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Interminator
05-20-2009, 02:08 PM
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Outside of 50 Cent in 2002, I cant remember of a rapper recently who had as big of a buzz before putting out their 1st album.
Hes been all across the country touring to promote his upcoming album, and has another mixtape on the way.
When he drops he should move 250,000 in the 1st week.
Now to add to the buzz, hes dating Rihanna.
RIHANNA is officially over Chris Brown. The Barbadian beauty showed up with a group of friends Monday at Lucky Strike Lanes & Lounge on West 42nd Street, but spent most of the night locking lips with Canadian former child actor-turned-rapper Aubrey "Drake" Graham. "She was drinking whiskey and apple juice and making out with him all night," says a spy. "They were really cute together." RIHANNA, who's also been spending time in town with Katy Perry, peeled off with Drake at about midnight.
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dawsey6
05-20-2009, 02:14 PM
Really? I really haven't heard much about the dude ever since the mixtape was leaked.
and...
link? and it doesn't mean Rihanna is over Chris Brown.
phoenix18
05-20-2009, 02:24 PM
Drake is a terrible rapper. I am so sad that this guy is saying that he represents Toronto. When I heard that, I spit my damn grape juice out of my mouth just out of sheer shock. Go back to acting! Degrassi needs you! ha.
Spudjjay
05-20-2009, 02:26 PM
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Outside of 50 Cent in 2002, I cant remember of a rapper recently who had as big of a buzz before putting out their 1st album.
Hes been all across the country touring to promote his upcoming album, and has another mixtape on the way.
When he drops he should move 250,000 in the 1st week.
Now to add to the buzz, hes dating Rihanna.
http://imagesme.net/beautyhairstyles/rihanna-59th-bambi-award1.jpg
What? This kid has nowhere near the buzz 50 had. Stop making sh*t up, idiot.
Cannonball
05-20-2009, 02:34 PM
the dude is lame and now on top of that he got herpes.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cCOFWEcO-J4/SMnXxIYBqwI/AAAAAAAAAOg/9Ze1Qin96XY/s320/wiz-khalifa-pic1.jpg>>>>>>>>>>>drake
STelfair31
05-20-2009, 02:37 PM
drake isnt that bad, he's decent.. your forgetting about Wayne. THE CARTER III
dude looks like Obama haha.
Interminator
05-20-2009, 02:52 PM
Really? I really haven't heard much about the dude ever since the mixtape was leaked.
and...
link? and it doesn't mean Rihanna is over Chris Brown.
Yeah Drake's buzz has increased since then.
Heres a link about it:
http://www.rap-up.com/2009/05/20/is-rihanna-the-best-drakes-ever-had/
thejumpa
05-20-2009, 02:53 PM
drake isnt that bad, he's decent.. your forgetting about Wayne. THE CARTER III
dude looks like Obama haha.
If he slimmed down like 20 pounds he could be a stunt double :roll:
Everybody is talking about Drake but....I don't really anything out of the ordinary with him. Dude can rap, yeah, but....his buzz isn't even 5% of what 50's was....12 million sold and 100 million made...really?
50 cent buzz? lol Hell naw. I've only heard 2-3 songs tops from him. One is his latest single on the radio. And the other was a single he had a video for. The name skips my mind. 3rd song was with Lil Wayne where he ripped it.
Heard a DJ said he is going to be the next best thing to blown up and he mentioned like how 50 cent did. This kid is going to make noise. But i dont see the similar buzz unless I'm that out of touch. With 50 I heard all his material. Drake? Where do you get/hear it? Internet even buzzed with 50. Drake? Where do you see that? Eh
Interminator
05-20-2009, 02:58 PM
What? This kid has nowhere near the buzz 50 had. Stop making sh*t up, idiot.
Yup.
Of course 50 had a bigger buzz, he had the backing of Dre & Eminem and even had his own special on MTV before his album even dropped.
Drake's buzz is building from him having consistent airplay with "Best I Ever Had" although its not even a single, its getting airplay due to fan requests.:eek: Hes also doing shows all over the country and selling out, once again without a single, video, or even a release date for his upcoming album.
Name me another rapper who without ever releasing an album was able to do such a thing in not just 1 area but across the country.
His buzz is undeniable, from the internet to a hip hop fan working at Wendy's in Orlando.
Interminator
05-20-2009, 03:01 PM
If he slimmed down like 20 pounds he could be a stunt double :roll:
Everybody is talking about Drake but....I don't really anything out of the ordinary with him. Dude can rap, yeah, but....his buzz isn't even 5% of what 50's was....12 million sold and 100 million made...really?
Before an album.
50 & G-Unit dominated the mixtape circuit, and his buzz was undeniable for an entire year almost before Get Rich or Die Tryin dropped.
I still remember being in the passenger seat of my girlfriend's mother's car when they played In Da Club for the 1st time on Hot 97, 2 songs later they played it again.
Interminator
05-20-2009, 03:09 PM
50 cent buzz? lol Hell naw. I've only heard 2-3 songs tops from him. One is his latest single on the radio. And the other was a single he had a video for. The name skips my mind. 3rd song was with Lil Wayne where he ripped it.
Best I Ever Had isn't even a single, its been fan requested to the point where its getting steady radioplay in certain regions just like Uptown is with Bun B and Lil Wayne.
Neither are actual singles.
Heard a DJ said he is going to be the next best thing to blown up and he mentioned like how 50 cent did. This kid is going to make noise. But i dont see the similar buzz unless I'm that out of touch. With 50 I heard all his material. Drake? Where do you get/hear it? Internet even buzzed with 50. Drake? Where do you see that? Eh
You also have to take into account how important the internet & downloads are now in 2009 when compared to 50's buzz back in 2002.
Back then you still had to cop mixtapes from the barbershop,the trunk of a car, or on a table at some type of event like a HBCU homecoming,or a free Hip Hop show/festival depending on where you live.
Mixtapes could still be found on the internet but the popularity has excelled since then, where people primarily download them rather than purchase them for $5.
According to some people So Far Gone is a classic mixtape, go check it out.
thejumpa
05-20-2009, 03:22 PM
Before an album.
50 & G-Unit dominated the mixtape circuit, and his buzz was undeniable for an entire year almost before Get Rich or Die Tryin dropped.
I still remember being in the passenger seat of my girlfriend's mother's car when they played In Da Club for the 1st time on Hot 97, 2 songs later they played it again.
Mos def...
I hope Drake comes with some serious heat and turns it up a notch because rap is wack right now. "Best I Ever Had" gets maddd play in LA. I was super surprised....dude has no album/single/label/release date!
But, until he drops a...50 Cent Is The Future....Automatic Gunfire....God's Plan.....and steadily keeps up a heavy buzz...I can't believe the hype. I hope he steps out of Waynes shadow though..
HisJoeness
05-20-2009, 03:24 PM
I remember when he dropped his Room For Improvment Mixtape in '04.
A Loyal NJ Fan
05-20-2009, 03:25 PM
Buzz so big he could prolly sell a blank disk. :pimp:
Younggrease
05-20-2009, 03:26 PM
According to some people So Far Gone is a classic mixtape, go check it out.
