Ridiculously Early 2010 Mock Draft

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It's always fun to check these a year later and see how far off you were. :oldlol:


John Wall (Kentucky)
Greg Monroe (Georgetown)
Derrick Favors (Georgia Tech)
Willie Warren (Oklahoma)
Donatas Motiejunas (Treviso)
Cole Aldrich (Kansas)
Evan Turner (Ohio State)
Ed Davis (North Carolina)
Al-Farouq Aminu (Wake Forest)
John Henson (North Carolina)
DeMarcus Cousins (Kentucky)
Avery Bradley (Texas)
Patrick Patterson (Kentucky)
Stanley Robinson (Connecticut)
James Anderson (Oklahoma State)
Craig Brackins (Iowa State)
Devin Ebanks (West Virginia)
Trevor Booker (Clemson)
Tyshawn Taylor (Kansas)
Larry Sanders (Virginia Commonwealth)
Jarvis Varnado (Mississippi State)
Xavier Henry (Kansas)
Jan Vesely (Partizan)
Manny Harris (Michigan)
Michael Washington (Arkansas)
JaJuan Johnson (Purdue)
Kyle Singler (Duke)
Gani Lawal (Georgia Tech)
Alexey Shved (CSKA)
Solomon Alabi (Florida State)

[el gringos]

Moteijunas will be a top 2 pick

Why do you and so many really think aldrich is a single digit pick- I agree that he may be an nba player, but in no way is he a top 5-10 pick

Singler will move up

Can't wait to see all of the freshman to get a better idea- is favors a 3 in the nba? Will bradley play pg for texas? Which nc frontcourt players step up the biggest(does unc have a second year freshman pf from 2 years ago mcdonalds game)?

Avery bradley (though you already have him high) and malcom lee have the most potential as gaurds to move into top 10 picks

Willie warren is a tough one too- there's a good chance gallon is a dominant player and the key to that team- where's gallon, and can it be warrens team? How is his draft stock effected if he's option 2

[UConnCeltics]

I don't think Henson is one and done. Stanley Robinson has the potential to be a lottery pick, but he hasn't shown that he can put it all together at the same time to warrant you placing him in the top 14.

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I don't think Henson is one and done. Stanley Robinson has the potential to be a lottery pick, but he hasn't shown that he can put it all together at the same time to warrant you placing him in the top 14.
Henson could very well be a One & Done, he has a high NBA ceiling but he needs to be productive this season.

He could sneak up and have a 12/8/2 season and end up a Lottery Pick.

That Mock is way off base, Lance Stephenson & Renardo Sidney are Lottery Picks at worst.

[Grinder]

Henson could very well be a One & Done, he has a high NBA ceiling but he needs to be productive this season.

He could sneak up and have a 12/8/2 season and end up a Lottery Pick.

That Mock is way off base, Lance Stephenson & Renardo Sidney are Lottery Picks at worst.

There's a good chance Sidney doesn't even get to play next season and he won't get any playing time/contract on a good European team along with the fact that he's fairly overweight and his attitude towards the game and his teammates is constantly under scrutiny. No way he's a lottery pick unless he clears eligibility and has a monster freshman campaign at Miss. St.

Stephenson won't be a lottery pick, he'll be option 1B alongside Yancy Gates at Cincy anyway + the fact that he'll be going against some really good guards in the Big East.

[A.M.G.]

Henson could very well be a One & Done, he has a high NBA ceiling but he needs to be productive this season.

He could sneak up and have a 12/8/2 season and end up a Lottery Pick.

That Mock is way off base, Lance Stephenson & Renardo Sidney are Lottery Picks at worst.
What the hell are you basing that on? Both of those guys are mid first rounders at best if they declare for the 2010 draft, and that's only if they have monsterous freshman seasons.

They both have reps as immature knuckleheads, Sidney is fat going on obese, Stephenson is known as a ball-hog and is still facing criminal charges. Their stocks have fallen over the past couple years, and they will have to perform at the college level if they want to raise their stocks enough to be first round picks in the NBA draft, let alone lottery picks. This will probably take more than one college season for either of them.

If they prove me wrong, good for them. But for now, they are late first-round/early second round on any semi-credible 2010 mock draft.

[UConnCeltics]

Henson could very well be a One & Done, he has a high NBA ceiling but he needs to be productive this season.

I don't question his ability, its just that UNC has 5 PFs on the roster. Playing time will likely be limited.

[Snoop_Cat]

I think Henson will be making a giant mistake if he's one and done. UNC is stacked with big men and he's a STICK, I don't think a year is enough to muscle up for the NBA. He's built like Anthony Randolph Extra Lite.

Stephenson is too reliant on his strength from what I've read and has been struggling more against the developed competition.

I think Singler should be a good bit higher, he'll be a huge steal in my opinion that low.

Warren's draft stock will depend on his ability to run point.
Isn't Bradley an undersized 2 guard? I think he's a bit high too, I only see him around your projected pick if he shows to be an effective 1.
Trevor Booker is a midget and I think Ebanks will a lottery pick once he showcases his stuff this year at WVU.

I'm looking at your mock and I don't see much star talent/potential to be stars from picks 5ish+. Some good starters and role players, with the top 3/4ish picks or so being almost guaranteed talent.

If I was around 8-12, I'd take a risk and take someone like James Anderson, Ebanks, Aminu. Pure studs in my opinion. I also think with a mid 10's pick, I'd take Harris. 6'5'' and can play point.

Renardo Sidney's an overweight pig. He might do well in college, but he better shed some pounds and take intelligence pills if he wants to do well in the NBA.

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What the hell are you basing that on? Both of those guys are mid first rounders at best if they declare for the 2010 draft, and that's only if they have monsterous freshman seasons.
Talent, and if they declare they are at best Lottery Draft Picks.


They both have reps as immature knuckleheads, Sidney is fat going on obese, Stephenson is known as a ball-hog and is still facing criminal charges.
Sidney has lost weight once again, and Lance Stephenson had his case settled about 2 months ago.


Their stocks have fallen over the past couple years, and they will have to perform at the college level if they want to raise their stocks enough to be first round picks in the NBA draft, let alone lottery picks. This will probably take more than one college season for either of them.
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Thats ridiculous, we're talking about game changing talents in both players. Their stocks dropped due to their status as recruits, there were questions about eligibility that affected their rankings. Stephenson is the #1 ranked SF in the country, and Sidney is the #2 ranked PF in the country. Both are at schools that will focus around their abilities, and both will be Lottery Picks unless they drop unexpectedly. Lance Stephenson is a "Playground" Paul Pierce type of player, and Renardo Sidney is the most skilled big man to come out of HS in years. I have enough reason to believe both will be Lottery Picks.


If they prove me wrong, good for them. But for now, they are late first-round/early second round on any semi-credible 2010 mock draft.
For now?

