View Full Version : Top 10 Most Unbreakable Records in Basketball
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 08:47 PM
Another list from the Sports Guys New Book; pretty much the one's that come to mind and a few other good ones.
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1. Wilt's 50 per game
2. Wilt's 55 Rebounds in a game
3. Russell's 11 Rings
4. '72 Lakers 33 game win streak.
5. George McGinnis 422 Turnovers
6. Wilt's 100 point game
7. Chicago's 72 Win Season
8. Scott Skiles 30 Assists in a game
9. Rasheed Wallace's 41 Technical Fouls in '01
10. Jose Calderon's 98.1 free throw %
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Any others you can think of?
Any of these you think will be broken in our lifetime?
RajonKGcelts
11-01-2009, 08:48 PM
i have nothing to add to this thread but the fact that sheed is the man
branslowski
11-01-2009, 08:49 PM
There's solid reasons some of these won't be broken, but I don't feel like arguing atm, so, I agree with you on this...
I don't think anyone will win all games at home, breaking the 40-1 Celtics record. That's the record, right?
QuebecBaller
11-01-2009, 08:49 PM
Kareem 38387 pts
Abraham Lincoln
11-01-2009, 08:50 PM
There's solid reasons some of these won't be broken, but I don't feel like arguing atm, so, I agree with you on this...
Elaborate.
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 08:51 PM
Kareem 38387 pts
I bet it falls.
I could see LeBron or Durant doing it if they avoid injury; mostly because of the three point line and the amount of free throws they'll get late into their careers.
But a good one nonetheless, would be very tough to accomplish and not bet on anyone doing it.
Russell's 11 rings isnt unbreakable i think. Anyone can be a scrub and play on a dynasty and then be a scrub on another dynasty. its improbable but not unbreakable.
branslowski
11-01-2009, 08:53 PM
Elaborate.
Not today Abe, lets enjoy bball...Not in T.O mode atm...:D
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 08:55 PM
Russell's 11 rings isnt unbreakable i think. Anyone can be a scrub and play on a dynasty and then be a scrub on another dynasty. its improbable but not unbreakable.
11?
Robert Horry is the luckiest player ever and did play on a Dynasty, three of them really and won just 7. Not even 2/3rds the way there.
No Dynasty other than Russell's Celtics has ever won better than 4 titles in 7 seasons.
Someone would need to play 21 years and be on three Dynasty's in a row to beat 11.
branslowski
11-01-2009, 08:56 PM
Kareem 38387 pts
LeBron will crush this.....(BARRING INJURY)
Heilige
11-01-2009, 08:56 PM
Jordan's 6 Finals MVPs
Rekindled
11-01-2009, 08:56 PM
3,4,7,10 are unbreakable maybe, but the rest can be broken if the team decide to do it .
che guevara
11-01-2009, 08:57 PM
I bet it falls.
I could see LeBron or Durant doing it if they avoid injury; mostly because of the three point line and the amount of free throws they'll get late into their careers.
But a good one nonetheless, would be very tough to accomplish and not bet on anyone doing it.
I could definitely see Lebron doing it. He only has to average 23.7 ppg over the next 13 seasons, which would have him breaking the record at age 37. He'll probably average quite a bit more ppg than that for the next 8 seasons or so (he would be 32 by then, so he might even have 9 or 10 seasons over that.) Barring injury, I think Lebron will break the record, and depending on longevity, maybe even blow it out of the water.
noob cake
11-01-2009, 08:59 PM
Hose's FT record is unbreakable.
There is no way in hell that can happen ever again.
Kiddlovesnets
11-01-2009, 08:59 PM
lol Wilt's 50 minutes per game is just way too ridiculous.
9. Rasheed Wallace's 41 Technical Fouls in '01
Glad to see the Blazers on the list somewhere :lol
Kobe Jnr
11-01-2009, 09:00 PM
is number 5 turnovers in a season?
looks like I found a non-debatable aswell then, awesome...:pimp:
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 09:01 PM
3,4,7,10 are unbreakable maybe, but the rest can be broken if the team decide to do it .
#2 for Example 55 rebounds. A lot of times entire teams don't get that many rebounds in a game today. How could that ever be broken?
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 09:02 PM
is number 5 turnovers in a season?
