Why is Chris Mullin not in the Hall of Fame?

[hawkfan]

One of the greatest players of his generation.

Chris Mullin should be in the HOF.

[Kensta]

I agree with the second statement.

[TheAnchorman]

I agree with the second statement.
You don't agree with both?

[hawkfan]

Chris Mullin had a pure jump shot.

[JG000]

He will be sooner than later.

He was on the ballot in 2007, I think.

He'll get in by 2012.

Off court issues and not having any rings slowed down the process, but he's still damn near a lock to get in.

[Kensta]

You don't agree with both?

I mean he was good, but one of the greatest of his generation? No I do not agree.

[CB4GOATPF]

I mean he was good, but one of the greatest of his generation? No I do not agree.

Till the 92-93 season Mullin was a Top 10-15 Player in the NBA

His booze problems prevented him from staying in good shape most of the time but in his prime peek he was incredible.

Kind of like Grant Hill..if he would have had 3-4 more seasons playing at that level he would have been a HOFer easy...

[hawkfan]

I think Grant Hill will get in.

Adrian Dantley got in, and that guy was a pain in the ass.

[Rake2204]

I like Chris Mullin. I do not have the access to statisitics at this time but I am curious how long his super prime came out to be. He was dropping heavy digits for a span, but how long of one? (Edit: Five consecutive years of 26ppg). I enjoyed not just his unconcious scoring touch but also the crafty way he appeared to play the game in lieu of real actual athleticism.

As much of an obsessed fan I consider myself to be of 1990's basketball, I knew of Mullin's struggles with alcoholism but I did not realize until a few months ago that Don Nelson threw him on the injured list at one point for the remainder of a season until he got help. Mullin resurfaced from AA with that buzzcut (formally a moptop) and he starting killing it on the basketball court ever since.

Multi-time All-Star, high volume scorer, absolute gunslinger, guy who let Vince drive baseline as a rookie for that two-hand double clutch reverse dunk, member of the original Dream Team. That's a recipe for the Hall of Fame and I think it's just a matter of time before it comes along.

[CB4GOATPF]

I like Chris Mullin. I do not have the access to statisitics at this time but I am curious how long his super prime came out to be. He was dropping heavy digits for a span, but how long of one? (Edit: Five consecutive years of 26ppg). I enjoyed not just his unconcious scoring touch but also the crafty way he appeared to play the game in lieu of real actual athleticism.

As much of an obsessed fan I consider myself to be of 1990's basketball, I knew of Mullin's struggles with alcoholism but I did not realize until a few months ago that Don Nelson threw him on the injured list at one point for the remainder of a season until he got help. Mullin resurfaced from AA with that buzzcut (formally a moptop) and he starting killing it on the basketball court ever since.

Multi-time All-Star, high volume scorer, absolute gunslinger, guy who let Vince drive baseline as a rookie for that two-hand double clutch reverse dunk, member of the original Dream Team. That's a recipe for the Hall of Fame and I think it's just a matter of time before it comes along.[/QUOTE]

His 1st Seasons he didn`t play over 25-29 minutes wasn`t a total starter but you could tell he was special after with amazing shooting touch, feel for the game, fundamentals, great passer and team defeneder etc

From 1987 to 1993 he was a Top 10-15 Player in the Game for atleast some stages of those seasons Top 10. His alcholism really f-ked up his career and after 1993 he wasn`t as fit as he could be (lost stamina etc) and never played the same again, become more of a solid role player playing few minutes.

IF he had 3 or 4 more seasons like these it would have been a no dout HOF.

Prime Seasons:

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1985-86 22 GSW NBA 55 30 25.3 5.2 11.3 .463 0.1 0.5 .185 3.4 3.8 .896 0.8 1.3 2.1 1.9 1.3 0.4 1.4 2.4 14.0
1986-87 23 GSW NBA 82 82 29.0 5.8 11.3 .514 0.2 0.8 .302 3.3 4.0 .825 0.5 1.7 2.2 3.2 1.2 0.4 1.9 2.6 15.1
1987-88 24 GSW NBA 60 55 33.9 7.8 15.4 .508 0.6 1.6 .351 4.0 4.5 .885 1.0 2.5 3.4 4.8 1.9 0.5 2.6 2.3 20.2
1988-89 25 GSW NBA 82 82 37.7 10.1 19.9 .509 0.3 1.2 .230 6.0 6.7 .892 1.9 4.0 5.9 5.1 2.1 0.5 3.6 2.2 26.5
1989-90 26 GSW NBA 78 78 36.3 8.7 16.3 .536 1.1 3.0 .372 6.5 7.3 .889 1.7 4.3 5.9 4.1 1.6 0.6 3.1 1.8 25.1
1990-91 27 GSW NBA 82 82 40.4 9.5 17.7 .536 0.5 1.6 .301 6.3 7.1 .884 1.7 3.7 5.4 4.0 2.1 0.8 3.0 2.1 25.7
1991-92 28 GSW NBA 81 81 41.3 10.2 19.6 .524 0.8 2.2 .366 4.3 5.2 .833 1.6 4.0 5.6 3.5 2.1 0.8 2.5 2.1 25.6
1992-93 29 GSW NBA 46 46 41.3 10.3 20.2 .510 1.3 2.9 .451 4.0 4.9 .810 0.9 4.1 5.0 3.6 1.5 0.9 3.0 1.7 25.9

