NBA player rankings by position

[insidehoops]

To help me get started, post who you say the top 5-7 players are at each position in the NBA, for the 2009-10 season.

Again, make it for next season. So, if a guy showed his age slightly this season, assume he'll be slightly worse next year.

And, think offense and defense. And remember, defense isn't just shot-blocks or steals, it's a lot more than that.

And, consider whether a guy helps make others better, or is really just a scorer who isn't too good at anything else. Etc.

Aim for at least 5 at each position, and if you feel like going as high as 10, or even higher, go for it.

And, if you feel like it, add an insightful comment about some or all of the players next to their name.

Just to get started, not official:

POINT GUARDS
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Chauncey Billups
Devin Harris
Steve Nash
Jason Kidd

SHOOTING GUARDS
Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy

SMALL FORWARDS
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony

POWER FORWARDS
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan

CENTERS
Dwight Howard
Yao Ming

[Nets fan 93]

PG:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Devin Harris

SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Kevin Durant
5. Andre Iguodala

PF
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Chris Bosh
4. Dirk Norwitzki
5. Amare Stoudemire

Center
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaq
5. Brook Lopez

[RocketGreatness]

PG:
1. CP3
2. D-Will
3. Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Nash
6. Rondo
7. Jameer Nelson - Healthy
8. Devin Harris
9. Derrick Rose
10. Andre Miller

SG:
1. Kobe
2. D. Wade
3. B-Roy
4. Manu Ginobili - Healthy
5. Joe Johnson
6. Ray Allen
7. Vince Carter
8. Kevin Martin
9. Ben Gordon
10. O.J Mayo

SF:
1. LeBron
2. Melo
3. Pierce
4. Durant
5. Granger
6. Hedo
7. S-Jax
8. Artest
9. Iguodala
10. Butler

PF:
1. Duncan - Healthy
2. Dirk
3. KG
4. Gasol
5. Amare
6. Boozer
7. Bosh
8. David West
9. Aldridge
10. Jamison

C:
1. Yao - Healthy
2. Dwight
3. Big Al
4. Shaq
5. Bynum
6. Nene
7. Brook Lopez
8. Kendrick Perkins
9. Emeka Okafor
10. Tyson Chandler

[qrich]

PG:
Deron Williams
Chauncey Billups
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Jason Kidd
Steve Nash
Rajon Rondo


SG:
Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy
Emmanuel Ginobili
Joe Johnson
Ben Gordon
Vince Carter

SF:
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Hidayet Turkoglu
Paul Pierce
Andre Igoudala
John Salmons


PF:
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Pau Gasol
Amare Stoudemire
Al Jefferson
Zach Randolph


CE:
Yao Ming
Dwight Howard
Mehmet Okur
Shaquille O'Neal
Nene Hilario
Marcus Camby
Chris Kaman

[quasimoto]

PG:
1. Paul
2. Billups
3. Williams
4. Nash
5. Parker

SG:
1. Wade
2. Bryant
3. Roy
4. Ginobili
5. Johnson

SF:
1. James
2. Pierce
3. Anthony
4. Durant
5. Turkoglu

PF
1. Duncan
2. Garnett
3. Nowitzki
4. Bosh
5. Gasol

Center
1. Howard
2. Yao
3. Shaq
4. Nene
5. Bynum

[brantonli]

Point Guards:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Devin Harris (underrated after suffering that injury)

Shooting Guards:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Vince Carter

Small Forwards
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Danny Granger
5. Paul Pierce

Power Forwards
1. Tim Duncan
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Al Jefferson
5. Pau Gasol

Centers
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Shaq
The rest don't matter.

[Brunch@Five]

PG
1 Chris Paul
2 Deron Williams
3 Tony Parker
4 Steve Nash
5 Rondo

SG
1 Wade
2 Kobe
3 Roy
4 Joe Johnson
5 Vince Carter

SF
1 LeBron
2 Carmelo
3 Durant
4 Pierce
5

PF
1 Dirk
2 Bosh
3 Duncan
4 Pau Gasol
5 Amar'e

C
1 Dwight
2 Yao
3 Al Jefferson
4 Shaq
5 Greg Oden

[Allstar24]

PG:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Rajon Rondo

SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Paul Pierce
5. Andre Igoudala

PF:
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Tim Duncan
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Pau Gasol
5. Chris Bosh

C:
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Shaquille O'Neal

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

PG
1 Chris Paul
2 Deron Williams
3 Tony Parker
4 Chauncey Billups
5 Rajon Rondo

SG
1 Kobe Bryant
2 Dwyane Wade
3 Brandon Roy
4 Joe Johnson
5 Manu Ginobili

SF
1 LeBron James
2 Carmelo Anthony
3 Paul Pierce
4 Kevin Durant
5 Danny Granger

PF
1 Kevin Garnett
2 Tim Duncan
3 Chris Bosh
4 Pau Gasol
5 Dirk Nowitzki

C
1 Yao Ming
2 Dwight howard
3 Al Jefferson
4 Shaquille O'Neal
5 Kendrick Perkins

[phoenix18]

PG
1.CP3
2.Gilbert Arenas
3.Chauncy Billups
4.Deron Williams
5.Jameer Nelson

SG:
1.Dwayne Wade
2.Brandon Roy
3.Kobe Bryant
4.Kevin Durant
5.Joe Johnson

SF:
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Danny Granger
5.Caron Butler

PF:
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Tim Duncan
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Chris Bosh
5. Pau Gasol

C:1 Yao Ming
2 Dwight howard
3 Al Jefferson
4 Shaquille O'Neal
5 Kendrick Perkins

[depletedW]

POINT GUARDS:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Devin Harris

SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Andre Iguodala
5. Joe Johnson

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Danny Granger
5. Paul Pierce

PF:
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Pau Gasol
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Tim Duncan
5. Amare Stoudemire

C:
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaquille O'Neal
5. Andrew Bynum

[nbastatus]

POINT GUARDS
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Chauncey Billups
Tony Parker
Devin Harris
Steve Nash
Derrick Rose

SHOOTING GUARDS
Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy
Joe Johnson
Ray Allen

SMALL FORWARDS
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony (IF HEALTHY)
Paul Pierce
Kevin Durant
Danny Granger

POWER FORWARDS
Kevin Garnett (IF HEALTHY)
Tim Duncan
Pau Gasol
Chris Bosh
David West


CENTERS
Yao Ming
Dwight Howard
Al Jefferson
Nene
Shaq

[KeylessEntry]

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncy Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Rajon Rondo

SG
1. Dwayne Wade
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Manu Ginobli

SF
1. Lebron James
2. Paul Pierce
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Hedo Turkoglu
5. Danny Granger

PF
1. Tim Duncan
2. Pau Gasol
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Amare Stoudemire

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaq
5. Nene

[chitownsfinest]

PG:
1.Chris Paul
2. Deron
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. (homer pick) Derrick Rose
SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. D Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Iguodala
5. Ray Allen/Joe Johnson
SF:
1. Lebron
2. Melo
3. Durant
4. Granger
5. Pierce
PF:
1. Dirk
2. Duncan
3. Gasol
4. Garnett
5. Al Jefferson
C:
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Shaq
4. Bynum
5. Perkins

[1~Gibson~1]

PG:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Steve Nash
6. Daniel Gibson

SG:
1. Kobe Bean Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Healthy Manu
5. Joe Johnson
6. Daniel Gibson

SF:
1. King James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Kevin Durant
5. Danny Granger

PF:
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Al Jefferson
5. Chris Bosh

C:
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Shaqtus
4. Andris Biedrins
5. Nene

[teleport]

PG:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Steve Nash


SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginobli
5. Joe Johnson


SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Kevin Durant
5. Danny Granger

PF:
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Pau Gasol
5. Chris Bosh

C:
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaq
5. Nene

[Maniak]

POINT GUARDS
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Steve Nash
Devin Harris


SHOOTING GUARDS
Dwyane Wade
Kobe Bryant
Brandon Roy
Joe Johnson
Manu Ginobili

SMALL FORWARDS
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Danny Granger
Kevin Durant
Paul Pierce

POWER FORWARDS
Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitski
Kevin Garnett
Pau Gasol
Chris Bosh

CENTERS
Dwight Howard
Yao Ming
Al Jefferson
Nene
Shaq

[crisoner]

Anyone who puts Wade over Kobe need to get slap.

http://is1.okcupid.com/users/156/664/1566642811609810544/mt1114812009.jpg

[phoenix18]

Anyone who puts Wade over Kobe need to get slap.

So your trying to tell me that Wade didnt play better than Kobe this year and wont play better next year?

[1~Gibson~1]

Anyone who puts Wade over Kobe need to get slap. anyone who sux kobe's dick should get slapped.

http://is1.okcupid.com/users/156/664/1566642811609810544/mt1114812009.jpg

[phoenix18]

Got em!! funny pic, crisoner.

[redhonda76]

PG:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Billups
4. Nash
5. Tony Parker

SG:
1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Roy
4. Carter
5. Joe Johnson

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Pierce
4. Granger
5. Hedo

PF:
1. Duncan
2. Garnett
3. Dirk
4. Pau Gasol
5. Chris Bosh

C:
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Shaquille O'Neal

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Wade isn't better than Kobe, he just has to do more for his team to win.

[RocketGreatness]

Wade isn't better than Kobe, he just has to do more for his team to win.
Pretty much. Wade is the better Finals performer though. I hate it when people do nothing but look at the stats and never use any logic to determine why they have those stats.

It's no different than Kobe averaging 35 PPG in the 05-06 and 06-07 seasons. Kobe was on a garbage team, stuff like that will happen when you are on a garbage team.

[crisoner]

anyone who sux kobe's dick should get slapped.

http://is1.okcupid.com/users/156/664/1566642811609810544/mt1114812009.jpg


Give me your Moms pic so I can photoshop her on to the picture.....

WHAMMY!!!!!

LOL jp bro you walked into that one.

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/c/1/c/c1c4bb67a25f0d031d8f2946a10a72ce.jpg

[Ben Jordan]

PG:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Gilbert Arenas
6. Steve Nash
7. Rajon Rondo
8. Maurice Williams
9. Jameer Nelson
10. Derrick Rose

SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Andre Iguodala
6. Joe Johnson
7. Ben Gordon
8. Ray Allen
9. Vince Carter
10. Michael Redd

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Kevin Durant
5. Danny Granger
6. Ron Artest
7. Caron Butler
8. Josh Smith
9. Josh Howard
10. Tayshaun Prince

PF:
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Pau Gasol
5. Amare Stoudemire
6. Chris Bosh
7. Carlos Boozer
8. Elton Brand
9. LaMarcus Aldridge
10. Antawn Jamison

C:
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaquille O'Neal
5. Andrew Bynum
6. Nene
7. Brook Lopez
8. Kendrick Perkins
9. Emeka Okafor
10. Joakim Noah

[Nets fan 93]

^^ Harris doesnt make the top 10?

[STATmanLAKERFAN]

PG-
1.Chauncey Billups
2.D Will
CP3(tie)
4.Tony Parker
5.Steve Nash
6.Rajon Rondo
7.Agent 0
8.Andre Miller(one of the most underated in the league)
9.Derrick Rose
10.Devin Harris
SG-
1.Kobe
2.DWade(close second, crazy for his team)
3.Manu
4.Brandon Roy
5.Iggy
6.Joe Johnson
7.Ray Allen
8.Ben Gordan
9.Micheal Redd
10.VC
SF-
1.LBJ
2.Melo
3.PP
4.Danny Granger
5.Kevin Durant
6.Ron Ron
7.Caron Butler
8.Hedo
9.Rudy Gay
10.RJ
PF-
1.Timmy
2.KG
3.Dirk
4.STAT
5.CB4
6.Shard
Pau Gasol(tie)
8.Josh Smith
9.David West
10.Antawn Jamison
C-
1.Yao
2.Dwight
3.Shaq
4.Al Jefferson
5.Nene
6.Emeka Okafur
7.Mehmet Okur
8.KPerk
9.Al Horford
10.Andrew Bogut

[Agent_Zero]

PGs:

Chris Paul
Chauncey Billups
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Gilbert Arenas
Jameer Nelson
Rajon Rondo
Derrick Rose
Devin Harris
Mo Williams

SGs:

Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy
Ben Gordon
Joe Johnson
Vince Carter
Manu Ginobli
Ray Allen
Andre Iguodala
Michael Redd

SFs:

LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Paul Pierce
Kevin Durant
Hedo Turkoglu
Danny Granger
Ron Artest
Caron Butler
Josh Smith
Gerald Wallace

PFs:

Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Tim Duncan
Pau Gasol
Chris Bosh
Amare Stoudemire
Carlos Boozer
Antawn Jamison
Al Horford
LaMarcus Aldridge

Cs:

Dwight Howard
Yao Ming
Al Jefferson
Shaq
Nene
Andre Bynum
Brook Lopez
Emeka Okafor
Glen Davis
Brad Miller

Goddamn, the disparity of quality centers in the L is really frightening...and this shyt took forever

[BALLin01]

PG:
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Tony Parker
4.Chauncey Billups
5.Devin Harris

SG:
1.Dwayne Wade
2.Kobe Bryant
3.Brandon Roy
4.Joe Johnson
5.Allen Iverson(gonna surprise next year)

SF:
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Kevin Durant
4.Danny Granger
5.Paul Pierce

PF:
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Paul Gasol
5.Amare Stoudamir'e

C.
1.Dwight Howard
2.Yao Ming
3.Al Jefferson
4.Shaq
5.Nene

[barne100]

So your trying to tell me that Wade didnt play better than Kobe this year and wont play better next year?

dude, you put brandon roy over kobe too... we clearly know your opinion isn't really an opinion. surely not an educated one.

