PDA

View Full Version : Trevor Ariza to sign with the Rockets



hotsizzle
07-02-2009, 10:05 PM
Trevor Ariza has made a verbal commitment to sign with the Houston Rockets, according to sources close to the process.

The 6-foot-8 Ariza averaged 8.9 points, 4.3 rebounds and 1.8 assists for the Lakers last season, which ended with the NBA championship.

With at least five teams pursuing Ariza, the Lakers appeared unwilling to pay him more than the $5.6 million mid-level exception.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303862

LA_Showtime
07-02-2009, 10:06 PM
Thanks for everything Trevor! I hope your basketball career takes off in Houston.

Why didn't he sign with the Cavaliers?

chitownsfinest
07-02-2009, 10:06 PM
:lol Cavs get screwed again

D-Rose
07-02-2009, 10:07 PM
So he got MLE basically...man he should fire his dumbass agent...

Good luck in Houston Trev...hope they get a bettter team for you by 2010...

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-02-2009, 10:07 PM
i LOVE it.

...it means that he did NOT go to a contending team (Magic, Cavs, etc)

that's good sh!t right there!

PleezeBelieve
07-02-2009, 10:07 PM
LeBron has certainly been a fine FA recruiter for Cle, hasn't he?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

darius15
07-02-2009, 10:07 PM
LOL at Cleveland:lol

ElPigto
07-02-2009, 10:07 PM
Welcome to Houston Trevor, I'm ready to receive him with open arms. Really happy to get this guy in our team.

hotsizzle
07-02-2009, 10:08 PM
Still will be a fan of Trevor's. Thanks for a great year. But your agent ****ed you bad. MLE from Houston as opposed to MLE from LA (your hometown team, your perfect fit, and a contender for many years to come). Good luck

nba_55
07-02-2009, 10:08 PM
Ariza fits more the Rockets without Yao because he is quick and a big slasher.
Rockets are going to be a run and gun team next year.
Remember that Ariza is younger than Artest.

big baller
07-02-2009, 10:08 PM
Idiot. Should have signed with Cavs.

PleezeBelieve
07-02-2009, 10:08 PM
Thanks for everything Trevor! I hope your basketball career takes off in Houston.

Why didn't he sign with the Cavaliers?
I think word around the league is LeBron is bolting in '10. I'm firmly convinced of this. None of this makes sense.

beasly15
07-02-2009, 10:09 PM
i accept. ariza i can accept. yes. f*ckers..

imdaman99
07-02-2009, 10:09 PM
Good luck getting open shots with no superstars left in Houston.

SCREWstonRockets
07-02-2009, 10:10 PM
Nice, at least we get something! Can you guys who've seen him play for a while tell me about the type of player Ariza can become?

BFRESH44
07-02-2009, 10:10 PM
LeBron has certainly been a fine FA recruiter for Cle, hasn't he?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hard to recruit from that boring ass city, my man. :oldlol:

Lebron to NYC!

amfirst
07-02-2009, 10:10 PM
I hope Rockets pay the man. He will be a talented player and has improve greatly this year. I hope he doesn't come back to bite the Lakers in the future. Unless, he comes back and play for them in his prime.

LA_Showtime
07-02-2009, 10:10 PM
It's sort of sad to see Trevor Ariza leave because he came to LA as an unknown commodity and really established himself as an up and coming player. I would have loved to see him continue to mature and improve his game in the coming years (in LA). With that said, Ariza's got a great opportunity to establish himself in Houston. He'll get a lot of playing time to prove to people he's a player with or without Kobe & Gasol.

All Net
07-02-2009, 10:11 PM
i LOVE it.

...it means that he did NOT go to a contending team (Magic, Cavs, etc)

that's good sh!t right there!

:hammertime:

DAVID LEE-WORSE AGENT EVER

Lakers13
07-02-2009, 10:11 PM
The Rockets got him for just the MLE? Man Trev, fire that agent. Good nab for you Rockets fans, enjoy him, dude is a beast.

magnax1
07-02-2009, 10:11 PM
Dang, I was hoping he'd sign with cleveland. They need more D to be competetitive on a championship level.

KenneBell
07-02-2009, 10:12 PM
Hope he does well there.

My hate for David Lee is incredible right now.

catch24
07-02-2009, 10:13 PM
Welcome to Houston Trevor, I'm ready to receive him with open arms. Really happy to get this guy in our team.

Yeah dude, his game has much potential. T.A hit clutch shots throughout the playoffs and his defense...well...you saw those two CRITICAL steals against Denver.

Thanks for everything Trever, good luck :cheers:

LA_Showtime
07-02-2009, 10:13 PM
I still can't figure out what David Lee is doing... Trevor Ariza is signing for the midlevel exception, the only difference is that he's on the Houston Rockets, a team stuck in the mud.

It would've been really interesting to see Trevor Ariza in Cleveland...

D-Rose
07-02-2009, 10:14 PM
For Cavs fans


YahooSportsNBA The Cleveland Cavaliers are pushing hard to sign Toronto free agent Anthony Parker, sources tell Y! Sports.

Da Ballahollic
07-02-2009, 10:14 PM
I didnt want Ariza in Cle. anyway.

Overrated IMO.

ronnymac
07-02-2009, 10:14 PM
Fantastic news. we get a player who is just about tohit his prime and will fit really well on offense and defense


So far it looks like this

Brooks
Ariza
Battier
Scola
Hayes.

It's paramount to get a Center now.

brantonli
07-02-2009, 10:15 PM
What I don't get is why did Ariza and Artest didn't join forces and demand a S&T between the Rockets, especially from Artest's pov, he could've gotten far more money that way. Oh well, at least we get something out of the FA market (at least it's not like a few years ago, when Lakers spent their whole MLE on Vlad Rad).


BTW, I think this is fairly indicative that the Rockets are out of signing Gortat, if indeed they are throwing almost full MLE at Ariza (he still needs bit of the MLE to sign the rookies).

amfirst
07-02-2009, 10:15 PM
Nice, at least we get something! Can you guys who've seen him play for a while tell me about the type of player Ariza can become?

Great team player, has a lot of potential and very atheletic, doesn't need the ball to be effective. Good consitant three point shooter. Can develop into a solid player for a championship team, if u have the right players.

He is lenghty and good defender, he just needs to add some weight. Quick hands and will steal in the clutch. Very good slasher. Good at put back and very sneaky.

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-02-2009, 10:15 PM
Nice, at least we get something! Can you guys who've seen him play for a while tell me about the type of player Ariza can become?

he is evolving before our eyes.
I've been following him since UCLA.
He came into the league as an athlete defensive specialist...who could also finish on the breaks.
Last season, he finally developed some offensive skills. He is no longer afraid to take the shot...and he can knock them down.

Not a great facilitator. limited mid-range game. getting better and better at both slashing and long-range.

Very solid defender.

But, imo, not worth more than $7m per.

NBASTATMAN
07-02-2009, 10:16 PM
:lol Cavs get screwed again


Who wants to play in the frigid temps of CLEV... I would only go there if I had no other choice.. ALA SHAQ..

meh
07-02-2009, 10:16 PM
I wonder for how many years? The reason he may have chosen the Rockets is due to having more room to develop here, as opposed to being pigeon-holed as just a spot-up shooter/defender in LA.

Adelman's a pretty good offensive coach, and could drive up his value for the next contract if he does well. Something he has no chance of doing in LA.

RoTM
07-02-2009, 10:16 PM
Give me a break with the blaming his agent like guys who run professional nba teams worth hundreds of millions base their personel decisions on BS hype statements from sports agents. The Lakers signed Ron Artest instead of Trevor Ariza because they wanted Ron Artest over Ariza and Ariza asking for a MLE contract in principal a week before anyone can actually sign anything wouldnt change their decision.