1993-94....he never played the same

Play-Offs:

Season Age Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% MP PTS TRB AST
1986-87 23 GSW NBA 10 262 49 98 3 4 12 16 2 15 23 9 2 16 31 113 .500 .750 .750 26.2 11.3 1.5 2.3
1988-89 25 GSW NBA 8 341 88 163 1 8 58 67 11 47 36 14 11 32 19 235 .540 .125 .866 42.6 29.4 5.9 4.5
1990-91 27 GSW NBA 8 366 69 131 9 13 43 50 9 58 23 15 12 25 23 190 .527 .692 .860 45.8 23.8 7.3 2.9
1991-92 28 GSW NBA 4 168 27 63 4 12 13 14 3 12 12 5 2 8 8 71 .429 .333 .929 42.0 17.8 3.0 3.0
1993-94 30 GSW NBA 3 135 30 51 6 12 10 11 4 14 11 0 5 7 4 76 .588 .500 .909 45.0 25.3 4.7 3.7

[L.Kizzle]

He's in the Hall of Fame twice now ...

[D.J.]

As much as I liked Mullin growing up, he really shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. Mullin is almost identical to Don Mattingly IMO. Their numbers in their primes were certainly HOF calibur, but their primes weren't long enough.

Mullin's prime was '88-'93. He played in 60 games in '88 and 46 in '93. Putting up 25/6/4 certainly compares to the all-time best, but he didn't do it for that long. I'm really surprised he was voted in. Don't get me wrong...I'm happy for him and he certainly was a great player. That's not debatable. But you're talking a 6 year stretch(really 5 because he missed nearly half the season in '93). If he's in the HOF, so should Don Mattingly. Different sports obviously, but you get my point.

[L.Kizzle]

As much as I liked Mullin growing up, he really shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. Mullin is almost identical to Don Mattingly IMO. Their numbers in their primes were certainly HOF calibur, but their primes weren't long enough.

Mullin's prime was '88-'93. He played in 60 games in '88 and 46 in '93. Putting up 25/6/4 certainly compares to the all-time best, but he didn't do it for that long. I'm really surprised he was voted in. Don't get me wrong...I'm happy for him and he certainly was a great player. That's not debatable. But you're talking a 6 year stretch(really 5 because he missed nearly half the season in '93). If he's in the HOF, so should Don Mattingly. Different sports obviously, but you get my point.
He also had a stand out college career.

And, he was an All-NBA 1st teamer. I believe it's an over 80% chance at making the Hall with a 1st team birth.

[D.J.]

He also had a stand out college career.

And, he was an All-NBA 1st teamer. I believe it's an over 80% chance at making the Hall with a 1st team birth.


Don Mattingly was also a league MVP, runner up 1 other time, 6x All-Star, and 9x Gold Glove winner and didn't get in. Different sports I know, but even if you have a stand out college career, you should still need to have solid longevity to make the HOF. Mullin was great, but he certainly didn't have the longevity.

[L.Kizzle]

Don Mattingly was also a league MVP, runner up 1 other time, 6x All-Star, and 9x Gold Glove winner and didn't get in. Different sports I know, but even if you have a stand out college career, you should still need to have solid longevity to make the HOF. Mullin was great, but he certainly didn't have the longevity.
Maybe college career, plus NBA and Olympic medals gets him in ...

[Hammertime]

I'll leave the discussion about whether baseball can even properly be called a sport for another time, and point out that if it is a sport, its own HOF voting practices have nothing to do with the Basketball Hall of Fame.

If no other reason, Mullin should be in HOF because he was on the Dream Team. Everyone on that team should be in the Hall for that contribution to basketball globally alone.

[miles berg]

I don't consider baseball to be a sport either.

[InspiredLebowski]

Who cares? Honestly. The hoops HOF is ****ing retarded, look at the list of inductees. It doesn't exist to me as long as Slick Leonard's not in.