[plowking]

[QUOTE=BALLin01]PG:
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3. Rajon Rondo
4.Tony Parker
5.Chauncey Billups


SG:
1.Dwayne Wade
2.Kobe Bryant
3.Brandon Roy
4.Joe Johnson
5.Delonte West

SF:
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Kevin Durant
4.Danny Granger
5.Paul Pierce

PF:
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Pau Gasol
3. Chris Bosh
4.Tim Duncan
5.Amare Stoudamir'e

C.
1.Dwight Howard
2.Yao Ming
3.Shaq
4.Nene
5. Perkins

[Bigboi450]

PG:
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Tony Parker
4.Chauncey Billups
5.Rajon Rondo
6.Devin Harris
7.Andre Miller
8.Jason Kidd
9.Derrick Rose
10.Steve Nash

SG:
1.Kobe
2.Dwade
3.Brandon Roy
4.Joe Johnson
5.Vince Carter
6.Manu
7.Kevin Martin
8.Ray Allen
9.Ben Gordon
10.OJ Mayo

SF:
1.LeBron
2.Melo
3.Kevin Durant
4.Danny Granger
5.Paul Pierce
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Hedo
8.Josh Smith
9.Caron Butler
10.Richard Jefferson

PF:
1.Dirk Nowitski
2.Tim Duncan
3.Kevin Garnett
4.Pau Gasol
5.Chris Bosh
6.Amare Stoudemire
7.Carlos Boozer
8.David West
9.Antwan Jamison
10.Lamarcus Aldridge

C:
1.Yao Ming
2.Dwight Howard
3.Al Jefferson
4.Nene
5.Brook Lopez
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Shaq
8.Emeka Okafor
9.Tyson Chandler
10.Andris Biedrins

[wg1man]

PG
Chris Paul
Chauncey Billups
Deron Williams
Jason Kidd
Tony Parker

SG
Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Joe Johnson
Brandon Roy
Vince Carter

SF
Lebron
Carmelo
Pierce
Granger
Iguodala

PF
Duncan
Garnett
Bosh
Gasol
Boozer

C
Dwight
Yao
Stoudemire
Shaq
Jeffersoon

[Lebron23]

Point Guard

Chris Paul
Chauncey Billups
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Rajon Rondo

Shooting Guard

Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy
Joe Johnson
Vince Carter

Small Forward


Lebron James
Carmelo Antony
Paul Pierce
Danny Granger
Andre Iguodala

Power Forward

Dirk Nowitzki
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Chris Bosh
Carlos Boozer

Center

Dwight Howard
Yao Ming
Shaquille O'Neal
Pau Gasol
Al Jefferson

[jordanair4230]

the instant players go to the clippers they are forgotten lol, what about baron davis and marcus camby. 1 dude had zack randolph but i hate randolph, just me.
kamans pretty good center too

[sirkeelma]

PG
Steve Nash
Chauncey Billups
Rajon Rondo
Tony Parker

SG
Kobe Bryant
Ron Artest
Dwayne Wade

SF
Paul Pierce
Lebron James
Andrei Kirilenko

PF
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Pao Gasol

Center
Shaqulle O'Neal
Dwight Howard
Zydrunas Ilguskas

[momo]

Lamar Odom is not on anyone's list at any position?

[phoenix18]

dude, you put brandon roy over kobe too... we clearly know your opinion isn't really an opinion. surely not an educated one.
This is for 2009-2010 which is, NEXT YEAR. Is Kobe going to get any better?No. Brandon Roy will. Wade will.

[phoenix18]

Lamar Odom is not on anyone's list at any position?
I love LO but I couldnt put him at any position because he can play it all. Thats how good he is.

[KOBEfan85]

I have only one word... KOBE

And that's it!

http://alltalksports.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/kobe.jpg

[lil baller]

pgs
1.williams
2.paul
3.billups
4.harris
5.parker

sgs.
1.wade
2.kobe
3.roy
4.johnson
5.carter

sfs.
1.james
2.melo
3.durant
4.granger
5.perice

pfs.
1.bosh
2.garnett
3.amar'e
4.duncan
5.beasley(kinda homer pick but this coming season is his time to shine)

centers.
1.dwight
2.jefferson
3.p.gasol
4.yao
5.b.lopez

[depletedW]

Lamar Odom is not on anyone's list at any position?
He's not a top 5 player at SF or PF

[Gamba]

Can't believe Tmac isn't on anyone's list so far.
He'll surprise everyone next season.

[Grinder]

PG:
1. Paul
2. Williams
3. Billups
4. Parker
5. Rondo

SG:
1. Wade
2. Bryant
3. Roy
4. Ginobili
5. Johnson

SF:
1. James
2. Anthony
3. Pierce
4. Granger
5. Durant

PF
1. Nowitzki
2. Duncan
3. Garnett
4. Gasol
5. Bosh

Center
1. Howard
2. Yao
3. Shaq
4. Jefferson
5. Biedrins

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Lamar Odom not being on the top 5 list isn't that big of a deal. But there have been around 10 posters not put Dirk on the top 5 PF spot.

The hatred of him runs deep on this board. There is no excuse to not put him in the top 5 considering 4 out of the last 5 years he has been first team all-nba.

[depletedW]

Lamar Odom not being on the top 5 list isn't that big of a deal. But there have been around 10 posters not put Dirk on the top 5 PF spot.

The hatred of him runs deep on this board. There is no excuse to not put him in the top 5 considering 4 out of the last 5 years he has been first team all-nba.
Or people putting freakin' Pau Gasol in front of him.

It's amazing how people conveniently forget that Gasol plays with Kobe, thus making his job on the court easier.

Gasol is good, but better than Dirk?
:ohwell:

[FIXED]

To help me get started, post who you say the top 5-7 players are at each position in the NBA, for the 2009-10 season.

Again, make it for next season. So, if a guy showed his age slightly this season, assume he'll be slightly worse next year.

And, think offense and defense. And remember, defense isn't just shot-blocks or steals, it's a lot more than that.

And, consider whether a guy helps make others better, or is really just a scorer who isn't too good at anything else. Etc.

Aim for at least 5 at each position, and if you feel like going as high as 10, or even higher, go for it.

And, if you feel like it, add an insightful comment about some or all of the players next to their name.

In the words of lilojmayo:

POINT GUARDS
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Tony Parker
4.Chauncey Billups
5.Devin Harris


SHOOTING GUARDS
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwyane Wade
3.Brandon Roy
4.O.J. Mayo ( ppl pick him top 3 rounds in fantasy you will be glad you did i know i am)
5. Joe Johnson


SMALL FORWARDS
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Danny Granger
5. Paul Pierce
POWER FORWARDS

1.Kevin Garnett
2.Al Jefferson
3. Amare Stodamire
4. Tim Duncan
5. Chris Bosh

CENTERS
1.Dwight Howard
2.Yao Ming
3. Brook Lopez
4. Chris Kaman ( bounce back year)
5. Greg Oden ( Haters)

[The Logo]

PGs:

1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Rajon Rondo
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Jason Kidd


SGs:

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Ray Allen
5. Joe Johnson


SFs:

1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Danny Granger
5. Kevin Durant

PFs:

1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Tim Duncan
3. Chris Bosh
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Pau Gasol

Cs:

1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaq
5. Nene

[Papaya Petee]

PG

Deron Williams
Chris Paul
Chauncey Billups
Tony Parker
Devin Harris
Mo Williams
Andre Miller
Steve Nash
Jason Kidd
Rajon Rondo

SG

Wade
Kobe
Roy
Joe Johnson
Mike Redd
Manu Ginobili
T-Mac
Delonte West

SF

Bron
Melo
Pierce
Iggy
Granger
Durant
Butler


PF

Amare
Bosh
Duncan
Gasol
Beasley


C

Dwight
Yao
Shaq
Al Jefferson
Bynum

[KobeRules24]

PG
Deron Williams
Chris Paul
Chauncey Billups
Tony Parker
Rondo

SG
Wade
Kobe
B-Roy
Joe Johnson
Redd

SF

LeBron
Melo
Granger
Iggy
Pierce
Durant
Butler


PF
Amare
Gasol
Duncan
Bosh


C

Dwight
Yao
Shaq
Al Jefferson
Bynum

[NuggetsFan]

PG:
1. Paul
2. Williams
3. Parker
4. Billups
5. Rondo

SG:
1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Vince Carter

SF:
1. Lebron
2. Melo
3. Pierce
4. Durant
5. Granger

PF
1. Duncan
2. Garnett
3. Dirk
4. Pau Gasol
5. Amare

Center
1. Howard
2. Yao
3. Shaq
4. Beideriens(sp prolly)
5. Nene

[Mr Know It All]

PG

1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncy Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Rajon Rondo

SG

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Andre Igoudala

SF

1. Lebron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Kevin Durant
5. Danny Granger

PF

1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Tim Duncan
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Amare Stoudamire
5. Pau Gasol

C

1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Shaquille O'Neal
4. Al Jefferson
5. Andrew Bynum

[craiye]

PG

1 Chris Paul
2 Deron Williams
3 Tony Parker
4 Deron Williams
5 Steve Nash (though this could be Kidd, Harris, Nelson, Rose, Rondo etc.)

SG

1 Dwyane Wade
2 Kobe Bryant
3 Brandon Roy
4 Manu Ginobli
5 Joe Johnson

SF

1 Lebron James
2 Carmelo Anthony
3 Paul Pierce
4 Kevin Durant
5 Danny Granger

PF

1 Dirk Nowitzki
2 Tim Duncan
3 Kevin Garnett
4 Pau Gasol
5 Amare Stoudemire

C

1 Dwight Howard
2 Yao Ming
3 Shaq O'Neal
4 Al Jefferson (I guess he's a C now)
5 Mehmet Okur

The ordering of the top 3 PFs are tough at this point. It's gotta be those 3 guys, but it really depends on how well KG plays after his injury and if Duncan drops off a bit again. Dirk had one hell of a season this year.

I picked Okur at #5 assuming he stays with the Jazz and Boozer leaves.

Also, the underrating of Granger amazes me. I'm completely clueless as to how he's not in everyone's top 5 for SF. Mind boggling.

[depletedW]

The ordering of the top 3 PFs are tough at this point. It's gotta be those 3 guys, but it really depends on how well KG plays after his injury and if Duncan drops off a bit again. Dirk had one hell of a season this year.

Yeah, as much as I didn't want to, I had to put Gasol ahead of Garnett and Duncan. Mainly because you never know with knee injuries at that Garnett's age, and Duncan has been slowly declining.

And the absolute disrespect of Dirk is astounding, as shown by the large gaggle of posters who didn't even put him in their top 5.

[depletedW]

PF

Amare
Bosh
Duncan
Gasol
Beasley




Really? Beasley?
:ohwell:

[GreatGreg]

In the words of lilojmayo:

POINT GUARDS
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Tony Parker
4.Chauncey Billups
5.Devin Harris


SHOOTING GUARDS
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwyane Wade
3.Brandon Roy
4.O.J. Mayo ( ppl pick him top 3 rounds in fantasy you will be glad you did i know i am)
5. Joe Johnson


SMALL FORWARDS
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Danny Granger
5. Paul Pierce
POWER FORWARDS

1.Kevin Garnett
2.Al Jefferson
3. Amare Stodamire
4. Tim Duncan
5. Chris Bosh

CENTERS
1.Dwight Howard
2.Yao Ming
3. Brook Lopez
4. Chris Kaman ( bounce back year)
5. Greg Oden ( Haters)
If OJ Mayo deserves 4, then Ben Gordon deserves 3.
OJ May is definitely not a ****ing 4. You suck his dick way too much.

[Undisputed]

POINT GUARDS

1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Gilbert Arenas ( I have a feeling he's going to come back in a big way next season )


SHOOTING GUARDS

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Ray Allen

SMALL FORWARDS

1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Danny Granger
5. Andre Iguodala

POWER FORWARDS

1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Tim Duncan
3. Chris Bosh
4. Pau Gasol
5. Amare Stoudemire

CENTERS

1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaq
5. Nene

[depletedW]

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Gilbert Arenas ( I have a feeling he's going to come back in a big way next season )



Arenas is a PG bud. :confusedshrug:

[Undisputed]

Arenas is a PG bud. :confusedshrug:

My bad, mixed that up. I was on the phone while typing that.

