Where do you rank Bret" Hitman " Hart in the Wrestling All time Lists?

[Lebron23]

http://potsquared.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/bret_hart.jpg

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/667/667878/bret-hart-the-hitman-returns-20051117030418779-000.jpg

He's the greatest technical Wrestler in WWE History.

No disrespect to Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, and Dean Malenko.

Hart was very underrated on the microphone, but when he became a "Heel (Bad Guy" he had plenty of memorable promos againts DX.

Bret coined the word Degenerate because he hated Shawn Michaels in Real Life, and he was feuding with Michaels, Chyna and HHH in late 1996, and 1997.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhd9gLRGzdc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WilVYilItb0


Favorite Bret Hart Matches


Bret Hart vs. Stonecold Steve Austin (1997 Wrestlemania)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0Wpeb9lFQ ( Austin became a Superstar after this match.


Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart ( 1994 Wrestlemania)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A216xpgIQ_k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d8XhzMDAeQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2z2m2AKBmM&feature=related


Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog (Survivor Series 1992)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2KLXjmcQvE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX1Qsa038n8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxIMt6VLNtM&feature=related

Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (Iron Man Match)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE13jiLVuKs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki9JHSNfhT0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgIN-FKNJaM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDmFn0mScDA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDWQhKIILk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mETYG1F7rKI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkAsMOQW0c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMp2MnA9rKs&feature=related

Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnlkt1JJktw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTnZJbvWaUI&feature=related


Bret Hart vs. Chris Benoit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvKjZzUAS2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4lvqjjqkxI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kheP_isjzKE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpjSNFh5JIA

Bret Hart vs. The Undertaker (Summerslam)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqVW6UaEbZs


Bret Hart vs. 123 Kid (Raw)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pT1-H6GeeI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY0XJETxKgg

Bret Hart vs. Hakushi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQCh_ohGcYE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxc1D9IirTU

"He really is the best their is, the best there was, and the best their will be".

The Closest thing to a Prime Bret Hart is Kurt Angle.

[Knicks101]

Top 5

[bret tha ripper]

top 5 maybe top 10 easy

[pete's montreux]

definitely top gay

[Lebron23]

Top 5


Yeah

WWF and WCW had plenty of good technical wrestlers in the 1990's, but right now John Cena is ruining professional wrestling because he only has 3-5 moves.

[Knicks101]

Yeah

WWF and WCW had plenty of good technical wrestlers in the 1990's, but right now John Cena is ruining professional wrestling because he only has 3-5 moves.

He's second only to Benoit when it comes to technical wrestling.

[Styles p]

was my fave used to have a pair of his glasses.

[Brujesino]

#1 easily IMO

[shadow]

Yeah

WWF and WCW had plenty of good technical wrestlers in the 1990's, but right now John Cena is ruining professional wrestling because he only has 3-5 moves.

yah but guys like that always seem to appeal to people. Hogan, Warrior, Goldberg, all of them were insanely popular and didn't really show they knew much about actual wrestling. Often the stories tend to be more compelling than the actual event.

Going back to Bret, that guy is easily amongst the best and like Lebron23 said his mic skills really shone when he started playing the Heel. Before that, as popular as he was, he was kind of a bland character carried more by his matches than his mic-work. His match vs the Bulldog, summer slam 92' is one of my all time faves. Then there were the matches with Stonecold, vs Shawn Michaels, the guy's career is filled with epic battles.

[goldenryan]

he's #1 imo. if you take the time to watch his match with owen you will notice neither of them make any flaws during the entire match. imagine a nba player or a player of any sport for that matter being perfect for 20 minutes.
yeah wrestling is fake, but bret hart was a real pro wrestler.

[Lebron23]

he's #1 imo. if you take the time to watch his match with owen you will notice neither of them make any flaws during the entire match. imagine a nba player or a player of any sport for that matter being perfect for 20 minutes.
yeah wrestling is fake, but bret hart was a real pro wrestler.


That's why he's called as the Excellence of Execution.

[White Chocolate]

Top 5 easy. He's had quite a few great matches that get little credit. For example:


-Owen Hart(Wrestlemania 10)
-Owen Hart(Summerslam 1994)
-123 Kid(Raw 7/11/94)
-Shawn Michaels(Survivor Series 1992)
-British Bulldog(Summerslam 1992)

[Maniak]

he's #1 imo. if you take the time to watch his match with owen you will notice neither of them make any flaws during the entire match. imagine a nba player or a player of any sport for that matter being perfect for 20 minutes.
yeah wrestling is fake, but bret hart was a real pro wrestler.
No, the Rock is the best, followed by Stone Cold...

Although I think Hart is top 5.

[White Chocolate]

No, the Rock is the best, followed by Stone Cold...

Although I think Hart is top 5.


I personally would rank them: Rock, Hogan, HBK, Taker, Bret.

[Maniak]

I personally would rank them: Rock, Hogan, HBK, Taker, Bret.
Hogan is overrated. The 3 move wonder.

I think its more like.

Rock
Austin
Taker
Hart
Hogan

[JustinJDW]

I'd say somewhere around 4-7. He certainly isn't the "Best There Is, Best There Was and Best There Ever Will Be". In my personal opinion, Shawn Michaels is way better.

[White Chocolate]

Hogan is overrated. The 3 move wonder.

I think its more like.

Rock
Austin
Taker
Hart
Hogan


Agreed, but the man is an icon. His in-ring skills were limited, but the man had more charisma than Bill Clinton.

[Knicks101]

Hogan is overrated. The 3 move wonder.

I think its more like.

Rock
Austin
Taker
Hart
Hogan

Hogan sucked in the ring but in terms of marketability and charisma he's probably number one.

[White Chocolate]

In my personal opinion, Shawn Michaels is way better.


I agree that Shawn was better, but they are very close. Bret has the slight edge in technical ability, but his mic skills are way underrated. Shawn has him by a good margin there, but many people knock on Bret in this area and he was still decent.

[Richie2k6]

I think you guys are forgetting about someone. Your favorite wrestler's favorite wrestler:

http://www-ckhs.cksd.wednet.edu/STAFF/Ward/Track/Ric_Flair_02.jpg

[Maniak]

Yeah, I think Flair is about sixth or seventh. then of course there is Triple H and Shawn Michaels.

[Lebron23]

I think you guys are forgetting about someone. Your favorite wrestler's favorite wrestler:

http://www-ckhs.cksd.wednet.edu/STAFF/Ward/Track/Ric_Flair_02.jpg

Late 1980's and 1990's Flair was a bad @$$.

I watched some of his classic matches on youtube.

[D-Rose]

The actual list based on wrestling ability should be:

1. Ric Flair
2. Bret Hart
3. HBK
4. Randy Savage
5. Chris Jericho
6. Ricky Steamboat
7. Kurt Angle
8. Undertaker
9. Stone Cold
10. Chris Benoit
11. Jushin Liger
12.Tiger Mask 1
13.Tiger Mask 2
14. Dynamite Kid
15. The Rock

Honorable Mention:
Kenta Kobashi, Mr. Perfect, Inoki, Pillman, Eddie Guerrero, Terry Funk, Hogan(:sleeping), Foley,Owen Hart, Arn Anderson)

[Knicks101]

The actual list based on wrestling ability should be:

1. Ric Flair
2. Bret Hart
3. HBK
4. Randy Savage
5. Chris Jericho
6. Ricky Steamboat
7. Kurt Angle
8. Undertaker
9. Stone Cold
10. Chris Benoit
11. Jushin Liger
12.Tiger Mask 1
13.Tiger Mask 2
14. Dynamite Kid
15. The Rock

Honorable Mention:
Kenta Kobashi, Mr. Perfect, Inoki, Pillman, Eddie Guerrero, Terry Funk, Hogan(:sleeping), Foley,Owen Hart, Arn Anderson)

Chris Benoit at 10? GTFO. You don't have to shit on his legacy because of what he did. He's easily the best mat worker of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP6s7eWgx9s
Chris Benoit vs William Regal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnq68lcvc20
Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle Royal Rumble 2003

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4j2felMDSk&feature=related
Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle Greatest Cage Match of all Time

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

I could've made a few hundred bucks selling his DVD, but I kept it. He's that ****ing amazing.

[D-Rose]

Chris Benoit at 10? GTFO. You don't have to shit on his legacy because of what he did. He's easily the best mat worker of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP6s7eWgx9s
Chris Benoit vs William Regal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnq68lcvc20
Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle Royal Rumble 2003

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4j2felMDSk&feature=related
Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle Greatest Cage Match of all Time

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

I could've made a few hundred bucks selling his DVD, but I kept it. He's that ****ing amazing.
You talk about 10 like it's a bad thing? Top 10 GOAT wrestler? That's damn high. The guys in front of him have good cases.

[Knicks101]

You talk about 10 like it's a bad thing? Top 10 GOAT wrestler? That's damn high. The guys in front of him have good cases.

It is a bad thing. That's like putting Jordan at #10 and saying that it is still high. HBK, Chris Jericho and the Undertaker have no case. They're all great wrestlers and have a nice catalogue of matches but they aren't the in ring performers that Benoit was. If we're talking about overall talent, meaning wrestling ability,charisma and mic skills then that list would be okay. You said based on wrestling ability. When it comes to wrestling ability Benoit is at least in the top 5.

[D-Rose]

It is a bad thing. That's like putting Jordan at #10 and saying that it is still high. HBK, Chris Jericho and the Undertaker have no case. They're all great wrestlers and have a nice catalogue of matches but they aren't the in ring performers that Benoit was. If we're talking about overall talent, meaning wrestling ability,charisma and mic skills then that list would be okay. You said based on wrestling ability. When it comes to wrestling ability Benoit is at least in the top 5.
Taker I can see but HBK and Jericho are on Benoit's level, just as good mat wrestlers and high flyers.

[PistolPete]

As a wrestling entertainer, he's probably in the Top 10. As a wrestler in the technical aspect of wrestling, probably Top 5.

[goldenryan]

i notice some people posted mr. perfect (curt hennig) in their top 10. i remember in the late 90's my dad's friend took me see wcw nitro at the palace and after the show we saw some wrestlers at the local 7-11 and curt tried to pick a fight with my dad's friend :oldlol: great wrestler, but man was that guy a jerk.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

my all time favorite feud is shawn michaels vs. bret hart. the match they had before bret hart jumped ship to wcw prolly ranks #1 on my list. bret was my fav ever since he was with the original hart foundation, but when i found out he was leaving wwe i despised him. i cant even watch wrestling now fyi. and when we talk about technical wrestling, whatever...gotta mention dean melenko.

[Rameek]

The actual list based on wrestling ability should be:

1. Ric Flair
2. Bret Hart
3. HBK
4. Randy Savage
5. Chris Jericho
6. Ricky Steamboat
7. Kurt Angle
8. Undertaker
9. Stone Cold
10. Chris Benoit
11. Jushin Liger
12.Tiger Mask 1
13.Tiger Mask 2
14. Dynamite Kid
15. The Rock

Honorable Mention:
Kenta Kobashi, Mr. Perfect, Inoki, Pillman, Eddie Guerrero, Terry Funk, Hogan(:sleeping), Foley,Owen Hart, Arn Anderson)
Although I dont agree with your list at least you mentioned wrestlers before the 90's...
To accurately give a thread title would be wrestlers kids love from the 90's till present....

These names are from my era but if we did a search i guarantee most of these guys would be top 20 in ALL TIME LIST!

