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jmill
05-20-2009, 11:19 PM
Heh, that was a pretty obvious travel by Lebron.

JustinJDW
05-20-2009, 11:19 PM
Lebron changes his pivot foot, and the Refs let him get away with it?

Samurai Swoosh
05-20-2009, 11:19 PM
You're telling me? lol. I'm one of the biggest Jordan fans out there. I didn't say King of all time btw.

LeBron attacking the basket opened West in the corner. Great job by the KING. lol
I may have to ... you've been sucking the cream out of LeBron's shorts. LOL

I saw your youtube video.

:oldlol:

BigTicket
05-20-2009, 11:19 PM
Need to get a stop now, no more of these stupid fouls sending Orlando to the line.

GiveItToBurrito
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Heh, that was a pretty obvious crab dribble by Lebron.

Fixed.

Samurai Swoosh
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
DAMN LeBron with the bucket and the FOUL.

CLUTCHHHHHHH !!!!

jjayfive
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
can somebody get howard the ball...

wang4three
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Dwight needs to learn how to take a charge.

Maniak
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
LeBron, thats just sick!!!

TheGame
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Bron with the AND 1.

DonDadda59
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
WITNESS :bowdown:

Clocian-IGN
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
lebron ftmfw

NBASTATMAN
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Bron changes his pivot foot there.


he did change but he was bumped into that change...

Noob Saibot
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
wow...LeBron bucket and1, goodbye Dwight.

Richie2k6
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Lebron to get 50 tonight. Incredible.

bruceblitz
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
I may have to ... you've been sucking the cream out of LeBron's shorts. LOL

I saw your youtube video.

:oldlol:
LeBron and1!

Maybe you should check out my Jordan videos on:

http://youtube.com/mustseebbtv
http://youtube.com/theairjordanblitz
http://youtube.com/blitzmixes
or

http://youtube.com/bruceblitzconfession

Indian guy
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Big FT here.

Younggrease
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
How is that a foul? He went str8 up

Cavs2007Champs
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Bron changes his pivot foot there.

No it was just the camera angle.





Naw, I agree with you.

Jorn444Lakers
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Now THAT was clutch from Lebron

TryToBeUnbias
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
haha bull**** call on howard man tough luck lol:lol

KenneBell
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Can't stop the train.

Richie2k6
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Dwight's out?!?!?!

DuMa
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
goood game

bleedinpurpleTwo
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
THAT was a foul??? come on!
don't just HAND them the game.

GiveItToBurrito
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Turk iso at the top of the key leading to a step back three time?

YAWN
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
superstar call :lol

dwight even jumped backwards

Samurai Swoosh
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Lol, that's NEVER going to get called, especially at this time in the 4th
I know that ... still doesn't change the fact he blatantly traveled. Not as bad as that game winner against Washington in the Playoffs from 2006 ...

But yeah.

:oldlol:

chopchop20
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
WHERE'S THE FOUL????????????? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

RandomBalla55
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: at that call.

So, you can't even go straight up on defense?

bruceblitz
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Big FT here.

MVP, new career high. The guy just keeps getting better!

vert48
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Great play by Lebron!

Maniak
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Dwight's out?!?!?!
Thats only his 5th.

Indian guy
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
How is that a foul? He went str8 up

WOW...your hate has reached a new low. Seriously, how depressing is your life to spend all your time hating on a player in a basketball forum?

NBASTATMAN
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Dwight needs to learn how to take a charge.



Yep if he doesn't jump he could have taken a charge.. Though lebron is very good at changing his body in the air... Whatever that is...

BigTicket
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Lebron :rockon:

If he makes this FT we're up 2 with enough time left that Orlando can't go for the last shot.

Kujo
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Refs making sure the Cavs win. No way that was a foul on D.Howard.

raid09
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
How is that a foul? He went str8 up

That gets called all the time, on everybody in the league...

JustinJDW
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
****ing stupid. So the Refs let Lebron get away with a travel, but they will call a bull**** foul on Dwight?

David J. Stern
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
Everything is going according to plan. Calm down Ohio.


Sincerely,


The Commish

TryToBeUnbias
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
WOW...your hate has reached a new low. Seriously, how depressing is your life to spend all your time hating on a player in a basketball forum?
i didnt think it was a foul either :confusedshrug:

BigTicket
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
Only thing we can't let Orlando do is get an open 3 on this last play, anything else and its OT at least.

Samurai Swoosh
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
HUGE 3 from Rashard Lewis. DAMNNNNNN

YAWN
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
oh snaps lewis

bruceblitz
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
There needs to be an ISH referee thread where fans can analyze the refs. This is getting ridiculous (comments about refs, who freaking cares, it is what it is).

This game is set up for a LeBron game winner now.

amfirst
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
whoooooooo :lol

Richie2k6
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Lewis!!!

Indian guy
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
What a perfect offensive game from this team.

KenneBell
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Playoffs!!!!

Kevin_Garnett_5
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Lewis!!!!!

Kujo
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Damn, what a finish.

Both teams clutch.

magi
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Watch James go to the line on another bull**** call.
Howard should have never gotten foul.

vert48
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Bet the house on Lebron going to the hole.

Maniak
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Clutch. Clutch.

That was just sick. Awesome shot by Lewis.

JustinJDW
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
LEWIS! Maybe he does deserve all that money. :lol

Killbot
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
WITNESS THE POWER OF RASHARD LEWIS!!!

:hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime:

Gundress
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Why not....Hack-A-Ben Wallace?:confusedshrug:

L.Kizzle
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
BANG! oops wrong station.

MaxFly
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Rashad Lewis... wow...

jason816
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Varajao is stupid... Magic need a 3 to take the lead and he let him shoot...

Hammertime
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
That shot might just turn out to be worth $118 million.

Noob Saibot
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
nothing but net for rashard lewis...gawd, this game is better than last night.

Cavs2007Champs
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Rashard Lewis's 4th quarter>>>>>>> $126,000,000.

bleedinpurpleTwo
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
wow. I called Lewis out earlier and now he puts it in my face.
OK. 126 million dollar man.

YAWN
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
i know bron has been hot all night, but they cant let him waltz in for a dunk here..

GiveItToBurrito
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Aw man...I thought they might wait until there were two or three seconds left before they shot. Lebron's going to add another game winner to the ol' highlight real. God damn Dwight chose a bad time to foul out.

KeylessEntry
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
what a great game....

I have enjoyed watching every second of it

NBASTATMAN
05-20-2009, 11:24 PM
Now THAT was clutch from Lebron



WOW even more clutch three by lewis... Wow I cannot see the Magic losing vs the slow ass cavs... They may or may not win tonight but the Magic are just better...

plowking
05-20-2009, 11:24 PM
Lebron game winner. Everyone knows it coming.

Final statline for Lebron will read 51 points and a win.

KenneBell
05-20-2009, 11:24 PM
Game winning layups/and 1 coming by LBJ. :pimp:

InfiniteBaskets
05-20-2009, 11:24 PM
Magic should just foul LeBron on purpose and put him at the line then go for the game with like 12 secs remainig.

konex
05-20-2009, 11:24 PM
OMG LEAGUE OF CLUTCH!

So what kind of foul will they call for LeBron here? :roll:

justin43
05-20-2009, 11:24 PM
WHERE'S THE FOUL????????????? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Honestly, the refs are starting to give LeBron too much love to be calling crap like that.

Big three!!

Lets see if Orlando can get the stop they need to steal this game or the refs will call another D-Wade foul.:roll:

David J. Stern
05-20-2009, 11:24 PM
There needs to be an ISH referee thread where fans can analyze the refs. This is getting ridiculous (comments about refs, who freaking cares, it is what it is).