Meticode
07-02-2009, 10:17 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303862

I don't see the Rockets doing good next year, for almost half the season their lineups is going to be...

Brooks
Battier
Ariza
Scola
Landry

...none of those players are probably going to average over 20PPG. And Yao is gone for most of the season if not all of it.

PleezeBelieve
07-02-2009, 10:17 PM
For Cavs fans
lol

AznTacoLover
07-02-2009, 10:17 PM
jeez, david lee is a horrible agent.. but ariza just gotten a great opportunity to show how good he is without gasol and kobe.. it'll be tight to see how he improves..

konex
07-02-2009, 10:17 PM
The Rockets got him for just the MLE? Man Trev, fire that agent. Good nab for you Rockets fans, enjoy him, dude is a beast.

Why would the Lakers offer him the MLE when they had a chance at Artest? He took the best deal for himself. And he even got a ring too.

Good luck, Trev :rockon:

poido123
07-02-2009, 10:17 PM
Fantastic news. we get a player who is just about tohit his prime and will fit really well on offense and defense


So far it looks like this

Brooks
Ariza
Battier
Scola
Hayes.

It's paramount to get a Center now.

That is one uninspiring list right there...Not hating, just being honest...

rezznor
07-02-2009, 10:18 PM
im hearing he signed for 5 years/33 mil

Meticode
07-02-2009, 10:18 PM
Who wants to play in the frigid temps of CLEV... I would only go there if I had no other choice.. ALA SHAQ..

So you're saying no other team wanted Shaq, but Cleveland?

Allstar24
07-02-2009, 10:18 PM
Sad to see him go, great team player...I'm relieved that he didn't sign with another title contender.

juju151111
07-02-2009, 10:18 PM
Fantastic news. we get a player who is just about tohit his prime and will fit really well on offense and defense


So far it looks like this

Brooks
Ariza
Battier
Scola
Hayes.

It's paramount to get a Center now.
Put Tmac in their please. Ariza ain't a scorer like that. Tmac is working out with the Guru of trainers this offseason Tim Grover. Go look up his Resume.

chitownsfinest
07-02-2009, 10:18 PM
The Cavs getting Ariza would have meant Bron playing at pf with Ariza operating at the wing and that would not have worked to well since Lebron would struggle with lengthy pf's like Pau. This could be a blessing in disguise.

nba_55
07-02-2009, 10:18 PM
I don't see the Rockets doing good next year, for almost half the season their lineups is going to be...

Brooks
Battier
Ariza
Scola
Landry

...none of those players are probably going to average over 20PPG. And Yao is gone for most of the season if not all of it.

That team blow the Lakers 2 times during the playoffs.

Lamar Doom
07-02-2009, 10:19 PM
THANK YOU TREVOR!! you were quietly one of the biggest steals (Cooky and Mo Evans? hah) in recent years. You are probably my second favorite player in the league right now. Good luck with the Rockets!!!

D-Rose
07-02-2009, 10:19 PM
JS is a writer for Houston Chron


JeromeSolomon According to @SpearsNBA ariza will sign for 33 mill over 5 years


That's one mill more/yr than the MLE...how does this work? anyone know?

rezznor
07-02-2009, 10:19 PM
I don't see the Rockets doing good next year, for almost half the season their lineups is going to be...

Brooks
Battier
Ariza
Scola
Landry

...none of those players are probably going to average over 20PPG. And Yao is gone for most of the season if not all of it.
i bet houston is stocking up on solid roll players right now and then make a hard push in 2010 for a star.

beasly15
07-02-2009, 10:20 PM
finally, we get some good news!!!!!

Lakers13
07-02-2009, 10:21 PM
Why would the Lakers offer him the MLE when they had a chance at Artest? He took the best deal for himself. And he even got a ring too.

Good luck, Trev :rockon:


The Lakers offered him the MLE before they went after Artest. David Lee said their offer was a slap in the face, yet he gets the same money else where out of spite. I got mad luv for Trev, so I wish him the best and even more excited we replaced him with Artest.

ElPigto
07-02-2009, 10:21 PM
im hearing he signed for 5 years/33 mil

I don't mind giving him this deal. Good young player.

unknown101
07-02-2009, 10:22 PM
IMO do some sort of trade with T-macs expirer to get Amare( if he agrees to extend contract) so we dont go with a 6 foot 6 center.

Its a win-win.... Phoenix gets a superstar in T-mac ( cause they will revive him with their GOAT staff)
Rockets get a center whos not shorter than their shooting gaurd

Brooks
Ariza
Battier
Scola
Amare

Bench:
Landry
Hayes
James white
Lowry
Jermaine Taylor
Chase Budinger

rezznor
07-02-2009, 10:23 PM
I don't mind giving him this deal. Good young player.
yup, with the situation we are in right now, i would rather give this deal to ariza then to artest.

AJ2k8
07-02-2009, 10:23 PM
im hearing he signed for 5 years/33 mil
He really does need to fire that agent of his...Locked in for the MLE regardless of whether he does break out:ohwell:

WhySoInsecure?
07-02-2009, 10:23 PM
JS is a writer for Houston Chron



That's one mill more/yr than the MLE...how does this work? anyone know?
MLE starts at around 5.80 and can go up around 8-10% every year, so he'd earn more every season.

NewYorkUSCtrojan
07-02-2009, 10:23 PM
Man..sad to see trev go..good luck trev!!! I will always be a fan of yours!! Good luck to your roxs too!! I will be rooting for you and your team!! Hope yao comes back!! He's one of my favorite player!j

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-02-2009, 10:23 PM
somewhere, the Blazers mgmt is getting pissed off...

RJeff to SA
Artest to LA
Ariza to Houston
Shaq to Cavs
Vince to Magic

Blazers are gonna try a little harder for Hedo?
Go ahead Blazers...break the bank on Hedo... I DARE ya.

LutherHeadJob
07-02-2009, 10:23 PM
AB
Ariza
White
Landry
Dorsey

Dunk all over yo ass!!!

NBASTATMAN
07-02-2009, 10:25 PM
So you're saying no other team wanted Shaq, but Cleveland?

Yes other teams wanted him.. But lets be real.. He isn't going to make you guys as good as the LAKERS or Boston if Sheed lands there... Cavs are still not that GREAT.. You just got older and slower...

Your team will have problems vs the LAKERS and their huge lineup.. The Celtics with Rasheed at center will take Shaq away from the basket...

The Cavs should have built a young athletic team around Lebron.. At this point you have the two slowest centers in the league, the worst starting pf , IF VAREJO STAYS, among all title contending teams, the shortest back court in the league as well..

ronnymac
07-02-2009, 10:25 PM
I don't see the Rockets doing good next year, for almost half the season their lineups is going to be...

Brooks
Battier
Ariza
Scola
Landry

...none of those players are probably going to average over 20PPG. And Yao is gone for most of the season if not all of it.
A lineup of

brooks
Artest
Battier
Landry
Scola

Took the world champs to 7 games. heck we were the ony team to do that. we are gonna see a rockets team that is up in you're face for 48 minutes non stops we'll play lot of trap defene, lots of full court press defense and on offense we'll see lots of fast break opportunities. heck we play better defense without the 7-6 dinasour who probaly will never be a franchise player or even play.

lxlHoTsAuSelxl
07-02-2009, 10:26 PM
Nice, at least we get something! Can you guys who've seen him play for a while tell me about the type of player Ariza can become?

The Goods...........
A decent roll player, can shoot open jump shots, slash/cuts to the basket alot, long and athletic.

The Bads............
cannot create shots offensively, below average ball handler, will only thrive with 2-3 other stars on team.

Basically when he was in NY he sucked, when he was in Orlando he sucked, came to LA and made something out of nothing. He was a perfect fit in LA but can't say the same once or IF he goes to Houston.