[depletedW]

My bad, mixed that up. I was on the phone while typing that.
No prob.
:cheers:

[Parthenon]

PG
CP3
Deron
Devon Harris
Nash
Rondo


SG
Kobe
Wade
B-Roy
Rip
K-Money

SF
Bron
Melo
Durant
Hedo
Paul P

PF
Duncan
Dirk
Gasol
KG
Amare

C
Yao
Howard
Shaq
Perk
Brook Lopez

[redhonda76]

PF

Amare
Bosh
Duncan
Gasol
Beasley

You're kidding me, right?

[Bigsmoke]

PG:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Devin Harris

SG:
1 Dwayne Wade
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Brandon Roy
4. Ray Allen
5. Joe Johnson

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Paul Pierce
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Kevin Durant
5. Andre Iguodala

PF
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Dirk Norwitzki
4. Pau Gasol
5. Chris Bosh

Center
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaq
5. Brook Lopez

[raptorfan_dr07]

PG:
1) Chris Paul
2) Deron Williams
3) Chauncey Billups
4) Tony Parker
5) Steve Nash

SG:
1) Dwyane Wade
2) Kobe Bryant
3) Brandon Roy
4) Joe Johnson
5) Ray Allen

SF:
1) Lebron James
2) Carmelo Anthony
3) Paul Pierce
4) Danny Granger
5) Kevin Durant

PF:
1) Tim Duncan
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Kevin Garnett
4) Chris Bosh
5) Amare Stoudamire

C:
1) Dwight Howard
2) Yao Ming
3) Shaquille O'Neal
4) Al Jefferson
5) Andris Biedrins

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

PG:
Deron Williams
Chauncey Billups
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Jason Kidd
Steve Nash
Rajon Rondo


SG:
Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy
Emmanuel Ginobili
Joe Johnson
Ben Gordon
Vince Carter

SF:
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Hidayet Turkoglu
Paul Pierce
Andre Igoudala
John Salmons


PF:
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Pau Gasol
Amare Stoudemire
Al Jefferson
Zach Randolph


CE:
Yao Ming
Dwight Howard
Mehmet Okur
Shaquille O'Neal
Nene Hilario
Marcus Camby
Chris Kaman


Where is Danny Granger? That small foward list is fauked up

[A.M.G.]

You asked for the top 5-7.

PG:
1. Chris Paul
2. Chauncey Billups
3. Deron Williams
4. Tony Parker
5. Steve Nash
6. Devin Harris
7. Derrick Rose

SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Manu Ginobli
6. Ray Allen
7. Kevin Martin

SF:
1. Lebron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Danny Granger
4. Paul Pierce
5. Kevin Durant
6. Ron Artest
7. Caron Butler

PF:
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Dirk Nowitski
3. Chris Bosh
4. Amare Stoudamire
5. Pau Gasol
6. David West
7. Carlos Boozer

C:
1. Dwight Howard
2. Tim Duncan
3. Yao Ming
4. Al Jefferson
5. Shaquille O'Neal
6. Mehmet Okur
7. Andris Biedrins

[dafunkphenom]

Big Men - C and PF combined
1. Dwight Howard
2. Tim Duncan
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Amare Stoudemire

Small Forwards
1. Lebron James
2. Paul Pierce
3. Carmelo Anthony

Shooting Guards
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Brandon Roy

Point Guards
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Tony Parker

[gasolina]

PGs
1. Paul
2. Deron
3. Parker
4. Billups
5. Nash

SGs
1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Roy
4. Manu
5. JJ Redick jk

SFs
1. Lebron
2. Melo
3. PP
4. Granger
5. Iggy

PFs
1. Duncan
2. K.G.
3. Dirk
4. Gasol
5. Amare
6. Al Jeff

Cs
1. Dwight
2. Yao
3. Shaq
4. Bogut
5. Biedrins

[Gamba]

Big Men - C and PF combined
1. Dwight Howard
2. Tim Duncan
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Amare Stoudemire


LOL at Howard being better than Duncan and Garnett.

[dafunkphenom]

LOL at Howard being better than Duncan and Garnett.
He has passed Duncan and Garnett at this point. Those guys are about to hit the NBA wall and start declining soon if not already. The NBA wall is 34 and both those guys have alot of miles on their legs.
Dwight might have his offensive shortcomings but he is the most indimidating big man down low as well as a great defensive presence. He's the new king of the mountain when it comes to big men.

[D-Rose]

He has passed Duncan and Garnett at this point. Those guys are about to hit the NBA wall and start declining soon if not already. The NBA wall is 34 and both those guys have alot of miles on their legs.
Dwight might have his offensive shortcomings but he is the most indimidating big man down low as well as a great defensive presence. He's the new king of the mountain when it comes to big men.
:oldlol: Every single GM in the league would take KG or Timmy over Dwight for at least 2 seasons.

Kobe has miles on his legs, you going to take Joe Johnson over him? :rolleyes:

[bballer]

I would stick with Kobe over anyone.

[ExtremeHops]

PG
Paul
Deron
Parker
Billups
Rondo

SG
Wade
Kobe
Roy
Johnson
Ginobli

SF
LeBron
Carmelo
Durant
Pierce
Granger

PF
Duncan
Dirk
Garnett
Bosh
Gasol

C
Howard
Yao
Al Jefferson
Shaq
Lopez/Nene

[Papaya Petee]

Wow I am a joke for forgetting the best PF in the league Dirk. WTF is wrong with me.

Dirk
Amare
Bosh
Duncan
Gasol
Beasley( Homer Pick, but the kid is a scoring machine)

[depletedW]

Wow I am a joke for forgetting the best PF in the league Dirk. WTF is wrong with me.

Dirk
Amare
Bosh
Duncan
Gasol
Beasley( Homer Pick, but the kid is a scoring machine)
I hope you are serious.

If so:
:cheers:

[henbus33]

SF

LeBron
Stephen Jackson
Carmelo
Durant
Pierce

[IamSofaKing]

PG:
Paul
Deron
Billups
Parker
Rondo

SG:
Kobe
Wade
Roy
Johnson
Ray?

SF:
Lebron
Melo
Pierce
Granger
Durant

PF:
Duncan
KG
Dirk
Bosh
Gasol

C:
Yao (Healthy)
Dwight
Big Al
Shaq
:confusedshrug:

[phoenix18]

Am I the only one who would take Roy and Wade over Kobe?

[Millennium X]

Am I the only one who would take Roy and Wade over Kobe?
Wade is at least debatable but Roy is hilarious. He'll never ever be on Kobe's level.

Maybe when Kobe is 40 and if he's still in the league Roy will be better. Roy is a top 10 - 15 player so lets stop overrating him. He ain't in Kobe's league.

[phoenix18]

Wade is at least debatable but Roy is hilarious. He'll never ever be on Kobe's level.

Maybe when Kobe is 40 and if he's still in the league Roy will be better.
Are you serious?

[depletedW]

Am I the only one who would take Roy and Wade over Kobe?
You probably are

[Papaya Petee]

Am I the only one who would take Roy and Wade over Kobe?

Wade was easily the better player this season, but since Kobe is having playoff success they think Kobe had a better season, but individually speaking Wade>>>>Kobe this year.

Roy isn't even close, sorry.

[phoenix18]

We will see.

[BallersTalk]

PGs
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Steve Nash

SGs
1. Dwyane Wade
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Brandon Roy
4. Vince Carter
5. Joe Johnson

SFs
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Hedo Turkoglu
4. Paul Pierce
5. Danny Granger

PFs
1. Tim Duncan
2. Pau Gasol
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Chris Bosh

Cs
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaquille O'Neal
5. Nene

[BallersTalk]

Wade is at least debatable but Roy is hilarious. He'll never ever be on Kobe's level.

Maybe when Kobe is 40 and if he's still in the league Roy will be better. Roy is a top 10 - 15 player so lets stop overrating him. He ain't in Kobe's league.
I think it's Kobe you're overrating.

[Millennium X]

I think it's Kobe you're overrating.
Nah trust me it's Roy. People been overrating him since last year and especially Blazer fans.

I mean come on, he's a really good player but he's not great. He can't kill you the way Kobe, Lebron, Wade can.

I think Kobe and Wade are on the same level pretty much, could go either way I wouldn't have a problem with it.

But get Roy the f outta here. You overrate him if you think he'll ever be Kobe good.

I mean that guy really put Roy ahead of Kobe next season. :roll: You are basically saying that Roy's a top 3 player rofl

[xx03xx]

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Rajon Rondo
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Steve Nash
6. Tony Parker
7. Devin Harris

SG
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Tracy McGrady ( i am still hoping )
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Andre Iguodala

SF
1. Lebron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Paul Pierce
5. Ron Artest
6. Hedo Tukoglu
7. Josh Smith

PF
1. Amare Stodemire
2. Tim Duncan
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Chris Bosh
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Pau Gasol
7. Michael Beasley

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Shaquille O'Neal
4. Al Jefferson
5. Andrew Bynum
6. Nene
7. Brook Lopez

[Papaya Petee]

My question is how in the world do people put Pau Gasol, Chris Bosh or Tim Duncan ahead of Dirk this year. Dirk has easily been the best PF this year, hes been killing team by team.

[BallersTalk]

Nah trust me it's Roy. People been overrating him since last year and especially Blazer fans.

I mean come on, he's a really good player but he's not great. He can't kill you the way Kobe, Lebron, Wade can.

I think Kobe and Wade are on the same level pretty much, could go either way I wouldn't have a problem with it.

But get Roy the f outta here. You overrate him if you think he'll ever be Kobe good.

I mean that guy really put Roy ahead of Kobe next season. :roll: You are basically saying that Roy's a top 3 player rofl
If you're talking accomplishment-wise, then yeah, that's tough for Roy to match. But otherwise, he can definitely match Kobe. He has the skills, athleticism, and desire. Kobe's not untouchable. I don't know why people make him out to be this god. He's no Jordan.

[Rekindled]

pg

chris paul
tony parker
deron williams
chauncey billups
Steve Nash
Devin Harris

sg

Dwayne Wade
Kobe Bryant
Brandon Roy
Manu Ginobili
Kevin Martin

SF
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Carmelo Anthony
Paul Pierce
Danny Granger


PF
Dirk Nowitzki
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Amare Stoudamire
Pau Gasol

C
Yao Ming
Al Jefferson
Dwight Howard
Shaq

[Millennium X]

If you're talking accomplishment-wise, then yeah, that's tough for Roy to match. But otherwise, he can definitely match Kobe. He has the skills, athleticism, and desire. Kobe's not untouchable. I don't know why people make him out to be this god. He's no Jordan.
No he actually doesn

[depletedW]

I think Roy is a very good player, and his game will continue to improve to put him high on the list of top players for next season and beyond.

But to try to put him on Kobe's level, even for next year, is absurd.

[phoenix18]

[QUOTE=Millennium X]No he actually doesn

[sannguyen19]

Anybody that doesn't have Dirk on their list needs to watch another sport..

CP3
Dwill
Parker

KB
Wade
Joe Johnson


LBJ
Melo
Durant

Dirk
TD
Amare

Yao
Superman
Big Al

[Yung D-Will]

Point Guard
1. Deron Williams
2. Chris Paul
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Steve Nash

Shooting Guard
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginobilli
5. Joe Johnson

Small Forward

1. Lebron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Kevin Durant
5. Danny Granger

Power Forward

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Dirk Nowistki
4. Pau Gasol
5. Amare Stodamire/Chris Bosh

Center

1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Shaq
4. Al Jefferson
5. Andrew Bynum

[Rocker09]

Center:
1. Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Shaq

PF:
1. Nowitzki
2. Duncan
3. Garnett
4. Bosh
5. Pau

SF
1. Lebron
2. Anthony
3. Pierce
4. Durant

SG
1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Joe Johnson
4. Roy

PG
1. Paul
2. Williams
3. Billups
4. Parker
5. Nash

[truethat23]

PG
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Chancey Billips
Jameer Nelson
Tony Parker
Devin Harris
Derrick Rose

SG
Kobe Bryant
Dwayne Wade
Brandon Roy
Joe Johnson
Ray Allen

SF
Lebron James
Carmelo Anthony
Paul Pierce
Kevin Durant
Danny Granger
Hedo Turkoglu

PF
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Pau Gasol
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Bosh

C
Dwight Howard
Shaquille O'Neal
Yao Ming
Andrew Bynum
Al Jefferson

[fos]

PG
Deron Williams
Chris Paul
Steve Nash

SG
Kobe Bryant
Dwayne Wade
Brandon Roy


SF
Lebron James
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant

PF
Dirk
Duncan
Gasol

C
Yao
Howard
Al Jefferson

[IamSofaKing]

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Rajon Rondo
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Steve Nash
6. Tony Parker
7. Devin Harris

SG
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Tracy McGrady ( i am still hoping )
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Andre Iguodala

SF
1. Lebron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Paul Pierce
5. Ron Artest
6. Hedo Tukoglu
7. Josh Smith

PF
1. Amare Stodemire
2. Tim Duncan
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Chris Bosh
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Pau Gasol
7. Michael Beasley

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Shaquille O'Neal
4. Al Jefferson
5. Andrew Bynum
6. Nene
7. Brook Lopez

Whoa, slow down there Brad... :no:

[BallersTalk]

[QUOTE=Millennium X]No he actually doesn

[blinp]

He has passed Duncan and Garnett at this point. Those guys are about to hit the NBA wall and start declining soon if not already. The NBA wall is 34 and both those guys have alot of miles on their legs.
Dwight might have his offensive shortcomings but he is the most indimidating big man down low as well as a great defensive presence. He's the new king of the mountain when it comes to big men.
I really hope you're kidding......
Like I said, unless Howard can stop getting dominated by certain player(s), he is not that intimidating. If you count in his scoring ability, then even more so.