This game is set up for a LeBron game winner now.


Set up? He is just the greatest of all time. Watch.




Sincerely,


The Commish

mbell75
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
Rashard is clutch!

jmill
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
WOWOWOWWOW

This is the sickest game ever.

I can't believe this.

Lebron with a buzzer beater to win it.

Jorn444Lakers
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
Only thing we can't let Orlando do is get an open 3 on this last play, anything else and its OT at least.
Well, at least it wasn't open lol

GiveItToBurrito
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
Jesus Christ the tension...COME ON MAGIC!!!!!!

Richie2k6
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
Orlandoooooooo

bruceblitz
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
What an ugly finish. 1.0 seconds left with a jump ball? This one's over. Maybe they will review it and add time though.

Clocian-IGN
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
lol orlando wins. show up next time cavs

Killbot
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
Lol.

NBASTATMAN
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
That shot might just turn out to be worth $118 million.



I was thinking the same thing...

BTrujillo
05-20-2009, 11:25 PM
LeBron should have gone for a shot...refs would have given him the benefit of the doubt on a foul

mmsupra
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
yeaaaa baby:banana:

Indian guy
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Cleveland's not winning this series.

Maniak
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Wow. Tough loss.

Congrats to the Magic for taking game 1.

vert48
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
LOL

MaxFly
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Orlando with the game... These are some close conference finals games.

BTrujillo
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
WOW MoWill almost made that...holy **** that would have been an incredible shot

YAWN
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
whoa that almost went in.

damn lebrons insane game gone to waste

Kujo
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
I think Orlando will win this series. No joke.

Kevin_Garnett_5
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Orlando Wins?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

konex
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Bull**** the game is over refs!

ShowTime LA
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
hahahahahahhahahah

TryToBeUnbias
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
dam that almost went in

bruceblitz
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Cavs will come back with more determination and focus in game 2. I still think Cavs in 6. Great game by Orlando. Kudos to the Magic. Kudos to LeBron for playing lights out.

branslowski
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Amazing Game!!:applause: ....Magic's Will To Win Was Amazing!!

justin43
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Orlando steals one. Cleveland is not invincible. It is official. Book it.:pimp:

Edit: Couldn't edit due to problems connecting to this site last night.

Killbot
05-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Orlando Magic defeated teh Cavaliers! :bowdown: :bowdown:

mmsupra
05-20-2009, 11:27 PM
Can we get any any respect??? NOW

JustinJDW
05-20-2009, 11:27 PM
MAGIC WIN! :hammertime:

Noob Saibot
05-20-2009, 11:27 PM
orlando's best win these playoffs. lebron's worn out, get some rest man.

Meticode
05-20-2009, 11:27 PM
Disappointed in the loss, but wow what a great game to watch! Woot! :rockon:

Samurai Swoosh
05-20-2009, 11:27 PM
LeBron is sick, fatigued or hurt or something ...

Richie2k6
05-20-2009, 11:27 PM
Lebron looking like he just got shot....

chopchop20
05-20-2009, 11:27 PM
Is Le Brick faking the Paul Pierce injury? Do we need a wheelchair?

NBASTATMAN
05-20-2009, 11:27 PM
HA My basketball analysis is better than anyone on this board... Laker fans hate my opinions cuz they are true... Lebron is sick as hell but even he cannot make this team a champion.....

jmill
05-20-2009, 11:28 PM
WOW at how close that was.

Amazing game, so much fun to watch. Props to the Magic, I thought they had almost no chance after the 1st quarter.

YAWN
05-20-2009, 11:28 PM
uhmm wtf is wrong with bron right now?

the arena is so silent

AznTacoLover
05-20-2009, 11:28 PM
magic gets a steal in cleavand. lebron is just amazing.

bleedinpurpleTwo
05-20-2009, 11:29 PM
c'mon Lebron.
You played an amazing game. One of the greatest playoff performances of all time.
The locker room is behind you.

SoCalMike
05-20-2009, 11:30 PM
wtf with lebron.. he's always "hurt" and making sure everyone knows... kobe's finger pops out in a game and he pops it back in while still playing and thats about it.

man up bron!!!!



:pimp:

amfirst
05-20-2009, 11:30 PM
Orlando is going to win in seven. Dwight can slow down LeBron penetration. Only thing is for LeBron to be super hot with his jumper to win this series.

branslowski
05-20-2009, 11:30 PM
I hope LeBron is alright......If this was Kobe, it would be a whole Thread made about how he's faking it...:ohwell:

bleedinpurpleTwo
05-20-2009, 11:35 PM
c'mon Lebron.
You played an amazing game. One of the greatest playoff performances of all time.
The locker room is behind you.

wang4three
05-20-2009, 11:38 PM
He'll be fine. It's just seems like a cramp.

Mikaiel
05-20-2009, 11:47 PM
Motherf*cking piece of f*cking motherf*cking piece of stupid pedo-necro-zoophilia sh*t !!! What the f*ck Rashard Lewis ???!!!

VCMVP1551
05-20-2009, 11:48 PM
That was the most exciting game of the playoffs in my opinion. Sure there were some great games in the Bulls/Celtics series, but this is the Eastern Conference finals and the Bulls and Celtics weren't championship contenders.

49, 7, 8, 2 and 3 from Lebron, but Lewis hit 2 clutch shots to win the game. Howard was a beast with 30 and 14 on 14-20 shooting. I couldn't believe that Orlando came back when they were down by 16 in Cleveland.

Cannonball
05-20-2009, 11:49 PM
uuuuuuuuuughhhhhhhhhhhh gotta be ****ing kidding me

magi
05-20-2009, 11:50 PM
Damn Cleveland were basically 40-1 at home, Orlando took a dump on that and got HCA.

I expect Orlando to win this series in 6, like I said all along.

BigTicket
05-20-2009, 11:50 PM
Kudos to the Magic, they played one hell of a game.

Series is still wide open though. Cavs were down 0-2 the last time they made the ECF, ended up winning 4-2.

As it stands right now the Cavs will definetely win game 2 to tie it at 1-1, after that all we have to do is take one came in Orlando and we'll be heading home with homecourt advantage restored. Mike Brown needs to make some defensive adjustments though, Orlando had a hot shooting night, but even so we can't let them hit 55% for the game.

vert48
05-20-2009, 11:51 PM
Mike Brown is horrible. He literally has no clue how to coach.

206kid
05-20-2009, 11:51 PM
Great Game By Lebron. I don't Understand why he passed it the last play. No Killer Instinct tho.

NBASTATMAN
05-20-2009, 11:52 PM
[QUOTE=magi

Guy10
05-20-2009, 11:52 PM
Kudos to the Magic, they played one hell of a game.

Series is still wide open though. Cavs were down 0-2 the last time they made the ECF, ended up winning 4-2.


Edit: My bad, that wasnt the ECF.

I think they're gonna have a tough time winning in Orlando.

vert48
05-20-2009, 11:52 PM
When the game ended, the announcers were silent. They had no idea what to say. Kind of funny.

Mgamer20o0
05-20-2009, 11:52 PM
is this why they wanted to play boston?

Babalu
05-20-2009, 11:53 PM
great game. I told you guys not to count out orlando just because the cavs have been tearing people up left and right. Orlando has the means to win this series. Cavs better hold down the fort all 48 minutes in game 2.

