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Abraham Lincoln
09-26-2009, 02:52 AM
The Best Shooting Touches in NBA History Per Position.





Centers




Patrick Ewing

http://i34.tinypic.com/2zjkopy.jpg





Wilt Chamberlain

http://i33.tinypic.com/29vjepd.jpg





Mike Gminski

http://bit.ly/mhdYx




Bill Walton

http://i35.tinypic.com/1zyuh6s.jpg





Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

http://i36.tinypic.com/rti96p.jpg





Arvydas Sabonis

http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/sabonis.jpg





Jack Sikma

http://www.vanillaafro.com/images/jack-sikma-5.jpg





Mehmet Okur

http://basketball-nba.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/mehmet_okur.jpg

Abraham Lincoln
09-26-2009, 02:53 AM
Forwards




Larry Bird

http://bit.ly/28zweI





Dirk Nowitzki

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/chris_ballard/04/20/dirk.nash/T1_0419_dirk.jpg





Glen Rice

http://bit.ly/10QgQN





Rick Barry

http://i35.tinypic.com/105oeh3.jpg





Bob McAdoo

http://www.nba.com/media/clippers/history_mcadoo.jpg





Sam Perkins

http://www.ultimatenba.com/galerias/SamPerkins/SamPerkins009.jpg





Chris Mullin

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0WIkG91nZc8/SadPYsgFNuI/AAAAAAAAAcI/_3VlNRs8dCQ/s320/Chris+Mullin.jpg





Tom Heinsohn

http://angrycelticsfans.com/Heinsohnbos.jpg





Peja Stojakovic

http://nohornets.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/peja-stojakovic.jpg

Abraham Lincoln
09-26-2009, 02:53 AM
Guards




Dale Ellis

http://i34.tinypic.com/15n6akm.jpg





Jerry West

http://bit.ly/103MNb




Kobe Bryant

http://bit.ly/wj9te




Reggie Miller

http://bit.ly/ZVswS





Ray Allen

http://bit.ly/BrGv6





Michael Jordan

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1214/nba_g_mjordan_400.jpg





Hal Greer

http://bit.ly/18mTSy





Steve Nash

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/images/photos/2008/04/15/etyejglm.jpg





Mark Price

http://bit.ly/USNSW





Drazen Petrovic

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/ian_thomsen/06/05/countdown/drazen-petrovic.jpg

Pursuer
09-26-2009, 03:22 AM
I think you would agree with me to put Arvydas Sabonis on that list, 'cause I don't remember another 7'3" guy hitting three's like he did.

chitownsfinest
09-26-2009, 03:24 AM
No Jack Sikma?

AmoebaD
09-26-2009, 03:30 AM
thank you for noting rice. he was so fun to watch when he was with the hornets.

josh99
09-26-2009, 03:41 AM
I don't get it. For example isn't Okur a better shooter than Ewing?? Define a shooter please.

Se
09-26-2009, 03:43 AM
I don't get it. For example isn't Okur a better shooter than Ewing?? Define a shooter please.

I agree. This is a putrid list.

AJ2k8
09-26-2009, 03:55 AM
Read the first line of the thread: The Best Shooting Touches in NBA History Per Position.

chitownsfinest
09-26-2009, 04:00 AM
Read the first line of the thread: The Best Shooting Touches in NBA History Per Position.
Still stick with my mention of Sikma though. He had one of the best touches for a big ever and was the god father of guys like Laimbeer, Rik Smits, Okur, etc.

East_Stone_Ya
09-26-2009, 04:04 AM
I would add...

Centers
Sam Perkins


Forwards
Bob Mcadoo
Peja Stojakovic
Chris Mullin

Guards
Steve Nash

Myth
09-26-2009, 04:10 AM
Jayson Williams never misses.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photogallery/jayson-williams/1-jayson-williams-022704.jpg

chitownsfinest
09-26-2009, 04:10 AM
I would add...

Centers
Sam Perkins


Forwards
Bob Mcadoo
Peja Stojakovic
Chris Mullin

Guards
Steve Nash
Forgot about him. One of the quickest releases ever. He definitely deserves a mention.

Se
09-26-2009, 04:26 AM
Read the first line of the thread: The Best Shooting Touches in NBA History Per Position.

Define shooting touch?

Sabonis, Richmond and Okur all have great shooting touches, and more range than some players being mentioned.

sirkeelma
09-26-2009, 04:34 AM
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc242/sirkee/aSamPerkins2.jpg
Tied an NBA record by hitting 8 three-pointers without a miss.
Better shooter than Ewing.

sirkeelma
09-26-2009, 04:36 AM
Read the first line of the thread: The Best Shooting Touches in NBA History Per Position.

Nice shooting touch Mr. Rick Barry:oldlol:

josh99
09-26-2009, 06:59 AM
Read the first line of the thread: The Best Shooting Touches in NBA History Per Position.
How is shooting touch different from shooting???

AJ2k8
09-26-2009, 08:30 AM
I interpreted it as form because of the players he chose... Maybe he'll explain when he comes back in to his own thread :confusedshrug:

Edit: Having another look at it, I'm not quite sure what he's on about...