Its August, the Draft is in June. These rankings are stupid currently if you're passing them off as fact now. Everything is speculation until June.

Tyreke Evans wasnt even considered a Top 20 pick at this point in 2008, I was one of the few who even argued with idiots that he could be a Lottery Pick with an impressive season. My opinion only changed when he was productive in the middle of the season but his stock never changed even with an impressive season, it wasnt until the workouts his stock rose.

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I think Henson will be making a giant mistake if he's one and done. UNC is stacked with big men and he's a STICK, I don't think a year is enough to muscle up for the NBA. He's built like Anthony Randolph Extra Lite.
Hes built like Bosh basically, ranked similarly to Bosh and has a similar skill set as Bosh did coming out. Henson has an opportunity to become their leading scorer next season, and be a factor on offense because Ed Davis isn't a skilled offensive player at this point. Hes all potential to become one in the future in the NBA.


Stephenson is too reliant on his strength from what I've read and has been struggling more against the developed competition.
Stephenson struggles because hes double & triple teamed in AAU ball playing for an AAU team built around him with lesser talent and at Lincoln where the team is built around him with lesser talent, he also played PF a lot the past 2 seasons. If you actually watched him play, you'd realize why he sometimes struggled. He has a great handle and can use his strength to finish at the basket, upon entering the NBA he will challenge Dwyane Wade in terms of strongest wing players in the NBA. His pull up from the top of the key however is his best shot on the court.


I think Singler should be a good bit higher, he'll be a huge steal in my opinion that low.
Singler is too slow to be a SF in the NBA, and too undersized to be a PF in the NBA. Hes a tweener with a versatile offensive game, but I dont see him going Lottery or late teens unless he has a huge season at Duke that carries into the Tournament.


Warren's draft stock will depend on his ability to run point.
It wont be this season, Mason G will be at PG from the beginning this season. Warren has to show he can be a consistent scorer, instead of disappearing some games. He reminds me a lot of Eric Gordon, but he needs to be as productive as Eric Gordon was in college.




Isn't Bradley an undersized 2 guard? I think he's a bit high too, I only see him around your projected pick if he shows to be an effective 1.
Avery Bradley is a Mid 1st Rounder, he will likely be the 2nd CG to be Drafted. I've seen this kid twice,and read reviews on his other AAU performances and he seems to be too much of a tweener. Some team will draft him with the intention of developing his PG skills, but he'll stay on the court for his defense. Texas fans seem to think he can average 3 SPG this season.


Trevor Booker is a midget and I think Ebanks will a lottery pick once he showcases his stuff this year at WVU.

Booker isnt a 1st Round talent IMO, and Ebanks is too mentally weak to finally put it together. We've been hearing about his potential for too long, hes one of the most unspectacular, unimpactful, and overrated players in a long time. I've played against this dude, he is not NBA talent IMO. He'll get his chance in the NBA based on potential to be better when coached.



I'm looking at your mock and I don't see much star talent/potential to be stars from picks 5ish+. Some good starters and role players, with the top 3/4ish picks or so being almost guaranteed talent.
2010 Draft doesn't have the previously big names of the 2003 or 2008 NBA Draft but I think it will be the deepest Draft in NBA History(depending on if a lot of the guys declare)


If I was around 8-12, I'd take a risk and take someone like James Anderson, Ebanks, Aminu. Pure studs in my opinion. I also think with a mid 10's pick, I'd take Harris. 6'5'' and can play point.
Anderson is a good pick, he just needs to take over in terms of a leadership standpoint at OK State. Manny Harris is a sleeper, but I dont think he is a NBA PG.


Renardo Sidney's an overweight pig. He might do well in college, but he better shed some pounds and take intelligence pills if he wants to do well in the NBA.
Sidney's weight fluctuates, and hes not the most amazing athlete but his skill level is amazing. On the court hes basically Kevin Love with potential to be better, I think his ceiling as a player is post-knee surgery Webber where he learned how to position himself well and find teammates with his back to the basket. A skill Sidney already has, just needs to learn positioning in a NBA scheme. And Sidney has 3 PT range, he sometimes relies on it too much.

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I am seriously surprised nobody on this site realizes how good Kenneth Farried is, he potentially is the Next Dennis Rodman.

Whenever a Morehead State game is on your cable channel, order it. You wont be disappointed watching the rebound and intensity show that Kenneth Farried is all about.

[InspiredLebowski]

JaJaun Johnson's in, I approve. Even if I want him to be a 4 year player.

[Grinder]

I am seriously surprised nobody on this site realizes how good Kenneth Farried is, he potentially is the Next Dennis Rodman.

Whenever a Morehead State game is on your cable channel, order it. You wont be disappointed watching the rebound and intensity show that Kenneth Farried is all about.

I actually had Faried on here initially and then took him off, I think scouts will question his level of competition and he's obviously undersized. I don't doubt he can be a solid NBA player though.


Moteijunas will be a top 2 pick

Why do you and so many really think aldrich is a single digit pick- I agree that he may be an nba player, but in no way is he a top 5-10 pick

Singler will move up

Can't wait to see all of the freshman to get a better idea- is favors a 3 in the nba? Will bradley play pg for texas? Which nc frontcourt players step up the biggest(does unc have a second year freshman pf from 2 years ago mcdonalds game)?

Avery bradley (though you already have him high) and malcom lee have the most potential as gaurds to move into top 10 picks

Willie warren is a tough one too- there's a good chance gallon is a dominant player and the key to that team- where's gallon, and can it be warrens team? How is his draft stock effected if he's option 2

Motiejunas has skills but there's more talented players in this draft. He may be a 7 footer, but his wingspan is 6'11" and that's a huge disadvantage in the NBA defensively.

Aldrich has shown he can be productive on a good college team, he'll likely be the number 1 or 2 option on a national championship team, has a sweet jumper, and he's got a 7'6" wingspan with the ability to become a defensive force.

I'm not sure if Gallon will be a one and done and his weight issues are always a factor, but if he has a productive season, he could very well be a first rounder. I'm pretty sure Mason-Griffin will be the primary playmaker for Oklahoma, but Warren will be a big time scorer and definitely has Ben Gordon potential, that alone warrents a top 5 pick IMO.


I don't think Henson is one and done. Stanley Robinson has the potential to be a lottery pick, but he hasn't shown that he can put it all together at the same time to warrant you placing him in the top 14.

I think Robinson is going to have a breakout season this year, while he's an upperclassmen, he seems to be a late bloomer. You can't pass on a 6'9" wing prospect with his defensive skills and athleticism provided he has a productive senior season.


I don't question his ability, its just that UNC has 5 PFs on the roster. Playing time will likely be limited.

Williams has said that he'll be running Henson at the 3 alongside Thompson and Davis as well as backing up the 4. I doubt the Wear twins get much playing time this year and Henson should see plenty of it.


