LeBron James named NBA MVP today

[Scott Pippen]

UPDATE:

LeBron officially won. Kobe 2nd, Wade 3rd. Full voting results: http://www.insidehoops.com/nba-mvp.shtml

EARLIER:

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2009/05/lebron_james_to_be_named_nba_m.html


CLEVELAND -- According to a league source, LeBron James will be named the NBA Most Valuable Player this afternoon.
James has chosen to have the announcement at St. Vincent-St. Mary High School in Akron. All his Cavs teammates are expected to be there as well as representatives from Kia, which will give him a new car as part of the honor.


He will be the first Cav to win the honor in history and the second youngest ever to win the award behind Wes Unseld in 1969. James averaged 28.4 points, 7.2 rebounds and 7.6 assists this season, his sixth in the NBA.
Two weeks ago James finished second in Defensive Player of the Year voting and an upgrade in that area this season plus the Cavs franchise-record 66 wins were compeling to the 123 media voters. The award will be officially announced later today and he will be honored before the Cavs play the Hawks in Game 1 on the Eastern Conference Semifinals on Tuesday. Traditionally, NBA Commissioner David Stern is on hand to present the Maurice Podoloff Trophy in front the fans.


Having the honor given to him in the gym at SVSM was James' personal choice. It is a special place for him. His retired No. 23 jersey is on the wall and three state championship banners he won with the Fighting Irish hang in the rafters. When he made the announcement he was turning pro it was in the gym and he's had many photo shoots and filmed many commercials there as well. His first Sports Illustrated cover was shot there and he recently filmed a "60 Minutes" interview there. Still a resident of Akron, it is another sign of how loyal James is to his Akron roots.

As expected, but still very well deserved. :applause:

[chains5000]

Well deserved.

[Manute for Ever!]

It would be pretty funny to see a guy with as much cash as Lebron driving a Kia. :D

[chains5000]

It would be pretty funny to see a guy with as much cash as Lebron driving a Kia. :D
:oldlol: I was thinking the same.
I could imagine PB posting a Kia >>>>>> Ferrari thread or something.

[TruthKGRay3412]

Congrats to LeBron and Cavs fans.

[franchise#3]

He deserved it. Congrats to him :cheers:

[Heilige]

Congrats LeBron! :cheers:

[NuggetsFan]

I think everyone already seen this coming, but it's well deserved.

[S13M]

He deserved it. Congrats to him :cheers:
:applause:

[Manute for Ever!]

:oldlol: I was thinking the same.
I could imagine PB posting a Kia >>>>>> Ferrari thread or something.

:roll:

I forgot to add the second part to my original post: Congratulations, Lebron, well deserved.

[Meticode]

It would be pretty funny to see a guy with as much cash as Lebron driving a Kia. :D

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/Meticode/damian-n-car.jpg

LeBron James pictured here getting pumped up over his toy Kia Rio.

[catch24]

well deserved :cheers:

[NotYetGreat]

Truly the best performer this year. Cheers to him, so let's celebrate!:hammertime:

[EllEffEll]

:applause: Absolutely well deserved :rockon:

[Mikaiel]

James has chosen to have the announcement at St. Vincent-St. Mary High School in Akron.

Reason No. 539 why he's not going to New-York in 2010 :pimp:

[MeloMike]

Congratulations Lebron, well deserved, IMO.

[allball]

I've been watching basketball since 73'. (I was 6 years old). Really started to comprehend the game in 77'. have seen the entire careers of guys like Moses Malone, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Jordan etc.

With that said Lebron is one of the most deserving candidates in the history of the game.

I am a Witness

[LJJ]

I agree, pretty clear cut winner.

[Valliant13]

First of many. I shudder to think how good that kid is going to be in his prime. He was the first mega hyped basketball rookie of my era that didn't fold under pressure somewhat.

[White Mamba]

:applause: :cheers:

[AznTacoLover]

it was expected. congrats to to him. :cheers:

[wang4three]

First of many. I shudder to think how good that kid is going to be in his prime. He was the first mega hyped basketball rookie of my era that didn't fold under pressure somewhat.

You weren't around for Kobe or KG?

[Masterz313]

You weren't around for Kobe or KG?


neither were asked to immediately become the best player on their teams, thats the difference. the hype has been way bigger for lebron than those 2

[Valliant13]

You weren't around for Kobe or KG?

Kobe didn't really start getting that level of hype until a few seasons in. Hell, he was barely drafted in the Lottery (13th overall), and didn't even play that much his first year.

KG was superhyped, but until he went to Boston he had so little playoff success he seemed somewhat of a disappointment (in terms of all time greatness).

Lebron has lived up to the massive expectations of greatness from year one.

[ripthekik]

Hell, he was barely drafted in the Lottery (13th overall)
13th overall pick in the nba is barely drafted?? :roll: :roll:

[Meticode]

I hope they have a ceremony at the Hawks @ Cavs game on TNT Tuesday.

[chains5000]

13th overall pick in the nba is barely drafted?? :roll: :roll:
Drafted in the lottery, 1-14th.
Reading comprehension.