Its definately up there for me...
"I want the money, money and the cars, cars and the clothes....I suspose....I just wanna be, I just wanna be successful"
That track is got me through finals
brwnman
05-20-2009, 04:44 PM
Buzz so big he could prolly sell a blank disk. :pimp:
haha! I was about to post that seeing the thread title...
dab0yech0
05-20-2009, 06:49 PM
Drake is blowing up in LA, hes having a show with Ryan Leslie next week at Cal State LA
KenneBell
05-20-2009, 07:12 PM
He's got some pretty good publicity. Dude is blowin' up.
1manfastbreak
05-20-2009, 07:19 PM
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Jimmy can walk now? thank god!
1manfastbreak
05-20-2009, 07:21 PM
Its definately up there for me...
"I want the money, money and the cars, cars and the clothes....I suspose....I just wanna be, I just wanna be successful"
lyrical genius
:bowdown:
Mr_Basketball#1
05-20-2009, 07:24 PM
lyrical genius
:bowdown:
that's the chorus dumb ass.
JayGuevara
05-20-2009, 08:02 PM
Before 50's album came out he/G-Unit had a mixtape or were predominantly featured on one like every week. There's no way that this dude is anywhere near 50's buzz then.
Cuz I have never heard of him outside the internet. Granted I rarely ever listen to the radio anymore, but I've never heard nobody talk about him, ever. So either the city of Detroit is way behind/isolated/something on his supposed buzz, or it's nowhere near as big as you're sayin.
To have a buzz like you're sayin, to me, he's gotta set the streets on fire and then flood em with ****. Like 50 back then, you consistently heard people bangin his **** down the block, you consistently saw new mixtapes/songs comin out, and you heard people talkin bout him. Like Gucci and Juice are doin. Bloggers and ISH and a relative handful of material simply don't cut it.
i seen hippos
05-20-2009, 08:07 PM
I'm embarassed to be from the same city as this man. lol
v-unit
05-20-2009, 08:08 PM
What he's lacking is an actual strong background, lol. People knock Kanye for coming from a low-middle class background...Drake went to Forest Hill, it's an all jewish rich school in a filthy rich area.
He just had a show here in Toronto with Bun B, almost all of my friends went, he was really good apperently.
When my album drop bitches'll buy it for the picture and ******'ll buy it too and claim they got it for their sisters
thejumpa
05-20-2009, 08:11 PM
What he's lacking is an actual strong background, lol. People knock Kanye for coming from a low-middle class background...Drake went to Forest Hill, it's an all jewish rich school in a filthy rich area.
He just had a show here in Toronto with Bun B, almost all of my friends went, he was really good apperently.
Damn, he went to a rich Jewish school? really?
It shouldn't matter though. He doesn't try to come off as this super gangsta dude anyway. But, if he ever gets into with someone in the game.....they are going to Rick Ross his ass:roll:
Big Al All day
05-20-2009, 08:12 PM
I don't really like him too much, but I've heard that best i ever had song, and that **** is SO catchy.
He isn't that great of a rapper, but the chorus of that song is way too catchy.
v-unit
05-20-2009, 08:12 PM
Damn, he went to a rich Jewish school? really?
It shouldn't matter though. He doesn't try to come off as this super gangsta dude anyway. But, if he ever gets into with someone in the game.....they are going to Rick Ross his ass:roll:
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Dude will probably get exposed as doing somethign stupid with a bunch of rich white friends.
Can't wait!
thejumpa
05-20-2009, 08:15 PM
Drakes gonna get caught with a carrot up his ass.....watch!
HAHAH
Big Al All day
05-20-2009, 08:15 PM
But no I don't think his buzz is that big, havn't heard anybody in MN talking about him really, I just checked out a few songs cuz a bunch of people on here were all over his dick for a while.
JayGuevara
05-20-2009, 08:20 PM
What he's lacking is an actual strong background, lol. People knock Kanye for coming from a low-middle class background...Drake went to Forest Hill, it's an all jewish rich school in a filthy rich area.
He just had a show here in Toronto with Bun B, almost all of my friends went, he was really good apperently.
Wasn't he in the Canadian Saved By The Bell? I think that's pretty much a wrap for street credibility right there.
I've never really listened to much of his ****, but I'm hoping he doesn't try to have similar subject material as Gucci, Jeezy, etc etc. Cuz niiggas are just gonna roll their eyes if it's an actor in a teenage sitcom that also came from an upper class neighborhood is talkin bout trappin, stackin, and gun clappin. So that limits his marketability substantially, he's got females and internet nerds and backpackers as his target audience. Look at the backlash when Ricky Ross got ousted as a prison guard. It didn't matter that he wasn't a fed or a detective or even a regular beat cop. He coulda been a meter maid or a rent-a-cop at a mall, but niiggas saw that badge, and that was that. Lyin bout it didn't help neither.
Interminator
05-20-2009, 09:04 PM
What he's lacking is an actual strong background, lol. People knock Kanye for coming from a low-middle class background...Drake went to Forest Hill, it's an all jewish rich school in a filthy rich area.
He just had a show here in Toronto with Bun B, almost all of my friends went, he was really good apperently.
Kanye's not from a low-middle class background.:oldlol:
His mother was a professor at Chicago State and his father is a photographer.
Street cred doesn't matter in Hip Hop anymore, anybody who says it does is clearly out of touch.
Interminator
05-20-2009, 09:07 PM
Wasn't he in the Canadian Saved By The Bell? I think that's pretty much a wrap for street credibility right there.
I've never really listened to much of his ****, but I'm hoping he doesn't try to have similar subject material as Gucci, Jeezy, etc etc. Cuz niiggas are just gonna roll their eyes if it's an actor in a teenage sitcom that also came from an upper class neighborhood is talkin bout trappin, stackin, and gun clappin.
Nah its none of that, just real music.
So that limits his marketability substantially, he's got females and internet nerds and backpackers as his target audience. Look at the backlash when Ricky Ross got ousted as a prison guard. It didn't matter that he wasn't a fed or a detective or even a regular beat cop. He coulda been a meter maid or a rent-a-cop at a mall, but niiggas saw that badge, and that was that. Lyin bout it didn't help neither.
Im sorry but which mainstream rappers are selling records with trap rap?
Even TI switched up to sell more records.
This new era of Hip Hop is primarily focusing on the clubs, but sometimes there are a few good sings that are catchy and become hits.
Make da trap say ayye isn't a top 10 hit.
I don't really get the buzz. He's not a bad rapper, but he uses autotune when sings (at least in the songs I've heard), which I can't tolerate.
He's the first rapper for Toronto, hell from Canada, that has a chance to really blow up in the mainstream rap world in the states.
JayGuevara
05-20-2009, 10:02 PM
Im sorry but which mainstream rappers are selling records with trap rap?
Even TI switched up to sell more records.
This new era of Hip Hop is primarily focusing on the clubs, but sometimes there are a few good sings that are catchy and become hits.
