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Mikaiel
05-23-2009, 11:11 PM
THERE IS NOTHING CLUTCH ABOUT A CATCH AND SHOOT WITH 1 SEC LEFT ON THE CLOCK.

:oldlol:

Then I guess none of Robert Horry's "clutch" shots were clutch ...


Ill say this again if lebron wants to be one of the greats like MJ & KB then he has to hit these types of shots in the playoffs when it matters the most.

When it matters the most ? Game 5 of the ECF a few years ago was a meaningless game ???

GOBB
05-23-2009, 11:16 PM
Let's be clear about something, GOBB... That shot was epic and it isn't just because it was LeBron that pulled it off. The defense was not 'terrible.' Maybe they should have put more pressure on the in-bounds, but the Cavs have a lot of shooters and there were a lot of options on the floor. I thought Hedo did a great job of cutting off LeBron's original move and then contesting without risking a foul.

Turk did a good job taking away the lob but when Bron retreated Mo Williams had too much space to hit him with the pass. Check out where Shard and Pietrus is standing. Pietrus is playing Pav too close and Pav is at the halfcourt line. 1 second he is going to do damage if you back off him more?

I mean the defensive blunder has little to do with the actual shot and it going in. So really this point is for another thread. It just comes across as if I'm discrediting Bron and I'm not.

But the overrating of this shot is on overkill is all. I like my veggies. I eat my veggies. But dont force feed me my veggies. Its like feeding a baby. After awhile it gets full and the next spoon full attempt will get spit out. That means the baby is done. Wipe mouth, change bib and burp.

The shot was great and I'm happy to have witnessed it. But espn just has too much bias when it comes to Bron. Its one thing for the NBA to promote him. But espn too? Again dont force feed me the veggies.

YoungMula
05-23-2009, 11:18 PM
You attempt to call me out for using internet jargon, but you type as though you are texting from a non-PDA phone.

Please define the word 'u'... Dumbass.

and 'you wasn't talking to me'. :oldlol: Go back to school, kid.

lol okay old man, wow coming from someone that uses dumb forum gibberish

U is You in the twenty first century... u can use it on a social network, forum or even on ur phone texting (even txting for short! like u!). Use at ur own risk though, such as a paper for school or job. I.E. When proper grammar needs to be used.

now U go away

Fatal9
05-23-2009, 11:33 PM
Kobe's game winner tonight was a much harder shot imo.

GOBB
05-23-2009, 11:35 PM
Kobe's game winner tonight was a much harder shot imo.

What game winner?

Samurai Swoosh
05-23-2009, 11:36 PM
Kobe's game winner tonight was a much harder shot imo.
Easily. JR Smith made a very good defensive play, slapped the ball out of Kobe's hands, he recovered mid jump and still managed to hit the shot.

Indian guy
05-23-2009, 11:39 PM
What game winner?

The one he hit with 1:09 left.

GOBB
05-23-2009, 11:39 PM
The one he hit with 1:09 left.

I had no idea you could hit a game winner with over 1 minute left. What happened the rest of the time? Just QB kneels?

http://i39.tinypic.com/2hfuxj5.jpg

Where was it slapped out of Kobe's hand? lol

Fatal9
05-23-2009, 11:45 PM
Game winner = shot that gives the team lead for good (in the last minutes of a close game)

Dave3
05-23-2009, 11:51 PM
Game winner = shot that gives the team lead for good (in the last minutes of a close game)
I know this is semantics, but I think that's the "go ahead basket" moreso than gamewinning. Game winning means your team doesn't score anymore I believe. Also, having one second on the clock makes a HUGE difference.

Mikaiel
05-23-2009, 11:52 PM
Kobe's game winner tonight was a much harder shot imo.

Wow ...

GOBB
05-23-2009, 11:53 PM
I know this is semantics, but I think that's the "go ahead basket" moreso than gamewinning. Game winning means your team doesn't score anymore I believe.

Exactly. That shot isnt going to be counted as no damn game winner. There is 1:08 left. How the HELL do you hit a game winner with that much time left? Only Kobe. :oldlol: Some fans can be silly. This is one of those times.

Lebron23
05-23-2009, 11:53 PM
Game winner = shot that gives the team lead for good (in the last minutes of a close game)


That's Clutch baskets.

Game Winner = LeBron's Buzzer Beater againts the Orlando Magic.

And Please stop trolling in our Game Threads.

:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

Indian guy
05-23-2009, 11:53 PM
Game winner = shot that gives the team lead for good (in the last minutes of a close game)

I see. So what's the time frame on that? If you hit the go-ahead shot that gives you the lead for good with 2 minutes left, does that qualify as a GW? Or is this just how desperate you have become to cope with LeBron's postseason dominance?

:oldlol: @ something being a GW with more than a minute left in the game. The shot put LA up by 1, it qualifies as a GW if the opposition doesn't score another point from there on.

GOBB
05-23-2009, 11:59 PM
Kobe 3pter gave Lakers the lead...96-95 with 1:08 left.

The end of the game? Final score is 103-97. 9pts scored by both teams. Yet THAT was the game winner. Ok my turn to be silly. Ready? Ok

Kobe hit the GW to give Lakers 96pts, 1pt lead. However since the final score on Denvers end is 97. That means not only was it NOT a game winner. Lakers lose. Denver 2-1. Best of 7. Woohooo

justin43
05-24-2009, 12:01 AM
More like a dragger that stole Denver's chances of winning. Anyway, amazing shot that Lebron made. That was a series saving shot.:applause:

Fatal9
05-24-2009, 12:03 AM
:oldlol:

MJ & KB, eh? So, KB is on that level? His game-winner against the Suns were in the first round. When is the last time he hit a buzzer-beating game-winner in the conference finals or NBA finals?
When was the last time he got an opportunity to make a buzzer beating shot in the last 3 years?

YoungMula
05-24-2009, 12:06 AM
kobe makes the big baskets at the end, call em whatever u want they are huge clutch shots that change the momentum of the game, game 2 it should have been in his hands at the end, he made 2 threes & a pull up to tie the game when they were down 8 towards the end of the 4th... & of course moments ago he made a huge dagger 3 that shut up 20,000 plus people, then the rest of the game was basically making free throws

bleedinpurpleTwo
05-24-2009, 12:08 AM
HEY:
Somebody make a shameless thread titled:
"Kobe Bryant's amazing 4th quarter dominance to win Laker-Nuggs Game 3"

GOBB
05-24-2009, 12:08 AM
More like a dragger that stole Denver's chances of winning. Anyway, amazing shot that Lebron made. That was a series saving shot.:applause:

It put L.A up by only 1 pt. The series saving play was Ariza stealing the inbound pass again and getting fouled. He iced the game with his FTs. How doea a shot putting your team up by 1 steal another teams chance to win given there was 1:08 left?

branslowski
05-24-2009, 12:08 AM
Game-Winners

1) 05/10/00 - Lakers 97 - Phoenix 96 (playoffs)
(2) 06/14/00 - Lakers 120 - Pacers 118 (playoffs)
(3) 11/16/00 - Lakers 112 - Kings 110
(4) 02/07/01 - Lakers 85 - Phoenix 83
(5) 02/13/01 - Lakers 113 - Nets 110
(6) 01/02/02 - Lakers 87 - Nuggets 86
(7) 02/22/02 - Lakers 96 - Hornets 94
(8) 05/12/02 - Lakers 87 - Spurs 85 (playoffs)
(9) 12/06/02 - Lakers 105 - Dallas 103
(10) 04/04/03 - Lakers 102 - Grizzlies 101
(11) 04/06/03 - Lakers 115 - Suns 113
(12) 12/19/03 - Lakers 101 - Nuggets 99
(13) 02/17/04 - Lakers 89 - Blazers 86
(14) 03/21/04 - Lakers 104 - Bucks 103
(15) 04/14/04 - Lakers 105 - Blazers 104
(16) 03/12/05 - Lakers 117 - Bobcats 116
(17) 11/02/05 - Lakers 99 - Nuggets 97
(18) 01/07/06 - Lakers 112 - Clippers 109
(19) 01/13/06 - Lakers 99 - Cavaliers 98
(20) 04/30/06 - Lakers 99 - Suns 98 (playoffs)
(21) 11/23/07 - Lakers 89 - Pacers 88
(22) 01/14/08 - Lakers 123 - Seattle 121
(23) 01/09/09 - Lakers 121- Pacers 119

Unstoppable unstoppableness........:bowdown: :bowdown:

:no: Tonights shot by Kobe was not a Game-Winner, yes it was a big part in why they won, but it was not a game-winner...It was a clutch basket...