Darius
07-02-2009, 10:28 PM
I would have liked the Clippers to offer him the MLE.

He could have stayed in LA and:

Baron
Gordon
Ariza
Griffin
Camby

Would have been nice.

RocketGreatness
07-02-2009, 10:30 PM
Very nice, Battier can mentor him to be a smarter player. He'll be more effective when Yao comes back which will hopefully be in mid-season. I like the move, we lose an declining veteran small forward for a young talented improved small forward with championship experience.

unknown101
07-02-2009, 10:30 PM
Ariza is alot better when hes just hanging back and has a superstar feeding him open shots...

IMO we wont see what hes COMPLETELY capable of this season until T-Mac comes back.

MaxFly
07-02-2009, 10:31 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303862

Lol, Cavs...

shadow
07-02-2009, 10:31 PM
OK i just don't get what the heck is going on here. Did LA not offer Ariza the full six years or something? I love Artest but I'm not sure if he can make the same kind of impact plays that Trevor did as Ron's not that quick. Despite that it's a huge upgrade for us, and from Ariza'a POV if it really is the same money, he just left a championship contender for a big question mark (Yao and McGrady's health). Errr fire your agent Trev, unless you didn't need any convincing to make that retarded decision.

LakersPwnCavs
07-02-2009, 10:32 PM
My Lakers Climb To The Top Again Ballllllaaaa!!!!

Its Only Fair...
I Mean Orlando Got Vince Carter (and Became My 3rd Favorite Team Next To The Knicks And Lakers) And The Cavs Got The Big Diesel.... I Just Wish They Had Got Ariza Too So It Would Of Been A Hell Of A Rivlary... Hopefully It Still Is :)

ronnymac
07-02-2009, 10:35 PM
Ariza is alot better when hes just hanging back and has a superstar feeding him open shots...

IMO we wont see what hes COMPLETELY capable of this season until T-Mac comes back.
The chances of tmac ever donning a rockets jersey are very slim. probly nothing. he has brunt to many bridges to be accepted back. plus we can get a mega good deal off his contract. the era of yao nd tmac is over. yo is finished as an elite player and even if he returns, he'll be nothing more then above avrage playre at best. that leg is screwed. his fracture has not only heaed, its got bigger. thas not somethingthat will ever get better and tmac is fiished period. i say good riddence.

unknown101
07-02-2009, 10:36 PM
My Lakers Climb To The Top Again Ballllllaaaa!!!!

Its Only Fair...
I Mean Orlando Got Vince Carter (and Became My 3rd Favorite Team Next To The Knicks And Lakers) And The Cavs Got The Big Diesel.... I Just Wish They Had Got Ariza Too So It Would Of Been A Hell Of A Rivlary... Hopefully It Still Is :)

Good point about if he went to Cavs
Finals dream would still be cavs vs lakers, but instead of Kobe vs. LBJ it would be Kobe vs. LBJ, Shaq, and Ariza

That would get some good ratings

NuggetsFan
07-02-2009, 10:38 PM
Atleast the Rockets get someone back. Probably going to get to see Ariza play a much bigger role with Yao\T-Mac down for a while witch should be interesting to see how he does.

ronnymac
07-02-2009, 10:44 PM
Atleast the Rockets get someone back. Probably going to get to see Ariza play a much bigger role with Yao\T-Mac down for a while witch should be interesting to see how he does.
Scola is the guy who will see his role spiked up the most. dontbe surised to see him averae 19 to 21 points a game.

FashionIssues
07-02-2009, 10:44 PM
man ariza:(

he basically agreed to slightly more the lakers offered but for more years (if rezznor's numbers are true).:confusedshrug: he'll be stuck with that deal for a hot minute if he does surpass expectations. thanks for everything though trevor and i hope you shine even more in houston.

juju151111
07-02-2009, 10:45 PM
The chances of tmac ever donning a rockets jersey are very slim. probly nothing. he has brunt to many bridges to be accepted back. plus we can get a mega good deal off his contract. the era of yao nd tmac is over. yo is finished as an elite player and even if he returns, he'll be nothing more then above avrage playre at best. that leg is screwed. his fracture has not only heaed, its got bigger. thas not somethingthat will ever get better and tmac is fiished period. i say good riddence.
LOL Yao is finish, but tmac will be back. You want to betg on it. Tim Grover= Best nba personal ever. Go check his resume.

amfirst
07-02-2009, 10:45 PM
Ariza is signing for 6.6 mil a year for 5 years.

thejumpa
07-02-2009, 10:47 PM
Damnit Ariza....who the **** signs with the Rockets over the Cavs....idiot. He should have went to Cleveland and been apart of an immediate title run rather than one that may or may not happen. Good job for getting your money though....

bagelred
07-02-2009, 10:48 PM
You know, if Trevor Ariza and Ron Artest simply switched names, it would reduce the amount of paperwork tremendously.

D-Rose
07-02-2009, 10:48 PM
Damnit Ariza....who the **** signs with the Rockets over the Cavs....idiot. He should have went to Cleveland and been apart of an immediate title run rather than one that may or may not happen. Good job for getting your money though....
As a city itself Houston>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Cleveland.

Also, he's already won a title, maybe he's not thinking about only that.

ronnymac
07-02-2009, 10:50 PM
LOL Yao is finish, but tmac will be back. You want to betg on it. Tim Grover= Best nba personal ever. Go check his resume.
And pigs will fly. tmac will never wear a rockets jersey again. the guy dosent have the mental capacity to fight back from such a seriouse operation. plus he is 30. he aint no spring chicken.

ronnymac
07-02-2009, 10:51 PM
Ariza is signing for 6.6 mil a year for 5 years.
The MLE IS 5.6 MILL

bagelred
07-02-2009, 10:56 PM
Morey must have crunched the number again, and Ariza gave him a Level 4 boner. Bigger the boner, the more Morey wants him.

Crunch those numbers, Morey!!!!

I heard Morey has actually never seen an actual basketball game. Could be true.....

ronnymac
07-02-2009, 11:03 PM
Morey must have crunched the number again, and Ariza gave him a Level 4 boner. Bigger the boner, the more Morey wants him.

Crunch those numbers, Morey!!!!

I heard Morey has actually never seen an actual basketball game. Could be true.....
Well it's choice is between an overrated ball hog nutcase who tends to disrupt whole offense with he's trademark low perentage jumpers and a up and coming young stud who helped a team win a world championship. a player who will grow with the core of brooks and landry ovr the years. also most importantly a player who is SANE.

unknown101
07-02-2009, 11:03 PM
Morey must have crunched the number again, and Ariza gave him a Level 4 boner. Bigger the boner, the more Morey wants him.

Crunch those numbers, Morey!!!!

I heard Morey has actually never seen an actual basketball game. Could be true.....

Oh ya would did you call that in your other thread again?
Was it like bonermetrics or something?

LutherHeadJob
07-02-2009, 11:05 PM
Says the guy who thinks teams want Eddy Curry...

poido123
07-02-2009, 11:07 PM
Oh ya would did you call that in your other thread again?
Was it like bonermetrics or something?

Good one, now leave, you're making a fool of yourself.

unknown101
07-02-2009, 11:10 PM
Good one, now leave, you're making a fool of yourself.

That wasnt what I came up with, Bagelred said that in another one of his threads about rockets wanting Gortat.

He said that Morey uses Bonermetrics to sign a player based on how big of a boner he gets when he looks at his stats per 48 mins or something.

Again, not my quote, just saw him say it in another thread

SCY
07-02-2009, 11:13 PM
FML. Oh well this team is f*cked sideways no matter what they do.

meh
07-02-2009, 11:20 PM
The Goods...........
A decent roll player, can shoot open jump shots, slash/cuts to the basket alot, long and athletic.

The Bads............
cannot create shots offensively, below average ball handler, will only thrive with 2-3 other stars on team.