Bruno Sammartino, Buddy Rogers, Bob Backlund, Bret Hart, Mil Mascaras, Terry Funk, Dusty Rhodes, Rick Flair, Rikidozan, Giant, Hogan



/thread

[The GM]

Brett is easily top 10 w. the likes of Hogan (who is #1), Ric Flair, Stone Cold, HBK, The Undertaker, The Rock, Benoit, HHH.

Honestly though a better question to ask would be where would you rank RVD (Rob Van Dam) all time? cause he has to be one of the most overlooked and underrated wrestlers easy because ECW never hit primetime.

[Jackass18]

Hogan is overrated. The 3 move wonder.

I think its more like.

Rock
Austin
Taker
Hart
Hogan

Rock, Austin, Taker, and Hogan all sucked at wrestling.

[Jackass18]

Brett is easily top 10 w. the likes of Hogan (who is #1), Ric Flair, Stone Cold, HBK, The Undertaker, The Rock, Benoit, HHH.

Honestly though a better question to ask would be where would you rank RVD (Rob Van Dam) all time? cause he has to be one of the most overlooked and underrated wrestlers easy because ECW never hit primetime.

RVD is overrated as hell. How many people did that sloppy ass retard injure?

[Knicks101]

Rock, Austin, Taker, and Hogan all sucked at wrestling.

Austin was an amazing wrestler before he got hit with injuries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfq5ONhiBGw

Even after his injuries he put on great matches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjt0JufQf8Q

Taker is probably the best big man in wrestling history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OadK3qXBarQ

The Rock is also an under-appreciated ring, he gets shat on for no real reason. He wasn't bad his mic skills just overshadow his ring ability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpl9oK9nvvg

You're right about Hogan, but everybody knows that. You're completely off with everyone else though.

Also gtfo if you don't like this match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tucq-xNtCkM

[TruthKGRay3412]

I used to love WWF and early WWE..it has turned to absolute sh!t these days.

I'd rank Bret somewhere between 1-3.

1.The Rock
2.Bret Hart
3.Steve Austin

[IInvented]

The Undertaker is the GOAT!!

[IInvented]

Rock, Austin, Taker, and Hogan all sucked at wrestling.
Your opinion means nothing.

[Maniak]

Your opinion means nothing.
:oldlol: And yours does?

And Jackass, those are the best wrestlers. Meaning best overall. Which includes how they sell stuff, marketability, every single little thing about wrestling overall. Those are the top 5. Im not talking just skillset or whatever, cause frankly, its fake, so I dont give a flying ****ing duck about that.

[PistolPete]

Who put down that The Undertaker had great wrestling ability?? The guy's been a gimmick since he came into the WWF/E. A few slams here and there, but he should not be on the top of anyone's list when it comes to wrestling abilities. Top gimmick? Yes. Technical wrestler? Not even close.

[Knicks101]

Who put down that The Undertaker had great wrestling ability?? The guy's been a gimmick since he came into the WWF/E. A few slams here and there, but he should not be on the top of anyone's list when it comes to wrestling abilities. Top gimmick? Yes. Technical wrestler? Not even close.

Just because he isn't a technical wrestler doesn't mean that he can't wrestle. Name a big man with better manuverabilty and has put on better matches than Taker.

Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels Hell in a Cell
Undertaker vs Triple H Wrestlemania 17
Undertaker vs Kurt Angle Smackdown
Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar Hell in a Cell

There are many many more. I'm not even a Taker fan but he's the best big man to ever step into a wrestling ring. You don't have to be 5'10 to have great in-ring ability.

[shadow]

if I recall most of the undertakers matches followed the exact same formula, and rarely lasted a decent amount of minutes. He doesn't even have too many memorable feuds or story lines. Did he have some great matches, sure here and there but he is not a GOAT candidate.

[Knicks101]

if I recall most of the undertakers matches followed the exact same formula, and rarely lasted a decent amount of minutes. He doesn't even have too many memorable feuds or story lines. Did he have some great matches, sure here and there but he is not a GOAT candidate.

Shawn Michaels
Kane
Mankind
Brock Lesnar
Stone Cold
Edge

None of those feuds are memorable? You clearly don't know what you're talking about if you think that Taker isn't a GOAT candidate. He's been relevant for nearly 20 years. That alone puts him on the list. I'd love to see your list of the Top 10 wrestlers of all time.

[L.Kizzle]

he's #1 imo. if you take the time to watch his match with owen you will notice neither of them make any flaws during the entire match. imagine a nba player or a player of any sport for that matter being perfect for 20 minutes.
yeah wrestling is fake, but bret hart was a real pro wrestler.
Didn't Owen injury Stone Cold??

[Knicks101]

Didn't Owen injury Stone Cold??

Yeah he did, Bret never injured anyone is his career though.

[White Chocolate]

Didn't Owen injury Stone Cold??


And Dan Severn.

[Hotlantadude81]

overrated. WWF was failing while he was the champion. He was my favorite when I watched wrestling, but looking back on it... He just wasn't the overall performer than Shawn was. Owen was a more versatile performer, but he didn't have any charisma hardly.

[White Chocolate]

overrated. WWF was failing while he was the champion.


WWF was failing when they made f*ckin Diesel champ, and he was champ for a whole year.

[bdreason]

I stopped ranking Pro Wrestlers in the early 90's when I realized it's all staged.

A Pro Wrestler is only as good as the script written for him.

[PistolPete]

Just because he isn't a technical wrestler doesn't mean that he can't wrestle. Name a big man with better manuverabilty and has put on better matches than Taker.

Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels Hell in a Cell
Undertaker vs Triple H Wrestlemania 17
Undertaker vs Kurt Angle Smackdown
Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar Hell in a Cell

There are many many more. I'm not even a Taker fan but he's the best big man to ever step into a wrestling ring. You don't have to be 5'10 to have great in-ring ability.

Kevin Nash, Big Show, Scott Hall, Kane. All around the same size and at least some speck of technical ability to them. I'm not dissing the Undertaker's rep, the man has a strong work ethic, but The Undertaker as a wrestler retired years and years ago. Now all we have is a couple of chokeslams here and there. He's all gimmick now.

[goldenryan]

Didn't Owen injury Stone Cold??
i said he was perfect in that match. but in other matches mistakes happen. goldberg's kick ended bret's career.

[MeloMike]

If we're talking strictly technical wrestling, I'd put him at the top, or 1-2 with Benoit.

If we're talking all around as a kayfabe wrestler, I'd say he's definitely top 10, maybe top 5. I don't know much about the older older wrestlers before the Hogan/Warrior era, but the only ones I'd put over him are Stone Cold, The Rock and Hogan. Taker and Michaels are right there with him.

[MarloStanfield]

I stopped ranking Pro Wrestlers in the early 90's when I realized it's all staged.

A Pro Wrestler is only as good as the script written for him.
have u seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_stFc08vWM

[Jackass18]

Just because he isn't a technical wrestler doesn't mean that he can't wrestle. Name a big man with better manuverabilty and has put on better matches than Taker.

Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels Hell in a Cell
Undertaker vs Triple H Wrestlemania 17
Undertaker vs Kurt Angle Smackdown
Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar Hell in a Cell

There are many many more. I'm not even a Taker fan but he's the best big man to ever step into a wrestling ring. You don't have to be 5'10 to have great in-ring ability.

Taker wasn't that good. He no-sold pretty much everything. It's been a while since I've watched wrestling, but off the top of my head, Vader and Bruiser Brody were big man who were much better than Taker.

HBK is another overrated wrestler. I'm not sure why his gay gimmick went over so well.

[Knicks101]

Kevin Nash, Big Show, Scott Hall, Kane. All around the same size and at least some speck of technical ability to them. I'm not dissing the Undertaker's rep, the man has a strong work ethic, but The Undertaker as a wrestler retired years and years ago. Now all we have is a couple of chokeslams here and there. He's all gimmick now.

