The Complete List of 2010 Free Agents

[bagelred]

Here's an ongoing complete list of Free Agents in 2010, into five groups - Top Tier, Above Average, Below Average, Bottom Tier, and Team Options. Team options list include players of significance where teams have an option to keep player and might let him go. Doesn't include all guys on rookie scale contracts. For example, Brook Lopez is a team option but obviously he'll get picked up, so didn't include him.

I tried to list guys generally where they belong on the list depending on how good they are. If a guy is in the wrong tier, let me know. Put please don't criticize the precise location on the list. It's not EXACT, just an easy way to find who's available.

(P) - Player Option
(R) - Restricted Free Agent
Italics = Unlikely to Opt Out

Let's keep this up to date and let me know if any errors/changes etc. and we'll update as season goes along. If a player from a team you know has a team option that probably or might not be executed by team, let me know and I'll add it.

Top Tier Free Agents

Timofey Mozgov - New York
Lebron James - Miami
Dwyane Wade - Miami
Chris Bosh - Miami
Joe Johnson - Atlanta
Paul Pierce - Boston
Amare Stoudemire - New York
Dirk Nowitzki - Dallas
Tracy McGrady - Detroit
Carlos Boozer - Chicago
Shaquille O'Neal - Boston
Yao Ming - Houston
Ray Allen - Boston
Allen Iverson
David Lee - Golden State
Michael Redd - Milwaukee
Rudy Gay - Memphis
Luis Scola - Houston
Raymond Felton - New York
Richard Jefferson - San Antonio
Ronnie Brewer - Chicago
Marcus Camby - Portland
John Salmons - Milwaukee
Randy Foye - Clippers
Kenyon Martin - Denver



Upper-Middle Tier

Raja Bell - Utah
Al Harrington - Denver
Joel Przybilla - Portland
Zydrunas Ilgauskas - Miami
Hakim Warrick - Phoenix
Nate Robinson - Boston
Jermaine O'Neal - Boston
Roger Mason - New York
Mike Miller- Miami
Udonis Haslem - Miami
T.J. Ford - Indiana
Brendon Haywood - Dallas
Rafer Alston
Steve Blake - Lakers
Travis Outlaw - New Jersey
Kelenna Azubuikie - traded to New York
Brad Miller - Houston
J.J. Redick - Orlando
Tyrus Thomas - Charlotte
Grant Hill - Phoenix
Chris Duhon - Orlando
Anthony Carter - Denver
Kurt Thomas - Chicago
Luke Ridnour - Minnesota
Erik Dampier
Drew Gooden - Milwaukee
Kyle Korver- Chicago
Derek Fisher - Lakers
Michael Finley
Eddie House - Miami
Kyle Lowry - Houston
Brian Cook - Clippers
Larry Hughes
Matt Bonner - San Antonio
DeShawn Stevenson - Dallas
Quentin Richardson - Orlando
Channing Frye - Phoenix
Vladimir Radmonovic - Golden State
Chris Douglas-Roberts - Milwaukee
Joe Smith - New Jersey
Tony Allen - Memphis
Matt Barnes - Lakers
Jordan Farmar - New Jersey


Lower-Middle Tier

Shannon Brown - Lakers
Jason Kapono - Philadelphia
Amir Johnson - Toronto
Rasual Butler - Clippers
Ben Wallace - Detroit
Darko Milicic - Minnesota
Kwame Brown - Charlotte
Chris Wilcox - Detroit
Eddy Curry - New York
Tim Thomas - Dallas
Will Bynum - Detroit
Shaun Livingston - Charlotte
Mike James
Adam Morrison - Washington
Brian Skinner
Sergio Rodriguez (R)
Earl Watson - Utah
Etan Thomas
Steven Hunter
Francisco Elson - Utah
Darius Songalia - Philadelphia
Joe Alexander - New Orleans
Sasha Pavlovic
Antonio Daniels
Bobby Simmons
Josh Boone (R)
Adonal Foyle
Jared Jeffries - Houston
Renaldo Balkman - Denver
Antoine Wright - Dallas
C.J. Watson - Chicago
Anthony Morrow - New Jersey
Craig Smith - Clippers
Quinton Ross - New Jersey
Hilton Armstrong - Washington
Theo Ratliff - Lakers
Anthony Johnson
Rasho Nesterovic
Flip Murray
Travis Diener