Basically when he was in NY he sucked, when he was in Orlando he sucked, came to LA and made something out of nothing. He was a perfect fit in LA but can't say the same once or IF he goes to Houston.

Your good and bad kind of contradict each other. If he can slash to the basket, then he obviously can create his own shot and has some ball handling skills.

And about thriving with stars... doesn't that describe every single role player in existence? I hear the phrase used a lot and it just kind of bugs me. If you're a role player who thrives without stars, then you're basically a ball-hog ala Larry Hughes/Ricky Davis.

Personally I'm not sold on his shooting. But I do like his defense. At this stage of their respective careers, I'd even put his defense of Artest's.

juju151111
07-02-2009, 11:28 PM
And pigs will fly. tmac will never wear a rockets jersey again. the guy dosent have the mental capacity to fight back from such a seriouse operation. plus he is 30. he aint no spring chicken.
We will see. Tim grover hadf mj playing allstar level bb at 39. Tim grover helped dwade when he thought their wasn't any hope. Tim grover is Goat nba personal. Trains Kobe,Dwade,MJ,arenas, etc... Watch gilbert come back next season going nut and espn writing articles about grover again. Tmac will be back and you will be eating your words ev en if he on the rox or not.

OneMoreSucka
07-02-2009, 11:35 PM
So random how Ariza and Artest switched spots.

bagelred
07-02-2009, 11:42 PM
BonerMetrics....that's Morey's decision making tool.

He puts the numbers in a spreadsheet, crunches 'em, crunches 'em, crunches 'em, and then whatever level of boner Morey gets, he knows whether to sign him.

Artest was only a mildly erect Level 2 boner, but Ariza I heard was up to Level 4. That's a pretty solid 17 year old about to get laid for first time boner. Nice......he had to have Ariza.

brantonli
07-02-2009, 11:43 PM
We will see. Tim grover hadf mj playing allstar level bb at 39. Tim grover helped dwade when he thought their wasn't any hope. Tim grover is Goat nba personal. Trains Kobe,Dwade,MJ,arenas, etc... Watch gilbert come back next season going nut and espn writing articles about grover again. Tmac will be back and you will be eating your words ev en if he on the rox or not.

Whoa, Jordan had a vastly, VASTLY, different mindset to McGrady. At least he had the sheer determination to come back to the game and the killer instinct to make the team win, I'm not sure if McGrady has either of that now. Of course, I'd love it if McGrady somehow comes back even to a 06-07 form, never mind an Orlando McGrady.


Bagelred, do you have something against Morey? Because I swear you yourself get a huge boner when trying to criticse Morey's moves.

unknown101
07-02-2009, 11:44 PM
BonerMetrics....that's Morey's decision making tool.

He puts the numbers in a spreadsheet, crunches 'em, crunches 'em, crunches 'em, and then whatever level of boner Morey gets, he knows whether to sign him.

Artest was only a mildly erect Level 2 boner, but Ariza I heard was up to Level 4. That's a pretty solid 17 year old about to get laid for first time boner. Nice......he had to have Ariza.

See I told you I didnt come up with Bonermetrics

bagelred
07-02-2009, 11:48 PM
Bagelred, do you have something against Morey? Because I swear you yourself get a huge boner when trying to criticse Morey's moves.

Nah, not really. Actually he has made alot of smart moves. I'm just saying, it's very predictable to see which types of players Morey goes for. Doesn't really like guys with superior talent, but guys who play "smart" basketball. It's just fun to bust on him because he's predictable.

BTW, what is Morey going to do for a center? Wasn't he courting Gortat?


coughcoughCurrycoughcough

L8kersfan222
07-02-2009, 11:55 PM
BonerMetrics....that's Morey's decision making tool.

He puts the numbers in a spreadsheet, crunches 'em, crunches 'em, crunches 'em, and then whatever level of boner Morey gets, he knows whether to sign him.

Artest was only a mildly erect Level 2 boner, but Ariza I heard was up to Level 4. That's a pretty solid 17 year old about to get laid for first time boner. Nice......he had to have Ariza.


Nobody wants Curry

Kujo
07-02-2009, 11:55 PM
I'm guessing the Lakers offered Ariza the MLE. Ariza and his agent said screw you, we'll get a better offer elsewhere. The Lakers said screw you, we'll sign Artest for less money.

His agent is trying to save face now by saying "it wasn't about the money" after verbally agreeing to sign with the Rockets. :oldlol:

I thought Lee might have been telling the truth about the Lakers lowballing his client, but I don't really buy it now.

Good luck in Houston Trevor. I think he has the work ethic, and talent to be a real nice player. He's only going to get better.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 12:13 AM
That team blow the Lakers 2 times during the playoffs.

Except It was Artest in Ariza's spot.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 12:17 AM
Yes other teams wanted him.. But lets be real.. He isn't going to make you guys as good as the LAKERS or Boston if Sheed lands there... Cavs are still not that GREAT.. You just got older and slower...

Your team will have problems vs the LAKERS and their huge lineup.. The Celtics with Rasheed at center will take Shaq away from the basket...

The Cavs should have built a young athletic team around Lebron.. At this point you have the two slowest centers in the league, the worst starting pf , IF VAREJO STAYS, among all title contending teams, the shortest back court in the league as well..

I agree, except about the slowest backcourt part. At this point I see them losing in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

unknown101
07-03-2009, 12:18 AM
I agree, except about the slowest backcourt part. At this point I see them losing in the 2nd round of the playoffs.


He said shortest

Detroit
07-03-2009, 12:33 AM
they basically traded ron artest for trevor ariza. i think its good for the lakers, now all they need is lamar odom to resign.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 12:36 AM
He said shortest

I can't read obviously. :roll:

L8kersfan222
07-03-2009, 12:50 AM
I can't read obviously. :roll:



Obviously don't know anything about basketball either.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 12:51 AM
Obviously don't know anything about basketball either.

You are correct. :cheers:

Xsatyr
07-03-2009, 12:52 AM
Morey must have crunched the number again, and Ariza gave him a Level 4 boner. Bigger the boner, the more Morey wants him.

Crunch those numbers, Morey!!!!

I heard Morey has actually never seen an actual basketball game. Could be true.....
Morey has been to plenty of Rockets games.

Xsatyr
07-03-2009, 12:56 AM
Nah, not really. Actually he has made alot of smart moves. I'm just saying, it's very predictable to see which types of players Morey goes for. Doesn't really like guys with superior talent, but guys who play "smart" basketball. It's just fun to bust on him because he's predictable.

BTW, what is Morey going to do for a center? Wasn't he courting Gortat?


coughcoughCurrycoughcoughMorey is not really predictable, just look at his trades and drafts. No one really saw those coming and he does not just rely on numbers.

JustinJDW
07-03-2009, 01:14 AM
I am happy with Ariza in Houston. I think he will do great there. I don't know why people think Ariza is only allowed to sign with the Cavs.

**** the Cavs.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 01:16 AM
I am happy with Ariza in Houston. I think he will do great there. I don't know why people think Ariza is only allowed to sign with the Cavs.

**** the Cavs.

Can you show me some posts of people who thought he would only sign with the Cavs? I just want to know who these stupid posters are.

bagelred
07-03-2009, 01:22 AM
Morey has been to plenty of Rockets games.
:oldlol:

unknown101
07-03-2009, 01:23 AM
Can you show me some posts of people who thought he would only sign with the Cavs? I just want to know who these stupid posters are.

