With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

[Real Men Wear Green]

Am I alone in thinking the Republican Party has gone insane?

[konex]

These wingnuts are out of control. Imagine if Obama had "won" like Bush did vs. Gore :roll:

[Hawker]

Just Rick Perry.

If Texas secedes, Texas and the US both lose. Texans and americans should be against this.

[RedBlackAttack]

Texans and americans should be against this.
Ya think?

[Hawker]

Ya think?

Just wait for all the dumbass Californians and other Texas haters who say, "we dont need those dumbass rednecks! All they do is farm, dance a little jig and have sex with their uncles."

[i seen hippos]

^ don't forget fathers.

[D-Shark]

Am I alone in thinking the Republican Party has gone insane?

I'm alone on 9-11.

but yea... The country has gone insane.

[PistolPete]

Am I alone in thinking the Republican Party has gone insane?

These are just everyday citizens just rising up against a weak and failing government.

But it's not the first time Texas has tried to stick it to the U.S. for not pulling their weight.

[kentatm]

ohh Rick. I've met him several times and think he is a nice enough guy but sometimes he just makes me shake my head.

I am pretty sure Texas (and every other Confederate state) gave up the right to secede as a prerequisite to rejoin the Union following the Civil War anyway

[Hawker]

Plus, I really dont think rick Perry is contemplating but it's just the citizens doing so.

If it gets citizens aware of how then I really dont care. Anyways, texans have a right to complain as being the most successful state in the nation.

[Fatal9]

Just caught some of the teabag coverage on TV (ie. redneck gathering) and the right wing fringe is actually scary.

These zombies are protesting higher taxes when their taxes are getting cut.

They are against bailouts (which are necessary) but the GOP President proposed and started them.

They are against spending but the GOP President is the one who went to an unnecessary war and spent an insane amount of money.

They want freedom but it was the GOP President who made it legal to listen in on their phone calls.

Seriously, what is going on with these crazies? Never mind the racist undertones of some of these signs that were being paraded today, the fact that some of them are just disturbing (in the video below a guy with a flag where a chopped off right arm is holding a bloody sword because he fears tyranny, this whole sentiment of "government is coming to steal my guns"). I mean this is actually getting insane. The fact that a whole news network was promoting this makes this even sadder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLQ3rEZkoo
^ WTF. Ted Nugent and Glenn Beck are the spokesmen for these people?

[Hawker]

Just caught some of the teabag coverage on TV (ie. redneck gathering) and the right wing fringe is actually scary.

These zombies are protesting higher taxes when their taxes are getting cut.

They are against bailouts (which are necessary) but the GOP President proposed and started them.

They are against spending but the GOP President is the one who went to an unnecessary war and spent an insane amount of money.

They want freedom but it was the GOP President who made it legal to listen in on their phone calls.

Seriously, what is going on with these crazies? Never mind the racist undertones of some of these signs that were being paraded today, the fact that some of them are just disturbing (in the video below a guy with a flag where a chopped off right arm is holding a bloody sword because he fears tyranny, this whole sentiment of "government is coming to steal my guns"). I mean this is actually getting insane. The fact that a whole news network was promoting this makes this even sadder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLQ3rEZkoo
^ WTF. Ted Nugent and Glenn Beck are the spokesmen for these people?

It's kind of funny but this post pretty much proved what me, nexxus, wtfmonkey and rasheed1 have been saying all along.

There is no difference between the two parties.

And Obama has defended Bush's wiretapping.

[i seen hippos]

I'm on their side if they got Ted Nugent.

[Hawker]

I'm on their side if they got Ted Nugent.

Same here as long as he plays, "Stranglehold" I'm down with the Nug.

[bdreason]

Economists around the globe have already predicted the seperation of the United States. It's not far fetched to consider that certain states will want to become their own Countries if it is in their best interest. The main issue will be establishing a standing Army that could defy the US Military. Probably not that hard considering most of our Military is deployed overseas, and our National Gaurd is a joke that can't even secure our own borders.