[White Mamba]

13th overall pick in the nba is barely drafted?? :roll: :roll:

He said "he was barely drafted in the Lottery" (1-14, Kobe was #13).

[Valliant13]

13th overall pick in the nba is barely drafted?? :roll: :roll:

Did you even read what you just quoted: Barely drafted in the LOTTERY- ie. the first 14 picks. Kids today.

[2LeTTeRS]

He said "he was barely drafted in the Lottery" (1-14, Kobe was #13).

Actually back that there were 29 teams in the league and 13 lottery picks [the Bobcats were added in 2004-05 to replace the Hornets]. Kobe was the last pick in the lottery in 96 and actually made us [Charlotte Hornets] deal him to LA for Vlade Divac. If Kobe never demanded that trade the Hornets would still be in Charlotte.

[DuMa]

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/Meticode/damian-n-car.jpg

LeBron James pictured here getting pumped up over his toy Kia Rio.

thats a chrysler

[dr8ked]

http://i39.tinypic.com/velwmb.jpg


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[brwnman]

Reason No. 539 why he's not going to New-York in 2010 :pimp:

They're going to present him a Kia in Cleveland, all the more reason to go to the Knicks and get bigger and better cars...

[Automajic23]

congradulations to lebron. I feel this is very well deserved.:applause:

[Toizumi]

Shocker

[Indian guy]

Easiest decision ever.

[lolwut]

He'd been front running for the last couple months. Well deserved.

[PleezeBelieve]

Crongrates to LeBron and me. we both worked very hard for this award. LeBron on the court, me on the intense internet boards.

Props to us. Than you.

[chains5000]

http://i39.tinypic.com/velwmb.jpg
:roll:

[Meticode]

http://i39.tinypic.com/velwmb.jpg

:roll:

[d-_-b]

It would be pretty funny to see a guy with as much cash as Lebron driving a Kia. :D
Yah, but I guess you would have to respect his humility, I remember reading about Jordan, who chose to receive a Chevy Blazer over a Corvette as a gift from a dealership.

[StroShow4]

Crongrates to LeBron and me. we both worked very hard for this award. LeBron on the court, me on the intense internet boards.

Props to us. Than you.

Maybe LeBron will give you the Kia as a token of his appreciation.

[hawkfan]

LeBron deserves it.

Second choice would be Mike Bibby.

Go Hawks!

[TakitoEspanoza]

Dirk should have won, sorry.

[All Net]

Congrats Lebron :cheers:

[DukeDelonte13]

Dirk should have won, sorry.
:oldlol:

that's funny.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

props to Lebron.

[DuMa]

i wonder who came in 2nd

[mlh1981]

Hopefully, this is the first of several.

and maybe there's another MVP award that he can grab at around mid-June :D

[B-Low]

wow 10 years ago i never woulda thought we'd actually have the league MVP on our team. Incredible :cheers:

[Toizumi]

LeBron deserves it.

Second choice would be Mike Bibby.

Go Hawks!

hahah nice one hawkie :rockon:

funniest guy on ish:bowdown:

[BigTicket]

Well deserved, and not at all surprising. Would like to see the voting totals though.

[BTrujillo]

congrats Lebron...well deserved :hammerhead:
:cheers:

[Mor'Fiyah]

i wonder who came in 2nd
Probably Wade.

[magic chiongson]

lebron imo is a runaway this year, i wonder how many 1st place ballots he got. he should have all of them :)

[crisoner]

Props to LeBron well deserved. :cheers:

[step_back]

it was an obvious choice, well done lebron! If he wins a chip this year we are at the beggining of the lebron era!

[BigTicket]

lebron imo is a runaway this year, i wonder how many 1st place ballots he got. he should have all of them :)

It will likely be similar to the years where Shaq and KG got their MVP, should be unanimous, but there's always some disenters out there.

[vert48]

Well deserved. He had a great season on the team with the best record. Easy call.

[BTrujillo]

Well deserved, and not at all surprising. Would like to see the voting totals though.

he separated himself from the others in the last month of the season...I would expect it to be near unanimous...even as a Kobe fan here...can't really see an argument against Lebron this season :hammerhead:

[KobeRules24]

Congrats to Lebron but that's all he's winning this season. Go Lakers!!!! :rockon:

[iggy>]

one of the most well deserved mvp's ever. he dominated across the board this year, on the nbas best team. the definition of an mvp.

[Torious]

Congrats to LeBron for an excellent season and a well deserved MVP award.

[DuMa]

they found PleezeBelieve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inkfq-b4Dp0

[Shepseskaf]

A bona fide, well-deserving MVP... what a novel concept.

Congrats LBJ.

[bdreason]

:applause:

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

much deserved.

props to lebron.
:cheers:

[Aidan]

Really deserves it. Congrats Lebron.

On a side note, was the MIP announced yet?

[Lebron23]

He Deserved it, and He almost won his first MVP back in the 2005-06 NBA Season. ( 2nd in MVP Voting.)

He had a dominating statsline, led his team to the best record in the NBA, best winning record at home, 4th Highest Per in NBA History, and he's also 2nd in the Defensive Player of the Year Voting.

