PDA

View Full Version : Blues/guitar/YouTube channel



johndeeregreen
05-31-2009, 07:38 PM
Added a coupla tunes to my Youtube today...makes four covers in all so far, all done with a crappy webcam, but you can get the gist. Figured some of the more musically inclined individuals (and even those not) might wanna check 'em out. Yes, this is an intro course to shameless self promotion 101, but I'd be happy to look at other people's stuff and have them share that with us as well. We've got a pretty diverse group of music fans on here and I'm looking for some opinions.

If not, just let this thread silently make its way to page 400. Thanks.

Hawker
05-31-2009, 08:08 PM
Good sh!t man...I gotta learn some SRV songs man. They sound incredible but they're just so hard to learn and keep with it lol
Do you tune your guitar a half step down?

johndeeregreen
05-31-2009, 08:28 PM
Good sh!t man...I gotta learn some SRV songs man. They sound incredible but they're just so hard to learn and keep with it lol
Do you tune your guitar a half step down?
Yeah, almost everything Stevie does is in Eb; he idolized Hendrix. As for SRV, yeah, it's difficult to get the nuances of his playing down. Personally, I like to learn his tunes note-for-note at first and then branch out. Those covers I had are pretty faithful, but once you have a knack for some SRV type licks and "style" I guess you can improvise a lot of his stuff. It takes time though, man. If you're gonna sit down a learn a Stevie tune as he played it, prepare yourself for some frustration. The guy was a f'ing legend for a reason.

Look up something like "Cold Shot" if you wanna break into his stuff. Fairly simplistic playing with a lot of flavor. Probably a good intro to Stevie's stuff. And, as always, thanks for watching Hawk. Lemme know if you wanna talk guitar or need help or anything.

Ben Jordan
05-31-2009, 08:37 PM
Cool stuff. You are pretty good.

Do you stick to your strat mostly?

GOBB
05-31-2009, 08:44 PM
1. http://www.vicpine.co.uk/p_crossroads.jpg

2. Shorts too tight in that one video

3. Cool vids

johndeeregreen
05-31-2009, 08:48 PM
The shorts are actually fairly loose, maybe they were just pulled tight or something. Thanks for the heads-up, though. :oldlol: Maybe I should re-tape it, haha.


Do you stick to your strat mostly?
Yeah, well, I only have two guitars, a beat up MexiStrat with acoustic strings on it raised up I only use to play slide stuff, and the Clapton.

pete's montreux
05-31-2009, 09:04 PM
:eek: @ the Sky Is Crying.

Subscribed.

GOBB
05-31-2009, 09:07 PM
Lynyrd Skynyrd - I Know a Little (Cover)

This video was real good.

pete's montreux
05-31-2009, 09:19 PM
my air guitar > your real life guitar

Deal with it.

johndeeregreen
05-31-2009, 11:43 PM
:eek: @ the Sky Is Crying.

Subscribed.
Thanks pete. That one was a son of a btch to learn. Any time there's no actual riffs and just Stevie being Stevie...frustrating. Appreciate the view.


This video was real good.
Thanks Gobb. Always been one of my favorite Skynyrd songs. I defy anyone to not tap their foot to it.

Hawker
05-31-2009, 11:48 PM
JDG, do you tune your guitar half a step down by ear or do you use a tuner for that? I have no chance at tuning it by ear. Just wondering how you do it.

johndeeregreen
05-31-2009, 11:50 PM
JDG, do you tune your guitar half a step down by ear or do you use a tuner for that? I have no chance at tuning it by ear. Just wondering how you do it.
Personally, the simplest and most efficient way is to just use a tuner. Barring that, there are websites that will play an Eb out loud on your speakers as a reference.

Hawker
05-31-2009, 11:51 PM
Personally, the simplest and most efficient way is to just use a tuner. Barring that, there are websites that will play an Eb out loud on your speakers as a reference.

Sweet. I'm glad those tuners exist. I'll need to get one. I really just need to sit down and play some SRV for hours...that'll have to wait though. I left my electric at home. Only have my acoustic for the summer.

Who the f*ck is Delaney?

pete's montreux
05-31-2009, 11:52 PM
I'd love to see you take a crack at say....some Eddie Van Halen. He's got my all time favorite tone. So f*cking raw.

Hawker
05-31-2009, 11:54 PM
I'd love to see you take a crack at say....some Eddie Van Halen. He's got my all time favorite tone. So f*cking raw.

The thing that sucks about Van Halen is you have to have a decent package of effects otherwise it just wont sound like him at all.

pete's montreux
05-31-2009, 11:55 PM
The thing that sucks about Van Halen is you have to have a decent package of effects otherwise it just wont sound like him at all.

Even on the first record?

Hawker
05-31-2009, 11:56 PM
Even on the first record?

What's your fave song of his?

johndeeregreen
05-31-2009, 11:56 PM
Sweet. I'm glad those tuners exist. I'll need to get one. I really just need to sit down and play some SRV for hours...that'll have to wait though. I left my electric at home. Only have my acoustic for the summer.
If you wanna rock some SRV on an acoustic, try this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZPMScX9-k) A beautiful song and pretty easy too.


Who the f*ck is Delaney?
My 11-year-old sister. She thinks it's just the coolest damn thing that her name's on YouTube, heh. So I do it for her.


I'd love to see you take a crack at say....some Eddie Van Halen. He's got my all time favorite tone. So f*cking raw.
Due to EVH's retardedly sick lead skills, his rhythm playing gets completely overlooked, when it might be the strongest part of his playing. As for taking a crack at it, I don't stray too far outside of blues these days, and I'm totally lost when it comes to the right hand on the fretboard.

pete's montreux
05-31-2009, 11:58 PM
What's your fave song of his?
Wow, so many.

I've been listening to Hang Em High and I'm the One a lot lately. My favorite song of his is a secret until I do my top 50 guitar riffs thread.

Eddie's probably my second favorite guitarist after old Jimmy Page.

Hawker
05-31-2009, 11:59 PM
If you wanna rock some SRV on an acoustic, try this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZPMScX9-k) A beautiful song and pretty easy too.


My 11-year-old sister. She thinks it's just the coolest damn thing that her name's on YouTube, heh. So I do it for her.


Due to EVH's retardedly sick lead skills, his rhythm playing gets completely overlooked, when it might be the strongest part of his playing. As for taking a crack at it, I don't stray too far outside of blues these days, and I'm totally lost when it comes to the right hand on the fretboard.

Ha, that's sweet of you. I used to know Life By the Drop actually. It is pretty easy for an SRV song. It was actually written by a friend of his to get SRV to stop drinking.

dwight20-20
06-01-2009, 12:06 AM
i might post something a little later. im not bad.

xcesswee
06-01-2009, 02:58 AM
Hey man great channel. I just started to listening blues this year and I absolutely love it. However, do you like any pink floyd? I would love to see you rock out the solo on comfortably numb.

johndeeregreen
06-01-2009, 02:12 PM
I've known that solo for years, but I definitely do not have the FX packages available to me to sound like David Gilmour.

The_Yearning
06-01-2009, 02:35 PM
John Mayer for the new school.

johndeeregreen
06-01-2009, 03:24 PM
John Mayer for the new school.
:no:

Mayer is good when he's covering somebody legendary, but that's where it comes to a screeching halt.

boozehound
06-01-2009, 04:28 PM
This video was real good.
yeah, just checking it out. Havent seen others yet. Nice chops man. Tone is poor but I think its due to the weak microphone on your camera (the high end is real thin). Id like to see you playing your own ideas over a 12bar or something. Good chops on the cover, but its hard to really get a handle on you and your styling when you are playing it note for note. Show us how you branch out.

boozehound
06-01-2009, 04:30 PM
Sweet. I'm glad those tuners exist. I'll need to get one. I really just need to sit down and play some SRV for hours...that'll have to wait though. I left my electric at home. Only have my acoustic for the summer.

Who the f*ck is Delaney?
bonnie and delaney? One of the late 60s supergroups. clapton played in their band for a minute. Is your sis named after this?

boozehound
06-01-2009, 04:33 PM
whats your setup?

boozehound
06-01-2009, 04:46 PM
from the keystone's video. Made me laugh

The guitarist is my student teacher and he's the man! And I blow up works bombs with the rockin drummer! These men are the epiphany of love makers!

I would like to see some more footage of you in a band setting (practice or gig, doesnt matter). I have seen some kids who could absolutely shred (including a classical whiz) but couldnt play in an ensemble to save their lives. Not saying you are like that, just saying that a better judge of musicianship is in a situation where you dont control all the variables.

johndeeregreen
06-01-2009, 05:18 PM
from the keystone's video. Made me laugh

The guitarist is my student teacher and he's the man! And I blow up works bombs with the rockin drummer! These men are the epiphany of love makers!
Haha, I don't even know who left that. I taught guitar for a little while but that wasn't one of my students.


whats your setup?
That's a Clapton through a POS Line6.

boozehound
06-01-2009, 05:30 PM
Haha, I don't even know who left that. I taught guitar for a little while but that wasn't one of my students.


That's a Clapton through a POS Line6.
no external processor or pedals? As I said, its hard to evaluate the tone through those vids, but I will say the entire spectrum sounds clear. Do you do requests?

johndeeregreen
06-01-2009, 06:14 PM
no external processor or pedals?
I've barely had enough money to feed myself the last four years. I had a pretty decent summer job last year (made $7-9k or so) and was thinking about getting some new stuff, but then the engine went on my old pickup and I poured almost every cent of that into my new one. Basically went right back to square one.


As I said, its hard to evaluate the tone through those vids, but I will say the entire spectrum sounds clear. Do you do requests?
Depends, what do you want to hear?

pete's montreux
06-01-2009, 08:06 PM
Oh! Pick me!

Do Unskinny Bop by Poison.

I'm obviously kidding.

pete's montreux
06-01-2009, 11:49 PM
Real talk, do ABB's Its Not My Cross to Bear

boozehound
06-02-2009, 09:13 AM
Real talk, do ABB's Its Not My Cross to Bear
I was thinking In memory of elizabeth reed. How about some hendrix? Could you do WHo knows from BoG?

xcesswee
06-02-2009, 11:40 AM
Do jimi hendrix little wing

johndeeregreen
06-02-2009, 02:09 PM
I can put up some Jimi. I'm aiming to not put up songs that everyone else has done a million times (like Little Wing, which I've played roughly 5,481 times in my life), but I'll probably stick a version of Red House up at some point. And sure, I'll check out some Allman Bros.

i seen hippos
06-02-2009, 02:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va44PcJdjqQ

Great song to play at the cottage or even around a campfire if you got electrical outlets.

RedBlackAttack
06-06-2009, 10:51 PM
Just checked out the first video (They Call Me Guitar Hurricane)... Good stuff, man. I was especially impressed with your strumming hand, especially on some of the muted parts and on a few of your lead runs.

Are you completely self taught (not sure if this has been asked... Didn't read through the thread)? You've got that SRV style down pretty damned good. I'm interested in hearing your take on Hendrix.

The Sky is Crying was well done, as well. I'd like to hear you stray a little from the original notes, but your technique is definitely good. It is damned difficult to do all of those bends and keep your guitar in tune. What gauge string are you using? What kind of amp do you have, there? I was trying to spot it just by eye, but didn't recognize it.

You using a reverb peddle on the Gary Moore tune? I thought I heard something apart from the amp settings on those rhythm parts? Anyway, Delaney's Bro is probably my favorite of your uploads. You showed off some nice rhythm skills as well as hitting the lead parts.

Only one I haven't had a chance to check out is the Skynyrd... Will do that later tonight.

I am going to upload something in this thread... I might do a few acoustic numbers, since you seem to have the electric side pretty well covered. Gonna have to be strictly audio, though. I don't have a webcam... Just a crappy voice recorder at the moment, but it should work if I plug my Martin into an amp and lay the recorder next to it.

Good stuff, man. Keep up the good work. You are a true bluesman.

johndeeregreen
06-06-2009, 10:59 PM
Just checked out the first video (They Call Me Guitar Hurricane)... Good stuff, man. I was especially impressed with your strumming hand, especially on some of the muted parts and on a few of your lead runs.
Thanks! I'm not totally happy with that take as I play that song a lot either with others or on my own and I take the tempo up 20 bpm or so, and as a result, when I play ahead of the recording, I tend to get just that little bit ahead of it so it loses that "groove" feel a bit. Overall, it's an ok take though.


Are you completely self taught (not sure if this has been asked... Didn't read through the thread)? You've got that SRV style down pretty damned good. I'm interested in hearing your take on Hendrix.
I taught myself until I took guitar lessons my junior year of college (two years ago), and that's when I really got into the blues stuff. IDK, I'd say self taught for 5-6 years and then a couple semester's worth of lessons, but mostly the lessons just made me play a lot more, not so much teaching (although I learned some really cool stuff from a really good instructor).


The Sky is Crying was well done, as well. I'd like to hear you stray a little from the original notes, but your technique is definitely good.
Honestly, it's such a "base" blues tune I'd prefer it too, but it would've sounded crappy with the improv over Stevie's leads.


It is damned difficult to do all of those bends and keep your guitar in tune. What gauge string are you using?
I'm at 11's right now. Too thin to truly get the SRV sound, but I don't feel like going through a neck every year with the high gauge strings.


What kind of amp do you have, there? I was trying to spot it just by eye, but didn't recognize it.
Piece of crap Line6 Spider2. It's loud...that's about it.


You using a reverb peddle on the Gary Moore tune? I thought I heard something apart from the amp settings on those rhythm parts?
Heh, probably just the crappy ass webcam quality. No ext pedals.


I am going to upload something in this thread... I might do a few acoustic numbers, since you seem to have the electric side pretty well covered. Gonna have to be strictly audio, though. I don't have a webcam... Just a crappy voice recorder at the moment, but it should work if I plug my Martin into an amp and lay the recorder next to it.
Look forward to it. Gimme some Neil! (if you want, heh)

RedBlackAttack
06-07-2009, 04:47 AM
Look forward to it. Gimme some Neil! (if you want, heh)

I will definitely get to some Neil, if you want me to, but since I've been giving Explosions in the Sky so much exposure and I think that they are an insanely talented, underrated band, I thought that I would start with an acoustic rendition of their song Your Hand In Mine that I composed.

I know that this is a blues guitar thread (and I can get to some blues), but I also know there are other EITS fans on here and maybe a few who have never heard their music, but may like it.

Here is the original song...

Your Hand in Mine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzIK5FaC38w&feature=related)

Here is a partial piece of the song in the movie 'Friday Night Lights'...

EITS in Friday Night Lights I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYN4jnA8fKs) (comes in at about 1:40 and really makes the scene)
EITS in Friday Night Lights II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6gulcYeG4&feature=related)

The original track actually incorporates three guitarists (and one of the guitarists grabs a bass occasionally). So, when I wrote this homage to the band, I had to pick and choose which multiple guitar parts that best suited a one guitar version, because it is just completely impossible to get all of the parts in this kind of an acoustic composition.

It is still a work in progress and I'm trying to work in more of the song's 'fireworks,' but it is coming along, so I thought I would share. Note that this is a very long, at times very complex song and, without a drummer, it is very difficult keep time.... I had to treat it almost like a classical composition, which isn't really the song's intent, but I think it lends itself well to classical guitar. Also, it is so long, I didn't want to have to do multiple takes, so there are some very obvious mistakes at points, but hey... It is what it is. I just got off work and wanted to contribute something so this thread stays alive, because it is a great idea to have one in which fellow musically involved ISHers post their stuff.

I don't know if this will appeal to your bluesman nature, JDG, but I'll get some acoustic blues on here for you eventually.

Before everyone tells me how bad the recording is (it really isn't THAT bad), I had to plug my Martin D-28 into a sh!tty amp and then place a voice recorder next to the amp, so the highs are often too high and the lows are often too low, but it was the only recording option I have available at the moment and I wanted to contribute something, so I said "f#ck it."

All yeah... One last thing... I am actually tuned down a half of a step and the original is in standard, but my guitar was already tuned down and I didn't feel like tuning it back up to standard.

Anyway... Hope some people enjoy it and, if so, I can load the song when it is a finished product.

RBA's acoustic tribute to Your Hand in Mine (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M6ZCY1X5)

Any requests from anyone? I know a bunch of classic Zeppelin, Floyd, Hendrix, Neil Young, The Beatles, etc., as well as some lesser known stuff by groups like Alice In Chains, Fleet Foxes, Phish, My Morning Jacket, Pearl Jam, Nick Drake, RHCP, Smashing Pumpkins, etc... And I know just about every Radiohead song ever.

I sort of want to keep it acoustic, though, since JDG has the electric thing covered and I can't really crank up my amp when using a voice recorder as my only source of recording.

johndeeregreen
06-07-2009, 03:07 PM
I know that this is a blues guitar thread (and I can get to some blues), but I also know there are other EITS fans on here and maybe a few who have never heard their music, but may like it.
Lulz, not a big deal, post whatever you want, man. Incidentally, is it bad that I liked the FNL TV series more than the film?

Listening right now. The bluesman in me wants to say this is in a really slow 12/8, but 3/4 is probably the actual timing. Really pretty sound, and even this shows how many lightyears ahead of me you are in terms of fingerpicking. I can't truly tell by listening, but it sounds like there might be a fair amount of Hendrix-ian thumb work here. I dig the part where it 'speeds up' (even though it doesn't really speed up, you just go from quarters to eighths). Nice work keeping the low harmony present but not overwhelming the leads, and vice versa. A lot of people have a tendency to over/underemphasize on a comp like this, but pretty good balance. Of course there's a few mistakes, but nothing noticeable really and the comp is almost 7 minutes long.

Really nice playing. Are you hybriding or just straight fingerpicking? I could be wrong, but I thought I could hear a pick attack in there a couple times. I also like how it sounds like you're going Charlie Z on your mic before and after.:oldlol:

I'm not familiar at all with that tune, so if there was some monstrous fckup in terms of musical direction in there, I wouldn't be able to help, but the playing itself sounded really nice. I imagine it would sound fantastic if it was recorded better quality, but I think that's something we all aspire to.

RedBlackAttack
06-07-2009, 03:58 PM
Listening right now. The bluesman in me wants to say this is in a really slow 12/8, but 3/4 is probably the actual timing.

It is supposed to be 3/4.


I can't truly tell by listening, but it sounds like there might be a fair amount of Hendrix-ian thumb work here.

Good ear... I do a fair amount of barring with my thumb on this and, in general when I play. It really does free you up, especially when you are attempting to keep a rhythm and do lead parts at the same time.


I dig the part where it 'speeds up' (even though it doesn't really speed up, you just go from quarters to eighths). Nice work keeping the low harmony present but not overwhelming the leads, and vice versa. A lot of people have a tendency to over/underemphasize on a comp like this, but pretty good balance.

The recorder was picking up the highs much stronger than the lows (which is what I expected). There really is supposed to be an almost completely even balance, even on the lead parts. But, all things considered, it came out OK.


Of course there's a few mistakes, but nothing noticeable really and the comp is almost 7 minutes long.

I almost stopped and did another take toward the end because I f#cked up the climax of the song, but I didn't want to have to play all of that all over again... Plus it was like 5 in the morning. :oldlol:

I thought if I kept restarting, I would never finish and end up face down on my computer desk. I just listened back to it and you can literally hear me wearing down toward the end. :oldlol:

Maybe I should have picked something a little less complex for 5 a.m.?


Really nice playing. Are you hybriding or just straight fingerpicking? I could be wrong, but I thought I could hear a pick attack in there a couple times.

This is just a straight fingerpicking piece, but, I use a fair amount of tremolo, which can be mistaken for a pick attack style with no video to be sure.


I also like how it sounds like you're going Charlie Z on your mic before and after.:oldlol:

:oldlol:



I'm not familiar at all with that tune, so if there was some monstrous fckup in terms of musical direction in there, I wouldn't be able to help, but the playing itself sounded really nice. I imagine it would sound fantastic if it was recorded better quality, but I think that's something we all aspire to.

Thanks, man. There aren't any major gaffs in terms of getting the major parts of the song down. They do use a ton of distortion on the peaks, but that is impossible to replicate with a single acoustic guitar and POS Crate amp. I didn't want it to be an exact replica of the original, anyway. My goal is to turn it into more of a classical guitar piece.

I figured, with your excellent blues chops, I would take it to the other end of the guitar spectrum.

I'll upload some more stuff at some point in the near future. If anyone has any suggestions or requests, I'm open to pretty much whatever.

Hawker
06-07-2009, 05:54 PM
I'll be getting some new strings on my acoustic soon and I'll play layla on acoustic. Not a hard tune and I'll just jam out in D minor/F major on the solos.

johndeeregreen
06-07-2009, 06:05 PM
I'll be getting some new strings on my acoustic soon and I'll play layla on acoustic. Not a hard tune and I'll just jam out in D minor/F major on the solos.
Sounds good. I wouldn't get too much into major scales for that; remember that it's a rock and roll tune at heart and that means minor pentatonic is going to be your best bet.

RidonKs
06-07-2009, 06:23 PM
Very nice RBA. Certain parts broke down, but as opposed to you wearing down, it sounded more as if you just needed the accompanying instruments that are generally used. One guy on one guitar with two hands can only do so much. Really though, that's great playing, but pretty frickin' impressive arrangement as well to incorporate the right parts from the right band members at the right time, and keep it sounding the way it did

Very beautiful dude, maybe I'll have some requests for you in the next few days.


I'm a super duper beginner, having grudgingly taken lessons and stopped maybe six years ago, before I really found my appreciation for music. A friend and I were listening to Wish You Were Here a little while ago and decided that there's no better time than the present to learn that opening duet. He's got much more experience than me, so it's going to be up to me to keep up my part of the bargain. I think I'll be doing the opening guitar part (rhythm? maybe?) and then he'll come in for the acoustic solo. And then BOOM goes the dynamite.

RedBlackAttack
06-07-2009, 06:44 PM
Very nice RBA. Certain parts broke down, but as opposed to you wearing down, it sounded more as if you just needed the accompanying instruments that are generally used. One guy on one guitar with two hands can only do so much. Really though, that's great playing, but pretty frickin' impressive arrangement as well to incorporate the right parts from the right band members at the right time, and keep it sounding the way it did

Very beautiful dude, maybe I'll have some requests for you in the next few days.

Thanks for the compliments. I know that you really 'know' this song, so I'm glad you enjoyed my take on it. I agree with you that some of the parts definitely needed that accompaniment, but, as I said, it is still a work in progress. I'm figuring out ways to incorporate some of those other guitar and bass parts into it.

But, yeah... when you have three very skilled players like EITS, it is difficult to replicate with just one set of hands.


I'm a super duper beginner, having grudgingly taken lessons and stopped maybe six years ago, before I really found my appreciation for music. A friend and I were listening to Wish You Were Here a little while ago and decided that there's no better time than the present to learn that opening duet. He's got much more experience than me, so it's going to be up to me to keep up my part of the bargain. I think I'll be doing the opening guitar part (rhythm? maybe?) and then he'll come in for the acoustic solo. And then BOOM goes the dynamite.

Wish You Were Here is a great way to start your love affair with the instrument. The rhythm part shouldn't be much of a problem, assuming you put in the required time. Nothing worthwhile comes easy and, something that may seem very difficult to you now will feel like child's play down the road if you get a consistent practice routine going.

I remember when I first started playing, I wanted to learn Led Zeppelin's 'Rain Song' in the worst way (the acoustic rhythm is beautiful). When I finally conquered that, I reset my goals. That is the key with playing the guitar... Always have a destination in mind and a realistic place that you want to get, as a player.

That reminds me... The Rain Song is a f#cking great acoustic song to play... Maybe that will be my next upload. :confusedshrug:

It is in a very funky tuning... CGCGCD.

johndeeregreen
06-07-2009, 06:57 PM
I'm a super duper beginner, having grudgingly taken lessons and stopped maybe six years ago, before I really found my appreciation for music.
I also took lessons briefly and quit for a few years. The first teacher I had was horrible. Didn't stimulate my interest in it at all, and that's why I played for six or seven years before taking another lesson.:oldlol:

Like RBA said though, Wish You Were Here is a great tune, shouldn't be overly difficult, and is a nice introduction to some basic chords.

Oh yeah RBA, you should hit us with some "Over the Hills and Far Away." Gorgeous licks in that one. I'm piecing together a pretty well known Jimi tune as I type this.

RedBlackAttack
06-07-2009, 07:14 PM
Oh yeah RBA, you should hit us with some "Over the Hills and Far Away." Gorgeous licks in that one. I'm piecing together a pretty well known Jimi tune as I type this.
Yeah, man... Not a problem. Over the Hills and Far Away is an old standby... One that always gets the crowd jumping. It would be cool if we could somehow collaborate, because the solo is killer. But, you are right... The intro riffs are classic Page.

RedBlackAttack
06-07-2009, 07:17 PM
What Hendrix song you working on? One of my favorites and a lesser known track is Wait Until Tomorrow. Great, great licks and rhythm in that tune.

RidonKs
06-07-2009, 07:22 PM
Over the Hills and Far Away is one I really want to learn. I learned most of the beginning of Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, which is one of my fav Zep songs. That was during exam time though, while I was procrastinating studying, so I figure I've forgotten most of it having not picked up a guitar in over a month.


Btw, you've heard Birth and Death of the Day, right RBA? That's easily, and I mean easily my favourite EITS song. And I like them a lot (as you well know). lol

RedBlackAttack
06-07-2009, 07:31 PM
Btw, you've heard Birth and Death of the Day, right RBA? That's easily, and I mean easily my favourite EITS song. And I like them a lot (as you well know). lol
The Birth and the Death of Day into Welcome, Ghosts is just the perfect way to start an album. Chris Hrasky (their drummer) has really kicked it up several notches with each respective album. His best work to date is in The Birth and the Death of Day, imo. He really drives that song.

RidonKs
06-07-2009, 07:54 PM
Definitely. The drumming kicks in and sets off the entire song about halfway through. And then he does his little hit-the-sticks-together thing near the end, which sounds perfect too.

6:15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvm1AE1b2n8)

Dayum.

Sorry to hijack your thread JDG.

Actually, no I'm not. lol

johndeeregreen
06-08-2009, 12:00 AM
Yeah, man... Not a problem. Over the Hills and Far Away is an old standby... One that always gets the crowd jumping. It would be cool if we could somehow collaborate, because the solo is killer. But, you are right... The intro riffs are classic Page.
Yeah, a collab would be good; unfortunately, I have no idea how we'd pull it off. I'm doing Watchtower right now. Re-learning it, actually. Learned it in high school and haven't played anything but the rhythm since (the other guy took the leads in our band). Wait Til Tomorrow is great, but John Mayer could ruin cereal. Serious turn off for me. Some of my other fave Hendrix tunes that aren't as well known are Burning of the Midnight Lamp, People People, the original Voodoo Chile, and Highway Chile...to name a few.


Sorry to hijack your thread JDG.
Keeping it on the front page is hardly hijacking in my book. Give 'er.

RedBlackAttack
06-08-2009, 01:12 AM
Yeah, a collab would be good; unfortunately, I have no idea how we'd pull it off. I'm doing Watchtower right now. Re-learning it, actually. Learned it in high school and haven't played anything but the rhythm since (the other guy took the leads in our band). Wait Til Tomorrow is great, but John Mayer could ruin cereal. Serious turn off for me. Some of my other fave Hendrix tunes that aren't as well known are Burning of the Midnight Lamp, People People, the original Voodoo Chile, and Highway Chile...to name a few.
John Mayer covered Wait Until Tomorrow? And this is a widely known fact... and a lot of people have heard it? That is seriously the worst news I have heard all day.

I'm sure you have the album 'Jimi Hendrix: Blues'? That may be my favorite Hendrix album... Just the nastiest jams ever. His version of 'Born Under a Bad Sign' is just phenomenal.

There is also 'Voodoo Chile Blues,' which is insane.

johndeeregreen
06-08-2009, 01:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjf36Rg5w6Q

Sorry, man.

And yeah, I meant that cut of Voodoo Chile. The blues album is great; Jimi doesn't get credit for it, but definitely one of the best blues axe slingers ever.

RedBlackAttack
06-08-2009, 03:19 AM
As requested, here is a little Over the Hills and Far Away. I didn't do the whole thing because the chords get sort of redundant without the layered guitar work to spruce them up. Also, it has been a little while since I played this so, after refreshing myself quickly on the intro, I sort of flubbed a couple secitons of the verse (easiest part).

It has a really cool outro, too, but I would need to refresh on that and I wanted to post something tonight. So, here ya go (I even gave you a little solo shout out at the end, JDG)...

(Damn... I need new strings... BADLY)

RBA's cover of Over the Hills and Far Away (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7KR7PI5V)

...All yeah... On the album, much of these parts are actually played with a 12-string (including much of the intro). This song sounds great with a 12 and I used to have one... Traded it in somewhere along the way.

RedBlackAttack
06-08-2009, 03:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjf36Rg5w6Q

Sorry, man.


I don't know how, but he managed to make a Hendrix classic sound totally douchy. Thanks, John... You're the man... :hammerhead:

It is like Hendrix musak.

johndeeregreen
06-08-2009, 03:30 AM
Listening right now. TBH, I can't believe I requested this song because I don't even really like Led Zeppelin. To me, half of their damn catalogue sounds like Ramble On. This is an admittedly strange complaint coming from a guy who is going to see AC/DC for the second time on their current tour in August, but...I don't know. Could never get into Page's style or groove at all. To me he feels like a jack of all trades and master of none. I know that's next to blasphemy in the guitar world but I just don't really appreciate Zep. They're one of (if not the) most talented bands I've ever listened to, but I just can't feel them.

Anyways, now that that's over - always loved the intro licks to this, and the timing. You play it very well RB but those strings are KILLING you. They have absolutely zero life left in them. Ditch those ASAP and re-record this, because your playing is down the middle but I'm getting no feel of those strings. But then...you already knew that. Straying even further off track, this is another tune that I always think is Ramble On. Right when those chords come in at about 1:30 I'm always ready to go "RAMBLE ON!!" Eh...

Not much I can really critique on this, except that at 1:54 I think I actually heard a piece of rust snap off one of your crap ass strings.:oldlol: Nice stuff RB. And I did literally laugh out loud when you went "solo" and then immediately you get *PFPFFSSFFTT!* of you overhand righting your microphone.


I don't know how, but he managed to make a Hendrix classic sound totally douchy. Thanks, John... You're the man...
In all honestly, I didn't think he ruined BaL quite as bad as everyone else did. When you forget it's John Mayer, the solo is actually pretty tasty. And I have to give him some credit for re-introducing these tunes to kids, chicks, and d-bags who have never heard them, and also give him a shoutout for the time playing Bold as Love on an acoustic got me laid, when a chick said, "oh my God, you know John Mayer?!?"

But yeah, besides that, eff him.

johndeeregreen
06-08-2009, 03:34 AM
And when I was on YT I just came across him doing Free Fallin'.

Do not want.

RedBlackAttack
06-08-2009, 03:49 AM
Listening right now. TBH, I can't believe I requested this song because I don't even really like Led Zeppelin. To me, half of their damn catalogue sounds like Ramble On. This is an admittedly strange complaint coming from a guy who is going to see AC/DC for the second time on their current tour in August, but...I don't know. Could never get into Page's style or groove at all. To me he feels like a jack of all trades and master of none. I know that's next to blasphemy in the guitar world but I just don't really appreciate Zep. They're one of (if not the) most talented bands I've ever listened to, but I just can't feel them.

Anyways, now that that's over - always loved the intro licks to this, and the timing. You play it very well RB but those strings are KILLING you. They have absolutely zero life left in them. Ditch those ASAP and re-record this, because your playing is down the middle but I'm getting no feel of those strings. But then...you already knew that. Straying even further off track, this is another tune that I always think is Ramble On. Right when those chords come in at about 1:30 I'm always ready to go "RAMBLE ON!!" Eh...

Not much I can really critique on this, except that at 1:54 I think I actually heard a piece of rust snap off one of your crap ass strings.:oldlol: Nice stuff RB. And I did literally laugh out loud when you went "solo" and then immediately you get *PFPFFSSFFTT!* of you overhand righting your microphone.


LOL!

Yeah... I've procrastinated on getting new strings on my old girl for far too long. I've been so busy at work and the damn music store is always closed by the time I get off. I probably should have ordered my Martin SP's online months ago, but I like supporting the locally owned places.

Completely disagree with you about Zep and Jimmy, but then again, I always thought that Jimmy's best work was his acoustic stuff. Over the Hills and Far Away, Rain Song, Bron-Y-Aur, Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, That's the Way (greatly underrated track), Tangerine, Friends, White Summer/Black Mountain Side (have you ever heard this one?), Ten Years Gone, Gallows Pole, Battle of Evermore, Going to California...

Those are just some of his acoustic masterpieces. When I listen to Zeppelin, I normally steer clear of the electric stuff these days. I still have a soft spot for all Zep (turned me from rap to rock as a youngster), but their elongated drum solos and guitar solos can get a little repetitive.

But, his acoustic stuff... It really is flawless music. That is where Jimmy shines. Also, John Paul Jones was a f#cking awesome mandolin player and he also kills it on many of those classics.

Sorry about the rusty strings... :ohwell:


In all honestly, I didn't think he ruined BaL quite as bad as everyone else did. When you forget it's John Mayer, the solo is actually pretty tasty. And I have to give him some credit for re-introducing these tunes to kids, chicks, and d-bags who have never heard them, and also give him a shoutout for the time playing Bold as Love on an acoustic got me laid, when a chick said, "oh my God, you know John Mayer?!?"

But yeah, besides that, eff him.

See... I've never heard his cover of Bold As Love. I have Sirius satellite radio, some I'm able to screen what pops up on my radio and John Mayer leads to an automatic change of station.

Good work on using it to get in some boots, though. I learned basically Dave Matthews' entire catalog in my early-20s for that sole purpose... And it paid off. I'm telling you, man... Something about those Dave Matthews chords gets the panties moist.

RedBlackAttack
06-08-2009, 03:52 AM
And when I was on YT I just came across him doing Free Fallin'.

God help us.

johndeeregreen
06-08-2009, 12:26 PM
Good work on using it to get in some boots, though. I learned basically Dave Matthews' entire catalog in my early-20s for that sole purpose... And it paid off. I'm telling you, man... Something about those Dave Matthews chords gets the panties moist.
Well, as Ozzy said, I'd sell my soul for rock and roll, but I wouldn't play DMB for all of King Midas' silver.

I knew you would disagree with me about Zep, mainly because none of my points are really valid, but nevertheless...still couldn't get into them. I really don't know why.

I'm going to a job interview right now but later today I'll pop something new up. Not gonna be Jimi, either; talking about AC/DC reminded me of an absolutely fantastic blues they used to do.

And, although he ruins everything he touches, I still have to respect Mayer for a) trying b) knowing what good music is and c) actually being a pretty decent guitarist. He played the tune "Crossroads" with EC and completely tarnished the vox, but he had a half decent solo.

pete's montreux
06-08-2009, 04:03 PM
I should hate you for saying anything negative about the almighty Led Zeppelin, but I don't. I hardly listen to them anymore. :confusedshrug:

RedBlackAttack
06-08-2009, 04:20 PM
Well, as Ozzy said, I'd sell my soul for rock and roll, but I wouldn't play DMB for all of King Midas' silver.
Believe it or not, Matthews is actually a pretty damned good rhythm player. He uses some very funky chords and has a very distinct style. Of course, once you learn one of his songs, you can learn them all, but that first one can be a little tricky.

Plus, people were always requesting that sh!t when I played out, so I learned them just to appease the audience, which I generally try not to do. But, the requests for Dave Matthews in the early-00s became so heavy that it could no longer be ignored.

His solo acoustic stuff with Tim Reynolds isn't nearly as bad as the DMB crap. Reynolds can tear it up and you get a better feel for Matthews' rhythm talents with just the two of them.


And, although he ruins everything he touches, I still have to respect Mayer for a) trying b) knowing what good music is and c) actually being a pretty decent guitarist. He played the tune "Crossroads" with EC and completely tarnished the vox, but he had a half decent solo.

I like Mayer's musical taste (from what I can tell) and he actually is a pretty good guitarist, but unfortunately, everything he touches turns into 'Mayer musak.' But, it is pretty clear that his influences are solid. It just got lost in translation somewhere along the way.

johndeeregreen
06-08-2009, 06:20 PM
Added a new track today. One of my favorite Angus solos of all time and a real nifty piece of guitar work. I'd recommend checking out the original for a better listen. This is a tune only serious AC/DC heads will recognize. Actually fairly difficult, matching Angus' vibrato. He's got one of the most recognizable vibratos in rock guitar IMO, and it's very rapid and oftentimes extremely wide.

AC/DC - Ride On (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvrsLnTB7k)

RedBlackAttack
06-08-2009, 07:05 PM
Added a new track today. One of my favorite Angus solos of all time and a real nifty piece of guitar work. I'd recommend checking out the original for a better listen. This is a tune only serious AC/DC heads will recognize. Actually fairly difficult, matching Angus' vibrato. He's got one of the most recognizable vibratos in rock guitar IMO, and it's very rapid and oftentimes extremely wide.

AC/DC - Ride On (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvrsLnTB7k)
Once again, good stuff. The song itself sort of reminds me of some early Stones. I never got into ACDC, personally, so this is the first time I've heard this particular track. Good stuff... Some killer licks in there. It is tough for me to say if you nailed the tone of the vibrato, because I don't know the song, I'm not that familiar with Angus' style, and those little intricacies are hard to hear with just a webcam mic.

But, it sounded good to me.

I guess I feel the same about ACDC as you do about Zep. I respect them as musicians (although, from a purely technical standpoint, they are not on Zep's level), but I could just never really get into them. I do like this particular song, though. This style of a very calm, soothing chordal structure followed quickly by balls to the wall rock is right up my alley.

Nice.

johndeeregreen
06-08-2009, 07:54 PM
Once again, good stuff. The song itself sort of reminds me of some early Stones. I never got into ACDC, personally, so this is the first time I've heard this particular track. Good stuff... Some killer licks in there. It is tough for me to say if you nailed the tone of the vibrato, because I don't know the song, I'm not that familiar with Angus' style, and those little intricacies are hard to hear with just a webcam mic.
Yeah, of course the sound quality wasn't what I wanted, but...eh.


I guess I feel the same about ACDC as you do about Zep. I respect them as musicians (although, from a purely technical standpoint, they are not on Zep's level)
You don't say.:oldlol: Actually, the only guys in that band that really seem to have any skill instrumentally are the Young bros. The bassist (Cliff Williams) and drummer (Phil Rudd) don't help write anything...they just play, ridiculously simply I might add. Effective, though.

They don't do tunes like this anymore, save for "The Jack," but...ah well.

johndeeregreen
06-08-2009, 09:24 PM
One thing I want to add is that if you ever get a chance to see AC/DC live before they finish up...take it, even if it costs you a few bucks and you aren't THAT into them. They are still electrifying even at their age. I saw them in November, and although Angus had an off night, they still put on one of the best damn straightforward rock and roll shows out of anyone.

They're in their prime here, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doHoE156RAo) but still, don't tell me this song wouldn't get you rockin'.

RidonKs
06-08-2009, 09:26 PM
I think I might be going to see them this summer. I hope I'm going. In fact, I'm going to make sure I'm going by tomorrow. Indeed.

Angus is decrepit. lol

pete's montreux
06-08-2009, 10:30 PM
Ok, how do you not love the pure rock awesomeness that is the Song Remains the Same? I mean, c'mon, man!

:rockon:

And I've been rocking Snowballed a lot lately. One of the DC's most rocking songs, IMO.

johndeeregreen
06-08-2009, 11:02 PM
Angus is decrepit. lol
No doubt. Here's the pics from when I saw them in St. Paul, MN in November. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110692)

johndeeregreen
06-24-2009, 07:27 PM
Johndeeregreen - "Hangover Blues" (http://rapidshare.com/files/248306054/hangover_blues_mixdown.mp3.html)

johndeeregreen
06-25-2009, 06:22 PM
Bump of shame.

RedBlackAttack
06-25-2009, 06:29 PM
Bump of shame.
Oh sh!t.... Totally missed this yesterday. I will download and give it a listen right now... Even with my Jacko-induced mourning underway.

RedBlackAttack
06-25-2009, 06:43 PM
Well done...

I liked the rhythm for the first minute, but it sounded a little 'tinny'... Then you came in with the massive solos and it became clear why you chose to make the intro underwhelming (as far as tone goes).

I got a much better taste of your playing and style in this one than I had in the ones where you were playing over the original recordings. I'm digging it.

I definitely hear SRV influence in your rhythm and the overall direction of the tune, but your solos are more Clapton-esque. It seems you are working from a nice middle ground between the two.

My favorite solo was the last one. Wish you would have elongated that a bit. But, solid stuff, man.

How did you record this? What program did you use? Did you use external peddles on those solos? How did you achieve that tone?

johndeeregreen
06-25-2009, 06:48 PM
Well done...

I liked the rhythm for the first minute, but it sounded a little 'tinny'... Then you came in with the massive solos and it became clear why you chose to make the intro underwhelming (as far as tone goes).
I was trying for a little almost surf rock tone. Not to that extreme, but lighter.


I definitely hear SRV influence in your rhythm and the overall direction of the tune, but your solos are more Clapton-esque. It seems you are working from a nice middle ground between the two.
Honestly, I did feel that a few different influences were realized on this. The first solo almost sounds BB King esque to me, with a lot of open space and room to work, but that reflects my thoughts a lot after I've listened to it, that a few of the influences in my playing sort of came through a bit.


How did you record this? What program did you use? Did you use external peddles on those solos? How did you achieve that tone?
I used Guitar Pro 5 to do the bass and drums, exported that midi into Adobe Audition 3, then just recorded via a computer microphone. I did the clean portion all at once and then the solos I did in a different tone. No pedals, both of those are just guitar + amp with a few different settings.

Thanks for the listen, and appreciate the comments.

Hawker
06-28-2009, 03:29 AM
K...uploading layla acoustic like I promised...no singing though.

To me the solo is just "ok" and nothing great but hey...I'm no clapton.

http://rapidshare.com/files/249492377/layla_jam_mp3.mp3.html

Everything before the last solo was done in one take...I decided the last solo was too bad and thought I could make it better...make it more of my own. So I deleted the last solo and made a new one.

I used a microphone and audacity and it doesnt sound like sh!t I dont think.

johndeeregreen
06-28-2009, 12:13 PM
This is a tune that I've been playing for years (one of the few truly "acoustic" songs I know), so I think it would be fair to say I have a pretty good grip on it.

Nice little modifications on the first solo. It took a couple times of listening to it before it really felt natural or in time; the area around :25 is a little out of time. Not really a big problem, though, you found the groove again, and it was well played and definitely a nice take on it. Not note for note but unmistakably "Layla." Cool.

Another piece of advice would be to work with a metronome. The tempo slows down noticably from the first solo to the verse, and when you come out of the chorus back to the verses it slows down, too. The part where you go into the chorus also doesn't sound quite right to me.

Last solo also speeds way up, but it grooves nicely. Really, the only things I have negative to say about this all relate to the tempo and timing. Your playing itself sounds pretty good to me. It sounds like you struggle a little bit with the triplet hammer-pull runs, but it's not even really noticable. Cool improvisation, too. Don't be afraid to leave a few rests in there though. Changes the scope and 'feel' of it a bit. Also try to play your improvisations over the backing track if you can, or at least yourself chording; that way you get a feel for what works over what chords and what doesn't.

Cool stuff. I'd really look forward to hearing you play over something like this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWl5TA54uPY&feature=PlayList&p=C53D4F8371724D31&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23) I think it would benefit both your timing, your improvisation, and overall 'fun' you have with the track greatly.

Keep 'em coming. You're not Clapton yet but there was a lot of promise in that recording.:cheers:

Hawker
06-28-2009, 01:41 PM
This is a tune that I've been playing for years (one of the few truly "acoustic" songs I know), so I think it would be fair to say I have a pretty good grip on it.

Nice little modifications on the first solo. It took a couple times of listening to it before it really felt natural or in time; the area around :25 is a little out of time. Not really a big problem, though, you found the groove again, and it was well played and definitely a nice take on it. Not note for note but unmistakably "Layla." Cool.

Another piece of advice would be to work with a metronome. The tempo slows down noticably from the first solo to the verse, and when you come out of the chorus back to the verses it slows down, too. The part where you go into the chorus also doesn't sound quite right to me.

Last solo also speeds way up, but it grooves nicely. Really, the only things I have negative to say about this all relate to the tempo and timing. Your playing itself sounds pretty good to me. It sounds like you struggle a little bit with the triplet hammer-pull runs, but it's not even really noticable. Cool improvisation, too. Don't be afraid to leave a few rests in there though. Changes the scope and 'feel' of it a bit. Also try to play your improvisations over the backing track if you can, or at least yourself chording; that way you get a feel for what works over what chords and what doesn't.

Cool stuff. I'd really look forward to hearing you play over something like this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWl5TA54uPY&feature=PlayList&p=C53D4F8371724D31&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23) I think it would benefit both your timing, your improvisation, and overall 'fun' you have with the track greatly.

Keep 'em coming. You're not Clapton yet but there was a lot of promise in that recording.:cheers:

Thanks. It probably wouldv'e helped playing with the song so I thank you for that backing track. I can probably make it sound a bit better with that in the back ground.

It seems as if I always have a problem with tempo. I never really focus on that but that's just something I'll work on.