HylianNightmare
05-20-2009, 11:53 PM
i really thought lebron was gonna try to tip it in on the jump ball:oldlol: . but thank you mo Williams for your clanker:cheers:

Meticode
05-20-2009, 11:53 PM
I'm disappointed in the loss, but wow what a great game to watch. Overall I'm happy I saw a great game. Woot! :rockon:

NBASTATMAN
05-20-2009, 11:53 PM
Great Game By Lebron. I don't Understand why he passed it the last play. No Killer Instinct tho.


DUH.. He only had like 4 players around him... I understand why he passed... This isn't the triangle where kobe gets to go on an island about 17 ft from the basket... Lebron doesn't have the players around him to do that.. The playoffs are about matchups...

brandonislegend
05-20-2009, 11:53 PM
great game. I told you guys not to count out orlando just because the cavs have been tearing people up left and right. Orlando has the means to win this series. Cavs better hold down the fort all 48 minutes in game 2.

Best avy on ish.

Gevz2kX
05-20-2009, 11:54 PM
Orlando steals one. Cleveland is invincible. It is official. Book it.:pimp:

huh? :wtf:

GiveItToBurrito
05-20-2009, 11:54 PM
I hope LeBron is alright......If this was Kobe, it would be a whole Thread made about how he's faking it...:ohwell:

If it was Kobe, he would be faking it :hammertime:

I keed, I keed :cheers:

OldSchoolBBall
05-20-2009, 11:55 PM
Terrible give-away by the Cavs. Probably one of the best performances in a loss ever by Lebron, but he was pretty quiet the last 6:00 or so. Turkoglu without another fantastic game distributing the ball.

Undisputed
05-20-2009, 11:55 PM
Rashad Lewis has been showing that he's worth the money that's being paid to him with his performance in the Playoffs. Incredible. The Magic gained my full respect with beating Boston in game 7 AT Boston, but now, they have my complete admiration. What a fun game to watch.

NBASTATMAN
05-20-2009, 11:55 PM
is this why they wanted to play boston?



YES.. Orlando kicked their buts all year long.. Except for one game..

bruceblitz
05-20-2009, 11:56 PM
Great Game By Lebron. I don't Understand why he passed it the last play. No Killer Instinct tho.
He dribbled into a trap, passed to open man, high iq. Faith in the team.

Mikaiel
05-20-2009, 11:57 PM
I've never been so angry in my life. We were up by like a gazillion points at halftime and we lost. I need to kill someone. I could kill a koala with my bare hands right now, and I think it's the one of the most cutest thing in the wolrd, that's how angry I am. Rashard Lewis, rot in f*cking hell.

Meticode
05-20-2009, 11:58 PM
What a great game, I hope the next one is this intense.

bruceblitz
05-20-2009, 11:58 PM
I've never been so angry in my life. We were up by like a gazillion points at halftime and we lost. I need to kill someone. I could kill a koala with my bare hands right now, and I think it's the one of the most cutest thing in the wolrd, that's how angry I am. Rashard Lewis, rot in f*cking hell.
:wtf:

bruceblitz
05-20-2009, 11:58 PM
What a great game, I hope the next one is this intense.
:cheers:

thejumpa
05-20-2009, 11:59 PM
Good game. They lost by 1 though...I can't see this outcome in another game though. I think Orlando is going to surprise people but I think they will get one more in Orlando and lose in 6.

Babalu
05-20-2009, 11:59 PM
First adversity that cavs have faces so far. Cleveland will come back strong in game 2. Looks like lebron had too long a break and got tired towards the end. Hopefully his team steps it up and lets him take a break next game.

Monster game by lebron though.

amfirst
05-21-2009, 12:00 AM
Magics are prob going to win the championship. Pick n pop, how r u suppose to guard that? Especially with the man child in the paint.

OldSchoolBBall
05-21-2009, 12:00 AM
Lewis beasted at the end. Btw, anyone else wondering why they didn't add another .5-1 second to the clock after that jump ball call? Seemed odd to keep it at the exact time the clock-keeper stopped it. I'm pretty sure they usually add some time.

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:00 AM
Terrible give-away by the Cavs. Probably one of the best performances in a loss ever by Lebron, but he was pretty quiet the last 6:00 or so. Turkoglu without another fantastic game distributing the ball.


8 pts 2 assists .. In the last 6 minutes.. Not bad 3-4 from the field 2-3 from the line.. Very good, his teammates just cannot guard the taller and more athletic orlando magic players.. I have said this all year...

Mikaiel
05-21-2009, 12:00 AM
I'm disappointed in the loss, but wow what a great game to watch. Overall I'm happy I saw a great game. Woot! :rockon:

I know you're a true fan, but how the hell can you be happy after that ? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Meticode
05-21-2009, 12:01 AM
I've never been so angry in my life. We were up by like a gazillion points at halftime and we lost. I need to kill someone. I could kill a koala with my bare hands right now, and I think it's the one of the most cutest thing in the wolrd, that's how angry I am. Rashard Lewis, rot in f*cking hell.

:oldlol: wow. Just calm down and understand it's just a game in the end man. I'm disappointed in the loss, but the game was so entertaining I really don't care about the loss. I don't know. I guess I'm a basketball fan before a Cavs fan. When the Cavs loss in the Finals to the Spurs it was the worst thing ever. Two completely boring teams AND the Cavs lose. :oldlol:

All in all I'm just disappointed absolutely no one stepped up to help James in the second half. Delonte hit one big shot, Williams hit one big shot and that's about all they contributed to the game. Our bench got outplayed and every player on the court got outplayed for the Cavs except LeBron. Someone's got to step up.

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:03 AM
Magics are prob going to win the championship. Pick n pop, how r u suppose to guard that? Especially with the man child in the paint.


Come on this works on the Cavs because they have two little guards and two slow ass front court players playing alongside Lebron.. Denver or the Lakers slow them down.. Boston almost beat them without KG...

west
05-21-2009, 12:04 AM
Shard finally learn something from his big brother,there are some big shots right there.:applause:

Take Your Lumps
05-21-2009, 12:04 AM
Keep sleeping on Orlando.

bleedinpurpleTwo
05-21-2009, 12:05 AM
Dont worry...the Cavs will still beat this Magic team in 7.
Magic played as well as they possibly can. The Cavs did not.

Mrofir
05-21-2009, 12:05 AM
:oldlol: wow. Just calm down and understand it's just a game in the end man. I'm disappointed in the loss, but the game was so entertaining I really don't care about the loss. I don't know. I guess I'm a basketball fan before a Cavs fan. When the Cavs loss in the Finals to the Spurs it was the worst thing ever. Two completely boring teams AND the Cavs lose. :oldlol:

All in all I'm just disappointed absolutely no one stepped up to help James in the second half. Delonte hit one big shot, Williams hit one big shot and that's about all they contributed to the game. Our bench got outplayed and every player on the court got outplayed for the Cavs except LeBron. Someone's got to step up.

I agree, if not for Lebron, this would have resembled that Denver-NO blowout. Not a single Cav showed up.. I expect a decisive Cavs win in game 2, and a nice series from that point out. This is looking way ahead, but if the Cavs lose this series, Cleveland fans can forget about Bron sticking around, imo

OldSchoolBBall
05-21-2009, 12:05 AM
8 pts 2 assists .. In the last 6 minutes.. Not bad 3-4 from the field 2-3 from the line..

Was it really that much? Didn't seem like it. Guess he's spoiled me. :oldlol:

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:06 AM
:oldlol: wow. Just calm down and understand it's just a game in the end man. I'm disappointed in the loss, but the game was so entertaining I really don't care about the loss. I don't know. I guess I'm a basketball fan before a Cavs fan. When the Cavs loss in the Finals to the Spurs it was the worst thing ever. Two completely boring teams AND the Cavs lose. :oldlol:

All in all I'm just disappointed absolutely no one stepped up to help James in the second half. Delonte hit one big shot, Williams hit one big shot and that's about all they contributed to the game. Our bench got outplayed and every player on the court got outplayed for the Cavs except LeBron. Someone's got to step up.