Make da trap say ayye isn't a top 10 hit.
And that's why I still bang Trap Muzik over Paper Trail personally. But them niiggas could diversify, they could make songs for the hos, songs for the clubs, and songs for the hood niiggas. Drake can never make songs for the hood niiggas, cuz it's completely and utterly false. Most rappers are, but generally it's not as blatant, like Ricky Ross.
Maybe that's why I've never heard of Drake outside of the internet, cuz Detroit isn't bangin that soft ****. Gucci and Juice set the streets on fire, Drake might have the internet goin nuts (word to Paul Wall) at best. I dunno about where any of you lived, but I remember when like half the city of Detroit was geeked up for the new Hot Boys (Let Em Burn) to drop. EVERYBODY was talkin bout that ****. I think it was approximately 12 niiggas in the city that were excited about The Carter 3. The streets do not check for or bang lame ****. And no matter how many suburban white children and females buy rap albums, the streets are what certifies you as a rapper.
Interminator
05-20-2009, 10:31 PM
And that's why I still bang Trap Muzik over Paper Trail personally. But them niiggas could diversify, they could make songs for the hos, songs for the clubs, and songs for the hood niiggas. Drake can never make songs for the hood niiggas, cuz it's completely and utterly false. Most rappers are, but generally it's not as blatant, like Ricky Ross.
Hood niigas don't buy the CD's, download your single, or request the song on the radio.
Thats what matters, and if you can sell your show out with women & knowledgable Hip Hop fans then you can be successful like Kanye.
Maybe that's why I've never heard of Drake outside of the internet, cuz Detroit isn't bangin that soft ****. Gucci and Juice set the streets on fire, Drake might have the internet goin nuts (word to Paul Wall) at best. I dunno about where any of you lived, but I remember when like half the city of Detroit was geeked up for the new Hot Boys (Let Em Burn) to drop. EVERYBODY was talkin bout that ****. I think it was approximately 12 niiggas in the city that were excited about The Carter 3. The streets do not check for or bang lame ****. And no matter how many suburban white children and females buy rap albums, the streets are what certifies you as a rapper.
This aint 1993, you can be successful or certified without the streets giving you a stamp of approval and most people dont care about that stamp anymore.
If you find a lane and can attract a fanbase why be worried about acceptance amongst a group that only respects people like themselves.
Gucci & Juice have street ***** fanbases, but they wont be accepted in the mainstream where the real money is at for a rapper.
Soulja Boy is a corny ass coon and he still is getting $60K for a show, trust me I know a promoter here in Baltimore who had to pay him that to get him to do a show.
Juiceman was down here about 2 months ago and he only had to pay him $12K for the show.
phoenix18
05-21-2009, 11:06 AM
I don't really get the buzz. He's not a bad rapper, but he uses autotune when sings (at least in the songs I've heard), which I can't tolerate.
He's the first rapper for Toronto, hell from Canada, that has a chance to really blow up in the mainstream rap world in the states.
What about Kardinal Offishall?
Younggrease
05-21-2009, 11:10 AM
Kanye's not from a low-middle class background.:oldlol:
His mother was a professor at Chicago State and his father is a photographer.
Street cred doesn't matter in Hip Hop anymore, anybody who says it does is clearly out of touch.
How much do you think profesors at Chicago State undergrad make? That is lower middle class to middle class...
If you think you have to be dirt poor to have an opinion or make hip hop then you out of touch with reality.
Dasher
05-21-2009, 11:18 AM
I have never heard him get any play in any part of Florida. He is a web phenomenon, and has yet to translate his e-buzz to street buzz. Until he is hot in the streets he won't matter, and god forbid he ever beefs with anyone.
@Younggrease: Ask Rick Ross if street cred matters. It is still important in mainstream hip hop and will always be.
phoenix18
05-21-2009, 11:19 AM
How much do you think profesors at Chicago State undergrad make? That is lower middle class to middle class...
If you think you have to be dirt poor to have an opinion or make hip hop then you out of touch with reality.
Some people think that way, but hey, maybe Kanye's family was broke at one time, you never know. In my life, my family went from making 300,000 to 0. Life is just a series of blind corners, at one point I was living in a 3000sq ft house with a movie theatre in the basement to sharing a room with my sister and rountinely hearing gunshots and having our car repossesed.
phoenix18
05-21-2009, 11:20 AM
I have never heard him get any play in any part of Florida. He is a web phenomenon, and has yet to translate his e-buzz to street buzz. Until he is hot in the streets he won't matter, and god forbid he ever beefs with anyone.
The sad thing is, he is a crossover rapper, that is going to sell a to white females because he was on Degrassi. That said, he will never have street cred, so he might as well tread lightly.
Younggrease
05-21-2009, 12:05 PM
I have never heard him get any play in any part of Florida. He is a web phenomenon, and has yet to translate his e-buzz to street buzz. Until he is hot in the streets he won't matter, and god forbid he ever beefs with anyone.
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Well I know in Newark(I did a biweekly program at a local high school) the kids were talking about Drake. The people I know in Trenton talk about him a lot as well. Drake isnt the type of rapper that seems like he will get into that stuff. He seems like he sings almost as much as he raps. I think he is gonna be big just based off the consistent quality of songs put out on his mixtape. There are a ton of songs that would be great singles.
The sad thing is, he is a crossover rapper, that is going to sell a to white females because he was on Degrassi. That said, he will never have street cred, so he might as well tread lightly.
My teenage cousins love him and say that everyone in school is buzzing about him. The kids in Newark love him as well. I think that he will sell to more all females not just white females.
JtotheIzzo
05-21-2009, 12:18 PM
music is meh, but I love how you guys all say this guy is doomed because a rapper has to be some kind of degenerate f*ckin wannabe or convicted felon scumbag to get any credibility.
no wonder sh*t is so f*cked up.:oldlol:
Interminator
05-21-2009, 12:19 PM
How much do you think profesors at Chicago State undergrad make? That is lower middle class to middle class...
Compared to who?
Thats more money than average, thats upper middle class definetly.
If you think you have to be dirt poor to have an opinion or make hip hop then you out of touch with reality.
Much like Detroit.
STelfair31
05-21-2009, 12:20 PM
drake doesnt really rap like a thug.. so he isnt fronting about anything..
Interminator
05-21-2009, 12:21 PM
I have never heard him get any play in any part of Florida. He is a web phenomenon, and has yet to translate his e-buzz to street buzz. Until he is hot in the streets he won't matter, and god forbid he ever beefs with anyone.
That doesn't matter.
If he can move 8,000 downloads in 2 hours off of his mixtape online then why does he care if the goons feel his music.
Some will respect the Birdman & Wayne stamp on Drake.
Dasher
05-21-2009, 12:27 PM
That doesn't matter.
If he can move 8,000 downloads in 2 hours off of his mixtape online then why does he care if the goons feel his music.
