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Luigi
06-02-2009, 07:23 PM
Also better than
Rudy Fernandez
Morris Almond
Dwight Howard
JR Smith
Amare Stoudemire
Blake Griffin
Michael Beasley
Deron Williams
Andre Iguodala
Greg Oden

:eek:

Rockets(T-mac)
06-02-2009, 07:29 PM
Shaq is a freak athlete.

Toizumi
06-02-2009, 07:32 PM
Dwight Howard
JR Smith
Amare Stoudemire
Andre Iguodala

:eek:

awesome. shaq got up there but I wouldnt have thought that he got up higher than the guys posted above. Do you have a link? these are draft measurements right?

Jinxed
06-02-2009, 07:38 PM
Max vert of 36 inches for Shaq. Strong legs.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/measurements.php?year=All&sort2=ASC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=14

Luigi
06-02-2009, 07:39 PM
Max vert of 36 inches for Shaq. Strong legs.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/measurements.php?year=All&sort2=ASC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=14

Yup. That's the source I used. Pretty revealing.

Zak
06-02-2009, 08:03 PM
Also better than
Rudy Fernandez
Morris Almond
Dwight Howard
JR Smith
Amare Stoudemire
Blake Griffin
Michael Beasley
Deron Williams
Andre Iguodala
Greg Oden

:eek:

all of these proffesional basketball players, some of them known for being great dunkers (iggy, rudy fernandez, jr smith) have a 36 inch vert or less, but when a thread was posted asking posters what their verts i couldn't count the people who said 35-40.
and max verts allow running starts, correct?


loool

Luigi
06-02-2009, 08:09 PM
all of these proffesional basketball players, some of them known for being great dunkers (iggy, rudy fernandez, jr smith) have a 36 inch vert or less, but when a thread was posted asking posters what their verts i couldn't count the people who said 35-40.
and max verts allow running starts, correct?


loool

Isn't it the best. :lol

miniharrison37
06-02-2009, 08:22 PM
Shaq's a beast. :rockon:

East River Livn'
06-02-2009, 09:39 PM
Only LeBron comes close to matching Shaq as a freak physical specimen. 285-295lbs with a 35+ vert is insanity. I am not even sure LeBron at 270 can get up that high at his current weight. Wasn't Bynum supposed to have a 35" vert too? :lol He'd be lucky is he gets up 12" from what it looks like now. :lol

GiveItToBurrito
06-02-2009, 09:44 PM
all of these proffesional basketball players, some of them known for being great dunkers (iggy, rudy fernandez, jr smith) have a 36 inch vert or less, but when a thread was posted asking posters what their verts i couldn't count the people who said 35-40.
and max verts allow running starts, correct?


loool

That thread was hilarious. So much so that I even bookmarked it: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26961 Really, I just like the idea of imagining all of these people going through the process of measuring it; it just reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite and the guy throwing the steak for some reason.

Anyways, yeah, Shaq's vert is impressive, and it's crazy how high up he could get the ball. Honestly, I have a hard time believing that he got up higher than some of these guys, especially since he was known strictly as a power dunker when he came in the league, but I guess the numbers don't lie.

invisiblehoops
06-02-2009, 10:18 PM
That thread was hilarious. So much so that I even bookmarked it: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26961 Really, I just like the idea of imagining all of these people going through the process of measuring it; it just reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite and the guy throwing the steak for some reason.

Anyways, yeah, Shaq's vert is impressive, and it's crazy how high up he could get the ball. Honestly, I have a hard time believing that he got up higher than some of these guys, especially since he was known strictly as a power dunker when he came in the league, but I guess the numbers don't lie.

Max vert does not tell the whole story. Obviously a guy of shaq's size plays as many minutes as him would not want to jump as high as they can everytime, it would drain their stamina too quickly. Whereas a a bench player like JR smith who is the size of an average shooting guard can afford to jump as high as they possibly can everytime.

You also have to consider how quickly they get off the ground, which is a big part of what allows certain players to play above the rim as someone already mentioned before.

Kingwillball
06-02-2009, 10:18 PM
I was surprised Dwight howard ONLY had a 35" Vertical. U watch him in games and on those 12 foot rims and if U didn't know it U would think he had a 40" vert at 6"10.

Vince Carter had a 43" Vert at 6"7 sick.. Derrick Rose with a 40" also impressive.

Doesn't List Lebron but at 6"8 U would have to think he has a 37 or 38 inch Vert at least.

hotsizzle
06-02-2009, 10:19 PM
Not surprised. Shaq is the biggest freak of nature this league has ever seen. Lebron close second.

VCMVP1551
06-02-2009, 10:43 PM
I was surprised Dwight howard ONLY had a 35" Vertical. U watch him in games and on those 12 foot rims and if U didn't know it U would think he had a 40" vert at 6"10.
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Well Dwight's standing reach is 9'3.5" and he showed in the 2007 dunk contest that he can touch as high as 12'6". That means that Howard's max vert is atleast 38.5". More likely he can touch a bit higher since he also had to concentrate on putting the sticker up while dunking the ball. Dwight's vertical very well could be 40".

VCMVP1551
06-02-2009, 11:06 PM
dwight is 6'10 at best... shaq was 7'1

Shaq also already weighed 303 lbs. at the pre-draft camp. He was still an athletic freak in his prime at 340. Hell during, the last year of the 3peat he was still probably the most athletic center and he weighed over 380. :wtf:

giantgonzolez
06-03-2009, 12:35 AM
You're a LIAR, Shaq's highest touch was a mere 12'4" even with his incredible 9'8" standing reach. Even a midget like 6'10" Olajuwon had a 12"6" highest touch. Ralph Sampson had a 12'11" highest touch from a standing jump.
I have NEVER EVER seen any evidence that Shaq was better than a B level jumper for a center and a C+ level jumper overall as a basketball player.

Shaq was as good a leaper as Odom in his prime BIG FRIGGIN' DEAL.
Brock Lesnar @ 301lbs had a much higher vertical leap and a FAR FAR better 40 time than Shaq ever did @ 301lbs.


Vince Carter 43" 8'11" 12'6"
Karl Malone 28" 9'2" 11'6"
Shaq 32" 9'8" 12'4"
Kobe Bryant 38" 8'10" 12'0"
Steve Francis 43" 8'5" 12'3"
Antonio McDyess 42" - -
Allen Iverson 41" - -
Shawn Kemp 40" (Seattle) - -
Rex Chapmann 39" - -
Desmond Mason 38" - -
Shaquille Oneal 32" - -
Lamar Odom 32" - -
Paul Pierce 38"
Shawn Marion 41"
Carmelo Anthony 41"
Ricky Davis 42"
Tracy McGrady 42"
Nate Robinson 43"
Jason Richardson 46"
James White 46"
Harold Miner 44"
Steve Francis 43"
LeBron James 44"
Fred Jones 42"

Legends:
Michael Jordan 48" (Chicago) 8'10" 12'5"
Dominique Wilkins 42" 9'0" 12'6"
Larry Bird 28" 9'1" 11'5"
Dr. J 41" 8'11" 12'4"
Spudd Webb 46" 7'4" 11'2"
Daryl Dawkins 34" 9'4" 12'2"
Dee Brown 44" - -
Harold Miner 44" - -
Julius Erving 43" - -
Larry Nance 40" - -
Ralph Sampson 36" - -
Karl Malone 28"
Magic Johnson 30" - -
Shawn Kemp 40"

Other High Vertical Leaps (Non-NBA)
Kadour Ziani (5'10)
Highest Vertical Leaper from Slamnation 60"
World Record Vertical Leap
Michael Wilson (Globetrotters) 51" - -
Reggie Thompson (Jumpsoles) 56" - -
Ronnie Fields (CBA) 48" - -
Melvin Levett 45" - -
l Pierce Henry Beckering 45"

NFL
Randy Moss 51" (53" running)
- -
Jevon Kearse 265 lbs 40" - -

NCAA
Brandon Dean 39" -

giantgonzolez
06-03-2009, 12:47 AM
Shaq also already weighed 303 lbs. at the pre-draft camp. He was still an athletic freak in his prime at 340. Hell during, the last year of the 3peat he was still probably the most athletic center and he weighed over 380. :wtf:

380? I don't know what you're smoking, but it's very dangerous stuff and must have damaged your brain cells. Shaq's closer to 280 than 380.
The NBA LIES about the heights and weights of most players.

This is 7'1" 380?
http://smartsexyrichcrazy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/shaq-shaunie-premiere.jpg



Shaq weighs only 12lbs less than World Class Powerlifter Mark Henry????
Henry is listed @ 6'1" 392lbs by WWE
http://youbeenblinded.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/shaq-worlds-strongest-man.jpg






How do you explain that this and this is 7'3 387? as a teenager
http://www.daliprana.com/Exclusive%20Dalip%20Photos/Dalip12.jpg
http://www.zeenews.com/Img/2008/5/14/khali_big_pic_2.jpg



How do you explain that this is 7'3" 430lbs?
http://i4.tinypic.com/110lspi.jpg

Shaq's a skinny girlyman. Stop pretending like he's the Incredible Hulk or something.

VCMVP1551
06-03-2009, 12:50 AM
You're a LIAR, Shaq's highest touch was a mere 12'4" even with his incredible 9'8" standing reach. Even a midget like 6'10" Olajuwon had a 12"6" highest touch. Ralph Sampson had a 12'11" highest touch from a standing jump.
I have NEVER EVER seen any evidence that Shaq was better than a B level jumper for a center and a C+ level jumper overall as a basketball player.

Shaq was as good a leaper as Odom in his prime BIG FRIGGIN' DEAL.
Brock Lesnar @ 301lbs had a much higher vertical leap and a FAR FAR better 40 time than Shaq ever did @ 301lbs.


Vince Carter 43" 8'11" 12'6"
Karl Malone 28" 9'2" 11'6"
Shaq 32" 9'8" 12'4"
Kobe Bryant 38" 8'10" 12'0"
Steve Francis 43" 8'5" 12'3"
Antonio McDyess 42" - -
Allen Iverson 41" - -
Shawn Kemp 40" (Seattle) - -
Rex Chapmann 39" - -
Desmond Mason 38" - -
Shaquille Oneal 32" - -
Lamar Odom 32" - -
Paul Pierce 38"
Shawn Marion 41"
Carmelo Anthony 41"
Ricky Davis 42"
Tracy McGrady 42"
Nate Robinson 43"
Jason Richardson 46"
James White 46"
Harold Miner 44"
Steve Francis 43"
LeBron James 44"
Fred Jones 42"

Legends:
Michael Jordan 48" (Chicago) 8'10" 12'5"
Dominique Wilkins 42" 9'0" 12'6"
Larry Bird 28" 9'1" 11'5"
Dr. J 41" 8'11" 12'4"
Spudd Webb 46" 7'4" 11'2"
Daryl Dawkins 34" 9'4" 12'2"
Dee Brown 44" - -
Harold Miner 44" - -
Julius Erving 43" - -
Larry Nance 40" - -
Ralph Sampson 36" - -
Karl Malone 28"
Magic Johnson 30" - -
Shawn Kemp 40"

Other High Vertical Leaps (Non-NBA)
Kadour Ziani (5'10)
Highest Vertical Leaper from Slamnation 60"
World Record Vertical Leap
Michael Wilson (Globetrotters) 51" - -
Reggie Thompson (Jumpsoles) 56" - -
Ronnie Fields (CBA) 48" - -
Melvin Levett 45" - -
l Pierce Henry Beckering 45"

NFL
Randy Moss 51" (53" running)
- -
Jevon Kearse 265 lbs 40" - -

NCAA
Brandon Dean 39" -

Those numbers are BS. You know how I know that? Because Jordan's vertical was never measured, he stated so himself. He said he didn't want to know what it was because he felt it would limit him. I seriously doubt it was 48" as well. And if you honestly think that Ralph Sampson had a vertical higher than Shaq's much less 4" higher then you're an even bigger idiot than I thought you were. And that's saying something.

VCMVP1551
06-03-2009, 12:51 AM
I never said that Shaq was 380+ now. I said he was during the 2002 playoffs. It was well known that Shaq was 375+ in the 2002-2003 and 2001-2002 seasons. The Lakers listed him at 330, but everyone knew he was heavier. Shaq has been in the 320-340 range since leaving Miami.

jinsanity
06-03-2009, 01:00 AM
I was looking through that DraftExpress website. I was particularly interested in CP3 so I was looking at the 2005 Draft Class.Interesting thing is that Marcin Gortat has a 36inch vertical! Lol, that's VERY impressive especially for a big man. It's also impressive considering the stereotype that Euro's can't jump...

giantgonzolez
06-03-2009, 01:03 AM
I never said that Shaq was 380+ now. I said he was during the 2002 playoffs. It was well known that Shaq was 375+ in the 2002-2003 and 2001-2002 seasons. The Lakers listed him at 330, but everyone knew he was heavier. Shaq has been in the 320-340 range since leaving Miami.