You should not be surprised.. HOw are two unathletic short backup guards and two slow unathletic bigs going to help lebron win a title..

Meticode
05-21-2009, 12:07 AM
I know you're a true fan, but how the hell can you be happy after that ? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Because I don't take it that seriously to heart. I'm disappointed of course, but I got other things to worry about in my life rather than being upset over a damn game when it's all said and done. Just not worth it to get upset over to me.

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:08 AM
Was it really that much? Didn't seem like it. Guess he's spoiled me. :oldlol:


Hey my clips will give up our first pick and baron davis along with any other three guys you want for Lebron...:lol

Mikaiel
05-21-2009, 12:09 AM
:wtf:

Excuse me, my team is not from Chicago, we've never won anything, so when my team has the chance to do something big, and they lose a big game like that, I think it's normal to go nuts like that ...


I guess I'm a basketball fan before a Cavs fan.

You know what ? I thought I was exactly like you before this game. I guess I was wrong ...

Diesel J
05-21-2009, 12:10 AM
heart breaker man:cry:

Mike should've taken Big Z and out of the lineup down the stretch. That damn pick and pop orlando kept running to expose Big Z and Andy killed the cavs down the stretch.:mad:

Win next game Cavs

Meticode
05-21-2009, 12:10 AM
You should not be surprised.. HOw are two unathletic short backup guards and two slow unathletic bigs going to help lebron win a title..

I never said I was surprised. I said disappointed. And I never said anything about winning a title. You just came out of the blue with some stuff there. :confusedshrug:

Kingwillball
05-21-2009, 12:11 AM
Come on this works on the Cavs because they have two little guards and two slow ass front court players playing alongside Lebron.. Denver or the Lakers slow them down.. Boston almost beat them without KG...


Don't bury the Cavs yet..The Magic won't continue to shoot this well all series and Lebron will get more help from the rest. BTW- Mo and Delonte are not the Problem the Problem is Z covering Howard and Verejo covering Lewis.

mmsupra
05-21-2009, 12:13 AM
Now that I finally can get on this thing with ISH running slow as hell, I would like to say ONE HELL OF A WIN! Lebron plays like a retard on crack pipe and we still win crazy.

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:13 AM
I agree, if not for Lebron, this would have resembled that Denver-NO blowout. Not a single Cav showed up.. I expect a decisive Cavs win in game 2, and a nice series from that point out. This is looking way ahead, but if the Cavs lose this series, Cleveland fans can forget about Bron sticking around, imo



Send lebron to the clips... LOL... There is no way he is going to win with this current team... Lebron has to do way too much to win against great teams.. Plus mo and delonte are too short to guard guys like petrius, lee, kobe, or ariza.. Even Alston kills Mo.. Mo is showing he is a regular season player.. Not to diss the guy but he is a shooter with no other ability.. And in the playoffs the shots get much harder.. Delonte is nice backup on most playoff teams.. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't he on the bench for Seattle two years ago.. And didn't they win like 20 games...

cotdt
05-21-2009, 12:13 AM
Terrible give-away by the Cavs. Probably one of the best performances in a loss ever by Lebron, but he was pretty quiet the last 6:00 or so.

The exact opposite of Kobe.

We are all WITNESSES to Lebron's Failure.

Meticode
05-21-2009, 12:14 AM
Excuse me, my team is not from Chicago, we've never won anything, so when my team has the chance to do something big, and they lose a big game like that, I think it's normal to go nuts like that ...



You know what ? I thought I was exactly like you before this game. I guess I was wrong ...

When Williams missed the last basket I was like "Damn, what a tough loss, but great game to watch." Turned off the TV and fed my daughter while ISH was messing up not letting me post because of the high traffic I'm guessing. I had done moved on, it's not worth it to get mad about. ;)

In the end Cleveland loss this game because they let the shooters get too open. Howard was beasting and we were still up by 16 at one point, but you can't let the shooters get open like that. Then I noticed gradually through the game the ball movement was giving the Cavs easy buckets and making them efficient in the first half. Then in the second half the ball stopped moving and the lead was taken away. You think they would learn this, or at least notice this during the game. You pass the ball around, you got a 10 point lead. LeBron dribbles the ball for 15 seconds you lose your 10 point lead. It's one of the most frustrating things to watch is how well they are able to move the ball, then for whatever reason they stop and have to take harder shots.

Kingwillball
05-21-2009, 12:14 AM
You should not be surprised.. HOw are two unathletic short backup guards and two slow unathletic bigs going to help lebron win a title..


Wow..talk about uninformed..did U miss Delonte Dunking baseline last series and Mo was an All star and had two 40+ scoring games this year. I will Agree that there Bigs should have been upgraded at the trade deadline.. Z is a statue.

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:16 AM
I never said I was surprised. I said disappointed. And I never said anything about winning a title. You just came out of the blue with some stuff there. :confusedshrug:


I know how you feel but this team is not that good.. Crazy thing is Brad daugherty just came out two days ago to say his 90's teams would beat this current cavs team.. Which I agree... The current Cavs team is truly a 50 win team with almost any other player in the league... Lebron is the best but good defenses will shut down a player who has no inside scoring and shooters who are having a hard time..

KenneBell
05-21-2009, 12:17 AM
The exact opposite of Kobe.

We are all WITNESSES to Lebron's Failure.
Please stop. You are making a fool out of yourself.

InfiniteBaskets
05-21-2009, 12:17 AM
Orlando shot a higher FG% a higher 3 point%, better % from the line, outrebounded Cleveland, had more assists than Cleveland, and still only won by a single point.

The only thing Cleveland had going in its favor was turnovers. And honestly, had LeBron not passed the ball to Delonte, but went up for a lay-up or dunk when he drove it in for the final play the Cavs prob wouldn't won.

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:18 AM
Wow..talk about uninformed..did U miss Delonte Dunking baseline last series and Mo was an All star and had two 40+ scoring games this year. I will Agree that there Bigs should have been upgraded at the trade deadline.. Z is a statue.


Any guards that have a decent game in this league will play much better alongside lebron.. Delonte is a nice player and yea I saw the dunk... But that was against the soft ass hawks... I give credit to delonte and mo for they play hard and as good as they can but there is no team in the league that could win with that backcourt... Than your bigs are slow and cannot provide inside scoring...

Mikaiel
05-21-2009, 12:19 AM
Then in the second half the ball stopped moving and the lead was taken away.

That's exactly why I'm frustrated ! Where was the ball movement in the second half ? Where was LeBron getting easy baskets in the low-post ?

And : Where the hell was the defense ? They shot 55.1% for the game ! That's not Cavaliers basketball ...

Kingwillball
05-21-2009, 12:19 AM
The exact opposite of Kobe.

We are all WITNESSES to Lebron's Failure.


LOL.. Give Lebron Kobes teamates and it is a guaranteed championship.

Fatal9
05-21-2009, 12:19 AM
So this Mikaiel guy just exposed himself as a lunatic...

Meticode
05-21-2009, 12:19 AM
I know how you feel but this team is not that good.. Crazy thing is Brad daugherty just came out two days ago to say his 90's teams would beat this current cavs team.. Which I agree... The current Cavs team is truly a 50 win team with almost any other player in the league... Lebron is the best but good defenses will shut down a player who has no inside scoring and shooters who are having a hard time..

All right.