Some will respect the Birdman & Wayne stamp on Drake.If he could sell 8 thousand mixtapes out of his trunk, I would be impressed. That's what cats like 50 Cent, who you compared his buzz to have done. The cat on the Young Money/Cash Money roster who will actually have success is Ice Berg. He has already been on an actual charting hit, and will do Plies/Ross numbers when his record actually dropped because he has legit street buzz, and his fanbase which has similar demographics to Plies and Ross, has shown that they will actually buy records.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 12:30 PM
If he could sell 8 thousand mixtapes out of his trunk, I would be impressed. That's what cats like 50 Cent, who you compared his buzz to have done. The cat on the Young Money/Cash Money roster who will actually have success is Ice Berg. He has already been on an actual charting hit, and will do Plies/Ross numbers when his record actually dropped because he has legit street buzz, and his fanbase which has similar demographics to Plies and Ross, has shown that they will actually buy records.
Who the **** is Ice Berg?
Myspace?
Younggrease
05-21-2009, 12:33 PM
If he could sell 8 thousand mixtapes out of his trunk, I would be impressed. That's what cats like 50 Cent, who you compared his buzz to have done. The cat on the Young Money/Cash Money roster who will actually have success is Ice Berg. He has already been on an actual charting hit, and will do Plies/Ross numbers when his record actually dropped because he has legit street buzz, and his fanbase which has similar demographics to Plies and Ross, has shown that they will actually buy records.
so tweens don't buy records... a kid with the stamp of appoval from both nick toons and lil wayne wont be able to sell records? Parents wont buy that for there kids, kids wont be able to buy that without their parents getting mad. His song(b/c its not even a single) is played on NY radio stations almost non stop because its been requested so much.
Dont be surprised is others like "Sucessfull" start popping up on the the radio too...
Lets not forget he is now dating Rihanna which is gonna boost his popularity up big. I know this only b/c that was the radio all day
JtotheIzzo
05-21-2009, 12:33 PM
If he could sell 8 thousand mixtapes out of his trunk, I would be impressed. That's what cats like 50 Cent, who you compared his buzz to have done. The cat on the Young Money/Cash Money roster who will actually have success is Ice Berg. He has already been on an actual charting hit, and will do Plies/Ross numbers when his record actually dropped because he has legit street buzz, and his fanbase which has similar demographics to Plies and Ross, has shown that they will actually buy records.
yeah, why use the internet to reach millions when you can pump something out of your f*cking car on the corner of MLK and whatever.
What is it 1997?
You're hilarious!:roll:
BTW is this the sh*t that passes for hip hop these days?
Dasher
05-21-2009, 12:39 PM
Artist signed to Cash Money. Member of the Dunk Ryders of "F*ck The Other Side" fame. He is essentially the current king of South Florida. He also has shown that he will not go the Currency/Brisco route that Drake seems to be on. Actually relying on Young Money/Cash Money to actually release your album is folly. Club bangers make stars, and he already has "On My Way", "Stick Drill", and "On and On" tearing threw clubs in the South.
Dasher
05-21-2009, 12:41 PM
yeah, why use the internet to reach millions when you can pump something out of your f*cking car on the corner of MLK and whatever.
What is it 1997?
You're hilarious!:roll:
BTW is this the sh*t that passes for hip hop these days?Name a superstar created exclusively by the internet. You can't. All of the blog and internet mixtape darlings do not actually sell records. While cats like Gucci Mane and OJ Da Juiceman actually started out hand delivering their CDs to fans. Those two aren't household names nationally, but have sold records. A Lil Wayne has not been shown to actually be worth anything. None of his proteges have ever done anything.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 12:47 PM
yeah, why use the internet to reach millions when you can pump something out of your f*cking car on the corner of MLK and whatever.
What is it 1997?
You're hilarious!:roll:
BTW is this the sh*t that passes for hip hop these days?
:oldlol: :oldlol:
People still stuck in the 90's with that mentality, I dont even remember the last time I bought some new artists' CD he was hustling out of his trunk.
Rappers utilize Youtube & Myspace to get buzz,because millions of people are on there right now.
Dasher
05-21-2009, 12:50 PM
Youtube and the internet will never actually replace touring and actually being on the grind interacting with your fans. The internet makes music disposable, but solid fanbases are still grown from being out there.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 12:52 PM
Name a superstar created exclusively by the internet. You can't. All of the blog and internet mixtape darlings do not actually sell records. While cats like Gucci Mane and OJ Da Juiceman actually started out hand delivering their CDs to fans. Those two aren't household names nationally, but have sold records. A Lil Wayne has not been shown to actually be worth anything. None of his proteges have ever done anything.
http://highbridnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/souljaboy.jpg
Gucci Mane & OJ don't move records the way you think, they make their money through doing shows to their dedicated fanbase who downloads their music off of Limewire or Livemixtapes.
Hes not even Wayne's protege, Drake had buzz before he signed with Cash Money/Universal.
Its like when Game signed with Aftermath/Interscope and they thought putting him with G-Unit would give him a good co-sign to begin his career.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 12:58 PM
Youtube and the internet will never actually replace touring and actually being on the grind interacting with your fans. The internet makes music disposable, but solid fanbases are still grown from being out there.
Youtube & Myspace introudces an artist to a new fan, who may listen to his song, research him through the internet and find other songs, and then go check out his show when they come thru their city.
Thats the same way I discovered Lupe Fiasco,& Oj da Juiceman.
Now Im fans of both.
You can grow a more global fanbase through the internet.
Being out there will lead you to a strong fanbase in only a certain region or a few places outside of that region, Gucci Mane sells out in the south because of his following but he cant go to LA and sell out.
Dasher
05-21-2009, 12:58 PM
Souljah Boy was getting a lot of regional spin before the internet blew him up and his dance up nationally.
All of Gucci albums have been charted in the top 10 on the rap charts, and The Otha Side of the Trap was top 10 as well.
Hip hop has always been and will be regional. At the height of his fame 50 Cent could not sell out Atlanta and Birmingham, and his label had to gobble up the tickets.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 12:59 PM
Also you're forgetting that Drake's career is managed by the same people who manage Kanye's career,Lil Wayne's career,and Jeezy's career.
And hes not only from Canada, according to his wikipedia he spent summers in Memphis with his father.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 01:03 PM
Souljah Boy was getting a lot of regional spin before the internet blew him up and his dance up nationally.
You asked what superstar was created by the internet, Soulja Boy answers that question.
With Youtube & Myspace he would have been nothing more than another kid rapper doing dance songs at skating rinks & carnivals in the south.
All of Gucci albums have been charted in the top 10 on the rap charts, and The Otha Side of the Trap was top 10 as well.
You do realize it is not hard at all to chart in the top 10 on the rap charts, most of the time there are only 2 or 3 new rap releases and the rest are popular rap albums that still have strong 2nd,3rd,4th,or even 8th week sales.
If your new album can't move more units than an album thats been out for 7 weeks, espescially with the backing of major labels like Atlantic Records & Asylum Records(In the south) then you need to hang it up and go to Koch.
JayGuevara
05-21-2009, 01:08 PM
Hood niigas don't buy the CD's, download your single, or request the song on the radio.