YoungMula
05-24-2009, 12:11 AM
HEY:
Somebody make a shameless thread titled:
"Kobe Bryant's amazing 4th quarter dominance to win Laker-Nuggs Game 3"

lol yea this is more of a present chat room

Kingwillball
05-24-2009, 12:16 AM
Game-Winners

1) 05/10/00 - Lakers 97 - Phoenix 96 (playoffs)
(2) 06/14/00 - Lakers 120 - Pacers 118 (playoffs)
(3) 11/16/00 - Lakers 112 - Kings 110
(4) 02/07/01 - Lakers 85 - Phoenix 83
(5) 02/13/01 - Lakers 113 - Nets 110
(6) 01/02/02 - Lakers 87 - Nuggets 86
(7) 02/22/02 - Lakers 96 - Hornets 94
(8) 05/12/02 - Lakers 87 - Spurs 85 (playoffs)
(9) 12/06/02 - Lakers 105 - Dallas 103
(10) 04/04/03 - Lakers 102 - Grizzlies 101
(11) 04/06/03 - Lakers 115 - Suns 113
(12) 12/19/03 - Lakers 101 - Nuggets 99
(13) 02/17/04 - Lakers 89 - Blazers 86
(14) 03/21/04 - Lakers 104 - Bucks 103
(15) 04/14/04 - Lakers 105 - Blazers 104
(16) 03/12/05 - Lakers 117 - Bobcats 116
(17) 11/02/05 - Lakers 99 - Nuggets 97
(18) 01/07/06 - Lakers 112 - Clippers 109
(19) 01/13/06 - Lakers 99 - Cavaliers 98
(20) 04/30/06 - Lakers 99 - Suns 98 (playoffs)
(21) 11/23/07 - Lakers 89 - Pacers 88
(22) 01/14/08 - Lakers 123 - Seattle 121
(23) 01/09/09 - Lakers 121- Pacers 119

Unstoppable unstoppableness........:bowdown: :bowdown:

:no: Tonights shot by Kobe was not a Game-Winner, yes it was a big part in why they won, but it was not a game-winner...It was a clutch basket...


There was a thread last night that listed all the game winning shots which I guess is within the last 24 seconds of the game in the last 2 years and lebron leads the NBA so there goese your theory.

Samurai Swoosh
05-24-2009, 12:17 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/2hfuxj5.jpg

Where was it slapped out of Kobe's hand? lol
When I was initially watching the play, I thought it got fully slapped out of his hands.

GOBB
05-24-2009, 12:19 AM
When I was initially watching the play, I thought it got fully slapped out of his hands.

Appeared that way...still a difficult basket.

branslowski
05-24-2009, 12:19 AM
There was a thread last night that listed all the game winning shots which I guess is within the last 24 seconds of the game in the last 2 years and lebron leads the NBA so there goese your theory.

What Theory?? Those are ACTUAL GAME-WINNERS....82games.com shows clutch baskets and counts those as game-winners...It has LeBron at 17...but in reality, he has actually only made 9 Game-winners....They count the game tying shots....even if you lose the game, it still counts towards gm winners....Also, I dont care about who did what in the last 2yrs...:oldlol: ...Im lookin at the total package....

bleedinpurpleTwo
05-24-2009, 12:20 AM
Appeared that way...still a difficult basket.

btw, congrats on 30k
:cheers:

Samurai Swoosh
05-24-2009, 12:21 AM
Appeared that way...still a difficult basket.
It looked like in the full frame replay that he had to adjust the shot at some point in his hitch while bringing the ball up.

IAmAWitness23
05-24-2009, 12:23 AM
OMG! I couldn't breathe when LBJ took that inbound pass until the shot went through the net.

What a shot, what a shot. But it would be nice if the Cavs wouldn't implode after halftime and actually protect or even increase a large lead.

cavsfanatic
05-24-2009, 12:29 AM
Kobe's game winner tonight was a much harder shot imo.lmfao! The statement from somebody who has never played basketball. Since I played and still do I will tell u the difference between picking a spot on the floor and dribbling to it and rising up for yo shot....wait u mean the 3 where jr reached in? Lmao gtfo my face u idiot. Its way too many idiots on this forum man

justin43
05-24-2009, 12:30 AM
It put L.A up by only 1 pt. The series saving play was Ariza stealing the inbound pass again and getting fouled. He iced the game with his FTs. How doea a shot putting your team up by 1 steal another teams chance to win given there was 1:08 left?

Game winning, yes. Series saving, hardly.

Kingwillball
05-24-2009, 12:32 AM
What Theory?? Those are ACTUAL GAME-WINNERS....82games.com shows clutch baskets and counts those as game-winners...It has LeBron at 17...but in reality, he has actually only made 9 Game-winners....They count the game tying shots....even if you lose the game, it still counts towards gm winners....Also, I dont care about who did what in the last 2yrs...:oldlol: ...Im lookin at the total package....


Right now which player would U rather have ?

branslowski
05-24-2009, 12:35 AM
Right now which player would U rather have ?

In The Clutch??....Kobe By FAR....:rockon:

Sir Charles
05-24-2009, 12:39 AM
With 1 Second Left on the Block!

Lebron James = Clutch! and Not a Pu-ssy Afraid To Take The Whole Blame for a PATHETIC TEAM that Requires 80% on His Level Of Play to Win 1 Single Game..:bowdown:

That Was Way More Risky than Just Going for the Tie

Especially.... in the "Situation" his Team Was In...On the adge of the 0-2

:pimp:

IcanzIIravor
05-24-2009, 12:40 AM
Shooting a 3 was his only option. He said it himself that the first option was the lob.

StroShow4
05-24-2009, 12:41 AM
Shooting a 3 was his only option. He said it himself that the first option was the lob.

^This. He said in his post game comments that the three was not the first option. Stupid thread.

GOBB
05-24-2009, 12:43 AM
First option was the lob, Turk took that away, then when u only have 5 seconds tro inbound the ball you gotta think quick. Bron just got seperation so he could get a shot off. It just so happened to be a 3. When you only have 1 second on the clock and the ref is counting off 5 sec on the inbound. You dont have many options.

Nice try Sir Charles, attempt rimmed out.

branslowski
05-24-2009, 12:45 AM
^This. He said in his post game comments that the three was not the first option. Stupid thread.

Well, ship this sh!t out, like yawl did mines...

GOBB
05-24-2009, 12:49 AM
Game winning, yes. Series saving, hardly.

I like how you change your tune. Thats all i wanted to achieve.


btw, congrats on 30k

:cheers: Thanks

Sir Charles
05-24-2009, 12:59 AM
Shooting a 3 was his only option. He said it himself that the first option was the lob.

He could have forced the two for a higher % shot by moving to another side while posting up for a fadeway.

Look at lebron`s hand jesters just after he realeses the shot...very confident


:bowdown:

YoungMula
05-24-2009, 03:13 AM
What Theory?? Those are ACTUAL GAME-WINNERS....82games.com shows clutch baskets and counts those as game-winners...It has LeBron at 17...but in reality, he has actually only made 9 Game-winners....They count the game tying shots....even if you lose the game, it still counts towards gm winners....Also, I dont care about who did what in the last 2yrs...:oldlol: ...Im lookin at the total package....

whos pwned kingbillwall, bigticket??.. i knew that site wasn't completely right

RedBlackAttack
05-24-2009, 04:15 AM
But the overrating of this shot is on overkill is all. I like my veggies. I eat my veggies. But dont force feed me my veggies. Its like feeding a baby. After awhile it gets full and the next spoon full attempt will get spit out. That means the baby is done. Wipe mouth, change bib and burp.

The shot was great and I'm happy to have witnessed it. But espn just has too much bias when it comes to Bron. Its one thing for the NBA to promote him. But espn too? Again dont force feed me the veggies.

First, I refuse to accept the notion that this shot is, in any way, being 'overrated.' It has the chance of being one of the biggest shots in NBA history and it is, at the very least, one of the greatest playoff moments in recent memory (as far as buzzer-beaters go).

Second, I can see how some may be sick of seeing the shot. Trust me... I know. I've lived for 20 years having to see Jordan's shot over Ehlo over and over and over again. You don't think, as a diehard Cavs fan, that still bothers me to this day? It does... and that is the single most over-used highlight in NBA history (and rightfully so).

I have seen LeBron's shot as many times as you have in the last 24 hours or so and I am not even close to being sick of it. That was one of the greatest sports moments in the last 30 years for this city. We've been the opposition on so many 'over-used' highlights (Elway's drive, Byner's fumble, Jordan over Ehlo, Jordan abusing the Cavs in general, etc).

Can't we have our moment this one time instead of being on the opposite end of it? Maybe everyone outside of Cleveland is sick of it, but I can assure you that very few people in Ohio have seen the play enough times. Today's media has a tendency to over-saturate everything and anything that happens in sports, politics, etc.

But, give us this moment... I beg of you.

Johnni Gade
05-24-2009, 04:30 AM
jesus what a shot

cavsfanatic
05-24-2009, 04:38 AM
In The Clutch??....Kobe By FAR....:rockon:yes sir. One shot I want kobe. If bron hit a few more gw buzzer beaters I'll switch but untill then its the mamba

TheWitness
05-24-2009, 06:11 AM
before that shot, many are questioning Lebron's clutch abilities...


who's the daddy now! heehee...


:hammertime:

GOBB
05-24-2009, 09:45 AM
First, I refuse to accept the notion that this shot is, in any way, being 'overrated.' It has the chance of being one of the biggest shots in NBA history and it is, at the very least, one of the greatest playoff moments in recent memory (as far as buzzer-beaters go).

Second, I can see how some may be sick of seeing the shot. Trust me... I know. I've lived for 20 years having to see Jordan's shot over Ehlo over and over and over again. You don't think, as a diehard Cavs fan, that still bothers me to this day? It does... and that is the single most over-used highlight in NBA history (and rightfully so).

I have seen LeBron's shot as many times as you have in the last 24 hours or so and I am not even close to being sick of it. That was one of the greatest sports moments in the last 30 years for this city. We've been the opposition on so many 'over-used' highlights (Elway's drive, Byner's fumble, Jordan over Ehlo, Jordan abusing the Cavs in general, etc).

Can't we have our moment this one time instead of being on the opposite end of it? Maybe everyone outside of Cleveland is sick of it, but I can assure you that very few people in Ohio have seen the play enough times. Today's media has a tendency to over-saturate everything and anything that happens in sports, politics, etc.

But, give us this moment... I beg of you.

Yeah overrated is the wrong term. :cheers:

john_d
05-24-2009, 10:19 AM
i like the shot.. the shot was great..

but espn has no right to put it #2 all time buzzer beater in the playoffs.. wtf freaking ALL TIME!!!

OneMoreSucka
05-24-2009, 10:25 AM
I wonder how much money he got for making that.

Johnni Gade
05-24-2009, 10:28 AM
I wonder how much money he got for making that.
the moneyshot baby:hammertime:

d-wade2923
05-24-2009, 01:37 PM
By far the biggest play in cleveland sports history for the past 45 years

vert48
05-24-2009, 02:17 PM
By far the biggest play in cleveland sports history for the past 45 yearsNope. MJ's shot over Ehlo is still bigger.

Mikaiel
05-24-2009, 02:27 PM
Nope. MJ's shot over Ehlo is still bigger.

MJ wasn't on the Cavs ...

RedBlackAttack
05-24-2009, 02:55 PM
Yeah overrated is the wrong term. :cheers:
:cheers:

You better hope he doesn't pull some miraculous sh!t tonight or you might as well rename ESPN ---> ELPN.


john_d,
We will see, in the grand scheme, where this shot should rank. Depending on whether or not the Cavs win this series or a championship, it could be as high as that list portrayed. I didn't see the list, so I can't really have a definite opinion on it.

What was No. 1? What was No. 3?

CLE[216]
05-24-2009, 04:32 PM
LBJ's buzzer beater > MJ's buzzer beater

-Bron's was a three, MJ's was a two
-Bron had to catch and shoot in one second, MJ created his shot off the dribble
-Bron's shot was in the ECF, MJ's was a first rounder

YoungMula
05-24-2009, 04:41 PM
']LBJ's buzzer beater > MJ's buzzer beater

-Bron's was a three, MJ's was a two
-Bron had to catch and shoot in one second, MJ created his shot off the dribble
-Bron's shot was in the ECF, MJ's was a first rounder

-MJs ended the series,
-Just because its a 2 or 3 doesn't always mean the 3 is going to be harder
-Bron squared up & shot, MJ was off balance double clutch
-He double clutched (in the air) til Ehlo hand was far enough down to actually shoot the ball.

Don't be biased cause you love lebron james

I cant believe people are actually believing themselves that lebrons was better

D-Rose
05-24-2009, 04:46 PM
']LBJ's buzzer beater > MJ's buzzer beater

-Bron's was a three, MJ's was a two
-Bron had to catch and shoot in one second, MJ created his shot off the dribble
-Bron's shot was in the ECF, MJ's was a first rounder

:oldlol: ever heard of a double clutch?

CLE[216]
05-24-2009, 04:47 PM
-MJs ended the series,
-Just because its a 2 or 3 doesn't always mean the 3 is going to be harder
-Bron squared up & shot, MJ was off balance double clutch
-He double clutched (in the air) til Ehlo hand was far enough down to actually shoot the ball.

Don't be biased cause you love lebron james

I cant believe people are actually believing themselves that lebrons was better

I'm not being biased, I'm giving my opinion. Hell, we're all kinda biased in that sense, aren't we?

-A three is more difficult than a two
-"Bron squared up and shot." Exactly. He caught the ball, squared and fired in less than a second
-Quit lying please. Michael couldn't have been any more square to the basket.
-Michael double clutched because he had time to double clutch, and because he had the inhuman power of levitation. Situational differences.

Riker
05-24-2009, 05:35 PM
LMAO look at these kids all excited here, after ONE game winner here they are all salivating over it.

Well...sad. Sad to see people dumb like this.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2v1meiv.jpg

LOL

anyway, MJ's any shot > this crap.


MJ made 2 shots in final 7 seconds of that game, but you kids dont know that.

Oh well. Go and check it out.

Let's weigh in


2 clutch shots in final 7 seconds of the game - for winning the SERIES >>>> game 2 series tier


The hype's pathetic. Jordan ended Cavs franchise hope for 20 years with those 2 shots.


Brainwashing is strong on this one.

crisoner
05-24-2009, 05:43 PM
That shot might be reminiscent of Kobe's game 2 winner in the 2004 Finals.


Remember that?

Most people don't because the Pistons won every game after that and took the title.

Riker
05-24-2009, 05:47 PM
That shot might be reminiscent of Kobe's game 2 winner in the 2004 Finals.


Remember that?

Most people don't because the Pistons won every game after that and took the title.

No no no, this was the single most hardest, contested, significant shot in NBA history.

Something that never happened in Playoff history ever.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2v1meiv.jpg
:roll:

Mikaiel
05-24-2009, 05:51 PM
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

On one hand you've got those who overrate the shot, and then you've got those who think the shot's overrated. Can't we just appreciate that shot for what it was ? A shot that saved Cleveland's season and that's possibly the biggest shot in franchise history ? No it's not on "The Shot" level, or Horry's shot against the Kings, or many other shots that happened in the Finals. But it's way better than whatever happened in the 76ers/Magic matchup in the 1st round. How retarded is it to compare that ?

We won't know what place this shot will have in history. It all depends on what happens next. If the Cavs lose, it won't be that special. But if the Cavs win the title ? Then it'll rank up there.

1~Gibson~1
05-24-2009, 05:56 PM
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

On one hand you've got those who overrate the shot, and then you've got those who think the shot's overrated. Can't we just appreciate that shot for what it was ? A shot that saved Cleveland's season and that's possibly the biggest shot in franchise history ? No it's not on "The Shot" level, or Horry's shot against the Kings, or many other shots that happened in the Finals. But it's way better than whatever happened in the 76ers/Magic matchup in the 1st round. How retarded is it to compare that ?

We won't know what place this shot will have in history. It all depends on what happens next. If the Cavs lose, it won't be that special. But if the Cavs win the title ? Then it'll rank up there.because you have guys like Riker that will stop at NO cost to prove that that shot meant absolutle NOTHING

Riker
05-24-2009, 06:03 PM
We won't know what place this shot will have in history. It all depends on what happens next. If the Cavs lose, it won't be that special. But if the Cavs win the title ? Then it'll rank up there.

I was excited when it went in and I can't stand Cavs or James.


Then, the next day, after seeing how everyone on NBA TV is talking about it as if he hit a Game 7 NBA Finals title clincher - I was disgusted.


It was a great game winner. But, as shown on that picture, there were couple more shots like that - THIS year!


I give credit to Bron for making it, it was electrifying. However, as always, the media exploitation and propaganda and instant comparing with TRUE historical shots - makes me puke.




because you have guys like Riker that will stop at NO cost to prove that that shot meant absolutle NOTHING

No, you're wrong, it's not about his 3 pointer, which was one of the greatest moments of this years playoffs (so far, I mean, we don't know what will happen next) and certainly one of the best moments in Cavs history - it's about little hypebeasts like yourself.

1~Gibson~1
05-24-2009, 06:05 PM
I was excited when it went in and I can't stand Cavs or James.


Then, the next day, after seeing how everyone on NBA TV is talking about it as if he hit a Game 7 NBA Finals title clincher - I was disgusted.


It was a great game winner. But, as shown on that picture, there were couple more shots like that - THIS year!


I give credit to Bron for making it, it was electrifying. However, as always, the media exploitation and propaganda and instant comparing with TRUE historical shots - makes me puke.So just because the media to too ignorant to control their emotions about a game winning shot you hate the guy that made it?

thats retarded :banghead:

1~Gibson~1
05-24-2009, 06:06 PM
No, you're wrong, it's not about his 3 pointer, it's about little hypebeasts like yourself.and how have i "overrated" the shot? please explain to me what i said.....

Riker
05-24-2009, 06:11 PM
So just because the media to too ignorant to control their emotions about a game winning shot you hate the guy that made it?

thats retarded :banghead:

Me not liking James is my own preference. There are 10-20 exceptional players in the league, and I don't like every single one of them.

I rank James in NBA's top 3, sometimes he's the best, sometimes it's Kobe, sometimes it's Wade, depends on streaks, how they play, what games I watch.

I don't "hate" him literally, hate is a very strong word. I can't stand the fabricated hype, and that's about it.


And as shown in that picture, nobody ever will hear about those game winning shots.

But James makes one - and all of a sudden it's not only great - but HISTORICAL?


That can't be serious.

Riker
05-24-2009, 06:13 PM
and how have i "overrated" the shot? please explain to me what i said.....

I don't know if it was you per se, but someone said this was the biggest shot in NBA history.

What the...? :wtf:

LaughingOctopus
05-24-2009, 06:14 PM
Riker, do you post on another basketball forum with the name DNKO?

Riker
05-24-2009, 06:16 PM
Riker, do you post on another basketball forum with the name DNKO?
:wtf:

Mikaiel
05-24-2009, 06:18 PM
It was a great game winner. But, as shown on that picture, there were couple more shots like that - THIS year!

No there were not. The Cavs are a title contender. All hope was lost. The season was basically over. All Cavs fans were depressed, well, I know I was anyway. Down 0-2 with homecourt advantage, it's over. This season flashed before my eyes. And then LeBron hits that shot. It's way better than any other gamewinners this year. None of those gamewinners happened with a title contender, with all hope lost if the shots misses. You just can't compare.

Of course right now there's nothing historic about that shot, but if the Cavs win this series, or even better, win the title, do you really think it will just be another gamewinner ? No. It would be like Horry's shot against the Kings.

Riker
05-24-2009, 06:24 PM
No there were not. The Cavs are a title contender. All hope was lost. The season was basically over. All Cavs fans were depressed, well, I know I was anyway. Down 0-2 with homecourt advantage, it's over.

Now that's just overreacting at its best.

0-2 isn't untouchable lead, it's playoffs, anything can happen and anyone can win anywhere.

As for depressed fans - every single arena looks and sounds depressed these days.

It's screaming when the team is up, and as soon as the game gets close, they shut up.

Mikaiel
05-24-2009, 06:30 PM
0-2 isn't untouchable lead, it's playoffs, anything can happen and anyone can win anywhere.

By anything can happen, do you mean Rashard Lewis could go crazy and go in the locker room and shoot both Dwight Howard and himself ? Yeah, I guess technically it's possible.

Riker
05-24-2009, 06:32 PM
By anything can happen I mean - every game was won by 1 point.

So basically, it could've gone either way. It's not like Orlando blew Cleveland and then Cleveland came back in desperate attempt to save themselves.

JustinJDW
05-24-2009, 06:33 PM
Lol, this thread became a sticky. :lol

nbastatus
05-24-2009, 07:21 PM
riker is back!:violin:

1~Gibson~1
05-24-2009, 07:26 PM
Me not liking James is my own preference. There are 10-20 exceptional players in the league, and I don't like every single one of them.

I rank James in NBA's top 3, sometimes he's the best, sometimes it's Kobe, sometimes it's Wade, depends on streaks, how they play, what games I watch.

I don't "hate" him literally, hate is a very strong word. I can't stand the fabricated hype, and that's about it.


And as shown in that picture, nobody ever will hear about those game winning shots.

But James makes one - and all of a sudden it's not only great - but HISTORICAL?


That can't be serious.watever :rolleyes:


I don't know if it was you per se, but someone said this was the biggest shot in NBA history.

What the...? :wtf:No, you're wrong, it's not about his 3 pointer, it's about little hypebeasts like yourself.

you called me a "hypebeast" so obviously you were implying that i was overrating and hyping up the shot (which isnt true) so tell me what i said to be labeled a "hypebeast"......

sonofthehill
05-25-2009, 12:52 AM
That shot was no doubt amazing people are going to remember this shot for many years to come but the nba is just making too much of a deal out of that shot. Hedo Turkoglu made 2 clutch buckets before James hit that 3 to win the game and Hedo is not even getting any credit for it

mmsupra
05-25-2009, 01:00 AM
That shot was no doubt amazing people are going to remember this shot for many years to come but the nba is just making too much of a deal out of that shot. Hedo Turkoglu made 2 clutch buckets before James hit that 3 to win the game and Hedo is not even getting any credit for it

I like it when we get no credit ..just keep winning and I'll take the end result.

LaughingOctopus
05-25-2009, 01:05 AM
Now that's just overreacting at its best.

0-2 isn't untouchable lead, it's playoffs, anything can happen and anyone can win anywhere.

As for depressed fans - every single arena looks and sounds depressed these days.

It's screaming when the team is up, and as soon as the game gets close, they shut up.

LOL at you trying to spin it as if a team losing the first two games at home in a 7 game series isn't a death sentence. You are really dedicated, aren't you?

Since I know you fancy yourself a knowledgable oldschool basketball fan, why don't you list all of the instances of a team with HCA coming back from 0-2 down in the 3rd or 4th round of the playoffs.

B
05-25-2009, 01:12 AM
That shot was no doubt amazing people are going to remember this shot for many years to come but the nba is just making too much of a deal out of that shot. Hedo Turkoglu made 2 clutch buckets before James hit that 3 to win the game and Hedo is not even getting any credit for itSpot on. Laker fans and most people that follow the NBA remember Fishers .4 shot to steal the game. But no one talks about the huge clutch shots by Duncan right before it.

Lebrons shot will be remembered if the Cavs win the series. If they lose folks will remember "that season" that Orlando knocked off the team with the best record to get to the finals, and that shot will fade away.

B
05-25-2009, 01:33 AM
i honestly think cleveland has somewhat gotten into orlando's head with that shot.

i mean orlando is always the team that comes from behind, and ends up getting the win off there three pointers.

but after that.

orlando must be bitting shricks.Nice call.

Bruinzzz
05-25-2009, 01:29 PM
I like it when we get no credit ..just keep winning and I'll take the end result.
Magic/Yankees fan. Sweet...

OneMoreSucka
05-25-2009, 01:52 PM
Magic/Yankees fan. Sweet...
Says the bruins fan http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/345/facepalmsmiley.gif

KubiliusF
05-25-2009, 03:37 PM
I`m fan of NBA basketball and all , and just for that one shot before it was inbounded i first thought to myself " what if NBA really do have "magnets" " lol i`m certainly not denying the talent of Lebron or anything , but somehow it was suspicious it was so epic that it seemed scripted. ( Pardon for english grammar. )

john_d
05-25-2009, 08:36 PM
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/T3L75FQ7VI3F25V9B

;:)

YoungMula
05-26-2009, 03:30 PM
This is for whoever said kobe never hit a 1 second buzzer beater.. delusional lebron fanatics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxOG678BA5Q

sonofthehill
05-27-2009, 07:02 AM
This thread shouldnt even exist no more provided the fact that magic are up 3-1. People are going to remember this shot only if they win this series but right now the chances are slim

crisoner
05-27-2009, 12:48 PM
Like I said this that shot reminded me of Kobe's game winner during game two of the 2004 NBA Finals. People overhyped this one real quick as well.

tastystaci
05-27-2009, 01:02 PM
Like I said this that shot reminded me of Kobe's game winner during game two of the 2004 NBA Finals. People overhyped this one real quick as well.

Good comparision. Everybody thought that shot "saved" the Lakers in '04, but all it did was delay the undeniable fact. The Pistons were just way better than that Laker team. Same thing with this Magic/Cavs series.

sonofthehill
05-28-2009, 09:49 AM
LOL someone need to remove this damn thread. Cavaliers arent even going to be in the final so dat shot doesnt really matter

Lebron23
11-18-2019, 02:16 AM
That was one of the best Buzzer Beater in NBA History. People are going to remember that play 50-100 years from now.
10 years later I remembered this amazing shot.

Knockout_Mouse
01-09-2020, 08:53 AM
LOL! Still rates highly after a decade of insane buzzer beaters too.