Cannonball
05-21-2009, 12:20 AM
Also remember cleveland hasn't played in a **** load of time. You're gonna have some rust... Ya so they lose one at home but it was by one point on a miracle 3 by rashard... If we are gonna lose one at home this is the way to do it. Not get blown out. Plus MO and Delonte are not going to stay this cold. They are gonna come back and shoot the **** out of the ball on friday. 1-1 going back to orlando. If orlando doesn't drop a home game I would be very suprised.

Younggrease
05-21-2009, 12:20 AM
When Williams missed the last basket I was like "Damn, what a tough loss, but great game to watch." Turned off the TV and fed my daughter while ISH was messing up not letting me post because of the high traffic I'm guessing. I had done moved on, it's not worth it to get mad about. ;)

In the end Cleveland loss this game because they let the shooters get too open. Howard was beasting and we were still up by 16 at one point, but you can't let the shooters get open like that. Then I noticed gradually through the game the ball movement was giving the Cavs easy buckets and making them efficient in the first half. Then in the second half the ball stopped moving and the lead was taken away. You think they would learn this, or at least notice this during the game. You pass the ball around, you got a 10 point lead. LeBron dribbles the ball for 15 seconds you lose your 10 point lead. It's one of the most frustrating things to watch is how well they are able to move the ball, then for whatever reason they stop and have to take harder shots.

someone gets the reason for the lost. Lebron jocking got:

1)he was tired, played bad defense in the 4th
2) team was out of rhythm(shooters especially)
3) defensive intensity dropped

and there was no reason to do it...they were playing well before he was isolating for 15 seconds at a time

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:20 AM
The exact opposite of Kobe.

We are all WITNESSES to Lebron's Failure.


THIS BOY HERE IS A HATER... Is there a ignore button on ISH...

Yung D-Will
05-21-2009, 12:20 AM
LOL.. Give Lebron Kobes teamates and it is a guaranteed championship.

No Not at all. I know your not a real basketball fan if you don't know that a guarenteed championship dosen't exist.

Meticode
05-21-2009, 12:20 AM
So this Mikaiel guy just exposed himself as a lunatic...

For whatever reason, whenever I look at your avatar the first word that comes to mind is ***.

Cannonball
05-21-2009, 12:21 AM
someone gets the reason for the lost. Lebron jocking got:

1)he was tired, played bad defense in the 4th
2) team was out of rhythm(shooters especially)
3) defensive intensity dropped

and there was no reason to do it...they were playing well before he was isolating for 15 seconds at a time
they didn't start until orlando caught back up and no one could put the ball in the basket besides lebron?

ItsTwisted
05-21-2009, 12:21 AM
All of the Lakers fans here, laughing and cheering need to go grow up because that could have been us last night. Also some of the Lakers fan here complaining about the calls come on now, Bynum and Gasol get the same calls on them, and sometimes they go in our favor as well, it just the way the game goes seriously, no wonder people hate us so much. If anything the Lakers fans should be cheering the Cavs on, because do we seriously want to meet the Magic in the finals that is counting we get by the Nuggets.

The Magic is just too big in the inside I think for the Cavs to handle. Z can not guard Dwight and will have trouble with him the whole series unless Cavs decide to double team. Cleveland does not match up well with L.A or Orlando because of the bigs. Z and Varejao got outrebounded if I remember correctly both of the games they played against L.A, and the same thing is happening with Orlando. This is not anything against the Cavs, but the Lakers I think would be more comforntable playing the Cavs in the finals. However I believe the Cavs will pull it out in 6. You could clearly tell that they were rusty, and Lebron was hacing to do everything by himself.

Meticode
05-21-2009, 12:22 AM
someone gets the reason for the lost. Lebron jocking got:

1)he was tired, played bad defense in the 4th
2) team was out of rhythm(shooters especially)
3) defensive intensity dropped

and there was no reason to do it...they were playing well before he was isolating for 15 seconds at a time

it was pretty obvious the Cavs got stagnant on offense. Oh well, onto the next game!

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:22 AM
someone gets the reason for the lost. Lebron jocking got:

1)he was tired, played bad defense in the 4th
2) team was out of rhythm(shooters especially)
3) defensive intensity dropped

and there was no reason to do it...they were playing well before he was isolating for 15 seconds at a time



Well this is true he did hold the ball but when Lebron tried to give the ball to Mo he would give it back to him like the ball had the plague.. Z was missing good open shots, so was mo and delonte... Lebron played great but he looked beat .. Maybe because they didn't play in a while.. Either way Orlando wins this series no problem.. Unless Lebron avg's 50 pts... Most important of all is that ORLANDO KEPT SCORING...

Kingwillball
05-21-2009, 12:24 AM
No Not at all. I know your not a real basketball fan if you don't know that a guarenteed championship dosen't exist.


What I am saying genious is that Kobe has better talent around him and all Lebron needs is a decent amount of help and he will do the rest.

Mikaiel
05-21-2009, 12:24 AM
For whatever reason, whenever I look at your avatar the first word that comes to mind is ***.

??? What's wrong with Knuckles ? (who's wine and gold btw)

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:25 AM
All of the Lakers fans here, laughing and cheering need to go grow up because that could have been us last night. Also some of the Lakers fan here complaining about the calls come on now, Bynum and Gasol get the same calls on them, and sometimes they go in our favor as well, it just the way the game goes seriously, no wonder people hate us so much. If anything the Lakers fans should be cheering the Cavs on, because do we seriously want to meet the Magic in the finals that is counting we get by the Nuggets.

The Magic is just too big in the inside I think for the Cavs to handle. Z can not guard Dwight and will have trouble with him the whole series unless Cavs decide to double team. Cleveland does not match up well with L.A or Orlando because of the bigs. Z and Varejao got outrebounded if I remember correctly both of the games they played against L.A, and the same thing is happening with Orlando. This is not anything against the Cavs, but the Lakers I think would be more comforntable playing the Cavs in the finals. However I believe the Cavs will pull it out in 6. You could clearly tell that they were rusty, and Lebron was hacing to do everything by himself.
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If the Cavs are lucky to make it out of this series with a W.. Than either the Lakers or DENVER kicks their buts in the next round.. Charles barkley has said this all year.. When the Cavs play vs a good team they will have problems because of the matchups..

ChrisKreager
05-21-2009, 12:25 AM
Also remember cleveland hasn't played in a **** load of time. You're gonna have some rust... Ya so they lose one at home but it was by one point on a miracle 3 by rashard... If we are gonna lose one at home this is the way to do it.

See game 2 of Lakers/Rockets.

Underdog steals game 1, people jump to conclusions- and we all know what happened in the other three games at Staples between those two.

Meticode
05-21-2009, 12:25 AM
??? What's wrong with Knuckles ? (who's wine and gold btw)

No, I meant Fatal9's avatar. I mean look at the damn thing.

mmsupra
05-21-2009, 12:26 AM
Damn just got a new job, Magic just won , Im going to see my Fav Movie series EVER Terminator a little later on not 2 bad :banana:

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:27 AM
What I am saying genious is that Kobe has better talent around him and all Lebron needs is a decent amount of help and he will do the rest.


Kobe was smart as hell and kept CRYing until he got the talent around him.. Now the Lakers better win because they have the most talented team in the league... No more excuses for Laker fans.. This should be a slamdunk... I think the CELTICS WOULD HAVE WON AGAIN IF NOT FOR KG'S INJURY..

Kingwillball
05-21-2009, 12:28 AM
Well this is true he did hold the ball but when Lebron tried to give the ball to Mo he would give it back to him like the ball had the plague.. Z was missing good open shots, so was mo and delonte... Lebron played great but he looked beat .. Maybe because they didn't play in a while.. Either way Orlando wins this series no problem.. Unless Lebron avg's 50 pts... Most important of all is that ORLANDO KEPT SCORING...