HiphopRelated
09-26-2009, 08:37 AM
I interpreted it as form because of the players he chose... Maybe he'll explain when he comes back in to his own thread :confusedshrug:

Edit: Having another look at it, I'm not quite sure what he's on about...
or maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about?


how you gonna have a centers list without Okur but have Ewing's clumsy jumpers

JG000
09-26-2009, 08:43 AM
Good list so far. I definitely agree with Price, Ray Ray, Mullin, Kobe, Drazen, Nash and Peja.

Glen Robinson had a beautiful touch from mid-range out to the 3-point line, I'd add him.

CB4GOATPF
09-26-2009, 11:06 AM
This guy should be mentioned

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/kiki0225.jpg

Only 30.3 MPG: 19.7 PPG (52.5% FG) on 17.2 FGAs PG, 36.8% 3-Point FG

*Per 36 Minutes: 23.7 PPG (52.5% FG)

Play-Offs:

Only 27.8 MPG: 16.1 PPG (51.0% FG) on 12.0 FGAs PG, 34.5% 3-Point FG

Although after the 1987-88 season he never played the same do to injuries most often. If he kept the same level as he had done from 1980-81 to 1987-88 for 3 or 4 more years till about 1991 he would have been a certain HOF kind of like the Chris Mullin case

3-Pt Field Goal Pct

1986-87 NBA .481 (1) (39/81) :bowdown:

* Also in 1989 even though he only played 29 games do to his declining injury : he wen`t 10/19: 52.6% 3-Point FG% :wtf:

Player Efficiency Rating

1982-83 NBA 21.8 (10)
1983-84 NBA 23.6 (3)

*One of the Best Players in the Early-Mid 80s

Offensive Rating

1981-82 NBA 120.0 (6)
1982-83 NBA 121.5 (2)
1983-84 NBA 122.2 (4)
1984-85 NBA 122.1 (4)
1985-86 NBA 121.6 (5)
1986-87 NBA 123.2 (4)
Career NBA 119.5 (6)
Career 119.5 (6)

As far as Mid Range Shooters...never forget about this man right here...probably the Best 1 on 1 Offensive SF Ever


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/nenjabin/NBA/SETS/07%2008%20SPA%20Chirography/AD.jpg

AJ2k8
09-26-2009, 11:30 AM
This guy should be mentioned

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/kiki0225.jpg

Only 30.3 MPG: 19.7 PPG (52.5% FG) on 17.2 FGAs PG, 36.8% 3-Point FG

*Per 36 Minutes: 23.7 PPG (52.5% FG)

Play-Offs:

Only 27.8 MPG: 16.1 PPG (51.0% FG) on 12.0 FGAs PG, 34.5% 3-Point FG

Although after the 1987-88 season he never played the same do to injuries most often. If he kept the same level as he had done from 1980-81 to 1987-88 for 3 or 4 more years till about 1991 he would have been a certain HOF kind of like the Chris Mullin case

3-Pt Field Goal Pct

1986-87 NBA .481 (1) (39/81) :bowdown:

* Also in 1989 even though he only played 29 games do to his declining injury : he wen`t 10/19: 52.6% 3-Point FG% :wtf:

Player Efficiency Rating

1982-83 NBA 21.8 (10)
1983-84 NBA 23.6 (3)

*One of the Best Players in the Early-Mid 80s

Offensive Rating

1981-82 NBA 120.0 (6)
1982-83 NBA 121.5 (2)
1983-84 NBA 122.2 (4)
1984-85 NBA 122.1 (4)
1985-86 NBA 121.6 (5)
1986-87 NBA 123.2 (4)
Career NBA 119.5 (6)
Career 119.5 (6)

As far as Mid Range Shooters...never forget about this man right here...probably the Best 1 on 1 Offensive SF Ever


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/nenjabin/NBA/SETS/07%2008%20SPA%20Chirography/AD.jpg

Why the essay? A simple "this guy" and a pic would've done fine:confusedshrug:

phoenix18
09-26-2009, 01:01 PM
This guy should be mentioned

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/kiki0225.jpg

Only 30.3 MPG: 19.7 PPG (52.5% FG) on 17.2 FGAs PG, 36.8% 3-Point FG

*Per 36 Minutes: 23.7 PPG (52.5% FG)

Play-Offs:

Only 27.8 MPG: 16.1 PPG (51.0% FG) on 12.0 FGAs PG, 34.5% 3-Point FG

Although after the 1987-88 season he never played the same do to injuries most often. If he kept the same level as he had done from 1980-81 to 1987-88 for 3 or 4 more years till about 1991 he would have been a certain HOF kind of like the Chris Mullin case

3-Pt Field Goal Pct

1986-87 NBA .481 (1) (39/81) :bowdown:

* Also in 1989 even though he only played 29 games do to his declining injury : he wen`t 10/19: 52.6% 3-Point FG% :wtf:

Player Efficiency Rating

1982-83 NBA 21.8 (10)
1983-84 NBA 23.6 (3)