I'll work on it with the backing track. Thanks for listening. I'll try and upload some more acoustic by the time summer's over. I just got some elixir light nano webs and they sound pretty nice on my Taylor.

johndeeregreen
06-28-2009, 06:40 PM
If you don't already, try tapping your foot to keep a constant rhythm. It's something I never did the first year or so I played that just became habit.

Good stuff though. Look forward to hearing more. I wrote two new songs this week that I might post, too. We'll see.

dwight20-20
06-28-2009, 07:11 PM
http://tinypic.com/r/qs5pv4/5

babe I'm gonna leave you- led zeppelin

meh. i messed up. and my dog is barking for part of it in the background lol.
i mainly play acoustic and i mainly fingerpick.

edit: turn your volume all the way up, my recorder sucks

Hawker
06-28-2009, 07:15 PM
If you don't already, try tapping your foot to keep a constant rhythm. It's something I never did the first year or so I played that just became habit.

Good stuff though. Look forward to hearing more. I wrote two new songs this week that I might post, too. We'll see.

Damn...I just played layla over the back track and man I was playing WAAAAY too fast.

And the solo I just did during the last part sounded a lot better with the rhythym in the background.

Carbine
06-28-2009, 11:32 PM
Nice stuff in this thread - I love the guitar... it's probably my second love (or third, depending on the time of the year) with basketball being my first, and football being my second when that time of year comes around.

I'm not very good but I love trying to make up my own stuff - ****, most of the time I play my Fender Deluxe Strat I just go wherever my hands take me on the fretboard.... the only times I really play someone elses music is if I'm trying to learn a song to expand my playing ideas and concepts. I've been learning Hendrix' Little Wing and instead of playing it the way Hendrix does (or trying to emulate his stlye note fo note, keyword is trying here) I find myself doing other things with the notes and creating a different feel... just embelishing over the chords he uses and giving it my own twist.

I can pick up my guitar and just lose track of time - before I know it two hours are gone and I was only planning on playing for 30 minutes or so.

Carbine
06-28-2009, 11:40 PM
I forgot to add my question - it's about Hendrix....

I REALLY enjoy his two songs Bold as Love & One Rainy Day.... but I can't find any other songs that have similar vibe to them - I was wondering if anyone here could lead me in the right direction to a few more songs that are similar to those two from Hendrix.

johndeeregreen
06-29-2009, 12:51 AM
I'm not very good but I love trying to make up my own stuff - ****, most of the time I play my Fender Deluxe Strat I just go wherever my hands take me on the fretboard.... the only times I really play someone elses music is if I'm trying to learn a song to expand my playing ideas and concepts. I've been learning Hendrix' Little Wing and instead of playing it the way Hendrix does (or trying to emulate his stlye note fo note, keyword is trying here) I find myself doing other things with the notes and creating a different feel... just embelishing over the chords he uses and giving it my own twist.
Nothing wrong with that. My personal preference, though, is to learn a tune more or less verbatim first, and then try different things. For me, if I want to play like say, SRV, I need to know what kinds of licks and patterns he favors first. A lot of times I'll be listening to a song and NEED to know a lick. The ideas I've copped and put into my playing are endless.


I REALLY enjoy his two songs Bold as Love & One Rainy Day.... but I can't find any other songs that have similar vibe to them - I was wondering if anyone here could lead me in the right direction to a few more songs that are similar to those two from Hendrix.
Not really sure what you mean. For instance, I would liken something like "Little Wing" very closely to "BAL" in terms of the type of playing and song structure Jimi is dealing out. But what I'd mostly say is that if you spend your time looking for things that Jimi does that is like another, you're robbing yourself of the truly revolutionary stuff he does. Pick up or d/l a copy of "Are You Experienced?" and go forth from there. There's no wrong place to start.

johndeeregreen
06-29-2009, 12:53 AM
http://tinypic.com/r/qs5pv4/5

babe I'm gonna leave you- led zeppelin

meh. i messed up. and my dog is barking for part of it in the background lol.
i mainly play acoustic and i mainly fingerpick.

edit: turn your volume all the way up, my recorder sucks
Tell the dog to STFU.

Gonna have to get a real Zep's fan, but it sounded good IMO. No real critique from here. Some parts in the strumming part sounded slightly 'off' but I wouldn't know, really. Good upload.

Carbine
06-29-2009, 01:00 AM
Yeah, Little Wing is in that category as well.... I was just looking for a few other songs by Jimi that were of that same feel and vibe that those three follow.

I've listened to three of his albums in full - Axis, Are You Experiences & Electric Ladyland.... but I can't find any songs that truly have that same feel.

I appreicate and admire pretty much every Hendrix song I ever listen to because I know great musicanship and one of the best to ever do it is in the song, but those songs I mentioned before stand out to me, along with his classics that many already know about.

johndeeregreen
06-29-2009, 01:14 AM
Yeah, Little Wing is in that category as well.... I was just looking for a few other songs by Jimi that were of that same feel and vibe that those three follow.

I've listened to three of his albums in full - Axis, Are You Experiences & Electric Ladyland.... but I can't find any songs that truly have that same feel.

I appreicate and admire pretty much every Hendrix song I ever listen to because I know great musicanship and one of the best to ever do it is in the song, but those songs I mentioned before stand out to me, along with his classics that many already know about.
Hm.

Well, off the top of my head, a few that weren't on those albums that are my faves:

Angel - not on YT so I had to upload it. (http://rapidshare.com/files/249825693/Jimi_Hendrix_-_Angel.mp3.html)
Highway Chile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUHn7BM5fIE)
Izabella (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kozEs-SwDAg)
Machine Gun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVvtIS2YGVI)

Everything from his "Blues" albums, and then of course a myriad of live stuff.

RedBlackAttack
06-29-2009, 05:26 AM
http://tinypic.com/r/qs5pv4/5

babe I'm gonna leave you- led zeppelin

meh. i messed up. and my dog is barking for part of it in the background lol.
i mainly play acoustic and i mainly fingerpick.

edit: turn your volume all the way up, my recorder sucks
Here is my take, coming from someone that has been playing this tune for years and years...

You are hitting all of the right notes, for the most part, and it sounds as though your finger placement throughout is pretty on-point. You did a good job with it and deserve to be applauded for adding to the thread.

I don't want to sound harsh in my criticisms, because god knows I'm no Jimmy Page. But, I do feel like you need to 'let go' a bit. You have the basic chordal structures down, but I think you were a bit too worried about hitting all of the 'right' notes and staying exactly on time instead of just feeling your way through the song and taking it where you wanted it to go instead of the other way around.

You should also work on the strumming parts, because you can incorporate some really cool flamenco style rhythm playing to make it stand out.

The only other thing that I would recommend is that there is a very cool bridge in the song (my favorite part, actually) that was left out, connecting the verse and chorus...

From 2:10 to 2:22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP9xMobANJM) in the original recording.

Nice job, though. Keep working with it and definitely keep posting your stuff. Unlike that heathen JDG, I really love most of Zep's catalog (especially the acoustic stuff). I'll post my own take on this song at some point... There is a really cool outro, too... Which is the case with all of Page's material.

Kudos.

RedBlackAttack
06-29-2009, 05:43 AM
K...uploading layla acoustic like I promised...no singing though.

To me the solo is just "ok" and nothing great but hey...I'm no clapton.

http://rapidshare.com/files/249492377/layla_jam_mp3.mp3.html

Everything before the last solo was done in one take...I decided the last solo was too bad and thought I could make it better...make it more of my own. So I deleted the last solo and made a new one.

I used a microphone and audacity and it doesnt sound like sh!t I dont think.
Good stuff.

To be completely honest, this is one that I just never learned. I don't know... I like a lot of Clapton's stuff and I played quite a few off of his Unplugged album, but Layla was never near the top of my list, so I never tried to learn it note-for-note (although, I do love the piano ending on the original... best part of the song, imo). If there was a major f#ck up in terms of the actual song, I probably wouldn't catch it. JDG would and, since he didn't cite any gaffs in the actual structure of the song, I'll assume that you played it correctly.

I liked your improv at the end most of all. Yeah... There were a few times in which you lost rhythm, but it isn't easy to keep time without a rhythm player or track backing you up. As JDG pointed out, it seemed that, when you would lose the 'feel,' it wasn't long before you had it again. Several times, I caught myself bobbing my head at your improvs and that is always a good thing.

I would second JDG's advice to tap your foot or you might even want to invest in a metronome to improve your rhythm playing. I'm not saying it was bad, because Clapton rhythms aren't easy and you did well with it, but there are easy remedies to cleaning up some of those areas in which the rhythm and lead lost their way.

Nice job. :cheers:

pete's montreux
06-29-2009, 11:26 AM
http://tinypic.com/r/qs5pv4/5

babe I'm gonna leave you- led zeppelin

meh. i messed up. and my dog is barking for part of it in the background lol.
i mainly play acoustic and i mainly fingerpick.

edit: turn your volume all the way up, my recorder sucks

The recorder really sucks, so I couldn't here the lower notes as well as I wanted to. The only real problem I noticed is that you play some parts too slow. I'm not a guitarist by any means, but I guess just keep practicing and the picking will become easier and the song will flow and you can match the speed of some parts.

pete's montreux
06-29-2009, 11:27 AM
Here is my take, coming from someone that has been playing this tune for years and years...

You are hitting all of the right notes, for the most part, and it sounds as though your finger placement throughout is pretty on-point. You did a good job with it and deserve to be applauded for adding to the thread.

I don't want to sound harsh in my criticisms, because god knows I'm no Jimmy Page. But, I do feel like you need to 'let go' a bit. You have the basic chordal structures down, but I think you were a bit too worried about hitting all of the 'right' notes and staying exactly on time instead of just feeling your way through the song and taking it where you wanted it to go instead of the other way around.

You should also work on the strumming parts, because you can incorporate some really cool flamenco style rhythm playing to make it stand out.

The only other thing that I would recommend is that there is a very cool bridge in the song (my favorite part, actually) that was left out, connecting the verse and chorus...

From 2:10 to 2:22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP9xMobANJM) in the original recording.

Nice job, though. Keep working with it and definitely keep posting your stuff. Unlike that heathen JDG, I really love most of Zep's catalog (especially the acoustic stuff). I'll post my own take on this song at some point... There is a really cool outro, too... Which is the case with all of Page's material.

Kudos.

His post was much better than mine. :roll:

dwight20-20
06-29-2009, 03:21 PM
His post was much better than mine. :roll:
haha its okay all feedback is good.

dwight20-20
06-29-2009, 03:24 PM
Here is my take, coming from someone that has been playing this tune for years and years...

You are hitting all of the right notes, for the most part, and it sounds as though your finger placement throughout is pretty on-point. You did a good job with it and deserve to be applauded for adding to the thread.

I don't want to sound harsh in my criticisms, because god knows I'm no Jimmy Page. But, I do feel like you need to 'let go' a bit. You have the basic chordal structures down, but I think you were a bit too worried about hitting all of the 'right' notes and staying exactly on time instead of just feeling your way through the song and taking it where you wanted it to go instead of the other way around.

You should also work on the strumming parts, because you can incorporate some really cool flamenco style rhythm playing to make it stand out.

The only other thing that I would recommend is that there is a very cool bridge in the song (my favorite part, actually) that was left out, connecting the verse and chorus...

From 2:10 to 2:22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP9xMobANJM) in the original recording.

Nice job, though. Keep working with it and definitely keep posting your stuff. Unlike that heathen JDG, I really love most of Zep's catalog (especially the acoustic stuff). I'll post my own take on this song at some point... There is a really cool outro, too... Which is the case with all of Page's material.

Kudos.

thanks for all the feedback. once i get the whole song down i will post a youtube video. ill work on the bridge.

pete's montreux
06-29-2009, 03:49 PM
I chimed in because I've probably listened to Zeppelin more than anyone on this board [i say that with 100% confidence], but in reality, I know nothing about guitars. I just listened to it and noticed one part was slightly slower than the album version, but it was a good version, and coming from me, that is a compliment, trust me.

I hate anyone and anything that tries to imitate the almighty Led Zeppelin.

pete's montreux
06-29-2009, 03:58 PM
I have a request, and I want it done, otherwise heads are gonna be gettin' chopped off.

Zep's For Your Life, particularly the solo.

RedBlackAttack
06-29-2009, 05:44 PM
I have a request, and I want it done, otherwise heads are gonna be gettin' chopped off.

Zep's For Your Life, particularly the solo.
Hmmm... Is that off of Physical Graffiti? I must admit, I am not familiar with that song. I will work on it, though, if it can be done acoustically (which almost anything can).

EDIT: Just saw it is off of Presence, which explains why I am not familiar with it. I'll give it a listen.

Been a little busy at work with traveling and haven't been able to contribute as much lately as I would like. I should have a break coming up in the next week or so that should afford me a little time to learn/re-learn some classics.

boozehound
06-29-2009, 05:50 PM
hmmn, I will have to peruse this thread at my leisure one of these days. downloading hawksters layla currently and I listened to most of the original JDG vids. seems like it has bulked up quite a bit. Must be in the evenings when Im not around.

johndeeregreen
06-29-2009, 06:45 PM
http://rapidshare.com/files/250115324/steve_mixdown.mp3.html

New one. For listening convenience, solos at 2:30 and 4:50. Rest of the song is repetitive. I have 5 verses written for this song, but I tried one cut with me singing and my microphone punched me in the face. So basically, it's a modified blues in A with a couple of pretty substandard improvisations in them.

Carbine
06-29-2009, 08:42 PM
Are those stock pick ups?

johndeeregreen
06-29-2009, 10:58 PM
http://www.gitaristu.ru/_forum/files/noiseless_196.jpg

I guess it would depend what your definition of "stock" is. They come standard on the guitar, yeah, but they aren't stock Fenders, no.

Carbine
06-29-2009, 11:08 PM
I'm surprised those are noiseless, the bite is pretty sweet in them.

I got noiseless pups in mine as well, but they came standard in mine because it's a deluxe of the american strat...standard american strats don't have those pups - I actually don't mind them, they're far better than anything I have ever had before, but they don't have that bite to them from the neck and neck/middle positions that some other american strats have.... it's a trade off in tone with noiseless pups - yeah, they don't hum... but the tone can be better, though it's still great.

I'm actually thinking about putting some Texas Specials in my guitar, or neck custom shop '62... I think SRV had Texas Specials in his strat, though I could be wrong.

johndeeregreen
06-29-2009, 11:17 PM
I'm actually thinking about putting some Texas Specials in my guitar, or neck custom shop '62... I think SRV had Texas Specials in his strat, though I could be wrong.
TBH, I wouldn't put too much stock into getting the pups Stevie had, unless you plan on fitting the SOB with monstrous strings, playing through a gorgeous Twin Reverb, with a Tube Screamer.

His tone is probably a top 5 most emulated but never quite achieved, at least that I can think off of the top of my head.

Carbine
06-29-2009, 11:33 PM
I got my strat with .12's already! I came from an acoustic start playing medium guage strings, so switching over to my first electric with .9's didn't feel right... so I've been playing either .11's or .12's from that point on....

I'll probably never have a Twin Reverb, but a solid state with a sweet clean channel and a bunch of effects pedals will have to do. I don't think that's what holds down the tone of the guitar anyway - pups and the quality of your guitar make the most difference, and like one of my favorite people to watch and learn from, David Tuab (nextlevelguitar.com head instructor) says - the tone is all about what's in your heart and hands!

johndeeregreen
06-29-2009, 11:39 PM
I'll probably never have a Twin Reverb, but a solid state with a sweet clean channel and a bunch of effects pedals will have to do. I don't think that's what holds down the tone of the guitar anyway - pups and the quality of your guitar make the most difference, and like one of my favorite people to watch and learn from, David Tuab (nextlevelguitar.com head instructor) says - the tone is all about what's in your heart and hands!
Which is exactly why very few people can sound like Stevie.

This kid pulls it off though. Sick. Makes me want to quit guitar. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNP0dzAVyjE)

Carbine
06-29-2009, 11:48 PM
What's that technique he's using at right about the 32 second mark? He does it a few other times in the intro as well.... that sounds pretty sick, he has really mastered it.

Who is that guy anyway? Somebody with that much talent should be a popular figure in the music world...

johndeeregreen
06-29-2009, 11:51 PM
Kid's name is Jason Barwick. "The Brew" I guess is the band.

As for the technique, do you mean the rakes? IE he hits a bunch of muted strings on the way down to hitting the actual notes? If so, yes, that was a staple of Stevie's playing and yes, he does have it down pat. It's actually not all that difficult when you get used to it.

RedBlackAttack
06-30-2009, 02:18 AM
I got my strat with .12's already! I came from an acoustic start playing medium guage strings, so switching over to my first electric with .9's didn't feel right... so I've been playing either .11's or .12's from that point on....

I'll probably never have a Twin Reverb, but a solid state with a sweet clean channel and a bunch of effects pedals will have to do. I don't think that's what holds down the tone of the guitar anyway - pups and the quality of your guitar make the most difference, and like one of my favorite people to watch and learn from, David Tuab (nextlevelguitar.com head instructor) says - the tone is all about what's in your heart and hands!
You said it, brother... Or... He said it... Whatever... It is the truth. I've seen guys load themselves down with mountains of effect peddles... Finding that perfect home in between effects/pick-ups/amp/etc. is about 90-percent in accentuating your strengths as a player and 10-percent buying the 'best' equipment or trying to do the things that Stevie or Jimi did (impossible, btw).

Building your tone should be an intensely personal process, imo.

johndeeregreen
07-04-2009, 01:34 PM
Just finished dl'ing and uploading SRV's El Mocambo DVD to my iPod.

Wow.

Some of the licks he's pulling out on TX Flood are absolutely legendary and like nothing I'd ever heard from him before. And yes, only Stevie Ray Vaughan could make "Mary Had a Little Lamb" cool. Man, I want to quit guitar every time I watch him play.

Hawker
07-04-2009, 01:38 PM
Just finished dl'ing and uploading SRV's El Mocambo DVD to my iPod.

Wow.

Some of the licks he's pulling out on TX Flood are absolutely legendary and like nothing I'd ever heard from him before. And yes, only Stevie Ray Vaughan could make "Mary Had a Little Lamb" cool. Man, I want to quit guitar every time I watch him play.

I remember you saying that SRV is "hendrix-lite" and that if you ever wanted to listen to SRV you would just listen to Hendrix.

Bet you think different now?

johndeeregreen
07-04-2009, 01:41 PM
I remember you saying that SRV is "hendrix-lite" and that if you ever wanted to listen to SRV you would just listen to Hendrix.
He still is Hendrix-lite to me in many, many respects. Hendrix was an original. Stevie, all the things that he was, was not. He was the offspring of Hendrix and a myriad of other powerful things and he was one of the best players we've ever seen, but he wasn't Jimi (nobody is).

I still think the same thing as when I said that, but the difference is how much I've been able to get past that sort of mindblock and just enjoy Stevie, and all the great things he can do with a guitar, and the things he does in his playing that are all his own.

If that makes any sense.

Hawker
07-04-2009, 05:59 PM
Someone gave you a 2 star on your AC/DC song so I gave you a 5.

johndeeregreen
07-04-2009, 06:11 PM
Someone gave you a 2 star on your AC/DC song so I gave you a 5.
Haha, thanks. I really don't care about the ratings. If someone rates it without giving any feedback it's usually safe to assume they a) couldn't do any better or b) don't have a clue what's really going on. You'd be truly amazed how many internet virtuosos there are out there who can pick apart anyone's playing despite the fact that they are in their basement all day struggling to learn House of the Rising Sun.:oldlol:

Carbine
08-01-2009, 11:55 PM
I found myself going through an old SRV CD of mine and came across this gem that I forgot about. This is a masterpiece, IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYZxZ8N3vUk

johndeeregreen
08-01-2009, 11:59 PM
I was playing that in the guitar store the other day when I was trying out a Twin Reverb. Sounded frigging phenomenal.

Although, I prefer his El Mocambo performance above all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YIHvK5WN7I

Still makes me laugh that he almost got his ass booed off stage the first time he was at Montreux.

RidonKs
11-09-2009, 11:21 PM
RBA's cover of Over the Hills and Far Away (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7KR7PI5V)
nifty - i missed this the first time around. i've been trying to learn 'over the hills' for the past few months (off and on of course), and... well, i'm getting better. i haven't even gotten past the first general riff. i've got the notes down, but its still very very choppy. hell, even this cover sounded slightly choppy, at certain points (although still a trillion times past the point i'm at).

i'm having the most trouble with the pulls offs. especially when you've got your index and ring fingers each on the same string, index on the 4th and ring on the 2nd - and then you have to hit that string, then pull off the 4th fret, and then pull off the 2nd fret. its killing me trying to get that down. i've also got the 'wish you were here' solo and strumming down pat, but theres a certain part that has the same movement in there - impossible for me to get down.

i love the live versions of this song, where jimmy switches the order a little bit - i think it sounds way better. one of the best i've heard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtszz9FKc0o).

i'm also getting close to nailing rocky raccoon. although when i say nailing, i don't mean good enough to feel confident in uploading my version to this thread. lol


edit: hm, i just picked up the guitar and tried 'over the hills' for the first time in a week or two, and it came out much better. with that particular part i was having trouble with anymore. it still comes out like **** every once in a while, but for the most part it sounds okay.

RedBlackAttack
11-10-2009, 12:08 AM
nifty - i missed this the first time around. i've been trying to learn 'over the hills' for the past few months (off and on of course), and... well, i'm getting better. i haven't even gotten past the first general riff. i've got the notes down, but its still very very choppy. hell, even this cover sounded slightly choppy, at certain points (although still a trillion times past the point i'm at).

The Over the Hills and Far Away that I uploaded on here was actually pretty sh!tty compared to the way that I usually play it. I just sort of put it together on the run when JDG requested it. I hadn't played it in a long, long time and my guitar needed a string change very badly.

To be honest, I momentarily forgot the chord progression on the verse. :oldlol: I didn't feel like going through the whole thing again, so I just uploaded what I had.

I may put up a better effort if I get some time.


i'm having the most trouble with the pulls offs. especially when you've got your index and ring fingers each on the same string, index on the 4th and ring on the 2nd - and then you have to hit that string, then pull off the 4th fret, and then pull off the 2nd fret. its killing me trying to get that down. i've also got the 'wish you were here' solo and strumming down pat, but theres a certain part that has the same movement in there - impossible for me to get down.

That is just one of those roadblocks that you will run into in the course of improving as a player. The pull-offs and hammer-ons take a lot of practice to get down. Once you get it, though, the songs will sound so much better.

On that intro part of Over the Hills and Far Away that you are talking about, you are really only supposed to hit the G string one time. I had a tough time with that when I was a younger player. I would hit it twice and hammer-on twice. I finally figured it out that you are supposed to do all four hammer-ons with one pluck.

The same goes for Wish You Were Hear, as you rightly pointed out. Gilmour tends to be a little 'easier,' though, because he has that very deliberate (slower) style of solos, as opposed to Jimmy, which is usually a flurry of notes thrown at you at once.

All I can say is to keep working with it and keep a regular practice schedule. It is interesting that you said that you put the guitar down for a while and then you played it better when you went back to it after some time. I've always found that periods of not playing can be good, especially if you are working on a very difficult technique.

There is something about that time away from the instrument that helps cement what you want to do in your mind. That has always worked well for me.


i love the live versions of this song, where jimmy switches the order a little bit - i think it sounds way better. one of the best i've heard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtszz9FKc0o).

Wow. That was sick. I love the lick he throws in at :35. Excellent... I'm going to figure it out with that in there.



i'm also getting close to nailing rocky raccoon. although when i say nailing, i don't mean good enough to feel confident in uploading my version to this thread. lol

Come on, Donks. This is all in good fun. Don't be embarrassed to post stuff. Keep in mind that those of us that have been playing for a long time have been through the same struggles that you are encountering.

It isn't like we just sat down with a guitar and immediately played well. It took a lot of practice... At least for me (don't want to speak for JDG). I'd like to hear what you've got.

Any requests? You like the Rain Song? I was thinking about throwing together my version of that one.

RidonKs
11-10-2009, 12:16 AM
'the rain song' happens to be among my favourite zeppelin songs - if it isn't my absolute favourite. i'm not sure i could name a song i like better right now. maybe 'since ive been loving you'.

i don't actually have a mic, but if i did - i suppose i might put up my version of 'wish you were here'. haha, strained singing and all. i've been meaning to get a mic, so maybe i'll put it on my priority list.


On that intro part of Over the Hills and Far Away that you are talking about, you are really only supposed to hit the G string one time. I had a tough time with that when I was a younger player. I would hit it twice and hammer-on twice. I finally figured it out that you are supposed to do all four hammer-ons with one pluck.
wait, one stroke? i've been hitting the third string once open, then hit it again with my finger on the fourth fret, and then do the two pull offs before ending on an open 5th. so instead of hitting it twice, you actually just hammer on the second note? bleh, i just tried that and can barely get a peep out of the guitar. all in time i suppose. lol



edit: man, getting that last chord slide to sound good is impossible. my hands need to be three times bigger. lol

Abd El-Krim
11-10-2009, 12:37 AM
I remember half a decade ago I used to love Over the Hills. That and Baby I'm Gonna Leave You were my favorite Zep acoustic tunes to play.

For some reason I had forgotten those songs existed until now, think I'll go play them now. This thread = good.

RedBlackAttack
11-10-2009, 12:47 AM
'the rain song' happens to be among my favourite zeppelin songs - if it isn't my absolute favourite. i'm not sure i could name a song i like better right now. maybe 'since ive been loving you'.

Yeah... When I was first learning how to play, my goal was to learn the Rain Song. It is such a beautifully constructed rhythm... And the outro is on another level.

I'll put it up when I get a minute.


wait, one stroke? i've been hitting the third string once open, then hit it again with my finger on the fourth fret, and then do the two pull offs before ending on an open 5th. so instead of hitting it twice, you actually just hammer on the second note? bleh, i just tried that and can barely get a peep out of the guitar. all in time i suppose. lol

On the first run, you pluck the G open and hammer-on and pull-off of the 2nd fret. On that second part, you hammer-on and pull-off of the second fret with one pluck, hit the D in the fourth fret, hit the G open then hit the G with your finger on the fourth fret and pull-off of the 4th, 2nd and then open.

So... You hit it once on the first part and twice on the second part.

(if that makes sense to you)

RidonKs
11-10-2009, 12:51 AM
Yeah... On the first run, you pluck the G open and hammer-on and pull-off of the 2nd fret. On that second part, you hammer-on and pull-off of the second fret with one pluck, hit the D in the fourth fret, hit the G open then hit the G with your finger on the fourth fret and pull-off of the 4th, 2nd and then open.
okay, this is what i was doing. what i just posted was only in reference to the bold - i thought you meant that, in that last bolded bit, i was supposed to only pluck that g note once - then hammer on, pull off the 4th, pull of the 2nd, and then open. but there are two plucks there, one open and then one on the 4th.

RedBlackAttack
11-10-2009, 12:59 AM
okay, this is what i was doing. what i just posted was only in reference to the bold - i thought you meant that, in that last bolded bit, i was supposed to only pluck that g note once - then hammer on, pull off the 4th, pull of the 2nd, and then open. but there are two plucks there, one open and then one on the 4th.
Correct.

johndeeregreen
11-10-2009, 01:04 AM
I'm currently working on this fantastically crafted Knopfler gem. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GWY0ahBM8c). What a beautiful tune...wow.

Def. put some stuff up when you get a chance RBA, I haven't been playing much...

RedBlackAttack
11-10-2009, 01:17 AM
I'm currently working on this fantastically crafted Knopfler gem. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GWY0ahBM8c). What a beautiful tune...wow.
Brilliant. As we've discussed before, I'm a huge Knopfler fan. He is one of the most underrated guitarists of his generation.

That album (Making Movies) is terrific all the way through. Romeo and Juliet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpiq-KsKns&feature=related) is certainly one of my all-time favorite tunes. I'm looking forward to hearing your interpretation of Tunnel of Love.

Excellent choice.


Def. put some stuff up when you get a chance RBA, I haven't been playing much...

I'm going to post something soon. I haven't been playing much lately, either. Work has heated up and I haven't had a lot of free time.

I haven't seen you on here much lately. Did you take an ISH break for a while or something? What's up?

johndeeregreen
11-25-2009, 03:45 PM
Heard Gary Moore do this on my iPod last night, thought he did a wonderful job, but Jeff Healey destroys him here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9uXyr_kN4U

boozehound
11-25-2009, 03:56 PM
Heard Gary Moore do this on my iPod last night, thought he did a wonderful job, but Jeff Healey destroys him here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9uXyr_kN4U
nice. always liked healey (his version of john hiatt's angel eyes is probably the best version). saw him once about a decade and a half ago. that blind dude can wail

johndeeregreen
11-25-2009, 04:05 PM
nice. always liked healey (his version of john hiatt's angel eyes is probably the best version). saw him once about a decade and a half ago. that blind dude can wail
Listening to Healey play blues music always reminds me of a 'cleaned-up', less impulsive version of Stevie Ray Vaughan.

In fact, the first comment on this video sums it up nicely - "Jeff wiped the floor with him". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqU9RZqvFKY)

Vocally though, while he's great, he lacks Stevie's intensity.

Hawker
11-25-2009, 04:42 PM
How the hell can you play guitar when you're blind?

Goddamn.

BallPhunk
11-25-2009, 07:57 PM
I found myself going through an old SRV CD of mine and came across this gem that I forgot about. This is a masterpiece, IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYZxZ8N3vUk


BRAVO!!!!! Well freakin done. :cheers: Whenever I hear an anti-SRV rant and talk about his repetitiveness, I always thing of this clip. Didn't know it was on youtube.

If you get the blues at all, you'll understand this clip and be blown away by it. He's free-form riffing in much of it, and it shows what he's got.

BTW - If this is the clip I think it is (I'll have to look more closely later) it's from a live in Japan laserdisc released long ago.

johndeeregreen
11-25-2009, 09:39 PM
How the hell can you play guitar when you're blind?

Goddamn.
When you think about it, the way he plays really isn't mind blowing. It all depends on how you initially learn it. Sure, for anyone who plays guitar the way it's meant to be played, it'd be tough to lay it on your lap and do it, but if you learn it like that, it probably doesn't make a big difference. Also, I can play a lot of pieces without looking at the fretboard once. It's not outlandish to think that it doesn't bother a guy who obviously a) has a ridiculous gift for feel, touch, and sound and b) has been practicing it like that for 25 years.

Not taking anything away from Jeff, he's filthy, just putting some perspective on it.

And 'Lenny' is the quintessential track to post from Vaughan any time you're talking about his creativity, soul, and probably his technical ability as well.

johndeeregreen
11-27-2009, 06:04 PM
Got a great deal on an Ibanez TS-9 Tube Screamer today in preparation for the big Fender tube purchase. Tried it on a Twin at the shop. Gorgeous sound.

RedBlackAttack
11-27-2009, 06:15 PM
Got a great deal on an Ibanez TS-9 Tube Screamer today in preparation for the big Fender tube purchase. Tried it on a Twin at the shop. Gorgeous sound.
Awesome. I've used one a few times. You can get some nice sounding distortion out of TS-9s.

I'm thinking about treating myself to a new amp for Christmas. I'm not sure which way to go, though. Any suggestions?

johndeeregreen
11-27-2009, 06:23 PM
Awesome. I've used one a few times. You can get some nice sounding distortion out of TS-9s.

I'm thinking about treating myself to a new amp for Christmas. I'm not sure which way to go, though. Any suggestions?
I'm not really the guy to be asking. Wish I could help, but the truth is I've never been able to allocate enough money to putting towards an actual good amplifier. I've been playing on sh*t ones my entire life. Every time I put my mind to it and am ready to pull the trigger, something invariably happens. I'm going with some sort of Fender tube, but outside of that it's just going to be trial and error. Go to the store with my guitar and play a few. I've played on Twins, Blues Junior, and a number of different Fender tubes before and they are really good sounding amps, for what I want to do, anyway.

Hawker
01-04-2010, 04:09 AM
bump for shaqattack

johndeeregreen
01-08-2010, 03:25 AM
Here's something I slapped together today.

The problem with this song is that all the best guitarists of all time have done it, therefore when I play it I feel like I'm embarassing myself. Whatever, this is just noodling around with the backing track, mixing in some classic, some new, and some of my own touches on this tune. I'm sober, which is why most of the improv is meh. Try to ignore that f*cking hum.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/70941729e1360ce6/

Abd El-Krim
01-08-2010, 10:38 AM
Here's something I slapped together today.

The problem with this song is that all the best guitarists of all time have done it, therefore when I play it I feel like I'm embarassing myself. Whatever, this is just noodling around with the backing track, mixing in some classic, some new, and some of my own touches on this tune. I'm sober, which is why most of the improv is meh. Try to ignore that f*cking hum.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/70941729e1360ce6/

Why do you think being sober is a problem for improvising? It may not be as easy to find the zone, but once you do find it you're going to perform much better in it than if you were buzzed or otherwise impaired. Probably won't be as much fun, though.

I liked the song btw. Nice clean tone.

Abd El-Krim
01-08-2010, 10:40 AM
Awesome. I've used one a few times. You can get some nice sounding distortion out of TS-9s.

I'm thinking about treating myself to a new amp for Christmas. I'm not sure which way to go, though. Any suggestions?

What's your price range / style?

johndeeregreen
01-08-2010, 11:46 AM
Why do you think being sober is a problem for improvising? It may not be as easy to find the zone, but once you do find it you're going to perform much better in it than if you were buzzed or otherwise impaired. Probably won't be as much fun, though.
When I'm stone sober I think too much instead of just playing. I'm not talking getting sh*tfaced drunk (although I've performed in that state before too), but a solid 7-8 beer buzz where you're just focused but also looser, more aggressive, more 'into' it.

Just for me anyway.

johndeeregreen
01-13-2010, 03:35 AM
Put together another one today. Stones - Time is On My Side. Had to leave out the intro becuase the timing on it in the BT is royally f*cked. If I can find more bt's with vox I'm going to put together a cover album and toss it in my truck, give it to friends, w/e.

Not a ton of stuff in here, but it's a great tune anyway.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/711442536a51af85/

RedBlackAttack
01-13-2010, 03:41 AM
Here's something I slapped together today.

The problem with this song is that all the best guitarists of all time have done it, therefore when I play it I feel like I'm embarassing myself. Whatever, this is just noodling around with the backing track, mixing in some classic, some new, and some of my own touches on this tune. I'm sober, which is why most of the improv is meh. Try to ignore that f*cking hum.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/70941729e1360ce6/
Finally got around to giving this a listen and I thought you did a fine job of playing a song that, as you noted, is very difficult to shine with after hearing Jimi and SRV mastering it. However, I thought you did a very nice job of letting the solos build by laying back on the calmer parts and then letting loose when the time came. Your tone is cleaner than either Jimi or SRV, obviously... I didn't hear much distortion in there, which helps to make the song 'yours' and not just a cover of something that someone else has already done.

Also, you basically nailed the SRV-style intro, which isn't easy. Not that the chordal structures are anything out of this world, but to hit all of the notes and hit it with perfect timing isn't easy.

Your Little Wing pretty much sh!ts all over mine, but I have admittedly not spent much time with this one. Probably because of the points you have already brought up... I would just make myself feel worthless when comparing myself to the guys that have mastered it (I actually prefer Jimi's intro, though, which is slightly different).

One last thing... You did your own improvisation while leaving in some key runs and notes put in place by the masters. Nice job of mixing in your own stuff, yet staying true to the tune.

Now... What the h#ll software are you using and how do I get it? The metronome at the beginning made me chuckle a bit, but the drums and bass were basically on-point throughout.... And the quality of the recording was excellent.

johndeeregreen
01-13-2010, 03:45 AM
Now... What the h#ll software are you using and how do I get it? The metronome at the beginning made me chuckle a bit, but the drums and bass were basically on-point throughout.... And the quality of the recording was excellent.
Well, for the backing track? I just download 'em. However, right now I'm running my guitar directly into the USB port. It's a USB cable with a 1/4 inch jack on the other end. I'm running a program called Fender Amplitube that sims a number of classic Fender amps and sounds, and gives you an interactive interface to literally tweak every knob on the amp. I'm getting some really, really nice sounds out of it. I ended up with the interface, this program, and RiffWorks (a recording/tweaking program) for $125.

Here's a screenie:

http://i46.tinypic.com/34iqscp.jpg

Thanks for the listen!


Also, you basically nailed the SRV-style intro, which isn't easy. Not that the chordal structures are anything out of this world, but to hit all of the notes and hit it with perfect timing isn't easy.

I find the right hand work is absolutely essential to getting that SRV "sound", not that I'm anywhere close to accomplishing that.

RedBlackAttack
01-13-2010, 04:12 AM
^^^Very interesting.

Looks like it is potentially hours (days? years?) of fun. I used to have a program called Cakewalk Guitar Pro that seems a bit similar, but that was years ago and I'm sure the technology has advanced quite a bit since then. I even had the connector into my soundcard, though.

A buddy of mine who I used to be in a band with was living in Japan and we were collaborating with it. But, he got married and the software became a bit outdated, so I just sort of let it go.

You are enticing me to jump back into the technological advancements that are being made.

And, yeah... I've found that the right hand is really the key. A lot of people like to focus on how fast you are moving your left hand, but the real magic that separate the men from the boys is in the strumming hand.

johndeeregreen
01-13-2010, 03:39 PM
You are enticing me to jump back into the technological advancements that are being made.
I honestly didn't even know stuff like this existed.:oldlol: How many electrics do you own? Also check out this site for good stuff:

http://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/


And, yeah... I've found that the right hand is really the key. A lot of people like to focus on how fast you are moving your left hand, but the real magic that separate the men from the boys is in the strumming hand.
Yeah, and my picking isn't my strongest point. That guy that posted his Mr. Crowley is lightyears ahead of me in terms of picking accuracy, but the way you can accent and shape notes from your right hand is really something I like to do.

ShaqAttack3234
04-17-2010, 01:38 AM
Thought I'd take a crack at the guitar solo in Comfortably Numb, always been one of my favorites and something different from the heavy metal stuff I usually play. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4VON5KY3

Thanks for the compliment, JDG. I might as well post that link in this thread rather than my own since this is the official music thread. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=10E7PKMI

Still planning on re-recording that one and doing the second solo since I can play it cleaner npw, but since I'm in the process of writing and recording original music(just demos), I haven't found the time yet.

johndeeregreen
04-17-2010, 08:20 AM
Thought I'd take a crack at the guitar solo in Comfortably Numb, always been one of my favorites and something different from the heavy metal stuff I usually play. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4VON5KY3
You played that tune like a metal guitarist (no offense meant). By that I mean that you were ahead of the beat a few times throughout. There's nothing overly technical about this solo so there's no reason to make it that way, and it felt like you were really rushing into some of the sixteenth-note passages.

Another reason I say that is because your accuracy sounds pretty spot on, but I really don't get much of a 'feel' from it, which is often a symptom of guys who have fantastic hand speed. It's a fine recording, but I'd recommend going back over it, lay back, and listen to some of the right and left hand accentuations Gilmour throws in there to make it sound like the real deal.

Tough solo to cop, for a number of reasons. It's fine, but I don't think it's the best playing you have in you.

Abd El-Krim
04-17-2010, 09:46 PM
Yeah definitely a metalhead there. The best thing to do before playing a Gilmour solo, other than getting your effects right, is to get your mind right. Put the backing track on repeat for about 10 minutes, then record yourself. You can do a convincing Gilmour without actually hitting the same notes, so long as the mood is there.

ShaqAttack3234
04-19-2010, 02:27 PM
Thanks for the feedback and constructive criticism. I don't know, it doesn't sound bad to me. Unlike Mr. Crowley, I wasn't trying to play this as close to the album version, particularly since my tone is a lot different, but I guess I'll get the feel down better the more I play that type of style.

Regarding effects, yeah, that's something I need to work on. I very rarely play with any at all, in fact, I recorded this solo dry and put a little delay on after, that's about it.

QUIZZLE
04-19-2010, 02:31 PM
JDG, what year's that Strat?

Looks like Clapton's model..

johndeeregreen
04-19-2010, 03:33 PM
JDG, what year's that Strat?

Looks like Clapton's model..
It is a Clapton. I bought it nearly-new off Ebay with the understanding that it was an '04.

RedBlackAttack
06-12-2010, 04:35 AM
Just to revive this fantastic thread so that it doesn't fall by the wayside, this is a semi-bump with a question for all of you guitar-heads.

I've been playing my electric much more often in the past couple of months, so this will be solo-related...

What is your go-to solo run? We all have them... When you are stalled momentarily and you need to get by going again, what do you go to?

Here is mine (simple blues lick and of course fret position will be wholly dependent on what key the jam is in)...

(high to low)

e -----12--------------------------------------------------- -|
b -------14----------------------15--------------------------|
g -14B----12B----------14B----14----------------------------|
d -----------14---12B---------------12-(hammer on)-14~~~--|
a ------------------------------------------------------------|
E ------------------------------------------------------------|

Incredibly simple, but very effective in getting me back going again.

Now, what is your go-to solo run?

pete's montreux
06-20-2010, 12:01 PM
I seriously don't understand why everyone in this thread aren't enormous Rory Gallagher fans. I'm not even sure if I think SRV is better anymore. :confusedshrug:

Here's him tearing Off the Handle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qMil0nAFE&feature=related) up in 1979. Love his tone.

johndeeregreen
07-18-2010, 01:01 AM
Bumpity bump.

Purchased a Fender Blues Jr. amp today. Man, those tubes are WARM. Hooked up the Tube Screamer to it and it breaks up really nice. Absolutely gorgeous sound. Bought the tweed limited edition for $580. Great purchase, love it.

johndeeregreen
07-18-2010, 01:05 AM
Now, what is your go-to solo run?

-----------12-12------------------------------------
--------12----12^15^12-14-12-----12---------------
-14b16-------------------14-12-14-12^14^12--------
----------------------------------------------12^14-
-------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------

I have many, but this comes immediately to mind. Being a SRV disciple has put me on to double stops at any opportunity.

Abd El-Krim
07-18-2010, 09:12 AM
Bumpity bump.

Purchased a Fender Blues Jr. amp today. Man, those tubes are WARM. Hooked up the Tube Screamer to it and it breaks up really nice. Absolutely gorgeous sound. Bought the tweed limited edition for $580. Great purchase, love it.

I have a Blues Jr and love it. With the screamer and a strat it's got great tone, and also really easy to move around. I do wish I could get some regular distortion out of it, hard to find a pedal that doesn't sound muddy if you want to use it for other styles.

Abd El-Krim
06-22-2011, 07:05 PM
(bump)

Jammed with some old friends a few days ago and had a great time playing some blues standards. For the past few years I've just been aimlessly strumming acoustic indie rock bullshit but I'm trying to force myself back into some real playing. When I think about the type of things I used to be able to play and now can't it's kind of depressing.

So I'm leaning towards purchasing a Gibson LP Studio Deluxe to motivate me. GC by me is willing to part with one I've played a few times for $1300. I have the money but am stalling on the purchase for some reason, somebody push me. Also, any LP owners have amp suggestions?

johndeeregreen
03-24-2012, 12:25 AM
Finally got around to covering one of my favorite covers of all time, Clapton's rendition of 'Little Wing' at MSG with Sheryl Crow and Dave Sanborn. Audio quality is lacking obviously, my sister rec'd it with an iPhone, and it's definitely a little rough in places, but...here it is.

My cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsI5SV-tuFY&context=C458a83aADvjVQa1PpcFOlTNQoDZkVV_d-hbi-8hjyYAJhgtWGAa8=)

Original video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWQGG1HtOlk)

johndeeregreen
03-26-2012, 12:19 AM
Also bought this on the weekend. Have been listening to tons of classic country music and just love the sound of a lapsteel. Ordered a Don Helms (lapsteel guitarist in Hank Williams' legendary Driftin' Cowboys band) songbook that I look forward to receiving as well. I don't suppose any of ISH's other guitarists have tried their hand at lapsteel?

http://www.americanmusical.com/ItemImages/Large/p30339.jpg

QUIZZLE
03-26-2012, 05:36 PM
Nice tremolo in the video. Good cover over all I thought. My amp settings would have been a little different though but it's personal preference.

Clapton is the man. Love 'Old Love' at Hyde Park especially... so nasty.

johndeeregreen
03-26-2012, 05:42 PM
Nice tremolo in the video. Good cover over all I thought. My amp settings would have been a little different though but it's personal preference.

Clapton is the man. Love 'Old Love' at Hyde Park especially... so nasty.
Thanks for the watch. I agree with you fully about the tone - it got really, really trebly and overtly Strat-ty after it was recorded on the iPhone, it is really much fuller IRL.

Even so, I wish I could get a heartier tone out of that guitar. I focused so much on getting a raw, sawtooth SRV tone (Strat, Blues Jr, tube screamer) that it is tough to get warm, smooth tones out of it.

Thanks again for the view.

QUIZZLE
04-01-2012, 02:09 AM
A little random riff/chordal session with my buddies guitar... Definitely could be parts of my songs in the future. let me know what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtTMeVx7u1w&context=C4b518b0ADvjVQa1PpcFMMbVd0VetPLuS05pRxNoV6 I9r-nNbhecA=

p.s. i'm not actually left-handed. Forgot to flip it.

johndeeregreen
10-31-2013, 08:32 PM
Brad Paisley - Ticks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7hvbALb9t0)