Yes; over 5 per game
noob cake
11-01-2009, 09:03 PM
Yes; over 5 per game
Easily breakable, just get a GOAT scorer that can't dribble or pass worth ****. Put him on some scrub team and concentrate offense through him.
flipogb
11-01-2009, 09:04 PM
if we count coaching + playing rings, Phil Jackson has more with 12
Rafael Delaget
11-01-2009, 09:05 PM
Russell's 11 rings isnt unbreakable i think. Anyone can be a scrub and play on a dynasty and then be a scrub on another dynasty. its improbable but not unbreakable.
11 rings is unbreakable because there aren't 3 teams in the entire league like back in Russell's day. Or 4 or however many there were back then.
10. Jose Calderon's 98.1 free throw %
What's the min. amount of FT's that have to be taken?
1~Gibson~1
11-01-2009, 09:12 PM
Another list from the Sports Guys New Book; pretty much the one's that come to mind and a few other good ones.
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1. Wilt's 50 per game
2. Wilt's 55 Rebounds in a game
3. Russell's 11 Rings
4. '72 Lakers 33 game win streak.
5. George McGinnis 422 Turnovers
6. Wilt's 100 point game
7. Chicago's 72 Win Season
8. Scott Skiles 30 Assists in a game
9. Rasheed Wallace's 41 Technical Fouls in '01
10. Jose Calderon's 98.1 free throw %
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Any others you can think of?
Any of these you think will be broken in our lifetime?
i believe the 33 in a row streak can be broken
the 422 record can be broken
100 points in a game
and 72 might be able to be broken
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 09:15 PM
i believe the 33 in a row streak can be broken
Since they did, only one team has even hit 20 straight.
Seem's really unlikely.
GatorKid117
11-01-2009, 09:23 PM
I would say A.C Green's consecutive game streak of 1,192 games is arguably more unbreakable than Sheed's and maybe Calderon's.
Foster5k
11-01-2009, 09:27 PM
Here is another unbreakable record: [b]15,806 career assist - John Stockton, Utah, 1984-85
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 09:27 PM
I would say A.C Green's consecutive game streak of 1,192 games is arguably more unbreakable than Sheed's and maybe Calderon's.
I thought you were going a different direction when I read AC Green.
Can someone actually get 41 techs now?
Don't the suspensions kick in pretty heavy after 20 T's?
ProfessorMurder
11-01-2009, 09:27 PM
What's the min. amount of FT's that have to be taken?
I was wondering that too. Calderon only took 154 that year.
Maybe you 100 minimum?
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 09:28 PM
I think it's 150. Remember that being the question with him last year.
^^ Then I think it's breakable...:lol
QuebecBaller
11-01-2009, 09:31 PM
I would say A.C Green's consecutive game streak of 1,192 games is arguably more unbreakable than Sheed's and maybe Calderon's.
Somebody know who is the actual Iron man of the league?
noob cake
11-01-2009, 09:32 PM
^^ Then I think it's breakable...:lol
Want to shoot 150 farken free throws in an in-game situation?
Even if you are 95% career free throw shooter, it still is basically statistically impossible.
GatorKid117
11-01-2009, 09:33 PM
I thought you were going a different direction when I read AC Green.
Can someone actually get 41 techs now?
Don't the suspensions kick in pretty heavy after 20 T's?
What did he do something else ridiculous? That's the only thing I know him for, the consecutive game streak.
I didn't think about the suspensions. I don't know how it works. But still, I would take Green's over Calderon's record.
ProfessorMurder
11-01-2009, 09:37 PM
Want to shoot 150 farken free throws in an in-game situation?
Even if you are 95% career free throw shooter, it still is basically statistically impossible.
I think if someone shoots a low number like Calderon did, and has a good shot, they could break it.
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 09:37 PM
AC Green's greatest claim to fame is playing on a team in LA with Magic and Worthy and supposedly being a Virgin all the while.
Want to shoot 150 farken free throws in an in-game situation?
Even if you are 95% career free throw shooter, it still is basically statistically impossible.
Missing 3 on 154 is indeed unrealistic, but not impossible.
You see several players having around 90% every season, and that's because they take much more Ft's than Jose (Ray Allen last year: 237-249), that's pretty close if you ask me.
GatorKid117
11-01-2009, 09:39 PM
AC Green's greatest claim to fame is playing on a team in LA with Magic and Worthy and supposedly being a Virgin all the while.
Haha, I remember that now. Maybe that should be number 1 :D
noob cake
11-01-2009, 09:48 PM
Missing 3 on 154 is indeed unrealistic, but not impossible.
You see several players having around 90% every season, and that's because they take much more Ft's than Jose (Ray Allen last year: 237-249), that's pretty close if you ask me.
Hose's confidence interval
95.18 to 100.00%
Allen's confidence interval
91.68 to 98.68%
This means that Allen is a 91.68% to 98.66% percent free throw shooter, independent of his sample size. Lets assume that he shoots his highest average percentage on every shot for 154 shot. There is only a 0.019% chance of it happening. [Allen doesn't have a chance in breaking Hose's record]
Welcome to Statistics
Hose :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
God-like free throw shooter
ProfessorMurder
11-01-2009, 09:51 PM
Hose's confidence interval
95.18 to 100.00%
Allen's confidence interval
91.68 to 98.68%
This means that Allen is a 91.68% to 98.66% percent free throw shooter, independent of his sample size. Lets assume that he shoots his highest average percentage on every shot for 154 shot. There is only a 0.019% chance of it happening. [Allen doesn't have a chance in breaking Hose's record]
Welcome to Statistics
Hose :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
God-like free throw shooter
That's a chance.
Statistics or no, a player in any season could explode in a category. If someone shoots 86% one year, then works a lot the next could shoot 92%.
Statistics can't tell the future, only guess.
Hose's confidence interval
95.18 to 100.00%
Allen's confidence interval
91.68 to 98.68%
This means that Allen is a 91.68% to 98.66% percent free throw shooter, independent of his sample size. Lets assume that he shoots his highest average percentage on every shot for 154 shot. There is only a 0.019% chance of it happening. [Allen doesn't have a chance in breaking Hose's record]
Welcome to Statistics
Hose :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
God-like free throw shooter
Stats have nothing to do with taking FT's (or at least not that much)
Human emotion, pressure, concentration, talent, potential, etc...that's much more important then guessing how good a guy CAN shoot, and studying his history and seeing how many free throws he took.
The closest thing is 'chance', Calderon will indeed have a much greater chance breaking the 98% record than Lebron or Kobe or any other nba player.
But if a player can shoot 90% for the line, you know he can shoot 95% or even better, 98.2%.
phoenix18
11-01-2009, 09:56 PM
Another list from the Sports Guys New Book; pretty much the one's that come to mind and a few other good ones.
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1. Wilt's 50 per game
2. Wilt's 55 Rebounds in a game
3. Russell's 11 Rings
4. '72 Lakers 33 game win streak.
5. George McGinnis 422 Turnovers
6. Wilt's 100 point game
7. Chicago's 72 Win Season
8. Scott Skiles 30 Assists in a game
9. Rasheed Wallace's 41 Technical Fouls in '01
10. Jose Calderon's 98.1 free throw %
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Any others you can think of?
Any of these you think will be broken in our lifetime?
Get me in the NBA, I can break these.
Allstar24
11-01-2009, 10:03 PM
Nobody will ever break the Lakers 33 game win streak, that record is insane.
magnax1
11-01-2009, 10:23 PM
No way anyone is breaking Wilts career rebounds #. I could see someone (CP3) breaking Skile's assists, and Sheed's tech fouls.
Is Simmon's book any good? I was thinking about getting it.
goldenryan
11-01-2009, 10:31 PM
No way anyone is breaking Wilts career rebounds #. I could see someone (CP3) breaking Skile's assists, and Sheed's tech fouls.
Is Simmon's book any good? I was thinking about getting it.
not in today's post-brawl pc new nba image world.
portland's streak of 21 straight playoff appearances is another record that would be pretty damn hard to beat as well.
Killbot
11-01-2009, 10:35 PM
That's a chance.
Statistics or no, a player in any season could explode in a category. If someone shoots 86% one year, then works a lot the next could shoot 92%.
Statistics can't tell the future, only guess.
Exactly. Remember, experiments can have anomalies or outliers in the data. There's bound to be 1 player in 1 season to make most of his 150+ freethrows.
not in today's post-brawl pc new nba image world.
portland's streak of 21 straight playoff appearances is another record that would be pretty damn hard to beat as well.
Lakers can possibly beat that. They can buy and attract talented players because of history and money.
magnax1
11-01-2009, 10:36 PM
not in today's post-brawl pc new nba image world.
portland's streak of 21 straight playoff appearances is another record that would be pretty damn hard to beat as well.
Well, I think that actually would make it more likely, if sheed went as crazy as he did back then again, he'd probably get more.
I also just found out watching a Jazz game a couple days ago Jerry Sloan has a career 413 technicals from being a coach/player. Doesn't suprise me what so ever, anybody who watches enough Jazz games knows he has to be thrown out at least once every ten games, or less.
Unknown
11-01-2009, 10:38 PM
Easily breakable, just get a GOAT scorer that can't dribble or pass worth ****. Put him on some scrub team and concentrate offense through him.
It's unbreakable because no team would have their players break it anyway. Since 2000 in fact, Allen Iverson is the only name that appears within the top 30 of a 'most turnovers in a season' list and he did it twice (2004, 1997). Yet, he was still 78 turnovers off, or nearly one a game off. The next two players playing after 2000 are Wade and Howard who are off by 101 and 105, respectively.
Unknown
11-01-2009, 10:40 PM
Well, I think that actually would make it more likely, if sheed went as crazy as he did back then again, he'd probably get more.
Heavy game penalties incur after the 15th or 20th (Missing one game after your 15th, 2 after your 16th, etc, etc) technical foul. A player would literally have to be ejected every game. Even then, the NBA board would look closely into suspending a player for the whole season if he was being kicked out of literally every game.
goldenryan
11-01-2009, 10:47 PM
Well, I think that actually would make it more likely, if sheed went as crazy as he did back then again, he'd probably get more.
I also just found out watching a Jazz game a couple days ago Jerry Sloan has a career 413 technicals from being a coach/player. Doesn't suprise me what so ever, anybody who watches enough Jazz games knows he has to be thrown out at least once every ten games, or less.
no the player would just get blackballed (artest) and be forced to cool down so he could stay in the league.
puppychili
11-01-2009, 11:22 PM
No way anyone is breaking Wilts career rebounds #. I could see someone (CP3) breaking Skile's assists, and Sheed's tech fouls.
Is Simmon's book any good? I was thinking about getting it.
I got it on Tuesday. 700 pages and I'm about halfway through. Love it so far. He shyts all over Wilt which was surprising. No one liked Wilt guy was a total stat whore. Interesting tidbit. Wilt wanted to lead the league is assists one year so he hardly shot the ball and would only pass to players who he thought would hit the shot.
G.O.A.T
11-01-2009, 11:42 PM
I got it on Tuesday. 700 pages and I'm about halfway through. Love it so far. He shyts all over Wilt which was surprising. No one liked Wilt guy was a total stat whore. Interesting tidbit. Wilt wanted to lead the league is assists one year so he hardly shot the ball and would only pass to players who he thought would hit the shot.
A lot of people on here need to read this. That 2nd chapter ended any debate on Russell vs. Wilt. If you notice as the book goes on though, Simmons is speaks very glowingly of the significance of Wilts accomplishments, he just correctly points out that anyone and everyone with a brain will take the guy who makes everyone much better and wins over the guy who everyone hates and would rather break records than win.
The quotes from West and Rick Barry were especially harsh.
Second the motion on it being a great read. I just finished the last pyramid chapter, the best one so far.
embersyc
11-02-2009, 01:08 AM
Sheed's wont get broken cause now you get a suspension at 16 techs and another suspension every two techs past 16. So to get to 41 techs you'd have to be suspended for 13 games along the way (I'm sure the team would take disciplinary action well before this). Also the league regularly rescinds technical fouls on players that are close to the 16 tech limit making it even harder.
Duncan21formvp
11-02-2009, 01:11 AM
MJ's 6 finals MVP's. MJ's 25-0 in a series with the same record or better.
MJ's career ppg average in the season and playoffs.
The REAL most unbreakable record:
Thomas Amberry: 2,750 consecutive free throws without a miss.
I'll bet every record falls before that one.
Raider007
11-02-2009, 02:53 AM
Another list from the Sports Guys New Book; pretty much the one's that come to mind and a few other good ones.
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1. Wilt's 50 per game
2. Wilt's 55 Rebounds in a game
3. Russell's 11 Rings
4. '72 Lakers 33 game win streak.
5. George McGinnis 422 Turnovers
6. Wilt's 100 point game
7. Chicago's 72 Win Season
8. Scott Skiles 30 Assists in a game
9. Rasheed Wallace's 41 Technical Fouls in '01
10. Jose Calderon's 98.1 free throw %
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Any others you can think of?
Any of these you think will be broken in our lifetime?
Phil Jackson has 10 rings, 2 more and Russell is out.
snipes12
11-02-2009, 02:55 AM
ac green iron man run
Butters
11-02-2009, 04:52 AM
1. Wilt's 50 per game-nope
2. Wilt's 55 Rebounds in a game-nope
3. Russell's 11 Rings-nope
4. '72 Lakers 33 game win streakyes
5. George McGinnis 422 Turnoversnope
6. Wilt's 100 point gameNo,We have seen MJ and Kobe come threw and the best was 81
7. Chicago's 72 Win Season-yes
8. Scott Skiles 30 Assists in a gameI wan't to say yes but i really don't think so
9. Rasheed Wallace's 41 Technical Fouls in '01-no
10. Jose Calderon's 98.1 free throw %na
Also i think KAJ points record will be broken(LeBron)
Stocktons assist record is safe imo,not sold on steals.
gin17
11-02-2009, 05:16 AM
stockton's assists
sirkeelma
11-02-2009, 05:21 AM
Ron Artest's 73 game suspension
:roll: :roll: :roll:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/f634regi1/041120_ron_artest_hmed6p.jpg
livinglegend
04-10-2016, 10:41 PM
Another list from the Sports Guys New Book; pretty much the one's that come to mind and a few other good ones.
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1. Wilt's 50 per game
2. Wilt's 55 Rebounds in a game
3. Russell's 11 Rings
4. '72 Lakers 33 game win streak.
5. George McGinnis 422 Turnovers
6. Wilt's 100 point game
7. Chicago's 72 Win Season
8. Scott Skiles 30 Assists in a game
9. Rasheed Wallace's 41 Technical Fouls in '01
10. Jose Calderon's 98.1 free throw %
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Any others you can think of?
Any of these you think will be broken in our lifetime?
:no: :no:
IllegalD
04-10-2016, 10:44 PM
Lakers 15-1 playoff record will never be broken.
Kobe Fam stay winning :banana: :bowdown:
enayes
04-10-2016, 10:54 PM
Curry's 3-Point total from this year won't be broken.
Not by him, not by anyone.
EVER.
raprap
04-10-2016, 11:06 PM
I don't think anyone will win all games at home, breaking the 40-1 Celtics record. That's the record, right?
Almost man, almost :(
mr4speed
04-11-2016, 12:16 AM
Another list from the Sports Guys New Book; pretty much the one's that come to mind and a few other good ones.
---------------------------------------------------
1. Wilt's 50 per game
2. Wilt's 55 Rebounds in a game
3. Russell's 11 Rings
4. '72 Lakers 33 game win streak.
5. George McGinnis 422 Turnovers
6. Wilt's 100 point game
7. Chicago's 72 Win Season
8. Scott Skiles 30 Assists in a game
9. Rasheed Wallace's 41 Technical Fouls in '01
10. Jose Calderon's 98.1 free throw %
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Any others you can think of?
Any of these you think will be broken in our lifetime?
I know I'm jumping from the NBA to college, but didn't UCLA win 88 games in a row from Lew Alcindor to Bill Walton under John Wooden? I can't see that falling given the parity in college and players leaving early.
LAZERUSS
04-11-2016, 12:20 AM
I know I'm jumping from the NBA to college, but didn't UCLA win 88 games in a row from Lew Alcindor to Bill Walton under John Wooden? I can't see that falling given the parity in college and players leaving early.
Actually from Wick's '71 team thru Walton's '74 team.
Interesting too that Alcindor's Bruins went 88-2, and their two losses were by margins of 71-69 and 46-44.
greymatter
04-11-2016, 12:36 AM
Not a single one of those listed comes anywhere close to being as unbreakable as Wilt's 48.5 MPG over an entire season while not missing a game.
LAZERUSS
04-11-2016, 12:44 AM
Not a single one of those listed comes anywhere close to being as unbreakable as Wilt's 48.5 MPG over an entire season while not missing a game.
There are a ton of Wilt records that will never be broken.
If you include "streak" records, it would go into the hundreds, if not thousands.
For example...most points in one game...100.
Most points in two consecutive games... 161.
Most points in three consecutive games...226.
Most points in four consecutive games... 293.
Most points in five consecutive games... 351 (think about that... 70.2 ppg in a span of five straight games.)
You could continue that list for his entire '62 season (50.4 ppg for 80 straight games.)
Then you could carry that over for his first 11 seasons (without looking it up...something like 34 ppg in over 700 games.)
Same thing with his rebound records.
And how about playoff records?
Such as most 30-20 playoff seasons. Or most 35-25 playoff seasons. Or most 20-20 playoff seasons. Or most 30-30 playoff series. Or most 35-20 playoff series. Etc., etc.
The man literally holds thousands of NBA records, with too many to even begin to list, and the vast majority are unbreakable.
Psileas
04-11-2016, 04:11 AM
We may replace the Bulls' former record with the most unbreakable record that the Warriors created: Only team not to lose back to back games in an entire season. The only way for a team to break it is to go 82-0.
oarabbus
04-11-2016, 04:25 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but Harden is pushing 400 TOs. Maybe in a future season he can break the record?
Im Still Ballin
04-11-2016, 04:50 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but Harden is pushing 400 TOs. Maybe in a future season he can break the record?
He did it
Your alltime turnover in one season
J-Harden
jstern
04-11-2016, 04:59 AM
Last night I was thinking of Googling one of these threads in which I said that the Bulls 72-10 record will be broken, because the league has too many teams. Which means that in a year where the league is weak as a whole, a really good team can break it.
But to me the Warriors kind of have an *, because of the copying Popovich era where half of the teams are resting and not taking the regular season seriously, and because of all the illegal screens and ref help during many close games.
This Warrior's record will be broken. If they get 73 wins.
Genaro
04-11-2016, 05:15 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but Harden is pushing 400 TOs. Maybe in a future season he can break the record?
370, he broke the total record. But I don't think he will get the most TO per game record.
riseagainst
04-11-2016, 01:43 PM
:bowdown:
HighFlyer23
04-11-2016, 02:24 PM
55 rebounds by Wilt .... lol
L.Kizzle
04-12-2016, 04:10 AM
88 game season by Walt Bellamy.
JebronLames
04-12-2016, 06:56 AM
Lebron 12 straight seasons of 25+ ppg and 6+ apg
CP3PO
04-12-2016, 08:51 AM
Another list from the Sports Guys New Book; pretty much the one's that come to mind and a few other good ones.
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1. Wilt's 50 per game
2. Wilt's 55 Rebounds in a game
3. Russell's 11 Rings
4. '72 Lakers 33 game win streak.
5. George McGinnis 422 Turnovers
6. Wilt's 100 point game
7. Chicago's 72 Win Season
8. Scott Skiles 30 Assists in a game
9. Rasheed Wallace's 41 Technical Fouls in '01
10. Jose Calderon's 98.1 free throw %
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Any others you can think of?
Any of these you think will be broken in our lifetime?
That didn't take long :banana:
Sarcastic
04-12-2016, 09:43 AM
That didn't take long :banana:
They didn't break it yet.
Duffy Pratt
04-12-2016, 02:08 PM
Wilts season record for minutes played. 3882, which averages to 48.5 minutes per game. The only player from post 1980 in the top 50 is Iverson with under 3500. This one is pretty safe.
Wilts season record for minutes played. 3882, which averages to 48.5 minutes per game. The only player from post 1980 in the top 50 is Iverson with under 3500. This one is pretty safe.
How many overtimes:biggums:
Done_And_Done
04-12-2016, 02:13 PM
I don't think anyone will win all games at home, breaking the 40-1 Celtics record. That's the record, right?
Spurs came close...
LAZERUSS
04-12-2016, 02:19 PM
How many overtimes:biggums:
I won't take the time to look it up...but here is all you really need to know.
Chamberlain missed a total of a little over 8 minutes of play...the entire season. AND, the reason he missed those was that he was ejected in a game (didn't foul out, he was ejected.) In other words,he was 8 minutes away from playing every minute of every game that season.
I won't take the time to look it up...but here is all you really need to know.
Chamberlain missed a total of a little over 8 minutes of play...the entire season. AND, the reason he missed those was that he was ejected in a game (didn't foul out, he was ejected.)
Damn, what a goat.
What did he get ejected for?
HurricaneKid
04-12-2016, 02:42 PM
Damn, what a goat.
What did he get ejected for?
The ref's wife was 1/10,000
LAZERUSS
04-12-2016, 02:43 PM
Damn, what a goat.
What did he get ejected for?
B2B techs.
He was also ejected in a game the next season, as well, with THREE technical...but it came early in the game, and it screwed up some of his scoring and rebounding streaks.
!@#$%Vectors!@#
04-12-2016, 02:44 PM
I won't take the time to look it up...but here is all you really need to know.
Chamberlain missed a total of a little over 8 minutes of play...the entire season. AND, the reason he missed those was that he was ejected in a game (didn't foul out, he was ejected.) In other words,he was 8 minutes away from playing every minute of every game that season.
Someone dig up his corpse and clone this man.
No matter how much we shit on him here cause of u 60's stans WILT is a hell of a specimen.
Overdrive
04-12-2016, 03:05 PM
Spurs came close...
Crazy that it came down to sunday's game who has the chance to/breaks an seemingly unbeatable all time record.
I know you are
04-12-2016, 03:41 PM
Spurs came close...
Warriors and Spurs both came close. I think seeing 2 teams in 1 season get within 2 weeks of breaking that record means it will eventually happen.
T_L_P
04-12-2016, 04:32 PM
I don't see anyone beating the Spurs 50 game win streak run (17 years and counting) soon.
Dr Seuss
04-12-2016, 04:37 PM
I don't see anyone beating the Spurs 50 game win streak run (17 years and counting) soon.
aiint nobody got time for that
greymatter
04-12-2016, 10:57 PM
There are a ton of Wilt records that will never be broken.
If you include "streak" records, it would go into the hundreds, if not thousands.
For example...most points in one game...100.
Most points in two consecutive games... 161.
Most points in three consecutive games...226.
Most points in four consecutive games... 293.
Most points in five consecutive games... 351 (think about that... 70.2 ppg in a span of five straight games.)
You could continue that list for his entire '62 season (50.4 ppg for 80 straight games.)
Then you could carry that over for his first 11 seasons (without looking it up...something like 34 ppg in over 700 games.)
Same thing with his rebound records.
And how about playoff records?
Such as most 30-20 playoff seasons. Or most 35-25 playoff seasons. Or most 20-20 playoff seasons. Or most 30-30 playoff series. Or most 35-20 playoff series. Etc., etc.
The man literally holds thousands of NBA records, with too many to even begin to list, and the vast majority are unbreakable.
Those you listed are a function of the game's pace as well as just Wilt's stat-padding dominance. As impressive as they are, they don't begin to illustrate what was even more impressive: Wilt's superhuman stamina and durability.
Duffy Pratt
04-12-2016, 11:17 PM
Another untouchable Wilt record: 1045 regular season games without fouling out.
LAZERUSS
04-12-2016, 11:33 PM
Those you listed are a function of the game's pace as well as just Wilt's stat-padding dominance. As impressive as they are, they don't begin to illustrate what was even more impressive: Wilt's superhuman stamina and durability.
Perhaps, but why was it ONLY Chamberlain who was putting up those unfathomable records? Think about this...a peak Kareem played four years in the Chamberlain-era, and never approached Wilt's scoring, rebounding, or FG% records (nor his shot-blocking, which had Wilt, in his last year, at 5.4 bpg.)
And Wilt's '69-70 season will forever be a "what-if" season, as well. Why? Because Wilt's new coach that year, Joe Mullaney, asked the 33 year-old Wilt to become the focal point of the offense. And Chamberlain responded by leading the league in ppg in his first nine games (32.2 ppg on a .579 FG%, to go along with 20.6 rpg.)
And that scoring was not inflated by one-or-two big games, but rather a consistent rate. He had games of 33 (more on that in a moment), 35, 37 (against 7-0 Tom Boerwinkle...who used to give KAJ fits), 38 (against reigning MVP Wes Unseld), 42 (against Bob Rule...go ahead and look him up), and 43 (against Dierking, which was nowhere near Wilt's career high against him, BUT, was more than a peak Kareem would score against him in their career matchups.)
Oh, and in their one H2H before Wilt shredded his knee, he easily outplayed Kareem (Alcindor)...outscoring him, 25-23; outrebounding him, 25-20; outassisting him, 5-2; outblocking him, 3-2 (including two skyhooks); and outshooting him from the field, 9-14 to 9-21.
As for that 33 point game..it was the game in which Chamberlain blew out his knee. He had hung those 33 points in 28 minutes of play (and on 13-14 shooting)...and was easily on his way to a 40+ point game. In fact, he was on pace for a 50 point game (and just the year before he had hung a 66 point game on that same team.)
So, assuming that Wilt would have scored 50 that night...instead of averaging 32.2 ppg, he would have been up to 34.1 ppg (and likely with a higher FG% than .579, and a higher rpg average than his 20.6.)
Then think about this...a peak Kareem, just two years later, would average a career-high 34.8 ppg (on a .574 FG%, and with 16.6 rpg.) So, here was a 33 year old Wilt, and past his peak, putting up a pace that would have equalled Kareem's greatest season (actually surpassed it when you factor in FG% and rpg...and easily defense.)
And before someone disparages that era, a 38-39 year old KAJ, who couldn't jump over a matchstick, battled a 22-23 year old Hakeem in ten straight H2H games, and averaged 32 ppg on a .630 FG% against him in that span. Included were three games of 40, 43, and 46 (and in only 37 minutes, and on 21-30 shooting.) In fact, the very next year, a 40 year old Kareem outscored a 24 year old Hakeem in their four H2H's, and outshot him from the floor by a .567 to .403 margin. Oh, and in the same week he plastered Hakeem with that 46 point game, he carpet-bombed Patrick Ewing with a 40 point game, on 15-22 shooting (Ewing scored nine points on 3-17 from the field.)
I mentioned Wilt's 66 point game. Again, it was one of two 60+ point games in his 68-69 season, and again, was just the year before Kareem arrived. Oh, and it is still the record for FG% efficiency in a 60+ point game (an .829 FG%... 29-35 from the floor.) And how about this... Kobe took 46 FGAs in his 81 point game. If Wilt would have taken 46 FGAs in his 66 point game, he was on pace to make 38 of them, or 76 points...plus his 8 pts from the line...or 84 points.
Incidently, KAJ played 20 years in the league, and his high game was 55 points.
And how about Chamberlain's post-season rebounding in his last season, and at age 36 (nearly 37.) He played 47.1 mpg in his 17 post-season games (which BTW, was below his career playoff average of 47.2 mpg), and averaged 22.5 rpg. In a post-season NBA that averaged 50.6 rpg per team. How impressive was that? The next best post-season since, was Kevin Garnett's 18.7 rpg, which BTW, occurred in only three games. The next best mark since, was KAJ's '77 post-season, in 11 playoff games, of 17.3 rpg.
Most rational Wilt fans will acknowledge that Chamberlain's scoring and rebounding numbers were somewhat inflated by pace (and his mpg), but think about this...
Demarcus Cousins is averaging 26.9 ppg in 34.6 mpg this season. Assuming he could play for 40 mpg, that would come out to 31.1 ppg.
And Andre Drummond is averaging 14.8 rpg in his 32.9 mpg. Assuming he could play 40 mpg, he would be averaging an even 18 rpg.
And those are for 40 mpg. Wilt was playing 46 mpg in his career. Is there any doubt that he could have played 42+ today? Oh, and then how about this? Clearly, a Wilt only playing 40-42 mpg, would be more have to be more efficient at shooting and rebounding, than a Chamberlain playing 48 mpg, right?
Finally, Chamberlain's FG% efficiency, as compared to the league average, was just staggering. For instance, in his '66 season, he averaged 33.5 ppg on a .540 FG%, in a league that shot .433. His very next season, he averaged 24.1 ppg, on a .683 FG%, in a league that shot .441. And in his last season, he averaged 13.2 ppg on a .727 FG%, in a league that shot .456.
So, if we are going to use pace against Wilt, then you have to factor in league-wide efficiency, as well. Today's NBA is shooting an eFG% of .502. Let's plug in Wilt's '66 season of .540, shall we? Wilt's .540 jumps to .626. His '67 season goes from .683 to .777. And his .727 season becomes an eye-popping .800!
Sure, much of that is hypothetical, but it does give the reasonably intelligent basketball fan an educated estimate of what a peak Chamberlain would be putting up in say 42 mpg in today's NBA. Somewhere along the lines of 30-35 ppg, 18-20 rpg, and on a .600+ FG%.
LAZERUSS
04-13-2016, 12:13 AM
Another untouchable Wilt record: 1045 regular season games without fouling out.
Moses broke that record at 1212 straight...albeit he did foul out in his career, while Chamberlain did not.
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