View Full Version : Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds is better than Pulp Fiction
Gundress
08-18-2009, 04:30 PM
my friend told me that he just saw an advance screening in the UK, and he said this film is a flat out epic MASTERPIECE Tarantino has finally topped 'Pulp Fiction'.He said Inglourious Basterds has to be one of the most refreshing pieces of work in years. Everything from the script, music, acting, cinematography, directing was just AWESOME!.
He told me that you have to be patient with most scenes as QT lets the dialogue linger, but that's one of the genius parts of the film.
Brad Pitt, Christoph Waltz, Eli Roth etc... all give astonishing performances. The guy who plays Omar is good also.
he just still buzzed to the max after seeing this, he will go and watch this again 100%.
Even though the script might not be historically correct, it plays out well.
he said this movie might well just be QT's Masterpiece
I told him, Horse sh!t. Definitely don't believe that Inglourious Basterd better than Pulp Fiction.
And he said yes this IS better than Pulp Fiction, half his cinema were saying the same thing after they left & told me that the movie even got a round of a applause (rare!!!)
he said that Trust him on this, at first he was like 'sh!t it can't be better than PF'........., then the last 30 mins of the movie proved him wrong.
he said that hands down QT strongest film in all departments, this is his NCFOM, TWBB.
Like he said MASTERPIECE
But I still.... can't f*cking wait to see this.
sergiorodriguez
08-18-2009, 05:27 PM
Quentin Tarantino and Pulp Fiction are so overrated, Guy Ritchie and his film snatch is so much better than anything Tarantino has ever done.
lazerface
08-18-2009, 05:29 PM
gotta see this.
DonDadda59
08-18-2009, 05:36 PM
Quentin Tarantino and Pulp Fiction are so overrated, Guy Ritchie and his film snatch is so much better than anything Tarantino has ever done.
hmmmm, I like both Tarantino and Ritchie. Lock, Stock, and two smoking barrels was great too. Don't think either director is overrated, especially not the work in Pulp Fiction.
Gundress
08-18-2009, 05:41 PM
Reviews for this have been getting better and better...( http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/inglourious_basterds/ )
This review from Slant Magazine (Slant is usually very good for thoughtful reviews and analysis) has me especially excited. The critic makes it clear that he's not a big Tarantino fan and even calls Death Proof "cruel and unusual punishment." However, he says some very positive things, most interesting of which are his statements that Inglorious Basterds exhibits both maturity and restraint and features a distinct human element often absent in Tarantino's work.
http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=4455
sergiorodriguez
08-18-2009, 05:44 PM
i dont like tarantino because of his tendency to put gay rape in all his films
Sonic R
08-18-2009, 05:47 PM
hmmmm, I like both Tarantino and Ritchie. Lock, Stock, and two smoking barrels was great too. Don't think either director is overrated, especially not the work in Pulp Fiction.
Same.
I like both and both of their movies have been very enjoyable. I am not too big into movies, but I own DVDs like Snatch, and Pulp Fiction. Those are films I enjoy watching many times that they are worth owning
RidonKs
08-18-2009, 06:20 PM
Quentin Tarantino and Pulp Fiction are so overrated, Guy Ritchie and his film snatch is so much better than anything Tarantino has ever done.
pfft
PFFFT
I can't wait for this ****
Clifton
08-18-2009, 08:03 PM
I'm looking forward to this, even though I don't really like Tarantino normally. I loved "Death Proof." Hated Reservoir dogs. Hated Kill Bills. Mixed feelings toward Pulp Fiction. Haven't seen anything else he's made.
But there's something about the trailers I've seen that sets a good vibe for me. Maybe it's because Ryan from The Office is in it... I don't know. We'll see.
RidonKs
08-18-2009, 08:16 PM
I'm mostly looking forward to seeing this guy collect a Nazi skull
http://www.gbdesigns.com/freaksandgeeks/photos/samm_levine/levine.jpg
Hotlantadude81
08-19-2009, 03:00 AM
my friend told me that he just saw an advance screening in the UK, and he said this film is a flat out epic MASTERPIECE Tarantino has finally topped 'Pulp Fiction'.He said Inglourious Basterds has to be one of the most refreshing pieces of work in years. Everything from the script, music, acting, cinematography, directing was just AWESOME!.
He told me that you have to be patient with most scenes as QT lets the dialogue linger, but that's one of the genius parts of the film.
Brad Pitt, Christoph Waltz, Eli Roth etc... all give astonishing performances. The guy who plays Omar is good also.
he just still buzzed to the max after seeing this, he will go and watch this again 100%.
Even though the script might not be historically correct, it plays out well.
he said this movie might well just be QT's Masterpiece
I told him, Horse sh!t. Definitely don't believe that Inglourious Basterd better than Pulp Fiction.
And he said yes this IS better than Pulp Fiction, half his cinema were saying the same thing after they left & told me that the movie even got a round of a applause (rare!!!)
he said that Trust him on this, at first he was like 'sh!t it can't be better than PF'........., then the last 30 mins of the movie proved him wrong.
he said that hands down QT strongest film in all departments, this is his NCFOM, TWBB.
Like he said MASTERPIECE
But I still.... can't f*cking wait to see this.
Well, considering PF is only a 7.5/10 for me I think it could be possible.
You don't like gay rape?
F@g
:roll:
Line of the day.
~~~
Ima definitely see the movie. Better than pulp fiction is high praise.
NCFOM, TWBB.
OK, got the no country for old men, but what is the other one?
And guys, Ritchie is nice, but ya cant tel me he has not digested Tarantino can ya? Before making anything of his own, Ya KNOW he has been influnced by Q man. I wont say he would not exist without Quentin but common.
unbreakable
08-19-2009, 04:08 AM
OK, got the no country for old men, but what is the other one?
There will be blood. :cheers:
methusala
08-19-2009, 05:28 AM
Two things...
1. How could you not like Kill Bill?!?!?!
2. Please don't refer to the ****ty Office as a reason this will be good.
3. How could he not like Reservoir Dogs?
Waking_Life
08-19-2009, 06:57 AM
It was a little disappointing to see the part of TheJewBear go to freaking Eli Roth. But besides that, the trailer looks decent.
The script was definitely a good read. It held some of Q.T.'s best dialog. Plus, he seemed to include a decent amount of humor, mixed in with the drama.
The ending (according to the leaked script) showed a bit of an action-movie.thriller turn... So im surprised to read that the friend felt it was the quintessential portion.
Thorpesaurous
08-19-2009, 10:07 AM
There's nothing I can think of that Tarantino has been this responsible for that I haven't liked, although it often takes me time to come around. I needed multiple viewings to fully appreciate Pulp Fiction, and didn't really care for Kill Bill until seeing it many times on cable, and now it's among my favorites.
I do have a few concerns about this. So much of his work is done with tongue firmly planted in cheek, and the WWII setting can be hard to take this level of lightness with. You can go full out Springtime For Hitler level foolish, or it's dead serious Private Ryan, but rarely has the in between worked. And that's usually where QT sits.
Secondly, obviously one of Tarantino's greatest strengths is his use of language, and with a good chunk of the cast not speaking english, I'm concerned some his stuff will be lost in translation. I know getting the guy who plays the lead Nazi was a major coup for him, and I've heard him say he wouldn't have done the project without him. So I have hopes in this area.
Thirdly, QT is well known for his use of pop culture references, and in this setting, I'm not sure how they'll fit. Although he is pretty well schooled in old music and seems to have a thing for old time pin up girls (the diner seen in Pulp Fiction is some reference), could come into play.
Either way it's an opening weekend flick for me, and I'm expecting and hoping to love it. It just doesn't fully feel like what I've come to expect from him, which is fine.
quasimoto
08-19-2009, 08:00 PM
Best movie I've seen in a very long time. Great story, great actors. Especially Christoph Waltz (the Jew hunter) was outstanding. Oh, and the ending is just fantastic. :roll:
Secondly, obviously one of Tarantino's greatest strengths is his use of language, and with a good chunk of the cast not speaking english, I'm concerned some his stuff will be lost in translation. I know getting the guy who plays the lead Nazi was a major coup for him, and I've heard him say he wouldn't have done the project without him. So I have hopes in this area.
Well, would you rather have them speak Shakespeare English like in Valkyrie? Yeah you'll have to read subtitles but it adds an extra dimension to it. The dialogs are definitely one of the best things in the movie.
mbell75
08-19-2009, 08:40 PM
You are proclaiming this from your friends review? Ban! :no:
picc84
08-19-2009, 08:45 PM
Cant wait to see this. Reviews are good and the Jew Hunter sounds awesome.
Plus Diane Kruger in 1940's makeup and wardrobe sounds HOT.
Thugnificent
08-20-2009, 02:29 AM
Quentin Tarantino and Pulp Fiction are so overrated, Guy Ritchie and his film snatch is so much better than anything Tarantino has ever done.
this!
Snatch is a lot more entertaining than Pulp Fiction. I watch it simply out of boredom.
Putting aside that ****ty movie with Madonna, Ritchie's work is always on a certain level, whereas Tarantino is soooooo uneven.
Hotlantadude81
08-20-2009, 05:11 AM
this!
Snatch is a lot more entertaining than Pulp Fiction. I watch it simply out of boredom.
Putting aside that ****ty movie with Madonna, Ritchie's work is always on a certain level, whereas Tarantino is soooooo uneven.
Guy Ritchie?:roll: :roll: :roll:
Dudes last two movies have flopped.
Thorpesaurous
08-20-2009, 06:18 AM
Best movie I've seen in a very long time. Great story, great actors. Especially Christoph Waltz (the Jew hunter) was outstanding. Oh, and the ending is just fantastic. :roll:
Well, would you rather have them speak Shakespeare English like in Valkyrie? Yeah you'll have to read subtitles but it adds an extra dimension to it. The dialogs are definitely one of the best things in the movie.
There's more to dialogue than just what's said. Inflection, and other subtleties can be lost not just because most of the audience won't speak the language, but neither does the director.
I have no problem with reading subtitles, it's just that with the specific case of Tarantino's work, I think it could have an effect on one of his defining traits.
this!
Snatch is a lot more entertaining than Pulp Fiction. I watch it simply out of boredom.
Putting aside that ****ty movie with Madonna, Ritchie's work is always on a certain level, whereas Tarantino is soooooo uneven.
And guys, Ritchie is nice, but ya cant tel me he has not digested Tarantino can ya? Before making anything of his own, Ya KNOW he has been influnced by Q man. I wont say he would not exist without Quentin but common.
Again, don't you think Ritchie has to be considered a bit of a Tarantino clone? I mean seriously, he borrows heavily from Q man. And I like his stuff a lot. Rock and rolla was great. Lock stock, snatch... loved them.
But at least admit, he owes Q man something.
Thugnificent
08-20-2009, 07:57 AM
Guy Ritchie?:roll: :roll: :roll:
Dudes last two movies have flopped.
That does not mean that the movies were bad...
Revolver and RocknRolla weren't simply as hyped as Death Proof.
Ritchie is repetitive, that's true, but all in all I pick him, because he is not as boring as Tarantino.
Plus I'm a hater.:hammertime:
Yes, I admit he borrowed.
Didn't Tarantino build his whole style on borrowing?
Don't critics defend his movies simply by saying "oh, he borrows from..." not that it has anything to do with the value of the picture?
El Kabong
08-20-2009, 08:09 AM
Saw it today. Fantastic movie, although it was different then what I thought it would be. The trailer kinda paints it as the Basterds adventuring across France, killing Nazi's and taking their scalps. You kinda wish you could get more backstory into some of the Basterds, because other then Stiglitz (German born Nazi killer) and Aldo talking about himself a tiny bit, half of the Basterds are really not given much charactization. Most of the movie, they just stand around watching Aldo talk and then most of them completely disappear by the end without any explanation.