I think what he means is that people think that if the lakers dont sign him and the cavs want him hes automatically going to the cavs cause he wants a ring. Not 100% sure though.

ronnymac
07-03-2009, 01:43 AM
:oldlol:
If you watched any of the rockets games, morey is in almost every game sitting next the owner les alexander. yeah, go on now. harrrrr harrrr:confusedshrug:

YAWN
07-03-2009, 02:01 AM
best of luck to trev, hope he develops into an all star down in houston. he should probably get a new agent when the time for a new deal rolls around too

gts
07-03-2009, 02:10 AM
on the radio tonight they said the lakers offered him 3 years starting at 5.8 with 10% raises (the max amount he can recieve) so they turn that down and lock him into 5 years 33 miillion? the max raises he can get from the rockets is 8% so bsically he should have taken the laker money and been a free agent 2 years earlier and gone for the big pay day... lol he seriously needs to fire that guy, he royally screwed trevor on this one... i know some folks will say the lakers had their eye on artest, but they offered this contract to trevor before artest recieved an offer, if he had said yes he'd be a laker still

edit: when i say screwed trevor not because he's going to the rockets, i'm happy to see him land there, i like adleman and the front office seems to be a solid core of people, he'll do well there, take care of him rocket fans he's a keeper

RoTM
07-03-2009, 02:11 AM
What is so hard to understand about Ariza's initial contract demand having no real bearing on the Lakers personel decisions? The free agency period isnt even a week old. No one has signed anything, and no negotiations had taken place between Ariza and the Lakers. The Lakers saw an opportunity to sign Ron and they jumped for it immediately which should show everyone how little they actually valued Ariza despite all the BS they were spewing about how much they loved him after they won the title. They basically left the guy out to dry and replaced him in an afternoon without even talking it out with him.

Torious
07-03-2009, 02:17 AM
The MLE IS 5.6 MILL

The contract will obviously start at that amount, but if they gave him the max raise per year (10%) it will average out at about 6.6 mill per year.

I want to thank Ariza for an awesome year wish him nothing but luck in Houston, but it was the correct choice not to offer more then the MLE.

gts
07-03-2009, 02:21 AM
What is so hard to understand about Ariza's initial contract demand having no real bearing on the Lakers personel decisions? The free agency period isnt even a week old. No one has signed anything, and no negotiations had taken place between Ariza and the Lakers. The Lakers saw an opportunity to sign Ron and they jumped for it immediately which should show everyone how little they actually valued Ariza despite all the BS they were spewing about how much they loved him after they won the title. They basically left the guy out to dry and replaced him in an afternoon without even talking it out with him.lol you're nuttier than artest... David Lee was whining about the Lakers offer yesterday at noon pacific time... they had made an offer yesterday morning to him Lee and Kupchak talked on the phone, ESPN was reporting it in the afternoon. I"m sure they had artest in the wings but if Lee has said let me talk to trevor and we'll go from there things would have turned out different for him, instead he went running to the media and started crying about it.. Mitch goes to plan B and Trevor goes to Houston


The contract will obviously start at that amount, but if they gave him the max raise per year (10%) it will average out at about 6.6 mill per year.

I want to thank Ariza for an awesome year wish him nothing but luck in Houston, but it was the correct choice not to offer more then the MLE. Lakers can only give Artest 8% raises, he is a new signing only players who carry bird rights get 10

Torious
07-03-2009, 02:23 AM
on the radio tonight they said the lakers offered him 3 years starting at 5.8 with 10% raises (the max amount he can recieve) so they turn that down and lock him into 5 years 33 miillion? the max raises he can get from the rockets is 8% so bsically he should have taken the laker money and been a free agent 2 years earlier and gone for the big pay day... lol he seriously needs to fire that guy, he royally screwed trevor on this one... i know some folks will say the lakers had their eye on artest, but they offered this contract to trevor before artest recieved an offer, if he had said yes he'd be a laker still


A lot of things can happen in 3 years. He could get injured or just plain not realize his potential. He took security over the possibility of a bigger pay day later on. There's nothing wrong with that.

I'd agree, though, that his agent is a drama queen and should be fired ASAP.

lxlHoTsAuSelxl
07-03-2009, 02:31 AM
What is so hard to understand about Ariza's initial contract demand having no real bearing on the Lakers personel decisions? The free agency period isnt even a week old. No one has signed anything, and no negotiations had taken place between Ariza and the Lakers. The Lakers saw an opportunity to sign Ron and they jumped for it immediately which should show everyone how little they actually valued Ariza despite all the BS they were spewing about how much they loved him after they won the title. They basically left the guy out to dry and replaced him in an afternoon without even talking it out with him.

OMG everyone and there mama knew LA wanted Trevor back. David Lee tried to put Lakers in the corner with the, "Give my client 7-8-9 mill yearly or he is walking"*he didn't actually say that*. Anyone that watch Laker ball know he's only worth MLE or you can overpay to somewhere around 6+ mill but 7-8-9 million in this economy YEA RIGHT!

LA was more then happy to get Trevor back with the MLE but Lee decided to play that "Give him this much or he's walking" game. At the same time Artest was available for MLE, so why wait for Lee to budge when Artest is already there for your taking? Whatever it is, Trevor had the first option to sign but decided to let his stupid agent handle it, asked for to much, Artest was available and willing to take the MLE? OF COURSE YOU GO FOR ARTEST or you can play the waiting game then possibly end up losing both.

triangleoffense
07-03-2009, 02:37 AM
lol Ariza is crying and Artest is crying cause of joy

LOL JUST SIGNED ARTEST FOR 3 YEARS AT 3 MIL EACH

ITS LIKE THE GASOL TRADE ALL OVER AGAIN

ROFL LAKER 4 LIFE HAAH THATS HIGHWAY ROBBERY ROFL LAKERS = BEST FRONT OFFICE EVER

SAD KIDS

L8kersfan222
07-03-2009, 02:40 AM
LOL JUST SIGNED ARTEST FOR 3 YEARS AT 3 MIL EACH



Go back to elementary school and learn how to divide.:confusedshrug:

unknown101
07-03-2009, 02:45 AM
Did the Lakers say they wanted artest first or did he say he wanted to join LA first cause if artest said it I wouldnt call Lakers tthe best front office ever cause what team would say no if artest came up to them sand said he will play on their team for a FA

Torious
07-03-2009, 02:46 AM
Lakers can only give Artest 8% raises, he is a new signing only players who carry bird rights get 10

Thanks, didn't know bird rights make a difference there.

bagelred
07-03-2009, 02:51 AM
If you watched any of the rockets games, morey is in almost every game sitting next the owner les alexander. yeah, go on now. harrrrr harrrr:confusedshrug:

I was joking before. That's why I was laughing cause you took me seriously.

gts
07-03-2009, 03:14 AM
I was joking before. That's why I was laughing cause you took me seriously. i knew you were joking...lol

when the lakers were playing the rockets in the playoffs they had morey on here in La on a couple radio shows for interviews.. i liked the guy, seems like he has a good outlook on the game, personable and knows his stuff. i think the rockets are in good hands...

RoTM
07-03-2009, 03:15 AM
The Lakers front office isnt going to buy into any of a players agents fake outrage over contract offers at the beginning of negotiations. We know because of what Ariza signed for with the rockets that his true contract figure was only /gasp the MLE for 5 years.

If a 24 yr old experienced starter who made clutch plays in the playoffs and helped his team win a title, plays decent defence, and put up ok numbers as a 5th option is going to give you 5 years for MLE money you take it and say thank you for the discount. Even if it doesnt work the way you want at the worst years from now the guy can still come off the bench for 15 minutes a game. A team could do worse and alot of them do for that amount of money.