[Millennium X]

I'm not a Roy fan. And I could care less about the Blazers. But to say Roy can't approach Kobe is absurd. Roy is more athletic than Kobe was. And with experience, his skills can catch up as well. Kobe = Overrated.
Nah man it's clear you are a closet blazer fan or just a really big fan of Roy. I'm also not a Kobe/Lakers fan but I'm not dumb enough to think that Roy was either more athletic than Kobe in his prime (and I even doubt now he is), or that he'll ever be as good as Kobe. To say that Roy will ever be on the same level as Kobe is just stupid man, get real. Nobody thinks Roy will be that good when he's barely top 10 in the league right now

[phoenix18]

Nah man it's clear you are a closet blazer fan or just a really big fan of Roy. I'm also not a Kobe/Lakers fan but I'm not dumb enough to think that Roy was either more athletic than Kobe in his prime (and I even doubt now he is), or that he'll ever be as good as Kobe. To say that Roy will ever be on the same level as Kobe is just stupid man, get real. Nobody thinks Roy will be that good when he's barely top 10 in the league right now
Whats wrong with Roy? All I am saying is that he will have a better year than Kobe. Is that really a reach, just one year? I am not bashing him at all, no hating. I just think that the Blazers and Roy will get better next year.

[Millennium X]

Whats wrong with Roy? All I am saying is that he will have a better year than Kobe. Is that really a reach, just one year? I am not bashing him at all, no hating. I just think that the Blazers and Roy will get better next year.
Yes it is a reach. A ridiculous and hilarious prediction that I would only expect a blazer fan to make.

You really expect to say that Brandon Roy will be the best player in the western conference next season especially after what Kobe just did, and think you won't be called out on it?

Roy will get better sure and Kobe may get worse, but Kobe's still so far ahead of Roy that it doesn't matter.

Kobe, Wade, LeBron, those guys are by far better than any others.

Let's just wait until Roy makes it past the first round before comparing him to Kobe. Or maybe wait until most people would rather have him than players like Dirk, Yao, Deron Williams, CP3, Melo.

[BallersTalk]

Nah man it's clear you are a closet blazer fan or just a really big fan of Roy. I'm also not a Kobe/Lakers fan but I'm not dumb enough to think that Roy was either more athletic than Kobe in his prime (and I even doubt now he is), or that he'll ever be as good as Kobe. To say that Roy will ever be on the same level as Kobe is just stupid man, get real. Nobody thinks Roy will be that good when he's barely top 10 in the league right now
Again, I could care less about the Blazers. Why do I have to be a fan of the team to give a player any praises? I'm an objective BASKETBALL fan. I call it how I see it. I watched Kobe his whole career. Even in his prime, he didn't blow people out of the water athletically. He wasn't anywhere near the level of Vince, T-Mac, MJ, or LeBron in terms of sheer athleticism. Brandon Roy is definitely more athletic. He doesn't show it often because that's his game. He's methodical and plays half-court basketball.
Roy also has the skills to be the premier SG of the league. I don't know why you think Kobe's this untouchable player. There's only one untouchable player ever at SG and that's Jordan.

[Millennium X]

Again, I could care less about the Blazers. Why do I have to be a fan of the team to give a player any praises? I'm an objective BASKETBALL fan. I call it how I see it. I watched Kobe his whole career. Even in his prime, he didn't blow people out of the water athletically. He wasn't anywhere near the level of Vince, T-Mac, MJ, or LeBron in terms of sheer athleticism. Brandon Roy is definitely more athletic. He doesn't show it often because that's his game. He's methodical and plays half-court basketball.
Roy also has the skills to be the premier SG of the league. I don't know why you think Kobe's this untouchable player. There's only one untouchable player ever at SG and that's Jordan.
Yeah well Vince, MJ, LeBron are basically outliers in terms of athleticism. It's dumb to say that Kobe wasn't a freak in his early years just cus he wasn't as athletic as them. And it's even dumber to say that Brandon freaking Roy will ever be the athlete or player Kobe is. I agree that Roy is an underrated athlete but he's not as explosive as Kobe. Man you probably don't watch any basketball at all to say that Roy can be better than Kobe:lol

And yeah I agree that MJ is the only untouchable player but you should realize that Kobe's second on the list of SGs. Only SG better was Jordan.

Dude, you think Brandon Roy of all people will be like a top 2 player all time at his position hahahaha.

Sorry man, I know you're a Blazer fan and all and I like many of their players too (including Roy) but this is just taking it too far. Roy's a really really good player not an all time great like Kobe. He'll never be as good.

[DKLaker]

Brandon Roy????? WTF has he accomplished????
No Rings, No Season MVP, No All-Star Game MVP, No Finals MVP, No 2nd Round, No First Team NBA Award, NO 81 point game........Is this really a conversation or a wish that he could be in Kobe's league.
Roy's career high is 52 points.....nice....Kobe had 62 in 3 quarters and sat out the entire 4th. Kobe has 25 50 point games including 4 in a row.
I like Roy's game a lot, but let him do SOMETHING before we even discuss him.

[blinp]

Brandon Roy????? WTF has he accomplished????
No Rings, No Season MVP, No All-Star Game MVP, No Finals MVP, No 2nd Round, No First Team NBA Award, NO 81 point game........Is this really a conversation or a wish that he could be in Kobe's league.
Roy's career high is 52 points.....nice....Kobe had 62 in 3 quarters and sat out the entire 4th. Kobe has 25 50 point games including 4 in a row.
I like Roy's game a lot, but let him do SOMETHING before we even discuss him.
Put other things aside, what does freaking RINGS have to do with anything?
It's like saying Sun Yue>Yao Ming base on that logic. But I do agree Roy is way overrated as of now.

[-King-]

PG:

1. Chris Paul
2. Chauncey Billups
3. Deron Williams
4. Derrick Rose
5. Tony Parker

SG:

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Joe Johnson
4. Brandon Roy
5. Ray Allen

SF:

1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Kevin Durant
5. Danny Granger

PF:

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Chris Bosh
5. Amare Stoudemire

C:

1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Shaq O'Neal
4. Al Jefferson
5. Nene

[ABAZACKSHOOLA]

Insdiehoops, I want to ask you to do one thing as the admin ofthis forum: Delete my thread, all of my threads and posts.

yours, ABAZACKSHOOLA

[terp954]

How are so many of you leaving Artest out of your top 5 sf...how can some of you really have Andre Iggy ahead of Artest..he is not better then him on offense or defense.

[phoenix18]

Brandon Roy????? WTF has he accomplished????
No Rings, No Season MVP, No All-Star Game MVP, No Finals MVP, No 2nd Round, No First Team NBA Award, NO 81 point game........Is this really a conversation or a wish that he could be in Kobe's league.
Roy's career high is 52 points.....nice....Kobe had 62 in 3 quarters and sat out the entire 4th. Kobe has 25 50 point games including 4 in a row.
I like Roy's game a lot, but let him do SOMETHING before we even discuss him.
We are not talking career wise, but next season. The question is who will have a better season next year? I put Wade and Roy ahead of Kobe which is understandable.

[Carbine]

How can people put Bosh over KG or Duncan? That is inexcusable from a fan' perspective.... unless you're a biases, uneducated one who doesn't really care for basketball all that much - otherwise, it's a slap in the face to the true fans to put Bosh as the best power forward in the game.

Really, what the **** is this ****?

:confusedshrug:

[triangleoffense]

My top 5: My determinant for the greatness of a player is based solely on championship pedigree and playoff production. Super mega stars are an small exception.

PG:
1. Chris Paul
2. Tony Parker
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Rajon Rondo
5. Steve Nash

SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. MANUUU
4. Brandon Roy
5. Vince Carter

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Dirk (yes I consider him a SF, he is a joke at PF, 0 postup game and his favorite shot is the 3, he is a disgusting character)
5. Ron Artest

PF
1. Duncan
2. Pau
3. KG
4. Stoudamire
5. BOSH

Center
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. David Lee
4. Okafur
5. Bynum

^ This is the legit top 5 positions, all those kids who think Dirk is #1 PF = LOL

[phoenix18]

SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. MANUUU
4. Brandon Roy
5. Vince Carter

WTF? Kobe wasnt even the best SG this year and why is brandon roy number four and Joe Johnson isnt even on the list. This is a debacle. List Denied.

[D-Rose]

WTF? Kobe wasnt even the best SG this year and why is brandon roy number four and Joe Johnson isnt even on the list. This is a debacle. List Denied.
That's arguable honestly. Wade had a better year, but the thread title is not "Who had the better year at each position".

If Kobe had as crappy teammates, he'd have the Same stats (look at 50-06 and 06-07).

[phoenix18]

That's arguable honestly. Wade had a better year, but the thread title is not "Who had the better year at each position".

If Kobe had as crappy teammates, he'd have the Same stats (look at 50-06 and 06-07).
:roll: :roll: Kobe has been playing that long? Wow. Dude is durable. Top 5 SG's in the game and Brandon Roy is fourth to Manu? Joe Johnson is not on the list? Not gonna fly. Also, correct me if I am wrong, didnt wade create 50%+ of his teams offense? That's is why I put him ahead of Kobe.

[D-Rose]

:roll: :roll: Kobe has been playing that long? Wow. Dude is durable. Top 5 SG's in the game and Brandon Roy is fourth to Manu? Joe Johnson is not on the list? Not gonna fly. Also, correct me if I am wrong, didnt wade create 50%+ of his teams offense? That's is why I put him ahead of Kobe.
Typo lmao.

I don't have a problem at all with Wade being ahead of Kobe on a list. But to say it's not even debateable is pathetic. You said "WTF? Kobe wasnt even the best SG this year"

That list obviously isn't the best one out there :lol

[phoenix18]

Typo lmao.

I don't have a problem at all with Wade being ahead of Kobe on a list. But to say it's not even debateable is pathetic. You said "WTF? Kobe wasnt even the best SG this year"

That list obviously isn't the best one out there :lol
I came out too strong. My bad. I apologize to everyone I offended. Kobe and Wade is a 1a,1b type thing this year. I really think that Roy will join those two as the premiere SG's. That was a funny ass typo though.

[ShaqAttack3234]

PG
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Chauncey Billups
4.Tony Parker
5.Steve Nash

SG
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwyane Wade
3.Brandon Roy
4.Vince Carter
5.Joe Johnson

SF
1.Lebron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Kevin Durant
5.Danny Granger

PF
1.Dirk Nowitzki
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Amare Stoudemire
4.Chris Bosh
5.Al Jefferson

C
1.Dwight Howard
2.Tim Duncan
3.Yao Ming
4.Pau Gasol
5.Shaquille O'Neal

[D-Rose]

You mind telling me what Duncan has over Yao but what he doesn't have over Dwight? :confusedshrug:
Good health.

[D-Rose]

Yeah your right you idiot, that's why Duncan has yet to be healthy in the past 3 years, they weren't big injuries like Yao, but he doesn't have good health you idiot.
Duncan has better health than Yao. Dwight has better health than both. idiot. :oldlol:

[ShaqAttack3234]

You mind telling me what Duncan has over Yao but what he doesn't have over Dwight? :confusedshrug:

Duncan is better than Dwight at many aspects of the game as well but Dwight at this point dominates the game with his shot blocking and rebounding while scoring more on a higher % than Yao or Duncan(not saying Dwight's better offensively but due to athleticism he gets more points). Dwight easily leads the league in rebounding and blocks with nobody really challenging him for the lead while being high up in FG%(considerably higher than Duncan or Yao). Howard also had more team success than either last season.

Duncan is better than Yao statistically and he's a better defensive player and passer.