Do you even know what 380 looks like? Shaq was NEVER 380. Never more than 325 or so. Shaq's always looks underweight and weak even at his heaviest. Dalip Singh @ 387 is a good example, he's twice as thick as Shaq ever was and he's all muscle while Shaq was mostly fat and Muscle is much denser. If Shaq weight 380, you'd expect Dalip Singh to weigh about 600lbs in those bodybuilding pics since muscle is much heavier than fat.

VCMVP1551
06-03-2009, 01:18 AM
Do you even know what 380 looks like? Shaq was NEVER 380. Never more than 325 or so. Shaq's always looks underweight and weak even at his heaviest. Dalip Singh @ 387 is a good example, he's twice as thick as Shaq ever was and he's all muscle while Shaq was mostly fat and Muscle is much denser. If Shaq weight 380, you'd expect Dalip Singh to weigh about 600lbs in those bodybuilding pics since muscle is much heavier than fat.

Shaq as a rookie was weighed by the NBA at 303 pounds. This is what he looked like then.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2ykxp1c.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ep7wc2.jpg


Shaq was weighed before the 2002 playoffs at 382. This is what he looked like then.
http://i43.tinypic.com/6yflw8.jpg


Don't you think that Shaq easily could have been 80 pounds heavier in 2002 than he was in 1992?

Luigi
06-03-2009, 06:49 PM
You're a LIAR

. . .

Kingwillball
06-03-2009, 11:27 PM
You're a LIAR, Shaq's highest touch was a mere 12'4" even with his incredible 9'8" standing reach. Even a midget like 6'10" Olajuwon had a 12"6" highest touch. Ralph Sampson had a 12'11" highest touch from a standing jump.
I have NEVER EVER seen any evidence that Shaq was better than a B level jumper for a center and a C+ level jumper overall as a basketball player.

Shaq was as good a leaper as Odom in his prime BIG FRIGGIN' DEAL.
Brock Lesnar @ 301lbs had a much higher vertical leap and a FAR FAR better 40 time than Shaq ever did @ 301lbs.


Vince Carter 43" 8'11" 12'6"
Karl Malone 28" 9'2" 11'6"
Shaq 32" 9'8" 12'4"
Kobe Bryant 38" 8'10" 12'0"
Steve Francis 43" 8'5" 12'3"
Antonio McDyess 42" - -
Allen Iverson 41" - -
Shawn Kemp 40" (Seattle) - -
Rex Chapmann 39" - -
Desmond Mason 38" - -
Shaquille Oneal 32" - -
Lamar Odom 32" - -
Paul Pierce 38"
Shawn Marion 41"
Carmelo Anthony 41"
Ricky Davis 42"
Tracy McGrady 42"
Nate Robinson 43"
Jason Richardson 46"
James White 46"
Harold Miner 44"
Steve Francis 43"
LeBron James 44"
Fred Jones 42"

Legends:
Michael Jordan 48" (Chicago) 8'10" 12'5"
Dominique Wilkins 42" 9'0" 12'6"
Larry Bird 28" 9'1" 11'5"
Dr. J 41" 8'11" 12'4"
Spudd Webb 46" 7'4" 11'2"
Daryl Dawkins 34" 9'4" 12'2"
Dee Brown 44" - -
Harold Miner 44" - -
Julius Erving 43" - -
Larry Nance 40" - -
Ralph Sampson 36" - -
Karl Malone 28"
Magic Johnson 30" - -
Shawn Kemp 40"

Other High Vertical Leaps (Non-NBA)
Kadour Ziani (5'10)
Highest Vertical Leaper from Slamnation 60"
World Record Vertical Leap
Michael Wilson (Globetrotters) 51" - -
Reggie Thompson (Jumpsoles) 56" - -
Ronnie Fields (CBA) 48" - -
Melvin Levett 45" - -
l Pierce Henry Beckering 45"

NFL
Randy Moss 51" (53" running)
- -
Jevon Kearse 265 lbs 40" - -

NCAA
Brandon Dean 39" -


Dude some of your Verticals are inflated. Randy Moss 51" yeah OK. Carmelo only has a 35 vert and Shaq had a 36 coming into the NBA. Jason Richardson is 39 those are just a couple and Jordan didn't have a 48" either.

NotYetGreat
06-04-2009, 02:07 AM
Shaq is an amaing athlete. Did you see that movie... ummm.... well, there was that movie with Penny, and there was this one game where he nearly just scored all of his points on dunks and alley-oops. He was jumping like a man possessed!

DCL
06-04-2009, 04:14 AM
shaq was always a mutant.