I think Henson will be making a giant mistake if he's one and done. UNC is stacked with big men and he's a STICK, I don't think a year is enough to muscle up for the NBA. He's built like Anthony Randolph Extra Lite.

Stephenson is too reliant on his strength from what I've read and has been struggling more against the developed competition.

I think Singler should be a good bit higher, he'll be a huge steal in my opinion that low.

Warren's draft stock will depend on his ability to run point.
Isn't Bradley an undersized 2 guard? I think he's a bit high too, I only see him around your projected pick if he shows to be an effective 1.
Trevor Booker is a midget and I think Ebanks will a lottery pick once he showcases his stuff this year at WVU.

I'm looking at your mock and I don't see much star talent/potential to be stars from picks 5ish+. Some good starters and role players, with the top 3/4ish picks or so being almost guaranteed talent.

If I was around 8-12, I'd take a risk and take someone like James Anderson, Ebanks, Aminu. Pure studs in my opinion. I also think with a mid 10's pick, I'd take Harris. 6'5'' and can play point.

Renardo Sidney's an overweight pig. He might do well in college, but he better shed some pounds and take intelligence pills if he wants to do well in the NBA.

Being ultra skinny seems to not be bothering scouts much nowadays, especially considering the success of Tayshaun Prince, Chris Bosh, Kevin Durant, and soon Anthony Randolph. From what I've seen of Henson in various games, I've been very impressed.

Singler is a big question mark, could go anywhere from late lottery to early second round.

Bradley is going to be a big time two way player and I think he makes up for being undersized at the two with his elite athleticism and incredible defensive ability. I think he'll surprise a lot of people and could go top 8.

[Grinder]

Tyreke Evans wasnt even considered a Top 20 pick at this point in 2008, I was one of the few who even argued with idiots that he could be a Lottery Pick with an impressive season. My opinion only changed when he was productive in the middle of the season but his stock never changed even with an impressive season, it wasnt until the workouts his stock rose.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125766

I was probably the only guy on here that said Tyreke could crack the top 5 and was a certain top 10 pick early in 09.


Nonsense, he can create his shot better than anyone in the college game, especially at his age level. He has no problems getting into the lane and already has an NBA ready body and strength to absorb contact and finish.

This guy is going to be a stud in the league, and if he doesn't go top 10, a lot of teams will regret not drafting him in a few years.


The buzz I've been hearing from a lot of scouts is that a deep run in the tournament with a solid performance from Tyreke could push him as far as the top 5. Same goes for Willie Warren of Oklahoma.


No it wont.

Tyreke isn't going Top 10 no matter what,the highest is Late Lottery considering he was considered to go between 20-25 in most Mock Drafts

Willie Warren is pushing into the Top 10, but that bull**** about Tyreke isnt true.

Not trying to rub it in your face or anything, but you gotta give me props on that one and admit you were wrong. :oldlol:





Booker isnt a 1st Round talent IMO, and Ebanks is too mentally weak to finally put it together. We've been hearing about his potential for too long, hes one of the most unspectacular, unimpactful, and overrated players in a long time. I've played against this dude, he is not NBA talent IMO. He'll get his chance in the NBA based on potential to be better when coached.



2010 Draft doesn't have the previously big names of the 2003 or 2008 NBA Draft but I think it will be the deepest Draft in NBA History(depending on if a lot of the guys declare)


Anderson is a good pick, he just needs to take over in terms of a leadership standpoint at OK State. Manny Harris is a sleeper, but I dont think he is a NBA PG.


The success of tank-ish undersized 4s like Powe, Bass, Maxiell, Craig Smith should help Booker find his way into the first round.

Ebanks has lottery talent, he's not gonna get there, but he'll get drafted on his potential in the first round if nothing else.

Agreed on the depth of this draft.

Manny Harris is going to be steal for whoever drafts him in the late first round.

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I wasn't wrong about Tyreke, his stock skyrocketed weeks before the Draft. That post I made was during the Tournament, the following day against Mizzou is when everyone began to take notice of Tyreke.

He wasnt even 100% sure about his stock, which is a reason why he held off on hiring an agent. He became a Lottery Lock after a few workouts, then hired an agent.

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The success of tank-ish undersized 4s like Powe, Bass, Maxiell, Craig Smith should help Booker find his way into the first round.
Doubt it, the success of those guys will get him selected in the 2nd Round, remember hes going to be a 4 year player without a high ceiling.


Ebanks has lottery talent, he's not gonna get there, but he'll get drafted on his potential in the first round if nothing else.
Ebanks doesn't have lottery talent, he has potential to have lottery talent. Hes long, athletic, but shows signs he can be better as a player but we've expected him to finally do this for 4 years now since he came onto the scene at BM.



Manny Harris is going to be steal for whoever drafts him in the late first round.
Yeah, hes been slept on due to Michigan. He kinda reminds me of Voshon Lenard.

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JaJaun Johnson's in, I approve. Even if I want him to be a 4 year player.
The 2010 Draft will be the deepest PF Draft in NBA History.

We're looking at a lot of great players at the 4 who will be in this Draft, potentially 10/15 of the Top 15 picks will be PF's.

Green(IMO will be Top 5 Pick after breakout season)
Aldrich
Monroe
Davis
Henson
Donuts
Favors
Brackins
Sidney
Sanders

Then you have others on the outside looking in like Jajuan Johnson, Tiny Gallon, Demarcus Cousins, Kenneth Faried, Yancy Gates, Gani Lawal, Jarvis Varnardo, Patrick Patterson, Deshawn Sims, Derrick Caracter(UTEP), Arnett Moultrie, Luke Harangody, Samardo Samuels, and Angel Garcia.

This is an extremely deep potential PF crop by NBA standards. Bigs are more valuable than Wings becuase of the development factor that comes with big men and how sitting them on the bench or in the NBDL is more valuable than doing so with a Guard.

[Snoop_Cat]

I do agree that Henson is very skilled, but from the videos I've seen, he looks even skinnier than the skinniest guys we know.

I think Harris is good enough to play either guard, and at 6'5'', that propels him up my personal boards. Him in the mid to late 20's will be an absolute steal if they use him correctly.

With Ruoff and others gone at WVU and being another year older, I think Ebanks will put up some impressive games, have good stats and the potential to be a lottery pick, though I think with him comes a big chance of bust.

Can anyone give me a synopsis on DeMarcus Cousins by the way?

The top of this draft has the potential to be as good as the top of some of the best drafts ever. John Wall for obvious reasons, an even better Greg Monroe on top of the skill set he showed at GTown, and hopefully they'll run their offense more through him. Derrick Favors is beastin'. Unless they have sub-par seasons, I have Wall/Monroe being 1/2 or 2/1 and Favors going 3.

I find it hard to believe Booker, Harangody, etc. will find their way to the 1st round.Yes guys like Maxiell have found success but guys like BB Davis, Boozer, always tend to go late 1st/2nd. Patterson's also a bit short, but he's beast at UK and was thoguht to maybe go mid first in last year's weak ass draft.

