The Hulk VS The Thing

[andredagiant]

Whose Stronger? Or more specifically who would win in a fight?

The Hulk

Real Name:
Robert Bruce Banner

Education
Banner has a PhD in Nuclear Physics. The various Hulk personas have demonstrated different intelligence levels, from brutish to average to the same level of intelligence as Banner.

Height
5' 9

[Brujesino]

hulk easily

[andredagiant]

Sorry, can posters elaborate and give me an example/examples as to why who they think would win, would win? Thanks.

[hayden695]

Sorry, can posters elaborate and give me an example/examples as to why who they think would win, would win? Thanks.
The fact that the Hulk is twice his weight and over a foot taller should give you a good indication. It is like Shaq vs. Ben Gordon.

[Lebron23]

The Hulk is one of the strongest characters in the Marvel Universe. He owned Thor, and Captain America in the Ultimate Avengers Movie.

[HighFlyer23]

juggernaut rapes both at the same time

[oh the horror]

juggernaut rapes both at the same time


Hulk has not only beaten the Juggernaut before...


http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs29/f/2008/155/b/7/Hulk_vs_Juggernaut_by_Sidious_black.jpg


but also has beat down the Thing as well...


http://www.ryanottley.com/images/covers/56.jpg

[miller-time]

yeah the hulk is on supermans level basically. superman is probably better, but hulk is still better than most.

according to marvel directory

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/t/thing.htm


Strength Level: The Thing possesses superhuman strength, enabling him to lift (press) 85 tons. The Thing's strength grew considerably over the initial years of his career. At one early point in his life as the Thing, for example, he could only lift (press) 5 tons.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/h/hulk.htm


Strength Level: The Hulk possesses superhuman strength of the Class 100 level, enabling him to lift (press) in excess of 100 tons. The Hulk only attains this strength level when he is enraged. In a totally, calm state his functional strength is significantly less, perhaps in the 70 ton range. In human form Bruce Banner possesses the normal human strength of a man of his age, height, and build who engages in no regular exercise.

so technically if hulk isn't enraged the thing could beat him.

[oh the horror]

The thing about the Hulk, that makes him one of the more dangerous characters created, is that the angrier he gets, the stronger he literally becomes...so in essence, the Hulk is essentially limitless in strength.

[andredagiant]

Ok, so it seems most people agree that the Hulk is the one who would win, but what about the tactics and brains part, I mean the angrier the Hulk gets, the less he thinks, though he doesn't think that much already anyway, since all he does is smash...but the thing with the mind of a human would be able to fight strategically which would be to his advantage. And one of you actually brought up an interesting point, who would win in a fight The Hulk vs Superman??

[sirkeelma]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp0Cu3wqLb4

[The_Night_Elf]

Here

[goldenryan]

hard to answer, but i would say the hulk because he never really gets injuried. the thing often complains about taking his lumps (so he does get injuried).

[HylianNightmare]

red hulk

[andredagiant]

Whose red hulk?? Oh and the thing about superman vs the Hulk...I mean in terms of raw power does superman really have the advantage? I mean I heard superman has "super" human strength whereas the Hulk has "limitless" strength, as long as he gets angrier and angrier......and supermans heat beam and flying abilities ain't gonna help him if the Hulk is angry, so who would win? As for the fight between the hulk and the thing I think it's decided the Hulk would win, but what if the thing had help from the others, another words what if it was the hulk vs the fantastic four?

[Rojogaqu11]

Juggernaut>Hulk>>>>Thing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/Cuo-sama/JuggyHulk.jpg

:confusedshrug:

[goldenryan]

Juggernaut>Hulk>>>>Thing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/Cuo-sama/JuggyHulk.jpg

:confusedshrug:

jewel of cyttorak my ass, i gave juggy the benefit of the doubt he could beat the thing, but the hulk get real.

[andredagiant]

For real? the juggernaut is stronger than the hulk?? They should make a movie where these superheros meet and actually fight each other, so we can actually know for sure who is the strongest, it would be a whole notha level if they had all the superheros and villans fight each other..............that movie would make billions....

[KOLBCTEW]

:wtf: Hulk curbstorms the Thing. Hulk was able to shatter an asteroid twice the size of earth with a single punch. He thunderclapped a pocket universe out of existence. He was able to withstand a Full force Black Bolt sonic scream. Hulk was able to regenerate from a skeletal state, The Thing doesn't stand a chance.

[ErhnamDjinn]

golden age Flash owns all. Anyway Hulk is what they call level 100 super mutant, I think the hero's villains in his range are like Thor, Magneto, Silver Surfer, Galactus, and Thanos. Thing is more in the range of Colossus type or Sasquatch type of mutant. Plus theres a version of hulk who has hulks strength but brains of good ole Bruce.

Superman would beat Hulk because he can go like lightspeed and just constantly punch Hulk and just dodge him. Flash would just go so fast a disolve both of them by messing with there matter.

[glidedrxlr22]

I remember ,from my Marvel Universe comics or from the Marvel rpg, It was said that the thing can lift about 75 tons...while the Hulk can lift in excess of 100 tons.

[vapid]

golden age Flash owns all. Anyway Hulk is what they call level 100 super mutant, I think the hero's villains in his range are like Thor, Magneto, Silver Surfer, Galactus, and Thanos. Thing is more in the range of Colossus type or Sasquatch type of mutant. Plus theres a version of hulk who has hulks strength but brains of good ole Bruce.

Superman would beat Hulk because he can go like lightspeed and just constantly punch Hulk and just dodge him. Flash would just go so fast a disolve both of them by messing with there matter.
I think its just Class 100, based on how many tons they can lift, no mutant. Also I'm pretty sure Post-Crisis Flash is faster because he's the only one that can access the Speed Force reliably and do a lot more things with speed like steal it from people.

[HighFlyer23]

Hulk has not only beaten the Juggernaut before...


http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs29/f/2008/155/b/7/Hulk_vs_Juggernaut_by_Sidious_black.jpg


but also has beat down the Thing as well...


http://www.ryanottley.com/images/covers/56.jpg


lmao

the xmen had to save his b!tch @ss

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Neptune/7060/vs_Hulk.html

... no force on earth can stop juggernauts momentum ...

[pete's montreux]

I've written a long post before on Hulk's powers, but he pretty much the strongest character in comics who isn't capable of eating galaxies.

The Thing is literally no match for Hulk. It's not even funny.

[Undisputed]

Juggernaut>Hulk>>>>Thing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/Cuo-sama/JuggyHulk.jpg

:confusedshrug:
Gladiator owned Juggernaut. I'm sure the Hulk could pull it off because I remember reading a comic a long time ago where Hulk kicked Gladiators ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mn3AQWxAig

The Hulk would always end up beating the sh*t out of the Thing one on one, and the Thing has always been my favorite Marvel character. He only has a chance with the Fantastic four.

[vapid]

I've written a long post before on Hulk's powers, but he pretty much the strongest character in comics who isn't capable of eating galaxies.

The Thing is literally no match for Hulk. It's not even funny.
Not really, there are tons of earth dudes that are stronger than Hulk. Thor, Magneto, Flash, Superman, Martian Manhunter, Sentry, Strange, Possibly Apoc, Doomsday, The General, Green Lantern(s), etc.

[Undisputed]

If I remember right, Rogue even laid a hurting on Gladiator.
Rogue can lay a beating on pretty much anyone once she lays her hands on them.

[vapid]

That is true, but I don't remember if she stole some of his energy or if they just went at it. I think it was during the Phoenix Saga somewhere.
Gladiator gets chumped a lot because writers like to emphasize his confidence weakness. Basically the longer you hold your own against him the more he will doubt his own ability and become weaker.

[Undisputed]

That is true, but I don't remember if she stole some of his energy or if they just went at it. I think it was during the Phoenix Saga somewhere.

I loved the Phoenix Saga. I wish I still had those comics and VHS of the cartoons. I had them when I was about 11. I think I may go to a comic shop and the Phoenix Saga back issues, I could use some nostalgia in my life.

[rezznor]

http://www.bamkapow.com/bk_images/2008/06/05/hulk-amazing-feats/hulk-vs-superman.jpg

[rezznor]

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh175/roky67/HULK_SUPERMAN.jpg

[rezznor]

^^^^ No matter how strong he is, I doubt Hulk could throw Superman to the sun... Especially before Superman stopped himself.
it would be written as a tie.

dont forget doomsday managed to kill superman, and he basically has Hulk powers.

[iamgine]

Doesn't Hulk change into Bruce Banner after a while?

[rezznor]

Doesn't Hulk change into Bruce Banner after a while?
not always. depends on which hulk you get, there are lotsa versions. the world war hulk version was a bad ass, basically took over a whole planet, then went to earth and kicked every major hero's ass in world war hulk. then there's the maestro version, which was basically an evil hulk with banner intelligence who killed every hero and took over the world in his timeline.

[andredagiant]

Oh true...I still don't think Superman can simply throw the hulk.....i think it would be a tie, also how come Thor is so powerful? I thought he was just the god of thunder? Thunder doesn't effect Hulk? And there are some weird superheros and villains I've never heard of in this thread.... As for Magneto, what can he do? I'm sure the hulk can easily break the metal things that magneto use to hit hulk with, and as for rogue, yeah she would be strong, if she managed to survive a punch by the hulk........and still manages to touch him....and about juggernaut, he has limitless "momentum" therefore, if there was no momentum wouldn't he just be your average strongman?

[vapid]

Oh true...I still don't think Superman can simply throw the hulk.....i think it would be a tie, also how come Thor is so powerful? I thought he was just the god of thunder? Thunder doesn't effect Hulk? And there are some weird superheros and villains I've never heard of in this thread.... As for Magneto, what can he do? I'm sure the hulk can easily break the metal things that magneto use to hit hulk with, and as for rogue, yeah she would be strong, if she managed to survive a punch by the hulk........and still manages to touch him....and about juggernaut, he has limitless "momentum" therefore, if there was no momentum wouldn't he just be your average strongman?
Thor is basically the same strength as Superman, Marvel just took his backstory and gave him some new powers. His hammer Mjolnir gives him the edge against Supes usually because its magical and is a projectile. It can also teleport him and stuff. Thor would beat Hulk. Same class strength but better combat ability and smarter.

Magneto's shields can withstand direct blasts against Galactus. Needless to say Hulk's punches aren't as powerful. Mags could do a number of things like fill Hulk's insides with metal or assaul his more vulnerable body parts. He's creative and versatile enough.

Juggs has superhuman strength/endurance due to the magical properties of Cyttorak. He still can't beat Hulk.

[HighFlyer23]

lmao superman would and has beaten the hulk:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8056/supesvshulk18sq.jpg

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/456/supesvshulk31gr.jpg
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http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5272/supesvshulk40me.jpg

[KOLBCTEW]

Magneto's shields can withstand direct blasts against Galactus. Needless to say Hulk's punches aren't as powerful. Mags could do a number of things like fill Hulk's insides with metal or assaul his more vulnerable body parts. He's creative and versatile enough.
.You have to take that into context. Much of the time Galactus is severly weakened due his constant need to feed.
Hulks regeneration is too powerful, he once was able to regenerate from a skeletal state.

[vapid]

You have to take that into context. Much of the time Galactus is severly weakened due his constant need to feed.
Hulks regeneration is too powerful, he once was able to regenerate from a skeletal state.
I'd still take Mags he has a ton of other feats that are worth mentioning. Could jsut propel Hulk into space b4 Hulk ges too mad.

[vapid]

If the nba season wasn't starting soon I'd ask if people wanted me to revive the comic draft....

[rezznor]

If the nba season wasn't starting soon I'd ask if people wanted me to revive the comic draft....
dont forget the cartoon draft too lol

[KOLBCTEW]

I'd still take Mags he has a ton of other feats that are worth mentioning. Could jsut propel Hulk into space b4 Hulk ges too mad.Don't even think that would work. In The Incredible Hulk # 90, Nick Fury theorized the Hulk's mutation can alter his body to adapt even in space similar to the way his body adapted to breathe underwater. And to account for his immobility; he once got angry enough to destroy a universe using his thunderclap. Granted it was a pocket universe but it would still be of considerable size.

[rezznor]

Don't even think that would work. In The Incredible Hulk # 90, Nick Fury theorized the Hulk's mutation can alter his body to adapt even in space similar to the way his body adapted to breathe underwater. And to account for his immobility; he once got angry enough to destroy a universe using his thunderclap. Granted it was a pocket universe but it would still be of considerable size.
hulk has survived in outer space before. he basically rode on the hood of his spaceship when he invaded earth a few years back.

[pete's montreux]

Not really, there are tons of earth dudes that are stronger than Hulk. Thor, Magneto, Flash, Superman, Martian Manhunter, Sentry, Strange, Possibly Apoc, Doomsday, The General, Green Lantern(s), etc.

I never said there weren't other characters that weren't as strong. Hulk's powers are infinite. He's destroyed an entire planet with a single punch before [ill try to get scans if i can, please remind me]

I didn't believe it myself, but I found a post on a random message board from a Hulk homer who detailed Hulk's greatest feats and they were incredible. He compared him only to Thor.

This is why I hate debating about comic book characters, because their histories are so long and there have been so many arcs, if I wanted to, I'm sure I could research for months and find two or three issues that have a ridiculous Hulk feat it in that will blow your mind, and you could do the same for every other character you mentioned.

[goldenryan]

Gladiator owned Juggernaut. I'm sure the Hulk could pull it off because I remember reading a comic a long time ago where Hulk kicked Gladiators ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mn3AQWxAig

The Hulk would always end up beating the sh*t out of the Thing one on one, and the Thing has always been my favorite Marvel character. He only has a chance with the Fantastic four.

That was just in the cartoon. in the real phoeinx saga; juggernaut was defeated by jumping off the cliffs into the ocean to save black tom and never fought gladiator once.

[The_Night_Elf]

True.

You know what I'd like to see?

If some massive guy like Juggs, the Thing, or anyone with massive strength just hides around a corner... Then when Banner strolls by just massively sucker punch him and shatter his skull. I just think that's a huge weakness in the Hulk that isn't really addressed.

Could be like a 3 part miniseries or something. 'The world without Hulk' or something. :confusedshrug:

Ever read "Punisher Kills the Marvel universe"? It's a really good read. Any ways to kill Hulk, Punisher does something similar. he shoots the Hulk with a tracking device and when The Hulk is Banner again and sleeping in an ally somewhere The Punisher comes up and shoots him in the head.

[vapid]

I never said there weren't other characters that weren't as strong. Hulk's powers are infinite. He's destroyed an entire planet with a single punch before [ill try to get scans if i can, please remind me]

I didn't believe it myself, but I found a post on a random message board from a Hulk homer who detailed Hulk's greatest feats and they were incredible. He compared him only to Thor.

This is why I hate debating about comic book characters, because their histories are so long and there have been so many arcs, if I wanted to, I'm sure I could research for months and find two or three issues that have a ridiculous Hulk feat it in that will blow your mind, and you could do the same for every other character you mentioned.

All the characters I listed have feats equal or better to Hulk. You have to make sure the feat you're talking about is canon and in continuity as well. Hulk has great survivability but all of those characters could incapacitate him/knock him out and win in a 1v1 battle.

[goldenryan]

All the characters I listed have feats equal or better to Hulk. You have to make sure the feat you're talking about is canon and in continuity as well. Hulk has great survivability but all of those characters could incapacitate him/knock him out and win in a 1v1 battle.

you mentioned thor, hulk got the best of the thunder god on more than one occasion.

[vapid]

you mentioned thor, hulk got the best of the thunder god on more than one occasion.
I know one time is in the recent movie. I'm sure it could've happened in the past but based on their feats and abilities I'm still going to take the Odinson over normal Hulk. World War Hulk and Red Hulk would be a different story though.

[rezznor]

it really all depends on who is writing the story and what title the fight is being written in.

[andredagiant]

In terms of pure power and strength I have seen quotes from Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and other creators agree that it is Hulk who is the most powerful, however, I also discovered that the Avengers always fought villains they cannot beat alone, does that mean villains are more powerful than heroes? The fact they have to team up to beat each villain tells me that fact. The villains should just team up, and the world would be doomed......

[KOLBCTEW]

Hulk's powers are infinite. He's destroyed an entire planet with a single punch before [ill try to get scans if i can, please remind me]It was an asteroid twice the size of planet earth.



I didn't believe it myself, but I found a post on a random message board from a Hulk homer who detailed Hulk's greatest feats and they were incredible. He compared him only to Thor.

Though they're versions of Thor that would manhandle the Hulk.

[The_Night_Elf]

In terms of pure power and strength I have seen quotes from Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and other creators agree that it is Hulk who is the most powerful, however, I also discovered that the Avengers always fought villains they cannot beat alone, does that mean villains are more powerful than heroes? The fact they have to team up to beat each villain tells me that fact. The villains should just team up, and the world would be doomed......

That's true in essence but the thing that makes most of them villans (full of hate, mistrust, and greed) prevents them from achieving their goals. Kinda like if you got a bunch of talented yet selfish players on a team. A team of Iverson, Randolph, Marbury, Curry and Jackson on paper would be scary but they'd never get their sh!t together long enough to cause any real damage.

Plus comic book villans talk too much.:D I think Quicksilver put it pretty well talking to Reaper "If you guys would talk less you'd be ruling the world years ago..."

[vapid]

In terms of pure power and strength I have seen quotes from Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and other creators agree that it is Hulk who is the most powerful, however, I also discovered that the Avengers always fought villains they cannot beat alone, does that mean villains are more powerful than heroes? The fact they have to team up to beat each villain tells me that fact. The villains should just team up, and the world would be doomed......
Thats what happens in the Old Man Logan time line.

[rezznor]

In terms of pure power and strength I have seen quotes from Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and other creators agree that it is Hulk who is the most powerful, however, I also discovered that the Avengers always fought villains they cannot beat alone, does that mean villains are more powerful than heroes? The fact they have to team up to beat each villain tells me that fact. The villains should just team up, and the world would be doomed......
thats what happened in the "old man logan" future storyline. all the villains finally get their **** together and team up and wipe out the heroes. they then carve out the US into their own little territories

[pete's montreux]

All the characters I listed have feats equal or better to Hulk. You have to make sure the feat you're talking about is canon and in continuity as well. Hulk has great survivability but all of those characters could incapacitate him/knock him out and win in a 1v1 battle.

And Hulk could do the same so It's one giant stalemate. :confusedshrug:

That's why I've stopped wasting my time on comics. Haven't touched one in 4 months.

[andredagiant]

Thats what happens in the Old Man Logan time line.
lol oh ok...i didn't realize that, I'm not a huge comic book guy, in fact I've never read any comic books.....I just saw the movies and thought it would be cool if they were put into fights......maybe they should make a old man logan timeline movie? I mean after the villains rules the world, what happens? Doesn't that mean the world coming to an end? I mean if the world comes to an end, what can the villains do? Just lounge around all day and have sex with anyone they want?

[vapid]

lol oh ok...i didn't realize that, I'm not a huge comic book guy, in fact I've never read any comic books.....I just saw the movies and thought it would be cool if they were put into fights......maybe they should make a old man logan timeline movie? I mean after the villains rules the world, what happens? Doesn't that mean the world coming to an end? I mean if the world comes to an end, what can the villains do? Just lounge around all day and have sex with anyone they want?
They don't expand on it a lot. Emma Frost married Dr. Doom to give some of the mutants a refuge and Logan survives. (obviously) Its a dystopian future and all that and Mark Millar always writes some entertaining (if not very deep) stuff which makes for a fun read.

[vapid]

And Hulk could do the same so It's one giant stalemate. :confusedshrug:

That's why I've stopped wasting my time on comics. Haven't touched one in 4 months.
No, the point I'm saying is that Hulk would not win a majority of the battles against these guys. For like Superman/Thor it would be about 6-7/10 for them and for like Magneto or Flash they would probably win 9-10/10. (I'd give current Barry Allen Flash 10/10)

[goldenryan]

http://comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/50/28271_20060307230018_large.jpg
mr. fantatsic looks like he's calling a time out. :lol

[sergiorodriguez]

That was just in the cartoon. in the real phoeinx saga; juggernaut was defeated by jumping off the cliffs into the ocean to save black tom and never fought gladiator once.
:roll: :roll:

i saw that it just reminded me of this the funniest part is when he's flying away and goes


buttt im the juggaaa naut biiiiiiiiittcchh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgAPFKDL6Sg

[browntown]

Hulk already destroyed the Thing.

[artex]

hulk would turn the thing into a pile of sand

[Anton Chigurh]

not even a match. lol look at what hulk does to the thing in the comics