[D-Rose]

Yeah, but you said Duncan has good health which he doesn't you idiot.
You asked what does Duncan have over Yao but doesn't over Dwight...

Duncan has better health than Yao

Dwight has better health than Duncan

It's pretty simple idiot :oldlol:

[D-Rose]

Sorry, but Duncan is better than both of them easily. and Yao is better htan Dwight. You are dead wrong this time and we can debate on AIM all day long if you are serious.

Yeah you are still an idiot. scola>bosh.
What a loser :oldlol:

Yess Scola>>>>>Bosh

LBJ + Scola = 2011 CHAMPIONS

:oldlol: :rolleyes:

[depletedW]

Dwight > Yao.

Bye.

:D

[Nanners]

Sorry, but Duncan is better than both of them easily. and Yao is better htan Dwight. You are dead wrong this time and we can debate on AIM all day long if you are serious.

Yeah you are still an idiot. scola>bosh.

Who wouldnt want to debate Yao vs Dwight with this clown all day long on aim? By the way it's not considered a debate when one side refuses to listen to logic and reason.

[RocketGreatness]

Duncan is better than Dwight at many aspects of the game as well but Dwight at this point dominates the game with his shot blocking and rebounding while scoring more on a higher % than Yao or Duncan(not saying Dwight's better offensively but due to athleticism he gets more points). Dwight easily leads the league in rebounding and blocks with nobody really challenging him for the lead while being high up in FG%(considerably higher than Duncan or Yao). Howard also had more team success than either last season.

Duncan is better than Yao statistically and he's a better defensive player and passer.
Sorry, but Duncan is better than both of them easily. and Yao is better htan Dwight. You are dead wrong this time and we can debate on AIM all day long if you are serious.


RocketGreatness, don't tell me that you are actually going to argue that Yao > Duncan. I know you have a Yao Ming fetish, but damn.
I said Duncan>Both. If you can read.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Yao and Duncan just didn't seem to dominate games the way Dwight did last season. Maybe due to injuries for both, but regardless based on what I saw last season Dwight seemed to be more dominant at this point.

[Atomic DOG]

Point guards:

1. Ricky Rubio
2. Chris Paul
3. Deron Williams

hah, just kidding.

Point guards:

1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Baron Davis (comeback year baby)
5. Tony Parker

Shooting guards:

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dweyeaine Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Vinsanity

Small Forwards:

1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Hedo Turkoglue
4. Shane Battier (defense wins 'chips)
5. Marshemellow Anthony

Power Forwards:

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnet
3. Pau Gasol
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Al Jefferzon

Centers:

1. Dwight Howard
2. Ow Ming

[triangleoffense]

WTF? Kobe wasnt even the best SG this year and why is brandon roy number four and Joe Johnson isnt even on the list. This is a debacle. List Denied.

haha looks like someone is a little butt hurt that Kobe has 4 rings and roy has 0. Notice how I didn't even capitalize his name. Also I think you should maybe learn how to read english before you even start to criticize anyone.

I said:
My determinant for the greatness of a player is based solely on championship pedigree and playoff production.

Don't come back now, ya hear? lol redneck south boy pissed

[phoenix18]

haha looks like someone is a little butt hurt that Kobe has 4 rings and roy has 0. Notice how I didn't even capitalize his name. Also I think you should maybe learn how to read english before you even start to criticize anyone.

I said:

Don't come back now, ya hear? lol redneck south boy pissed
Dont misquote me, jackass. Go back and read the thread.

[triangleoffense]

Dont misquote me, jackass. Go back and read the thread.

lol looks like someone edited his last post

have fun cheering for the Hawks next season, ROFL

[phoenix18]

lol looks like someone edited his last post

have fun cheering for the Hawks next season, ROFL
Dude, I am not a redneck. I am not from the South. I have only been living in georgia for a little over a year. Secondly, I am a raptors fan. Also, I didnt edit my post. Is being wrong your hobby?

[haji_d_robertas]

Point Guard

1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Rajon Rondo
4. Tony Parker
5. Steve Nash
6. Derrick Rose

Shooting Guard

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Kevin Martin
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Ray Allen
5. Brandon Roy
6. Allen Iverson

Small Forward

1. LeBron James
2. Hedo Turkoglu
3. Paul Pierce
4. Lamar Odom
5. Andre Igoudala
6. Carmelo Anthony

Power Forward

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Pau Gasol
4. David West
5. Amare Stoudemire
6. David Lee

Center

1. Dwight Howard
2. Al Jefferson
3. Shaquille O'Neal
4. Andrew Bynum
5. Tyson Chandler
6. Greg Oden

[oballers4life]

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Gilbert Arenas
4. Tony Parker
5. Chauncey Billups
________________
8. Jameer Nelson

SG
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Vince Carter
5. Joe Johnson

SF
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Paul Pierce
5. Danny Granger
______________
7. Hedo Turkoglu

PF
1. Tim Duncan
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Chris Bosh
5. Carlos Boozer
_____________
10. Rashard Lewis

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming (HEALTHY)
3. Al Jefferson
4. David Lee
5. Shaquille O'Neal

Wow the Magic have a great line-up!

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Power Forward

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Pau Gasol
4. David West
5. Amare Stoudemire
6. David Lee

You are seriously putting David Lee ahead of Dirk?

**shakes head** Dirk is the Rodney Dangerfield of insidehoops....

[phoenix18]

You are seriously putting David Lee ahead of Dirk?

**shakes head** Dirk is the Rodney Dangerfield of insidehoops....
Thats just idiotic. Wow.:eek: David Lee above dirk?

[Maniak]

haji d roberts, you really dont know what you're talking about, do you?

[Mr Know It All]

You are seriously putting David Lee ahead of Dirk?

**shakes head** Dirk is the Rodney Dangerfield of insidehoops....

He put Kevin Martin over Wade. He's a moron.

[ktj1212]

top five at each position, going into '09-'10 season:

Centers: 1) Howard 2) S. O'neal 3) Yao (if he plays), 5) Nene

Point Guards: 1) Paul 2) Rondo 3) D. Williams 4) Kidd 5) Nash

Two Guards: 1) Wade 2) Bryant 3) Roy 4) R. Allen 5) B. Gordon

Power Forwards: 1) Staudemire 2) Garnett 3) Boozer 4) Duncan 5) D. West

Quick Forwards: 1) L. James 2) C. Anthony 3) Pierce 4) Nowitzki 5) Bosh

[magnax1]

point
1-D-Will/CP3
2-Rondo
3-Jose Calderon (ingored and under rated)
4-Nash
5-Kidd
Shooting Guard
1-Kobe
2- Wade (some how I forgot him)
3-B Roy
4-Manu Ginobili
5- Iguodala(Sf or SG?)/ Joe johnson
Small Forward-
1-LBJ
2-Pierce
3-VC (once again SG or SF?)
4-Turkoglu
5-Carmelo
Power Forward-
1- Tim Duncan
2- Bosh
3-Stoudamire
4- Garnett
5- Boozer/Nowitzki
Center
1-Yao
2-Dwight
3-Al jefferson
4-Marcus Camby
5-Shaq/Lopez/Sheed

[oballers4life]

top five at each position, going into '09-'10 season:

Centers: 1) Howard 2) S. O'neal 3) Yao (if he plays), 5) Nene

Point Guards: 1) Paul 2) Rondo 3) D. Williams 4) Kidd 5) Nash

Two Guards: 1) Wade 2) Bryant 3) Roy 4) R. Allen 5) B. Gordon

Power Forwards: 1) Staudemire 2) Garnett 3) Boozer 4) Duncan 5) D. West

Quick Forwards: 1) L. James 2) C. Anthony 3) Pierce 4) Nowitzki 5) Bosh

nene#5? rondo#2? kidd#4? duncan #4? bryant #2? quick forwards?

WTF

[Papaya Petee]

bryant #2?

WTF

Wade > Kobe

[haji_d_robertas]

You are seriously putting David Lee ahead of Dirk?

**shakes head** Dirk is the Rodney Dangerfield of insidehoops....

Yeah, so what? It's just a speculative list. You make your list, I'll make mine.

[haji_d_robertas]

He put Kevin Martin over Wade. He's a moron.

What if Wade goes down with another injury?

[unknown101]

PG:
CP3
Dwill
Tony Parker
Rondo
Rose

SG:
Wade
Kobe
Roy
Joe Johnson
VC

SF:
Lebron
Melo
Durant
Granger
Pierce

PF:
Tim Duncan
Dirk
KG
Bosh
Amare

C:
Dwight
Yao ( If he was playing I would have put him at 1)
Shaq
Jefferson
Bynum

[shighkin]

Point Guard:
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Rajon Rondo
4. Tony Parker
5. Chauncey Billups
6. Devin Harris
7. Steve Nash
8. Jason Kidd
9. Jameer Nelson

Shooting Guard
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson

Small Forward:
1. Lebron James
2. Carmello Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Paul Pierce
5. Danny Granger
6. Andre Igoudala

Power Forward:
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Amare Stoudemire
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Chris Bosh
6. LaMarcus Alrdidge

Center:
1. Dwight Howard
2. Shaq
3. Tyson Chandler
4. Andrew Bynum
5. Al Jefferson
6. Greg Oden since I think he'll learn to stay out of foul trouble his second year, he's a beast when he doesn't get in trouble

Obviously Yao would be on the center list but that's not happening now.

[oballers4life]

why do u people keep overrating rondo?

[Copperhead]

Center:
1. Dwight Howard
2. Shaq
3. Tyson Chandler
4. Andrew Bynum
5. Al Jefferson
6. Greg Oden since I think he'll learn to stay out of foul trouble his second year, he's a beast when he doesn't get in trouble

Obviously Yao would be on the center list but that's not happening now.

Tyson Chandler is not a top 3 Center.

[MMM]

why do u people keep overrating rondo?

I personally don't have him higher then 4 but after how criminally underrated he has been over the season I don't mind that a few people are going a bit overboard. People talk about how fortunate he is to play with the Big 3 but why is the fact that he creates so many east/good looks for them not talked about. Overall I think people are starting to realize that the argument of playing with 3 HOF'ers doesn't stand up to reality when you take into account what he did with Pierce/Allen/Perk(a non offensive player)/Baby and not much else for 3 months. People are realizing Boston isn't best suited to his game and despite all that and his huge flaw in his game he is still one of the better pg's in the game. At the same time it is crazy for people to put him over Billups, Parker and Deron but it is becoming more crazy for people to not have him in the top 10 or to say he would be a scrub in a different situation as many claimed over the season.

[haji_d_robertas]

I personally don't have him higher then 4 but after how criminally underrated he has been over the season I don't mind that a few people are going a bit overboard. People talk about how fortunate he is to play with the Big 3 but why is the fact that he creates so many east/good looks for them not talked about. Overall I think people are starting to realize that the argument of playing with 3 HOF'ers doesn't stand up to reality when you take into account what he did with Pierce/Allen/Perk(a non offensive player)/Baby and not much else for 3 months. People are realizing Boston isn't best suited to his game and despite all that and his huge flaw in his game he is still one of the better pg's in the game. At the same time it is crazy for people to put him over Billups, Parker and Deron but it is becoming more crazy for people to not have him in the top 10 or to say he would be a scrub in a different situation as many claimed over the season.

This is the truth. Good post.

[unknown101]

Rondo went from one of the most underrated players to the most overrated players.

Funny what can happen in a couple playoff series.
But I aint gonna lie he was amazing in that Chicago series

[triangleoffense]

why do u people keep overrating rondo?

he had 4 (or 3) triple doubles in the playoffs, almost averaged one in fact. Also had 3 triple doubles in one playoff series.

[triangleoffense]

What if Wade goes down with another injury?

What if Kevin Market contracts SARS?

[haji_d_robertas]

What if Kevin Market contracts SARS?

What's your point?

[zay_24]

PG
CP3
Derek Fisher
D Williams
Derrick Rose
Parker

SG
Kobe
Wade
Durant
Roy
Iggy

SF
Lebron
Melo
Pierce
Granger
Hedu

PF
Duncan
Gasol
KG
Bosh
Dirk

C
Howard
Yao
Shaq
Bynum
Al

[raiderfan19]

You are seriously putting David Lee ahead of Dirk?

**shakes head** Dirk is the Rodney Dangerfield of insidehoops....
theres really not all that valid of an argument for putting ANY pf besides maybe duncan over dirk at this point. I dont agree with it and i dont think hes a pf but i could kinda understand putting duncan above him. Aside from that it takes some serious mental gymnastics or a serious lack of a clue to rank kg, bosh, amare or gasol who have all gotten quite a few votes ahead of dirk at this point. Dirk just goes out and puts up his 25 and 9 years in and year out and generally makes at least the second round of the playoffs.

[CosaNostra]

What if Wade goes down with another injury?
Kevin Martin has missed more games to injury than Wade in the last 2 years, so I'm not sure where you're going with this. Martin is a good scorer, but that's really his only strength, and Wade beats him out at even that, and Wade's superiority on defense makes it a laughable comparison.