Thats what matters, and if you can sell your show out with women & knowledgable Hip Hop fans then you can be successful like Kanye.
This aint 1993, you can be successful or certified without the streets giving you a stamp of approval and most people dont care about that stamp anymore.
If you find a lane and can attract a fanbase why be worried about acceptance amongst a group that only respects people like themselves.
Gucci & Juice have street ***** fanbases, but they wont be accepted in the mainstream where the real money is at for a rapper.
How would you know? :oldlol:
And I never said you can't be successful without the streets backing you, but you better stay in your lane. All I said is he better not try and use the same subject matter as Jeezy, Gucci, etc. He needs to find his nice with white kids and females and the internet nerds or whatever, but the day he tries to drop a track like this ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojHDd-2bKec ) niiggas are just gonna roll their eyes and laugh. Nobody wants to hear Zack Morris talk about trappin stackin and gun clappin. That's the moral of the story.
And Gucci and Juice are damn near major. Gucci and/or Juice are tryin to get like Bun B a couple years ago, on everybody's ****.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 01:09 PM
Hip hop has always been and will be regional. At the height of his fame 50 Cent could not sell out Atlanta and Birmingham, and his label had to gobble up the tickets.
But Drake sold out in Atlanta not that long ago, without even reaching the height of his fame.
He'll sell out in Miami,Orlando,Jacksonville,Tampa or any major city in Florida because there will be enough women & knowledgable male Hip Hop fans to be there and support him at his show.
Best I Ever Had peaked at #12 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart and #5 on the Hot Rap Tracks chart without it being an official single.
You can't even download it on iTunes, yet you want to question him having a consistent fanbase.
Dasher
05-21-2009, 01:11 PM
Actually in a 50 Cent like situation, his tickets were gobbled up by his label. I had friends go to that concert for free.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 01:18 PM
How would you know? :oldlol:
Because I'm more hood than you.
And I never said you can't be successful without the streets backing you, but you better stay in your lane. All I said is he better not try and use the same subject matter as Jeezy, Gucci, etc. He needs to find his nice with white kids and females and the internet nerds or whatever, but the day he tries to drop a track like this ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojHDd-2bKec ) niiggas are just gonna roll their eyes and laugh. Nobody wants to hear Zack Morris talk about trappin stackin and gun clappin. That's the moral of the story.
So there aren't black people who dont listen to trap rap?:rolleyes:
If he can find his lane amongst knowledgable Hip Hop fans who pay attention to his music's content, and among females then he will still have a huge fanbase and still sell records because there are so few good rappers that actually have crossover potential.
And Gucci and Juice are damn near major. Gucci and/or Juice are tryin to get like Bun B a couple years ago, on everybody's ****.
Guci & Juice aren't major, until they are featured on a crossover single they can continue to appear on other rapper's songs without a majority of non Hip Hop fans knowing who they are.
Even Bun B ended up on a crossover single with Check Up On It, and Jay-Z's Big Pimpin.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 01:25 PM
Did anybody listen to Drake's So Far Gone mixtape?
He covered so many ****ing bases of music its crazy that people dont think he has crossover potential.
Crossover Alternative Hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cii17Zh7b7s
Crossover R&B/Rap Hit Featuring Trey Songz & Wayne:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcDpsjbCok
Crossover R&B/Rap Hit Featuring Lloyd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVuNTbB5Qc4
Club hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbKsEloxSrA
phoenix18
05-21-2009, 01:29 PM
Did anybody listen to Drake's So Far Gone mixtape?
He covered so many ****ing bases of music its crazy that people dont think he has crossover potential.
Crossover Alternative Hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cii17Zh7b7s
Crossover R&B/Rap Hit Featuring Trey Songz & Wayne:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcDpsjbCok
Crossover R&B/Rap Hit Featuring Lloyd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVuNTbB5Qc4
Club hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbKsEloxSrA
Dude, you need an oxygen tank? It must be hard to breathe in Drake's pants.
JayGuevara
05-21-2009, 01:30 PM
Because I'm more hood than you.
So there aren't black people who dont listen to trap rap?:rolleyes:
If he can find his lane amongst knowledgable Hip Hop fans who pay attention to his music's content, and among females then he will still have a huge fanbase and still sell records because there are so few good rappers that actually have crossover potential.
Guci & Juice aren't major, until they are featured on a crossover single they can continue to appear on other rapper's songs without a majority of non Hip Hop fans knowing who they are.
Even Bun B ended up on a crossover single with Check Up On It, and Jay-Z's Big Pimpin.
:roll: :roll: Dasher, myself, and cartmanclone are the only three posters on ISH that look at our iced out Breitling's and see that it consistently says "GOON TIME'
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/115coverhouseadnew.jpg
Along with the streets on fire, the love in the hood, the constant mixtapes, and cover and predominant spread in a major magazine, it looks like Gucci and Juice are relatively major. Also, note where Drake's name and the size of the font is on the cover. It's like I Spy. :oldlol:
And you're still not understanding what I'm sayin, that Drake can be successful by finding his niche (aka NOT hood niiggas) and sticking with that and not tryin to go outside that niche, because it won't work well, like Lil Wayne's guitar playing.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 01:32 PM
Dude, you need an oxygen tank? It must be hard to breathe in Drake's pants.
Im just defending Drake who through his mixtapes has shown the potential to be one of the more versatile rappers of our generation.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 01:54 PM
:roll: :roll: Dasher, myself, and cartmanclone are the only three posters on ISH that look at our iced out Breitling's and see that it consistently says "GOON TIME'
I guess you must enjoy being a simple minded coon.
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/115coverhouseadnew.jpg
Along with the streets on fire, the love in the hood, the constant mixtapes, and cover and predominant spread in a major magazine, it looks like Gucci and Juice are relatively major. Also, note where Drake's name and the size of the font is on the cover. It's like I Spy. :oldlol:
I'd rather be mentioned in Hood2Hood with Mos Def & Asher Roth than be featured on a cover with them as if I was endorsing their music.
And you're still not understanding what I'm sayin, that Drake can be successful by finding his niche (aka NOT hood niiggas) and sticking with that and not tryin to go outside that niche, because it won't work well, like Lil Wayne's guitar playing.
Drake can appeal to actual hood ****** who get ***** & can respect lyricism on the topics he discusses.
You can't listen to Gucci & Juice 24/7, you need to balance out your diet before you believe you are one of them and try to live their music.
i seen hippos
05-21-2009, 02:02 PM
I guess you must enjoy being a simple minded coon.
I'd rather be mentioned in Hood2Hood with Mos Def & Asher Roth than be featured on a cover with them as if I was endorsing their music.
Drake can appeal to actual hood ****** who get ***** & can respect lyricism on the topics he discusses.
You can't listen to Gucci & Juice 24/7, you need to balance out your diet before you believe you are one of them and try to live their music.
Or you could go on a diet of not listening to horrible music at all. It would be like the iron man diet, except replace the ommission of junk food with junk music. How much hotter would you look? Girls would dig that I think.:rockon:
JayGuevara
05-21-2009, 02:28 PM
Drake can appeal to actual hood ****** who get ***** & can respect lyricism on the topics he discusses.
You can't listen to Gucci & Juice 24/7, you need to balance out your diet before you believe you are one of them and try to live their music.
No, that's why they appeal to us, because we can relate. I can relate to trappin gettin money, stackin gettin honeys, whippin it till it's chunky then flippin it to some junkies. I cannot relate to rich Jewish neighborhoods, teenage sitcoms, Canada, etc etc.
Drake doesn't appeal to me. Without the Wayne affiliation and therefore adoration of suburban white children, he'd be another Charles Hamilton, a corny internet rapper.
1manfastbreak
05-21-2009, 04:26 PM
that's the chorus dumb ass.
and your point is..that his hook's lack good lyrics too?
got it. thanks dumbass.:rolleyes:
Younggrease
05-21-2009, 04:54 PM
I agree with Jay. I relate to everything Gucci says. From 18.5 a chicken to Rich kids at School use to jaw my shoes, to Ni-gga wanna jump me and take my Starter jacket, to red rag in my pocket same ckolor my vette is. I relate to it, and other hood ni-ggaz relate to Gucci and Juice.
Drake can never have that, because he didn't live that so it would sound fake if he started talking about that.
who said he wants it...Not everyone wante to portray that lifestyle. He said he wants to continue acting and be kinda like Will Smith.
Listened to mixtape. Sorry not feelin this spitting over r & b tracks, soft shyt.
He can spit but he isnt doing it right.
J.Cole is tight tho. He spits over hard tracks. Drake needs to do it more. Enough of this cake shyt.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 10:55 PM
Listened to mixtape. Sorry not feelin this spitting over r & b tracks, soft shyt.
He can spit but he isnt doing it right.
J.Cole is tight tho. He spits over hard tracks. Drake needs to do it more. Enough of this cake shyt.
He even claimed he did So Far Gone to show his versatility and his album won't be in that lane.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 11:03 PM
That's The WHole point, ass..
He can't relate to the street side,at all.
Some rappers,when their mainstream falls apart or lags for certain periods ,they can fall back on the streets.
i.e. Lil Boosie
Once again whether he can relate doesn't matter, if he stays in his lane and doesn't have to create an image like most of these street rappers do then he will be successful.
If he can write a song and use his lyricism to tell a story about the street then maybe a street ***** will give him a listen.
But when he starts talking about 17 5 then its officially a wrap for him in terms of credibility, but chances are people would still feed into it.
Interminator
05-21-2009, 11:09 PM
No, that's why they appeal to us, because we can relate. I can relate to trappin gettin money, stackin gettin honeys, whippin it till it's chunky then flippin it to some junkies. I cannot relate to rich Jewish neighborhoods, teenage sitcoms, Canada, etc etc.
Shut up, you know you never did this.
You probably bagged up weed for your homeboy, now you think you got experience around work.:rolleyes:
Drake doesn't appeal to me. Without the Wayne affiliation and therefore adoration of suburban white children, he'd be another Charles Hamilton, a corny internet rapper.
Drake doesn't appeal to you because you are a simple minded coon.
I bet you probably think listening to R&B songs makes you soft too.:oldlol:
How you ****** actually come onto the internet with that dumb **** is beyond me, like you really trap while spending all day on ISH.
Younggrease
05-22-2009, 01:21 AM
That's The WHole point, ass..
He can't relate to the street side,at all.
Some rappers,when their mainstream falls apart or lags for certain periods ,they can fall back on the streets.
i.e. Lil Boosie
again why would he care...unlike them he has other talents besides rapping
thejumpa
05-22-2009, 01:41 AM
Shut up, you know you never did this.
You probably bagged up weed for your homeboy, now you think you got experience around work.:rolleyes:
:roll: whippin it to it's chunky then flippin it to some junkies? ***** you listen to wayyyyyyy to much Gucci...
Drake doesn't appeal to you because you are a simple minded coon.
I bet you probably think listening to R&B songs makes you soft too.:oldlol:
How you ****** actually come onto the internet with that dumb **** is beyond me, like you really trap while spending all day on ISH.
Dudes kinda right though. I think his Wayne affiliation helped with his buzz and gave him a bigger fanbase. Without the bull**** hype the media/other wack rappers/folks on the net put into some artists...dude would be another rapper who is just hot to people on the net. Nothing wrong with that but....I really can't see anything special besides his ability to out rhyme his mentor and act lol
NotYetGreat
05-22-2009, 09:36 AM
I'm sorry for my ignorance, but how comes it seems as if I've never heard of this guy?
Interminator
05-22-2009, 01:53 PM
I'm sorry for my ignorance, but how comes it seems as if I've never heard of this guy?
Because your only internet source is the library.
Interminator
05-22-2009, 01:56 PM
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh9x67iK95zX63pE42
Drake's hype is astounding, they sing it word for word.
Spudjjay
05-22-2009, 01:57 PM
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh9x67iK95zX63pE42
Drake's hype is astounding, they sing it word for word.
Why the **** do you care so much? Are you getting a cut? Get off his d!ck.
Interminator
05-22-2009, 02:08 PM
Why the **** do you care so much? Are you getting a cut? Get off his d!ck.
Should I tell you?
canadianballer
05-22-2009, 05:29 PM
finally i can post ive wanted to post here since ive been banned
DRAKE IS SOOOOOO SICK. anyone who doesnt like his rap is just a hater :oldlol: "no street cred:roll" he doesnt rap like he is some hard core thug for gods sake
get off his nutsh aters hes sick
emsteez forreal
05-22-2009, 05:39 PM
finally i can post ive wanted to post here since ive been banned
DRAKE IS SOOOOOO SICK. anyone who doesnt like his rap is just a hater :oldlol: "no street cred:roll" he doesnt rap like he is some hard core thug for gods sake
get off his nutsh aters hes sick
says CANADIAN baller
i seen hippos
05-22-2009, 05:48 PM
finally i can post ive wanted to post here since ive been banned
DRAKE IS SOOOOOO SICK. anyone who doesnt like his rap is just a hater :oldlol: "no street cred:roll" he doesnt rap like he is some hard core thug for gods sake
get off his nutsh aters hes sick
I don't hate him and I think he sucks.
Why exactly would someone become a hater of a chump who hasn't really done anything at all yet anyways?
Interminator
05-22-2009, 06:54 PM
finally i can post ive wanted to post here since ive been banned
DRAKE IS SOOOOOO SICK. anyone who doesnt like his rap is just a hater :oldlol: "no street cred:roll" he doesnt rap like he is some hard core thug for gods sake
get off his nutsh aters hes sick
Sorry about telling you to kill your mother.
Fatal9
05-22-2009, 07:08 PM
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh9x67iK95zX63pE42
Drake's hype is astounding, they sing it word for word.
Ever been to a concert/show before? That's usually what happens :confusedshrug:
Interminator
05-22-2009, 07:10 PM
Ever been to a concert/show before? That's usually what happens :confusedshrug:
Name his single.
Oh wait he has none.:eek:
Name his album.
Oh wait he has none.:eek:
Name his mixtapes.
Oh wait hes made 3.:eek:
Younggrease
05-22-2009, 07:11 PM
Ever been to a concert/show before? That's usually what happens :confusedshrug:
they know all the words to your mixtape tracks...Really I dont go to many concerts but is that how it goes for guys who have never put up a single
emsteez forreal
05-22-2009, 07:17 PM
Name his single.
Oh wait he has none.:eek:
Name his album.
Oh wait he has none.:eek:
Name his mixtapes.
Oh wait hes made 3.:eek:
does it matter? mixtapes might as well be labeled as albums. i can name a few lil' wayne mixtapes i'd take over tha carter 3 anyday. and most of the beats on so far gone are original beats, except for ignorant shit, so it could pass as an album.
Fatal9
05-22-2009, 07:18 PM
That concert was in Toronto. He is on at least one or two times EVERY hour on the radio so save the "single" BS. Right now, he gets more play here than Kanye, Wayne and whoever else. This was a club of probably around 750-1000 people he filled up and it's pretty sad that you could still get tickets on the day of.
Oh and FYI, that is not even his song. It is a single of Young Money's album.
Interminator
05-22-2009, 07:27 PM
That concert was in Toronto. He is on at least one or two times EVERY hour on the radio so save the "single" BS. Right now, he gets more play here than Kanye, Wayne and whoever else. This was a club of probably around 750-1000 people he filled up and it's pretty sad that you could still get tickets on the day of.
Oh and FYI, that is not even his song. It is a single of Young Money's album.
Poorly promoted?:confusedshrug:
And obviously its not his single hes on the song and it is played once an hour here.
But all he has is 1 verse that the mainstream knows but can still sell out.
You ever seen Jae Millz live by himself?
Thats about 30 people there.:oldlol:
Fatal9
05-22-2009, 07:37 PM
Poorly promoted?:confusedshrug:
That's why every day I drove to work they had Drake ticket giveaways, constant promotions etc on FLOW 93.5 (Toronto's hip hop station).
"poorly promoted"?? I thought his hype ASTOUNDING :oldlol:
Interminator
05-22-2009, 10:22 PM
That's why every day I drove to work they had Drake ticket giveaways, constant promotions etc on FLOW 93.5 (Toronto's hip hop station).
"poorly promoted"?? I thought his hype ASTOUNDING :oldlol:
Did he sell out?
qrich
05-22-2009, 10:40 PM
I don't get the buzz about Drake. Not saying he's bad, or he sucks, I just don't get what makes him so special? :confusedshrug:
JayGuevara
05-22-2009, 10:43 PM
I don't get the buzz about Drake. Not saying he's bad, or he sucks, I just don't get what makes him so special? :confusedshrug:
Apparently Interminator's undying love for him. :confusedshrug:
Interminator
05-22-2009, 10:50 PM
Apparently Interminator's undying love for him. :confusedshrug:
Hes good.
BRabbiT
05-22-2009, 10:54 PM
Ever been to a concert/show before? That's usually what happens :confusedshrug:
:oldlol:
he's ok...kind of generic...btw, if he's following soulja boy's path:roll:
2LeTTeRS
05-23-2009, 12:12 AM
No, that's why they appeal to us, because we can relate. I can relate to trappin gettin money, stackin gettin honeys, whippin it till it's chunky then flippin it to some junkies. I cannot relate to rich Jewish neighborhoods, teenage sitcoms, Canada, etc etc.
Drake doesn't appeal to me. Without the Wayne affiliation and therefore adoration of suburban white children, he'd be another Charles Hamilton, a corny internet rapper.
I'd much rather listen to a "corny internet rapper" who actually cares about his craft and has lyrics than mean something, then these lame ass dudes that are going top 10 on 106 & Park like Soulja Boy, Gucci Mane, Shawy Lo etc. but can't even rap.
And as far as Drake, I'm feeling him he's got some talent. Sounds a little similar to Wayne but it works for him.
QUESTION - Anybody else think that whoever is ghostwriting for Wayne is writing for Drake. Think about it Gillie Da Kid claimed after The Carter 2 he was writing for Wayne. After that Wayne was putting out a mixtape every month it seemed like with a completely different sound. Now he signs another artist (an actor mind you) who comes onto the scene and has a similar sound. I don't have anything to base it on, but just anybody's whose watched Hustle And Flow knows an actor can sound pretty decent when he has somebody else writing for him.
dab0yech0
05-23-2009, 05:17 AM
Most of my female friends are in love with him and they all went to his show in San Bernadino earlier, and later on tonight he is having another show with Ryan Leslie at the Cal State Los Angeles campus.
qrich
05-23-2009, 05:26 AM
Most of my female friends are in love with him and they all went to his show in San Bernadino earlier, and later on tonight he is having another show with Ryan Leslie at the Cal State Los Angeles campus.
Around here, nobody has heard of him cept this one dude who works in the industry.
TruthKGRay3412
05-23-2009, 08:24 AM
I took a lifestyle for mediocre to good and now its sittin at amazinggggggggggg
The_Yearning
05-23-2009, 08:43 AM
Lol child star turned rapper...where's the street cred??????? None. At least Soulja boy came from the hood and was actually from a black neighborhood...this chump is from Canada...lol interminator is homo irl.
2LeTTeRS
05-23-2009, 12:30 PM
Lol child star turned rapper...where's the street cred??????? None. At least Soulja boy came from the hood and was actually from a black neighborhood...this chump is from Canada...lol interminator is homo irl.
So street cred is more important than making good music?
dab0yech0
05-23-2009, 02:30 PM
Lol child star turned rapper...where's the street cred??????? None. At least Soulja boy came from the hood and was actually from a black neighborhood...this chump is from Canada...lol interminator is homo irl.
WTF? Does that mean you think Soulja Boy > Kanye West? Your reasoning sucks
thejumpa
05-23-2009, 03:19 PM
WTF? Does that mean you think Soulja Boy > Kanye West? Your reasoning sucks
Pretty sure Kanye grew up around his own kind(no, not weird mother****ers....black people)....
Drake, on the other hand....I could care less who he grew up around...just don't try to come with that hard gangsta ****....because it simply won't fly. I think I've heard him mention the trap or something in some of his **** but who knows. There's Black people in Canada but....I just don't know where:confusedshrug: .
i seen hippos
05-23-2009, 03:22 PM
Pretty sure Kanye grew up around his own kind(no, not weird mother****ers....black people)....
Drake, on the other hand....I could care less who he grew up around...just don't try to come with that hard gangsta ****....because it simply won't fly. I think I've heard him mention the trap or something in some of his **** but who knows. There's Black people in Canada but....I just don't know where:confusedshrug: .
I'm pretty sure in every large urban centre in Canada.
I hope I raised your IQ slightly simply by making an appearance.:oldlol:
Younggrease
05-23-2009, 03:39 PM
Black people in Ckanada are not like Black people In Africa, America, Jamaica, South America. They are the weakest breed of negroes around..
