Best Shooting Guards in 4 Years

[lilojmayo]

predict the top 5 shooting guards in 4 years time

1. O.J. Mayo
2. Brandon Roy
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Eric Gordon

[ganja0710]

Brandon Roy in a landslide. OJ Mayo is nowhere near close there bud. Sorry to break it to ya.

[oh the horror]

I honestly dont think Kobe will be among the top 5 in 4 years. Thats a lot of wearing down on his body by that point. He'll be good, but not one of the BEST in the league. Those knees are wearing thin.

[Aidan]

1)Brandon Roy
2)Dwyane Wade
3)Kobe Bryant
4)OJ Mayo
5)Eric Gordon

[Godfather]

predict the top 5 shooting guards in 4 years time

1. O.J. Mayo
2. Brandon Roy
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Eric Gordon

Fail.


OJ Mayo is a undersized volume shooter. Good luck proving to anyone that is better than a SG who passes as well he scores, a willy vet who does everything, and an aging all star whose experience makes him vital on an excellent team.

[Mississippi]

I don't see how Eric Gordon is any different from Ben Gordon. Same player imo.

[KeylessEntry]

I think its going to be Roy or Wade. Mayo might catch up but it will take him more than 4 years.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

1. Wade
2. Roy
3. Kobe
4. Mayo

[Godfather]

I don't see how Eric Gordon is any different from Ben Gordon. Same player imo.

Except one is an athletic freak.

[Mississippi]

You guys do realize Wade will be 31 in four years right?

[qrich]

With the way Wade plays(constant rim attacking), I can't see him being top 5 in 4 years honestly. He's already 27 and will be 31 in 4 years.

Kobe might be, but I don't think he'll be on a top 5 list either, unless someone goes by the reputation he has. He'll be 35 in 4 years.

DeRozen, Gordon, Mayo, Roy and Monta Ellis will be the 5 in no particular order.


I don't see how Eric Gordon is any different from Ben Gordon. Same player imo.

Besides last names and both being solid undersized shooters, I don't really see many similarities between the two.

[MMM]

Wade
Roy
Joe Johnson
Kobe
Mayo

[jrong]

By 2013? Probably Brandon Roy.

[craiye]

With the way Wade plays(constant rim attacking), I can't see him being top 5 in 4 years honestly. He's already 27 and will be 31 in 4 years.

Kobe might be, but I don't think he'll be on a top 5 list either, unless someone goes by the reputation he has. He'll be 35 in 4 years.

DeRozen, Gordon, Mayo, Roy and Monta Ellis will be the 5 in no particular order.

Besides last names and both being solid undersized shooters, I don't really see many similarities between the two.

Wade's already showing he can expand his game. His 3pt shot is better than it's ever been, and he's shooting it more than he ever has. When his athleticism goes I believe Wade will still be smart enough to draw contact, and he already has a nice mid-range game with an improving 3pt shot.

Wade will still be a top SG in 4 years, with or without the explosiveness he has now. He'll adapt.

[Biddy77]

I don't see how Eric Gordon is any different from Ben Gordon. Same player imo.

look at their shooting breakdown.... where they shoot from, how well they shoot from each area, the rate at which they draw fouls, etc.

eric gordon takes almost 1/3 of his attempts within 5 feet of the bucket. that's very aggressive, and he's finishing around 57% of his inside attempts.

ben gordon is a *far* better midrange player/shooter--but only takes about 1/5 of his attempts inside, and finishes at a 52% rate inside.

their 3%, fg%, and ft% all look very similar, until you look at how they go about achieving those numbers. eric gordon is just about as aggressive attacking the rim as dwyane wade and brandon roy.

[nbastatus]

Ray Allen.

[AznTacoLover]

Wade :he'll be old but he'll learn to play old already got a good mid range game.
Roy :guy can do it all score pass rebound and play some D
Gordon: bro got some potential and an athletic freak.

[plowking]

Wade will be 31, just exiting his prime. So I'll say either him or Brandon Roy.

[TMT]

No Kevin Martin love? He is an animal and I feel he still isn't at his best yet.

[Lebron23]

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Brandon Roy
3. OJ Mayo
4. Eric Gordon
5. Demar Derozan
6. James Harden
7. Andre Iguodala
8. Kevin Martin
9. Tyreke Evans
10. Gerald Henderson

[bruceblitz]

Michael Jordan!!!

just kidding, just kidding, :D

Most likely D Wade, maybe OJ Mayo, but who knows.

The NBA, where injuries and up-and-comers happens.

4 years is too far off. Who would think that D Wade would be ranked over Kobe by so many fans, as a shooting guard, just based on this season? Who would have thought that last year? Just shows you how much things change year to year. I'll leave it at that.

[Al Thornton]

1. Roy
2. Wade
3. Gordon
4. Mayo
5. Martin

EDIT: oh yeah forgot Kevin Martin.

[Al Thornton]

I don't see how Eric Gordon is any different from Ben Gordon. Same player imo.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[qrich]

No love for Monta? Really? I'd understand if you consider him a point, but otherwise?

[Killbot]

1. Brandon Roy
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Kevin Martin
4. OJ Mayo
5. Eric Gordon

[All Net]

Due to Kobe's style of play I see no reason why he won't still be considered one of the best in the league even at age 34/35..

[dafunkphenom]

It will be out of Dwayne Wade or Brandon Roy for the MVP of SG's

[dafunkphenom]

Due to Kobe's style of play I see no reason why he won't still be considered one of the best in the league even at age 34/35..
34 is the NBA wall dude. Guys like KG and Duncan both only have a season at most at being considered in the NBA elite. The drop off happens fast.

[All Net]

34 is the NBA wall dude. Guys like KG and Duncan both only have a season at most at being considered in the NBA elite. The drop off happens fast.

If Ray Allen can still be a star guard at age 32/33 so can Kobe at 34...you forget that Kobe doesn't depend on jumping abilty to get his points...he is a very smart player who will still be able to average 20PPG by then...although If Bynum develops Kobe won't need do much. In 4 years Bynum will be only 25

[qrich]

If Ray Allen can still be a star guard at age 32/33 so can Kobe at 34...you forget that Kobe doesn't depend on jumping abilty to get his points...he is a very smart player who will still be able to average 20PPG by then...although If Bynum develops Kobe won't need do much. In 4 years Bynum will be only 25

So your telling me someone that scores 20PPG is a top 5 at their position?

Just because Ray Allen is an All-Star also means nothing. Is he a top 5 SG? No he isn't, and odds are greatly against Kobe being a top 5 SF at the age of 35.

[jumpstarter]

brandon roy are you kidding me? hes good but not best sg in nba good
there will probably be some new kid youve never heard of but kobe will still be up there.

[iDunk]

1. Dwayne Wade
2. Brandan Roy
3. OJ Mayo
4. Kevin Martin
5. Wilson Chandler (started playing SG now)

[dafunkphenom]

brandon roy are you kidding me? hes good but not best sg in nba good
there will probably be some new kid youve never heard of but kobe will still be up there.
He's clearly the 3rd best now at 24. He'll be in prime at 28 then. I'm not kidding you, he'll be best or second best. Oneof the smartest too I might add because he finished school.

[inclinerator]

wade omg cant believe some of u guys saying roy over wade

[xOShakespearexO]

One thinks thee.

1. Brandon Roy
2. Dwyane Wade
3. O.J. Mayo
4. Kevin Martin
5. Eric Gordon

[shawbryant]

I honestly dont think Kobe will be among the top 5 in 4 years. Thats a lot of wearing down on his body by that point. He'll be good, but not one of the BEST in the league. Those knees are wearing thin.
Did you have the same thought on MJ before he played his last 4years?

[shortlunatic]

Due to Kobe's style of play I see no reason why he won't still be considered one of the best in the league even at age 34/35..

then you are a blind homer...seriously

[bdreason]

I don't see how Eric Gordon is any different from Ben Gordon. Same player imo.

Eric Gordon is pretty much better at everything.

[Lakers13]

Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy
Kobe Bryant
OJ Mayo
Kevin Martin

Dwyane will be at the peak of his prime, Roy will just be in the middle of his. Kobe will be on the downside of his career, but still will be productive and more likely on a winning team. OJ will just be hitting his prime years and Kevin can go as far as 2-3 but it depends on his surrounding cast and health.

[jinsanity]

Due to Kobe's style of play I see no reason why he won't still be considered one of the best in the league even at age 34/35..

True, Jordan at 35 was still the best player in the game. Therefore its not farfetched that a 34 year old Kobe will be ONE OF the top players in the game, although unlike Jordan, I don't think he will be THE TOP player.

[Istealfrombums]

1. Roy (28) - He would be in his prime and if he keeps his current level of gameplay I believe he would be considered the best.
2. Wade (31) - He would be a little older than current Kobe, so I believe he will still be on a high level but will have lost some of his athleticism.
3. Kobe Bryant (34) - His skillset and his improving post game would keep him on a competitive level.
4. Monta Ellis (27) - He should be right in his athletic prime and should be the #1 option on his team.
5. Kevin Martin (30) - He should be able to improve his play as long as he improves his Mid Range FG%

Consolation. O.J. Mayo - He will only be 25 ,so he would be entering his prime. I would say he has a chance of being #4-5 if any injuries occur or those two stop improving now.

[bdreason]

Wade
Roy
Gordon
Kobe
Mayo

[Vipertonna]

1. Courtney lee

[Al Thornton]

No love for Monta? Really? I'd understand if you consider him a point, but otherwise?

hes a pg imo

[Al Thornton]

34 is the NBA wall dude. Guys like KG and Duncan both only have a season at most at being considered in the NBA elite. The drop off happens fast.

Marcus Camby????

[w00terz]

1. Wade
2. Roy
3. JR Smith
4. Kobe

:rockon:

[Al Thornton]

1. Wade
2. Roy
3. JR Smith
4. Kobe

:rockon:
:roll:

[loot]

People saying Eric Gordon is like Ben Gordon have no idea. Eric Gordon is already a way more physical player, plays better defense and hasn't shown the clutchness Ben has. It's just THE thing to say because they share a last name.

[Papaya Petee]

Lol at 31 a Prime Wade will be doing what he is now, no way in hell unless having a bad injury Roy will be better then him, I can see Roy being a 27, 6 and 7 player in his prime but he will not be better then Dwyane

[-M-I]

Lol at 31 a Prime Wade will be doing what he is now, no way in hell unless having a bad injury Roy will be better then him, I can see Roy being a 27, 6 and 7 player in his prime but he will not be better then Dwyane

I know which is why I'm baffled at people even putting Roy above Wade.

[BBall Allstar]

1. Wade
2. Mayo
3. Roy
4. Tony Allen :roll:

[Papaya Petee]

I know which is why I'm baffled at people even putting Roy above Wade.


Don't get me wrong I love waching Roy, he is a great player and is a really smart basketball player, but I don't think he will simply be as good as Wade in 4 years. He should be better then Kobe because Kobe will be 35 years old, but Kobe is Kobe, and I think he can play till late 30's at a really efficient rate.

[PoGoMon]

predict the top 5 shooting guards in 4 years time

1. O.J. Mayo
2. Brandon Roy
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Eric Gordon

Predictions are fun for some of us - but that is all they are - fun to make.

1. O.J. Mayo
2. Brandon Roy (Isn't he a combo guard?)
3. Dwayne Wade
4. J.R. Smith (or D. Rose - if he is considered a combo guard)
5. Eric Gordon

Kobe will be pushing 35 in 4 years time (He is pushing 31 as I post) - so I'll make him number#6 on the list.:eek:

[All Net]

then you are a blind homer...seriously

If you actually watched the way Kobe plays you wouldn't be so blind to realise Kobe will still be a very good player at age 34...don't call me a homer when that is something I have never been.

[All Net]

So your telling me someone that scores 20PPG is a top 5 at their position?

Just because Ray Allen is an All-Star also means nothing. Is he a top 5 SG? No he isn't, and odds are greatly against Kobe being a top 5 SF at the age of 35.

Tim Duncan, KG *cough cough*

Kobe in 5 years wouldn't need to average a boat load of points by then Bynum will hopfully be that go to guy. You don't need to average 30 a game to be considered top tier. And since when was Kobe a small forward? there are some quailty players coming up but with Kobe's work ethic no reason why he can't still be right up there with the best.

[qrich]

Tim Duncan, KG *cough cough*

Kobe in 5 years wouldn't need to average a boat load of points by then Bynum will hopfully be that go to guy. You don't need to average 30 a game to be considered top tier.

Duncan is the Big Fundamental, so no **** he is effective at age 32. Kevin Garnett is also 32 and will be 33 sometime next month. And on top of that, the talent pool is much deeper for shooting guard, than it is for power forward, making it tougher for Kobe to remain at the top 5 at his position at the age of 34 versus Duncan and KG still being top 5 at their position at the age of 32.

Like earlier said, stop being a blind homer.

[All Net]

Duncan is the Big Fundamental, so no **** he is effective at age 32. Kevin Garnett is also 32 and will be 33 sometime next month. And on top of that, the talent pool is much deeper for shooting guard, than it is for power forward, making it tougher for Kobe to remain at the top 5 at his position at the age of 34 versus Duncan and KG still being top 5 at their position at the age of 32.

Like earlier said, stop being a blind homer.

Like Duncan, Kobe doesn't depend on his jumping abilty to be effective..he is a smart player who knows how to get in position to be effective. Has nothing to do with being a homer as I'm clearly not...it's about reading how certain players play and Kobe has the base to still be good in 5 years time...time will tell I suppose. Alot can change all depends how strong kobe's motivation is.

[PoGoMon]

Tim Duncan, KG *cough cough*

Kobe in 5 years wouldn't need to average a boat load of points by then Bynum will hopfully be that go to guy. You don't need to average 30 a game to be considered top tier. And since when was Kobe a small forward? there are some quailty players coming up but with Kobe's work ethic no reason why he can't still be right up there with the best.

TODAY, Duncan (4/25/76) is about to turn 33 and KG (5/19/76) will turn 33 about 3 1/2 weeks after Timmy. "cough cough". Are they really playing as good as they did 4 or 5 years ago? Kobe - in 4 or 5 years (pushing 35 or 36) will be older than them by a few years!:rolleyes:

[JustinJDW]

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Brandon Roy
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Eric Gordon
5. O.J. Mayo

Kobe will still be a Top SG in 4-5 Years. No doubt.

[Heilige]

True, Jordan at 35 was still the best player in the game. Therefore its not farfetched that a 34 year old Kobe will be ONE OF the top players in the game, although unlike Jordan, I don't think he will be THE TOP player.


Kobe at 34 would be in his 17th year in the league and 18th year for 35. That would be a ton of more mileage on his knees/legs than Jordan had at 34-35.

[Batman]

Why do you people have O.J. Mayo as a top 1-3 SG in this league? He is overhyped, Ben Gordon at best.

1. Brandon Roy
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Kevin Martin
5. Demar Derozan

[Batman]

Screw you Batman.

Batman Sh!Ts on the Riddler everytime. :rockon:

[lilgodfather1]

Screw you Batman.
Hey liloj

[phoenix18]

If Ray Allen can still be a star guard at age 32/33 so can Kobe at 34...you forget that Kobe doesn't depend on jumping abilty to get his points...he is a very smart player who will still be able to average 20PPG by then...although If Bynum develops Kobe won't need do much. In 4 years Bynum will be only 25
For real dude you are right there is no way he will be out of the top five. He has too many moves to be out of it.

[Toizumi]

I don't see how Eric Gordon is any different from Ben Gordon. Same player imo.

Not two of my favorite players.. but they're far from similar :confusedshrug:
Eric Gordon is a slasher, with a good shot, while Ben Gordon is a shooter.

[lilgodfather1]

Roy
Eric Gordon
Wade
Delonte West
OJ Mayo

[jrong]

Roy
Eric Gordon
Wade
Delonte West
OJ Mayo

That's an ambitious suggestion.

[Juges8932]

1)B-Roy
2)D-Wade
3)Kobe Bryant
4)Joe Johnson
5)OJ Mayo

[Godfather]

Roy
Eric Gordon
Wade
Delonte West
OJ Mayo

:wtf:

Make a new account.

You are an utter troll who uses little rhyme nor reason.

[lilgodfather1]

That's an ambitious suggestion.
I had to put in my homer pick. People are putting in a 34-35 year old Kobe, who is to say Delonte can't be a top 5 SG?

[iLoveNBA]

1. Wade

2. Roy

3. Mayo

4. Eric Gordon

[BlazersDozen]

Why have I only seen about three mentions of Kevin Martin and no mentions of JOHN SALMONS?!

Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy
John Salmons
Kevin Martin

[GiveItToBurrito]

Why have I only seen about three mentions of Kevin Martin and no mentions of JOHN SALMONS?!

Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy
John Salmons
Kevin Martin

Salmons is at his peak right now and he's not even top five. Isn't he like 29?

Props for mentioning Kevin Martin, too.

Brandon Roy
Dwyane Wade (he'll be in his last year or two of being a star, though)
Kobe
Kevin Martin
player to be determined

I don't think that OJ Mayo will be top five since he's too small and not athletic enough. Eric Gordon looks good, but he seems more like a better Ben Gordon, and I wouldn't even be surprised to see him as a sixth man since he can't rebound or pass that well (the same could be said of Kevin Martin, who has a similar game, but at least Martin's tall enough to guard shooting guards and small forwards). I don't know who else will be in the league five years from now, so it's impossible to make an accurate prediction. Based on the players in the league now, the fifth spot is completely up for grabs.

[shortlunatic]

If you actually watched the way Kobe plays you wouldn't be so blind to realise Kobe will still be a very good player at age 34...don't call me a homer when that is something I have never been.

i have watched Kobe, but hes gonna be top 5 in 4 years?? Its not so much that hes not gonna be good, but in 4 years time, ill be damned if there arent 5 SG's that can produce more than he can. Players like Wade and Roy will dominate that position and then theres players like Eric Gordon and OJ Mayo who have lots of potential. Im just saying i cant see Kobe producing the same as the others 4 years from now. I say Kobe as 5th in the top 5 is a HUGE maybe.

[WhySoInsecure?]

No Xavier Henry and James Harden?

[Al Thornton]

Why do you people have O.J. Mayo as a top 1-3 SG in this league? He is overhyped, Ben Gordon at best.

1. Brandon Roy
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Kevin Martin
5. Demar Derozan

agreed but EG is a top 3 definitely DUMB****

[Nets fan 93]

1. Brandon Roy
2. Dwyane Wade
3. OJ Mayo
4. Eric Gordon
5. ________ maybe a player that hasnt been drafted yet

[BlazersDozen]

Salmons is at his peak right now and he's not even top five. Isn't he like 29?

Props for mentioning Kevin Martin, too.

Brandon Roy
Dwyane Wade (he'll be in his last year or two of being a star, though)
Kobe
Kevin Martin
player to be determined

I don't think that OJ Mayo will be top five since he's too small and not athletic enough. Eric Gordon looks good, but he seems more like a better Ben Gordon, and I wouldn't even be surprised to see him as a sixth man since he can't rebound or pass that well (the same could be said of Kevin Martin, who has a similar game, but at least Martin's tall enough to guard shooting guards and small forwards). I don't know who else will be in the league five years from now, so it's impossible to make an accurate prediction. Based on the players in the league now, the fifth spot is completely up for grabs.

Yeah, he's 29, 30 in December but he never played a big role on a team or over 30 minutes per game until the 07-08 season. I'm a full believer that age doesn't really matter in the NBA but how many years you log and how many years you played a lot of minutes as well. For instance, Travis Outlaw was the definition of a scrub for his first two seasons so I basically considered him a rookie in his third season. Since 07-08 he has increased his points per game total each year and is now averaging 10 more points a game than his career average. I also say this because I feel he's an all around player. He can grab boards, pass the ball and play some defense which isn't the case with O.J. Mayo and Eric Gordon for the time being.

Basically, John Salmons is 30 playing as a 3rd or 4th year player by my logic. Of course I could always be wrong because most players start to lose their steps around 33-35 so we'll see.

[Rojogaqu11]

I think the starting SG for the Thunder can be a decent player in 4 years... I wonder why no one has mentioned him.

[Biddy77]

I think the starting SG for the Thunder can be a decent player in 4 years... I wonder why no one has mentioned him.

most people probably don't know his name. can't say that i blame them. he wasn't exactly a dynamic scorer at WSU. very solid defender, and a good all around player, though.

[Al Thornton]

most people probably don't know his name. can't say that i blame them. he wasn't exactly a dynamic scorer at WSU. very solid defender, and a good all around player, though.

who?

[Biddy77]

who?

Kyle Weaver

[Rojogaqu11]

my bad my bad.. I meant the other lanky dude.. I thought he played SG??

[qrich]

my bad my bad.. I meant the other lanky dude.. I thought he played SG??

Thabo Sefolosha?

[Biddy77]

my bad my bad.. I meant the other lanky dude.. I thought he played SG??

this is the guy who has been starting the last few times portland has played OKC. mister weaver:

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/assets_c/2009/02/weaverthunder-thumb-270x240.jpg

[Al Thornton]

my bad my bad.. I meant the other lanky dude.. I thought he played SG??

Westbrook?

[eaggolfer3]

He's thinking of Durant.

[Al Thornton]

He's thinking of Durant.

OH..... wow.

[KRAYZIE]

He's thinking of Durant.
No, Robert Swift.








(:p}

[FIXED]

1. Brandon Roy
2. O.J. Mayo
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Kobe Bryant ( if he is still around)
5. Eric Gordon

[el gringos]

Durant
Jr smith
Brandon roy
Oj
Dwade

[lilojmayo]

Durant
Jr smith
Brandon roy
Oj
Dwade

Durant is an SF
JR Smith is a 6th Man for Life

1. Mayo
2. Roy
3. Wade
4. Kobe
5. Gordon

Someone bump this thread if we are still around in 4 years please.

[rknine15]

No mentions of CDR???!?!?! F you all:mad:

[KRAYZIE]

Durant is an SF
JR Smith is a 6th Man for Life

1. Mayo
2. Roy
3. Wade
4. Kobe
5. Gordon

Someone bump this thread if we are still around in 4 years please.
Who said anything about players who come off the bench can't be top 5 players? Since, Ginobili comes off the bench, he's not or never was a top 5 sg in the league, right? Also, if you compare Mayo to JR, they're both very similar in terms of statistics, the big difference here is that one gets a lot of hype and plays 10 minutes extra a game.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4411/40077307.png
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4611/80564160.png

Now, I'm not saying or guaranteeing that JR is going to turn out better than OJ or will be a top 5 sg in 4 years time, but let's not pretend like JR has no shot whatsoever and that OJ blows away the competition.

[big baller]

Wade
Roy
Mayo
Johnson
Gordan

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Except one is an athletic freak.

That's why Gordon is recorded a 39" standing vert, and can bench 220 DB incline :rolleyes:

Roy
Bryant
Wade
Mayo
Iggy

[OneMoreSucka]

Roy
Wade
Kevin Martin
Kobe
JR

[FIXED]

Who said anything about players who come off the bench can't be top 5 players? Since, Ginobili comes off the bench, he's not or never was a top 5 sg in the league, right? Also, if you compare Mayo to JR, they're both very similar in terms of statistics, the big difference here is that one gets a lot of hype and plays 10 minutes extra a game.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4411/40077307.png
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4611/80564160.png

Now, I'm not saying or guaranteeing that JR is going to turn out better than OJ or will be a top 5 sg in 4 years time, but let's not pretend like JR has no shot whatsoever and that OJ blows away the competition.

The biggest difference is Mayo plays defense JR doesn't. Mayo has to have great stamina to play 38 mins a game, Mayo doesn't shoot the ball every min he is in the game. Mayo is a rookie in his first year.

You could make that same claim about Derrick Rose, if you compare Rose's numbers to like Caledron or something.

[LebrickJames84']

That's why Gordon is recorded a 39" standing vert, and can bench 220 DB incline :rolleyes:

Roy
Bryant
Wade
Mayo
Iggy
this

[BallersTalk]

Did you have the same thought on MJ before he played his last 4years?
MJ was an anomaly. He, like few others, was still incredibly athletic at 35 years old.

[oballers4life]

1. Wade
2. Roy
3. Kobe
4. Mayo

5. gordon/iggy tie

[magnax1]

Will Kobe stay around another five years? Will he be one of those guys who stays around for 20 or so years? I think he'll retire in three or so years. anyway
1-Wade
2-Eric Gordon
3-Brandon Roy
4-OJ Mayo
5-Probably some college guy in here somewhere.

[Bcogswell]

1. Wade
2. Roy
3. Mayo
4. E. Gordon
5. Derozan

Assuming Kobe retires, if not hes probably 4 or 5.

[qrich]

Will Kobe stay around another five years? Will he be one of those guys who stays around for 20 or so years? I think he'll retire in three or so years. anyway
1-Wade
2-Eric Gordon
3-Brandon Roy
4-OJ Mayo
5-Probably some college guy in here somewhere.

Really? Gordon over Roy? I'd love that but don't see it happening....

[Darius]

look at their shooting breakdown.... where they shoot from, how well they shoot from each area, the rate at which they draw fouls, etc.

eric gordon takes almost 1/3 of his attempts within 5 feet of the bucket. that's very aggressive, and he's finishing around 57% of his inside attempts.

ben gordon is a *far* better midrange player/shooter--but only takes about 1/5 of his attempts inside, and finishes at a 52% rate inside.

their 3%, fg%, and ft% all look very similar, until you look at how they go about achieving those numbers. eric gordon is just about as aggressive attacking the rim as dwyane wade and brandon roy.

Bravo - someone actually bringing facts to the table.

Eric Gordon was 16th is TS% last year, 2nd amongst SGs. He is a very efficient player because he can shoot the 3 and attack the rim (though he def. needs to develop a mid range game).

He can play D too... something Ben Gordon can't.

[Darius]

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Brandon Roy
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Eric Gordon
5. O.J. Mayo

Kobe will still be a Top SG in 4-5 Years. No doubt.

Bingo - my list as well.

Looking at it you can see the SG position has really fallen off.

Think, 6 years ago you had:

Vince
T-Mac
Kobe
Ray Allen
AI
Reggie Miller
Stackhouse
Ricky Davis

[Snoop_Cat]

1.Wade
2.Roy
3.Joe Johnson (Will be 31/32)
4.Eric Gordon
5.Insert College Guy

[brandonislegend]

I think tyreke evans is gonna be top 5 in 4 years, he is ridicolously good at getting to rim and his jumper is really improving already, i saw a video of him a couple days ago his shot was wet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaptU2Ezh2g

[Agent_Zero]

Roy's gotta be at the top. I mean, I don't see who else can top him unless some amazing prospect comes outta nowhere soon. I don't see Mayo at the top...as stated here, he's an undersized volume scorer.

1. Roy
2. Kobe
3. Wade
4. Iggy
5. JJ

Kobe, at this point, has handed the reigns to Pau and Bynum and Brown/Farmar so he won't be at the top... the up and coming guys below the top 5 but top 10 are Young, J.R., Mayo, Ben and Eric Gordon, no order.

[TheGreatDeraj]

Roy's gotta be at the top. I mean, I don't see who else can top him unless some amazing prospect comes outta nowhere soon. I don't see Mayo at the top...as stated here, he's an undersized volume scorer.

1. Roy
2. Kobe
3. Wade
4. Iggy
5. JJ

Kobe, at this point, has handed the reigns to Pau and Bynum and Brown/Farmar so he won't be at the top... the up and coming guys below the top 5 but top 10 are Young, J.R., Mayo, Ben and Eric Gordon, no order.

No Arenas?

1.Roy
2.Kobe
3.Mayo
4.Gordon
5.Arenas

Sleeper:
Meeks

[OneMoreSucka]

Still don't know why everyone here sleeps on Kevin Martin. I think I was the only one who put him on my list.

[Agent_Zero]

Still don't know why everyone here sleeps on Kevin Martin. I think I was the only one who put him on my list.

True, I forgot about Martin...I see him and Ben Gordon as the same though and most guards on my list are more well rounded than he will ever be.

[Lebron23]

1. Dwayne Wade
2. Brandon Roy
3. OJ Mayo
4. Demar Derozan, Kevin Martin, Lance Stephenson.
5. Kobe Bryant, Eric Gordon

[momo]

Roy.

[IInvented]

Why are people saying Kobe Bryant? He's gonna be 35..

[IInvented]

No Arenas?

1.Roy
2.Kobe
3.Mayo
4.Gordon
5.Arenas

Sleeper:
Meeks

Learn how to ****ing read.. It says Shooting Guards.. Arenas is a Point Guard.. :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[IInvented]

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Brandon Roy
3. OJ Mayo
4. Eric Gordon
5. Kevin Martin (underrated)

[loot]

I don't see how Eric Gordon is any different from Ben Gordon. Same player imo.

You never seen a Clippers game this season did you? Eric Gordon is MILES ahead of Ben on the defensive end. He's a very nice defender. Eric Gordon is MUCH stronger than Ben Gordon (Not that Ben isnt strong) and he goes to the hoop much stronger and more, resulting in more FT's.

[IInvented]

Bingo - my list as well.

Looking at it you can see the SG position has really fallen off.

Think, 6 years ago you had:

Vince
T-Mac
Kobe
Ray Allen
AI
Reggie Miller
Stackhouse
Ricky Davis
:lol :lol :oldlol: :roll: :roll:

[KoolKat]

O.J Mayo :pimp:

[KoolKat]

:lol :lol :oldlol: :roll: :roll:

Indeed :oldlol:

[TryToBeUnbias]

Why are people saying Kobe Bryant? He's gonna be 35..
because he keeps himself in excellent shape and he uses his jump shot more now than ever..jump shot lengthens careers

[brandonislegend]

No one has evans...You guys will see this year.

[LA_Showtime]

No one has evans...You guys will see this year.

Don't you mean Jodie Meeks? Isn't that the guy you love?

[EricGordon23]

Eric Gordon
Brandon Roy
Nick Young
James Harden
Ben Gordon

[IInvented]

Eric Gordon
Brandon Roy
Nick Young
James Harden
Ben Gordon

Over Wade and Mayo?? :confusedshrug:

[Bodhi]

Why are people saying Kobe Bryant? He's gonna be 35..

He's developed his game to rely mostly on jump shots and post ups so his game won't be ruined when he loses his athleticism.

[206kid]

In 4 years Wade will only be 31.. He will still be the best shooting guard in the league..

1. Wade
2. Roy
3. Mayo

[gpfanz]

1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Manu

[IInvented]

1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Manu

Manu at 36? Get the **** outta here..

[Younggrease]

people acting like Kobe isnt gonna be better then bums like Derozan are crazy. And then to think he wont be better then Eric Gordon..

All Kobe is gonna do is put on some muscle and turn into a dominant post player and rely on his superior foot work to get serperation for his elite jumper....4 years isnt gonna change that, he should be a top 3 sg in 4 years at least barring injury.

You can literally see how he will play with a loss of athletism...he played coming right off knee surgery where he could barely even dunk in 2006-2007 season. He was just getting buckets on pure skill

here is Kobe with noticable less athletism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krtnGQzmEyY&feature=related

[gpfanz]

Manu at 36? Get the **** outta here..

Why cant i be a homer :(

[EricGordon23]

Over Wade and Mayo?? :confusedshrug:

Wade i am just thinking hes going to get injured again.

I personally think O.J mayo isn't anything special.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Wade i am just thinking hes going to get injured again.

I personally think O.J mayo isn't anything special.


This. Mayo is so overrated here. B.Roy is way more talented:cheers:

[Simple Jack]

Are people forgetting Kevin Martin and Monta Ellis?

[Batman]

This. Mayo is so overrated here. B.Roy is way more talented:cheers:

What do you expect he is ISH's Golden Boy.

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Brandon Roy
3. Kobe Bryant
4. OJ Mayo
5. LaQuinton Ross

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

This. Mayo is so overrated here. B.Roy is way more talented:cheers:

Your mad because Melo will never be better than Mayo. Now my list anybody who thinks Wade, or Roy will be better than Mayo is out of their minds. Mayo as a rookie scored 28 points on Wade, and 31 points on Roy.

Here is the list time to lock the thread

1. O.J. Mayo
2. Kobe Bryant ( MJ was the best when he was 35 why not Kobe)
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Stephen Curry
5. Brandon Roy.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

you're right, Mayo is going to lead them to the promised land:bowdown: :bowdown:

60s
http://www.sports-photos.com/catalog/images/JerryWest1Clr.tif.jpg

70s

http://www.skylinepictures.com/New_York_Nets_Julius_Erving_ny124_large.jpg

80s
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DeutwC_pLZ0/SegN_uu9S7I/AAAAAAAABVM/Do55fwNYCZc/s400/michael_jordan_drunk.jpg

90s
http://nicekicks.com/images/michael-jordan-last-shot-anniversary-2.jpg

00s
http://www3.allaroundphilly.com/blogs/delcotimes/cvito/uploaded_images/kobebryant-778448.bmp

10s

http://www.everyjoe.com/expertfantasy/files/2009/01/zumasportswest260943-20081213-zaf-ts1-oj-mayo.jpg

He is ready it is now his turn to take over this league. We should all just kick back and watch because nobody is going to stop him

[Drexler-Roy]

Your mad because Melo will never be better than Mayo. Now my list anybody who thinks Wade, or Roy will be better than Mayo is out of their minds. Mayo as a rookie scored 28 points on Wade, and 31 points on Roy.

Here is the list time to lock the thread

1. O.J. Mayo
2. Kobe Bryant ( MJ was the best when he was 35 why not Kobe)
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Stephen Curry
5. Brandon Roy.
On the season Roy averaged 22.5ppg vs OJ Mayo and the Memphis Grizzlies Mayo averaged 20.8ppg vs Portland and IIRC Portland won all 4 games vs Memphis
1)Roy
2)Wade
3)Kobe

[knickscity]

A player being in the top 5 at the age of 35 either proves that player is that great or the position is that thin league-wide.

[knickscity]

MJ was the best when he was 35
Didn't Jordan retire at 34, when they did the second 3peat in '98??

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

On the season Roy averaged 22.5ppg vs OJ Mayo and the Memphis Grizzlies Mayo averaged 20.8ppg vs Portland and IIRC Portland won all 4 games vs Memphis
1)Roy
2)Wade
3)Kobe

My point exactly you just proved it. Mayo can compete with players like Wade and Roy as a rookie just think at what he will to them this year.

[mamba24]

Roy lol...dont get me wrong hes a great player...but if you had the game on the line...id give it to wade compared to roy...also i go with proven winners....

[RoseCity07]

Roy lol...dont get me wrong hes a great player...but if you had the game on the line...id give it to wade compared to roy...also i go with proven winners....

Have you seen Roy in the clutch? The guy always make the game winning shot or send the game into OT. He never misses a free throw in clutch time. In the playoffs in both games Portland won, Roy hit a big time 3 in the final minutes with Artest in his face.

[lilojmayo]

predict the top 5 shooting guards in 4 years time

1. O.J. Mayo
2. Brandon Roy
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Eric Gordon

Wow going through this thread, nobody predicted that Kobe would still be top dawg by a mile. his longevity is truely something.

With that being said

Outside of Brandon Roy's freak injury, and the emergency of James Harden. The SG position was rather easy to tell the ballers it was pretty obvious that Kobe, Wade, Gordon, Mayo were all going to be in the mix somewhere.

[disel]

Harden has an emergency ward?

[lilgodfather1]

Wow going through this thread, nobody predicted that Kobe would still be top dawg by a mile. his longevity is truely something.

With that being said

Outside of Brandon Roy's freak injury, and the emergency of James Harden. The SG position was rather easy to tell the ballers it was pretty obvious that Kobe, Wade, Gordon, Mayo were all going to be in the mix somewhere.
Roy's injury wasn't a freak injury. A freak injury is like Bynum bowling and blowing his knees out... Roy's injury troubles were known from the time he was drafted i'm pretty sure.

Anyways the SG crop in the NBA is horrid, much like the C crop, although there are far more servicable SG's in the NBA than there are C's.

[AlphaWolf24]

Due to Kobe's style of play I see no reason why he won't still be considered one of the best in the league even at age 34/35..


dis Mufaka knows the game....

[AlphaWolf24]

If you actually watched the way Kobe plays you wouldn't be so blind to realise Kobe will still be a very good player at age 34...don't call me a homer when that is something I have never been.


see even when you tell the truth....

[AngelEyes]

see even when you tell the truth....

Gotta give props when they're due.

[scm5]

Roy's injury wasn't a freak injury. A freak injury is like Bynum bowling and blowing his knees out... Roy's injury troubles were known from the time he was drafted i'm pretty sure.

Anyways the SG crop in the NBA is horrid, much like the C crop, although there are far more servicable SG's in the NBA than there are C's.

The SG crop in the NBA is actually pretty deep.

Kobe
Wade
Harden
Manu
OJ
Monta
Gordon
Johnson
Allen
Tyreke
Iguodala
Martin
JR Smith

It's not as deep as the PG's in the NBA, but just as deep as the SF's.

Lebron
Durant
Melo
Pierce
Gay
Granger
Wallace
Beasley
Deng
Batum
Butler

[Rysio]

i forgive these uneducated posters in this thread but never ever doubt lord godbe again. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[chazzy]

People had Kobe out of their top 5 SGs, but he's still top 5 overall :lol

[Doranku]

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Brandon Roy
3. OJ Mayo
4. Eric Gordon
5. Demar Derozan
6. James Harden
7. Andre Iguodala
8. Kevin Martin
9. Tyreke Evans
10. Gerald Henderson
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Doranku]

Why are people saying Kobe Bryant? He's gonna be 35..
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Beatlezz]

GodBe is still #1! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:


http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m503/DCRamsey/Religious%20Messages%20and%20Bible%20Verses/More%20Religious%20Messages/BlessedBeTheNameOfOurHolyGod.png

[Fudge]

GodBe is still #1! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:


http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m503/DCRamsey/Religious%20Messages%20and%20Bible%20Verses/More%20Religious%20Messages/BlessedBeTheNameOfOurHolyGod.png
:roll:

[swi7ch]

Jack Taylor

Dude just dropped 138

[AlphaWolf24]

Why are people saying Kobe Bryant? He's gonna be 35..


:lol Epic Bump..

[NumberSix]

Jack Taylor

Dude just dropped 138
On UNDER 50% shooting............ with 0 assists.