We shall see..every team goese through adversity we shall see how Cavs respond. Cavs suffered tonight from long layoff but also having a cakewalk thus far with no close games so now they see what is like to be in a dogfight. I honestly think when they got big lead at half they thought Orlando would role over like the Pistons and hawks did plus guys were probably little gassed including Lebron not being in game shape and playing as many minutes in other games before this.

NBASTATMAN
05-21-2009, 12:29 AM
See game 2 of Lakers/Rockets.

Underdog steals game 1, people jump to conclusions- and we all know what happened in the other three games at Staples between those two.


The difference here is that orlando kicked the Cavs but this year in the regular season and have better players at every position except wherever lebron is playing.. The Lakers had problems with houston because YAO was injured.. Kobe kills yao on the pick and rolls .. Look at tonight Z was killed on the pick and rolls..I have written this for months..

TheGame
05-21-2009, 12:30 AM
Anyone got a link for inside the nba?

Kingwillball
05-21-2009, 12:31 AM
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If the Cavs are lucky to make it out of this series with a W.. Than either the Lakers or DENVER kicks their buts in the next round.. Charles barkley has said this all year.. When the Cavs play vs a good team they will have problems because of the matchups..


I disagree completely. This Orlando team is the only team that gives Cavs fits cause Of Lewis who is a 3 playing 4 and Howard who is a freak going against Guys who can't cover him. Both lakers and Nuggets have standard match ups that the Cavs match up with much better. On the Contrast if Cavs win this series they won't lose finals.

Babalu
05-21-2009, 12:33 AM
Kobe was smart as hell and kept CRYing until he got the talent around him.. Now the Lakers better win because they have the most talented team in the league... No more excuses for Laker fans.. This should be a slamdunk... I think the CELTICS WOULD HAVE WON AGAIN IF NOT FOR KG'S INJURY..

Celtics definitly would have went farther and would probably have made it to the finals again at least.

Babalu
05-21-2009, 12:35 AM
I disagree completely. This Orlando team is the only team that gives Cavs fits cause Of Lewis who is a 3 playing 4 and Howard who is a freak going against Guys who can't cover him. Both lakers and Nuggets have standard match ups that the Cavs match up with much better. On the Contrast if Cavs win this series they won't lose finals.


Um, didnt the lakers beat them twice this year by at least 10 points each time? Lakers can shut down lebron better then anyone i've seen this season.

Indian guy
05-21-2009, 12:35 AM
The one good that'll come out of this game(from a Cavalier perspective) is that Orlando will finally start getting the respect they deserve. This team won 59 games in the regular season and has dominated Cleveland the past 3 seasons. Yet all I heard coming into this series was whether Orlando would be able to avoid a sweep. Hopefully tonight's win changes how people start viewing 'em. You don't win 59 games w/o being great. You don't blowout the home team in a Game 7 w/o being great. You don't win IN Cleveland w/o being great.

jmill
05-21-2009, 12:36 AM
The exact opposite of Kobe.

We are all WITNESSES to Lebron's Failure.

As a Kobe fan, this is just dumb.

Kobe24
05-21-2009, 12:41 AM
I disagree completely. This Orlando team is the only team that gives Cavs fits cause Of Lewis who is a 3 playing 4 and Howard who is a freak going against Guys who can't cover him. Both lakers and Nuggets have standard match ups that the Cavs match up with much better. On the Contrast if Cavs win this series they won't lose finals.
Explain LA blowing out cavs both games then moron and Kobe makibg Lefake look like a 2nd grader?

Diesel J
05-21-2009, 12:44 AM
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If the Cavs are lucky to make it out of this series with a W.. Than either the Lakers or DENVER kicks their buts in the next round.. Charles barkley has said this all year.. When the Cavs play vs a good team they will have problems because of the matchups..

Nah, they have more conventional NBA lineups than Orlando. Orlando plays two 6 foot 10 guys that can shoot the 3 and take it off the dribble which gives the Cavs big men fits.

Kingwillball
05-21-2009, 12:44 AM
Cavs need to play Joe Smith More and Z less. Smith can at least matchup better with Lewis and Varejo is Quicker and can stay in front of Howard unlike Z. Cavs could also use Pavolic who didn't even play tonight but is a solid and athletic defender and use him on Turkalou and Let James Cover Lewis at the 4 at times.

Diesel J
05-21-2009, 12:45 AM
Explain LA blowing out cavs both games then moron and Kobe makibg Lefake look like a 2nd grader?


How many of those games did both delonte and Big Z play in?

Kingwillball
05-21-2009, 12:47 AM
Explain LA blowing out cavs both games then moron and Kobe makibg Lefake look like a 2nd grader?


First off U R a moron..Secondly Lebron is better than Kobe.. Finally I am saying LA uses a NORMAL offense where the PF plays underneath and they don't have a Howard to deal with. Z would match up alot better with Bynam. If Cavs get by Magic they won't lose.

Faberg
05-21-2009, 12:47 AM
I've never been so angry in my life. We were up by like a gazillion points at halftime and we lost. I need to kill someone. I could kill a koala with my bare hands right now, and I think it's the one of the most cutest thing in the wolrd, that's how angry I am. Rashard Lewis, rot in f*cking hell.

Chill man.

http://chicagoist.com/attachments/Lauri%20Apple/tissues.jpg

Diesel J
05-21-2009, 12:51 AM
...I think the beginning of the 4th when Lebron was sittin gor rest was the turning point of the game. Cavs were up 6-7 points which is an alright cushion and right when Lberon sits the Orlando hit them with a like a 7-8 to 0 run and took the lead. From that point on, Rashard gave them fits.

UCLA - Lakers
05-21-2009, 12:53 AM
What a terrific by LeBron James. 48/6/8 along with 2 blocks and 3 steals. It's a shame Mo Williams & Delonte West decided to take the night off.

This is a question directed to Cavalier fans: are you guys worried or confident about the Cavs' ability to win game two?

Lebron23
05-21-2009, 12:55 AM
Cavs are going to bounce back in Game 2. This time i expect his teammates to contribute in the 2nd half, and I hope they Cavs will improve their defense.

mmsupra
05-21-2009, 12:56 AM
Cavs are going to bounce back in Game 2. This time i expect his teammates to contribute in the 2nd half, and I hope they Cavs will improve their defense.

So u still have the Cavs in ? 6 or 7?

Diesel J
05-21-2009, 12:58 AM
What a terrific by LeBron James. 48/6/8 along with 2 blocks and 3 steals. It's a shame Mo Williams & Delonte West decided to take the night off.

This is a question directed to Cavalier fans: are you guys worried or confident about the Cavs' ability to win game two?


Im confident they'll win game 2. Cavs had a 16 point lead and had Orlando pretty much in control outside of Dwight. Cavs let their defense slip and let Orlando start running to the 3pt line and let Orlnado shoot 55 FG% for the game. Cavs will fix that next game.

Cannonball
05-21-2009, 01:00 AM
See game 2 of Lakers/Rockets.

Underdog steals game 1, people jump to conclusions- and we all know what happened in the other three games at Staples between those two.
exactly what I was thinking.

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:03 AM
Magic played great tonight and I give them a lot of credit for showing a hell of a lot of determination in making a huge comeback in the third quarter. However, let's not get crazy, people...

It is one game. If this were a five game series, I would be more concerned. It is never good to lose Game 1, especially on your homecourt, but there is still a LONG way to go. I highly doubt that the Cavs' bench and role players will have another horrific performance like this.