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard...this has to be some sort of joke
blasian
05-23-2009, 03:40 PM
LOL, as far as I know Drake never fronted like he was a gangsta rapper. A lot of his music caters toward women. So why should his "street cred" matter?
Younggrease
05-23-2009, 03:48 PM
Black people in Canada are weak...
Nothing dumb about it, It's the truth..
define weak...May would say that American black men are weak...If you consider selling drugs to be strong then thats on you...thats a weak decision
LOL, as far as I know Drake never fronted like he was a gangsta rapper. A lot of his music caters toward women. So why should his "street cred" matter?
The only line on Sar Far Gone that caught me was
Drug dealers live vicariously through me
you can take it 2 ways
1) drug dealers like up to Drake...that is false
2) they wish they didnt get into that lifestyle and made similar choices to Drake as a child. that in many cases is true. Dealing is not as glamorous as people in these songs seem to make it. It also makes me wonder if many of them truly lived it.
phoenix18
05-23-2009, 06:13 PM
Physically
Culturally
Mentally
ect.
They're just weak..Weakest stock of negroes.. They ckoudn't ckut the stock anywhere, so their ass is in Ckanada.. It's simple truth.
Wow, you are an idiot. I am black and I was born in Toronto and I lived in and still am living in the US for 12 years. So, dont I prove your theory wrong?
JayGuevara
05-23-2009, 09:59 PM
2) they wish they didnt get into that lifestyle and made similar choices to Drake as a child. that in many cases is true. Dealing is not as glamorous as people in these songs seem to make it. It also makes me wonder if many of them truly lived it.
I don't think that has anything to do with choices he made, but opportunities he was afforded. If he grew up in a upper class neighborhood, he had access to a better education. He probably didn't have the same negative influences around him and in his friends/family/neighborhood.
And, child actors are guided by their parents into it.
So going to good schools and having a role on a teenage sitcom doesn't really have a lot to do with choices he made, it has to do with opportunities he was afforded. He could be the rare "positive" product of his environment. I doubt the rich Jewish kids he went to school with had pots on the stove boilin and numerous boxes of baking soda.
dab0yech0
05-25-2009, 04:34 AM
http://www.kyte.tv/ch/277613-lizzie-tv/452001-drake-best-i-ever-had
Drake at Cal State Los Angeles. Liz Hernandez from Power 106 was at the show and recorded it. Drake had all the girls goin crazy with that song.
What about Kardinal Offishall?
He's had the most success to date to an extent (that track with Akon did pretty good), but he hasn't really blown up. His buzz has never been anywhere near this high.
I don't really see it ever happening for him. He'll probably continue to drop the mainstream with single with a guest artist that does well here and there.
I'm not a big Kardi fan. I liked some of the underground stuff, and guest spots he's done, but I hate his full blown attempts at mainstream success.
Younggrease
05-25-2009, 03:02 PM
http://www.kyte.tv/ch/277613-lizzie-tv/452001-drake-best-i-ever-had
Drake at Cal State Los Angeles. Liz Hernandez from Power 106 was at the show and recorded it. Drake had all the girls goin crazy with that song.
He looks retarded while performing and he doesnt actual sing the song like I would expect it. I actually thought he could sing a little
what
is this that wheelchair guy from degrassi?
Well in the show if I remember correct he did get shot in the back
maybe that heightens his street cred?
Interminator
06-04-2009, 01:46 PM
Bump.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?g=Singles&f=Hot+Rap+Tracks
#1 Rap single in the country now, no Video, no Album Release Date, not an official single.
Hes also featured on the #3 Rap single in the country.
Anybody who says his buzz isnt ridiculous is confused.
phoenix18
06-04-2009, 02:42 PM
Bump.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?g=Singles&f=Hot+Rap+Tracks
#1 Rap single in the country now, no Video, no Album Release Date, not an official single.
Hes also featured on the #3 Rap single in the country.
Anybody who says his buzz isnt ridiculous is confused.
Who still listens rap on the radio? Personally, living in the ATL, I cant stand it.
Interminator
06-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Who still listens rap on the radio? Personally, living in the ATL, I cant stand it.
People who have cars, its not like people are buying CD's anymore.:oldlol:
phoenix18
06-04-2009, 02:50 PM
People who have cars, its not like people are buying CD's anymore.:oldlol:
When Im in my car, Mp3 of any kind ftw.
Interminator
06-04-2009, 03:08 PM
When Im in my car, Mp3 of any kind ftw.
Car accidents ftl.
:eek:
phoenix18
06-04-2009, 03:17 PM
Car accidents ftl.
:eek:
What?
Interminator
06-04-2009, 05:34 PM
What?
Oh what happens when a car cuts you off but you cant hear the driver honking the horn with headphones in your ear blasting Asher Roth.
qrich
06-04-2009, 05:51 PM
When Im in my car, Mp3 of any kind ftw.
Either this, or mix cd's I got.
Oh what happens when a car cuts you off but you cant hear the driver honking the horn with headphones in your ear blasting Asher Roth.
I connect my mp3 directly to my cars system. Its just like listening to the radio or a cd.
Drake "Wheel Chair kid from Degrassi" Graham, the clown from down town
never heard his music, is it actually good??
On degrassi he just rapped about poverty in africa and how he was in a wheel chair but still just like everyone else, are his songs still like that?
v-unit
06-04-2009, 07:02 PM
Drake "Wheel Chair kid from Degrassi" Graham, the clown from down town
never heard his music, is it actually good??
On degrassi he just rapped about poverty in africa and how he was in a wheel chair but still just like everyone else, are his songs still like that?
No. Lol it's legit rap songs. Some with singing.
phoenix18
06-05-2009, 03:46 PM
I connect my mp3 directly to my cars system. Its just like listening to the radio or a cd.
Thats Exactly what I do. :cheers:
The Big Skinny
11-20-2009, 01:46 AM
lyrical genius
:bowdown:
LOOOL
lyrical Genius?
let me help you out brotha
youtube Big L
thats a lyrical genius
Drake is nothing but a fake wayne who is riding the wayne train
endorphins
11-20-2009, 02:24 AM
drake is the man. i don't understand the hate
The Big Skinny
11-20-2009, 02:26 AM
drake is the man. i don't understand the hate
if you don't understand now, then you'll never understand
but don't worry man, to each his own
iggy>
11-20-2009, 02:27 AM
drake is the man. i don't understand the hate
because success came easy for him, people like rooting for underdogs
endorphins
11-20-2009, 02:32 AM
if you don't understand now, then you'll never understand
but don't worry man, to each his own
fair enough. maybe he's a white people kind of rapper
The Big Skinny
11-20-2009, 02:37 AM
fair enough. maybe he's a white people kind of rapper
heh...i guess i'm considered a white guy and i don't care for him much
to me its more about the music than the success....
i don't fault drake for being successful
i just don't like his music, his voice, his flow, and his mannerisms ( watch the forever video and watch him bobble his head...)
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