*One of the Best Players in the Early-Mid 80s

Offensive Rating

1981-82 NBA 120.0 (6)
1982-83 NBA 121.5 (2)
1983-84 NBA 122.2 (4)
1984-85 NBA 122.1 (4)
1985-86 NBA 121.6 (5)
1986-87 NBA 123.2 (4)
Career NBA 119.5 (6)
Career 119.5 (6)

As far as Mid Range Shooters...never forget about this man right here...probably the Best 1 on 1 Offensive SF Ever


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/nenjabin/NBA/SETS/07%2008%20SPA%20Chirography/AD.jpg
Thank you. I was about to say where's Kiki?

magnax1
09-26-2009, 01:14 PM
Wilt had a good Jump shot? Okur and Hakeem Definitely have as good of Jumpers as Ewing. i'm rather confizzulated.

G.O.A.T
09-26-2009, 01:43 PM
Why the essay? A simple "this guy" and a pic would've done fine:confusedshrug:

No smart people actually like learning things. A pic and this guy posts are thoughtless drivel.

G.O.A.T
09-26-2009, 01:44 PM
Wilt had a good Jump shot? Okur and Hakeem Definitely have as good of Jumpers as Ewing. i'm rather confizzulated.

No way.

Ewing made a living on that jumper. Hakeem is more of a post threat and Okur is just not in the same category. He's a fringe all-star Ewing was a superstar.

magnax1
09-26-2009, 01:48 PM
No way.

Ewing made a living on that jumper. Hakeem is more of a post threat and Okur is just not in the same category. He's a fringe all-star Ewing was a superstar.
Maybe not Hakeem, but Okur is in this league because of his Jumper. He would not start, or maybe even play at all if not for the fact he can hit a 3 pointer and stretch the floor. Okur doesn't even play in the post to often. I'm not saying Okur was a better player, but there are lots of bigmen with better jumpshots than Ewing. Sam Perkins probably had a better jumpshot too.

G.O.A.T
09-26-2009, 01:52 PM
Why are Perkins and Okur better jumper shooters then Ewing if Patrick made more at a higher percentage?

Just because they could shoot the three?

magnax1
09-26-2009, 01:57 PM
Why are Perkins and Okur better jumper shooters then Ewing if Patrick made more at a higher percentage?

Just because they could shoot the three?
If you can prove he made more at a higher percentage, than yeah hes a better jumpshooter. But I don't think there is anywhere where you could find Ewings jumpshot %. Okur however, we can.
http://www.82games.com/0809/FGSORT7.HTM
He shoots a 44%, and 47% of his shots are jumpers.

triangleoffense
09-26-2009, 01:58 PM
no iverson?

G.O.A.T
09-26-2009, 02:16 PM
If you can prove he made more at a higher percentage, than yeah hes a better jumpshooter. But I don't think there is anywhere where you could find Ewings jumpshot %. Okur however, we can.
http://www.82games.com/0809/FGSORT7.HTM
He shoots a 44%, and 47% of his shots are jumpers.

I'm basing it on the fact that Ewing's primary shot was his jumper and he shot a higher percentage then Okur.

The precentage proves nothing unless the difference is staggering.

Ewing was the focal point of an offense taking almost all guarded shots, Okur is the third option.

magnax1
09-26-2009, 02:19 PM
I'm basing it on the fact that Ewing's primary shot was his jumper and he shot a higher percentage then Okur.

The precentage proves nothing unless the difference is staggering.

Ewing was the focal point of an offense taking almost all guarded shots, Okur is the third option.
Ok, I get that, but whether he is a better player or not has nothing to do with how good his jumper is. And you say the % doesn't matter, unless and its stagering, but you also say you basing his jumpshot is better on his %.

G.O.A.T
09-26-2009, 02:23 PM
Best way to sum up my points on why I believe Ewing was a better jump shooter.

1.He took more difficult shots because teams were trying to take him away first.

2. He was primarily a jump shooter like Okur and averaged more points at a higher percentage.

3. Percentages are a great barometer but don't tell the whole story. Unles Okur is like 6-8% better on jumpers I still think Ewing gets the nod.

Abraham Lincoln
09-26-2009, 02:51 PM
I don't get it. For example isn't Okur a better shooter than Ewing?? Define a shooter please.
However one chooses to define such. And Ewing be the best jump shooting center who ever lived.

Abraham Lincoln
09-26-2009, 02:51 PM
Still stick with my mention of Sikma though. He had one of the best touches for a big ever and was the god father of guys like Laimbeer, Rik Smits, Okur, etc.
Also Cliff Robinson. :cheers:

G.O.A.T
09-26-2009, 02:55 PM
How about some love for Tom Heinsohn who could hit from 20 feet and had a fantastic running hook in mid-range.

http://angrycelticsfans.com/Heinsohnbos.jpg

Abraham Lincoln
09-26-2009, 02:58 PM
How about some love for Tom Heinsohn who could hit from 20 feet and had a fantastic running hook in mid-range.

http://angrycelticsfans.com/Heinsohnbos.jpg


:cheers: