View Full Version : North Korea promotes eating dog meat to beat summer heat
Yung D-Will
07-29-2009, 09:47 AM
North Korea is promoting the virtue of dog meat as a way to beat the summer heat and says customers are packing Pyongyang restaurants which serve the traditional dish.
The North has been hosting dog meat food contests to help develop the traditional cuisine, the official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said Saturday.
Dog meat is called dangogi, or "sweet meat", a euphemism coined by North Korea's founder Kim Il-Sung in the early 1980s. Dangogi-jang is dog meat soup.
"Our ancestors believed hot dangogi soup consumed during the dog days of summer helped prevent diseases from malnutrition and bolster stamina," KCNA said.
It cited a 17th century book on herbal medicine to tout the nutritional value of dog meat. According to the book, dog meat is especially good for the digestive organs, blood circulation and bone marrow and improves stamina.
"During the current dog days of summer, many customers are visiting dangogi restaurants in Pyongyang," KCNA said.
"Dangogi-jang is becoming popular even among Koreans living abroad and foreigners as well," it said.
Dog meat is enjoyed in both North and South Korea, especially during hot summer days.
But while dog meat restaurants in the South are assuming a low-profile because of international criticism, in the North dangogi cuisine is a source of pride and a mark of national identity.
Defectors say Pyongyang has many dangogi restaurants but note that dog meat has become a luxury elsewhere in the impoverished communist state.
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EWWWWWWWWWWW:no:
GreatGreg
07-29-2009, 09:48 AM
Oh, those Koreans.....
boozehound
07-29-2009, 09:52 AM
well, its certainly true that consuming hot liquids (soup or tea) can help you handle the heat.
I wonder if any of you have ever had any dangogi? People act like they are taking pets in the night and butchering them. THese animals were bred and raised to provide meat. Whats the difference between that and our beloved obsession with dead cow?
supersmashbros
07-29-2009, 10:00 AM
well, its certainly true that consuming hot liquids (soup or tea) can help you handle the heat.
I wonder if any of you have ever had any dangogi? People act like they are taking pets in the night and butchering them. THese animals were bred and raised to provide meat. Whats the difference between that and our beloved obsession with dead cow?
I completely agree. The majority of Westners would ignorantly shun eating dogs and cats as barbaric. In reality, it's a culture's choice to decide what to do with their domesticated animals. We choose to have those animals as pets. They choose to have them as pets and also food. We could easily have chicken, pigs, and ducks as pets, yet we primarily eat them (and not have them as pets). It's just cultural value nothing else.
The only impracticality of eating dogs is that they are carnivores to begin with. That means you need to FEED them meat in order to harvest their meat whereas a herbivorous animal would only need to eat plant matter (Which is lower in the food chain). More importantly, I think the meat that's fed to the dogs is probably more important to the citizen of NK than the dogs that will get eaten anyways.
lazerface
07-29-2009, 10:04 AM
i don't care what anyone says, eating domesticated animals like cats or dogs is f*cked up. i'm never going anywhere near north or south korea.
supersmashbros
07-29-2009, 10:40 AM
i don't care what anyone says, eating domesticated animals like cats or dogs is f*cked up. i'm never going anywhere near north or south korea.
You culturally biased...nothing wrong with eating cats and dogs...just because of pretentious Westener says so...screw Westener ideals, NK or East Asians follow their own culture.
twolvesfan
07-29-2009, 10:44 AM
i don't care what anyone says, eating domesticated animals like cats or dogs is f*cked up. i'm never going anywhere near north or south korea.
:oldlol:
lazerface
07-29-2009, 10:46 AM
You culturally biased...nothing wrong with eating cats and dogs...just because of pretentious Westener says so...screw Westener ideals, NK or East Asians follow their own culture.
you're just as culturally biased as i am to believe an ideal that says it's ok to eat a dog for dinner.
i'll stick with my "westerner ideals".
quasimoto
07-29-2009, 10:53 AM
you're just as culturally biased as i am to believe an ideal that says it's ok to eat a dog for dinner.
WTF. Just because it sounds strange to you doesn't mean it's wrong. What's the difference between eating a dog and eating a turkey? It's also a popular dish in China btw, so that's another 1.5 billion people who disagree with you.
lazerface
07-29-2009, 10:57 AM
WTF. Just because it sounds strange to you doesn't mean it's wrong. What's the difference between eating a dog and eating a turkey?
it's just the way i grew up, i've had multiple cats and dogs as pets growing up. i would never think of eating one. and i never said it was wrong i just said it was f*cked up IMO.
ForceOfNature
07-29-2009, 11:02 AM
Sweet meat? It probably tastes good too. Yeah and I agree, there's really no difference between eating dog meat and any other animals bred for providing meat. Probably much safer eating dog too, with mad cow disease and swine flu going around.
twolvesfan
07-29-2009, 11:10 AM
it's just the way i grew up, i've had multiple cats and dogs as pets growing up. i would never think of eating one. and i never said it was wrong i just said it was f*cked up IMO.
:confusedshrug: some people have pet cows and chickens and turkeys
supersmashbros
07-29-2009, 11:12 AM
WTF. Just because it sounds strange to you doesn't mean it's wrong. What's the difference between eating a dog and eating a turkey? It's also a popular dish in China btw, so that's another 1.5 billion people who disagree with you.
Laserface just got owned. He or she is a very culturally biased, narrow-minded person. He thinks their cultural values are inferior to his which is why he looks down upon them.
I am supposedly biased according to him? I am open-minded as I accept any cultural differences that don't affect me. If I were a dog or cat owner, as long as those N Korean's aren't eating my pets, I am fine with that!
wang4three
07-29-2009, 11:14 AM
I like how they call it "dog days of summer". Oh those crazy punsters.
Knicks101
07-29-2009, 11:19 AM
Lol @ the dog ass on the plate.
supersmashbros
07-29-2009, 11:19 AM
I like how they call it "dog days of summer". Oh those crazy punsters.
I don't see how that's a pun...
lazerface
07-29-2009, 11:19 AM
I am supposedly biased according to him? I am open-minded as I accept any cultural differences that don't affect me. If I were a dog or cat owner, as long as those N Korean's aren't eating my pets, I am fine with that!
you're open minded to other cultural differences?? didn't you just say "screw westerner ideals"? yeah, real open minded. :rolleyes:
and i never said anything about another culture being inferior to mine, i just don't agree with eating pets for dinner.
wang4three
07-29-2009, 11:20 AM
I don't see how that's a pun...
Somehow I'm not surprised.
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 11:52 AM
you're open minded to other cultural differences?? didn't you just say "screw westerner ideals"? yeah, real open minded. :rolleyes:
and i never said anything about another culture being inferior to mine, i just don't agree with eating pets for dinner.
lmao. its not like they're eating poodles or some sh*t. these breed of dogs were specifically raised to be used for their meat. same thing as eating cows, pigs, chickens, etc.
boozehound
07-29-2009, 12:01 PM
I completely agree. The majority of Westners would ignorantly shun eating dogs and cats as barbaric. In reality, it's a culture's choice to decide what to do with their domesticated animals. We choose to have those animals as pets. They choose to have them as pets and also food. We could easily have chicken, pigs, and ducks as pets, yet we primarily eat them (and not have them as pets). It's just cultural value nothing else.
The only impracticality of eating dogs is that they are carnivores to begin with. That means you need to FEED them meat in order to harvest their meat whereas a herbivorous animal would only need to eat plant matter (Which is lower in the food chain). More importantly, I think the meat that's fed to the dogs is probably more important to the citizen of NK than the dogs that will get eaten anyways.
while dogs do have a short digestive tract designed for meat consumption, my understanding is that they have a mixed diet (just like our dogfood is pretty much half rice, corn, etc.). My boy who just got back from doing some research over there said that some of the dog farms feed them hemp. presumably the seed, a good source of fats and protiens.
boozehound
07-29-2009, 12:02 PM
you're open minded to other cultural differences?? didn't you just say "screw westerner ideals"? yeah, real open minded. :rolleyes:
and i never said anything about another culture being inferior to mine, i just don't agree with eating pets for dinner.
uh, you dont think saying that its "****ed up" is a value judgement?
boozehound
07-29-2009, 12:03 PM
i don't care what anyone says, eating domesticated animals like cats or dogs is f*cked up. i'm never going anywhere near north or south korea.
so, their food culture is ****ed up and you will shun them. no value judgement there.
rufuspaul
07-29-2009, 12:07 PM
I have a great dachshund casserole recipe.
lazerface
07-29-2009, 12:09 PM
uh, you dont think saying that its "****ed up" is a value judgement?
:oldlol: you're right, i definitely could have used better wording.
knickballer
07-29-2009, 12:13 PM
How are dogs "safer" to eat than other animals? Most dogs grow up in the wild eating about anything. They have plenty of diseases and insects on them. Cows, and other animals are breed for eating while dogs ain't. You can eat dogs but to think they are better then Turkey and chicken is ridiculous.
lazerface
07-29-2009, 12:15 PM
so, their food culture is ****ed up and you will shun them. no value judgement there.
i was talking about eating dogs. is dog meat their entire food culture? i'm sure there are alot of great korean dishes i would like that don't involve dog meat.
goldenryan
07-29-2009, 12:18 PM
i'm sure even mike vick takes offence to seeing that picture. :mad:
boozehound
07-29-2009, 12:19 PM
How are dogs "safer" to eat than other animals? Most dogs grow up in the wild eating about anything. They have plenty of diseases and insects on them. Cows, and other animals are breed for eating while dogs ain't. You can eat dogs but to think they are better then Turkey and chicken is ridiculous.
uh, what? Do you know anything about the meat industry in korea? Apparently not. THese dogs were also bred for meat. I love how you "know" beef is way better than something you've never even tasted.
besides, chickens were really bred for eggs and cows for milk. More more energetically efficient food production. There is a reason why most east african cattle cultures eat very little beef.
boozehound
07-29-2009, 12:20 PM
i was talking about eating dogs. is dog meat their entire food culture? i'm sure there are alot of great korean dishes that i would like that don't involve dog meat.
sure. but dog is a highly visible and celebrated component of traditional korean food. Havent had it myself, but then, Ive never gone to the ROK. Wheres ced when you need him. My friends who have eaten it say its quite tasty.
SCREWstonRockets
07-29-2009, 12:22 PM
Lol @ the dog ass on the plate.
Don't you know dog ass has the most meat?
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 12:27 PM
sure. but dog is a highly visible and celebrated component of traditional korean food. Havent had it myself, but then, Ive never gone to the ROK. Wheres ced when you need him. My friends who have eaten it say its quite tasty.
I've had it in Korea. It was a complete surprise actually, as it was the dog's ribs in a stew and my uncle told me it was beef then told me later it was dog. It tasted similar to pork in the stew that I had it in. Taste wise it was pretty damn good except for the first time unusual smell of it.
Once again, we're not eating poodles or dachshunds or wild dogs from the forest you idiots. These dogs are bred for their meat, not for their pet services, they are the same sh*t as cows, pigs, etc.
Americans LOVE McDonald's, which is a whole level of disgusting above dog meat which is the same thing as beef, pork, etc.
rufuspaul
07-29-2009, 12:33 PM
Once again, we're not eating poodles or dachshunds or wild dogs from the forest you idiots.
Hey, don't knock dachshunds till you've tried my casserole.
BlazersDozen
07-29-2009, 12:44 PM
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I'm sorry but that just looks dry and very tough. Why would anybody eat that?
32jazz
07-29-2009, 01:02 PM
you're open minded to other cultural differences?? didn't you just say "screw westerner ideals"? yeah, real open minded. :rolleyes:
and i never said anything about another culture being inferior to mine, i just don't agree with eating pets for dinner.
Their are nearly a billion (or more) Hindu who think that OUR eating/killing of cattle is not only disgusting ,but a sacrilege.
It is a CRIME to kill/consume cattle in most every sate of India & you could be risking your life trying to eat/slaughter cattle around the most devoted of Hindu practitioners. I have heard of serious riots/killings/protest in India over this issue.
We as arrogant Americans seem to want to pass judgement on others culture without realizing how ours is perceived by others.
I seriously would like to try it some day(dog & horse meat ) just out of curiosity. Any good dog dish suggestions:confusedshrug:
Poodles & Noodles
Pit Bull Pot Pie
Collie Con Carne
Labrador Lasagna
Roasted Rack O' Rottweiler
knickballer
07-29-2009, 01:09 PM
uh, what? Do you know anything about the meat industry in korea? Apparently not. THese dogs were also bred for meat. I love how you "know" beef is way better than something you've never even tasted.
besides, chickens were really bred for eggs and cows for milk. More more energetically efficient food production. There is a reason why most east african cattle cultures eat very little beef.
Have you ever tried dog? Most east africans are starving so of course they would eat dogs.
32jazz
07-29-2009, 01:11 PM
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I'm sorry but that just looks dry and very tough. Why would anybody eat that?
That's a photo of what looks OBVIOUSLY like some raw SMOKED dog meat. That isn't a prepared dish & I doubt if it is eaten like that anymore than we eat RAW smoked pork,etc.........
That isn't ready for consumption just looks like a raw meat display.
Hindu's wonder how we can eat Cattle & Muslims are utterly disgusted by our consumption of filthy swine.:confusedshrug:
Hindu & Musims are two groups who outnumber Americans by an extremely large number on this planet.
32jazz
07-29-2009, 01:13 PM
Have you ever tried dog? Most east africans are starving so of course they would eat dogs.
Most East Africans are starving:rolleyes: The ignorance/prejudice here is astounding.
Most East Africans are NOT starving & MOST(if any) do not eat dog meat retard.
boozehound
07-29-2009, 01:16 PM
http://i26.tinypic.com/2wgf1xk.jpg
I'm sorry but that just looks dry and very tough. Why would anybody eat that?
well, its obviously smoked.
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 01:18 PM
Lol at the dog food picture.
Its most commonly served to the general public in the form of soup/stew called "BoShinTang" <- pronounced as such, so the meat is tender
boozehound
07-29-2009, 01:18 PM
Have you ever tried dog? Most east africans are starving so of course they would eat dogs.
again, showing how little you know of the world. gotta love your ignorance and assumptions about everyone in africa starving. Besides, we are talking about a cultural tradition of dogs as food, not some desperate person eating some random wild dog to avoid starving to death.
the East African Cattle Cultures include people like the Masai that are traditional cow pastoralists.
No, I havent eaten dog. which is why I wont judge others who do, since Ive never tried it.
boozehound
07-29-2009, 01:20 PM
That's a photo of what looks OBVIOUSLY like some raw SMOKED dog meat. That isn't a prepared dish & I doubt if it is eaten like that anymore than we eat RAW smoked pork,etc.........
That isn't ready for consumption just looks like a raw meat display.
Hindu's wonder how we can eat Cattle & Muslims are utterly disgusted by our consumption of filthy swine.:confusedshrug:
Hindu & Musims are two groups who outnumber Americans by an extremely large number on this planet.
exactly. its basically a dog ham. I would presume they would braise it into a stew, though I understand that there is also a dish like kogulgi (sp) barbecue made with dog meat
goldenryan
07-29-2009, 01:21 PM
That isn't ready for consumption just looks like a raw meat display.
Hindu's wonder how we can eat Cattle & Muslims are utterly disgusted by our consumption of filthy swine.:confusedshrug:
Hindu & Musims are two groups who outnumber Americans by an extremely large number on this planet.
north koreans aren't hindu or musim tho, i see what you mean tho, people from india wouldn't eat cows and jews' won't eat pigs.
goldenryan
07-29-2009, 01:25 PM
dogs are friends, not food.
rufuspaul
07-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Poodles & Noodles
Pit Bull Pot Pie
Collie Con Carne
Labrador Lasagna
Roasted Rack O' Rottweiler
I think I like this dude.:cheers:
32jazz
07-29-2009, 01:30 PM
exactly. its basically a dog ham. I would presume they would braise it into a stew, though I understand that there is also a dish like kogulgi (sp) barbecue made with dog meat
Braised stew meat or smoked barbecue dog meat? Kind of sounds delicious the way you desscribe it.:D
Do you think you would try Dog/Horse meat if given the oppurtunity. You seem open minded so I would 'guess' yes.:confusedshrug:
Shocking how closeminded we can be about dogmeat when there are BILLIONS(with a 'B') of people in the world who find the consumption of Cattle & Pork completely reprehensible,criminal,sacrilege,etc........You could be killed in India for slaughtering cattle/eating beef.
triangleoffense
07-29-2009, 02:03 PM
I wonder if any of you have ever had any dangogi? People act like they are taking pets in the night and butchering them. THese animals were bred and raised to provide meat. Whats the difference between that and our beloved obsession with dead cow?
this is 100% true. Our outlook on their lifestyle is purely cultural.
supersmashbros
07-29-2009, 02:22 PM
dogs are friends, not food.
They can be both. Anyone who passes judgment on other cultures from their own perspective is close-minded. I don't like associating with those kinda of ppl...
rufuspaul
07-29-2009, 02:26 PM
They can be both.
So true. It's fun to play fetch with your dinner before you slaughter it. It's kinda like when I cook a lobster I always let it crawl around the kitchen floor and play with it like a pet before cruelly boiling it alive.
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 02:40 PM
So true. It's fun to play fetch with your dinner before you slaughter it. It's kinda like when I cook a lobster I always let it crawl around the kitchen floor and play with it like a pet before cruelly boiling it alive.
LOL, mad d*ck. repped
KubiliusF
07-29-2009, 02:48 PM
its just cultural difference. Indians may give you EEEEWWWW for what eat daily. Dont judge
twolvesfan
07-29-2009, 03:00 PM
So true. It's fun to play fetch with your dinner before you slaughter it. It's kinda like when I cook a lobster I always let it crawl around the kitchen floor and play with it like a pet before cruelly boiling it alive.
if you steam a lobster they die in less then 10 seconds, i would assume it is around that quick for live boiling as well
DeuceWallaces
07-29-2009, 03:28 PM
I don't agree with that, and if I grew up with cattle and pigs in my house as pets I prolly wouldn't be able to eat them either.
rufuspaul
07-29-2009, 03:33 PM
if you steam a lobster they die in less then 10 seconds, i would assume it is around that quick for live boiling as well
Actually steaming is the way I do it. Also if you dip them in a pale of fresh water just before cooking they die almost instantly.
shlver
07-29-2009, 03:49 PM
sure. but dog is a highly visible and celebrated component of traditional korean food. Havent had it myself, but then, Ive never gone to the ROK. Wheres ced when you need him. My friends who have eaten it say its quite tasty.
:wtf: No it's not. Dog is barely eaten in industrialized cities such as Seoul or Busan.
boozehound
07-29-2009, 03:51 PM
:wtf: No it's not. Dog is barely eaten in industrialized cities such as Seoul or Busan.
so? learn to read. Its a traditional dish in Korean Cuisine.
shlver
07-29-2009, 03:53 PM
so? learn to read. Its a traditional dish in Korean Cuisine.
It is not a traditional dish in Korea. Have you been to Korea? No? I have. The only restaurants that serve dog are in the countryside.:no:
Dog is also used for medicinal purposes also. Dog was only eaten during wartimes, where food was scarce and is now only eaten for medicinal purposes and not as commonly as normal food.
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 03:55 PM
It is not a traditional dish in Korea. Have you been to Korea? No? I have. The only restaurants that serve dog are in the countryside.:no:
Did you try the BoShinTang?
My uncle totally tricked me and told me it was beef, that b@stard. I found it decent myself.
shlver
07-29-2009, 03:58 PM
Did you try the BoShinTang?
My uncle totally tricked me and told me it was beef, that b@stard. I found it decent myself.
I personally never have eaten dog.
Penny37
07-29-2009, 03:59 PM
It is not a traditional dish in Korea. Have you been to Korea? No? I have. The only restaurants that serve dog are in the countryside.:no:
Dog is also used for medicinal purposes also. Dog was only eaten during wartimes, where food was scarce and is now only eaten for medicinal purposes and not as commonly as normal food.
That's not true.
You are right in that dog is not a tradition Korean dish but you can most definitely get it in Seoul or Busan.
boozehound
07-29-2009, 04:01 PM
It is not a traditional dish in Korea. Have you been to Korea? No? I have. The only restaurants that serve dog are in the countryside.:no:
Dog is also used for medicinal purposes also. Dog was only eaten during wartimes, where food was scarce and is now only eaten for medicinal purposes and not as commonly as normal food.
the country side huh? Lets see, a asian country founded on peasant labor agriculture.... hmmn, where might the traditional dishes still be found? You can get dog in seoul if you want. Sure, its much more prevelant out in the rural areas. which speaks to it being a traditional dish, since the rural areas tend to mantain traditions and cuisines much longer than the recently expanding urban areas, which a much more cosmopolitan complexion.
You sound like you are embarrassed by it and are trying to distance yourself.
As I pointed out, never been to ROK. I have lots of friends who have, and all of them that have wanted to have had no issue finding dog to try. even in Seoul.
shlver
07-29-2009, 04:01 PM
That's not true.
You are right in that dog is not a tradition Korean dish but you can most definitely get it in Seoul or Busan.
Well, the restaurants I went to did not have dog on the menu.:confusedshrug: There are many restaurants, I might be wrong, but it is not common.
shlver
07-29-2009, 04:03 PM
the country side huh? Lets see, a asian country founded on peasant labor agriculture.... hmmn, where might the traditional dishes still be found? You can get dog in seoul if you want. Sure, its much more prevelant out in the rural areas. which speaks to it being a traditional dish, since the rural areas tend to mantain traditions and cuisines much longer than the recently expanding urban areas, which a much more cosmopolitan complexion.
You sound like you are embarrassed by it and are trying to distance yourself.
As I pointed out, never been to ROK. I have lots of friends who have, and all of them that have wanted to have had no issue finding dog to try. even in Seoul.
I'm saying that dog is not a prevalent part of Korean cuisine. I'm actually proud of my culture. Korean cuisine is amazing.
You should try bulgogi or dukkbokki. Amazing stuff.
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 04:03 PM
That's not true.
You are right in that dog is not a tradition Korean dish but you can most definitely get it in Seoul or Busan.
It is very, VERY rare. Especially in the more populous streets of the major Korean cities, where the city attempts to be as western as possible. if you take a walk down a typical Seoul street, you're much more inclined to find Pizza Huts, higher end korean cuisine, sushi, etc. I don't recall a single dog restaurant in Seoul.
I did go shopping in this giant market area of Korea, though, not sure what it was called, it was one of those things where there's hundreds of open street vendors and you can bargain with them and stuff which was freakin awesome. It was in a city and there was this one creepy dirty alley near the market where there were like 6 dog restaurants in a row which made me go :wtf: .
boozehound
07-29-2009, 04:04 PM
That's not true.
You are right in that dog is not a tradition Korean dish but you can most definitely get it in Seoul or Busan.
oh really?
The consumption of dog meat in Korea dates back to antiquity. The primary dog breed raised for meat, the nureongi (누렁이), differs from those breeds raised for pets which Koreans may keep in their homes.[30] For those who consume dog meat, they usually do so during the summer months in either roasted form or prepared in soups. The most popular of these soups is gaejang-guk (also called bosintang), a spicy stew meant to balance the body's heat during the summer months; followers of the custom claim this is done to ensure good health by balancing one's gi, or vital energy of the body. A 19th century version of gaejang-guk explains that the dish is prepared by boiling dog meat with scallions and chili powder. Variations of the dish contain chicken and bamboo shoots. While the dishes are still popular in Korea with a segment of the population, dog is not as widely consumed as beef, chicken, and pork.[31]
from the wiki, but well cited. so I posted it.
Its not a traditional dish, but there is a specific breed bred to be used as meat huh?
The only people I see trying to say it isnt (on the net, not this site) are cosmopolitan koreans who are embarrassed by it
Penny37
07-29-2009, 04:04 PM
Well, the restaurants I went to did not have dog on the menu.:confusedshrug: There are many restaurants, I might be wrong, but it is not common.
Yeah, like I said, it's not common.
If you're looking to get dog meat you definitely have to go to restaraunts that specialize in it, but there are many in the big cities.
Expensive too. 60 dollars plus per person.
None of the restaurants I went to had dog meat, either.
boozehound
07-29-2009, 04:05 PM
I'm saying that dog is not a prevalent part of Korean cuisine. I'm actually proud of my culture. Korean cuisine is amazing.
You should try bulgogi or dukkbokki. Amazing stuff.
I love bulgogi. Unfortunately the place that had it in this town is no more.
Havent tried dukkbokki. What is it?
I wasnt saying that it is widespread, I was saying that its part of the korean food tradition (it has a long history).
shlver
07-29-2009, 04:05 PM
oh really?
The consumption of dog meat in Korea dates back to antiquity. The primary dog breed raised for meat, the nureongi (누렁이), differs from those breeds raised for pets which Koreans may keep in their homes.[30] For those who consume dog meat, they usually do so during the summer months in either roasted form or prepared in soups. The most popular of these soups is gaejang-guk (also called bosintang), a spicy stew meant to balance the body's heat during the summer months; followers of the custom claim this is done to ensure good health by balancing one's gi, or vital energy of the body. A 19th century version of gaejang-guk explains that the dish is prepared by boiling dog meat with scallions and chili powder. Variations of the dish contain chicken and bamboo shoots. While the dishes are still popular in Korea with a segment of the population, dog is not as widely consumed as beef, chicken, and pork.[31]
from the wiki, but well cited. so I posted it.
Its not a traditional dish, but there is a specific breed bred to be used as meat huh?
The only people I see trying to say it isnt (on the net, not this site) are cosmopolitan koreans who are embarrassed by it
See, that citation shows that dog is mainly used for medicinal purposes and is not a traditional dish.
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 04:06 PM
I love bulgogi. Unfortunately the place that had it in this town is no more.
Havent tried dukkbokki. What is it?
I wasnt saying that it is widespread, I was saying that its part of the korean food tradition (it has a long history).
ddukkbookki is rice cakes in a spicy sauce. a very popular street food. often eaten alongside of fish cakes and mixed fried veggies. deliciouis
shlver
07-29-2009, 04:08 PM
I love bulgogi. Unfortunately the place that had it in this town is no more.
Havent tried dukkbokki. What is it?
I wasnt saying that it is widespread, I was saying that its part of the korean food tradition (it has a long history).
Dukkbokki is this.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ExAtnJpieOg/Ry_xR2xB7lI/AAAAAAAAAAo/G5Z1MeWc4GU/s320/ejrqhrrl-dydtnswkd.jpg
Yes, dog as a dish has been around for a long time.
shlver
07-29-2009, 04:09 PM
ddukkbookki is rice cakes in a spicy sauce. a very popular street food. often eaten alongside of fish cakes and mixed fried veggies. deliciouis
You're not Korean right? You know a lot about Korean culture.
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 04:11 PM
You're not Korean right? You know a lot about Korean culture.
Course I am. I've been to Korea twice the past four years haha.
Though, I must say Kalbi > Bulgogi.
Restaurant ddukbokki cannot compare at all to the street stuff too.
boozehound
07-29-2009, 04:12 PM
See, that citation shows that dog is mainly used for medicinal purposes and is not a traditional dish.
I wonder. Are you confusing popular with traditional?
and food is medicine.
shlver
07-29-2009, 04:15 PM
Course I am. I've been to Korea twice the past four years haha.
Though, I must say Kalbi > Bulgogi.
Restaurant ddukbokki cannot compare at all to the street stuff too.
Oh you are? Cool. I like bulgogi more.
Don't you think that Korean people are less friendly than people in America?
shlver
07-29-2009, 04:17 PM
I wonder. Are you confusing popular with traditional?
and food is medicine.
Tradition is cultural continuity in social attitudes, customs, and institution. How can something become traditional if only a minority participate in it? I might be wrong in my thinking but please explain.
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 04:20 PM
Oh you are? Cool. I like bulgogi more.
Don't you think that Korean people are less friendly than people in America?
Mmm, that depends.
Me, I live in a town where it is 95+% white, but from my experience
In America:
Older People - tend to be a lot more conservative, are pretty unfriendly to outsiders and people they're not comfortable with
Young - more or less about the same as the American youth. though I HATE, absolutely HATE how Koreans tend to hang out with only Koreans. I have friends both white and Korean and fail to see whats so uncomfortable about being diverse in your friends
In Korea:
Older- Same as above older people
Young- are more friendly than older people, but a lot seem to be more conservative and shall i say.. nerdy? for a lack of better words. but there are a lot of younger people who are pretty cool too.
Mainly, I find that the older generation is too conservative and cool towards others
shlver
07-29-2009, 04:23 PM
Mmm, that depends.
Me, I live in a town where it is 95+% white, but from my experience
In America:
Older People - tend to be a lot more conservative, are pretty unfriendly to outsiders and people they're not comfortable with
Young - more or less about the same as the American youth. though I HATE, absolutely HATE how Koreans tend to hang out with only Koreans. I have friends both white and Korean and fail to see whats so uncomfortable about being diverse in your friends
In Korea:
Older- Same as above older people
Young- are more friendly than older people, but a lot seem to be more conservative and shall i say.. nerdy? for a lack of better words. but there are a lot of younger people who are pretty cool too.
Mainly, I find that the older generation is too conservative and cool towards others
Yep, finding teenagers that play sports in Korea is hard except soccer. They all play video games.
Are you fluent in Korean?
Do you listen to Korean rap?
Have you listened to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFNx5M_eOto
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 04:29 PM
Yep, finding teenagers that play sports in Korea is hard except soccer. They all play video games.
Are you fluent in Korean?
Do you listen to Korean rap?
Have you listened to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFNx5M_eOto
I know, StarCraft is their national sport -_-, they even have a channel for it.
No, I'm not fluent, but I'm good enough to get by. I'm going to take more classes in it in college this year cause i'd really like to study abroad there for a year or so.
Can't say Im a big fan of Korean rap haha, it just seems to flow really weird.
I'm more into things like SG Wannabe, 8Eight, VOS, maybe ss501, some DBSK, and of course SNSD
shlver
07-29-2009, 04:33 PM
I know, StarCraft is their national sport -_-, they even have a channel for it.
No, I'm not fluent, but I'm good enough to get by. I'm going to take more classes in it in college this year cause i'd really like to study abroad there for a year or so.
Can't say Im a big fan of Korean rap haha, it just seems to flow really weird.
I'm more into things like SG Wannabe, 8Eight, VOS, maybe ss501, some DBSK, and of course SNSD
:oldlol: I have that channel on DirecTV. I watch it sometimes.
I listen to all of what you listed. I like SG Wannabe and VOS the most.
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 04:40 PM
yeah, I do like a lot of the Korean slow stuff.
and im sure u meant to includ SNSD? :cheers:
Manute for Ever!
07-29-2009, 08:10 PM
I ate it while living in Daejeon, South Korea. They promoted the soup for the same reason, plus it is supposed to increase virility, just tastes like fatty beef.
Yung D-Will
07-29-2009, 08:30 PM
I ate it while living in Daejeon, South Korea. They promoted the soup for the same reason, plus it is supposed to increase virility, just tastes like fatty beef.
You made me barf up my sloppy joe
supersmashbros
07-29-2009, 08:52 PM
This thread is getting more attention or posts than I would expect! Anyways, I only wish I could have a taste of dog meat before I die (and please, any violently charismatic dog lovers on here could give me all the death threats they want, but I am gonna get my taste of dog no matter how much they hate me)
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 09:02 PM
I ate it while living in Daejeon, South Korea. They promoted the soup for the same reason, plus it is supposed to increase virility, just tastes like fatty beef.
How long did you live in Dae Jeon for? I actually went there for about 2 weeks for a short summer english program at a local church there. im assuming you're not korean though? one of the highlights of daejeon - cheap ass street food and $1.50 jjahjahngmyun >_<
goldenryan
07-29-2009, 09:10 PM
They can be both. Anyone who passes judgment on other cultures from their own perspective is close-minded. I don't like associating with those kinda of ppl...
ok, so boiling a dog who is intelligent and can be trained .. is ok because it's their culture:wtf:
Snoop_Cat
07-29-2009, 09:21 PM
ok, so boiling a dog who is intelligent and can be trained .. is ok because it's their culture:wtf:
pigs are considered one of the smartest domestic animals in world, but americans just love to eat them, don't they
supersmashbros
07-29-2009, 09:22 PM
ok, so boiling a dog who is intelligent and can be trained .. is ok because it's their culture:wtf:
Your being ignorant coz the other animals that we eat (the majority of them) can also be trained and display a similar if not higher level of intelligence. Pigs, contrary to pop belief, are clean intelligent animals with cognitive ability of equal to a 3 year old human (which is par if not better than a dog). Scientific studies prove it.
Besides, I suppose a superior extraterrestial species that enslaves humanity wouldn't give a sheet about eating humans. Even though we have an incredible level of intelligence, they would hypothetically dominate us, and hence eating us would be morally correct in their opinion.
I am a PETA or animal rights activist coz I eat animals myself, but the point I am trying to make here is that the only reason we choose to eat some animals over others is because of:
1. Profitibility (it's more profitable to have dogs and cats as pets over pigs, cows, and goats)
2. Our cultural values (we like cats and dogs more than any other animals...screw the rest boil them, skin them, roast them alive...nobody gives a sheet). On the other hand, most Hindus venerate cattle...I guess their cultural values aren't worth sheet because who gives a crap about other's beliefs. Horray, ethnocentrism!
I stand on the ground of not giving a crap about cultural values on what animals I want to eat. Dogs, cats, cow, pigs, chicken, goat, and etc are all my menu. As long as the animal is edible, affordable, available, and exotic (aka the cool factor) I ll eat it.
Butters
07-29-2009, 09:36 PM
Eat what ever the hell you want:banana:
supersmashbros
07-29-2009, 09:43 PM
Eat what ever the hell you want:banana:
I couldn't have said it any better myself (but I had to spend 10 minutes typing the previous incoherent piece of crap).
Smokee
07-29-2009, 10:29 PM
Damn gooks always trying to eat my dog
supersmashbros
07-29-2009, 10:56 PM
I know, StarCraft is their national sport -_-, they even have a channel for it.
No, I'm not fluent, but I'm good enough to get by. I'm going to take more classes in it in college this year cause i'd really like to study abroad there for a year or so.
Can't say Im a big fan of Korean rap haha, it just seems to flow really weird.
I'm more into things like SG Wannabe, 8Eight, VOS, maybe ss501, some DBSK, and of course SNSD
I know. I think Warcraft 3 is also a pro sport of their's. I am just a little surprised StarCraft can become that competitive, but then again there are pro DDR and GH competitions.
Smokee
07-29-2009, 11:47 PM
I know. I think Warcraft 3 is also a pro sport of their's. I am just a little surprised StarCraft can become that competitive, but then again there are pro DDR and GH competitions.
World of Warcraft is a e sport too :lol
My beef is whenever i see a dog dish they have the heads, paws etc etc. I dont see resturants in America serving you ham with the pig head on the side.
Manute for Ever!
07-30-2009, 08:09 AM
How long did you live in Dae Jeon for? I actually went there for about 2 weeks for a short summer english program at a local church there. im assuming you're not korean though? one of the highlights of daejeon - cheap ass street food and $1.50 jjahjahngmyun >_<
I lived there from June-December 2007. I'm an Aussie, was teaching English at St. Mary's Elementary. Daejeon is a cool place.
ALBballer
07-30-2009, 08:24 AM
As much as I hate domestic animals (and I have a shady past of inflicting pain upon them Vick style) I wouldn't be able to eat a dog. I just can't. It seems so wrong.
Similar to how I was raised in a Muslim household and I found anything of pig to be disgusting growing up. It wasn't till recently I was able to eat bacon, but I won't go near ham. :oldlol: And I would never touch those pigs with the apples in the mouth. Fcking weird Americans. Not to mention you black people that eat pig's feet is gross. Da fck is wrong with you people?
Basically it's a cultural thing.
brantonli
07-30-2009, 08:59 AM
Well North Korea only opened their first fast food restaurant last week, and the 'cheeseburgers' and 'hamburgers' names were changed to dissassociate from Western influences.
Manute for Ever!
07-30-2009, 09:31 AM
The only problem with it that I can really see is the possible illnesses we could potentially obtain, due to the fact that we (Westerners) don't traditionally eat carnivorous mammals.
twolvesfan
07-30-2009, 09:45 AM
My beef is whenever i see a dog dish they have the heads, paws etc etc. I dont see resturants in America serving you ham with the pig head on the side.
go down to Mexico
supersmashbros
07-30-2009, 10:51 AM
The only problem with it that I can really see is the possible illnesses we could potentially obtain, due to the fact that we (Westerners) don't traditionally eat carnivorous mammals.
Keep in mind that pigs and some animals we eat are omnivorous which is only one step from carnivorous. btw, most fish we eat are carnivorous or at omnivorous (And don't use the arguement that fish aren't animals which they techanically are coz they are Chorodata back boned animals like us). The only problem in eating dogs or other carnivorous mammals is that require meat as part their diet which makes it economically inefficient in farming them.
Snoop_Cat
07-30-2009, 12:40 PM
My beef is whenever i see a dog dish they have the heads, paws etc etc. I dont see resturants in America serving you ham with the pig head on the side.
Most dog dishes are served in a stew form without the head and legs. There's also an American dish with a whole pig and an apple in its mouth? I think the full dog picture is often shown because other cultures are uncomfortable with dog eating and wish to show off the worst aspects of it, while in fact its not that common
supersmashbros
07-30-2009, 02:21 PM
Except when a dog is trying to attack you...
In that case, defend yourself against it, and if you happen to kill it, then should be obligated to eat!
boozehound
07-30-2009, 02:51 PM
Most dog dishes are served in a stew form without the head and legs. There's also an American dish with a whole pig and an apple in its mouth? I think the full dog picture is often shown because other cultures are uncomfortable with dog eating and wish to show off the worst aspects of it, while in fact its not that common
thats not an american dish, its a french/european dish.
and ALBaller, pickled pigs feet are more than just a black dish, its a southern dish. what about chicken feet?
32jazz
07-30-2009, 02:57 PM
Thread is making me hungry.:confusedshrug:
Baked or Braised Beagle
Chow Chow Chow Mein
Terrier Tetrazzini
Afghan Au Gratin
Bar-be-que Bulldog
Schnauzer Soup
Poodles & Noodles
flipogb
07-30-2009, 03:17 PM
eating dog in my country used to be ok and accepted
it isn't the case anymore specially with the younger people
I wouldn't do it but I would not look down at someone for eating it
flipogb
07-30-2009, 03:18 PM
Thread is making me hungry.:confusedshrug:
Baked or Braised Beagle
Chow Chow Chow Mein
Terrier Tetrazzini
Afghan Au Gratin
Bar-be-que Bulldog
Schnauzer Soup
Poodles & Noodles
stupid post, dogs that are eaten are bred to be eaten, they don't eat
expensive breeds sold at pet stores
32jazz
07-30-2009, 04:19 PM
stupid post, dogs that are eaten are bred to be eaten, they don't eat
expensive breeds sold at pet stores
Stupid reply:confusedshrug: If you bothered to read more than one of my posts you would be well aware of my understanding/respect for cultures in which the eating of dogs is accepted/traditional. But if it upsets people like you here are some more recipes:
Fox Terrier Fricasse
Seared Springer Spaniel
Sauteed Sussex Spaniel
Maltese Melt
Pointer Pot Pie
Blood hound Sausage
Parboiled/Pickled Pekingese
Rotissirie Rhodesian Ridgeback
Roasted Rack O' Rottweiler
Pit Bull & Potatoes
rufuspaul
07-30-2009, 04:30 PM
l
Maltese Melt
:roll: :roll: :roll:
supersmashbros
07-30-2009, 05:15 PM
stupid post, dogs that are eaten are bred to be eaten, they don't eat
expensive breeds sold at pet stores
Not necessarily, but dogs are eaten logically should be the ones that are cheaper and easier to breed (meaning they yield more meat vs the amount of cost to raise them. Chewalalas and poodos are therefore not profitable).
Manute for Ever!
07-30-2009, 08:01 PM
Keep in mind that pigs and some animals we eat are omnivorous which is only one step from carnivorous. btw, most fish we eat are carnivorous or at omnivorous (And don't use the arguement that fish aren't animals which they techanically are coz they are Chorodata back boned animals like us). The only problem in eating dogs or other carnivorous mammals is that require meat as part their diet which makes it economically inefficient in farming them.
I used the word "mammal" because, yes, we eat a lot of carnivorous fish, reptiles, etc. The bolded part makes perfect sense :cheers:
supersmashbros
07-31-2009, 01:18 AM
I used the word "mammal" because, yes, we eat a lot of carnivorous fish, reptiles, etc. The bolded part makes perfect sense :cheers:
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: one of my few constructive posts eh?
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