But the Cavaliers Main Goal this season is to win the NBA Championship. Kudos to LeBron, and he's going to win more MVP Awards in the near future.

[GOBB]

NBA needs to change the rules back to what they were. Offensive players have far too much of an advantage. A guy like Bron you cant guard but in todays game its impossible for the most part. Change the rules back and he doesnt win MVP. Wade does.

j/k i love baiting people. altho the offensive player does have a big advantage. bron was deserving.

[KRAYZIE]

Congrats!:applause:

[Lebron23]

Best Statistical/Individual Season of LeBron James. ( Ages 18-24)

1. 2007-08 LeBron James (4th in MVP Voting)

30.0 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 7.2 apg, 1.8 spg, 1.1 bpg ( Only 3rd player in NBA History to averaged 30-7-7- In the Regular Season after Oscar and Jordan )

Cavaliers won 45 Games

2. 2005-06 LeBron James (2nd in MVP Voting)

31.4 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 6.6 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.8 bpg

Cavaliers won 50 Games

3. 2008-09 LeBron James ( 2009 NBA Regular Season MVP)

28.4 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 7.2 apg, 1.7 spg, 1.1 bpg ( 37.7 mpg)

Cavaliers won 66 Games (Tied for the 7th Best Regular Season Record in NBA History)

[elementally morale]

One of the most wonderful days in the history of mankind. The winner of the genetic lottery was the most deserving candidate since the dawn of western civilization. Throw it down big man, throw it down.

[dawsey6]

Congrats Lebron! Here's to this one not being the last. :cheers:

[Geandily]

Congrats on your victory LBJ

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/nov2008/4/5/684C8FA6-B99F-DEF4-A79A7E5D27AB88DD.jpg

[Legend D]

DON is happy

[InspiredLebowski]

Should've been Scot Pollard

[darius15]

No doubt about this one.

Congrats, Lebron, keep it up in the playoffs:cheers:

[RedBlackAttack]

I wasn't sure that I would ever see a Cavalier win the MVP, until that fateful day when the ping pong ball bounced the right way. Hopefully, this is the first of many LeBron has in a Cleveland uniform.

Congrats, Bron.

[GOBB]

Bron is about to fake crying right now. lol

[Mikaiel]

http://www.nba.com/playoffs2009/live1/

[GOBB]

What is Mike Brown wearing??? lol Looks like Carlton Banks.

[RedBlackAttack]

What is Mike Brown wearing??? lol Looks like Carlton Banks.
Come on, mane. Sweater vest is for thugs. :pimp:

[RedBlackAttack]

Bro... We really don't care about Kia. STFU and give Bron the floor.

[D-Rose]

Congrats LeBron, you'll have to wait a while for a title though :D

don't jump me

[DuMa]

speech is kinda sucking. stick to the script

[DuMa]

damn varejao really got braids

[GOBB]

Come on, mane. Sweater vest is for thugs. :pimp:

:oldlol: He has on shorts. Socks halfway up shin. Looks like a dork.

[RedBlackAttack]

F#cking SVSM... Lucky prep school bastards. I would have killed to be at something like this when I was in high school.

I think he is doing a pretty good job.

[GOBB]

Lebron is going to cry. He's breaking! He's breaking. Let it go Bron!

Niagaraa Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaals hahaa

[InspiredLebowski]

LeBron seriously just referenced Friday in an MVP acceptance speech

[DuMa]

man he is horrible at these kind of speeches

[RedBlackAttack]

Gloria is out of control, asking for someone to turn the AC on. She needs to relax.

[GOBB]

man he is horrible at these kind of speeches

You dont need to spam the thread saying the same thing. We get it. Sad part is you're going to mention this a good 4-5 times elsewhere. Get over it.



Gloria is out of control, asking for someone to turn the AC on. She needs to relax.

Sounds like AI moms :roll:

[RedBlackAttack]

Bron is treading on thin ice talking about his dad. I'm surprised he made it through that without shedding a tear.

[mlh1981]

DON is happy


Which is the most important thing of all.

[DuMa]

did he say 'when i leave'?

[mlh1981]

I bet he's really pumped to be the proud owner of a Kia.

[GOBB]

This is like the BET awards. Entourage on stage. hahahaaaa

[InspiredLebowski]

Being reminded this dude is still only 24 really is scary. How many of these things is he going to win?

[DukeDelonte13]

Delonte!

[DuMa]

flip cameras!

[InspiredLebowski]

Well that was anti-climactic, thought he was gonna hand out Rolexes or something

[RedBlackAttack]

He built that up like he was about to give them something great.

Flip cameras FTW!

[v-unit]

Who else thought he was going to pull out keys for range rovers from the bag?

[DuMa]

109/121 for first place votes.

[GOBB]

Flip cameras? Wth....he might as well pull one out and take a photo of his teammates with the trophy. Much like he takes photos (pretending like he does) during pregame introductions.

[DukeDelonte13]

109/121 for first place votes.


i had a feeling it was going to be a landslide

[and1]

Flip cameras? Wth....he might as well pull one out and take a photo of his teammates with the trophy. Much like he takes photos (pretending like he does) during pregame introductions.

the *****?

btw, anyone else feel like KIA totally sucks for putting up that marketing **** before the presentation to lebron?
how is that good for company image :-D

[Mateo]

Being reminded this dude is still only 24 really is scary. How many of these things is he going to win?

It's hard to say because the Cavs are not exactly built Spurs-style where they're going to be great for the next decade. And the teams he is supposedly considering going to in 2010 aren't very good either. So he could win somewhere between 1 to 7 more MVP awards depending on the circumstances.

[Lebron23]

109/121 for first place votes.


Who's 2nd and 3rd in the MVP Voting?

[dab0yech0]

He built that up like he was about to give them something great.

Flip cameras FTW!

Were they at least the Flip BlackBerry?

[DukeDelonte13]

It's hard to say because the Cavs are not exactly built Spurs-style where they're going to be great for the next decade. And the teams he is supposedly considering going to in 2010 aren't very good either. So he could win somewhere between 1 to 7 more MVP awards depending on the circumstances.


Cavs got a young core of Mo, Delonte, and Andy. I think they will be just as good next year.

[RedBlackAttack]

Who's 2nd and 3rd in the MVP Voting?
Kobe was second and Wade was third.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4135263

[GOBB]

the *****?

btw, anyone else feel like KIA totally sucks for putting up that marketing **** before the presentation to lebron?
how is that good for company image :-D

What are u lost on?



Were they at least the Flip BlackBerry

Yea

[Lebron23]

Kobe was second and Wade was third.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4135263


:cheers:

[Mateo]

Cavs got a young core of Mo, Delonte, and Andy. I think they will be just as good next year.

That's not a very good core.

[GOBB]

Best question of this speech. Answer it truthfully Bron!!!

[BFRESH44]

Best question of this speech. Answer it truthfully Bron!!!

He dodged that joint HARD. lol

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

this is the first of many MVPs to come, imo.

[SRZ66]

wow, i want to know the 12 idiots who didnt vote 1st for him. he honeslty covered every conceivable critera requirement for mvp this year. there isnt a single valid argument that any other player deserved it an yet almost 10% of the voters didnt think so?

[1~Gibson~1]

Congrats LeBron James. You earned it :applause:

[Lebron23]

wow, i want to know the 12 idiots who didnt vote 1st for him. he honeslty covered every conceivable critera requirement for mvp this year. there isnt a single valid argument that any other player deserved it an yet almost 10% of the voters didnt think so?

Skip Bayless
John Barry
Mark Jackson

[CLE[216]]

He dodged that joint HARD. lol

He's not going to promise anything. And anyway, he said he was going to renew his contract with the Cavs if they win it all, this year.

[GOBB]

And anyway, he said he was going to renew his contract with the Cavs if they win it all, this year.

Yet he didnt say that in this speech. Uh huh

[Meticode]

wow, i want to know the 12 idiots who didnt vote 1st for him. he honeslty covered every conceivable critera requirement for mvp this year. there isnt a single valid argument that any other player deserved it an yet almost 10% of the voters didnt think so?

Haters.

[D-Rose]

Haters.
There's always going to be biased voters.

[1~Gibson~1]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s222/cj73334/Lebron_James_Stats.png

HE ALSO LEADS HIS TEAM IN 4 CATEGORIES:


POINTS
REBOUNDS
ASSISTS
BLOCKS


:bowdown:
:applause:
:banana:
:rockon:

[GOBB]

wow, i want to know the 12 idiots who didnt vote 1st for him. he honeslty covered every conceivable critera requirement for mvp this year. there isnt a single valid argument that any other player deserved it an yet almost 10% of the voters didnt think so?

Yes there is.

[1~Gibson~1]

Yes there is.what is it?

[GOBB]

what is it?

Wade had stats, team success given a team with 2 rookies in the starting lineup and a top 3 defensive player of the year candidate.

:applause: Bron won it, but lets not act like a crime was committed he didnt get every last first place vote.

[CLE[216]]

Yet he didnt say that in this speech. Uh huh

I find it hard to believe that he's going to go somewhere else for a smaller salary, when he already has a shot at winning the championship with the Cavs. Oh yeah, and he built that giant house in Akron to collect dust, too.

[ROCSteady]

Congrats LeBron!!!! Well deserved. Turthfully could have only gone to King James this season. :applause:

However, I thought it was funny how 'loyal' they made him to be to Akron/Cleveland. I know he grew up there and SVSM was his place of establishing his legacy. However, when you GO OUT of your way to rep the Dallas Cowboys, New York Yankees, speak bout your childhood as a Chicago Bulls fan, loyalty is questioned w/ me. That always bothered me, esp when Cleveland has always had pro teams in football, baseball, and basketball. /rant

Anyhow, congrats King James. I love that you are a worthy rival to the NBA and to my Lakers for the ball this season perhaps.

[TheGame]

Congrats to Lebron! Well deserved, finally.

[GOBB]

']I find it hard to believe that he's going to go somewhere else for a smaller salary, when he already has a shot at winning the championship with the Cavs. Oh yeah, and he built that giant house in Akron to collect dust, too.

In bold thats the weakest argument ever. Something a kid would say. :oldlol:

Of course you find it hard to believe. You're a Cavs fan. :violin:

[Blue_Dog45]

Congrats LeBron. :applause:

[Fatal9]

If Lebron doesn't win this year, it will be a pretty big chokejob. He's got the best team, home court, the best team defense, an all-star and the best combination of shooters in the league. Cavs are easily the favorite, it would take a Nowitzki-esque choke from Lebron for them to lose.

[CLE[216]]

In bold thats the weakest argument ever. Something a kid would say. :oldlol:

Of course you find it hard to believe. You're a Cavs fan. :violin:

Only LeBron knows what he's going to do. I'm just pointing certain things out, reasons why I believe he will stay. Sure, he could sell his gigantic house, pack up his things and leave the Cavs forever. But it seems like he's too in love with Akron to ever leave the area.

Anyway, congratulations LeBron! Now break the curse!

[DonDadda59]

If Lebron doesn't win this year, it will be a pretty big chokejob. He's got the best team, home court, the best team defense, an all-star and the best combination of shooters in the league. Cavs are easily the favorite, it would take a Nowitzki-esque choke from Lebron for them to lose.

The Lakers zone will be his undoing...

[BallersTalk]

If Lebron doesn't win this year, it will be a pretty big chokejob. He's got the best team, home court, the best team defense, an all-star and the best combination of shooters in the league. Cavs are easily the favorite, it would take a Nowitzki-esque choke from Lebron for them to lose.
The Lakers are easily the favorite. LeBron is the best player in the NBA. But the Lakers have the best team. Take out Kobe from the Lakers and that team could still steamroll the West and win 55 regular season games.

[oh the horror]

I gotta tell you guys, the idea of CAVS vs LA in the finals is completely insane to me. I REALLY hope it goes down like that.

[Mikaiel]

LeBron had one 3rd place vote. WTF ?

[BallersTalk]

LeBron had one 3rd place vote. WTF ?
Probably that idiot Mark Jackson. Or Jemele Hill? Does she get a vote?

[Magic_Johnson]

Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Total

LeBron James, Cleveland 109 11 1 - - 1,172
Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers 2 56 52 8 2 698
Dwyane Wade, Miami 7 50 41 17 4 680
Dwight Howard, Orlando 1 3 17 63 23 328
Chris Paul, New Orleans 2 1 9 23 51 192
Chauncey Billups, Denver - - - 6 15 33
Paul Pierce, Boston - - 1 2 10 21
Tony Parker, San Antonio - - - 1 6 9
Brandon Roy, Portland - - - 1 4 7
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas - - - - 3 3
Tim Duncan, San Antonio - - - - 2 2
Yao Ming, Houston - - - - 1 1

[DonDadda59]

wow, i want to know the 12 idiots who didnt vote 1st for him. he honeslty covered every conceivable critera requirement for mvp this year. there isnt a single valid argument that any other player deserved it an yet almost 10% of the voters didnt think so?

The Culprits:

http://dailyyeah.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/chapelle-haters.jpg

[Fatal9]

The Lakers are easily the favorite. LeBron is the best player in the NBA. But the Lakers have the best team. Take out Kobe from the Lakers and that team could still steamroll the West and win 55 regular season games.
:oldlol: at Lakers winning 55 without Kobe. Who is going to score on the perimeter for them? Who is creating shots for Pau, Fisher, Ariza, Vujacic and the rest of the bench? There is a reason all the guys that come to LA shot 5-10% higher.

I've seen the Lakers play once without Kobe this season, when he fouled out against the Bobcats and I've never seen a team unravel that quickly. It was painful to see how awful Pau and Bynum were when the help defender could help on them instead of keeping an eye on Kobe. IMO the team wins 35-40 wins in the West.

[oh the horror]

The Time Haters strike again.

[Heilige]

Does anyone think there is a double standard; how many first place votes did Kobe get in 2005-2006 compared to Wade getting first place votes this season? :confusedshrug:

[oh the horror]

hah, okay, lets not be outrageous now....Lebron was the obvious MVP this year, but the Lakers are NOT a 55 win team without Kobe. Thats just absurd.

[DonDadda59]

The Time Haters strike again.

Oh the Horror, what can I say about your avatar that hasn't already been said about Afghanistan- bombed out and depleted :oldlol:

:cheers:

[BallersTalk]

:oldlol: at Lakers winning 55 without Kobe. Who is going to score on the perimeter for them? Who is creating shots for Pau, Fisher, Ariza, Vujacic and the rest of the bench? There is a reason all the guys that come to LA shot 5-10% higher.

I've seen the Lakers play once without Kobe this season, when he fouled out against the Bobcats and I've never seen a team unravel that quickly. It was painful to see how awful Pau and Bynum were when the help defender could help on them instead of keeping an eye on Kobe. IMO the team wins 35-40 wins in the West.
Have you watched the Lakers? They're probably the only team with that many players on offense with the ability to create. Odom, Pau, Fisher...None of them need help creating shots. And they can create shots for their teammates. I've seen on several occasions where the Lakers built/extended leads while Kobe was on the bench. Phil's brilliant triangle helps Kobe more than it does the other players because it gives him room to operate without the defense being able to focus in on him. If you want to see the real Kobe without all this help (even though he did have a lot of help anyway at the time), look no further than '04-'05. That's the real Kobe. 34 wins.

[Fatal9]

hah, okay, lets not be outrageous now....Lebron was the obvious MVP this year, but the Lakers are NOT a 55 win team without Kobe. Thats just absurd.
Pau had a MUCH better team assembled than this and he was in his absolute prime and he won 45-50 games while going 0-12 in the playoffs. But somehow with a less balanced and less talented team he'd lead them to 55 wins :oldlol:

[dyna]

If Lebron doesn't win this year, it will be a pretty big chokejob. He's got the best team, home court, the best team defense, an all-star and the best combination of shooters in the league. Cavs are easily the favorite, it would take a Nowitzki-esque choke from Lebron for them to lose.

Lakers?????

If Lakers doesn't win this year it will be a pretty big chokejob:no:

[oh the horror]

Okay, but even the Cleveland RESERVES took a full headed Sixers team to the LIMIT.


The RESERVES alone!


I dont think Cleveland, without Lebron gets enough credit.

[Mateo]

Pau had a MUCH better team assembled than this and he was in his absolute prime and he won 45-50 games while going 0-12 in the playoffs. But somehow with a less balanced and less talented team he'd lead them to 55 wins :oldlol:

Much better? How? The second best player was James Posey. Who was a 6th man when he moved to contending teams.

[BallersTalk]

Pau had a MUCH better team assembled than this and he was in his absolute prime and he won 45-50 games while going 0-12 in the playoffs. But somehow with a less balanced and less talented team he'd lead them to 55 wins :oldlol:
Not one player on those Memphis teams is better than Lamar Odom. Fisher i probably one of the Top 5 defensive PGs in the NBA and a knockdown shooter. BTW, Pau IS in his absolute prime. We all know how much you love Kobe but let's get real. He has a lot of help. And he's in the perfect situation. If the Lakers don't win it all this year, it's because as I've always believed, Kobe's not good enough to be the best player on a championship team. Greatest second fiddle ever, though.

[BallersTalk]

Okay, but even the Cleveland RESERVES took a full headed Sixers team to the LIMIT.


The RESERVES alone!


I dont think Cleveland, without Lebron gets enough credit.
In a meaningless regular season game? Whooopeeee. BTW, the Cavs lost that game.

[Fatal9]

:oldlol: at the idiot who thinks Fisher can consistenly create and make his own shot on a respectable FG%. Odom is too inconsistent and Pau has always been the type of player who is going to be unable to take over games. He works well when he can pick his spots (that's why he shooting career high FG%) but he is not someone you can expect to get you points when needed. I remember seeing Pau get absolutely shut down in the playoffs during the Grizzly days.

[Mikaiel]

Does anyone think there is a double standard; how many first place votes did Kobe get in 2005-2006 compared to Wade getting first place votes this season? :confusedshrug:

1st place votes :

Kobe in 05-06 : 22
LeBron in 05-06 : 16

Kobe in 06-07 : 2

LeBron in 07-08 : 1

Wade this year : 7

[CLE[216]]

In a meaningless regular season game? Whooopeeee. BTW, the Cavs lost that game.

Yeah, with Bron, Mo, Z, and Joe Smith resting, they lost by 1. Iggy and Miller each played 40+ minutes. I really don't even consider this game a loss. Szcerbiak almost had a triple-double with 21-8-8!

[Laker4Lyfe]

Why do people ALWAYS have to ruin every thread??? :banghead::banghead: This is NOT ABOUT KOBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D*MN some of you have friggen one track minds. You guys REALLY make ISH a f*cked up place a LOT of the time lately.

Congrats to Lebron the Cavs and their fans. :cheers::cheers:

[Fatal9]

Not one player on those Memphis teams is better than Lamar Odom. Fisher i probably one of the Top 5 defensive PGs in the NBA and a knockdown shooter. BTW, Pau IS in his absolute prime. We all know how much you love Kobe but let's get real. He has a lot of help. And he's in the perfect situation. If the Lakers don't win it all this year, it's because as I've always believed, Kobe's not good enough to be the best player on a championship team. Greatest second fiddle ever, though.
Dude, his memphis teams almost always had 5 or 6 guys average more than 10 ppg. They had Posey, Battier and many solid defenders and were rated as a top 5 defense during those days. :oldlol: at ANYONE who thinks Lakers would be a top 5 type of defense without Kobe.

They won 50 games with him averaging 17/8 on 48%. You are actually dumb enough to believe he carried that team?

[oh the horror]

In a meaningless regular season game? Whooopeeee. BTW, the Cavs lost that game.


The Sixers were fighting for a playoff standing, so it wasnt meaningless to them. They were actually trying! And they won by one point against the reserves, which i think is a testament to how good the Cavs are as a whole.

[TryToBeUnbias]

Not like this was a secret congrats to Bron


:applause: :cheers: :hammertime:

[Leviathon1121]

Are Laker/Kobe fans getting scared or something? Some of them trying to push their "Kobe has a worse team" agenda already. I have never in the history of this game seen a player as good as Kobe need so many excuses to be made by his fans.

[beasly15]

he deserves it. now, go win a championship and move to new york. don't get behind schedule, lebron.

[Lebron23]

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[oh the horror]

Are Laker/Kobe fans getting scared or something? Some of them trying to push their "Kobe has a worse team" agenda already. I have never in the history of this game seen a player as good as Kobe need so many excuses to be made by his fans.


Dont play yourself bro. No one is suggesting that at all.


I think both have good teams, but come on...acting like Kobe has this championship team, while Lebron plays for a Junior varsity squad is a bit much. Im saying they BOTH have GREAT teams whom they BOTH elelvate to greater status through their plays.


Lebron is more valuable to his team this year, yes, but the Lakers arent some championship contender without Kobe.

[KB8tHeGrEaT24]

I know it was LeBron then who Kobe Wade who else? How did the voting numbering go??

[OneMoreSucka]

The Cleveland Cavaliers star won what some expected to be a close vote in a slam dunk. He received 109 of a possible 121 first-place votes to easily outdistance Kobe Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers. James totaled 1,172 points in balloting by media members in the U.S. and Canada.

Bryant, last year's winner, got two first-place votes and finished with 698 points. Miami guard Dwyane Wade was third with 680 points and was named first on seven ballots. Orlando center Dwight Howard (328) was fourth followed by New Orleans guard Chris Paul (192).

So basically, a landslide.

[Myth]

Not exactly hard to find if you go to NBA.com and look at the official release.

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/04/mvp.release.20090504/index.html

[KB8tHeGrEaT24]

I was looking for that sh*t but didnt find it... i was lost and or lazy lol

[BallersTalk]

Dude, his memphis teams almost always had 5 or 6 guys average more than 10 ppg. They had Posey, Battier and many solid defenders and were rated as a top 5 defense during those days. :oldlol: at ANYONE who thinks Lakers would be a top 5 type of defense without Kobe.

They won 50 games with him averaging 17/8 on 48%. You are actually dumb enough to believe he carried that team?
The perimeter defense is the Lakers' greatest weakness this year. Kobe can't take any credit for how good the Lakers have been on defense. Kobe is easily the most overrated defender of all time.

[OldSchoolBBall]

They won 50 games with him averaging 17/8 on 48%. You are actually dumb enough to believe he carried that team?

They also won 49 games two years later with Gasol averaging 20.4 pts/8.9 reb/4.6 ast/1.9 blk/50.3% FG and no one else doing much of anything (Miller was ok, but pretty much every team has a 13-15 ppg scorer).

[Abraham Lincoln]

Dont play yourself bro. No one is suggesting that at all.


I think both have good teams, but come on...acting like Kobe has this championship team, while Lebron plays for a Junior varsity squad is a bit much. Im saying they BOTH have GREAT teams whom they BOTH elelvate to greater status through their plays.


Lebron is more valuable to his team this year, yes, but the Lakers arent some championship contender without Kobe.

Does thou need thy eyes examined?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2977334&postcount=136

[Mdog1]

It should have been unanimous.

[cotdt]

Lebron is season MVP, Kobe will be Finals MVP. What else is new?

[Mdog1]

Lebron is season MVP, Kobe will be Finals MVP. What else is new?
Well it would be extremely new if Kobe was finals MVP. He would be only the second player in history to win the FMVP on the losing team. Very impressive for Kobe.

[Dbrog]

Congrats Bronners on a great season :cheers:

BTW: This is Duncan's 1st season EVER to not be in the top 10 for MVP

[InspiredLebowski]

Damn, LBJ looks just like his mom.

[Mamba]

every kobe stan is crying themselves to sleep tonight.

ive been a fan of lebrons since 03-04 and it is quite amazing to see him finally have this trophie. i believed it was his in 05-06 but this year it was clear cut that he was the winner.

[Nets fan 93]

Well deserved :applause:

[#1SportsFan86]

I'm gonna stop hating on Lebron and say congrats because he was the best player in the NBA this season...I just wish ESPN would stop D***Riding so much.

[White Chocolate]

How did Kobe get more votes that Dwyane Wade?

[dynasty1978]

every kobe stan is crying themselves to sleep tonight.

ive been a fan of lebrons since 03-04 and it is quite amazing to see him finally have this trophie. i believed it was his in 05-06 but this year it was clear cut that he was the winner.

This is what I don't get. Even Laker and Kobe fans such as myself can manage to give Bron props and congrats on the award. I don't see too many of Kobe's fans raining on Bron's parade, quite a contrast to the Hate that Kobe got for winning MVP last year....pretty embarrassing for the haters really :rolleyes:

[KenneBell]

:applause:

[Mateo]

Did anyone else think that his interview on ESPN was a little disrespectful? I mean, I understand saying the right things and being team-first, but he didn't even act happy that he had one. He acted like it was no big deal, like winning the scoring title or something. I think it's a bit disrespectful to past winners to act like this.

[BallersTalk]

This is what I don't get. Even Laker and Kobe fans such as myself can manage to give Bron props and congrats on the award. I don't see too many of Kobe's fans raining on Bron's parade, quite a contrast to the Hate that Kobe got for winning MVP last year....pretty embarrassing for the haters really :rolleyes:
Do you know only Kobe fans call other people haters? You don't see people saying "Wade Hater" or "LeBron Hater". Says something about Kobe fans.

[White Chocolate]

Did anyone else think that his interview on ESPN was a little disrespectful? I mean, I understand saying the right things and being team-first, but he didn't even act happy that he had one. He acted like it was no big deal, like winning the scoring title or something. I think it's a bit disrespectful to past winners to act like this.


Not everyone reacts the same way. Would it have been more appropriate if he was thanking his momma the entire interview?

[dynasty1978]

Do you know only Kobe fans call other people haters? You don't see people saying "Wade Hater" or "LeBron Hater". Says something about Kobe fans.

So Wade and Bron don't have Haters? You sir are an idiot.

[Mateo]

Not everyone reacts the same way. Would it have been more appropriate if he was thanking his momma the entire interview?

It would have been better if he had acted like winning the league's most valuable player award was more than hassle, yes.

[dynasty1978]

It would have been better if he had acted like winning the league's most valuable player award was more than hassle, yes.

I just think he's got bigger goals in mind...nothing wrong w/staying non-chalant.

[BallersTalk]

So Wade and Bron don't have Haters? You sir are an idiot.
You sir need to improve your reading comprehension.

[dynasty1978]

You sir need to improve your reading comprehension.


ditto....read again.

[Vragrant]

How did Kobe get more votes that Dwyane Wade?

Wade got more first place votes than Bryant did for what it matters.

[White Chocolate]

Wade got more first place votes than Bryant did for what it matters.


Oh okay. Wade certainly deserved more first place votes than Kobe.

[b4uc.23]

grats bronbron! well deserved :D

[Silverbullit]

Congratulations, LeBron. Well deserved. :cheers:

A sidenote: Dirk recieved MVP votes for 8 straight years now (Duncan 12!).

[Lebron23]

grats bronbron! well deserved :D


He Deserved to win the MVP Award, but his main goal this season is to win the NBA Championship for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

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[shaoyut]

Go Lebron James!:cheers:

[1~Gibson~1]

Congratulations, LeBron. Well deserved. :cheers:

A sidenote: Dirk recieved MVP votes for 8 straight years now (Duncan 12!).:applause: but why?

[Heilige]

1st place votes :

Kobe in 05-06 : 22
LeBron in 05-06 : 16

Kobe in 06-07 : 2

LeBron in 07-08 : 1

Wade this year : 7


My bad. Owned. :D

[TheWitness]

no hating.

it was well deserved...

[xx03xx]

lebron and kobe have been the best since michael jordan..

anyway congrats to lebron.

[big baller]

I hate LeBron..congrats, but the real prize is not the regular season MVP, but the Finals MVP.


So in ahead of time, congratz Kobe :D

[BallersTalk]

I hate LeBron..congrats, but the real prize is not the regular season MVP, but the Finals MVP.


So in ahead of time, congratz Kobe :D
So Kobe's MVP last year was pffffft? And Pierce > Kobe?

[Mdog1]

I hate LeBron..congrats, but the real prize is not the regular season MVP, but the Finals MVP.


So in ahead of time, congratz Kobe :D
I'd concentrate on getting out of the 2nd round before we talk about your boy winning finals MVP. Heck even if he gets out of the 2nd then I think it will be next to impossible for him to win the FMVP on the losing team. Big props if he does though because he would only be the 2nd to do it.

[BallersTalk]

lebron and kobe have been the best since michael jordan..

anyway congrats to lebron.
That's something a young teen-aged casual fan would say.

Duncan? Shaq?

[Lodi Dodi]

That's something a young teen-aged casual fan would say.

Duncan? Shaq?

Yeah, they also forget how dominant Shaq was IN the Jordan era.

[RonySeikalyFTW]

So Kobe's MVP last year was pffffft? And Pierce > Kobe?

OWNED

Not that that's hard to do to a Kobe fanboy.

[R.I.P.]

Haha at the Hakeem/Robinson MVP story.

47pts later, Hakeem said to me (Kenny) I

[Lebron23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MendP4inwoI&feature=channel_page

LeBron James Receiving the MVP Award



[quote][B]Layups: It

[huskyfan07]

Just found a little write up of LeBron's MVP from one blogger.

http://www.aarontorres-sports.com/?p=690

[EricForman]

prime Jordan and prime Lebron playing on an all white 8th grade championship team. can they beat the Bucks in a 7 game series?

[Legend D]

prime Jordan and prime Lebron playing on an all white 8th grade championship team. can they beat the Bucks in a 7 game series?
No

[Lebron23]

http://images.cbssports.com/u/photos/basketball/nba/img11719703.jpg