Instead the Lakers saw an opportunity to sign Artest after he got rejected by the Rockets so they paniced and pounced on him before he could sign with a rival. You dont replace a cheap young proven starter with a 30+ ring chasing has been who may or may not fit into your system, and may or may not cause locker room and chemistry problems, and may or may not end up warming the bench like Iverson a week into free agency if you dont have to.

momo
07-03-2009, 03:21 AM
Did the Lakers say they wanted artest first or did he say he wanted to join LA first cause if artest said it I wouldnt call Lakers tthe best front office ever cause what team would say no if artest came up to them sand said he will play on their team for a FA

What?

~~~

Strange how this panned out but much love for trev. Hope he gets all the min's he wants @ huston :cheers:

momo
07-03-2009, 03:23 AM
The Lakers front office isnt going to buy into any of a players agents fake outrage over contract offers at the beginning of negotiations. We know because of what Ariza signed for with the rockets that his true contract figure was only /gasp the MLE for 5 years.

If a 24 yr old experienced starter who made clutch plays in the playoffs and helped his team win a title, plays decent defence, and put up ok numbers as a 5th option is going to give you 5 years for MLE money you take it and say thank you for the discount. Even if it doesnt work the way you want at the worst years from now the guy can still come off the bench for 15 minutes a game. A team could do worse and alot of them do for that amount of money.

Instead the Lakers saw an opportunity to sign Artest after he got rejected by the Rockets so they paniced and pounced on him before he could sign with a rival. You dont replace a cheap young proven starter with a 30+ ring chasing has been who may or may not fit into your system, and may or may not cause locker room and chemistry problems, and may or may not end up warming the bench like Iverson a week into free agency if you dont have to.

You are exactly the first person I have read spinning this as a bad move for the lakes.

Bond007
07-03-2009, 04:11 AM
The contract will obviously start at that amount, but if they gave him the max raise per year (10%) it will average out at about 6.6 mill per year.

I want to thank Ariza for an awesome year wish him nothing but luck in Houston, but it was the correct choice not to offer more then the MLE.

It's pretty obvious that the Lakers did the right thing by not offering Ariza more than the MLE.....he agreed to go to the rockets for practically the same offer. His manger obviously screwed up his life....5 years of going no where compared to 5 years with championship contenders

brantonli
07-03-2009, 04:48 AM
It's pretty obvious that the Lakers did the right thing by not offering Ariza more than the MLE.....he agreed to go to the rockets for practically the same offer. His manger obviously screwed up his life....5 years of going no where compared to 5 years with championship contenders

He's 24, even after his contract ends he's going to be 29, and that's still plenty of time to win a championship. I think right now, since he's already got a chip, Ariza is more concerned about building up his career into a star. Right now he's seen as a good, athletic role player, and it makes sense to go to a team that is missing precisely that and, with a few right moves, still hang around in the playoffs.

LutherHeadJob
07-03-2009, 06:00 AM
It's pretty obvious that the Lakers did the right thing by not offering Ariza more than the MLE.....he agreed to go to the rockets for practically the same offer. His manger obviously screwed up his life....5 years of going no where compared to 5 years with championship contenders

/Facepalm

Torious
07-03-2009, 06:15 AM
It's pretty obvious that the Lakers did the right thing by not offering Ariza more than the MLE.....he agreed to go to the rockets for practically the same offer. His manger obviously screwed up his life....5 years of going no where compared to 5 years with championship contenders

No-one "screwed up his life" Ariza had the choice between 5 years with the Rockets or a riskier short term deal with the Lakers. Choosing a still very profitable long term deal is a very sensible choice for a guy who'll probably never be an all-star caliber player. Besides, he already has one ring, which is more then most NBA players can show. As far as I can tell, Ariza made the right choice for himself (and his family?), even if I wanted to see him back next year.

meh
07-03-2009, 06:30 AM
No-one "screwed up his life" Ariza had the choice between 5 years with the Rockets or a riskier short term deal with the Lakers. Choosing a still very profitable long term deal is a very sensible choice for a guy who'll probably never be an all-star caliber player. Besides, he already has one ring, which is more then most NBA players can show. As far as I can tell, Ariza made the right choice for himself (and his family?), even if I wanted to see him back next year.

Exactly. Why are Lakers fans so angry at his agent? If Ariza truly will be worth more than ~$8 mil of so he'll be making in 4-5 years, you'd be crying right now for letting this guy go. The fact that the Lakers find Artest an upgrade over him shows how much they feel about Ariza's potential, or lack thereof.

KobeRules24
07-03-2009, 06:43 AM
Thanks for everything trevor!!!! at least he didn't sign with the cavs :oldlol: lebron gets screwed again

Torious
07-03-2009, 06:53 AM
Exactly. Why are Lakers fans so angry at his agent?

Because he's a jackass. His "negotiation skills" seem to be limited to running to the media and whine like a *****, that this and that is unacceptable. He's all about threats and ultimatums.

Most laker fans still begrudge him the entire Bynum contract crap. Yes, he's Bynums agent as well. :banghead:

meh
07-03-2009, 07:06 AM
Because he's a jackass. His "negotiation skills" seem to be limited to running to the media and whine like a *****, that this and that is unacceptable. He's all about threats and ultimatums.

Most laker fans still begrudge him the entire Bynum contract crap. Yes, he's Bynums agent as well. :banghead:

Regardless of "how" he negotiates, in the end didn't he get things done? Bynum got a huge deal. Ariza got the most one can expect in his situation. 5 years guaranteed is pretty good in today's economy.

Seems to me this agent isn't stupid at all, and accomplishes what he's suppose to do.

SCREWstonRockets
07-03-2009, 08:26 AM
Well, according to his agent, it wasn't all about the money but going somewhere Ariza felt "appreciated".

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/02/SPFU18IDCG.DTL

"I had to do what was best for me and family," Ariza told the Los Angeles Times. "I am happy with my decision. I'm glad this all worked out. The Rockets are going to give me a chance to improve my game and that's all you can ask for."

Ariza's agent, David Lee, said the 24-year-old forward passed up a more lucrative contract offer from another team with salary-cap space. "We decided to go with Houston anyway," Lee said. "It was never about the money. It was about going someplace where you felt appreciated."

ElPigto
07-03-2009, 08:54 AM
I am really excited about adding Trevor to our team. I think Rick Adelman has big plans for the kid and how to incorporate him into our offense. He actually went with Morey to convince Trevor to come play for the Rockets. I'm sure the motion offense will work well with Trevor considering that he came from playing the Triangle. I don't doubt that Trevor will find many opportunities with the Rockets and perhaps an even better player. Personally I don't think he has reached his ceiling which is what makes me really excited to have him in Houston.

Mississippi
07-03-2009, 09:08 AM
I am really excited about adding Trevor to our team. I think Rick Adelman has big plans for the kid and how to incorporate him into our offense. He actually went with Morey to convince Trevor to come play for the Rockets. I'm sure the motion offense will work well with Trevor considering that he came from playing the Triangle. I don't doubt that Trevor will find many opportunities with the Rockets and perhaps an even better player. Personally I don't think he has reached his ceiling which is what makes me really excited to have him in Houston.
So what does he play for the Rockets? SF or SG? Do you bring him off the bench or does he start in the place of Battier.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 09:09 AM
So what does he play for the Rockets? SF or SG? Do you bring him off the bench or does he start in the place of Battier.

I would guess playing him SG since that's is more natural position and play Battier at SF since that his most natural position.

Mississippi
07-03-2009, 09:11 AM
I would guess playing him SG since that's is more natural position and play Battier at SF since that his most natural position.
Ariza improved on his jumpshot alot but he's still a terrible shooter. He benefited from the presence of Kobe which left him open often. The Rockets have no one who will command a double team so he's going to have a far difficult time getting buckets.

ElPigto
07-03-2009, 09:21 AM
I would guess playing him SG since that's is more natural position and play Battier at SF since that his most natural position.

SG? lol

That's not his natural position. He would look so awkward playing SG, it just wouldn't work.

I think the Rockets have a lot of other moves to figure out before I can an understand how the team will shape up.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 09:23 AM
SG? lol

That's not his natural position. He would look so awkward playing SG, it just wouldn't work.

I think the Rockets have a lot of other moves to figure out before I can an understand how the team will shape up.

SG is his natural position.

ElPigto
07-03-2009, 09:25 AM
SG is his natural position.

How do you figure?

He has no ball handling skills, he can't shoot off the dribble, hell it was only till this year he could shoot a three point shot consistently.

He might have played SG in UCLA (don't even know about that) but that still doesn't make his natural position SG.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 09:28 AM
How do you figure?

He has no ball handling skills, he can't shoot off the dribble, hell it was only till this year he could shoot a three point shot consistently.

He might have played SG in UCLA (don't even know about that) but that still doesn't make his natural position SG.

His natural position is SG.

ElPigto
07-03-2009, 09:31 AM
His natural position is SG.

So I guess this is how you boost your post count.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 09:32 AM
So I guess this is how you boost your post count.

That one hurt me bad there. You just crushed my self-esteem. Whether Ariza is a natural SG or not is beside the point. It's obviously they should use his as a SG since he cuts to the basket way better than Battier does. Battier lives on the perimeter and that's about it for his offensive game. At least Ariza has the athletic ability to at least go to the hoop.

ElPigto
07-03-2009, 09:35 AM
That one hurt me bad there. You just crushed my self-esteem.

Self esteem, didn't know you had one?

Meticode
07-03-2009, 09:35 AM
Self esteem, didn't know you had one?

Damn, that hurts too. I don't have a heart, but it hurts. Damn.

ElPigto
07-03-2009, 09:37 AM
That one hurt me bad there. You just crushed my self-esteem. Whether Ariza is a natural SG or not is beside the point. It's obviously they should use his as a SG since he cuts to the basket way better than Battier does. Battier lives on the perimeter and that's about it for his offensive game. At least Ariza has the athletic ability to at least go to the hoop.

No it's not beside the point. You made a claim and I ask you to explain why he is a natural SG. Just because he can cut to the basket does not make him an SG. There is also no indication that the Rockets brought him here to start at SG. I wouldn't be surprised to see Shane come off the bench. The Rockets have many unproven SG's, but hell sometimes you have to plug one of them hoping one of them works out.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 09:41 AM
No it's not beside the point. You made a claim and I ask you to explain why he is a natural SG. Just because he can cut to the basket does not make him an SG. There is also no indication that the Rockets brought him here to start at SG. I wouldn't be surprised to see Shane come off the bench. The Rockets have many unproven SG's, but hell sometimes you have to plug one of them hoping one of them works out.

Is this all you can do is log on and argue about this? Whether he's a SG or not? Is this it? This is why you logged on ISH today? If this is all you want to do, fine...you're right. He's not a natural SG, you are correct sir. You win. I hope this helps you in life. Now piss off and let me be with my no self-esteem self.

Torious
07-03-2009, 09:42 AM
Ariza improved on his jumpshot alot but he's still a terrible shooter. He benefited from the presence of Kobe which left him open often. The Rockets have no one who will command a double team so he's going to have a far difficult time getting buckets.

I told myself the entire season that "one of these days Ariza will just run out of luck and will stop hitting the threes", but it never happened! I am absolutely amazed how such a terrible free-throw shooter (<70%) can go 40-84 from the 3-point line in the playoffs. :eek:

Mississippi
07-03-2009, 09:44 AM
I told myself the entire season that "one of these days Ariza will just run out of luck and will stop hitting the threes", but it never happened! I am absolutely amazed how such a terrible free-throw shooter (<70%) can go 40-84 from the 3-point line in the playoffs. :eek:
Like I said in a previous post he benefited from Kobe. Defenses didn't respect his jumpshot. You put a hand in his face and he does not make those shots.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 09:46 AM
Like I said in a previous post he benefited from Kobe. Defenses didn't respect his jumpshot. You put a hand in his face and he does not make those shots.

So basically you feel he's going to be worse offensively this season compared to last season and his offensive success pretty much was a product of Kobe Bryant?

ElPigto
07-03-2009, 09:49 AM
Is this all you can do is log on and argue about this? Whether he's a SG or not? Is this it? This is why you logged on ISH today? If this is all you want to do, fine...you're right. He's not a natural SG, you are correct sir. You win. I hope this helps you in life. Now piss off and let me be without my no self-esteem self.

See here is the deal I don't know what the F*CK is wrong with you but I come here to ISH hoping to have a decent discussion about basketball randomness with someone. All I was asking you was a question and you get butt hurt right away when you can't answer it. Anyways I'm done with this and not going to play your little games hoping I'll keep giving you sh!t.

Mississippi
07-03-2009, 09:50 AM
So basically you feel he's going to be worse offensively this season compared to last season and his offensive success pretty much was a product of Kobe Bryant?
At least until Yao and McGrady come back. If they come back! I think he'll still get his hustle buckets and alley oops but I think he want be the three point threat he became in the playoffs because there is no one on that roster who commands a double team. Maybe he'll continue to work on his jumpshot this offseason and learn to shoot off the dribble and learn to create for himself.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 09:52 AM
See here is the deal I don't know what the F*CK is wrong with you but I come here to ISH hoping to have a decent discussion about basketball randomness with someone. All I was asking you was a question and you get butt hurt right away when you can't answer it. Anyways I'm done with this and not going to play your little games hoping I'll keep giving you sh!t.

Okay, so you feel Ariza should be playing SF and Battier SG or something different?

Foster5k
07-03-2009, 11:02 AM
Ariza will never win a championship again.

He is going to see how it feels playing without stars like Kobe and Gasol. When he was a Magic he didn't do ****. Watch he will return back to the old Ariza, in Houston. He did great on the Lakers, but I sum that up, to who he was playing with.

He should of signed with the Cavs. Why the hell sign with the Rockets, for the MLE. That makes no sense.

Meticode
07-03-2009, 11:06 AM
Ariza will never win a championship again.

He is going to see how it feels playing without stars like Kobe and Gasol. When he was a Magic he didn't do ****. Watch he will return back to the old Ariza, in Houston. He did great on the Lakers, but I sum that up, to who he was playing with.

He should of signed with the Cavs. Why the hell sign with the Rockets, for the MLE. That makes no sense.

What are you talking about, he'll be playing with T-Mac and Yao! Oh wait, nevermind...

http://www.coachlikeapro.com/Images/general/tracy_mcgrady.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02s7gX59G32lX/610x.jpg

brantonli
07-03-2009, 11:16 AM
yes but this time round he's going to get a lot more touches and chances to prove himself (not as a role player, but as a verfiable starter). I know he's (sort of) had that chance on other teams, but he's actually going to be starting for the majority of the time. I'm slightly concerned about all the SFs we have though, but that's for another thread.

SCY
07-03-2009, 04:44 PM
There's no point in arguing which will play SF/SG because those are imaginary positions, but there's no question Ariza and Battier are redundant and there's not enough ball-handling skill among them. Battier is probably gone.

YAWN
07-03-2009, 06:41 PM
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8774/14598896.jpg
gonna miss this dude. i fukcing hate david lee

LutherHeadJob
07-03-2009, 07:09 PM
Ariza's # of rings > Lebron's # of rings

crisoner
07-03-2009, 07:27 PM
In all honesty I really wish we still had Trevor. He was you and a great role player. Just exactly what the Lakers needed.

If Artest can play say more of a defensive minded game with the Lakeshow then the switch will be more then worth it. Love having Artest...hate losing Trevor. I'm sure all Laker fans feel the same way.

Foster5k
07-03-2009, 07:59 PM
I liked Ariza. However, I would trade him in a heart beat, without thinking, to get Ron Artest. That's a no brainer.

Ron Artest is all around better. Players like Ron Artest don't come around too often. I'll miss Ariza, but he was needed as a sacrifice, for the greater good.

Hell, he might do a MJ and start playing baseball, once the Rocket tank.. :lol

L8kersfan222
07-03-2009, 08:26 PM
That one hurt me bad there. You just crushed my self-esteem.



Lol somebody ban this retard.

MiseryCityTexas
07-05-2009, 08:22 PM
finally, we get some good news!!!!!
this is considered good news???????? :no: :violin:

MiseryCityTexas
07-05-2009, 08:30 PM
Ariza will never win a championship again.

He is going to see how it feels playing without stars like Kobe and Gasol. When he was a Magic he didn't do ****. Watch he will return back to the old Ariza, in Houston. He did great on the Lakers, but I sum that up, to who he was playing with.

He should of signed with the Cavs. Why the hell sign with the Rockets, for the MLE. That makes no sense.

lol this free agent signing would have been a good free agent signing if ron artest was still on our team. :banghead:

Mavwreck
07-06-2009, 10:32 AM
Man, I remember seeing Ariza play in summer league ball his rookie season. He by far looked like the best player on the court... shooting, passing, even a ridiculous "behind the back dribble in the lane behind the back pass for a dunk move".

I added him for my dynasty basketball squad and then what do the Knicks do? Proceed to sit his ass for a couple years. Glad the Lakers realized the talent he is.

TMacYaoRockets
07-08-2009, 04:32 PM
He's sporting a purple tie at the press conference! :mad: Sport a red tie dammit! :banghead:

unknown101
07-08-2009, 04:38 PM
He's sporting a purple tie at the press conference! :mad: Sport a red tie dammit! :banghead:


LOL

TMacYaoRockets
07-08-2009, 04:44 PM
LOL
He's done great in the Playoffs for the Lakers. Good signing. But Ariza still needs to earn his point from me as a Rocket. So far he's losing some points. Wearing that purple tie goes to show you that he's still a Laker at heart.

unknown101
07-08-2009, 05:01 PM
Apparantly we can still use our MLE on other player according to another post.

Go Morey!

KingsFan416
07-08-2009, 05:29 PM
He's sporting a purple tie at the press conference! :mad: Sport a red tie dammit! :banghead:

http://i28.tinypic.com/a4sqe0.png

Trevor doesn't look too happy.

unknown101
07-08-2009, 05:37 PM
http://i28.tinypic.com/a4sqe0.png

Trevor doesn't look too happy.


Must be having 2nd thoughts about leaving LA or was just a bad pic.

KingsFan416
07-08-2009, 05:39 PM
Must be having 2nd thoughts about leaving LA or was just a bad pic.
From what I hear. His agent screwed him over. And Trevor said he didn't know what was going on with Kupchak and David Lee were negotiating the contract.

DavisWarriorsFan
07-08-2009, 05:40 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/saint_dale/a4sqe0.jpg

DEA7H13
07-08-2009, 05:52 PM
From what I hear. His agent screwed him over. And Trevor said he didn't know what was going on with Kupchak and David Lee were negotiating the contract.

Yep, based on everything I've heard Trevor say about going to the Rockets it sounds to me like he's pissed at his agent for not keeping him in LA but he doesn't wanna throw him under the bus so he throws in subtle hints that it's his agents fault.

LutherHeadJob
07-08-2009, 07:25 PM
We get Ariza, keep the MLE and does not get penalized it Yao gets back early


I LOVE MOREY

SCY
07-08-2009, 07:49 PM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6061/16335025.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7465/contentariza.jpg

DEA7H13
07-08-2009, 08:03 PM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6061/16335025.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7465/contentariza.jpg

It makes me sick to my stomach to see this image (I'm a Laker fan).

Thom.Yorke
07-08-2009, 09:36 PM
LA is gonna miss you trevor. We all loved you, and hopefully we can do a trade for you in the future. Fire your agent. seriously. and good luck.

nevetslc88
07-08-2009, 10:02 PM
from Kareem Abdul-Jabba Twitter: http://twitter.com/kaj33

# Ariza wanted "star money" now but he's only 23 & hasn't shown consistency year in and year out. 41 minutes ago from web
#
I thought #Ariza was quick & stealthy and did amazing things & I'll miss him on the team 44 minutes ago from web
#
Ariza was trying 2 get more money because this was his first outstanding year. Artest was willing to sign for the money Ariza turned downabout 1 hour ago from web

meh
07-08-2009, 11:20 PM
from Kareem Abdul-Jabba Twitter: http://twitter.com/kaj33# Ariza wanted "star money" now but he's only 23 & hasn't shown consistency year in and year out. 41 minutes ago from web
#

If Ariza wanted "star money", and the Lakers basically came back with "you're not a star", then it seems clear why Ariza left.

On the Lakers, Ariza will never have a chance to be a star. It's simply impossible when the team has Gasol/Bynum/Kobe/Odom on it. But he'll never suck either, because he'll never have to do much. He'll remain in status quo for quite a long time.

Maybe he'll never amount to much in Houston, and it's definitely a gamble. But Adelman's a pretty good offensive coach who often put his players in position to succeed. So in that sense, if Ariza's true goal is to be a star in this league(which I personally belive he's incapable of doing), then Houston is the right decision.

MiseryCityTexas
07-09-2009, 03:35 PM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6061/16335025.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7465/contentariza.jpg

he has that "pretending to look happy when im actually not happy" smile.

bagelred
07-09-2009, 03:40 PM
I can easily see Artest traded for Ariza during the season. Each team "reboots" with the guy each one probably wanted all along.

Automajic23
07-09-2009, 03:41 PM
he has that "pretending to look happy when im actually not happy" smile.

He's gonna have that look for quite some time as long as he's in Houston. :banghead:

beasly15
07-09-2009, 06:01 PM
He's gonna have that look for quite some time as long as he's in Houston. :banghead:

come on, man. he's happy. well, we are... it'll kick in.

Red-Head
07-12-2009, 01:59 PM
I will just say this once....THE ROCKETS WOULD BEAT DOWN ON THE CAVS AND THE MAGIC WITH OR WITHOUT YAO.

Red-Head
07-12-2009, 02:13 PM
It's funny. I don't think Lakers fans realize how lucky they got year. Lol. It took Garnett and Yao to get hurt for the Lakers to win it. It seems you guys actually think yall are really good or something. lol. That's really cute.

D-Rose
07-13-2009, 05:38 PM
It's funny. I don't think Lakers fans realize how lucky they got year. Lol. It took Garnett and Yao to get hurt for the Lakers to win it. It seems you guys actually think yall are really good or something. lol. That's really cute.
I think the post you made before that one tells us all we need to know about you :oldlol:

OneMoreSucka
07-13-2009, 06:37 PM
he has that "pretending to look happy when im actually not happy" smile.
I'd say it looks like the cameraman said "alright smile in this one" and so his smile looks contrived.

All Net
07-13-2009, 08:28 PM
he has that "pretending to look happy when im actually not happy" smile.

:lol Damn I don't think Trevor could look anymore depressed..oh dear.

hoss805
07-13-2009, 09:45 PM
It's funny. I don't think Lakers fans realize how lucky they got year. Lol. It took Garnett and Yao to get hurt for the Lakers to win it. It seems you guys actually think yall are really good or something. lol. That's really cute.
Lakers swept Boston this Year with Garnett in the line up,
come up with another excuse Buddy

Q.E.C
07-14-2009, 04:23 PM
Lakers swept Boston this Year with Garnett in the line up,
come up with another excuse Buddy

The Lakers swept the Rockets this year too and look what happened.

intrinsic
10-24-2009, 11:59 AM
As the season draws closer, I'm liking this Ariza signing much more. He'll provide another athletic defender. The thing I'm really interested in though... his offensive growth under Adelman. Ariza should assume a greater role in the offense than he ever had in LA over the duration of this contract, and I can't help myself from drawing comparisons to Doug Christie. Maybe, I'm having daydreams, but I don't see why the playmaking abilities can't improve for the kid as a Rocket.