I laughed. Please show me a good Big Show match. Kane is decent but nowhere near the level of Taker. Just because he can do a clothesline from the top rope doesn't make him a better in ring performer. Kevin Nash could put a match on when he was young so I'd give you that one. Scott Hall was pretty good too, but the Undertaker was better.

The Undertaker can still wrestle. Watch his match with Edge at Wrestlemania 24 or his match with HBK at Wrestlemania 25 and tell me if you feel the same way.

[Knicks101]

Taker wasn't that good. He no-sold pretty much everything. It's been a while since I've watched wrestling, but off the top of my head, Vader and Bruiser Brody were big man who were much better than Taker.

HBK is another overrated wrestler. I'm not sure why his gay gimmick went over so well.

That's his gimmick, not selling moves.

Lol @ HBK being overrated. You really don't know what you're talking about.

[goldenryan]

I stopped ranking Pro Wrestlers in the early 90's when I realized it's all staged.

A Pro Wrestler is only as good as the script written for him.

not really, it's all about selling your gimmick to the fans, the fans don't always buy everything. the rock was a heel but his mic skills made him so likeable he became a huge star after that. ric flair and eddie guerrero were heels through out most of their years but their bad guy gimmick made them popular later on.

[L.Kizzle]

No love for Bobby Duncam Jr. or Perry Saturn or Booker T or Dean Malenko??

[goldenryan]

Taker wasn't that good. He no-sold pretty much everything. It's been a while since I've watched wrestling, but off the top of my head, Vader and Bruiser Brody were big man who were much better than Taker.

HBK is another overrated wrestler. I'm not sure why his gay gimmick went over so well.

i'm not a big HBK fan, but he's great wrestler and has great mic skills top 10 all-time in my book.
macho man is another legend, people who never even watched wrestling imitate his voice. and he's a cool story bro, pic.

[Jackass18]

That's his gimmick, not selling moves.

Lol @ HBK being overrated. You really don't know what you're talking about.

I use to follow the sh!t hardcore, and post with people who had a sh!tload of knowledge about the stuff. If you think Taker was that great, then you are the one who doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. As for HBK, you can laugh at me, but I'm not the one who was all into his gay persona and overrated wrestling matches.

[Knicks101]

I use to follow the sh!t hardcore, and post with people who had a sh!tload of knowledge about the stuff. If you think Taker was that great, then you are the one who doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. As for HBK, you can laugh at me, but I'm not the one who was all into his gay persona and overrated wrestling matches.

Any real American wrestling fan will tell you that Taker is Top 10 all time. Are you seriously trying to tell me that the IWC disagrees?:roll:

Feel free to post your Top 10. I'd really like to know.

[Jackass18]

It's been a while, so I'm probably forgetting some:

Ric Flair
Toshiaki Kawada
Mitsuharu Misawa
Jumbo Tsuruta
Kenta Kobashi
Jushin Thunder Liger
Ricky Steamboat
Bret Hart
Lou Thesz
Antonio Inoki

HMs:
Chris Benoit
Eddie Guerrero
Rey Mysterio, Jr
Dynamite Kid
Tiger Mask
Buddy Rogers
The Funks (Dory and Terry)
Hulk Hogan (for being apart of 2 of the biggest things in wrestling history: Hulkamania and the NWO)
Austin and Rock (for being huge draws)

It's all a matter of opinion. I never liked HBK's mic work. I didn't care for The Rock as a wrestler at all, but I actually like him as an actor. I never really cared for SCSA all that much, and that "What? What? What?" was just annoying as hell.

[Knicks101]

It's been a while, so I'm probably forgetting some:

Ric Flair
Toshiaki Kawada
Mitsuharu Misawa
Jumbo Tsuruta
Kenta Kobashi
Jushin Thunder Liger
Ricky Steamboat
Bret Hart
Lou Thesz
Antonio Inoki

HMs:
Chris Benoit
Eddie Guerrero
Rey Mysterio, Jr
Dynamite Kid
Tiger Mask
Buddy Rogers
The Funks (Dory and Terry)
Hulk Hogan (for being apart of 2 of the biggest things in wrestling history: Hulkamania and the NWO)
Austin and Rock (for being huge draws)

It's all a matter of opinion. I never liked HBK's mic work. I didn't care for The Rock as a wrestler at all, but I actually like him as an actor. I never really cared for SCSA all that much, and that "What? What? What?" was just annoying as hell.

Okay, see there was a misunderstanding. You're list consists of wrestlers with a lot of skill. Yes, all of those wrestlers are better in the ring than Taker. If we're talking about marketability, showmanship, mic skills, overall recognizability, drawing power etc your list would be very different, I'm assuming. Taker isn't a Top 10 wrestler when it comes to pure wrestling skill, but when you take all of these factors into account he is arguably in the Top 5.

[Knicks101]

^Give us a list please^

[Knicks101]

1. Ric Flair
2. Lou Thesz
3. Hulk Hogan
4. Andre The Giant
5. Bruno Sammartino
6. Santo
7. Gorgeous George
8. Rikidozan
9. Antonio Inoki
10. Bret Hart

What is this list based on exactly?

[Knicks101]

Their importance to pro wrestling business.

Okay, I see. I would think that Stu Hart would be ahead of Bret, no?

[Dasher]

Top 15. He presided over one of the worst eras in WWF history. Brett was a very skilled wrestler, but like Sting, his title reigns were failures for the most part biz wise. Skill wise he is also overrated. He did not have the versatility that wrestlers like HBK, Jericho, and even The Undertaker had.

[goldenryan]

on the all-time list el santo should be in the top 10, he's bigger than elvis in mexico.

[goldenryan]

1998 souled out vs. flair
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9WSMNUjh_o

[Lebron23]

Hulk Hogan
The Rock/Stonecold
Bret Hart
Ric Flair

The Mount Rushmore of Pro Wrestling.

[ArbitraryWater]

#1 easily IMO

lol I don't even remember making this post

[L.Kizzle]

Him and his weird Al hair cut was trash.

[Nick Young]

top 25

[Ca$H]

Hulk Hogan
The Rock/Stonecold
Bret Hart
Ric Flair

The Mount Rushmore of Pro Wrestling.

The Rock, Stone Cold, Hogan, and Undertaker = Mount Rushmore

[L.Kizzle]

The Rock, Stone Cold, Hogan, and Undertaker = Mount Rushmore
Replace Taker with Ric Flair and you got it.

[Nick Young]

Replace Brett Hart with AJ Styles.

[Ca$H]

Replace Taker with Ric Flair and you got it.

That fourth spot is tricky. The first three should be unanimous. The last spot is personal preference.

[Shade8780]

Hogan
Austin
Flair

Rock
Taker
HBK

Hart
Cena
Savage

[ArbitraryWater]

dood said Cena

[L.Kizzle]

That fourth spot is tricky. The first three should be unanimous. The last spot is personal preference.
Flair being more known gives him the fourth spot.

Guys like Michaels and Taker from the pre-Attitude and post Hogan WWF are not as popular as other guys like HHH and even Kevin Nash.

[Shade8780]

dood said Cena
You're in denial nw.

[ArbitraryWater]

dood defended saying Cena

[Charlie Sheen]

dood said Cena

why is this a bad thing?

[Ca$H]

Hogan
Austin
Flair

Rock
Taker
HBK

Hart
Cena
Savage

LOL at the Rock not being in the 1st tier. :roll:

[sundizz]

Tier 1
Rock
Hogan
Stone Cold
Lesnar
Brett
Goldberg
Razor
Undertaker

Tier 2
HHH
HBK
etc...

[ThePhantomCreep]

The Rock, Stone Cold, Hogan, and Undertaker = Mount Rushmore

Rocky doesn't have the body of work to warrant a spot on Mt. Rushmore. At least Hogan (who I hate) carried two companies to ratings dominance in two separate decades. Rock was the top draw for what, a couple of years?

[Ca$H]

Rocky doesn't have the body of work to warrant a spot on Mt. Rushmore. At least Hogan (who I hate) carried two companies to ratings dominance in two separate decades. Rock was the top draw for what, a couple of years?

Yes but Wrestling was at it's peak when the Rock was the top dog. Austin was out a year due to injury and the WWE still beat WCW because of the Rock. The Rock's peak was the most dominant ever.

[ArbitraryWater]

Rocky doesn't have the body of work to warrant a spot on Mt. Rushmore. At least Hogan (who I hate) carried two companies to ratings dominance in two separate decades. Rock was the top draw for what, a couple of years?

"Body of work" give me actual ability and talent.. Rock is GOAT, this is a Fact, he cemented it with his comeback in 2011, in which he was still hilarious in. Even watered down Rock is better than anything there is tm.

[Micku]

Yes but Wrestling was at it's peak when the Rock was the top dog. Austin was out a year due to injury and the WWE still beat WCW because of the Rock. The Rock's peak was the most dominant ever.

Austin's peak was the most dominant ever since he sold the most merchandise in the short amount of time. He outsold Hogan in like 2 years or something. The Rock in his prime was up there tho. He carried the WWE while Austin was out for a year and shared top dog status with him. I feel like he is pretty much deserving to among in that tier with Austin, Hogan, and Taker. He had a lot of good matches and was just almost or equal as Austin in popularity the 1999-2001, when the WWE was at it's peak.

[Knicks101]

Mount Rushmore would be

Hogan
Flair
Vince
Rock

[Shade8780]

"Body of work" give me actual ability and talent.. Rock is GOAT, this is a Fact, he cemented it with his comeback in 2011, in which he was still hilarious in. Even watered down Rock is better than anything there is tm.
Guess Dean Ambrose is first tier already then.

[Shade8780]

Dean Malenko the GOAT according to Arb.

[L.Kizzle]

Dean Malenko the GOAT according to Arb.
Lol. Midget doing a bunch of belly to back suplex.

[Nick Young]

Austin is the better pro-wrestler. Rocky is more overally talented and has GOAT level charisma and is the better all around entertainer in terms of being good outside of wrestling too. Austin is a good actor, but Rock is clearly better cinema-wise. But just WWE, I think Austin beats him. Saleswise and drawing power wise and in terms of being more over, 3:16 definitely has Rocky beat.

Also in terms of in-ring technical ability Austin is one of the greats and far ahead of the Rock.

The Rattlesnake is the Shaq of wrestling. MDE.


I think Kurt Angle is ahead of the Rock too. Rock could control a crowd as good as anyone ever but I think Kurt is the greater TOTAL PACKAGE wrestler.

[dkmwise]

When you just say where do you rank it's completely subjective. Are you taking about charisma, stage presence, technical moves, how well they developed their character? It seems like some of the arguments are boiling down to who has done more for the sport and if that's how you're looking at it then it's Hogan #1 all by himself in his own tier, and argue who is far below him.

But as far as carrying the sport if you're gonna include both Rock and Stone Cold who were both huge for the same few year period, also have to throw in some names like Brunno Sammartino and Killer Kowalski who carried the sport for decades before we were born.

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbIGoI-yp6Q

Bret hart First Theme and Titantron.

[TheMarkMadsen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbIGoI-yp6Q

Bret hart First Theme and Titantron.

sounds like the old MK games

[Lebron23]

Bret is my Goat.

[John8204]

As a technical wrestler...maybe top ten as a draw/headliner top 30/40 ish.

Arn Anderson, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Bryan Danielson, Terry Funk, Eddie Guerrero, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Mitsuharu Misawa, Mr Perfect.

[BarberSchool]

As someone over 8 years old, with good taste, I could never fathom ranking all-time fake wrestlers lol

And this is coming from someone who likes Bronson & Gunn’s references, even when I don’t get em all.

[BigKobeFan]

Below shawn

[ArbitraryWater]

Good thread


Rock is NOT 1