Mamba
08-20-2009, 11:11 AM
the movie was awesome,
tarantino really knows how to include some bull****, but it all falls into place at the end of the movie somehow or someway.
i was not dissapointed except for one scene where i stepped outside used the bathroom walked back in and still new exactly wat was going on (mike myers scene)
but one word. jewbear. u'll see ;)
picc84
08-21-2009, 11:25 AM
Any more review's since it opened last night in the States?
Brunch@Five
08-21-2009, 11:43 AM
http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movies2009/basterds6.jpg
this guy better win an oscar! :applause:
Hotlantadude81
08-21-2009, 01:15 PM
That does not mean that the movies were bad...
Revolver and RocknRolla weren't simply as hyped as Death Proof.
Ritchie is repetitive, that's true, but all in all I pick him, because he is not as boring as Tarantino.
Dude's last few movies also get low ratings at allmovie.com
Yes, I admit he borrowed.
Didn't Tarantino build his whole style on borrowing?
Don't critics defend his movies simply by saying "oh, he borrows from..." not that it has anything to do with the value of the picture?
But he is rip off of a guy that's made movies after watching too many movies. I don't like The Boondock Saints and Smokin' Aces either. Which are two more rip offs. Plus, the more often it's done, the more it feels watered down or even more just... lame.
My favorite QT is most people's less favorite. Jackie Brown of course. It's his most mature movie, and even though it doesn't have the overblown violence that guys can't seem to do with out, I love it more with each viewing.
Kebab Stall
08-21-2009, 01:18 PM
Dude's last few movies also get low ratings at allmovie.com
Plus I'm a hater.:hammertime:
But he is rip off of a guy that's made movies after watching too many movies. I don't like The Boondock Saints and Smokin' Aces either. Which are two more rip offs. Plus, the more often it's done, the more it feels watered down or even more just... lame.
My favorite QT is most people's less favorite. Jackie Brown of course. It's his most mature movie, and even though it doesn't have the overblown violence that guys can't seem to do with out, I love it more with each viewing.
Jackie Brown is easily my favourite Tarantino film aswell. It's an excellent film and often underrated when it comes to Tarantino's best films.
Hotlantadude81
08-21-2009, 02:11 PM
Jackie Brown is easily my favourite Tarantino film aswell. It's an excellent film and often underrated when it comes to Tarantino's best films.
It doesn't hurt that Jackie is somewhat my ideal kind of chick. Kind on roughneck at times, but can be pretty feminine sometimes. She can handle her self also.
Sonic R
08-21-2009, 05:58 PM
Aw man, Jackie Brown is too cool for school!
I cannot believe that Jackie Brown doesn't get enough love
Erudus
08-21-2009, 06:06 PM
going to see it at 10pm tonight
Thorpesaurous
08-21-2009, 10:10 PM
Just walked in. Really loved it. Probably more than most of Tarantino's stuff upon first viewing. It's more purely a plot driven flick than most. Like the Professor said a few posts back, there really isn't any backstory on anyone, except Shoshana. But because the way it plays is as the drive of this plot, I didn't really miss it, and I actually prefer that it was discarded than sprinkled in thin.
I was a little sursprised there wasn't more examples of the Basterds' brutality. But if I can sit through an almost two and half hour movie and still be wondering why there wasn't more of something, than something is being done right.
My concerns about the language barrier were quickly proven unnecessary. It bounces pretty seemlessly between German, French, and English, and even a bit of Eye-Talian ... Grazi!! And a lot of it comes back to Brunch@Fives post. Hans Landa is a great villian. And his command of all the languages, and ability to convey nuance in each, is the lynchpin to this thing. I read that Tarantino was willing to bail on the project without the guy, and that's after spending years working on it, and finally getting financing, and Brad Pitt attatched. It seemed like typical blustery bull**** when I read it, but after seeing it, I think he was genuine.
I was also concerned about the delicacy of the setting, but it plays perfectly. Even during all the comedic relief, and hyper stylized violence, it still feels like a pure revenge flick, and I know when he was writing the script, the Basterds were southern blacks and the Nazis were the KKK, and it would have felt exactly the same. It's not an historical document, but so long as you're aware of that and ok with it going in, and you can just go along with the ride. It's a little like Ocean's 11 except the Casino is a movie theatre, instead of money it's dead Nazi's they're after, and it's Goebbells instead of Andy Garcia.
I really liked the split up story more than usual. The two sides approaching the same event seperately, with such similar motives. It really worked well, and Shoshana was great.
I really loved it, it's a low 90s for me, and I second the notion of Christopher Walz for an early entry for a possible Oscar Nom.
For those who've seen it, when Hans and Shoshana are having strudel, and he says he wanted to ask her something but he forgot, what do you think it was?
Lamar Doom
08-22-2009, 01:01 AM
man what a kickass movie. the previews led me to believe it was going to be more tongue in cheek like Grindhouse, it was definitely funny but this will seriously get award nominations. Missed some of the acting because of the subtitles (i don't sprechen ze doitch o francais) but I thought it really added to the story. Holy sh*t Christoph Waltz killed it! I'm a little standoffish about some of Quentin's stuff but this was a full on winner. If it's not my favorite of his, it's close.
Zombles
08-22-2009, 01:41 AM
Saw it today, real solid flick if kind of empty. Funny as hell, great dialogue, fine cinematography, and grand performances from pretty much everyone except for the actors who portrayed the Nazi hierarchy and Eli Roth; figure the former is intentional as QT was trying to degrade them into pitiful caricatures. Some people have *****ed about the sequencing of the narrative but they all worked and the interconnectedness of the apparent disconnection paid off in a big way for the finale.
Could've used a better dictator in the editing room. Most of the conversations were intriguing and entertaining, but the movie ran long as is and using the characters to convey to the audience the depth and breadth of your 1920s cinema knowledge was masturrbatory special features fodder.
Don't know where to rank it among his films, and I've liked every single one with Reservoir Dogs the longtime front-runner. He remains the prodigious but limited talent he's always been. Never got the feeling QT comprehended human bonds beyond a superficial or symbolic plain and this film doesn't change that.
Highlights (spoilerlights):
Bonjourno straight from Tennessee.
"You get that for killing Jews?"
"Bravery."
The entire opening scene between the French farmer and Colonel Landa.
"Hell I been chewed out before."
The subplot between Shosanna and the war hero, especially its climax and resolution. Though his sudden switch of character just prior seemed forced.
For those who've seen it, when Hans and Shoshana are having strudel, and he says he wanted to ask her something but he forgot, what do you think it was?
Had the notion it was a cat playing with its food. The look he gave her and the fact he ordered her a glass of milk was his way of letting her know he was aware of her true identity.
Lamar Doom
08-22-2009, 01:58 AM
"You get that for killing Jews?"
"Bravery."
f*ck yeah. that was a really well setup/delivered "joke". High fives all around to the writer(s) and actors.
Lamar Doom
08-22-2009, 02:04 AM
The entire opening scene between the French farmer and Colonel Landa.
Had the notion it was a cat playing with its food. The look he gave her and the fact he ordered her a glass of milk was his way of letting her know he was aware of her true identity.
quentin snuck in his little foot fetish scene too with the cinderella moment. His f*cking laugh when she told him she hurt her foot mountain climbing, they set up the doom so well. Landa was a remarkable stand out, I'm pretty sure all his scenes were stellar, especially the ones you cited, the opening scene is a monster.
vapid
08-22-2009, 06:39 AM
Christopher Waltz was great. So great.
Overall I'd rank it just below Kill Bill 1 and Pulp fiction. I guess I was looking for a little more backstory on the Basterds and the setting (nazi-germany) was not as creative imo as his other works, but still my top film of the year so far. Ridiculously entertaining, loved 80% of the dialog. Could use a little bit more editing but that always happens with QT films.
Thorpesaurous
08-22-2009, 09:40 AM
I felt like the attempt to put a human face on some of the lower level Reich was interesting. The young Vilhelm with his son, the whole bar scene really. Most of Zoller's characterizations up, even guilt, until his final turn. Both sequences showed a human side of that soldier who's usually portrayed closer to a snarling emotionless storm trooper. And then in both cases they were shown reverting out of complete fear for their authorities.
sunsfan1357
08-22-2009, 01:06 PM
I saw this last night and I loved it. Probably my favorite QT movie and Waltz just may have replaced Bardem as my favorite villain.
sergiorodriguez
08-22-2009, 01:11 PM
That does not mean that the movies were bad...
Revolver and RocknRolla weren't simply as hyped as Death Proof.
Ritchie is repetitive, that's true, but all in all I pick him, because he is not as boring as Tarantino.
Plus I'm a hater.:hammertime:
Yes, I admit he borrowed.
Didn't Tarantino build his whole style on borrowing?
Don't critics defend his movies simply by saying "oh, he borrows from..." not that it has anything to do with the value of the picture?
It doesn't matter. Tarantino steals EVERYTHING in his movies from somewhere else. EVERYTHING. He's still better than Tarantino and makes more interesting and watchable movies.
Norcaliblunt
08-22-2009, 01:30 PM
LMAO at all this Guy Ritchie crap. Dudes movies suck. You all can keep that British bullchit. He is nowhere even close to QT's level.
sergiorodriguez
08-22-2009, 02:07 PM
LMAO at all this Guy Ritchie crap. Dudes movies suck. You all can keep that British bullchit. He is nowhere even close to QT's level.
Tarantino does 3 things-*********ory dialogue, ripoff sergio leonne and rip off bad C-movies.
Kill Bill, the whole thing was just a Sergio Leonne rippoff, and a bad one at that.
sunsfan1357
08-22-2009, 02:26 PM
Kill Bill, the whole thing was just a Sergio Leonne rippoff, and a bad one at that.
I always hear great things about Kill Bill, but I was never able to get into it.
Gundress
08-22-2009, 03:16 PM
I will watch movie tonight.
MarloStanfield
08-22-2009, 03:46 PM
Very post modern. Excellent indeed.
Erudus
08-22-2009, 05:50 PM
sickkkkkkkkkkkk movie, brad pitt played that perfect american roll :oldlol: the bar scene when he was talking out of screen was funny
ConanRulesNBC
08-22-2009, 11:09 PM
Anyone who's seen me on here knows I've been a huge Tarantino fan and that was honestly my favorite Tarantino movie since Pulp Fiction. I love Pulp Fiction and I think Inglourious Basterds is right up there. This was absolutely amazing.
Aldridge Fan
08-23-2009, 01:09 AM
hmmmm, I like both Tarantino and Ritchie. Lock, Stock, and two smoking barrels was great too. Don't think either director is overrated, especially not the work in Pulp Fiction.Ditto.
PF was absolutely great! Very unique movie when it came out and done very well. QT started something new those days with reservoir dogs and PF and it wasn't just new in a sense of something different and so, so. It was a genius at work to start a new era of movies. Don't forget that people. Snatch wouldn't even be alive without Quentin and his stuff is more talented and interesting IMO.
sergiorodriguez
08-23-2009, 07:03 AM
i just saw this film and have to say that it sucks. It was just an ego trip for the director. There are many self referential lines in the film where characters say stuff like "I'm working on my masterpiece" and it ends with the lines "this is my masterpiece". What an egotistical bullshit movie. This clunker is really getting good reviews?
Quentin Tarantino owes EVERYTHING to Sergio Leone. I don't get why Tarantino gets so much credit for being original when EVERYTHING HE DOES rips off Sergio Leone.
Don't go see this movie. You will be disappointed. It is like watching Quentin Tarantino *********ing
pete's montreux
08-23-2009, 07:04 AM
http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/124586-1/Bro_Inc.jpg
MarloStanfield
08-23-2009, 07:06 AM
that's funny...that's exactly how i'd sum up your posting career...dull, overlong, poorly edited egotrip.
At least QT made some money.
Lamar Doom
08-23-2009, 07:09 AM
he takes from a lot of people. I think you went into it a little standoffish or something because it's a really rich and funny script and I thought the movie was great.
pete's montreux
08-23-2009, 07:10 AM
if it wasn't for your love of clint, i would have you killed
Kebab Stall
08-23-2009, 07:10 AM
Seriously? You had to make another thread for this?
sergiorodriguez
08-23-2009, 07:16 AM
Seriously? You had to make another thread for this?
Yeh, it was really that terrible. There is a boring scene in a restaurant where nothing happens that lasts 25 minutes and then a boring scene in a bar that lasts 40 minutes where nothing happens until the end. Someone needs to put this tarantino guy on a leash, it might have actually been an ok movie if it was edited better. And didn't rip off Sergio Leone so blatantly and uncreatively.
JustinJDW
08-23-2009, 07:20 AM
But, I plan on watching the movie tomorrow with my brother. :(
Lamar Doom
08-23-2009, 07:20 AM
But, I plan on watching the movie tomorrow with my brother. :(
your brother is dead justin.
JustinJDW
08-23-2009, 07:24 AM
your brother is dead justin.http://ssreporters.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/monkey_shocked2.jpg
Lamar Doom
08-23-2009, 07:25 AM
hahaha, nice choice
Lamar Doom
08-23-2009, 07:26 AM
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pete's montreux
08-23-2009, 07:27 AM
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JustinJDW
08-23-2009, 07:34 AM
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Sonic R
08-23-2009, 09:59 AM
Ricky Rubio = Quentin Tarantino >> Sergio Rodriguez = Guy Ritchie
(I really do like Guy Ritchie films though)
but this is how the OP works… goes against the grain for the sake of being "different" and "against the institution"
Rage on dude.
supersmashbros
08-23-2009, 10:59 AM
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TMAC-RAPTORS
08-23-2009, 01:04 PM
Yeh, it was really that terrible. There is a boring scene in a restaurant where nothing happens that lasts 25 minutes and then a boring scene in a bar that lasts 40 minutes where nothing happens until the end. Someone needs to put this tarantino guy on a leash, it might have actually been an ok movie if it was edited better. And didn't rip off Sergio Leone so blatantly and uncreatively.
How did you not like the bar scene! That was my favorite.
sergiorodriguez
08-23-2009, 02:57 PM
How did you not like the bar scene! That was my favorite.
cuz it was like 35 minutes in one scene where nothing happened in the plot until the very end
sergiorodriguez
08-23-2009, 03:01 PM
Ricky Rubio = Quentin Tarantino >> Sergio Rodriguez = Guy Ritchie
(I really do like Guy Ritchie films though)
but this is how the OP works… goes against the grain for the sake of being "different" and "against the institution"
Rage on dude.
wtf idiots. It's people who like Quentin Tarantino and hail him as a cinematic genius who are the ones going against the grain for the sake of being different. Isn't Tarantino the 'rebel film maker' who goes against the grain and does whatver the hell he wants in his films? This thing got panned in Cannes and is getting like 70% reviews now. I'm not going against the grain, people hailing this clunky movie as a masterpiece are.
Seriously Sonic R, I understand why you think Quentin Tarantino is so amazing. I used to think he was amazing when I saw pulp fiction and resevoir dogs when I was 13. But then I saw other movies. And realized that all Tarantino did was blatantly rip off other better movies and directors. Seriously. Educate yourself. Go watch Once Upon a Time in America and the Good the Bad and the Ugly, then come back and tell me what you think about Tarantino.
BRabbiT
08-23-2009, 04:14 PM
http://i32.tinypic.com/lgxhi.jpg
pimp
:roll:
just saw this movie. pretty fkcing interesting.
this has probably been mentioned, but the acting was very impressive, and the way that screen tarantino blended languages was really cool.
i'm sure that french and german audiences will get to see a different movie than i saw...and vice versa.
Hotlantadude81
08-23-2009, 05:20 PM
i just saw this film and have to say that it sucks. It was just an ego trip for the director. There are many self referential lines in the film where characters say stuff like "I'm working on my masterpiece" and it ends with the lines "this is my masterpiece". What an egotistical bullshit movie. This clunker is really getting good reviews?
Quentin Tarantino owes EVERYTHING to Sergio Leone. I don't get why Tarantino gets so much credit for being original when EVERYTHING HE DOES rips off Sergio Leone.
Don't go see this movie. You will be disappointed. It is like watching Quentin Tarantino *********ing
I for one will not say that he is original. I just like the movies he makes. Mostly Jackie Brown. I only like PF some. Death Proof is solid and dogs is awesome... I own the Kill Bill movies, but I haven't had the urge to watch them.
As for as Leone and TBTBTU goes... Isn't that movie a rip off of another movie.... Oh what's it's name? I think it starts with a Y...
embersyc
08-23-2009, 05:22 PM
It was entertaining despite not being an overtly violent film as advertised. Ironically the Inglourious Basterds of the films title are really totally unnecessary to the main plot of the film. The film builds rich characters of the Nazi's and then makes the Americans look like one-dimensional inhuman killing machines.
It's not better then Pulp Fiction, I'd rank Tarantino's main releases as:
1. Reservoir Dogs
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Inglourious Basterds
4. Jackie Brown
5. Kill Bill Volume 2
6. Kill Bill Volume 1
7. Deathproof
For the Guy Ritchie lovers out there the 3 Guy Ritchie films I've seen would rank in here as follows:
1. Reservoir Dogs
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Snatch
4. Inglourious Basterds
5. Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
6. Jackie Brown
7. Kill Bill Volume 2
8. Rock'n'Rolla
9. Kill Bill Volume 1
10. Deathproof
Hotlantadude81
08-23-2009, 05:24 PM
Tarantino does 3 things-*********ory dialogue, ripoff sergio leonne and rip off bad C-movies.
Kill Bill, the whole thing was just a Sergio Leonne rippoff, and a bad one at that.
And Richie makes movies that flop. Outside of maybe 10 people who gives a crap about Volver and Rocknrolla?
embersyc
08-23-2009, 05:26 PM
As for as Leone and TBTBTU goes... Isn't that movie a rip off of another movie.... Oh what's it's name? I think it starts with a Y...
Every director borrows, Leone ripped off Kurusawa obviously.
Sonic R
08-23-2009, 05:28 PM
wtf idiots. It's people who like Quentin Tarantino and hail him as a cinematic genius who are the ones going against the grain for the sake of being different. Isn't Tarantino the 'rebel film maker' who goes against the grain and does whatver the hell he wants in his films? This thing got panned in Cannes and is getting like 70% reviews now. I'm not going against the grain, people hailing this clunky movie as a masterpiece are.
Seriously Sonic R, I understand why you think Quentin Tarantino is so amazing. I used to think he was amazing when I saw pulp fiction and resevoir dogs when I was 13. But then I saw other movies. And realized that all Tarantino did was blatantly rip off other better movies and directors. Seriously. Educate yourself. Go watch Once Upon a Time in America and the Good the Bad and the Ugly, then come back and tell me what you think about Tarantino.
Sorry dude, I'm not a movie snob… I barley watch movies and I regret that I won't be able to get in that deep if I were to watch something else and get back to ya on my thoughts on what ever or who ever… You wanna argue about video games, then I'm your man, but you come onto this forum and peddle your view as if you're some savior of film and that everyone who enjoys Tarantino's work are lemmings, and proceed to belittle the membership of ISH because they happen to enjoy something that you feel is not up to your highbrow standards.
I may be a game snob, but I don't go on trashing all the people who throw their money away every year on stuff like Madden… it is what it is…
JustinJDW
08-24-2009, 01:56 AM
I just saw the movie with my brother, and it was pretty ****ing awesome! Especially the ending! The **** went down! :rockon:
brwnman
08-24-2009, 02:26 AM
Great movie. Loved it...
sergiorodriguez
08-24-2009, 06:17 AM
I for one will not say that he is original. I just like the movies he makes. Mostly Jackie Brown. I only like PF some. Death Proof is solid and dogs is awesome... I own the Kill Bill movies, but I haven't had the urge to watch them.
As for as Leone and TBTBTU goes... Isn't that movie a rip off of another movie.... Oh what's it's name? I think it starts with a Y...
WRONG MORON!!!
The Good the Bad and the Ugly is completely original.
A Fistful of Dollars is the film you are talking about-it is a shot for shot remake of the Kurosawa movie Yojimbo set in the old west. And Leone did not pretend that he wrote that movie. Kurosawa and the Yojimbo screenplay are credited in the movie.
sergiorodriguez
08-24-2009, 06:19 AM
Every director borrows, Leone ripped off Kurusawa obviously.
It's not a ripoff IF YOU GIVE KUROSAWA CREDIT FOR WRITING THE SCREENPLAY.
And Leone only did that for one movie.
Tarantino did it for every movie he ever wrote.
sergiorodriguez
08-24-2009, 06:20 AM
Sorry dude, I'm not a movie snob… I barley watch movies and I regret that I won't be able to get in that deep if I were to watch something else and get back to ya on my thoughts on what ever or who ever… You wanna argue about video games, then I'm your man, but you come onto this forum and peddle your view as if you're some savior of film and that everyone who enjoys Tarantino's work are lemmings, and proceed to belittle the membership of ISH because they happen to enjoy something that you feel is not up to your highbrow standards.
I may be a game snob, but I don't go on trashing all the people who throw their money away every year on stuff like Madden… it is what it is…
im not a movie snob either! Im the opposite, I'm saying that people who declare this guy a genius are the highbrow snobs, who just do everything critics tell them, and judge a movie more for intellectual themes rather than it just being a good movie that's fun to watch
vapid
08-24-2009, 06:22 AM
QT fanboys are not hardcore intellectual snobs.
sergiorodriguez
08-24-2009, 06:34 AM
QT fanboys are not hardcore intellectual snobs.
if they arent i dont get how they can praise a movie so much that had two thirty minute scenes of dialogue (the restaurant with the strudel and the bar) with basically no plot development in those scenes. Edit that boring shit down!
ukplayer4
08-24-2009, 01:34 PM
QT fanboys are not hardcore intellectual snobs.
exactly, they are the opposite.
tarrentino makes very entertaining films that dont have anything to say. you have to admire his post modernist pastiches- which is basically what his films are. he acts like he is paying tribute to the film makers he is borrowing from, but in reality the people that are really big fans of his work are the ones that havent seen the original films- for them it seems like freash modern film making. that said i dont have any problem with him, he is a talented film maker and in his own way he is making films of their own style. he has almost become a parody of himself. i have enjoyed each and every qt film- even death proof.
inglourious basterds- the first 2/3's of the film were excellent i felt, yes it was all dialogue but beautifully tense and the actor who plays the jew killer was mesmerising. however the 3rd act was just a disgrace, rediculous ubsurd mess. lowering the film from a 9 to a 7.5 imo. but once again it was a very well acted/scripted enjoyable slice of entertainment cinema.
7.5/10
A Fistful of Dollars is the film you are talking about-it is a shot for shot remake of the Kurosawa movie Yojimbo set in the old west. And Leone did not pretend that he wrote that movie.Kurosawa and the Yojimbo screenplay are credited in the movie.
It's not a ripoff IF YOU GIVE KUROSAWA CREDIT FOR WRITING THE SCREENPLAY.
And Leone only did that for one movie.
Ya.
After Kurosawa sued him. :oldlol:
In the original Kurosawa wasn't credited.
picc84
08-27-2009, 09:11 PM
Not better than Pulp Fiction. But still awesome.
Loved the movie, but afterward I was like where does the Jewhunter get off brutalizing von Hammersmark for plotting against the Germans when he was the ultimate traitor himself?
Thats my only gripe though. I didnt feel like it was too long at all, didnt feel like any scenes went on too long at all, didnt have any issue with the subtitles. Aldo Raine's italian was hilarious.
I enjoy the self-*********ory Tarantino dialogue marathons, provided they're done right, and arent just a bunch of dumb b!tches yapping (Death Proof). Basement/bar rendezvous scene was great IMO. Landa's rat/jew soliliquoy at the beginning was classic Tarantino stuff. He was definitely the highlight of the movie. His acting and Tarantino's directing did a great job building tension throughout scenes. People complain about the length and inaction of some of Tarantino's scenes but they're all done to build tension. This movie did a great job of it.
Would have liked to have heard why he made the decision he did at the end though. It seemed like he enjoyed his job and was loyal to his cause, and then BAM he's betraying everyone just like that.
Gundress
08-27-2009, 09:41 PM
Just saw it. F*ck. Instant classic. Absolutely loved every bit of this film. I can see how some would say it needs some more editing, and I might not complain about a shorter running time myself, but hey...that's Tarantino. This is unquestionably him at his best. The dialogue, cast, soundtrack, direction...everything blew me away, and I had pretty high expectations. Definitely want to see it again...and again.
The last scene = :rockon: :rockon:
I went to see it yesterday, and I was pleasantly surprised.
Never before was a Tarantino movie so funny in a haha way, and I thought the combination of funny and very explicit violence made for a satisfyingly weird combination.
For overall entertainment value it's his best so far, but I don't know yet if that also makes it his best work overall.
The story has a lot of holes, but that can be said about all of Tarantino's stuff. He makes things happen because he thinks they are cool, not for any other reason.
I also think we can all agree Christoph Waltz (Landa) was terrific.
embersyc
08-29-2009, 07:48 AM
Would have liked to have heard why he made the decision he did at the end though. It seemed like he enjoyed his job and was loyal to his cause, and then BAM he's betraying everyone just like that.
Maybe this is a spoiler, so don't read if you haven't seen the movie:
I think he just liked his job because it was the best thing he could get for himself, he saw the writing on the wall with the Americans coming and figured he'd take the opportunity to make himself rich and put himself on the winning side of history.
sergiorodriguez
08-29-2009, 08:42 AM
Ya.
After Kurosawa sued him. :oldlol:
In the original Kurosawa wasn't credited.
That's only because Leone didn't know if you had to credit someone if you translate the language from Japanese to English or Italian.
That's only because Leone didn't know if you had to credit someone if you translate the language from Japanese to English or Italian.
:rolleyes:
Skywalker
08-29-2009, 10:43 AM
at the end when he said "I think this is my masterpiece" or w/e he was in a way talking about Tarentino IMO and I agree.
supersmashbros
09-01-2009, 09:36 PM
It was way too long for a gore fest...2:30 of screen time? More like 2 hrs max for a movie like that! Had me sitting and watching for too long...and Pulp Fiction is countlessly better than this film! Watchman I could deal with 2:30 plus, but for a movie like this.
T.O.RAPS
09-01-2009, 11:08 PM
Movie was one of the best ever, and those 2.5 hours flew by for me...
picc84
09-01-2009, 11:15 PM
Movie was one of the best ever, and those 2.5 hours flew by for me...
Me too.
DeuceWallaces
09-01-2009, 11:22 PM
I thought it was great. Can't wait for the prequel. I thought it was better than Pulp Fiction and it flew by for me.
picc84
09-01-2009, 11:37 PM
Maybe this is a spoiler, so don't read if you haven't seen the movie:
I think he just liked his job because it was the best thing he could get for himself, he saw the writing on the wall with the Americans coming and figured he'd take the opportunity to make himself rich and put himself on the winning side of history.
Sure, but if he was such a mercenary with no loyalty to the Germans why would he go apesh!t on von Hammersmark like that.
DeuceWallaces
09-01-2009, 11:41 PM
Well he was still a psychopath who obviously enjoyed killing.
ukplayer4
09-02-2009, 12:46 AM
3rd act was weak. overall i enjoyed it thoe.
oneeyeddeacon
09-02-2009, 02:06 AM
A third act that has this scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o2ID2KlgUI) in it does not deserve to be called weak.
Saw it twice; loved it both times.
WoGiTaLiA1
09-02-2009, 04:56 AM
I liked it, dragged in parts and probably could have been a bit shorter but it was a well executed Tarantino film.
Enjoyable film, not some kind of cinema masterpiece but none of his films are but it is a very enjoyable viewing. It is weird to watch a Brad Pitt film where he is not the star of the show, Waltz was just brilliant and probably deserves an Oscar mention.
Story Up
09-02-2009, 02:27 PM
I liked it, dragged in parts and probably could have been a bit shorter but it was a well executed Tarantino film.
Enjoyable film, not some kind of cinema masterpiece but none of his films are but it is a very enjoyable viewing. It is weird to watch a Brad Pitt film where he is not the star of the show, Waltz was just brilliant and probably deserves an Oscar mention.
I'm so glad there is one person who feels the same way I do; while Pulp Fiction and Basterds are two really good movies; they are both highly overrated. I never understood the fascination with Quentin's directing, it's like he's everyone's family member and they're trying their hardest to please him.
Was this movie really that much better then say Enemy at the Gates?
Kill Bill in my opinion is Quentin's best work.
I'm not saying Tarantino is not a good director; I just think he's an attention whore who gets too much publicity and it further feeds his already gigantic ego. Give me the Cohen brothers and literally a dozen other directors over him.
bdreason
09-02-2009, 02:28 PM
Not even close to Pulp Fiction in my opinion.
I'm not saying Tarantino is not a good director; I just think he's an attention whore who gets too much publicity and it further feeds his already gigantic ego. Give me the Cohen brothers and literally a dozen other directors over him.
[B][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Ahem. The "Cohen" brothers? Gain some knowledge before you try to sit on the FUT
Story Up
09-02-2009, 02:35 PM
[QUOTE=FUT
Coen brothers, it was a typo.
A typo would be like "thsi." You just didn't know what you were talking about.
Story Up
09-02-2009, 02:50 PM
[QUOTE=FUT
ukplayer4
09-02-2009, 03:04 PM
futon is back :banana:
DonDadda59
09-02-2009, 04:54 PM
Just got back from seeing it, Wacky Wednesday at a theater a while down the road, $5 tickets :pimp:
The movie was very entertaining, well directed, and Mr. Waltz put in a great performance throughout. But I'll take Pulp Fiction all day, every day.
picc84
09-02-2009, 04:55 PM
Yeah, Pulp Fiction was definitely better. But IB was still awesome.
I can't believe I'm even replying to you, but look at your keyboard and tell me which keyboard button is directly above the letter "N". (I have a MAC and the letter is H)
Put the two together and maybe it'll click for you; I know furniture isn't known for its intelligence but in this case; try really hard before calling other people out for not knowing something.
Cohen instead of Coen is not a typo.
Just say you think phonetically. :lol
Story Up
09-03-2009, 07:22 AM
Cohen instead of Coen is not a typo.
Just say you think phonetically. :lol
Or we can say that error happened fortuitously for a couple of geeks so they can bug me about it to make themselves feel superior and more knowledgeable.
That's probably the most accurate description. :D
halffttime
09-03-2009, 07:42 AM
I'm so glad there is one person who feels the same way I do; while Pulp Fiction and Basterds are two really good movies; they are both highly overrated. I never understood the fascination with Quentin's directing, it's like he's everyone's family member and they're trying their hardest to please him.
Was this movie really that much better then say Enemy at the Gates?
Kill Bill in my opinion is Quentin's best work.
I'm not saying Tarantino is not a good director; I just think he's an attention whore who gets too much publicity and it further feeds his already gigantic ego. Give me the Cohen brothers and literally a dozen other directors over him.
lol i know what you mean about quentin tarantino. my one friend kept telling me before how sick pulp fiction was, so i was excited to watch it. saw the movie, and i'm not saying it sucked, but i didn't enjoy it as much as i expected i would. same thing with reservoir dogs.. but it's probably cause those aren't my type of movies. either that or i don't have the movie intellect some others have. :rolleyes:
Younggrease
09-04-2009, 12:47 PM
Did not like this movie...maybe I wasnt paying attention(which is partially true) but from the parts I watched I really thought it was boring and dragged on. I might also have to factor in I hate WWII movies or most war movies in general
Automajic23
09-04-2009, 01:46 PM
watched it last night, movie was entertaining and hilarious. It was a very good plot with lots of twists. I thought the racism was a bit excessive, and the end scene in the theatre was excessive. I'd def watch this again
SayTownRy
09-04-2009, 03:04 PM
brad pitt was epic.
"bonjourno"
"he got outta Munich while the gettin was good and came back round here to give yall a whoop'n fer it"
best movie i've seen in a while, but it wasn't as good as pulp fiction. that's certainly not a knock on inglourious basterds, it's a testament to how good pulp fiction is.
Lebron23
10-15-2011, 05:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsJ4yR4THPk&feature=related
Best Part of the movie. I also love theme.
LilBTheBasedGod
10-15-2011, 05:37 AM
I miss Gundress :(
dunksby
10-15-2011, 05:38 AM
I'm looking forward to this, even though I don't really like Tarantino normally. I loved "Death Proof." Hated Reservoir dogs. Hated Kill Bills. Mixed feelings toward Pulp Fiction. Haven't seen anything else he's made.
But there's something about the trailers I've seen that sets a good vibe for me. Maybe it's because Ryan from The Office is in it... I don't know. We'll see.
Who is this retard?
vinsane01
10-15-2011, 06:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsJ4yR4THPk&feature=related
Best Part of the movie. I also love theme.
One of my fav parts of the movie :cheers: Q. Tarantino made that scene as a homage to the 1974 movie "Thriller: A Cruel Picture" where they did dozens of such slow motion scenes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzY_qVEngrI
My personal favorite is the scene where Hans Landa was negotiating with Lt. Aldo "the Apache" and Private Utivich "the little man" to talk with the OSS general and discuss terms of his conditional surrender. Christoph Waltz was great in that scene.
Great movie and i agree that it's the best movie tarantino has done.
JohnnySic
10-15-2011, 08:31 AM
Both are overrated.
leopoldstotch
10-15-2011, 10:22 AM
Who is this retard?
+1. who says they don't like kill bill and reservoir dogs? come on ..
Premeditated
10-15-2011, 11:44 AM
I agree with the op. Pulp Fiction is in my top 20, but I like Inglorious Bastards better. It's hilarious as fukk. I put Waltz character on the same scale as Jackson's character in PF. Once again Brad Pitt proved that he has range. I enjoyed the dialogues more in this movie, which is crazy because most of it was subtitle.
Pulp Fiction Always For The Win.
Rake2204
07-11-2012, 08:49 PM
Just got around to seeing this film, around three years late of course, but that's just about on time for me. I read through this thread and I saw some latent annoyance with Eli Roth. This happens to be the only movie I know him from. I read up a little and saw he made the Hostel movies, which I have not seen (nor want to). Is that where the displeasure for Roth comes from? Because I thought his initial appearance in Inglourious Basterds was one of the greatest entrances in movie history. I didn't know who the hell the actor was at the time but his gait on the approach, the way he asks, "You get that for killin' Jews?", and the manner with which he nods in feign understanding when the German says, "Bravery" produced one hell of a cinematic moment.
I actually liked the full scene, featuring Pitt's nonchalant reference to "The Bearrrr Jewwwww" but here's just the appearance portion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlw2YpBIq2Q
Full: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLnr0yWtskc
Also, great movie. Definitely resonated.
Nick Young
07-11-2012, 08:52 PM
i agree wholeheartedly.
sick_brah07
07-11-2012, 08:55 PM
Both are overrated.
they are so over the top and different that people just go crazy and say its art and incredible
highwhey
07-11-2012, 09:46 PM
+1. who says they don't like kill bill and reservoir dogs? come on ..
reservoir dogs is cool and everything but its nowhere near the beauty that pulp fiction is. nowehere. bitch.
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