Bottom Tier Free Agents

Brian Scalibriane - Chicago
Ike Diogu
Jamaal Tinsley
Nazr Mohammed - Charlotte
Damien Wilkins
Devean George
Devin Brown
Sean Marks
Tony Battie - Philadelphia
James Singleton
Sean Williams
Ricky Davis
Shawne Williams (R)
Kris Humphries - New Jersey
Sean May
Oleksiy Pecherov
Desmond Mason
DJ Mbenga
Josh Powell - Atlanta
Steve Novak
Mardy Collins (R)
Trenton Hassell
Mikki Moore
Speedy Claxton
Juwan Howard - Miami
Brian Cardinal
Dominic McGuire - Charlotte
Jason Williams - Orlando
Joel Anthony - Miami
Yakhouba Diawara
Chris Quinn - Philadelphia
Jamaal Magloire - Miami
Dorrell Wright - Golden State
Dontell Jefferson
Jason Collins - Atlanta
Fabricio Oberto
Janerro Pargo
Patrick O'Bryant
Mark Blount
Kenny Thomas
Shelden Williams - Denver
Primoz Brezec
Rodney Carney - Golden State
Jerome James
Aaron Gray - New Orleans
Jawad Williams - Cleveland
Curtis Jerrells
Walter Sharpe
Randolph Morris
Malik Allen - Orlando
Johan Petro - New Jersey
James White
Kevin Ollie
Kryllo Fesenko
Louis Amundson - Golden State
Pops Mensa_Bonsu - New Orleans
Marcus Williams
Marcus Haislip


Team Options

Josh Howard - Washington
Keyon Dooling - Milwaukee
Eduardo Najera - Charlotte
Yi Jianlian - Washington
Willie Green - New Orleans
Delonte West - Boston
Carlos Delfino - Milwaukee
Carl Landry - Sacramento
Chuck Hayes - Houston

[QuebecBaller]

damn... Almost all the players are free agent

[bagelred]

damn... Almost all the players are free agent

It's crazy. There's about 160 or so players on the list. If there are about 420 players in the league (14*30) than that means about 38% of players could be FA's next year.

[QuebecBaller]

I wish some of them will agreed to sign with the knicks :D

[robertshaw_1]

Lebron James (P)
Dwyane Wade (P)
Chris Bosh (P)
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce (P)
Amare Stoudemire (P)
Dirk Nowitzki (P)
Manu Ginobli
Tracy McGrady
Carlos Boozer
Shaquille O'Neal
Yao Ming (P)
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

2010 NY Knicks:

C Amare Stoudemire
PF Dirk Nowitzki
SF Lebron James
SG Manu Ginobli
PG Dwyane Wade

:lol

[G.O.A.T]

Would be nice to see this stickied and updated as player sign extensions and teams\players pick up options leading up to July 1st 2010.

[AlThornton]

Greatest FA class ever.

[Killbot]

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[Lancerballer21]

I would be willing to bet that around half of those players will resign or get extensions with their current teams. But even then there will still be lots of extremely good talent for teams to pick up.

[Lord Leoshes]

Does someone have a list of which teams will have the most cap for 2010? :confusedshrug:

[magnax1]

Wtf is tyrus thomas doing at top teir? I'd take basically everyone on upper middle teir over him.

[bagelred]

Does someone have a list of which teams will have the most cap for 2010? :confusedshrug:

You can put that list together, but it would have to be an estimate. Because of all the player options, team options, restricted FA's, qualifying offers, etc......

[beasted86]

Does someone have a list of which teams will have the most cap for 2010? :confusedshrug:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142532


1. Heat - No guaranteed. +Beasley,Cook,Chalmers = $7.9M
2. Nets - $17.8M guaranteed. +Lopez,Lee,Jianlian = $25.6M
3. Knicks - $21.9M guaranteed. +Chandler,Gallinari = $27.3M
4. T'Wolves - $26.3M guaranteed. +Love = $29.9M
5. Thunder - $20.2M guaranteed. +Durant,Westbrook,Green = $34.7M
5. Bulls - $29M guaranteed. +Rose,Noah= $37.6M
6. Rockets - $36.2M guaranteed. +Brooks= $38.2M
7. Clippers - $33.2M guaranteed. +Gordon,Thornton = $39.0M
8. Kings - $35.3 guaranteed. +Hawes,Thompson = 40.3M

[Apocalyptic0n3]

I've read that Nowitzki plans to opt out and sign for as little as he can without the NBAPA getting upset with him to try and allow the Mavs to sign another player.

Never was a fan of Nowitzki personally, but if this is true... this makes me like and respect him a lot. A very selfless thing to do for his team.

[D-Rose]

I've read that Nowitzki plans to opt out and sign for as little as he can without the NBAPA getting upset with him to try and allow the Mavs to sign another player.

Never was a fan of Nowitzki personally, but if this is true... this makes me like and respect him a lot. A very selfless thing to do for his team.
Link? :eek:

[GeneWilderSTL]

niiice list summer 2010 should be an interesting one for the NBA

[Apocalyptic0n3]

Link? :eek:

It was on Yahoo!, likely in The Ball Don't Lie. My brother is the biggest Nowitzki fan in the world (which is weird because we live just outside of Detroit) and he cites this as a reason for that quite often.

I don't feel like looking for the story right now (It's midnight, been up since 4, got class at 10), but you can give it a try in TBDL. I'll try to remember to search for it again tomorrow. I want to say it was around draft time that i read it.

[GeneWilderSTL]

a few of those guys are gone in trades before the season is out. that list is going to whittle down by the time summer hits.

I know for sure that redd is gone by the tradeline.

[nbastatus]

Top Tier Free Agents

Lebron James (P)
Dwyane Wade (P)
Chris Bosh (P)
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce (P)
Amare Stoudemire (P)
Dirk Nowitzki (P)
Manu Ginobli
Tracy McGrady
Carlos Boozer
Shaquille O'Neal
Yao Ming (P)
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson
Rajon Rondo (R)
LaMarcus Aldridge (R)
David Lee
Richard Jefferson (P)
John Salmons (P)
Michael Redd (P)
Rudy Gay (R)
Luis Scola
Raymond Felton
Ronnie Brewer (R)
Marcus Camby
Randy Foye (R)
Kenyon Martin (P)


Lakers please.:cry: :cry: :cry:

[WuTangWizard]

I've read that Nowitzki plans to opt out and sign for as little as he can without the NBAPA getting upset with him to try and allow the Mavs to sign another player.

Never was a fan of Nowitzki personally, but if this is true... this makes me like and respect him a lot. A very selfless thing to do for his team.
Gilbert Arenas once said that :oldlol:

[bagelred]

Dirk accepting less money won't help at all. Don't you guys know how NBA cap works?

Mavs are over cap whether Dirk accepts less or not. So Mavs only have MLE to work with regardless of what Dirk does.

[moaz]

Link? :eek:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/122308dnspodirksalary.73fb020.html

Some, like Nowitzki, can exercise an option they have after the 2009-10 season. In Nowitzki's case, he can earn $21.5 million in the 2010-11 season. Or he can opt out and be an unrestricted free agent. A more appealing option for the Mavericks is to extend Nowitzki's contract and reduce the 2010-11 salary considerably, but add many years onto the deal to help make it fair to Nowitzki.

With that sort of deal, the Mavericks could get well under the salary cap and be a major player in the 2010 free-agent frenzy.


@ bagelred
I think they would find a solution if he really want to do it.

[bagelred]

@ bagelred
I think they would find a solution if he really want to do it.

Let's look at the guaranteed contracts:

Jason Terry $10.4 million
Jason Kidd $8.5 million
Shawn Marion $7.2 million
Matt Carroll $4.3 million
Kris Humphries $3.2 million
Jose Juan Barrea $1.8 million
Roddy BeouBois $1.2 million
Greg Buckner $1.0 million

That's $37.6 million right there.

Let's say Dirk Nowitski gives up his $22 million to accept what? Let's say $12 million a year, a ridiculously low number for Dirk.

That's about $50 million in Mavericks salary.

The salary cap will be about $52 million. That doesn't even include Josh Howard who Mavericks have an option on.



Sorry, the facts say that article doesn't know what their talking about.

[KB2009Champ]

Lakers please.:cry: :cry: :cry:


As a Laker fan why on earth would you want Ray Allen on the Lakers? Not only do he and kobe not get along, they also play the same position. You think Allen would be fine with coming off the bench behind Kobe?

Me thinks not :oldlol:


I would never want to see Ray Allen in the purple and gold.

Lmao at picking Ray Allen, of all those FAs to be on the Lakers. Nevermind the fact that the Lakers don't even have the $$ he'd want.

[Pharcyde]

Bulls: Kirk will ask for a trade at the deadline to be a starter somewhere (Portland?), we then trade him for expiring contracts.
Then sign Anthony Morrow for the perfect fit next to Rose, then sign Chris Bosh to a max.
We then bring Asik in for a back up, because Brad Miller will be over paid somewhere like the Mavericks for desperation.
Then we sign a back up PG like Steve Blake.
The last step is choosing between trading Deng or resigning Salmons.

Line up:
Derrick Rose
Anthony Morrow
Deng/Salmons
Chris Bosh
Joakim Noah

Bench:
Steve Blake
John Salmons or a SG from the draft
James Johnson
James Johnson/Taj Gibson
Omer Asik

My life would be complete.

[chains5000]

That article about Dirk and Dallas salaries was posted nearly a year ago.
Their contract situation has changed (as bagelred explains).

[quasimoto]

I've read that Nowitzki plans to opt out and sign for as little as he can without the NBAPA getting upset with him to try and allow the Mavs to sign another player.

Never was a fan of Nowitzki personally, but if this is true... this makes me like and respect him a lot. A very selfless thing to do for his team.
What does that mean?

[BFRESH44]

Can't wait until Amare signs with Miami next year...

[Zan Tabak]

It's going to be madness.

[beasted86]

Let's look at the guaranteed contracts:

Jason Terry $10.4 million
Jason Kidd $8.5 million
Shawn Marion $7.2 million
Matt Carroll $4.3 million
Kris Humphries $3.2 million
Jose Juan Barrea $1.8 million
Roddy BeouBois $1.2 million
Greg Buckner $1.0 million

That's $37.6 million right there.

Let's say Dirk Nowitski gives up his $22 million to accept what? Let's say $12 million a year, a ridiculously low number for Dirk.

That's about $50 million in Mavericks salary.

The salary cap will be about $52 million. That doesn't even include Josh Howard who Mavericks have an option on.



Sorry, the facts say that article doesn't know what their talking about.
Thanks for pointing out what I was about to repeat. About 2 months ago Dallas fans tried to argue the same thing with me, when I pointed out this same thing.

They kept trying to reiterrate somebody would just GIVE them a superstar for Dampier's "player exception contract" and a first rounder. :rolleyes:

Their only realistic option is to trade Joh Howard for a medium tier C (Okafor, Chandler, maybe......... Bogut), or Dampier's expirer for a salary dump bad contract.

[bagelred]

Thanks for pointing out what I was about to repeat. About 2 months ago Dallas fans tried to argue the same thing with me, when I pointed out this same thing.

They kept trying to reiterrate somebody would just GIVE them a superstar for Dampier's "player exception contract" and a first rounder. :rolleyes:

Their only realistic option is to trade Joh Howard for a medium tier C (Okafor, Chandler, maybe......... Bogut), or Dampier's expirer for a salary dump bad contract.

Yup, if Mavericks want to make a move for talent, they'll have to do it using Howard and/or Dampier. They could trade one of them now for worse contract. Or wait and do a SnT at end of year....


They could always trade Howard for Eddy Curry. :D

[paperstreet]

Ok..
If it becomes clear to a team like Toronto that Chris Bosh will not stay, rather than let him walk for nothing.... Dallas can hand over Dampier. Dampier's contract is written in such a way that he can be traded this summer and be immediately waved without being paid a dime.

So Dallas can add cash, picks, or maybe a nice young player (Beaubois who was drafted this year looks good) to facilitate a Sign and Trade. Toronto (or whichever team doesn't want to lose their player for nothing) gets cash, pick, or young player from Dallas.

[beasted86]

Ok..
If it becomes clear to a team like Toronto that Chris Bosh will not stay, rather than let him walk for nothing.... Dallas can hand over Dampier. Dampier's contract is written in such a way that he can be traded this summer and be immediately waved without being paid a dime.

So Dallas can add cash, picks, or maybe a nice young player (Beaubois who was drafted this year looks good) to facilitate a Sign and Trade. Toronto (or whichever team doesn't want to lose their player for nothing) gets cash, pick, or young player from Dallas.
This is EXACTLY what I was talking about above.... :oldlol:

Yes... Rodrique Beaubois and a 20th-30th first round pick in 2011 (Nets own their 2010 first) is going to get them Chris Bosh. :rolleyes:

[ZaaaaaH]

You can build a whole new team and still be in the winning side if you pick ur players right.

[Jasper]

I think Ish'ers are finally realizing that the players want to make an impact by calling the shots , to where and when they want to play.

People laugh when others state that 3-4 all-stars could play on the same team ...

Why not if they all except a low amount of cash :confusedshrug:

[bagelred]

I think Ish'ers are finally realizing that the players want to make an impact by calling the shots , to where and when they want to play.

People laugh when others state that 3-4 all-stars could play on the same team ...

Why not if they all except a low amount of cash :confusedshrug:

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

[Raider007]

Lebron James (P)
Dwyane Wade (P)
Chris Bosh (P)
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce (P)
Amare Stoudemire (P)
Dirk Nowitzki (P)
Manu Ginobli
Tracy McGrady
Carlos Boozer
Shaquille O'Neal
Yao Ming (P)
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

2010 NY Knicks:

C Amare Stoudemire
PF Dirk Nowitzki
SF Lebron James
SG Manu Ginobli
PG Dwyane Wade

:lol
It is very possible the Knicks can buy a championship team.
The Knicks must be planning something big for this draft.
My guess is Wade and LBJames are going, maybe Shaq.

[paperstreet]

This is EXACTLY what I was talking about above.... :oldlol:

Yes... Rodrique Beaubois and a 20th-30th first round pick in 2011 (Nets own their 2010 first) is going to get them Chris Bosh. :rolleyes:

I was not saying for Chris Bosh specifically, just using him as an example.

It is possible Dampier's contract has a big effect this summer. A team can do a S&T without having to take on salary.

[Jasper]

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

What is confusing ?

The players as in Wade , Bosh , Bron are dictating when and where they want to play as well as how much.

To assume they will want max contracts is an assumption most fans would think.
But what if ... and it's a stretch for most to think of -

They all sign for mid range contracts that allows 3-4 all-star calibur players to make a legit run at a championship not only the first year , but for several year period.
Let's face it , Bron and Wade have more money then they know what to do with , and all those endorsements will just keep rolling in.

[bagelred]

They all sign for mid range contracts that allows 3-4 all-star calibur players to make a legit run at a championship not only the first year , but for several year period.
Let's face it , Bron and Wade have more money then they know what to do with , and all those endorsements will just keep rolling in.

How naive are you? Players in the prime of their career take all the money they can. If you believe Bosh, Lebron, or Wade will take less than Max money, you are living in a dreamland. Period. It will never, ever happen.

Guys at the END of their careers might take less....

[soadrules]

How naive are you? Players in the prime of their career take all the money they can. If you believe Bosh, Lebron, or Wade will take less than Max money, you are living in a dreamland. Period. It will never, ever happen.

Guys at the END of their careers might take less....

I think you're right for the most part, however, if a team is in rebuild mode and has NO chance of rebuilding around them and making them a contender within the next 2-3 years, I don't think they'll go there. SOmething like the Sacramento Kings or whatever (Hypothetical). But someone like the Knicks who have a crap load of cap-space left and can sign multiple all-stars and other fillers that are needed for a championship team, I can see a superstar going.

[Jasper]

How naive are you? Players in the prime of their career take all the money they can. If you believe Bosh, Lebron, or Wade will take less than Max money, you are living in a dreamland. Period. It will never, ever happen.

Guys at the END of their careers might take less....
This is only a comment argument. Quite frankly I do not care what the hell any of them actually do , because they all are millionaires.
And for you assuming that a player only thinks about money is just foolish.
Bron has stated , he wants multiple titles to his resume for the HOF.

As for guys at the END of their careers might take less money , you are looking at veteran midlevel exceptions etc .. when these guys are washups and teams will not pay them anything.
Even though Jordan came out of retirement and took nothing to play for a team he was a president of ,
please look at the last year he played for the Bulls in which he actually retired.
He made the most in the league , and if I recall it was 31mill.

That was the Bulls thanking MJ for not max'ing out a multi - contract (years) like KG did to the Timberwolves and basically screwed them.
Let's face it - players know they have to work with an organization to build a team around them or other elite players on the roster.

[bagelred]

This is only a comment argument. Quite frankly I do not care what the hell any of them actually do , because they all are millionaires.
.

So what are you talking about? Isn't that what we are talking about, what they'll actually do? :hammerhead:

I guarantee you Lebron, Wade, and Bosh will all make max money whereever they end up next year. 99.44% guaranteed. Like Ivory soap.

[Jasper]

So what are you talking about? Isn't that what we are talking about, what they'll actually do? :hammerhead:

I guarantee you Lebron, Wade, and Bosh will all make max money whereever they end up next year. 99.44% guaranteed. Like Ivory soap.


I'll then put in my guess -
I say the 3 players will take less money - instead of a max contract , play with 1-2 other all-stars and head for the conference finals.

I'll save this thread and see who's right.

[bagelred]

I'll then put in my guess -
I say the 3 players will take less money - instead of a max contract , play with 1-2 other all-stars and head for the conference finals.

I'll save this thread and see who's right.

OK, we shall see.

[bagelred]

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[Rocker09]

All I can say is....2010 is going to be one of the most exciting off season we'll ever see......All these big names....wow...

[lilgodfather1]

The Knicks should stay away from the LeBron, Wade, Bosh group, and concentrate on the TJ Ford, Dirk, etc group. As in players who are still very good or great (Dirk), but will not cost near as much money as the top tier guys which would thus allow the Knicks to actually sign a roster as opposed to just LeBron/Wade/Bosh. FA is not the way to build.

[bagelred]

Bump because this thread is awesome.

[beasted86]

The Knicks should stay away from the LeBron, Wade, Bosh group, and concentrate on the TJ Ford, Dirk, etc group. As in players who are still very good or great (Dirk), but will not cost near as much money as the top tier guys which would thus allow the Knicks to actually sign a roster as opposed to just LeBron/Wade/Bosh. FA is not the way to build.
Convince yourself of this... maybe you'll sleep better :oldlol:

Signing LeBron or Wade is without a doubt their best option long term, and to quickly change the team around to a winning franchise as soon as possible.

[bagelred]

Convince yourself of this... maybe you'll sleep better :oldlol:

Signing LeBron or Wade is without a doubt their best option long term, and to quickly change the team around to a winning franchise as soon as possible.

Yeah, we don't need Lebron. What was Walsh thinking? :hammerhead:

[bagelred]

Some updates. If any mistakes, inform me.

[ChuckOakley]

Bags,

Come, on now..

Middle-Upper Tier?

Anthony Carter
Kurt Thomas
Luke Ridnour
Sergio Rodriguez (R)
Erik Dampier
Derek Fisher
Michael Finley
Steven Hunter
Brian Cook
Matt Bonner
Lindsay Hunter
DeShawn Stevenson (P)
Quentin Richardson
Vladimir Radmonovic (P)
Joe Smith
Tony Allen
Matt Barnes
Jordan Farmar (R)

Those are some reaches.


There are 4 main courses:
LBJ
Wade
Bosh
Amare

then there are the satisfying left-overs:
JJ
Rudy Gay
Carlos Boozer
David Lee
Manu Ginobli
Ray Allen
Rudy Gay
Luis Scola

And then some cold pizza:
Felton
Salmons
Azubuike
Morrow
Outlaw
TyThomas
B.Miller
JO
Haslem
Nate
Harrington
Camby
Iverson
R.Brewer
Shaq


And then there are table scraps:
Everyone else.

[MeLO MvP 15]

Bags,

Come, on now..

Middle-Upper Tier?

Anthony Carter
Kurt Thomas
Luke Ridnour
Sergio Rodriguez (R)
Erik Dampier
Derek Fisher
Michael Finley
Steven Hunter
Brian Cook
Matt Bonner
Lindsay Hunter
DeShawn Stevenson (P)
Quentin Richardson
Vladimir Radmonovic (P)
Joe Smith
Tony Allen
Matt Barnes
Jordan Farmar (R)

Those are some reaches.


There are 4 main courses:
LBJ
Wade
Bosh
Amare

then there are the satisfying left-overs:
JJ
Rudy Gay
Carlos Boozer
David Lee
Manu Ginobli
Ray Allen
Rudy Gay (thats weird i didnt know gay could clone himself jk
Luis Scola

And then some cold pizza:
Felton
Salmons
Azubuike
Morrow
Outlaw
TyThomas
B.Miller
JO
Haslem
Nate
Harrington
Camby
Iverson
R.Brewer
Shaq


And then there are table scraps:
Everyone else.

nice analysis ill have one main course, 1 or 2 cold pizzas and some scraps :cheers:


rly tho,
if i was NY i would do this
sign Amare (i think lebron/wade re-sign)
sign either scola or gay or foye (actually the best fit)
then the line up is set....
foye-chandler-gallo-either scola/harrington/jefferies/some vet-amare
prty good lineup

[bagelred]

Bags,

Come, on now..

Middle-Upper Tier?



Yes, Upper-Middle Tier.

All that means are guys that are above average. You are reading too much into it. Believe it or not, most guys are "in the middle". Not just some prize possessions and everyone else are scraps. That's not realistic.


I never said it was exact, just a way to categorize FA's and see who's out there.

[Jasper]

As most of you know , Bron had discussed his current contract with Bosh and Wade ("as friends do") and they all decided it was a good direction for each of them. Melo decided otherwise.

Any case wouldn't it be interesting if 5 top tier free agents decided to tell their agents to lock up a 1 year contract for all of them on one team and play for 2 mill !!!!!!!!!!

Just to get a ring :bowdown:

[Killbot]

As most of you know , Bron had discussed his current contract with Bosh and Wade ("as friends do") and they all decided it was a good direction for each of them. Melo decided otherwise.

Any case wouldn't it be interesting if 5 top tier free agents decided to tell their agents to lock up a 1 year contract for all of them on one team and play for 2 mill !!!!!!!!!!

Just to get a ring :bowdown:

I don't know why most players don't do this. It's one of the smartest things to do when you want to get a ring.

[bagelred]

I don't know why most players don't do this. It's one of the smartest things to do when you want to get a ring.

I think you guys overrate the "got to get a ring" thing. Getting paid is always first on players minds. Period.

Also, getting a ring only means something to those guys if they are the first or second option. These guys all want to be the man. Not sidekicks.

[bagelred]

Added Channing Frye. Missed him. He's definitely opting out of his option.

[Lord Leoshes]

well i got news from a friend, of a friend, of a friend who is psychic that Wade, Bron, & Bosh will sign with Miami for $13 mil each so that they can all play together. :hammerhead:

[AKADS]

Let's look at the guaranteed contracts:

Jason Terry $10.4 million
Jason Kidd $8.5 million
Shawn Marion $7.2 million
Matt Carroll $4.3 million
Kris Humphries $3.2 million
Jose Juan Barrea $1.8 million
Roddy BeouBois $1.2 million
Greg Buckner $1.0 million

That's $37.6 million right there.

Let's say Dirk Nowitski gives up his $22 million to accept what? Let's say $12 million a year, a ridiculously low number for Dirk.

That's about $50 million in Mavericks salary.

The salary cap will be about $52 million. That doesn't even include Josh Howard who Mavericks have an option on.



Sorry, the facts say that article doesn't know what their talking about.
Plus cap hold at vet minimum and a cap hold against all draft picks. there for no cap space.

[Knicks101]

well i got news from a friend, of a friend, of a friend who is psychic that Wade, Bron, & Bosh will sign with Miami for $13 mil each so that they can all play together. :hammerhead:

:oldlol: The first friend was Beasted.

Does anybody else think that Timofey Mozgov will end up with the Knicks?

[bagelred]

Thread needs to be bumped once in a while. To remind us of teams potential changes.....

Look for errors on the list.

[JustinJDW]

Damn, why don't the NBA just start over and say everyone will be a Free Agent come 2010.

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

Hmm. Maybe the Celtics can sign Mike Miller to replace Ray.

[bagelred]

Hmm. Maybe the Celtics can sign Mike Miller to replace Ray.

Mike Miller and Lebron James are good friends. I'm think Miller joins Lebron in New York for reasonable money.

[cotdt]

You forget Kobe Bryant who has a player option.

[T.O.RAPS]

these free agents plus the rookies coming in=great summer to be an nba fan

[bagelred]

The time gets closer and closer....now talking about 2010 isn't crazy anymore. We'll need to start making predictions soon.

C'mon ISH, sticky this thread.....

[bagelred]

Bump because we need to revisit this thing.

[bagelred]

Occasional bump

[Jasper]

With Finley going to Celtics -

I'd say Celtic's might be busy enough this summer to keep a semblance of their core and yet go after guys like Joe Johnson and marcus Camby that could significantly solidify a couple of positions.

IMO after Jamison was acquired from the Cav's - Bron basically is off the table , unless the Cav's have a melt down in the playoffs.

Which would mean the most important move or non-move would be D-Wade that could affect the rest of the teams and acquisitions.

[DirkNowitzki41]

Lebron James (P)
Dwyane Wade (P)
Chris Bosh (P)
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce (P)
Amare Stoudemire (P)
Dirk Nowitzki (P)
Manu Ginobli
Tracy McGrady
Carlos Boozer
Shaquille O'Neal
Yao Ming (P)
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

2010 NY Knicks:

C Amare Stoudemire
PF Dirk Nowitzki
SF Lebron James
SG Manu Ginobli
PG Dwyane Wade

:lol

lol i would love that

[InspiredLebowski]

I've read TJ Ford said on a radio show a few months ago that he picked up his player option for next year years ago. Don't know if it's true, either way he's not passing on $8.5mm.

[bagelred]

Bump. I'll fill in who went where soon.

[shanethetrain]

well i got news from a friend, of a friend, of a friend who is psychic that Wade, Bron, & Bosh will sign with Miami for $13 mil each so that they can all play together. :hammerhead:

Wow.

[bagelred]

Updated.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

well i got news from a friend, of a friend, of a friend who is psychic that Wade, Bron, & Bosh will sign with Miami for $13 mil each so that they can all play together. :hammerhead::applause: :lol

[Andrei89]

Damn nobody hated on Lebron back then. Chiago loved him, New York loved him , Cleveland loved him

Ppl are so itter right now looking at the main forum page it screams ""depression""

:lol

[ChuckOakley]

Sheldon Williams Denver
Quentin Ross - NJ
Johan Petro - NJ
Brian Cook - LAC
D.Wright - GS
Juwan Howard - Miami
Dominic McGuire - Charlotte
Aaron Gray- NOH

Geesh Bagel, put some effort into this at least!:no:
j/k

[bagelred]

Sheldon Williams Denver
Quentin Ross - NJ
Johan Petro - NJ
Brian Cook - LAC
D.Wright - GS
Juwan Howard - Miami
Dominic McGuire - Charlotte
Aaron Gray- NOH

Geesh Bagel, put some effort into this at least!:no:
j/k

Geez, man, you think I can keep up with every free agent? I'll adjust list soon. :mad: :lol

[ChuckOakley]

Geez, man, you think I can keep up with every free agent? I'll adjust list soon. :mad: :lol
Like you have something better to do?
:rolleyes:

[ChuckOakley]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AlGMUAkG4kYKwEySTNnj1em8vLYF?slug=ys-nbafreeagenttracker2010

[Knicks101]

:oldlol: The first friend was Beasted.

Does anybody else think that Timofey Mozgov will end up with the Knicks?

Damn I'm good. :pimp:

[ChuckOakley]

Can't wait until Amare signs with Miami next year...
:lol
OWNED!
By NY no less!

[dbugz]

I thought R. Jefferson already signed with the Spurs? :confusedshrug:

[Knicks101]

:lol
OWNED!
By NY no less!

Shattering Miami fan's dreams. One Free Agent at a time.

[bagelred]

Damn I'm good. :pimp:

NY did it!! They got the #1 free agent!!! That was the goal all along and we did!!! It's all right there in that list.....


.........not listening.......la la la la...........whistling...........

[bagelred]

Updated....again.

[ChuckOakley]

Hilton Armstrong - Washington Wizards
:no:

[ChuckOakley]

So what are you talking about? Isn't that what we are talking about, what they'll actually do? :hammerhead:

I guarantee you Lebron, Wade, and Bosh will all make max money whereever they end up next year. 99.44% guaranteed. Like Ivory soap.
So... was that a money back guarantee?
And are you going to wash your mouth out with Ivory soap now?

[bagelred]

So... was that a money back guarantee?
And are you going to wash your mouth out with Ivory soap now?

Way to take something out of context.

The guy was arguing they will all take "mid level money" to play together. Taking a what....10% decrease off max money?....isn't exactly mid level money. Considering Florida has no state taxes, its probably barely less than max.

[bagelred]

Mike Miller and Lebron James are good friends. I'm think Miller joins Lebron in New York for reasonable money.

Right idea. Wrong city.

[bdreason]

Already a sticky at the top of the forum.

[bagelred]

Already a sticky at the top of the forum.

By thread shows available free agents.

[Go Getter]

OP is a delusional Knicks fans I stopped reading when I saw that foreign stiff Timofey whatever at the head of the top tier free agents list.

[bagelred]

OP is a delusional Knicks fans I stopped reading when I saw that foreign stiff Timofey whatever at the head of the top tier free agents list.

Tina Fey Mazel Tov


I'm sorry, did you say something?

[bagelred]

Bump

[Jasper]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bagelred
So what are you talking about? Isn't that what we are talking about, what they'll actually do?

I guarantee you Lebron, Wade, and Bosh will all make max money whereever they end up next year. 99.44% guaranteed. Like Ivory soap.



I'll then put in my guess -
I say the 3 players will take less money - instead of a max contract , play with 1-2 other all-stars and head for the conference finals.

I'll save this thread and see who's right.

Bump from 10/2009

:D Some big bucks

[bagelred]

:D Some big bucks

Dude, are you serious? They BARELY took less than max. What like 10% less? After taxes in Florida, its barely less at all. And they all got their 6 years.

YOU were talking about a situation where they take SIGNIFICANTLY less money to play together. Like MLE money, or half the max....not a 10% discount on the first year with 10.5% raises.

C'mon, get real......the times guys sacrifice major money is at ends of careers. Lebron, Bosh, and Wade are barely "sacrificing" at all.

[ReturnofJPR]

Dude, are you serious? They BARELY took less than max. What like 10% less? After taxes in Florida, its barely less at all. And they all got their 6 years.

YOU were talking about a situation where they take SIGNIFICANTLY less money to play together. Like MLE money, or half the max....not a 10% discount on the first year with 10.5% raises.

C'mon, get real......the times guys sacrifice major money is at ends of careers. Lebron, Bosh, and Wade are barely "sacrificing" at all.

Are you living on Mars, you SOB?

They are sacrificing millions, especially Wade who makes less than both Bosh and LeBronze. Wade is the unsung hero in all of this. His legacy will live on. He is doing Chicago proud. Just like Rose has. And just like Evan Turner will. Chicago is the mecca of basketball. Always has been, always will be.

[bagelred]

Updates.....help me fill in those bottom tiers.

[Nelson14]

can't believe dampier still hasn't made a move

[ChuckOakley]

Adam Morrison - Washington
Francisco Elson - Utah
Darius Songalia - Philly
Joe Alexander - NOH
C.J. Watson - Chicago
Craig Smith - LAC
Brian Scalibriane - Chicago
Tony Battie - Philly
Shawne Williams - NY
Josh Powell - Atlanta
Jason Williams - Orlando
Chris Quinn - Philly
Jamaal Magloire - Miami
Jason Collins- Atlanta
Rodney Carney- GSW
Jawad Williams- Cleveland
Malik Allen - Orlando
Louis Amundson - GSW
Pops Mensa_Bonsu - NOH
Josh Howard - Washington
Keyon Dooling - Milwaukee
Eduardo Najera - Charlotte
Yi Jianlian - Washington
Willie Green - NOH
Delonte West - Boston
Carlos Delfino - Milwaukee
Carl Landry - Sacramento
Chuck Hayes - Houston

[bagelred]

Adam Morrison - Washington


Updated......thanks

[Nelson14]

Allen Iverson
Rafer Alston
Erik Dampier
Michael Finley
Larry Hughes
Mike James
Brian Skinner
Sergio Rodriguez (R)
Etan Thomas
Steven Hunter
Sasha Pavlovic
Antonio Daniels
Bobby Simmons
Josh Boone (R)
Adonal Foyle
Anthony Johnson
Rasho Nesterovic
Flip Murray
Travis Diener
Ike Diogu
Jamaal Tinsley
Damien Wilkins
Devean George
Devin Brown
Sean Marks
James Singleton
Sean Williams
Ricky Davis
Shawne Williams (R)
Sean May
Oleksiy Pecherov
Desmond Mason
DJ Mbenga
Steve Novak
Mardy Collins (R)
Trenton Hassell
Mikki Moore
Speedy Claxton
Brian Cardinal
Yakhouba Diawara
Dontell Jefferson
Fabricio Oberto
Janerro Pargo
Patrick O'Bryant
Mark Blount
Kenny Thomas
Primoz Brezec
Jerome James
Curtis Jerrells
Walter Sharpe
Randolph Morris
James White
Kevin Ollie
Kryllo Fesenko
Marcus Williams
Marcus Haislip



fesenko signed with utah

[Nelson14]

and whats going on with earl barron
?

[Hawker]

Steve Novak to the Mavericks

http://www.chicoer.com/rss/ci_16161057?source=rss