Caracter's a total waste of talent, I hope he doesn't get drafted.
Aldrich is mediocre NBA talent at best in my eyes, but teams always need a big guy that plays good D and can sometimes help them go higher. (See Case Study: Hasheem ThaBust)

[A.M.G.]

Talent, and if they declare they are at best Lottery Draft Picks.


Sidney has lost weight once again, and Lance Stephenson had his case settled about 2 months ago.


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Thats ridiculous, we're talking about game changing talents in both players. Their stocks dropped due to their status as recruits, there were questions about eligibility that affected their rankings. Stephenson is the #1 ranked SF in the country, and Sidney is the #2 ranked PF in the country. Both are at schools that will focus around their abilities, and both will be Lottery Picks unless they drop unexpectedly. Lance Stephenson is a "Playground" Paul Pierce type of player, and Renardo Sidney is the most skilled big man to come out of HS in years. I have enough reason to believe both will be Lottery Picks.


For now?

Its August, the Draft is in June. These rankings are stupid currently if you're passing them off as fact now. Everything is speculation until June.

Tyreke Evans wasnt even considered a Top 20 pick at this point in 2008, I was one of the few who even argued with idiots that he could be a Lottery Pick with an impressive season. My opinion only changed when he was productive in the middle of the season but his stock never changed even with an impressive season, it wasnt until the workouts his stock rose.
"Talent", oh yeah that explains everything. Being talented does not guarantee you are going to be a lottery pick. And these two are not talented enough to warrant spending lottery picks on them after one season, I'm telling you they will not be that good as freshmen.

"Game changing talents"? Would you like to explain that, how Lance and Sidney are these special can't miss basketball talents for the NBA? Any five star recruit is going to be a game changer, that doesn't mean he will be an NBA player, let alone a one-and-done lottery pick. As far as I can see Sidney is a fat Channing Frye, and Lance is... well certainly not even close to Paul Pierce, ever. The NBA is not holding its breath for his arrival, and he'd better realize that.

"Both will be Lottery Picks unless they drop unexpectedly" <<< this makes me think you might be delusional, because as far as I can tell, they are not currently projected as lottery picks. They have already dropped in the high school rankings for a reason, if anything they will not be Lottery Picks unless they rise unexpectedly. In other words, in REALITY they will have to have big-time seasons to even be first rounders, let alone lottery picks, as one-and-done NBA draft entrees.



Tyreke Evans has nothing to do with this, for every player whose NBA stock rose like Tyreke's did, there are dozens who realized they would be second rounders and stayed in school for a few more years.

Both of them will be NBA players, barring some catastrophe for one of them, but I would avatar bet you that neither Lance Stephenson or Renardo Sidney will be Lottery Picks in the 2010 NBA draft.

[el gringos]

I think you amg and others get way too into "stock" and how these websites have the players ranked- they are so far off that it convices the readers of things that are not possible (ex koufos and bj mullins as top 2-3 picks these past few years- never should have been thought of like that but thy were at this time through the beginning parts of the college year)

Sure its not a sure thing on any of these guys, maybe even more unsure w sidney but its still a fact that he has one of the top ceilings of any of the prospects

So no just because you keep reading it aldrich is not a top 5ish pick and moteijunas isn't in the second teir of this draft- this thread is great because of all the personal beliefs about what these prospects will be- don't stand to strong w the "stock" according to the "experts"- they're not too much closer than many of the posters here- long ways to go

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"Talent", oh yeah that explains everything. Being talented does not guarantee you are going to be a lottery pick. And these two are not talented enough to warrant spending lottery picks on them after one season, I'm telling you they will not be that good as freshmen.

"Game changing talents"? Would you like to explain that, how Lance and Sidney are these special can't miss basketball talents for the NBA? Any five star recruit is going to be a game changer, that doesn't mean he will be an NBA player, let alone a one-and-done lottery pick. As far as I can see Sidney is a fat Channing Frye, and Lance is... well certainly not even close to Paul Pierce, ever. The NBA is not holding its breath for his arrival, and he'd better realize that.

"Both will be Lottery Picks unless they drop unexpectedly" <<< this makes me think you might be delusional, because as far as I can tell, they are not currently projected as lottery picks. They have already dropped in the high school rankings for a reason, if anything they will not be Lottery Picks unless they rise unexpectedly. In other words, in REALITY they will have to have big-time seasons to even be first rounders, let alone lottery picks, as one-and-done NBA draft entrees.



Tyreke Evans has nothing to do with this, for every player whose NBA stock rose like Tyreke's did, there are dozens who realized they would be second rounders and stayed in school for a few more years.

Both of them will be NBA players, barring some catastrophe for one of them, but I would avatar bet you that neither Lance Stephenson or Renardo Sidney will be Lottery Picks in the 2010 NBA draft.
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Im not arguing with you kid, you're taking too much stock in your own opinion of how late season HS rankings relates to the NBA Draft.

You're talking out of your ass, you've never seen Lance or Renardo play or know much about them other than what you come across on Rivals. Thats my only conclusion for you continuing to believe the crap you're spewing about both players not being talented enough to be Lottery Picks, keep digging son.


This isnt the first time you've done this, you have been on the record claiming Lance was overrated and not going to be Drafted. Go ahead and believe what you want. If theres 1 thing about me, You know my analysis is 100% correct about players. Lance is among the 5 most talented players in 2010, hes going to a team where he will be the focal point of their offense, he has ideal size for a NBA swingman. Look him up sir.:D

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I think you amg and others get way too into "stock" and how these websites have the players ranked- they are so far off that it convices the readers of things that are not possible (ex koufos and bj mullins as top 2-3 picks these past few years- never should have been thought of like that but thy were at this time through the beginning parts of the college year)

Sure its not a sure thing on any of these guys, maybe even more unsure w sidney but its still a fact that he has one of the top ceilings of any of the prospects

So no just because you keep reading it aldrich is not a top 5ish pick and moteijunas isn't in the second teir of this draft- this thread is great because of all the personal beliefs about what these prospects will be- don't stand to strong w the "stock" according to the "experts"- they're not too much closer than many of the posters here- long ways to go
Me?

Mullens would've been a Top 5 Pick had Thad Matta not limited his role as a Freshman, and Kofous was not considered a Lottery Pick before he began his Freshman year mostly because most "experts" believed he wouldn't be in the NBA for 3 years(whether he spent that time in college or playing in Greece) instead of a 1 & Done.

[A.M.G.]

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Im not arguing with you kid, you're taking too much stock in your own opinion of how late season HS rankings relates to the NBA Draft.

You're talking out of your ass, you've never seen Lance or Renardo play or know much about them other than what you come across on Rivals. Thats my only conclusion for you continuing to believe the crap you're spewing about both players not being talented enough to be Lottery Picks, keep digging son.