[Fatal9]

It's kind of funny but this post pretty much proved what me, nexxus, wtfmonkey and rasheed1 have been saying all along.

There is no difference between the two parties.

And Obama has defended Bush's wiretapping.
Where were these people when all that was happening under a Republican (white) President?

I just can't believe they are complaining about higher taxes when their taxes are actually getting cut. WTF.

[Hawker]

If Texas were to secede, I'd stay in Texas.

[Hawker]

Where were these people when all that was happening under a Republican (white) President?

I just can't believe they are complaining about higher taxes when their taxes are actually getting cut. WTF.

I completely agree with you on this on the complaining. They have been people that have seen the light though and I'm quick criticize people who complain about things about Obama when they supported Bush as well.

Some of those people might be wealthy enough to where their taxes would be cut. They would have a point to complain.

To me, it's about principle. I disagree with the principle. I may not ever be able to reach that amount of money to where I'm taxed 40% or whatever it may be but I can still and will disagree with it based on principle.

[TheGreatDeraj]

Just caught some of the teabag coverage on TV (ie. redneck gathering) and the right wing fringe is actually scary.

These zombies are protesting higher taxes when their taxes are getting cut.
Obama has increased sin tax, and I believe a tax on gas. Also, he's raising some taxes and cutting others.
They are against bailouts (which are necessary) but the GOP President proposed and started them.
Bailouts are not necessary.
They are against spending but the GOP President is the one who went to an unnecessary war and spent an insane amount of money.
Obama's 3.5 trillon spending budget for next year is insane. That might be more than Bush spent. I'm not sure, but it's ridiculous either way.
They want freedom but it was the GOP President who made it legal to listen in on their phone calls.
No comment on this, because I have always been against the Patriot act, and I think most republicans only supported it because it was Bush's idea.

Seriously, what is going on with these crazies? Never mind the racist undertones of some of these signs that were being paraded today, the fact that some of them are just disturbing (in the video below a guy with a flag where a chopped off right arm is holding a bloody sword because he fears tyranny, this whole sentiment of "government is coming to steal my guns"). I mean this is actually getting insane. The fact that a whole news network was promoting this makes this even sadder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLQ3rEZkoo
^ WTF. Ted Nugent and Glenn Beck are the spokesmen for these people?


Am I alone in thinking the Republican Party has gone insane?

Don't pull a starface and generalize an entire party because of an individuals actions.

[Fatal9]

Economists around the globe have already predicted the seperation of the United States. It's not far fetched to consider that certain states will want to become their own Countries if it is in their best interest. The main issue will be establishing a standing Army that could defy the US Military. Probably not that hard considering most of our Military is deployed overseas, and our National Gaurd is a joke that can't even secure our own borders.
It was one Russian professor who predicted American disintegration and Russia coming out as a superpower (surprise :rolleyes:). Anyone who takes him seriously is dumb as nails. He predicted Mexico taking over the southern US, Canada the north, China the West, and EU the East.

[JayGuevara]

I'm on their side if they got Ted Nugent.


Me too. I will wango tango and feel the effects of the cat scratch fever for whatever cause he's promoting. Plus, he makes some quality beef jerky. :oldlol:

[D-Shark]

If Texas were to secede, I'd stay in Texas.

me too...

-Dooms

[Hawker]

me too...

-Dooms

I need to get guns.

[D-Shark]

I need to get guns.

Food, Medicine, and Supplies > Guns.

[Fatal9]

LOL at bailouts are not necessary. Who needs banks right? It's not like every business and family depends on them. Those paycheques you are getting are coming from a line of credit from your company's banks. That house/car you want to buy is going to be financed by a bank. Trade and business would collapse under these conditions.

Yea, letting Lehman go under was such a great decision right? It triggered a credit freeze across the world and you want to let multiple large institutions that are interconnected go under? You are insane.

[TheGreatDeraj]

LOL at bailouts are not necessary. Who needs banks right? It's not like every business and family depends on them. Those paycheques you are getting are coming from a line of credit from your company's banks. That house/car you want to buy is going to be financed by a bank. Trade and business would collapse under these conditions.

Yea, letting Lehman go under was such a great decision right? It triggered a credit freeze across the world and you want to let multiple large institutions that are interconnected go under? You are insane.

I'd rather that happen then to give away billions of tax payers dollars to corporations who failed. That's not capitalism at all. The economy is going to have to crash before it can repair itself and the more money we give away to try to fix the economy the worse the crash will be. Throwing money into the economy doesn't fix anything. It prolonged the great depression and it's making our situation worse now.

[bdreason]

It was one Russian professor who predicted American disintegration and Russia coming out as a superpower (surprise :rolleyes:). Anyone who takes him seriously is dumb as nails. He predicted Mexico taking over the southern US, Canada the north, China the West, and EU the East.

Karl Marx predicted this over 100 years ago. A Capitalist-Democracy will eventually transform into a Socialist regime to avoid a revolution. During that transformation, it is possible (and likely) that certain demographics will wish to form their own Governments / Unions. When dealing with a landmass the size of Russia (USSR) or United States, it becomes even more likely that specific regions will see benefits (resources) in seperating from the collective Nation.

The real question is; how does Texas benefit from being part of the United States? Protection from Bin Laden? :oldlol:

The US certainly doesn't do a good job of protecting Texas's borders.

[wTFaMonkey]

LOL at bailouts are not necessary. Who needs banks right? It's not like every business and family depends on them. Those paycheques you are getting are coming from a line of credit from your company's banks. That house/car you want to buy is going to be financed by a bank. Trade and business would collapse under these conditions.

Yea, letting Lehman go under was such a great decision right? It triggered a credit freeze across the world and you want to let multiple large institutions that are interconnected go under? You are insane.

DUH. obviously we need banks. But fractional reserve banking is as good as fraud. They literally preach money manipulation. And what does the United States do? They REWARD THIS SCUMBAGS and PUNISH the everyday hard working americans.

These bailouts are only re inflating the bubble. and when it bursts again, it might even be greater than the great depression.

[Fatal9]

Karl Marx predicted this over 100 years ago. A Capitalist-Democracy will eventually transform into a Socialist regime to avoid a revolution. During that transformation, it is possible (and likely) that certain demographics will wish to form their own Governments / Unions. When dealing with a landmass the size of Russia (USSR) or United States, it becomes even more likely that specific regions will see benefits (resources) in seperating from the collective Nation.

The real question is; how does Texas benefit from being part of the United States? Protection from Bin Laden? :oldlol:

The US certainly doesn't do a good job of protecting Texas's borders.
:oldlol:

That's why communist Russia/Eastern Europe, China are or already have slowly moved towards a more capitalist system right? US has been through much harder times and this was something that was actually being said during the Depression that "capitalism is losing etc etc" and from that period emerged the mixed market economy (private enterprise + government oversight) that has been the best performing economic system in the last century.

You are saying some really outlandish things right now and I'll try to do my best to ignore you.

[JtotheIzzo]

Ted Nugent and Glenn Beck?

A washed up 70 rocker turned redneck :rockon: and a cry baby :cry: .

Nice crew.

[i seen hippos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44l_-6LDObM&feature=related

He owned this.:oldlol:

"Anybody wants to get mellow you can turn around and get the **** outta her, alright?"

"I like to dedicate this to all that Nashville puszy."

lol

[JtotheIzzo]

I'd rather that happen then to give away billions of tax payers dollars to corporations who failed. That's not capitalism at all. The economy is going to have to crash before it can repair itself and the more money we give away to try to fix the economy the worse the crash will be. Throwing money into the economy doesn't fix anything. It prolonged the great depression and it's making our situation worse now.

those corporations failed with your (taxpayer) dollars.

do you want that insurance plan you've been buying into all your life to disappear because it was mismanaged?

do you want your savings to disappear because the bank mismanaged it?

[JayGuevara]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44l_-6LDObM&feature=related

He owned this.:oldlol:

"Anybody wants to get mellow you can turn around and get the **** outta her, alright?"

"I like to dedicate this to all that Nashville puszy."

lol

The Nuge owns everything. Except for that whole being a pederast.

R.I.P. Fred Bear.

[PistolPete]

Same here as long as he plays, "Stranglehold" I'm down with the Nug.

He strung it out this afternoon. That song played live is pure ecstasy

[PistolPete]

Ted Nugent and Glenn Beck?

A washed up 70 rocker turned redneck :rockon: and a cry baby :cry: .

Nice crew.

Certainly better than this motley crew...

http://graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/seanpennhugo.jpg

http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/blog/maddow.jpg

[JtotheIzzo]

Certainly better than this motley crew...

http://graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/seanpennhugo.jpg

http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/blog/maddow.jpg

no arguments here (although Beck is still a complete tool, even you righties have to admit that).

For me, I'd like to party with Nuge and Chavez. That would be a right ripper. Drinking cheap rum in the red light district of Caracas getting our booze on and rubbing a little ass.

Those two would be a lot of fun.

[PistolPete]

You really don't know who that dude is?? That dude has his own TV program on a major network. Some political pundit, but he creates quite a stir. :oldlol:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p5dYgllB0yw/SKU4oj-phlI/AAAAAAAAAHU/9f5Fuekvj8E/s400/RachelMaddow1.jpg

[JtotheIzzo]

You really don't know who that dude is?? That dude has his own TV program on a major network. Some political pundit, but he creates quite a stir. :oldlol:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p5dYgllB0yw/SKU4oj-phlI/AAAAAAAAAHU/9f5Fuekvj8E/s400/RachelMaddow1.jpg

oh sh*t (I just saw the name when I quoted this)! That is Rachel Maddow? She looks like that gay kid on Desperate Housewives.
http://data-allocine.blogomaniac.fr/mdata/1/6/7/Z20051005084305673584761/img/1183386075_desperatehousewives_lg.jpg
I live and work overseas and they don't show MSNBC here (although we do get CNBC, FoxNews and CNN).

very dykish!

[Real Men Wear Green]

These are just everyday citizens just rising up against a weak and failing government.

But it's not the first time Texas has tried to stick it to the U.S. for not pulling their weight.
Texas is getting 17 billion in bailout money, had FEMA come over and gets back 88 cents of every tax dollar (as opposed to a state like Minnesota that is receiving 46). Everything you say is wrong. It's like an uncanny knack.

And this **** about securing the border? Mexicans have been crossing over long before Obama got in office. What, they just noticed? Did Bush secure the border and we just didn't know?
Don't pull a starface and generalize an entire party because of an individuals actions.
Most of the leaders of the Republican Party joined in to yesterday's nationwide teabagging, which was a protest organized to protest taxes, or bailouts, or whatever it is that has them so upset (I'm not totally sure, and they aren't either). There are some intelligent, well-meaning Republicans out there but they aren't in charge of the Party. No, the Republican Party is busy trying to dump Lipton into the river. They're so clueless, so directionless, so pointless that the Chicago teabaggers actually told the Party Chairman that they didn't want him there. This wave of insanity is the closest thing that the Right has to a movement. Having lost the American center they are now completely catering to the fringe elements. Here's a challenge for you: Find a picture from one of those teabaggings that has one non-white person in it. Nothing against white people, I'm related to a number of them myself, but they have become the party of uneducated white people that don't live in the northeastern US. And they clearly have no clue or idea how to win over anyone else. These idiots don't even know what the original Tea Party truly meant. They follow Glenn Beck to the Alamo of all places because he tells their stupid asses that it makes sense to hold the protest there not realizing that it was the BOSTON Tea Party. Of course, we wouldn't give a damn about a teabagging to protest nothing in particular, but their lack of a sense of history is part of their overall overwhelming ignorance. He actually won't do it, but I personally wish that Obama WOULD take these people's guns away, because stupid people with imagined grievances are a danger that ought be dealt with.

[Rasheed1]

the thing that is most disturbing to me right now is the fact that republicans are seemingly soo dishonest and desperate at this time that they play this extremely destructive game...

the tea parties and some of the other stuff they have been doing is nothing more than a cheap co-op of the things that libertarians have been doing for years...

these protests werent fueled by ignorance and hatred originally.... they were fueled by knowledge and honest objection to situations that warranted true change

Now you got the republicans (who just got finished sinking us into this problem) having the nerve to lead a revolt against the problem they exacerbated.....

and people are dumb enough to play along :hammerhead:


doesnt give you much hope for the future when Americans are soo gullible and soo shortsighted..

[Legend of Josh]

Let's just face the music people. The US of A is one phucked cookie right about now.

... BTW ... the world is watching awaiting our response.

[JtotheIzzo]

this is such a ****ing joke and media whoring nonesense.

If Texas secedes from the US I will fly to every ISH member's home and blow them.

what a ****ing rabble rouser, Texans should vote him out of office.

[brantonli]

Let's just face the music people. The US of A is one phucked cookie right about now.

... BTW ... the world is watching awaiting our response.

I said this before on ISH (or at least on the internet) but I swear that no country in the world hates itself more than USA. I don't even get why people are contemplating the idea of secession or staying in said place if it happens, it's like if Cornwall decided to secceed from the UK lol it would be a disaster (for Cornwall anyway).

[rufuspaul]

The words of ole Abe Lincoln still ring true:

"...we cannot separate...A husband and wife may be divorced, and go out of the presence and beyond the reach of each other; but the different parts of our country cannot do this. They cannot but remain face to face, and intercourse, either amicable or hostile, must continue between them...Suppose you go to war, you cannot fight always; and when , after much loss on both sides and no gain on either, you cease fighting, the identical old questions as to terms of intercourse are again upon you."

I like the sexual imagery especially considering he said this in 1861.

[Legend of Josh]

The words of ole Abe Lincoln still ring true:

"...we cannot separate...A husband and wife may be divorced, and go out of the presence and beyond the reach of each other; but the different parts of our country cannot do this. They cannot but remain face to face, and intercourse, either amicable or hostile, must continue between them...Suppose you go to war, you cannot fight always; and when , after much loss on both sides and no gain on either, you cease fighting, the identical old questions as to terms of intercourse are again upon you."

I like the sexual imagery especially considering he said this in 1861.

Yeah, Abe was certainly one of the greater philosophers not only during his era, but ultramodern eras that would surpass him as well.

[Real Men Wear Green]

For the record, the secession talk isn't worth taking seriously. It's just pandering to the lunatic fringe that has come to dominate the Republican Party in the Obama era. The legal hurdles they'd have to overcome to actually break off are massive, not to mention that most Texans probably think it's a stupid idea.

[Legend of Josh]

For the record, the secession talk isn't worth taking seriously. It's just pandering to the lunatic fringe that has come to dominate the Republican Party in the Obama era. The legal hurdles they'd have to overcome to actually break off are massive, not to mention that most Texans probably think it's a stupid idea.

Agreed... however with this even surfacing in the media illustrates to the world that we (the US of A) don't have our shit together... which is a sign of weakness.

[Real Men Wear Green]

We've always had crazy politicians, and so do other countries. What really hurts us when it comes to world perception is:

1. We crusade around the world against nukes while hording more than anyone.

2. We have fought environmental regulation to death in the past...Obama may change that, we'll see.

3. Epitomized by the last President, certain segments of our population wear their ignorance like a badge of honor.

4. Our financial system is widely believed to be at the root of the world's problems.

Compared to these 4 issues, Perry's idiocy is nothing.

[rufuspaul]

I just want to know what positions in the new Texas government will go to these guys:

Boozehound
Hawker
Primetime
Dooms
Cartmanclone

[Hawker]

I just want to know what positions in the new Texas government will go to these guys:

Boozehound
Hawker
Primetime
Dooms
Cartmanclone

Vice President to Doomsday for me :pimp:

[PistolPete]

Texas is getting 17 billion in bailout money, had FEMA come over and gets back 88 cents of every tax dollar (as opposed to a state like Minnesota that is receiving 46). Everything you say is wrong. It's like an uncanny knack.


I haven't said much. I was referring back to the Alamo days.

[kentatm]

dont know why some of you are bashing Rachel Maddow. Yea she is a bit sarcastic and yes she fits a stereotypical view of what a lesbian looks like but she is extremely smart, openly questions Dems all the time, is willing to and has brought on name Republicans and those she disagrees with (who also have brains) to her show and is willing to let her guest speak rather than shout them down.

[PistolPete]

dont know why some of you are bashing Rachel Maddow. Yea she is a bit sarcastic and yes she fits a stereotypical view of what a lesbian looks like but she is extremely smart, openly questions Dems all the time, is willing to and has brought on name Republicans and those she disagrees with (who also have brains) to her show and is willing to let her guest speak rather than shout them down.

Dyke sympathizer. Seriously, I'm the only one that brought her into the picture here cause she is so far off base it's not even funny. She may be smart, but she's a pundit with a cause and it's obviously so far to the left that she perverts the view people have of the media. She may openly question the Dems, but she doesn't give the same opportunity to Republicans. Her show is an avenue to Republican bashing and Right-wing media bashing while not allowing her viewers to form their own objective opinion. Of course the majority of you will not agree, but take the time to sit down and watch her show versus O'Reilly, or Beck and tell me how many times either one attacks the other channel or party. Maddow will win that battle hands down. She's a vicious and vile creature.

[kentatm]

Dyke sympathizer. Seriously, I'm the only one that brought her into the picture here cause she is so far off base it's not even funny. She may be smart, but she's a pundit with a cause and it's obviously so far to the left that she perverts the view people have of the media. She may openly question the Dems, but she doesn't give the same opportunity to Republicans. Her show is an avenue to Republican bashing and Right-wing media bashing with allowing her viewers to form their own objective opinion. Of course the majority of you will not agree, but take the time to sit down and watch her show versus O'Reilly, or Beck and tell me how many times either one attacks the other channel or party. Maddow will win that battle hands down. She's a vicious and vile creature.

wow. you are just flat ignorant of what she says then. Billo can't go through one show without attacking other news sources and calling people villains who disagree with him. Beck is hardcore conservative and bashes away all day and just the other day suggested people take to the streets with guns.

[boozehound]

ohh Rick. I've met him several times and think he is a nice enough guy but sometimes he just makes me shake my head.

I am pretty sure Texas (and every other Confederate state) gave up the right to secede as a prerequisite to rejoin the Union following the Civil War anyway
nah, texas has the right to secede, have a standing army or divide into 5 states whenever it wants. part of agreeing to join the US back in the day

[PistolPete]

Of course that's the response I'm going to get from a clown like you. The first response out of any of you is an insult. You're just highlighting the same thing I wrote and telling me I'm wrong.

Do me a favor, watch O'Reilly and Beck, cause you obviously have no clue what you're talking about and you'll see that they rarely bring up MSNBC or anyone of their anchors on their shows. But you turn on Maddow or that nutcase Olbermann and his "Worst Person in America" segment and Bill O'Reilly is always mentioned. How classless is that news organization??

[Warehouse]

we might as well secede, we don't need the rest of you ho ass states anyways

[JtotheIzzo]

Do me a favor, watch O'Reilly and Beck, cause you obviously have no clue what you're talking about and you'll see that they rarely bring up MSNBC or anyone of their anchors on their shows. But you turn on Maddow or that nutcase Olbermann and his "Worst Person in America" segment and Bill O'Reilly is always mentioned. How classless is that news organization??

lol does that count as an oxymoron?

seriously dude, the New York Times doesn't need an advertising department anymore because those clowns can't stop bringing them up.

they bring up MSNBC a lot, and now Beck has a hard on for Colbert, a comedian for crisesakes.

It is ok to have rightist views, just don't defend the clowns who pollute the airways with their self-aggrandizing BS.