I think the Cavs got five points from the bench... Five.

...and Mo missed wide open three after wide open three. Looking at the way this team performed, I am somewhat amazed that it took a contested 27-footer by Lewis for the Magic to get the win.

All respect to Orlando, but I'm not overly concerned at this point. All teams deal with some adversity during the course of the season. Now, we find out how great this Cleveland team really is (or isn't).

BigTicket
05-21-2009, 01:06 AM
Next game will be when we see how the Magic truly are. I expect them to come out flat like they did in game two against the Celtics, simply satisfied with having taken one away from home. But if they bring it again, and show that killer instinct ? Series will be theirs.

See the thing is the Magic is probably a better team than Cleveland when playing at their best, but they aren't consistent.

Anyway its time for Mike Brown to show why he won COY and make some defensive adjustments. Cavs offense was fine tonight, it was the D that let us down.

inclinerator
05-21-2009, 01:07 AM
damn this is so sad, lebron played his heart out and the blood cramp thing at the end made this even more dramatic jeez.

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:10 AM
Anyway its time for Mike Brown to show why he won COY and make some defensive adjustments. Cavs offense was fine tonight, it was the D that let us down.
Defense was a problem, but five points from the bench is unacceptable... As is Delonte and Mo going a combined 10-32.

BigTicket
05-21-2009, 01:13 AM
Defense was a problem, but five points from the bench is unacceptable... As is Delonte and Mo going a combined 10-32.

Not everyone did a good job, but we got 106 points on 49% shooting, that has to be enough. If we can't win with that kind of offensive production then we aren't going to win, because we don't have the kind of team that can score 110+ on a nightly basis. What we have is the kind of team that can hold opponents below 90 on a nightly basis, and if you want to win you have to play to your own strengths, not try to beat an opponent at theirs.

Younggrease
05-21-2009, 01:13 AM
Defense was a problem, but five points from the bench is unacceptable... As is Delonte and Mo going a combined 10-32.

Cavs bench took 7 shots

Joe Smith shot 2-4
Wally 0-2
Big Ben 0-1

Ben isnt susposed to really score and the other guys who played couldnt get shots. They need shots and playing time to score

Cannonball
05-21-2009, 01:14 AM
Horrible game by the cavs and it took a miracle 3 for the magic to get the win?

Like I said I'll take that.... Wait until game 2 it's going to be a blow out. Cavs are just rusty from all the time off. They'll be back in form for game two and steal 3 or 4 in orlando

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:18 AM
Cavs bench took 7 shots

Joe Smith shot 2-4
Wally 0-2
Big Ben 0-1

Ben isnt susposed to really score and the other guys who played couldnt get shots. They need shots and playing time to score
Wally and Joe played 13 and 15 minutes, respectively. I saw both pass up shots several times during the course of the game. If those guys are going to be in the rotation for those kinds of heavy minutes, they need to produce more than five points and seven FGAs. It wasn't that they weren't getting the ball, although it would help if the Cavs had any offensive movement in the second half.

Here are the facts... The Cavs' bench went a combined 2-7 for five points... You aren't going to win many playoff games with numbers like that.

G-train
05-21-2009, 01:21 AM
I wouldn't say it was a horrible game by the Cavs. Horrible is too strong. I would say they lost defensive intensity in the second half and barely lost.

Brunch@Five
05-21-2009, 01:22 AM
When statpadding goes wrong...

Bron can't play Kobe-ball fpr 3 quarters and then expect his teammates to step up when he has to rest. He took like 8 shots in a row at one point. That's not team ball. As ironic as it sounds, Bron going on a rampage was part of the reason why his teamamtes underperformed (not necessarily the reason they lost. who knows)

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:23 AM
Not everyone did a good job, but we got 106 points on 49% shooting, that has to be enough. If we can't win with that kind of offensive production then we aren't going to win, because we don't have the kind of team that can score 110+ on a nightly basis. What we have is the kind of team that can hold opponents below 90 on a nightly basis, and if you want to win you have to play to your own strengths, not try to beat an opponent at theirs.
You also have to consider, though, that the only reason that the Cavs scored 106 points on such a high percentage was LeBron being out of his mind and pretty much carrying the offense. When he has to do that, it is going to have an impact on his defensive effectiveness, which has been key to the Cavs' success all year long.

Other guys have to step up offensively, lighten the load, and allow James to exert substantial energy defensively.

It just has to be a better team effort offensively against this team. And, when the bench guys get their minutes, they have to produce.

The second half of tonight's game looked more like the Cavs circa 2006, not 2009.

CLE[216]
05-21-2009, 01:25 AM
Depression. I know it's one game, but Jesus. These guys became relaxed, and the Magic took advantage. The first half, Cavs were so dominant. I have to give credit to the Magic, they knocked down shots when they needed to. Hopefully the Cavs just take this as a learning experience.

Big props to Lebron. Dude just played his heart out. The team just didn't show up.

Indian guy
05-21-2009, 01:26 AM
Bron going on a rampage was part of the reason why his teamamtes underperformed (not necessarily the reason they lost. who knows)

His teammates underperforming was a big reason why he had to go on a rampage to begin with.

G-train
05-21-2009, 01:26 AM
Wally and Joe played 13 and 15 minutes, respectively. I saw both pass up shots several times during the course of the game. If those guys are going to be in the rotation for those kinds of heavy minutes, they need to produce more than five points and seven FGAs. It wasn't that they weren't getting the ball, although it would help if the Cavs had any offensive movement in the second half.

Here are the facts... The Cavs' bench went a combined 2-7 for five points... You aren't going to win many playoff games with numbers like that.

that isnt heavy minutes. But its enough to do a little more than they did. At a maximum they could add another 6-8 points.
It was more so Williams not hitting shots.

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:27 AM
When statpadding goes wrong...

Bron can't play Kobe-ball fpr 3 quarters and then expect his teammates to step up when he has to rest. He took like 8 shots in a row at one point. That's not team ball. As ironic as it sounds, Bron going on a rampage was part of the reason why his teamamtes underperformed (not necessarily the reason they lost. who knows)
Agreed. Although, I don't think it was 'stat-padding.' He was just on fire and the Cavs had a huge lead, so he allowed his heat check to go a little too long. But, I agree with your overall point. LeBron is most effective as a facilitator who occasionally goes on scoring terrors.

It seemed to me that he was trying to control the offense a little too much from the middle of the first quarter until about the end of the third. In the process, the rest of the team completely fell out of rhythm and they couldn't regain it in the fourth.

As dominating as LeBron was tonight, this isn't the kind of game that I like to see out of him. The only stat I care about is the final score.

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:29 AM
that isnt heavy minutes. But its enough to do a little more than they did. At a maximum they could add another 6-8 points.
It was more so Williams not hitting shots.
In the playoffs, when your rotation is cut down to 7 or 8 guys, 12+ minutes is what I consider 'heavy.' Those guys were clearly put into the game to produce... They didn't.

We have other guys on the roster that can step in if those guys aren't going to add anything. Gibson only got three minutes... Sasha got no minutes.

All Net
05-21-2009, 01:30 AM
That was an amazing game, got to love playoff basketball even if you are a Cavs fan you have to admire that kind of game.

Cavs really did blow this, spoiling a great game from Lebron, big HT lead but the role players couldn't hit anything.

Mo Williams form has to be a concern.

Kingwillball
05-21-2009, 01:30 AM
Agreed. Although, I don't think it was 'stat-padding.' He was just on fire and the Cavs had a huge lead, so he allowed his heat check to go a little too long. But, I agree with your overall point. LeBron is most effective as a facilitator who occasionally goes on scoring terrors.

