Finals Wade)
Kobe Average 12 FTA per game.

Lebron Average 25.6 FGA per game.
Kobe Average 21.8 FGA per game.

Kobe 2.16 TO per Game
Lebron 4.16 TO per Game

Kobe had arguably the more efficient series.

Lebron's volume stats were result of him just having the ball more in that series than Kobe.

Plus the Magic's gameplan was simply to let Lebron get his and shut everybody else down. A lot of wing players were putting up big games against the Magic that season. Yes they were a number #1 rated defense, but they hardly did anything to stop Lebron. Just look at all the stats that Wade, Kobe, Roy, and other great wings put against the Magic during the season.

Kobe had to play in a higher altitude area of Denver, where you get more fatigued. Guard a elite scorer in Carmelo Anthony on many possessions.

I don't know if Lebron actually faced a tougher matchup individually. I say Kobe and Lebron played under the same amount of defensive pressure. I'm pretty sure SVG admitted to letting LBJ get his and just lock down everybody else.

The Cavaliers faced a tougher team defense than the Lakers.
Kobe and Lebron individually probably had equally difficult matchups considering the fact Kobe had to guard a player the caliber of Carmelo Anthony in high altitude on several possessions where Lebron was simply a roamer most of the Orlando series.

Kobe's 2009 WCF was on par with Lebron's 2009 ECF. IMO

Agree with everything except the last sentence.

Kobe's was better.

[EastCaliChillin]

Lebron Shot 48%Fg 29%3P 74%FT

Kobe Shot 48%FG 34%3P 93%FT

Lebron Average 15.6 FTA per game. (That's basically like 06 Finals Wade)
Kobe Average 12 FTA per game.

Lebron Average 25.6 FGA per game.
Kobe Average 21.8 FGA per game.

Kobe 2.16 TO per Game
Lebron 4.16 TO per Game

Kobe had arguably the more efficient series.

Lebron's volume stats were result of him just having the ball more in that series than Kobe.

Plus the Magic's gameplan was simply to let Lebron get his and shut everybody else down. A lot of wing players were putting up big games against the Magic that season. Yes they were a number #1 rated defense, but they hardly did anything to stop Lebron. Just look at all the stats that Wade, Kobe, Roy, and other great wings put against the Magic during the season.

Kobe had to play in a higher altitude area of Denver, where you get more fatigued. Guard a elite scorer in Carmelo Anthony on many possessions.

I don't know if Lebron actually faced a tougher matchup individually. I say Kobe and Lebron played under the same amount of defensive pressure. I'm pretty sure SVG admitted to letting LBJ get his and just lock down everybody else.

The Cavaliers faced a tougher team defense than the Lakers.
Kobe and Lebron individually probably had equally difficult matchups considering the fact Kobe had to guard a player the caliber of Carmelo Anthony in high altitude on several possessions where Lebron was simply a roamer most of the Orlando series.

Kobe's 2009 WCF was on par with Lebron's 2009 ECF. IMO
Great post :applause: :applause:
Kobe's was obviously better. Oldschoolbball will now disappear from this thread. Add the fact Lakers won in 6 and Cleveland lost in 6 and there really isnt a competition

[Allstar24]

This post is a perfect example of why Kobe is the most overrated player ever. 34/5.8/5.8/48% against a non-noted defensive team is equal to 37/8/7/52% or whatever it was that Lebron posted against the #1 rated defense in the league? No.
F*ck off Loki. What's your problem anyway? You're always running your mouth but once someone sets you right, you disappear. Punk.

[lakerHater]

He got hacked, imo. Either that or he's on this site looking for dating, which is just as bad.

I mean, look at his bio:

Biography:
I am handsome, cool, sexy and hot, 6'3 3/4 player from the South

How come when you view a public file you cant view all post made by that person?

[Lakers13]

http://img10.abload.de/img/nike2_1_1vfba.gif

[LA KB24]

Lol at this thread.

[insidious301]

Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
This post is a perfect example of why Kobe is the most overrated player ever. 34/5.8/5.8/48% against a non-noted defensive team is equal to 37/8/7/52% or whatever it was that Lebron posted against the #1 rated defense in the league? No.

Great post.

[SAKOTXA]

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Lol at Kobe trying to be like Ronaldinho, what commercial is this?

[Yung D-Will]

"Love me or hate me, it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved, for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant

[LA_Showtime]

"Love me or hate me, it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved, for the exact same reasons." - Kobe Bryant

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Love me or hate me... etc etc ... - Nike

[DTD]

Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
This post is a perfect example of why Kobe is the most overrated player ever. 34/5.8/5.8/48% against a non-noted defensive team is equal to 37/8/7/52% or whatever it was that Lebron posted against the #1 rated defense in the league? No.


Great post.

I usually refrain from this OT; but still bumping your own posts after all these years still gets me laughing. The shtick continues.