PG
CP3
Derek Fisher
D Williams
Derrick Rose
Parker

wow dude... I'm a Lakers fan and all, but do you care to elaborate on how in the world you figure Fish to be the second best PG in the NBA?

[ForceOfNature]

C:
Dwight Howard
Yao Ming
Al Jefferson
Shaquille O'Neal
Tyson Chandler

PF:
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Pau Gasol
Chris Bosh

SF:
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Paul Pierce
Danny Granger

SG:
Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Brandon Roy
Manu Ginobili
Joe Johnson

PG:
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Chauncey Billups
Tony Parker
Derrick Rose

[josh99]

The real list.

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Devin Harris

SG
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginuboli
5. Joe Johnson

SF
1. Lebron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Kevin Durant
5. Danny Granger

PF
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Dirk Nowtizki
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Chris Bosh

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaquille O'neal
5. Andrew Bynum

The center position is really sad...

[haji_d_robertas]

Kevin Martin has missed more games to injury than Wade in the last 2 years, so I'm not sure where you're going with this. Martin is a good scorer, but that's really his only strength, and Wade beats him out at even that, and Wade's superiority on defense makes it a laughable comparison.


To help me get started, post who you say the top 5-7 players are at each position in the NBA, for the 2009-10 season. Again, make it for next season.

The point of the excercise is to make predictions for next season, not to compare players based on past performance. If I think Kevin Martin will have a breakout season next year and Dirk Nowitzki's game will fall off a bit, that's my take. I may very well be wrong, but these kind of things are speculative and just for entertainment's sake anyway. So what is the big deal?

[BMOGEFan]

C
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Al Jefferson
4. Shaquille O'neal
5. Nene
6. Zydrunas Ilgauskas
7. Memet Okur

[phoenix18]

The point of the excercise is to make predictions for next season, not to compare players based on past performance. If I think Kevin Martin will have a breakout season next year and Dirk Nowitzki's game will fall off a bit, that's my take. I may very well be wrong, but these kind of things are speculative and just for entertainment's sake anyway. So what is the big deal?
I thought I was the only one that saw that. When I put Wade over Kobe, people kept calling me out.

[zay_24]

Kevin Martin has missed more games to injury than Wade in the last 2 years, so I'm not sure where you're going with this. Martin is a good scorer, but that's really his only strength, and Wade beats him out at even that, and Wade's superiority on defense makes it a laughable comparison.


wow dude... I'm a Lakers fan and all, but do you care to elaborate on how in the world you figure Fish to be the second best PG in the NBA?
Acutally that was a mistake I really have him at first.

[Rashard]

Point Guard
1.)Deron Williams
2.)Chris Paul
3.)Tony Parker
4.)Chauncey Billups
5.)Steve Nash

Shooting Guard
1.)Kobe Bryant
2.)Dwayne Wade
3.)Joe Johnson
4.)Brandon Roy
5.)Vince Carter

Small Forward
1.)Lebron James
2.)Carmelo Anthony
3.)Paul Pierce
4.)Danny Granger
5.)Kevin Durant

Power Forward
1.)Tim Duncan
2.)Kevin Garnett
3.)Pau Gasol
4.)Dirk Nowitski
5.)Amare Stoudemire

Center
1.)Dwight Howard
2.)Yao Ming
3.)Shaquille O'neal
4.)Andrew Bynum
5.)Nene

[bteambomber]

With Artest to the Lakers and Shaq to the Cavs it seems to me that all the best players in the NBA are getting pooled together by trades. I don't know if that is the best thing for the league across the board.
See an article about it at http://www.bteambombers.com/ .

I can't wait to see what happens in 2010

[johndeeregreen]

Anyone who has put Kevin Durant or Hedo Turkoglu ahead of Paul Pierce in this thread is a ****ing retard whose posting privileges should be immediately revoked.

[TruthKGRay3412]

Anyone who has put Kevin Durant or Hedo Turkoglu ahead of Paul Pierce in this thread is a ****ing retard whose posting privileges should be immediately revoked.

Hahah,it has to be based more on hate than actually basketball knowledge..atleast I hope it is.

Point Guard
1.)Deron Williams
2.)Chris Paul
3.)Tony Parker
4.)Chauncey Billups
5.)Rajon Rondo

Shooting Guard
1.)Kobe Bryant
2.)Dwayne Wade
3.)Brandon Roy
4.)Manu Ginobili
5.)Joe Johnson

Small Forward
1.)Lebron James
2.)Paul Pierce
3.)Carmelo Anthony
4.)Danny Granger
5.)Kevin Durant

Power Forward
1.)Kevin Garnett
2.)Tim Duncan
3.)Dirk Nowitski
4.)Pau Gasol
5.)Amare Stoudemire

Center
1.)Dwight Howard
2.)Yao Ming
3.)Al Jefferson
4.)Shaquille O'neal
5.)Kendrick Perkins

[MeLO MvP 15]

Point Guard
1.)Chris Paul
2.)Deron Williams
3.)Tony Parker
4.)Chauncey Billups
5.)Rajon Rondo/Devin Harris

Shooting Guard
1.)Kobe Bryant
2.)Dwayne Wade
3.)Brandon Roy
4.)Joe Johnson
5.)Ray Allen

Small Forward
1.)Lebron James
2.)Carmelo Anthony
3.)Kevin Durant
4.)Paul Pierce
5.)Danny Granger

Power Forward
1.)Kevin Garnett
2.)Tim Duncan
3.)Dirk Nowitzki
4.)Pau Gasol
5.)Amare Stoudemire/ David West

Center
1.)Dwight Howard
2.)Al Jefferson
3.)Shaq
4.)Nene
5.)Kendrick Perkins


***Yao and Manu should be on their top 5s but due to injuries were removed, (Al J. and Amare was exception cuz he shud b fine by season start)

[MrUnstopable]

Anyone who has put Kevin Durant or Hedo Turkoglu ahead of Paul Pierce in this thread is a ****ing retard whose posting privileges should be immediately revoked.

co-sign

[sixer6ad]

co-sign

Hedo = non-winner

[Rocker09]

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. D Williams
3. Tony Parker

SG
1. Kobe
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy

SF
1. Lebron
2. Carmelo
3. Paul Pierce

PF
1. Tim Duncan
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. KG

C
1. Dwight
2. Yao
3. Pau

[game385]

These are more so my predictions for the top performers at their position for the upcoming season. Not necessaily the best.

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Tony Parker
5. Jason Kidd

SG
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Vince Carter
5. Manu Ginoboli

SF
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Danny Granger
5. Paul Pierce

PF
1. Pau Gasol
2. Kevin Garnet
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Chris Bosh
5. Carlos Boozer

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Tim Duncan
3. Shaquille O'Neal
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. ?

[dwade83]

kobe on decline d wade on top now!

[heyhey06]

PG
1.CP3
2.Gilbert Arenas
3.Chauncy Billups
4.Deron Williams
5.Jameer Nelson

SG:
1.Dwayne Wade
2.Brandon Roy
3.Kobe Bryant
4.Kevin Durant
5.Joe Johnson

SF:
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Danny Granger
5.Caron Butler

PF:
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Tim Duncan
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Chris Bosh
5. Pau Gasol

C:1 Yao Ming
2 Dwight howard
3 Al Jefferson
4 Shaquille O'Neal
5 Kendrick Perkins

LOL at your top point guards

[heyhey06]

LOL at your top point guards

Dirk is the best PF. LMFAO

[JJ81]

:cheers:

[raiderfan19]

Dirk is the best PF. LMFAO
Uh dirk is the best pf, and to be honest its really not very close. Actually people putting KG on these lists at all is pretty funny. Kg wasnt a top 5 pf last year BEFORE he got hurt. Now hes going to be a top pf AFTER knee surgery????

[heyhey06]

[QUOTE=raiderfan19]Uh dirk is the best pf, and to be honest its really not very close. Actually people putting KG on these lists at all is pretty funny. Kg wasnt a top 5 pf last year BEFORE he got hurt. Now hes going to be a top pf AFTER knee surgery????[/QUOTE

Dirk is much better than Duncan. You know your basketball. If you say he\
is a center you know even less.

[antonioray]

PG:

Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Baron Davis if hes motivated
Derrick Rose
I also expect Iverson to have a big season this year
Same goes for Arenas

SG:

Kobe
Wade
Roy
Tmac if healthy
Joe Johnson

SF:
Lebron
Durant
Carmelo
Granger
Pierce

PF:
KG
Bosh
Duncan
Dirk
Al Jeff

C:
D Howard
Yao(altho hes out for the season)

after that, there really isnt anyone particularly good

[JR The Beast]

PG
1. Paul
2. williams
3. Parker
4. Arenas
5. Harris
6. Billups
7. Nash
8. Rose
9. Rondo
10. Nelson
11. Kidd
12. Miller
13. Calderon
14. Baron
15. Mo will

[truck man]

Point Guards
1) Chris Paul
2) Derron Williams
3) Tony Parker
4) Chaunecy Billups
5) Derrick Rose

Shooting Guard
1) Kobe Bryant
2) Dwanye Wade
3) Joe Johnson
4) Kevin Durant
5) Vince Carter

Small Forward
1) Lebron James
2) Carmello Anthony
3) Danny Granger
4) Kevin Durant
5) Paul Pierce

Power Forward
1) Tim Duncan
2) Kevin Garnett
3) Dirk Nowitzki
4) Amare Stoudamire
5) Chris Bosh

Center
1) Dwight Howard
2) Yao Ming
3) Al Jefferson
4) Shaq
5) Nene

[G.O.A.T]

Just so everyone knows where I stand

Small Forward

1) Lebron James
2) Carmelo Anthony
3) Kevin Durant
4) Paul Pierce
5) Andre Igudola


Power Forward

1) Tim Duncan
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Kevin Garnett
4) Pau Gasol
5) Chris Bosh

Center

1) Dwight Howard
2) Amare Stoudamire
3) Yao Ming
4) Shaquille O'Neal
5) Al Jefferson

Shooting Guards

1) Kobe Bryant
2) Dwayne Wade
3) Brandon Roy
4) Joe Johnson
5) Manu Ginobili

Point Guards

1) Chris Paul
2) Deron Williams
3) Tony Parker
4) Chauncey Billups
5) Derek Rose

[ShaqAttack3234]

Updated list

1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Chauncey Billups
4.Tony Parker
5.Steve Nash

SG
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwyane Wade
3.Brandon Roy
4.Vince Carter
5.Joe Johnson

SF
1.Lebron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Kevin Durant
4.Paul Pierce
5.Danny Granger

PF
1.Dirk Nowitzki
2.Pau Gasol
3.Kevin Garnett
4.Amare Stoudemire
5.Chris Bosh

C
1.Dwight Howard
2.Tim Duncan
3.Shaquille O'Neal
4.Al Jefferson
5.Andrew Bynum

[Wuxia]

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Derek Rose
4. Tony Parker
5. Rajon Rondo

SG
1. Dwayne Wade
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Manu Ginobli

SF
1. Lebron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Danny Granger
5. Rashard Lewis

PF
1. Tim Duncan
2. Pau Gasol
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Chris Bosh
5. Dirk Nowitzki

Center
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Al Jefferson
4. Amare Stoudamire
5. Greg Oden

[CavsLebronMo]

5. Nene
6. Zydrunas Ilgauskas
7. Memet Okur
Fail.

[Quata]

PG:
1: Deron Williams/Chris Paul
2: Deron Williams/Chris Paul
3: Tony Parker
4: Chauncey Billups
5: Steve Nash
SG:
1: Kobe Bryant
2: Dwayne Wade
3: Brandon Roy
4: Manu Ginobili
5: Joe Johnson
SF:
1: Lebron James
2: Carmelo Anthony
3: Paul Pierce
4: Kevin Durant
5: Danny Granger
PF:
1: Dirk Nowitzki/Tim Duncan
2: Dirk Nowitzki/Tim Duncan
3: Pau Gasol/Chris Bosh/Kevin Garnett
4: Pau Gasol/Chris Bosh/Kevin Garnett
5: Pau Gasol/Chris Bosh/Kevin Garnett
C:
1: Dwight Howard
2: Yao Ming
3: Al Jefferson
4: Amare (cause he will probably have to play the 5 this year)
5: Shaq

[Yung D-Will]

PG:
1: Deron Williams/Chris Paul
2: Deron Williams/Chris Paul
3: Tony Parker
4: Chauncey Billups
5: Steve Nash
SG:
1: Kobe Bryant
2: Dwayne Wade
3: Brandon Roy
4: Manu Ginobili
5: Joe Johnson
SF:
1: Lebron James
2: Carmelo Anthony
3: Paul Pierce
4: Kevin Durant
5: Danny Granger
PF:
1: Dirk Nowitzki/Tim Duncan
2: Dirk Nowitzki/Tim Duncan
3: Pau Gasol/Chris Bosh/Kevin Garnett
4: Pau Gasol/Chris Bosh/Kevin Garnett
5: Pau Gasol/Chris Bosh/Kevin Garnett


C:
1: Dwight Howard
2: Yao Ming
3: Al Jefferson
4: Amare (cause he will probably have to play the 5 this year)
5: Shaq
Lmao :violin:

[Yung D-Will]

PG
1. Paul
2. williams
3. Parker
4. Arenas
5. Harris
6. Billups
7. Nash
8. Rose
9. Rondo
10. Nelson
11. Kidd
12. Miller
13. Calderon
14. Baron
15. Mo will


I'm just gonna ask you how you can put Gilbert so high and Baron So low and they've been injured for about the same time.