It seemed to me that he was trying to control the offense a little too much from the middle of the first quarter until about the end of the third. In the process, the rest of the team completely fell out of rhythm and they couldn't regain it in the fourth.

As dominating as LeBron was tonight, this isn't the kind of game that I like to see out of him. The only stat I care about is the final score.


Partially true but he had a similar game against Hawks but knowbody said anything cause they won. I think the Layoff and being in a tight gm some of the Role Players were hesitant shooting plus if Lebron is on he SHOULD SCORE. Rest of the team has to held accountable.

crisoner
05-21-2009, 01:32 AM
Bold statement Magic WILL steal game 1.


CALLED IT!!!!!

Check the first page!!!

magi
05-21-2009, 01:34 AM
I hate Mo William's cockiness. He acts like he's Michael Jordan out there, one of worst players in the league when it comes to sportsmanship.

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:37 AM
I don't know if this has been discussed because I have not been on the main forum for some time, but does anyone else think it is a bit unfair that the Magic got three days off after being taken to a Game 7 while the Lakers, who also went to a 7th game, only had a two day break?

I'm not complaining and I'm not sure if it would have made any difference, but that extra 24 hours of rest seems a bit unfair to LA/Cleveland... Especially when there are so many conspiracy theories about Stern wanting a Kobe/LeBron final.

Why did the Magic get an extra day?

G-train
05-21-2009, 01:38 AM
"This is good for us," Brown said. "We didn't expect to go undefeated."

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=290520005

That's dumb. I know what he is getting at, but its dumb.

Its not good getting poor bench production. Its not good allowing 60% shooting in the second half. You dont learn from it in the ECF.

It is what it is. A 0-1 deficit.

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:41 AM
It is what it is. A 0-1 deficit.
...and a loss of home court.

There may be some good that 'could' come out of this, but no one in their right mind thinks what happened to Cleveland tonight is 'good'... Unless you are rooting for the Magic.

All Net
05-21-2009, 01:41 AM
I don't know if this has been discussed because I have not been on the main forum for some time, but does anyone else think it is a bit unfair that the Magic got three days off after being taken to a Game 7 while the Lakers, who also went to a 7th game, only had a two day break?

I'm not complaining and I'm not sure if it would have made any difference, but that extra 24 hours of rest seems a bit unfair to LA/Cleveland... Especially when there are so many conspiracy theories about Stern wanting a Kobe/LeBron final.

Why did the Magic get an extra day?

I agree, it was formatted wrong in the first place...why the two game 7's weren't played on the saturday I don't know. Or even just play L.A/Houston on sat and Orlando/Boston on sunday.

magi
05-21-2009, 01:44 AM
I don't know if this has been discussed because I have not been on the main forum for some time, but does anyone else think it is a bit unfair that the Magic got three days off after being taken to a Game 7 while the Lakers, who also went to a 7th game, only had a two day break?

I'm not complaining and I'm not sure if it would have made any difference, but that extra 24 hours of rest seems a bit unfair to LA/Cleveland... Especially when there are so many conspiracy theories about Stern wanting a Kobe/LeBron final.

Why did the Magic get an extra day?

They want to have a basketball game every day. Game 7's were done on the same day, so one of the teams had to have the extra rest.

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:47 AM
[QUOTE=magi

15yearmagicfan
05-21-2009, 01:51 AM
Television should not dictate whether or not a team should get an extra day of rest while their opponent has been sitting around and waiting for them to finish for nine days. I understand how much pull the networks have, but that extra day may have made a significant difference... We will never know, I guess.

Cavs still had a 16 point lead and there was no reason to lose that game. But, I can't help but wonder...


I think your team has bigger problems then the magic getting an extra day off.. by the way it was TWO days off, not three genius.

Indian guy
05-21-2009, 01:53 AM
Not including the meaningless loss in Game #82 of the regular season, Cleveland's last REAL loss prior to tonight was against Orlando too. That was 47 days ago. 1st loss in 47 days. This one's gotta be hurting Cleveland bad.

15yearmagicfan
05-21-2009, 01:54 AM
Horrible game by the cavs and it took a miracle 3 for the magic to get the win?

Like I said I'll take that.... Wait until game 2 it's going to be a blow out. Cavs are just rusty from all the time off. They'll be back in form for game two and steal 3 or 4 in orlando


Cavs sunk a 70 footer at the buzzer and you think the magic win was a miracle? What is that now, like 7 of 9 they've taken from the cavs? 5 of 7 games won on the road in the playoffs?

Miracle?

It's Lebron and bunch of scrubs. There's your miracle.

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 01:59 AM
I think your team has bigger problems then the magic getting an extra day off.. by the way it was TWO days off, not three genius.
Whatever it was, it equated to one more day off than the Lakers got. Also, what are the team's 'bigger' problems? Being down 0-1?

No one is criticizing the Magic or taking anything away from their victory. In fact, if you look a couple of pages back, I did the opposite. You need to get out of 'attack' mode, especially before you have the proper understanding of the posters on this site to know who to attack and when.

Huey Freeman
05-21-2009, 02:03 AM
Cavs are just rusty from all the time off.
As soon as the game ended I predicted somebody would say this.

Cleveland looked pretty freaking awesome in the first two quarters.

magi
05-21-2009, 02:06 AM
How can a team play so well in the first half and then play so bad in the 2nd half, that's definitely not rust.

Makes no sense that it's because of rust.

G-train
05-21-2009, 02:10 AM
I really think the Magic just took their intensity up a notch after half time, and the Cavs didnt match it.

Realistically after game 1... Unless Mo Williams and Delonte continue to shoot poorly the Cavs should win this series. I'd like to see Big Z getting 3 or 4 more baskets also.

fiad06
05-21-2009, 02:13 AM
Television should not dictate whether or not a team should get an extra day of rest while their opponent has been sitting around and waiting for them to finish for nine days. I understand how much pull the networks have, but that extra day may have made a significant difference... We will never know, I guess.

Cavs still had a 16 point lead and there was no reason to lose that game. But, I can't help but wonder...

The Lakers and Rockets played at noon and the Magic and C's played at night.

All Net
05-21-2009, 02:14 AM
As soon as the game ended I predicted somebody would say this.

Cleveland looked pretty freaking awesome in the first two quarters.

Agreed

You can't use the rusty excuse when you start amazingly and are up 15 at halftime....just is not a valid excuse. L.A started bad and finished bad in game 1 vs Houston. This is totally different.

RedBlackAttack
05-21-2009, 02:14 AM
[QUOTE=magi

magi
05-21-2009, 02:16 AM
Not saying I agree with this, but it could be that, having so much time off (not just the past nine days, but all of the time after the Detroit series, as well) had an effect on the Cavs' conditioning. You cannot simulate game conditions in practice, especially when it comes to the playoffs. As the intensity kicks up in the second half and things get tight, physical exertion is kicked up a notch.

Personally, I think if you are going to blame anything other than the Magic just flat earning a victory, it is the fact that the Cavs have not had to actually fight, scratch and claw in a playoff game yet this post-season. When Orlando really started its run in the third quarter, the Cavs looked overwhelmed and not used to controlling the game.

That resulted in the team reverted back to circa 2006 'give LeBron the ball and hope he can beat them going 1 on 5' mode.

I completely agree about their conditioning possibly being a factor, but that is not really rust. Unless we have two different definitions of that word.

wally_world
05-21-2009, 02:29 AM
dayum wad a game, Shard has really stepped up in the playoffs... his 4th quarter was sick :cheers: