How does Vince McMahon seem to beat all other sports/ufc @ getting the best freaks

[giantgonzolez]

I mean I was just flipping around the channels today and I saw this dude Ezekiel Jackson and at first I thought it was Bob Sapp, but then I realized that this dude is WAY WAY too fast and quick to be Bob Sapp or Ahmed Johnson. This guy's basically a 350lbs monster with the speed and agility of a Brock Lesnar. This photo below does not do him justice at all, he's like 10 time the size and way more ripped than this photo shows.

http://nsa08.casimages.com/img/2009/06/17/090617071446114276.jpg

[BankShot]

I mean I was just flipping around the channels today and I saw this dude Ezekiel Jackson and at first I thought it was Bob Sapp, but then I realized that this dude is WAY WAY too fast and quick to be Bob Sapp or Ahmed Johnson. This guy's basically a 350lbs monster with the speed and agility of a Brock Lesnar. This photo below does not do him justice at all, he's like 10 time the size and way more ripped than this photo shows.

http://nsa08.casimages.com/img/2009/06/17/090617071446114276.jpg

My guess is that he's not skilled enough for mainstream sports or mixed martial arts, and too much of a wuss to actually fight for a living in mma.

If he was good enough for any of the aforementioned sports he'd be playing/participating in one of them and not in a redneck soap opera

[giantgonzolez]

My guess is that he's not skilled enough for mainstream sports or mixed martial arts, and too much of a wuss to actually fight for a living in mma.

If he was good enough for any of the aforementioned sports he'd be playing/participating in one of them and not in a redneck soap opera

They used to say the same kind of stuff about guys like Dan Severn and Brock Lesnar but that basically proved that just because somebody's a pro wrestler doesn't mean that they can't beat up 99.999% of people in the world.

[B-Low]

If he was good enough for any of the aforementioned sports he'd be playing/participating in one of them and not in a redneck soap opera

That's not really true there's a lot of wrestlers that are good enough at other sports to compete professionally, but they enjoy the entertainment factor of wrestling so they stick with that til they decide they wanna do something else. Just cuz you dont choose a path doesnt mean youre not good enough for it. There's MUCH MUCH MUCH better money in wrestling than there is in MMA too.

[Sicknote]

..what the **** bro?

[BankShot]

They used to say the same kind of stuff about guys like Dan Severn and Brock Lesnar but that basically proved that just because somebody's a pro wrestler doesn't mean that they can't beat up 99.999% of people in the world.

Lesnars completely different because he WAS a world-class athlete before he was in the WWE, then proved he was STILL a world-class athlete by competing in the UFC.

Jackson's 31, and as far as I can find, hasn't done anything athletic at a high enough level for anyone to mention.

[BankShot]

That's not really true there's a lot of wrestlers that are good enough at other sports to compete professionally, but they enjoy the entertainment factor of wrestling so they stick with that til they decide they wanna do something else. Just cuz you dont choose a path doesnt mean youre not good enough for it. There's MUCH MUCH MUCH better money in wrestling than there is in MMA too.

Jackson signed a developmental deal in 2007 to professionally wrestle at the age of 29, so its not like he decided to to pro wrestling instead of a different career in athletics or mixed martial arts.

If he was talented or skilled enough to be in other forms of athletics, he would have been throughout his 20s

Edit: I guess he was a professional body builder before doing pro wrestling... which probably means he couldn't cut it anymore in the body building circuit so he signed onto wrestling.

[giantgonzolez]

Jackson signed a developmental deal in 2007 to professionally wrestle at the age of 29, so its not like he decided to to pro wrestling instead of a different career in athletics or mixed martial arts.

If he was talented or skilled enough to be in other forms of athletics, he would have been throughout his 20s

Edit: I guess he was a professional body builder before doing pro wrestling... which probably means he couldn't cut it anymore in the body building circuit so he signed onto wrestling.

Maybe he wasn't a huge guy back then. The guy's a freak of nature, it's extremely rare to see a guy that big that's that quick and agile.

[BankShot]

I guess he might have been a late bloomer, or was more interested in entertainment than athletics, or didn't have the means or academics to pursue athletics outside of highschool.

However my perspective on things like this is as follows: if he seems like he could be a pro athlete at 31 but wasn't one in his 20's, then there has to be a reason why he wasn't may it be lack of skill or talent, legal issues, academic issues, or just straight up steroid use later in his 20s.

[B-Low]

I guess he might have been a late bloomer, or was more interested in entertainment than athletics, or didn't have the means or academics to pursue athletics outside of highschool.

However my perspective on things like this is as follows: if he seems like he could be a pro athlete at 31 but wasn't one in his 20's, then there has to be a reason why he wasn't may it be lack of skill or talent, legal issues, academic issues, or just straight up steroid use later in his 20s.

Or he might have just been one of those guys that always wanted to do it but was afraid to follow the dream, then one day he got motivated and decided to do what he always wanted to. Happens a lot, when someone who is getting up there in years says "f*ck it im gonna do what i wanted to do when i was younger"

[T.O.RAPS]

it's funny how the convo keeps going despite the pic of the naked dude holding his dick...

[giantgonzolez]

Or he might have just been one of those guys that always wanted to do it but was afraid to follow the dream, then one day he got motivated and decided to do what he always wanted to. Happens a lot, when someone who is getting up there in years says "f*ck it im gonna do what i wanted to do when i was younger"

Well, I found out that he used to be a Pro Bodybuilder. The reason he wasn't a football player was probably because he was just interested in bodybuilding and not football. It's amazing how skinny he used to be back in the day.
He looks only like 6'4 250 lbs back then in his bodybuilding photo, now he looks 6'4" 350 lbs.
His real name is Rycklon Stephens
http://images.tvrage.com/people/79/234328.jpg

[BankShot]

it's funny how the convo keeps going despite the pic of the naked dude holding his dick...

Some of us are mature enough to just ignore stupid s*it like that and go on with our lives

[B-Low]

Some of us are mature enough to just ignore stupid s*it like that and go on with our lives

this

[Positive]

I'm pretty sure the main reason for this is roids, it seems like all those guys that are massive like that have roided at one point or another.

[The Big Skinny]

I mean I was just flipping around the channels today and I saw this dude Ezekiel Jackson and at first I thought it was Bob Sapp, but then I realized that this dude is WAY WAY too fast and quick to be Bob Sapp or Ahmed Johnson. This guy's basically a 350lbs monster with the speed and agility of a Brock Lesnar. This photo below does not do him justice at all, he's like 10 time the size and way more ripped than this photo shows.

http://nsa08.casimages.com/img/2009/06/17/090617071446114276.jpg

The F*ck is wrong with his lower chest....

seems like he needs to do some decline benching...

[Reef]

He's nowhere close to 350. That's more Bob Sapp territory. Wrestling weights are always inflated. His weight on Wiki says he's 285 at 6-2. Still big, but not unbelievable.

[PistolPete]

Bobby Lashley was bigger. Plus, the WWE pays way more money, and they often turn their back on PED use.

[Lebron23]

I'm pretty sure the main reason for this is roids, it seems like all those guys that are massive like that have roided at one point or another.


WWE have a Wellness Policy after the Chris Benoit Tragedy.

[iamgine]

Simple answer:

WWE have much less risk, much less intense and require much less skill. In some cases it brings more money. Even Dennis Rodman and Karl Malone could last in the WWE.

[RedBlackAttack]

Simple answer:

WWE have much less risk, much less intense and require much less skill. In some cases it brings more money. Even Dennis Rodman and Karl Malone could last in the WWE.
At the same time, 'wrestlers' in the WWE take much, much more physical punishment than MMA fighters. They have to travel around the world and perform with crazy injuries on a nightly basis.

In MMA, you train for months for a fight and, if you suffer an injury, the fight is postponed/canceled.

In that respect, the WWE is much tougher.

But, a lot of the guys in the WWE likely have no clue how to really fight. They are entertainers and there is nothing wrong with that. They are also allowed to take as much PEs as humanly possible, which helps them look like 'freaks' when they probably aren't natural athletic freaks.

There is a lot more money for the top guys in WWE... However, if guys crave real competition without the grueling schedule of fake wrestling, they would be wise to try their hand at MMA.

It is like comparing apples and oranges.

[B-Low]

At the same time, 'wrestlers' in the WWE take much, much more physical punishment than MMA fighters. They have to travel around the world and perform with crazy injuries on a nightly basis.

In MMA, you train for months for a fight and, if you suffer an injury, the fight is postponed/canceled.

In that respect, the WWE is much tougher.

But, a lot of the guys in the WWE likely have no clue how to really fight. They are entertainers and there is nothing wrong with that. They are also allowed to take as much PEs as humanly possible, which helps them look like 'freaks' when they probably aren't natural athletic freaks.

There is a lot more money for the top guys in WWE... However, if guys crave real competition without the grueling schedule of fake wrestling, they would be wise to try their hand at MMA.

It is like comparing apples and oranges.

very true. People completely underrate the physical strain/injuries that WWE guys go through. It really does take a lot of skill to do. Not the same type of skill as MMA but just as much skill to perform all that stuff

[oh the horror]

People underrate just how much of a beating wrestlers take out there in companies like the WWE and such. You have to be physically strong of course...and your endurance has to be on par to perform a match...you have to not only look out for your own safety, but the safety of the person in the ring with you....the mats HURT too...its not like they're landing on a soft pillow...its literally like a board, with springs....you SPLAT on the mat....and it has some give to it...but essentially you do hit hard....and continuously....


Im not saying they're the most hardcore on the planet...but these men ABUSE their bodies out there...it is NOT an easy busy by any stretch of the imagination.

[RedBlackAttack]

People underrate just how much of a beating wrestlers take out there in companies like the WWE and such. You have to be physically strong of course...and your endurance has to be on par to perform a match...you have to not only look out for your own safety, but the safety of the person in the ring with you....the mats HURT too...its not like they're landing on a soft pillow...its literally like a board, with springs....you SPLAT on the mat....and it has some give to it...but essentially you do hit hard....and continuously....


Im not saying they're the most hardcore on the planet...but these men ABUSE their bodies out there...it is NOT an easy busy by any stretch of the imagination.
...which is why they all end up becoming dependent on pain killers to ease their injuries and steroids to help their endurance. People think that fake wrestlers only use PEs to make themselves look huge... That is only part of it. The major benefit of steroids is that they take away the need for healing time that your muscles would normally need in between workouts/events.

Btw, it is very obvious to me that Lesnar was on steroids during his stint in the WWE. He isn't nearly as cut now as he was in his WWE days. It is obvious... I don't even know why he is denying it.

[oh the horror]

..Btw, it is very obvious to me that Lesnar was on steroids during his stint in the WWE. He isn't nearly as cut now as he was in his WWE days. It is obvious... I don't even know why he is denying it.


Hell yes. That man used to look like a monster....you could tell he was juicing just by looking at his damn NECK....at one point, he had no neck...it was ALL muscle.