[blinkbizk87]

PG:
cp3
billups
d-will
arenas ( HOWD ALMOST EVERYONE FORGET BOUT HIM???? )
tony parker

sg:
kobe
wade
roy
vince carter
ray allen

SF:
lebron
pierce
carmelo anthony
durant
toss up between artest/ granger/ rashard lewis

PF:
duncan
garnett
nowitzki
gasol
amare/ bosh/ boozer
*bout to be Blake Griffin in there*

C:
dwight howard
yao ming
shaq
al jefferson
bynum/ camby/ biedrinis

[phoenix18]

For real, how do you have Kobe above Wade? I just want to know why.

[kingchessking]

This is about the Best player of 2009-2010, not all time or later in the future

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron William
3. Tony Parker (The French man Rules)
4. Derrick Rose (nice team, Ben gordon gone means more scoring, maybe an
all-star this year )
5. Chauncey Billups (Great Leadership, Solid Defense, Solid Offense)

SG
1. Kobe Bryant (He's...Kobe)
2. Dwayne Wade (The one-man Wrecking crew)
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginobilli (If Healthy)
5. Joe Johnson

SF
1. LeBron James (The king finally has a post player to pass to)
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Danny Granger
5. Paul Pierce

PF
1. Dirk Nowitzki (Great Shooting)
2. Chris Bosh (Athletic and Good shooting Touch)
3. Tim Duncan (Still Good Fundamental, even if he's aging)
4. Pau Gasol (Another Season With Kobe)
5. Kevin Garnett (Leadership and Defense gets him on the list, but with wallace on the team he will be taking even less shots)

C
1. Dwight Howard (Vengance after final's loss)
2. Yao Ming (If he's even playing next season, and If healthy)
3. Al Jefferson (Great player, but still losing team)
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Shaquille O'neal (Still dominant, and gets to play with LeBron)

[ShoeNut]

Best Players by position in order

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Chauncey Billups
3. Tony Parker
4. Steve Nash
5. Derrick Rose

SG
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Richard Hamilton
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Paul Pierce

SF
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Lamar Odom
4. Rashard Lewis
5. Andre Iguodala

PF
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Carlos Boozer
4. Chris Bosh
5. David West

C
1. Tyson Chandler
2. Yao Ming
3. Dwight Howard
4. Shaquille O'Neal
5. Al Horford

[Yung D-Will]

Best Players by position in order

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Chauncey Billups
3. Tony Parker
4. Steve Nash
5. Derrick Rose

SG
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Richard Hamilton
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Paul Pierce

SF
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Lamar Odom
4. Rashard Lewis
5. Andre Iguodala

PF
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Carlos Boozer
4. Chris Bosh
5. David West

C
1. Tyson Chandler
2. Yao Ming
3. Dwight Howard
4. Shaquille O'Neal
5. Al Horford

Think you might be missing someone? :oldlol:

And I lold my ass off at the Tyson Chandler

[nou1990]

PG:

1. Deron Williams
2. Chris Paul
3. Tony Parker
4. Jason Kidd
5. Steve Nash



SG:

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Michael Redd
5. Joe Johnson
6. Ben Gordon



SF:

1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Hidayet Turkoglu
5. Paul Pierce
6. Andre Igoudala



PF:

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Pau Gasol
5. Amare Stoudemire
6. Al Jefferson
7. Zach Randolph


CE:

1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Mehmet Okur
4. Shaquille O'Neal
5. Nene Hilario
6. Marcus Camby
7. Chris Kaman

[ThatBigBlackGuy]

PG:
1. Paul
2. Williams
3. Parker

SG:
1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Roy

SF:
1. LeBron
2. Pierce
3. Melo

PF:
1. Dork
2. Dumbcan
3. Garnot

C:
1. Shaq
2. Rest

[Nash-tastic]

My Point Guards
5) Steve Nash
- How could I leave out my favourite player? But sad to say he has really fallen off after the run 'n' gun style but hopefully can get his form back next season
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o57/broncs1484/nash-1.jpg
4) Chauncey Billups
- Really showed he can still preform after getting traded to the Nuggets, all he needed was a change of scenery
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/pg325ac/chauncey.jpg
3) Tony Parker
- Nobody can stop this guy when he drives to the hoop already with a Finals MVP and with the new Spurs team loaded he can finally get back to his form
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/Mendoza10/tony.jpg
2) Deron Williams
- He better be an all-star this year, 'nuff said
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l218/TRENDON06/Dwill.jpg
1) Chris Paul
- This guy is officially THE best point guard in the NBA, he court vision and his passing abilities are hard to match. If he continues his high level of play, who knows what he can achieve
http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr303/mikecoop4/117904t41hbe95-1.jpg

[Nash-tastic]

My Shooting Guards
5) Ray Allen
- He can shoot lights out, he's a clutch player and just a cold blooded assassin
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss237/converse1015/ray-allen.jpg
4) Joe Johnson
- Great all around player and able to turn it on any night and I feel he can still get better
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/Rhys_dat_dude3432/joe_johnson_game_4.jpg
3) Brandon Roy
- Only his 3rd year in the league but the cornerstone on the Blazers and he is one of the most clutch player in the league
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/jboogie11_01/brandon-roy1.jpg
2) Dwyane Wade
- The one-man team that destroys the other team just by his skill alone
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/J--0--3--Y/dwyane.jpg
1) Kobe Bryant
- He's Kobe Bryant
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e328/thugsta187/24A.jpg

[Nash-tastic]

My Small Forwards
5) Paul Pierce
- I hate this guy, but it doesn't make him a bad player
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Floor%20Flag%20n%20Jersey/img38_tmp.jpg
4) Danny Granger
- After winning the MIP award, I'm really looking forward to this kid in the next season
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/NBAILoveThisGame/8dd6c7ade01fc73e5ef9c1ce37b61027-ge.jpg
3) Kevin Durant
- Scoring Machine
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s287/jpbball55/durant.jpg
2) Carmelo Anthony
- This guy is the 2nd most complete offensive player today and an underrated clutch player
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/yan2malagu/Carmelo.jpg
1) LeBron James
- King James
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc355/migo_24/4.jpg

[Nash-tastic]

My Power Forwards
5) Chris Bosh
- With the new Raptors team, its this guy's time to shine
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg228/CRYMEtyme2010/bosh-1.jpg
4) Amar'e Stoudemire
- When healthy this guy is one of the most explosive scorers in the league
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm172/Phoenix_Suns_Gallery/8.png
3) Dirk Nowitzki
- Amazing shooter and an underrated playoff performer
http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq144/nessie-monster/dirk_nowitzki2.jpg
2) Kevin Garnett
- When healthy the best post defender in the league
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q468/Lloydcooper21/Kevin%20Granett/pg2_a_garnett_600.jpg
1) Tim Duncan
- The Big Fundamental
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/SPURS4951/tim.jpg

[Nash-tastic]

My Cs
5) Nene
- Underrated player, hustle player and a very good rebounder too
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x33/gpiddy1990/Nene.jpg
4) Al Jefferson
- Best post moves in the NBA
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk281/Sportkid003/basketball/AlJefferson.jpg
3) Shaq
- With the reduced number of quality Cs today, a 36 year old Shaq can still dominate
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w32/TJS_016/Shaq.jpg
2) Yao Ming
- The Great Wall
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/RockiesFan33/Yao.jpg
1) Dwight Howard
- SUPERMAN
http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae290/callum_55/dwight12.jpg

[Yung D-Will]

Cause all the pics were necessary?

[Maniak]

New List

PG
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Tony Parker
4.Chauncey Billups
5.Steve Nash

SG
1.Dwyane Wade
2.Kobe Bryant
3.Brandon Roy
4.Joe Johnson
5.Manu Ginobili

SF
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Danny Granger
4.Paul Pierce
5.Kevin Durant

PF
1.Tim Duncan
2.Dirk Nobricksplease
3.Amar'e Stoudemire
4.Kevin Garnett
5.Chris Bosh
6.Pau Gasol

C
1.Dwight Howard
2.Al Jefferson
3.Nene
4.Shaquille O'Neal
5.Andris Biedrins

[ShaquilleIzzle]

PG:
1. Deron Williams
2. Chris Paul
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Steve Nash

SG:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Paul Pierce
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Danny Granger
5. Kevin Durant

PF:
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Tim Duncan
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Pau Gasol
5. Amare Stoudemire

C:
1. Shaquille O'Neal
2. Yao Ming
3. Dwight Howard
4. Al Jefferson
5. Brook Lopez

[Maga_1]

PG:
1. Chauncey Billups
2. Chris Paul
3. Deron Williams
4. Tony Parker
5. Derrick Rose

SG:
1. Brandon Roy
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Joe Johnson
5. Manu Ginobili

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Paul Pierce
4. Carmelo Anthony
5. Danny Granger

PF:
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Tim Duncan
3. Pau Gasol
4. Kevin Garnett
5. LaMarcus Aldridge

C:
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Shaquille O'Neal
4. Al Jefferson
5. Andrew Bynum

[FinalCountdown]

PG:
1. Paul
2. Williams
3. Parker
4. Billups
5. Rondo

SG:
1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Roy
4. Johnson
5. Manu

SF:
1. LeBron
2. Melo
3. Pierce
4. Granger
5. Durant

PF:
1. Duncan
2. Garnett
3. Dirk
4. Gasol
5. Amare

C:
1. Yao
2. Dwight
3. Jefferson
4. Shaq
5. Perkins

[Maga_1]

Perkins and Rondo? Are you kidding me? :lol

[23jordan23]

I agree with most ppls rankings..but add Danny Granger to all your top 5's for sf's!

[BBallcentral]

PG
1. Deron Williams
2. Tony Parker
3. Chris Paul
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Derrick Rose

SG
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwyane Wade
3.Brandon Roy
4.Joe Johnson
5.Manu Ginobili

SF
1.LeBron James
2.Paul Pierce
3.Carmelo Anthony
4.Danny Granger
5.Kevin Durant

PF
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Dirk Nowtizki
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Chris Bosh

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Shaquille O'neal
3. Nene
4. Al Jefferson
5. Yao Ming

[TruthKGRay3412]

PG
1. CP3
2. Deron Williams
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Rajon Rondo

SG
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwyane Wade
3.Brandon Roy
4.Joe Johnson
5.Ray Allen

SF
1.LeBron James
2.Paul Pierce
3.Carmelo Anthony
4.Kevin Durant
5.Danny Granger

PF
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Dirk Nowtizki
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Chris Bosh

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Al Jefferson
3. Yao (healthy)
4. Shaq
5. Kendrick Perkins

[CatchAndShoot]

PG
1. CP3
2. Deron Williams
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Rajon Rondo

SG
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwyane Wade
3.Brandon Roy
4.Joe Johnson
5.Ray Allen

SF
1.LeBron James
2.Paul Pierce
3.Carmelo Anthony
4.Kevin Durant
5.Danny Granger

PF
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Dirk Nowtizki
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Chris Bosh

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Al Jefferson
3. Yao (healthy)
4. Shaq
5. Kendrick Perkins

Celtics fan? :oldlol:

[TruthKGRay3412]

Celtics fan? :oldlol:

Why would you ask that when my user name is Truth KG Ray and my Location is Boston,MA? and even if I wasnt a Celtics fan i'd still make those my power rankings.

[CatchAndShoot]

Why would you ask that when my user name is Truth KG Ray and my Location is Boston,MA? and even if I wasnt a Celtics fan i'd still make those my power rankings.

It was a joke :ohwell: regardless of your username not hard to tell your Celtics fan :oldlol: . You have all 5 starters for the Celtics in your top 5.

PG: Rondo ..cases can be made for players like Harris\Rose\Nash.
SG: Allen .. cases can be made for Vince Carter\Manu among others.
SF: Peirce .. Melo has a very very strong case.
PF: Garnett was injured half of last year basically so clearly cases can be made for Duncan Dirk.
C: Perk is a solid role player .. so many cases are also here.

And if your taking into account next season then it looks even worse if you look at the players individually. I guess if you take winning over anything else you'd have a case.

[CB4GOATPF]

Should inlcude the CF position

Where it Would Be

1-Tim Duncan
2- Pau Gasol: the reason why the Lakers have finally began winning

[aamcneill]

I posted something on my blog today that is along these lines, though it's not broken down by position. I ranked my Top 25 players in the NBA coming into the season. Check it out and leave a comment if you have something to say.

http://andrewamcneill.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/october-november-power-players-top-25-players-in-the-nba/

[Story Up]

PG
1. CP3
2. Deron Williams
3. Tony Parker
4. Chauncey Billups
5. Rajon Rondo

SG
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwyane Wade
3.Brandon Roy
4.Joe Johnson
5.Ray Allen

SF
1.LeBron James
2.Paul Pierce
3.Carmelo Anthony
4.Kevin Durant
5.Danny Granger

PF
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Dirk Nowtizki
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Chris Bosh

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Al Jefferson
3. Yao (healthy)
4. Shaq
5. Kendrick Perkins

God can you at least try to be neutral?
I love how you include a Celtic player at every position and leave out Andrew Bynum at C and Pau Gasol at PF.

[symbol33]

Can't believe Tmac isn't on anyone's list so far.
He'll surprise everyone next season.

that's really funny even i am a foreigner, are you ****ing kidding

[B-Easy]

To anyone that doesnt have D-Wade as the #1 SG....league pass is only $169 right now, i would recommend investing in it..

[RPT]

Bosh is the #1 PF, and everyone will know it at seasons end.

[DevonMSF]

Hmm.very good rankings. Check out this article:
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/10/are-the-celtics-the-best-team-in-the-nba/

[triangleoffense]

1 Guard:
CP3
Steve Nash
Deron Williams
Chauncy Billups
Rajon Rondo

2 Guards:
Kobe
Wade
Durant
Roy
Allen

SF:
Bron Bron
Melo
Granger
Vinsanity
Pierce

PF:
Duncan
Garnett
Nowitzki
Bosh
Pau

C:
Howard
Jefferson
Okafur
Bynum
Lopez

[Hyman]

How can Stoudemire or Bosh be ranked before Gasol?

[Cork5]

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Tony Parker
4. Gilbert Arenas
5. Chauncey Billups (Good leader)

SG
1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. BRoy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Manu

SF
1. Lebron
2. Melo
3. Danny Granger
4. Paul Pierce
5. Rashard Lewis

PF
1. Tim Duncan
2. Dirk
3. KG
4. Al Jeff
5. Bosh

C
1. Dwight
2. Yao
3. Shaq
4. Nene
5. Greg Oden (if he keeps improving + stays healthy)

[BankShot]

Bosh is the #1 PF, and everyone will know it at seasons end.

Not if you want your PF to play on both sides of the court.

[nev3rh00d]

ill keep it short

cp3
wade
lebron
bosh
howard

and yes I think CB4 is going 2 have a breakthrough season.

[purple32gold]

Cause all the pics were necessary?
i myself am a very visual learner.

[raiderfan19]

the fact that dirk isnt number 1 on this list for pfs let alone a pretty close to consensus number 1 is pretty sad.

[LebrickJames84']

Brandon Jennings

[davo ownz]

Point Guards:
1 Chris Paul
2 Deron Williams
3 Chauncey Billups
4 Tony Parker


Shooting Guards:
1. Kobe Bryant
2 Dwyane Wade
3 Brandon Roy
4 Joe Johnson
5 Vince Carter

Small Forwards
1 LeBron James
2 Carmelo Anthony
3 Kevin Durant
4 Danny Granger
5 Paul Pierce

Power Forwards
1 Tim Duncan
2 Dirk Nowitzki
3 Kevin Garnett
4 Al Jefferson
5 Pau Gasol

Centers
1 Dwight Howard
2 Yao Ming
3 Shaq

[Nash-tastic]

Any list without Brandon Jennings fails

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Any list without Brandon Jennings fails

check your inbox

[SinJackal]

Point Guards:
1 Chris Paul
2 Deron Williams
3 Chauncey Billups
4 Tony Parker


Shooting Guards:
1. Kobe Bryant
2 Dwyane Wade
3 Brandon Roy
4 Joe Johnson
5 Vince Carter

Small Forwards
1 LeBron James
2 Carmelo Anthony
3 Kevin Durant
4 Danny Granger
5 Paul Pierce

Power Forwards
1 Tim Duncan
2 Dirk Nowitzki
3 Kevin Garnett
4 Al Jefferson
5 Pau Gasol

Centers
1 Dwight Howard
2 Yao Ming
3 Shaq


No Chris Bosh or Derrik Rose? tsk tsk

KG > Dirk too. Defense isn't tracked in the stat column.

[DKLaker]

1. CP3
2. D-Will
3. Nash
4. Tony Parker
5. Chauncey
6. Rose
7. Jameer Nelson - Healthy


SG:
1. Kobe
2. D. Wade
3. B-Roy
4. Manu Ginobili - Healthy
5. Joe Johnson
6. Vince Carter
7. OJ Mayo

SF:
1. LeBron
2. Melo
3. Pierce
4. Durant
5. Granger
6. Hedo
7. Artest


PF:
1. Duncan - Healthy
2. KG
3. Gasol
4. Dirk
5. Amare
6. Bosh
7. Boozer

C:
1. Dwight
2. Big Al
3. Bynum
4. Nene
5. Brook Lopez

Yao may never come back, Shaq's not even the best Center on his own team now.
Brandon Jennings needs to play at least half a season before being put on anything other than a rookie list......but yeah he looks very very good now.

[kat]

Point Guards:
1 Chauncey Billups
2 Chris Paul
3 Steve Nash
4 Tony Parker
5.Jason Kidd

Shooting Guards:
1. Kobe Bryant (no matter how much i hate him he is the best..)
2 Dwyane Wade
3 Ray Allen
4 Joe Johnson
5 Manu Ginobili

Small Forwards
1 Carmelo Anthony
2 Lebron James (needs to get some balls and accept a loss like a man!)
3 Kevin Durant
4 Danny Granger
5 Tayshaun Prince

Power Forwards
1 Tim Duncan (just ask Charles Barkley)
2 Kevin Garnett
3 Chris Bosh
4 Pau Gasol
5 Carlos Boozer

Centers
1 Dwight Howard
2 Shaq (would have been #1 but he is not the same player than he was before)
3 Yao Ming
4/5 whoever else is a center.....

*note: im not a nuggets fan, i just think billups and melo got game and thats why they're #1 in their positions...

[tsforthrees]

Point Guards:
1 Chauncey Billups
2 Chris Paul
3 Steve Nash
4 Tony Parker
5.Jason Kidd

Shooting Guards:
1. Kobe Bryant (no matter how much i hate him he is the best..)
2 Dwyane Wade
3 Ray Allen
4 Joe Johnson
5 Manu Ginobili

Small Forwards
1 Carmelo Anthony
2 Lebron James (needs to get some balls and accept a loss like a man!)
3 Kevin Durant
4 Danny Granger
5 Tayshaun Prince

Power Forwards
1 Tim Duncan (just ask Charles Barkley)
2 Kevin Garnett
3 Chris Bosh
4 Pau Gasol
5 Carlos Boozer

Centers
1 Dwight Howard
2 Shaq (would have been #1 but he is not the same player than he was before)
3 Yao Ming
4/5 whoever else is a center.....

*note: im not a nuggets fan, i just think billups and melo got game and thats why they're #1 in their positions...

:ohwell:

[ACCBaller1403]

Point Guards:
1 Chauncey Billups
2 Chris Paul
3 Steve Nash
4 Tony Parker
5.Jason Kidd

Shooting Guards:
1. Kobe Bryant (no matter how much i hate him he is the best..)
2 Dwyane Wade
3 Ray Allen
4 Joe Johnson
5 Manu Ginobili

Small Forwards
1 Carmelo Anthony
2 Lebron James (needs to get some balls and accept a loss like a man!)
3 Kevin Durant
4 Danny Granger
5 Tayshaun Prince

Power Forwards
1 Tim Duncan (just ask Charles Barkley)
2 Kevin Garnett
3 Chris Bosh
4 Pau Gasol
5 Carlos Boozer

Centers
1 Dwight Howard
2 Shaq (would have been #1 but he is not the same player than he was before)
3 Yao Ming
4/5 whoever else is a center.....

*note: im not a nuggets fan, i just think billups and melo got game and thats why they're #1 in their positions...

Dirk?

Chauncey and Melo may have game but they sure as hell aren't the best at either of their positions.

[dkmwise]

How is Nash not on so many of these lists. He is averaging 11 assists per game, more than anyone else in the league and his team is 15-7

[Andrei89]

PG:
1. Steve Nash
2. Derek Fisher
3. Chris Paul
4. Mario Chalmers
5. Derick Rose

SG:
1. Dwayne Wade
2. Allen iverson
3. kobe Bryant
4. Tracy Mcgrady
5. Kevin Martin

SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Luol Deng
5. Andre Iguodala

PF
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Michael Beasley
4. Chris Bosh
5. Anderson Varej

[Diesel J]

Dirk?

Chauncey and Melo may have game but they sure as hell aren't the best at either of their positions.


:lol

[Yung D-Will]

Point Guards:
1 Chauncey Billups
2 Chris Paul
3 Steve Nash
4 Tony Parker
5.Jason Kidd

Shooting Guards:
1. Kobe Bryant (no matter how much i hate him he is the best..)
2 Dwyane Wade
3 Ray Allen
4 Joe Johnson
5 Manu Ginobili

Small Forwards
1 Carmelo Anthony
2 Lebron James (needs to get some balls and accept a loss like a man!)
3 Kevin Durant
4 Danny Granger
5 Tayshaun Prince

Power Forwards
1 Tim Duncan (just ask Charles Barkley)
2 Kevin Garnett
3 Chris Bosh
4 Pau Gasol
5 Carlos Boozer

Centers
1 Dwight Howard
2 Shaq (would have been #1 but he is not the same player than he was before)
3 Yao Ming
4/5 whoever else is a center.....

*note: im not a nuggets fan, i just think billups and melo got game and thats why they're #1 in their positions...
Deron lols at your list :oldlol:

[Bigsmoke]

Point Guards:
1 CP3
2 Deron Williams
3 Steve Nash
4 Chauncey Billups
5.Rondo

Shooting Guards:
1. Kobe Bryant
2 Dwyane Wade
3 Roy
4 Joe Johnson
5 Ray Allen

Small Forwards
1.Lebron
2.Melo
3.THe Truth
4.Kevin Durant
5.Granger

Power Forwards
1 Dirk
2 Tim Duncan
3 Pau Gasol
4 Chris Bosh
5 KG


Centers
1.Dwight
2.Bynum
3.Brook Lopez
4.Andrew Bogut
5. Greg Oden?

[ACCBaller1403]

Seriously people, are you all just forgetting about Dirk or actively keeping him off of your lists? This guy is criminally underrated if people think Boozer is better than him.

[ACCBaller1403]

:lol


What's so funny about that? Who in their right mind would rank Chauncey above CP3 or Deron? Nash, Parker, and others are also in the conversation around Chauncey.

Melo has never been and, barring injury, mental breakdown, or alien abduction, will never be as good as Lebron is currently. At best he's in his rightful spot at number 2.

[Skywalker]

off top of head

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Steve Nash
3. Deron Williams
4. Baron Davis
5. Gilbert Arenas

SG
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Brandon Roy
4. Joe Johnson
5. Monta Ellis

SF
1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Kevin Durant
4. Danny Granger
5. Paul Pierce

PF
1. Chris Bosh
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Pau Gasol
4. Carlos Boozer
5. Antawn Jamison

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Tim Duncan
4. Brook Lopez
5. Amare Stoudemire

[Maggot]

funny how almost nobody puts Bogut in the top 5.
the bucks are 11-11, with him being a very important piece (they were 1-4 without him) and he already owned perkins, lopez, nene, noah, al jefferson, david lee and he will own Duncan when the spurs play in milwaukee like he always did

and putting harris over jennings is stupid
the nets are 2-17 (or whatever their record is) having top 5 players on the most important positions, pg and C ?

[Yung D-Will]

funny how almost nobody puts Bogut in the top 5.
the bucks are 11-11, with him being a very important piece (they were 1-4 without him) and he already owned perkins, lopez, nene, noah, al jefferson, david lee and he will own Duncan when the spurs play in milwaukee like he always did

and putting harris over jennings is stupid
the nets are 2-17 (or whatever their record is) having top 5 players on the most important positions, pg and C ?

Guy Harris > Jennings skill wise record will never change that. Stop overrating the young fella

[Maggot]

Guy Harris > Jennings skill wise record will never change that. Stop overrating the young fella

and CP3 > D-will
you are just scared that BJ will be better than your d-will in 1-2 years

[mrpibb]

and CP3 > D-will
you are just scared that BJ will be better than your d-will in 1-2 years

Getting defensive, aren't we?