This isnt the first time you've done this, you have been on the record claiming Lance was overrated and not going to be Drafted. Go ahead and believe what you want. If theres 1 thing about me, You know my analysis is 100% correct about players. Lance is among the 5 most talented players in 2010, hes going to a team where he will be the focal point of their offense, he has ideal size for a NBA swingman. Look him up sir.:D
Yeah, actually I said that you were overrating Lance. Other people don't overrate him anymore. other people wouldn't be foolish enough to say that he is among the 5 most talented players who will be available in the 2010 Draft, because he isn't. And I never said he wouldn't be drafted, I've said he will be drafted much, much lower than he might want if he tries to be a one'n'done. And no, you're analysis on players is pretty ****ing far from 100% correct, you're delusional. Didn't you say that Keith Brumbaugh would be a lottery pick? And Romero Osby would be the next Michael Beasley? Awwww, fail.



Anyways, look, I'm not saying that Lance and Renardo aren't going to be in the NBA at some point. What I'm saying is they are not going to be Lottery Picks if they enter the NBA Draft next year. Not even close.

I am almost sure they will not have good enough seasons as freshmen to be considered lottery picks, and even if they do (they won't though) their reputations might hurt them in the eyes of NBA scouts and GMs. FOs won't want to risk spending a lottery pick on a player whose attitude/maturity/intelligence might be a serious problem (Sidney=Eddy Curry).

And seriously, in terms of talent, we aren't talking about Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant being forced to go to college, we're talking about a fat stupid lard and a ball-hogging prima donna, who both think they're much better than they actually are. Neither player projects to be anything special on the NBA level, and yes I'm basing that one what I know from them and what I've sen on youtube. They are just not that good.

I've never done an avatar bet before, but I will do a long term one with you on this, if you're down - Neither Renardo Sidney nor Lance Stephenson will be Lottery Picks in the 2010 NBA Draft.

[jyoung4]

Yeah, actually I said that you were overrating Lance. Other people don't overrate him anymore. other people wouldn't be foolish enough to say that he is among the 5 most talented players who will be available in the 2010 Draft, because he isn't. And I never said he wouldn't be drafted, I've said he will be drafted much, much lower than he might want if he tries to be a one'n'done. And no, you're analysis on players is pretty ****ing far from 100% correct, you're delusional. Didn't you say that Keith Brumbaugh would be a lottery pick? And Romero Osby would be the next Michael Beasley? Awwww, fail.



Anyways, look, I'm not saying that Lance and Renardo aren't going to be in the NBA at some point. What I'm saying is they are not going to be Lottery Picks if they enter the NBA Draft next year. Not even close.

I am almost sure they will not have good enough seasons as freshmen to be considered lottery picks, and even if they do (they won't though) their reputations might hurt them in the eyes of NBA scouts and GMs. FOs won't want to risk spending a lottery pick on a player whose attitude/maturity/intelligence might be a serious problem (Sidney=Eddy Curry).

And seriously, in terms of talent, we aren't talking about Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant being forced to go to college, we're talking about a fat stupid lard and a ball-hogging prima donna, who both think they're much better than they actually are. Neither player projects to be anything special on the NBA level, and yes I'm basing that one what I know from them and what I've sen on youtube. They are just not that good.

I've never done an avatar bet before, but I will do a long term one with you on this, if you're down - Neither Renardo Sidney nor Lance Stephenson will be Lottery Picks in the 2010 NBA Draft.

I agree with A.M.G..Niether are going to be in the 2010 lottery. I'm higher on Lance then what the current majority thinks of him, but he isn't a top flight athlete, and other than his ability to put the ball in the hole I don't see a ton right now from him. Also, until one of these hyped NYC products with questionable attitudes pans out I am not going to be made a fool of by betting that they end up an All-Star.

Sidney is different for me because I see a drive in Lance, and I mean I don't have first hand knowledge, but Sidney seems to sneak by on talent, not hard work. The best I can see him ending up as is Zach Randolph, which is pretty good in the grand scheme of things, but I don't think a desirable player for teams.

If Lance shows improved ball handling, shot selection, and some defense I could see him going pretty high, but not in the lottery. Maybe 15-20. He just isn't the type of athlete that teams are going select in the lottery. Sidney needs more work. If he gets in shape he has the tools, but that has been the question with him for the past 4 years.

[d_white089]

It's always fun to check these a year later and see how far off you were. :oldlol:


John Wall (Kentucky)
Greg Monroe (Georgetown)
Derrick Favors (Georgia Tech)
Willie Warren (Oklahoma)
Donatas Motiejunas (Treviso)
Cole Aldrich (Kansas)
Evan Turner (Ohio State)
Ed Davis (North Carolina)
Al-Farouq Aminu (Wake Forest)
John Henson (North Carolina)
DeMarcus Cousins (Kentucky)
Avery Bradley (Texas)
Patrick Patterson (Kentucky)
Stanley Robinson (Connecticut)
James Anderson (Oklahoma State)
Craig Brackins (Iowa State)
Devin Ebanks (West Virginia)
Trevor Booker (Clemson)
Tyshawn Taylor (Kansas)
Larry Sanders (Virginia Commonwealth)
Jarvis Varnado (Mississippi State)
Xavier Henry (Kansas)
Jan Vesely (Partizan)
Manny Harris (Michigan)
Michael Washington (Arkansas)
JaJuan Johnson (Purdue)
Kyle Singler (Duke)
Gani Lawal (Georgia Tech)
Alexey Shved (CSKA)
Solomon Alabi (Florida State)


Your #17 will be top 4-5.

[Interminator]

Yeah, actually I said that you were overrating Lance. Other people don't overrate him anymore. other people wouldn't be foolish enough to say that he is among the 5 most talented players who will be available in the 2010 Draft, because he isn't. And I never said he wouldn't be drafted, I've said he will be drafted much, much lower than he might want if he tries to be a one'n'done. And no, you're analysis on players is pretty ****ing far from 100% correct, you're delusional. Didn't you say that Keith Brumbaugh would be a lottery pick? And Romero Osby would be the next Michael Beasley? Awwww, fail.



Anyways, look, I'm not saying that Lance and Renardo aren't going to be in the NBA at some point. What I'm saying is they are not going to be Lottery Picks if they enter the NBA Draft next year. Not even close.

I am almost sure they will not have good enough seasons as freshmen to be considered lottery picks, and even if they do (they won't though) their reputations might hurt them in the eyes of NBA scouts and GMs. FOs won't want to risk spending a lottery pick on a player whose attitude/maturity/intelligence might be a serious problem (Sidney=Eddy Curry).

And seriously, in terms of talent, we aren't talking about Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant being forced to go to college, we're talking about a fat stupid lard and a ball-hogging prima donna, who both think they're much better than they actually are. Neither player projects to be anything special on the NBA level, and yes I'm basing that one what I know from them and what I've sen on youtube. They are just not that good.

I've never done an avatar bet before, but I will do a long term one with you on this, if you're down - Neither Renardo Sidney nor Lance Stephenson will be Lottery Picks in the 2010 NBA Draft.
I'll do the Avatar bet.

I will continue to rub this in your face the entire year when you're biting your words on Lance & Renardo. Secondly, I never claimed Brumbaugh was going to be a Lottery Pick. I claimed on skill set Keith Brumbaugh is a better player than Michael Beasley, and I will admit Romero Osby was a stretch to project but he also is very talented.

Why would Lance Stephenson not be a Lottery Pick?

A 6'5 220+ lb swingman capable of creating his own shot, getting into the paint at will with a streetball handle, and capable of going off for 30+ point games. His faults fall on his tendency to isolate, his tendency to get frustrated easily on the court and that he isnt a freak athlete although his strength makes up for it. If you claim you're basing your opinion off of Lance Stephenson off of Youtube, although never seeing him play, how can you tell he isnt talented enough to be a Lottery Pick?

I've had these discussions with kids for years now on this site, just like last year where people claimed Brandon Jennings wouldnt be a Lottery Pick. You cant sit around and disregard talent when its there, Lance clearly is among the 5 most talented players in the Class of 2009 and should be a Lottery Pick in 2010.

You're judging Lance from how his rankings fell late in the year, but you're forgetting that Rankings have a lot to do with school interest & recent play. Avery Bradley is not the #1 HS player in the country, although the Rankings claim he is. Players' stocks have dropped before at the end of their Senior Yr and their chance to regain it is during their Freshman year as did OJ Mayo 2 years ago.

You're thinking too much into the Rankings brah, Lance lost the hype due to his long drawn out recruiting process.

[A.M.G.]

I'll do the Avatar bet.

I will continue to rub this in your face the entire year when you're biting your words on Lance & Renardo. Secondly, I never claimed Brumbaugh was going to be a Lottery Pick. I claimed on skill set Keith Brumbaugh is a better player than Michael Beasley, and I will admit Romero Osby was a stretch to project but he also is very talented.

Why would Lance Stephenson not be a Lottery Pick?

A 6'5 220+ lb swingman capable of creating his own shot, getting into the paint at will with a streetball handle, and capable of going off for 30+ point games. His faults fall on his tendency to isolate, his tendency to get frustrated easily on the court and that he isnt a freak athlete although his strength makes up for it. If you claim you're basing your opinion off of Lance Stephenson off of Youtube, although never seeing him play, how can you tell he isnt talented enough to be a Lottery Pick?

I've had these discussions with kids for years now on this site, just like last year where people claimed Brandon Jennings wouldnt be a Lottery Pick. You cant sit around and disregard talent when its there, Lance clearly is among the 5 most talented players in the Class of 2009 and should be a Lottery Pick in 2010.

You're judging Lance from how his rankings fell late in the year, but you're forgetting that Rankings have a lot to do with school interest & recent play. Avery Bradley is not the #1 HS player in the country, although the Rankings claim he is. Players' stocks have dropped before at the end of their Senior Yr and their chance to regain it is during their Freshman year as did OJ Mayo 2 years ago.

You're thinking too much into the Rankings brah, Lance lost the hype due to his long drawn out recruiting process.
Echo, echo, echo...

First things first, I know you didn't do it on purpose, but delete the duplicates.

What should be the conditions of the avatar bet? I've never done one.

But I am totally down with doing it because I really don't see either Lance or Renardo being lottery picks in 2010. I believe that both are immature kids with questionable amateur status, and that neither has the talent to be a lottery pick if they go one'n'done. Thus, I believe I will win it.

We'll see who is rubbing whose nose in what this upcoming college season. These two morons are going to get a harsh wake-up call, I'm telling you. I'll admit I'm a little nervous that Lance will raise Cincy's stock a lot and that will get him drafted, but I'm just betting it won't be lottery. As for Sidney, unless he's slimmed down a lot and raised his IQ by a dozen points, I can't see him having a lottery pick season.

But seriously, what kind of conditions for the avy bet?

[Interminator]

What should be the conditions of the avatar bet? I've never done one.
It doesnt matter, maybe an avatar of the winners choosing.
Likely, I will be Banned on this website by then so we'll see what happens.


But I am totally down with doing it because I really don't see either Lance or Renardo being lottery picks in 2010. I believe that both are immature kids with questionable amateur status, and that neither has the talent to be a lottery pick if they go one'n'done. Thus, I believe I will win it.
No problem.
I'm going to post my own ridiculously early 2010 Mock Draft, name me prospects that their positions that you will believe will go ahead of them in the 2010 Draft if they declare.




We'll see who is rubbing whose nose in what this upcoming college season. These two morons are going to get a harsh wake-up call, I'm telling you. I'll admit I'm a little nervous that Lance will raise Cincy's stock a lot and that will get him drafted, but I'm just betting it won't be lottery. As for Sidney, unless he's slimmed down a lot and raised his IQ by a dozen points, I can't see him having a lottery pick season.
Lance will be impressive at Cincinatti because Cronin will give him the opportunity to isolate, people like Lance because he'll single out a specific player and attempt to show them up on the court. He'll get attention specifically because hes a NYC Legend.

Sidney's weight fluctuates, however you do realize hes nothing like Eddy Curry. Sidney runs the court extremely well, is always in basketball shape due to his father's heavy AAU schedule, and can attack the basket facing up. If you want a good comparison for Renardo Sidney, think a stronger version of Charlie Villanueva with good positioning technique. Renardo Sidney's downfall is his lack of basketball IQ, and immaturity on the court attempting to do more than what is necessary, along with him complaining on every play instead of manning up to his own mistakes. However his potential still overwhelms his weaknesses currently. Him playing next to a defensive minded C will make him look much better.


But seriously, what kind of conditions for the avy bet?
Both Lance & Renardo are picked in the Top 15 in 2010, if neither declares although unlikely the bet is lost. If 1 declares, the bet falls on the player who did declare.

[A.M.G.]

It doesnt matter, maybe an avatar of the winners choosing.
Likely, I will be Banned on this website by then so we'll see what happens.


No problem.
I'm going to post my own ridiculously early 2010 Mock Draft, name me prospects that their positions that you will believe will go ahead of them in the 2010 Draft if they declare.




Lance will be impressive at Cincinatti because Cronin will give him the opportunity to isolate, people like Lance because he'll single out a specific player and attempt to show them up on the court. He'll get attention specifically because hes a NYC Legend.

Sidney's weight fluctuates, however you do realize hes nothing like Eddy Curry. Sidney runs the court extremely well, is always in basketball shape due to his father's heavy AAU schedule, and can attack the basket facing up. If you want a good comparison for Renardo Sidney, think a stronger version of Charlie Villanueva with good positioning technique. Renardo Sidney's downfall is his lack of basketball IQ, and immaturity on the court attempting to do more than what is necessary, along with him complaining on every play instead of manning up to his own mistakes. However his potential still overwhelms his weaknesses currently. Him playing next to a defensive minded C will make him look much better.


Both Lance & Renardo are picked in the Top 15 in 2010, if neither declares although unlikely the bet is lost. If 1 declares, the bet falls on the player who did declare.
Top 15? Last I checked, the lottery is the top 14 picks, the teams that didn't make the playoffs and were in the DRAFT LOTTERY. Just so we're clear.

So you, Interminator, are betting that: EITHER Renardo Sidney or Lance Stephenson (or both) will be drafted with a top 14 overall draft pick (ie. a lottery pick) in the 2010 NBA draft.

And I, A.M.G., am betting that: NEITHER Renardo Sidney nor Lance Stephenson will be drafted with a top 14 overall draft pick (ie. a lottery pick) in the 2010 NBA draft.

It doesn't matter for what reason, one of Sidney or Stephenson must be drafted Lottery for you to win, and neither must be drafted Lottery for me to win. It doesn't matter if one or both of them transfers, or gets injured, or loses amateur status, or fails academically, or doesn't declare for the draft, or just plain sucks ass, or whatever. The bet is that at least one/neither will be drafted lottery in the 2010 NBA Draft. Clear?

And let's say the loser has to wear an avatar of the winner's choosing from the day after draft day until the beginning of the NBA regular season. And it can't involve nudity/serious vulgarity/other bannable stuff. Don't make this personal. I'll probably just make you wear one that has Lance or Renardo's face on it with "fail" painted on.

Done? Do we have an avy bet? No *****ing out once you say done.

[el gringos]

1-jazz-d moteijunas 7-0 pf

2-rockets-j wall 6-4 pg

3-bobcats-g monroe 6-11 pf

4-bucks-d favors 6-9 pf

5-twolves-a fariq-aminu 6-9 f

6-kings-a bradley 6-3 pg

7-nets-r sidney 6-10 pf

8-warriors-k singler 6-9 sf

9-grizzlies-m lee 6-5 pg

10-pacers-x henry 6-6 sg

[Maga_1]

1-jazz-d moteijunas 7-0 pf

2-rockets-j wall 6-4 pg

3-bobcats-g monroe 6-11 pf

4-bucks-d favors 6-9 pf

5-twolves-a fariq-aminu 6-9 f

6-kings-a bradley 6-3 pg

7-nets-r sidney 6-10 pf

8-warriors-k singler 6-9 sf

9-grizzlies-m lee 6-5 pg

10-pacers-x henry 6-6 sg

I just don't agree with the Motijuenas with the 1st pick, it's not because is not good. It's about the "Wall's thing"

[el gringos]

I just don't agree with the Motijuenas with the 1st pick, it's not because is not good. It's about the "Wall's thing"

wall still has some to prove in ncaa to be one of these great draft prospects- I think he will prove to be top pick worthy and I like him a lot as a prospect but don't think that right now he is the clear cut top pick

Moteijunas is a great prospect as well- he would have been 2 last draft and I don't see him not going top 2 in this- as the year goes by and you hear and see more of him I think he becomes a huge prospect- who was the most skilled 7 foot draft prospect? was the best international prospect ever? He might end up both

its a toss-up between wall and moteijunas for the 1st pick right now

[Interminator]

Donut Moteijunas seems like hes going to be belittled constantly leading up to the Draft espescially if he somehow is the #1 pick.

[Lancerballer21]

It's always fun to check these a year later and see how far off you were. :oldlol:


John Wall (Kentucky)
Greg Monroe (Georgetown)
Derrick Favors (Georgia Tech)
Willie Warren (Oklahoma)
Donatas Motiejunas (Treviso)
Cole Aldrich (Kansas)
Evan Turner (Ohio State)
Ed Davis (North Carolina)
Al-Farouq Aminu (Wake Forest)
John Henson (North Carolina)
DeMarcus Cousins (Kentucky)
Avery Bradley (Texas)
Patrick Patterson (Kentucky)
Stanley Robinson (Connecticut)
James Anderson (Oklahoma State)
Craig Brackins (Iowa State)
Devin Ebanks (West Virginia)
Trevor Booker (Clemson)
Tyshawn Taylor (Kansas)
Larry Sanders (Virginia Commonwealth)
Jarvis Varnado (Mississippi State)
Xavier Henry (Kansas)
Jan Vesely (Partizan)
Manny Harris (Michigan)
Michael Washington (Arkansas)
JaJuan Johnson (Purdue)
Kyle Singler (Duke)
Gani Lawal (Georgia Tech)
Alexey Shved (CSKA)
Solomon Alabi (Florida State)

If he enters the draft after this year i can see him being the first buckeye drafted in the top 10 since greg oden and Mike conley

[Maga_1]

I think that Monroe is gonna be the first pick overall , feeling.

[Grinder]

Pre-conference play update. Man, this draft class is deep.

John Wall (Kentucky)
Derrick Favors (Georgia Tech)
Ed Davis (UNC)
Wesley Johnson (Syracuse)
Evan Turner (Ohio State) - no idea how serious his injury is, if healthy he's the clear cut number 3, didn't want to drop him too low at this point.
Cole Aldrich (Kansas)
Al-Farouq Aminu (Wake Forest)
Donatas Motiejunas (Treviso)
Patrick Patterson (Kentucky)
Willie Warren (Oklahoma)
Greg Monroe (Georgetown)
Devin Ebanks (West Virginia)
Charles Garcia (Seattle)
Solomon Alabi (Florida State)
Xavier Henry (Kansas)
Jan Vesely (Partizan)
Stanley Robinson (UConn)
Jerome Jordan (Tulsa)
Kyle Singler (Duke)
Craig Brackins (Iowa State)
Luke Babbitt (Nevada)
Ekpe Udoh (Baylor)
Demarcus Cousins (Kentucky)
Klay Thompson (Washington State)
Jarvis Varnado (Mississippi State)
Kemba Walker (UConn)
Gani Lawal (Georgia Tech)
Yancy Gates (Cincinnati)
Manny Harris (Michigan)
Quincy Pondexter (Washington)

[Kebab Stall]

I just can't see Monroe falling past the 10th pick. He might not have the athletic ability or the astounding stats, but he's a fantastic player. He does what it takes to win and if he can keep up his excellent play, he should be able to take the Hoyas to the NCAA tournament, with a pretty good seed. If he does that, he will shoot up the draft boards.

[UConnCeltics]

Georgetown does not have good system where Monroe can show what he really does. If he is a late lottery pick or even falls out of the lottery, that would be an absolute steal. It also might be time for Jerome Dyson to start slipping up into the first round. The combo guard is averaging 20/5/5 with 1 block and 1.5 steals on the year in 34 minutes a game.

[Afrosrb]

Georgetown does not have good system where Monroe can show what he really does. If he is a late lottery pick or even falls out of the lottery, that would be an absolute steal. It also might be time for Jerome Dyson to start slipping up into the first round. The combo guard is averaging 20/5/5 with 1 block and 1.5 steals on the year in 34 minutes a game.

South Africn prospect for the future?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zgYp4dwRCo

[el gringos]

1-wall 6-4 pg kentucky
2-motiejunas 7-0 pf lithania
3-cousins 6-? c/pf kentucky
4-monroe 6-11 c/pf gtown
5-favors 6-9 pf g tech
6-bradley 6-3 pg texas
7-fariq aminu 6-9 pf/sf wf
8-X henry 6-6 sg kansas
9-singler 6-9 sf duke
10-sidney 6-10 pf
11-veseley 6-11 pf czech rep
12-lee 6-5 pg ucla
13-johnson 6-7 sg/sf syracuse
14-harris 6-8 sf gonzaga
15-bjelica 6-10 sf serbia
16-sacre 7-0 c gonzaga
17-warren 6-4 pg oklahoma
18-ebanks 6-? Sg/sf wv
19-saraphin 6-10 pf france
20-aldrich 6-10 c kansas
21-davis 6-9 pf unc
22-smith 6-7 sg/sf tennessee
23-plumlee 6-11 pf duke
24-harris 6-5 sg/pg michigan
25-brackins 6-10 pg iowast
26-robinson 6-9 sf uconn
27-hopson 6-6 sg tennessee
28-bouldin 6-5 pg gonzaga
29-summers 6-4 sg/pg mich st
30-dyson 6-? pg uconn

[Buffalobraves]

1-wall 6-4 pg kentucky
2-motiejunas 7-0 pf lithania
3-cousins 6-? c/pf kentucky
4-monroe 6-11 c/pf gtown
5-favors 6-9 pf g tech
6-bradley 6-3 pg texas
7-fariq aminu 6-9 pf/sf wf
8-X henry 6-6 sg kansas
9-singler 6-9 sf duke
10-sidney 6-10 pf
11-veseley 6-11 pf czech rep
12-lee 6-5 pg ucla
13-johnson 6-7 sg/sf syracuse
14-harris 6-8 sf gonzaga
15-bjelica 6-10 sf serbia
16-sacre 7-0 c gonzaga
17-warren 6-4 pg oklahoma
18-ebanks 6-? Sg/sf wv
19-saraphin 6-10 pf france
20-aldrich 6-10 c kansas
21-davis 6-9 pf unc
22-smith 6-7 sg/sf tennessee
23-plumlee 6-11 pf duke
24-harris 6-5 sg/pg michigan
25-brackins 6-10 pg iowast
26-robinson 6-9 sf uconn
27-hopson 6-6 sg tennessee
28-bouldin 6-5 pg gonzaga
29-summers 6-4 sg/pg mich st
30-dyson 6-? pg uconn
Johnson at 13? I think he should be higher than that.
10 is too high for Sidney.
Lee and Harris shouldn't even be on here.
Where is Patterson?
Cousions is too high.

Theres a lot more wrong with this I just don't feel like dissecting the whole thing.

[Buffalobraves]

Delete this, double post.

[Grinder]

1-wall 6-4 pg kentucky
2-motiejunas 7-0 pf lithania - too high for Motiejunas at this point
3-cousins 6-? c/pf kentucky
4-monroe 6-11 c/pf gtown - Monroe hasn't played as expected at this point and there's a good chance he'll go back to school with his current draft stock
5-favors 6-9 pf g tech - probably not falling out of the top 4
6-bradley 6-3 pg texas - impressive, but hasn't proved that he's a top 10 pick yet, there's a good chance he'll go back to school and become a top 5 pick
7-fariq aminu 6-9 pf/sf wf
8-X henry 6-6 sg kansas
9-singler 6-9 sf duke - No way Singler goes top 10
10-sidney 6-10 pf - Sidney going top 10 without any college ball? He'll be lucky to get drafted :oldlol:
11-veseley 6-11 pf czech rep
12-lee 6-5 pg ucla - He's putting up decent numbers on a terrible team and shooting well under 50%, no way he goes first round let alone lottery
13-johnson 6-7 sg/sf syracuse - Wes Johnson has been a beast and is showing he can be a very productive wing at the NBA level, he'll go top 10
14-harris 6-8 sf gonzaga
15-bjelica 6-10 sf serbia - No way, he's averaging 6 points and 4 boards in 24 mpg on a very mediocre team
16-sacre 7-0 c gonzaga - Sacre would be lucky to get drafted if he puts his name in the draft this year...
17-warren 6-4 pg oklahoma
18-ebanks 6-? Sg/sf wv
19-saraphin 6-10 pf france - 4 ppg in the French league isn't going to get him drafted mid first round this year
20-aldrich 6-10 c kansas - absolutely no way he slips past the lottery
21-davis 6-9 pf unc - same as Aldrich
22-smith 6-7 sg/sf tennessee - No one's gonna draft him first round after his recent arrest
23-plumlee 6-11 pf duke - Neither Plumlee brother has showed enough to declare for the draft
24-harris 6-5 sg/pg michigan
25-brackins 6-10 pg iowast
26-robinson 6-9 sf uconn - should be higher
27-hopson 6-6 sg tennessee
28-bouldin 6-5 pg gonzaga
29-summers 6-4 sg/pg mich st
30-dyson 6-? pg uconn

Oh man.

Where's Evan Turner, Patrick Patterson, and Solomon Alabi? Dyson is probably not going first round either, Kemba Walker has a better shot.

[el gringos]

Oh man.

Where's Evan Turner, Patrick Patterson, and Solomon Alabi? Dyson is probably not going first round either, Kemba Walker has a better shot.

Good responses, thanks


I've never considered patterson as a 1st rounder, though this year he's closer than ever- so maybe he slides into the 1st but he isn't a lock


Malcom lee has shown he isn't a #1 scoring option, but to me he has shown he can handle the ball well enough and has shown huge defensive potential- you guys don't like lee, why not tell me besides wall, bradley, and if you think warren- who else is a better nba pg prospect than lee



I need to see more players, so I like the comments, I wanted to include alibi but really haven't seen him and didn't want to guess (even though that's how I threw vesely and bjelica in)


I've never seen turner as the kind of prospect many of you do- esp off a serious injury


You're right on dyson/walker, I'm thinking I wrote the wrong one, I like the little bigger more athletic one, I think it is walker

[chairman]

I am seriously surprised nobody on this site realizes how good Kenneth Farried is, he potentially is the Next Dennis Rodman.

Whenever a Morehead State game is on your cable channel, order it. You wont be disappointed watching the rebound and intensity show that Kenneth Farried is all about.
Watched Kenneth Farried play today, am I the only one to think this guy has amazing potential?