Chris Paul Has To Be Restrained From Entering Boston's Locker Room

[MMM]

Paul Has To Be Restrained From Entering Boston's Locker Room (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=291101002)

Seems like a PG rivalry is brewing.

[Thechosen1]

before the cp3 haters which is like 95 percent of ISH come in

cp3 is pissed at rondo because of a comment rondo said of him before the game saying..."he only gets his stats because he has the ball in his hands all the time"....

cp3 aint gonna let that slide....and sadly he has to have bull**** teamates that cant help the dude win a game he played well in...smh

[Quizno]

a point guard rivalry between Chris Paul and Rajon Rondo? :oldlol: That's not a rivalry, that's an oppression

[MMM]

a point guard rivalry between Chris Paul and Rajon Rondo? :oldlol: That's not a rivalry, that's an oppression

no doubt CP3 is better but Rondo can hold his own with him from time to time. I do remember him out playing Paul last year and I don't believe KG played in that game.

[HylianNightmare]

paul would wreck rondo

[lilmagicjohnson]

CP3 is mad overrated as a superstar i cant think of any other superstar that would let his team lost by 60 points at home in the playoffs not even Dirk

[branslowski]

Truth hurts...:rolleyes:



If only he showed this much fight in that playoff game where they lost by......:oldlol:

[cotdt]

Chris Paul should have knocked Rondo out during the game.

[DuMa]

its funny to hear rondo say that since he almost dominates the ball as CP3 does.

[branslowski]

CP3 is mad overrated as a superstar i cant think of any other superstar that would let his team lost by 60 points at home in the playoffs not even Dirk

:no: It wasn't even that many points...Your disrespecting Paul here...No superstar player would let his team lose by 60pts..

[yobore]

lol chosenone unless Paul is dumber than a rock I doubt he got that mad just because of Rondo's comments. They probably said a lot more things to eachother on the court. But then you never know some of these guys arent the sharpest

[MMM]

its funny to hear rondo say that since he almost dominates the ball as CP3 does.

playing with the big 3 Rondo doesn't nearly have the ball as much as he should.

[dr8ked]

before the cp3 haters which is like 95 percent of ISH come in

cp3 is pissed at rondo because of a comment rondo said of him before the game saying..."he only gets his stats because he has the ball in his hands all the time"....

cp3 aint gonna let that slide....and sadly he has to have bull**** teamates that cant help the dude win a game he played well in...smh
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: aint a PG supposed to have the Ball most of the time, just like rondo does ?? Last year there was nobody qualified to handle the Ball in NOLA. Daniels and Devin brown sucked whenever CP3 went to the bench. The bobby brown addition this year is better. Cp3 was on the bench most of the 1st
and 4th Qtr today.

[HylianNightmare]

paul would wreck him

[yobore]

:no: It wasn't even that many points...Your disrespecting Paul here...No superstar player would let his team lose by 60pts..
so 56 points is ok but 60 is drawing the line?

[branslowski]

so 56 points is ok but 60 is drawing the line?

Exactly...

[hoopaddict08]

Rondo is an idiot to make a comment such as that, due to the fact that he is playing on a loaded team. Would his stats be nearly as good on a team like the Bobcats?

[MMM]

Rondo is an idiot to make a comment such as that, due to the fact that he is playing on a loaded team. Would his stats be nearly as good on a team like the Bobcats?

it is hard to tell but I don't think his overall stats/impact would be hurt that significantly. He would probably avg more points but less assist.

[Carbine]

Rondo is an idiot to make a comment such as that, due to the fact that he is playing on a loaded team. Would his stats be nearly as good on a team like the Bobcats?


If he was asked to do more, and had the green light to take 15 shots a game, his per game averages would be higher.

Playing with great players usually hurt your per game averages, whereas playing on crap teams make the per game averages spike a bit for the stars of the team.

[juju151111]

Truth hurts...:rolleyes:



If only he showed this much fight in that playoff game where they lost by......:oldlol:
Give him some help first. If Rondo was on the hrnets he would need to avg 20+ ppg. And he can't shoot.

[Showtime]

Jesus Christ, why are people still blaming that huge loss on Paul? I'm wondering if those idiots even watched the game. Because if they did, they would have seen Paul struggle to get his plays set up, and not shoot that much. But they would have also seen that the vast majority of points Denver scored did not come on Paul's defensive errors. The Nuggets were blasting the poor defense of Paul's supporting cast, and their defensive pressure was exposing Scott's vanilla offense and the lack of playmakers aside from Paul and West on the hornets. Laying the blame of that loss at Paul's feet is ignorant, because it takes entire teams to win big, and entire teams to lose big as well. The HORNETS got blasted by a superior NUGGET team, it wasn't Paul solely responsible for the meltdown. He certainly has his own share of responsibility, but he can't be held responsible for everything that happens on the court.

[KG5MVP]

so 56 points is ok but 60 is drawing the line?

he was being sarcastic idiot

[henbus33]

this is a good time to bring up the jealous argument. chris paul is jealous of all the attention rondo has been getting. this guy rondo is on tv every other night getting all the spotlight. the announcers arent talking about kg , pierce, or allen, (theres nothing else to talk about with those guys) they're talking about the new phenom rajon rondo. chris paul hates that because he feels he should be in the spotlight since to him he is clearly the better player

[beasted86]

New Orleans has one of the worst benches... and their SG rotation is pretty putrid right now.

On nights West, and Okafor have bad games, it canget really ugly for Chris Paul. He'll basically have to do everything himself.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Rondo was in his ear all game talking trash.

[imdaman99]

Truth hurts...:rolleyes:



If only he showed this much fight in that playoff game where they lost by......:oldlol:
How many points did the Lakers lose by in Game 6 of the 2008 NBA Finals?

My point is, sometimes the superstars don't get any help from their teammates.

[spursdynasty420]

rondo is an idiot for saying what he said

with that being said

paul is a joke and i wish he had a different brain its so hard to root for an ass hole.

you really think parker or duncan would retaliate the way paul does?? They just go about business.

paul is emotional and its gonna hurt him when it comes to winning a championship

[phoenix18]

Chris Paul is a much better player, MVP candidate and Rondo could only dream to be able to carry a load as heavy as CP3. No one wants to have to do that much to win, but he has to. Look at his team. Without him, I would really have to question if they win more than 10 games. He does everything for them, including the laundry.

Rondo is a good player, but he is playing with a Fantasy draft team along side of him.

I hope Chris goes off the rest of the season. He seems like the type.

[henbus33]

Rondo was in his ear all game talking trash.

kevin garnett turns teammates into great players but at the same time turns them into horrible human beings :lol

[spursrule]

Ha Ha, I am no Chris Paul fan, but when Rondo is playing for Memphis next year, we will see how much trash talk he has. :cheers:

[imdaman99]

rondo is an idiot for saying what he said

with that being said

paul is a joke and i wish he had a different brain its so hard to root for an ass hole.

you really think parker or duncan would retaliate the way paul does?? They just go about business.

paul is emotional and its gonna hurt him when it comes to winning a championship
Excuse us if not every player in the league is as boring and emotion-less as the Spurs' players are.

Paul is a kid and undoubtedly needs to grow up. But I know for a fact I wouldn't appreciate an ugly cheapshot artist attack my game and my stats before a game when he is clearly jealous of the attention I receive.

[MMM]

Rondo did not even say anything publicly he said it in a private conversation which Perkins leaked.

[RajonKGcelts]

what a winey *****, let it go, he should know its true. i wish rondo mentioned the fact that half of chris pauls steals are complete crap too

[spursdynasty420]

rondo is an idiot for saying what he said

with that being said

paul is a joke and i wish he had a different brain its so hard to root for an ass hole.

you really think parker or duncan would retaliate the way paul does?? They just go about business.

paul is emotional and its gonna hurt him when it comes to winning a championship

[phoenix18]

what a winey *****, let it go, he should know its true. i wish rondo mentioned the fact that half of chris pauls steals are complete crap too
Please. Rondo slaps people in the face and says he is going for the ball. Now that is complete crap. Look, I love both players, but Rondo should not say anything to Paul. Its just wrong. The man is that team. He is playing with broken pieces. Not fair. Put CP3 on Boston and they are a 67 win team. Put Rondo on the Hornets and they only win 20 games.

[spursdynasty420]

Excuse us if not every player in the league is as boring and emotion-less as the Spurs' players are.

Paul is a kid and undoubtedly needs to grow up. But I know for a fact I wouldn't appreciate an ugly cheapshot artist attack my game and my stats before a game when he is clearly jealous of the attention I receive.

there is a difference in being a WHINEY ***** ^ then getting pumped up after you hit a shot or when you do good. spurs are not emotionless. you must have never seen any of our playoff games.

[phoenix18]

rondo is an idiot for saying what he said

with that being said

paul is a joke and i wish he had a different brain its so hard to root for an ass hole.

you really think parker or duncan would retaliate the way paul does?? They just go about business.

paul is emotional and its gonna hurt him when it comes to winning a championship

I am trying to remember the last time Duncan and Parker did not have the luxury of an at least average team. Look at the Hornets w/o CP3. Wasteland. Old Peja, Slaps a lot West and Okafor? :violin:

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

playing with the big 3 Rondo doesn't nearly have the ball as much as he should.

This is a lie. He has the ball more than any other PG not named Paul, Williams or Nash.

[spursdynasty420]

I am trying to remember the last time Duncan and Parker did not have the luxury of an at least average team. Look at the Hornets w/o CP3. Wasteland. Old Peja, Slaps a lot West and Okafor? :violin:

yah well im not gonna sit here and say i wished spurs had terrible teams.

[MK2V1GP]

LOL @ all the CP3 defenders here. Its true. CP3 always has the ball in his hands. I'm not saying Rondo is better, but to say he'd "wreck" Rondo is absurd. Rondo has outplayed CP3 a number of games.

And why do players do this? Do they think they're going to get past security/team personnel? And even if they did, what would he do??? Nothing. You really think ONE opposing player will go into an opponent's lockerroom and try and start something? THAT is incredibly stupid.

[MK2V1GP]

kevin garnett turns teammates into great players but at the same time turns them into horrible human beings :lol
Sooo, according to you:

Trash talkers=horrible human beings.


Thanks for sharing your stupidity, moron.

[MK2V1GP]

Please. Rondo slaps people in the face and says he is going for the ball. Now that is complete crap. Look, I love both players, but Rondo should not say anything to Paul. Its just wrong. The man is that team. He is playing with broken pieces. Not fair. Put CP3 on Boston and they are a 67 win team. Put Rondo on the Hornets and they only win 20 games.

LOL!!! The C's did win close to 67 games two years ago, and they may win that many, if not more, with Rondo at the helm. And with the way the Hornets are looking, it looks like they might only win 20-30 games. So your statement, fails.

[henbus33]

LOL @ all the CP3 defenders here. Its true. CP3 always has the ball in his hands. I'm not saying Rondo is better, but to say he'd "wreck" Rondo is absurd. Rondo has outplayed CP3 a number of games.

And why do players do this? Do they think they're going to get past security/team personnel? And even if they did, what would he do??? Nothing. You really think ONE opposing player will go into an opponent's lockerroom and try and start something? THAT is incredibly stupid.

trust me guys like kg wont come to rondo's aid. we all know that kg is a ***** when the cameras arent running, so yeah paul would have a free lane to rondo

[KG5MVP]

what happened, what did rondo say and what did paul do?

[henbus33]

what happened, what did rondo say and what did paul do?

rondo said to paul, "youre too ugly to be a superstar". paul obviously took offense lol

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

trust me guys like kg wont come to rondo's aid. we all know that kg is a ***** when the cameras arent running, so yeah paul would have a free lane to rondo I guarantee Paul wouldn't have even entered the C's locker room if he had a free lane and nobody was holding him back.

[branslowski]

Chris Paul better thank the security who stopped him..Because im pretty confident KG would have possibly bit him in the neck if he invaded the locker room..

[henbus33]

Chris Paul better thank the security who stopped him..Because im pretty confident KG would have possibly bit him in the neck if he invaded the locker room..

or kicked him in the balls. same with paul pierce

[RajonKGcelts]

Please. Rondo slaps people in the face and says he is going for the ball. Now that is complete crap. Look, I love both players, but Rondo should not say anything to Paul. Its just wrong. The man is that team. He is playing with broken pieces. Not fair. Put CP3 on Boston and they are a 67 win team. Put Rondo on the Hornets and they only win 20 games.

Im not saying ROndos better, i'm just sayin he was asked the question before the game. I honestly don't think he meant it ina horrible way, i mean its true sn't it?

[phoenix18]

LOL!!! The C's did win close to 67 games two years ago, and they may win that many, if not more, with Rondo at the helm. And with the way the Hornets are looking, it looks like they might only win 20-30 games. So your statement, fails.
See how we are not talking about two years ago? If so, Paul would have been winning as well! Secondly, I did not say that the Hornets w/ Rondo would win 20-30 games, I said 20.20.20. I was actually giving them some credit with that prediction, I was really going to say 13.

[henbus33]

Im not saying ROndos better, i'm just sayin he was asked the question before the game. I honestly don't think he meant it ina horrible way, i mean its true sn't it?

its also true that rondo is playing with 3 future hall of famers and that could be the reason why he is so great but you dont hear chris paul mentioning that

[KG5MVP]

rondo said to paul, "youre too ugly to be a superstar". paul obviously took offense lol

lol gj rondo

[Showtime]

rondo is an idiot for saying what he said

with that being said

paul is a joke and i wish he had a different brain its so hard to root for an ass hole.

you really think parker or duncan would retaliate the way paul does?? They just go about business.

paul is emotional and its gonna hurt him when it comes to winning a championship
As if emotional players never won anything...

[MK2V1GP]

See how we are not talking about two years ago? If so, Paul would have been winning as well! Secondly, I did not say that the Hornets w/ Rondo would win 20-30 games, I said 20.20.20. I was actually giving them some credit with that prediction, I was really going to say 13.

Whatever you say chump. Point is, you know I'm right.

[yeaaaman]

its also true that rondo is playing with 3 future hall of famers and that could be the reason why he is so great but you dont hear chris paul mentioning that

Exactly

[godofgods]

CP3 is mad overrated as a superstar i cant think of any other superstar that would let his team lost by 60 points at home in the playoffs not even Kobe

Fixed that for you.

[bdreason]

I'de like to see Rondo run this Hornets squad... he'd probably average 10 turnovers a game if he had to handle the ball as much as CP3.


And it's already been proven many times that the Hornets have one of the slowest paced offenses in the league. CP3 gets his stats because nobody else on that team is any good (outside of West).

[lbj23clutch]

:no: It wasn't even that many points...Your disrespecting Paul here...No superstar player would let his team lose by 60pts..
No superstar lets their team lose by 40 points in the clinching game of the FINALS. No superstar lets their team blow a 30 point lead at HOME and end up lose the game in the NBA FINALS. The biggest ****ing stage in the league.:oldlol:


See how stupid your logic is? Both CP3 and Kobe are great superstars, but there's no need to rip CP3 for bieng frustrated.

[Showtime]

Never is there a wise time to test the tolerance of the planet’s best point guard, but Rajon Rondo(notes) has that irritating ability to push people’s patience to the brink. The sluggish state of the New Orleans Hornets had Chris Paul(notes) seething on Sunday night, his mood even edgier with a report that Rondo had privately disparaged Paul’s talents within the Boston Celtics’ locker room.

Chris Paul and the Hornets have lost three of their first four games after reaching the West semifinals two seasons ago.

Beyond the charming smile and gentlemanly disposition, Paul has a tenacious will and a terrific temper. Beyond it all, he’s downright ferocious.

So, here was Rondo surrounded with an embarrassment of point guard riches – K.G., Paul Pierce(notes) and Ray Allen(notes), a championship banner and a fat, new $55 million contract. Rondo felt emboldened, eager to engage Paul. The procession of trash talk, sources said, pushed into the personal when Rondo was heard to tell Paul, “I’ve got a ring, and you’re never gonna win one.”

As they traded technical fouls at the Boston Garden, as emotions escalated, sources said Rondo declared that Paul wished he could be him, suggesting that his frustration dripped with envy. On the way to the locker room, Hornets coach Byron Scott heard Paul insist that Rondo “is gonna respect me as a man,” and soon Paul started on his way down the corridor to tell the Celtics point guard himself.

Several coaches prevented Paul from getting close to Rondo outside the Celtics’ locker room, but the overriding theme of Paul’s rage was easily understood: Before you talk trash again, feel free to walk a mile in my Brand Jordan’s.

“If Rondo had to trade in K.G., Pierce, Ray and Rasheed for the guys that Chris plays with [in New Orleans], I guarantee that you wouldn’t be seeing Rondo get a $55 million contract,” one Hornets source said.

Twenty-four hours later on Monday night, Paul played brilliantly – 32 points and 13 assists – and still the Hornets lost again. This time, it was to the pitiful New York Knicks, 117-111 at Madison Square Garden. When someone suggested the Hornets could lose contact with contenders like the Los Angeles Lakers and San Antonio Spurs in the Western Conference, that the Hornets didn’t want to be a seventh or eighth seed, Paul responded in a most truthful way. “Man,” he said, “we want to get to the playoffs.”

The Hornets are no longer contending with the elite of the West, but fighting to simply make the playoffs. There’s an arms race of payroll and facilities the Hornets haven’t joined under penny-pinching owner George Shinn. Shinn doesn’t have the resources to chase championships, and never will.

The owner runs the Hornets like a mom-and-pop operation, with his son-in-law and son in high-ranking jobs, with the most bare-boned front office and scouting staffs in the NBA. The Hornets have plans for a new practice facility, but currently play in a dumpy community center best suited for the bird and reptile shows that cover most of its calendar. It speaks to Paul’s character, his loyalty, that he signed a three-year extension with New Orleans in 2008.

This is a treacherous time for the 24-year-old Paul, a crossroads for a career that’s at the mercy of circumstances beyond his control. At a time when his twentysomething all-world peers – LeBron James(notes) and Dwyane Wade(notes), Dwight Howard(notes) and Carmelo Anthony(notes) – play for committed organizations with serious owners, the faulty infrastructure of Shinn’s flimsy franchise has undermined Paul’s championship ambitions.

“I’m envious,” Paul said. “I’m very envious. Those guys have been where I want to get to. This is my fifth year in the league, and I’m not trying to wait until I’m an old veteran in this league to win a championship. We’re trying to win now.”

They’re trying, but Paul knows that his general manager, Jeff Bower, has to trim $3 million off the payroll to dodge the luxury tax. The Hornets can’t win a playoff series as constructed, and deep down Paul understands his greatness is born of his passing and playmaking, born of elevating those around him. He can score, but that’ll never be the way the Hornets win with him.

“I’m a point guard,” he said. “I can’t score the ball like Carmelo, LeBron and D-Wade. At the end of the day, it’s always going to be a team thing with us, with me getting guys involved.”

Paul’s unselfishness has always spilled out of the gymnasium. He was raised to honor loyalty and still treats his alma mater, Wake Forest, and that Winston-Salem community with incredible generosity. He believed he had a responsibility to be a part of the rebuilding of New Orleans’ pride, its city.

From an empty arena, Paul saved the New Orleans Hornets the way that LSU’s own Pistol Pete Maravich could never save the New Orleans Jazz. He turned David West(notes) into an All-Star and resurrected Tyson Chandler’s(notes) career. No player – not LeBron, not D-Wade – means more to a team, a franchise.

Shinn is a farce, forever insisting that his moral compass brought the franchise back from exile in Oklahoma City, but truth be told he never wanted to return. The NBA pushed him into New Orleans, understanding it would’ve been a Page Ranking nightmare to abandon the post-Katrina city. That’s Shinn, the ultimate front-runner. He now takes bows for the Hornets’ popularity, but it’s laughable.

Every star in the NBA would be crying for help, would be demanding higher payroll and a higher caliber of teammate. Tell Paul about the payroll escalation with San Antonio and Dallas in the Southwest Division and he never, ever bites. There’s enough in this locker room to win, he will tell you, even if deep down he has his own doubts. Yet, he understands he has to convince his teammates that he believes to ever have a chance to get the most out of them.

“Hey, I’m going to be a team guy,” he said. “Anytime something happens, I’m going to have my guys’ backs. …When I talk to Jeff [Bower], it’s all about, ‘What can we do with the guys that we have?’ ”

In every way, this makes him the rarest of franchise players. Paul understands that it’s his responsibility, a burden assumed in good times and bad. It’s noble for him, and, yet sadly, it probably puts him at a competitive disadvantage. Paul’s never made demands on Hornets ownership, that way that LeBron does with Cleveland, the way that Tim Duncan(notes) did with San Antonio.
Chris Paul's recent standoff with Rajon Rondo started when the Celtics point guard told him he won't win a championship.

Sometimes, a star has to hold his franchise accountable in public and private. Sometimes, he has to keep the fear of him leaving in free agency – or forcefully demanding a trade – to keep everyone honest and accountable. He has a good GM and a winning coach on his side, but the Hornets need bigger budgets for scouting and assistant coaches. They’re a mid-major trying to compete with BCS powers, and Paul is the star quarterback with too little offensive line protection, too few playmakers to catch the ball.

Outside the visiting locker room on Monday night, on his walk to visit with family on the trip, Paul conceded, “This [franchise] is still a work in progress. We’re still an organization that’s trying to get up … ”

For now, Paul has never been so frustrated. He has no patience for losing. Baseball season still isn’t over and the losing, the non-competitiveness of his team, is taking its toll. He lost his cool with Rondo, and appeared to swipe at Al Harrington’s(notes) head on the floor while chasing a loose ball Monday. Paul had no use for Rondo, but the partial noogie that he gave Harrington, a friend, was clearly a misdemeanor of passion.

The NBA is investigating the Rondo matter, CBS Sportsline reported, but it’s doubtful anything punitive will come of it. After the game Sunday night, Celtics guard Ray Allen walked into the Hornets’ locker room, witnesses said, and all but expressed his embarrassment for Rondo’s increasingly tired act.

Still, those words from Rondo had to hit Chris Paul like a freight train – You’ll never win a ring – because so much of success in this sport is born out of circumstance and good fortune. Rondo stumbled into the Big 3 in Boston for a championship, and Paul ended up with the Celtics’ leftover sixth man, James Posey(notes), who can barely function on the floor this season.

Chris Paul is the planet’s best point guard and wouldn’t need that staggering array of talent surrounding Rondo to win titles of his own.

When asked how difficult mediocrity could get for him this season, asked how he would ever stand for it, Paul said, “Let me say this: I want to win.”

His eyes were wide now, and he wanted his point understood. “I … want … to … win. Whatever it takes me to do, I’m going to find a way.”

As a leader, that’s his burden. As a pragmatic basketball mind, it’s ultimately unrealistic. He needs more help. He needs a level plane. For now, Chris Paul isn’t chasing championships in New Orleans. He’s chasing windmills. He’s just trying to get back to .500, just trying to make the playoffs. Bring Rondo and his tough-talking mouth to New Orleans, and, well, the $55 million point guard would look like he’s lording over the Sacramento Kings. Before you talk your trash again, feel free to walk a season in Chris Paul’s Brand Jordans.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=At6eL0c88AS0Sd7tdMt5D.C8vLYF?slug=aw-paulhornets110309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Kiddlovesnets]

A rivalry? Are you kidding me? It is so disrespectful to even compare a player like Rondo to a top 10 PG in NBA history.
:no:

[RajonKGcelts]

Theres nothing wrong with trash talk. Pauls just a *****. If he's unhappy on that team, don't resign and wait till you can leave.

[Real Men Wear Green]

[QUOTE]Chris Paul is the planet

[Mechanixxxx]

switch them up...just one game...

[artificial]

I don't know what happened during the game, but Rondo clearly went after Paul to tell him something after the game was finished, which looks like it was what got the worst out of Paul. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbtokYW98is)

Trash talk is fine as an ingame strategy. And once the game is finished, no need to be friends, but going directly to another player to talk sh*t after everything is settled? Well...

Both Rondo and Paul have grown reputations of being annoying characters on the court, but if Rondo actually went over to Paul to tell him about the rings after the game, then he went overboard.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Chris Paul is a hundred times better than Rondo and that gap will never close. Rondo needs to keep his mouth shut and respect his peers in the league, especially ones so much better than he is. I can't believe anyone would even compare the two to be honest.

CP3 is averaging 21ppg more than Rondo is for crying out loud.

[Juges8932]

I respect Paul and I can definitely understand his frustration. He is doing everything he can to win, and they just aren't. His team sucks. I wish he hadn't signed that extension. He deserves better. I've never liked Rondo, and I don't think I ever will.

[Showtime]

I don't know what happened during the game, but Rondo clearly went after Paul to tell him something after the game was finished, which looks like it was what got the worst out of Paul. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbtokYW98is)

Trash talk is fine as an ingame strategy. And once the game is finished, no need to be friends, but going directly to another player to talk sh*t after everything is settled? Well...

Both Rondo and Paul have grown reputations of being annoying characters on the court, but if Rondo actually went over to Paul to tell him about the rings after the game, then he went overboard.
Go to the previous page. I posted an article which explained what Rondo said to set CP off.

[spursdynasty420]

rondo and paul need to grow up. sad

[Styles p]

i heard they got the towel boy to hold cp3 back.

[AMISTILLILL]

The line drawn between Paul and Rondo, on a scale of their overall impact as players for their respective teams, is an easy one to observe. Paul is the Hornets' one and only hope for any form of relative franchise success in almost EVERY facet of their game. Rondo fell into an obviously comfortable situation but has also met the challenge of that situation head on. Continually excelling with each season. He could have just as easily crumbled under the weight of running the point for three all-stars, but he hasn't.

You can't really compare the two because they bring something entirely different to the table. Rondo acknowledges and accepts his role with Boston and Paul has stepped into his position as the star and go-to guy for New Orleans.

Rondo, on any other struggling team with weak offense, would likely focus a great deal more on his offensive game. He'd spend the off season polishing that jump shot and the outcome might be entirely different stats than what he puts up now. Way too many 'what if's' to draw any real, definitive conclusion about Rondo's impact on a team like the Bobcats, Thunder, etc...

Either way, this beef is probably overblown. It's been said Rondo has a bit of an attitude, but I doubt Paul is entirely innocent in the situation, too.

[AMISTILLILL]

Chris Paul is a hundred times better than Rondo and that gap will never close. Rondo needs to keep his mouth shut and respect his peers in the league, especially ones so much better than he is. I can't believe anyone would even compare the two to be honest.

CP3 is averaging 21ppg more than Rondo is for crying out loud.

You realize racking up points isn't even a necessary part of Rondo's game, right? He doesn't have to put up 20+ points a night. Using that as leverage to discredit him as a player doesn't really carry much weight.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Rondo could probably average 15+ if it was required of him with his ability to penetrate and speed on the break. And he does rebound and defend at a far higher level than CP. But overall, no, he's not as good.

[Pharcyde]

Not really "restrained". And of course it turns into a rondo vs. Chris thread.

[Don Shurleone]

You can not base their comparison on ppg alone. Rondo doesn't need to be a scorer. He distributes the ball, plays D, rebounds, etc. Does anyone remember him practically averaging a triple double in the playoffs last year? On a separate note, does anyone have CP3's contract info?

[Pharcyde]

Rondo could probably average 15+ if it was required of him with his ability to penetrate and speed on the break. And he does rebound and defend at a far higher level than CP. But overall, no, he's not as good.
He doesnt rebound at a higher rate.

[Don Shurleone]

The only stat that matters: Boston 4-0 New Orleans 1-3

[Real Men Wear Green]

He doesnt rebound at a higher rate.
You're right, career-wise, and I will agree that this season is too small a sample to be sure that CP's rebounding has fallen off permanently, but at the same time I can't see Paul have a rebounding stretch like Rondo did in the last playoffs. Rondo showed what he's capable of at his best, and it was pretty incredible.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The only stat that matters: Boston 4-0 New Orleans 1-3
When you look at the teammates the two are playing with, it makes no sense to talk about wins and losses. Cs are still 4-0 if the two are traded, no question.

[oh the horror]

I like how some of you justify Chris acting like a phenomenal blowhard like we're in highschool here or something.



"He said this about Chris, and chris isnt about to take that!"




Uh, these are professional athletes. If someone doesnt have a high opinion of you, who cares?



Im sorry but Chris Paul strikes me as a huge drama queen.

[AMISTILLILL]

You're right, career-wise, and I will agree that this season is too small a sample to be sure that CP's rebounding has fallen off permanently, but at the same time I can't see Paul have a rebounding stretch like Rondo did in the last playoffs. Rondo showed what he's capable of at his best, and it was pretty incredible.

To be fair, it WAS a contract year for Rondo. It's been said that he may have been trying to prove his worth to gain some extra cash or get the attention of potential buyers. Don't get me wrong, I still think the kid is an incredible talent capable of churning out those kinds of results on a consistent basis, but I'm sure the prospect of a new contract motivated him quite a bit, too. At least he didn't incur a 50+ point loss at home, a la CP3...

Either way, contract year or not, the guy played his ass off in the playoffs. Nothing can be said to discredit the hustle and determination he displayed in that ORL series. And that dunk on Howard? Just plain filthy.

[ashar008]

The only stat that matters: Boston 4-0 New Orleans 1-3

How does this relate to CP3 vs. Rondo? Trade those two stratight up and the C's are still 4-0.

[04mzwach]

This team has Sheed, Pierce, KG? Think of all the trash talking that goes on. This is an elite group of trash talkers and an elite team in the NBA. The elite group of trash talkers train the other scrub trash talkers into becoming legit superstar trash talkers as well as backing them up for it. It's a team that will mess with at least a few players' emotions. Boston has been like this for a while though and it is just a big deal because Paul gets mad and tries to get a peice of Rondo.

Players feeling get hurt. Does Boston care?

No. They are too busy winning.

[AMISTILLILL]

The elite group of trash talkers train the other scrub trash talkers into becoming legit superstar trash talkers as well as backing them up for it.

This should be written into the NBA rulebook next season. Word for word.

[CJ Mustard]

SMH @ Perk snitching on Rondo. :oldlol:

[04mzwach]

This should be written into the NBA rulebook next season. Word for word.
:pimp:

[dashoebox]

Im sorry but Chris Paul strikes me as a huge drama queen.

yes. I'm a big fan of his game but dam dude grow up! sounds like a little b!tch.

[Showtime]

I like how some of you justify Chris acting like a phenomenal blowhard like we're in highschool here or something.



"He said this about Chris, and chris isnt about to take that!"




Uh, these are professional athletes. If someone doesnt have a high opinion of you, who cares?



Im sorry but Chris Paul strikes me as a huge drama queen.
"I would rather play on Pluto"

[Poodle]

Rondo would beat CP3's butt in a fight. CP3 is obviously better in basketball. Rondo is underrated however.

[craiye]

I like how some of you justify Chris acting like a phenomenal blowhard like we're in highschool here or something.



"He said this about Chris, and chris isnt about to take that!"




Uh, these are professional athletes. If someone doesnt have a high opinion of you, who cares?



Im sorry but Chris Paul strikes me as a huge drama queen.

I'd have to say I agree with this. Paul is the best PG in the game, but whenever the ball stops he leaves me scratching my head with the things he does. He just needs to grow up.

[phoenix18]

I like how some of you justify Chris acting like a phenomenal blowhard like we're in highschool here or something.

"He said this about Chris, and chris isnt about to take that!"

Uh, these are professional athletes. If someone doesnt have a high opinion of you, who cares?

Im sorry but Chris Paul strikes me as a huge drama queen.

While it may seem immature for Chris to behave that way, Rondo is bragging about when rings when all he did was ride three HOF's for it. Now I am not saying that he did not have a role in achieving that goal, but lets be real here. Chris is a much better player than Rondo will ever be and Rondo knows it. Which is why the only thing he could say to CP3 was about that one ring that he lucked into. The one ring in which he was considered to be the weakest link on the team, yet he starts bragging. Drama queen? Nope. If that was the case, he would have invaded the Lakers locker room last year after Kobe just threw him out of bounds and he got called for a foul.

[spursdynasty420]

chris paul is a thug

rondo is a brain dead idiot

[Showtime]

chris paul is a thug

rondo is a brain dead idiot
You do realize you have a Bruce Bowen avatar, right?

[amfirst]

CP3 is a million times better than Rondo. :lol

[johndough]

Honestly, what's chris Paul gonna do? My little bother would deliever a lead hook and mess homeboy's world up.

[spursdynasty420]

You do realize you have a Bruce Bowen avatar, right?

yah and bowen is neither a thug or a brain dead idiot. hes probably helped the san antonio community more then any spur before him. its actually funny because in a bowen vs cp3 matchup cp3 will always be the dirtier player. its been proven in the playoffs

[Dizzle-2k7]

When do these 2 teams play again?

[MMM]

When do these 2 teams play again?

some time in Feb i think on the 20th

[rfm767]

i'm a proud rondo hater. very proud

[MMM]

i'm a proud rondo hater. very proud

That is nothing to be proud about

[Samurai Swoosh]

chris paul is a thug

rondo is a brain dead idiot
How is CP3 a thug? Because he plays with fire, passion, and cajones?

Was Jordan, Bird, Thomas, Bryant, Garnett, James and countless others thugs as well?

[spursdynasty420]

How is CP3 a thug? Because he plays with fire, passion, and cajones?

Was Jordan, Bird, Thomas, Bryant, Garnett, James and countless others thugs as well?

garnett is a thug yes..


but seriously.. its from his actions in the playoffs and his attitude towards the game which makes him a thug. to me it least

[Showtime]

yah and bowen is neither a thug or a brain dead idiot. hes probably helped the san antonio community more then any spur before him. its actually funny because in a bowen vs cp3 matchup cp3 will always be the dirtier player. its been proven in the playoffs
You don't think intentionally trying to injure players to take them out of games so his team can win is being a thug? Bowen has tried to hurt more players than any other player in today's game, and has been one of the dirtiest players of all time. Paul is a hot head who loses his cool, not a calculating thug looking to send opponents to the locker room to get more hardware.

[Harison]

yah and bowen is neither a thug or a brain dead idiot. hes probably helped the san antonio community more then any spur before him. its actually funny because in a bowen vs cp3 matchup cp3 will always be the dirtier player. its been proven in the playoffs
Interesting, Bowen was one of the dirtiest players, ever, and you call CP3 thug, but not Bowen? Seriously, your description of Rondo fits you nicely - brain dead idiot :oldlol:

[dwade83]

haha, yeah i watched that game. there was plenty of that going on between them. played stopped once for them to take a deep breath.

CP3 is top 5 player for me - he can make any team playoff quality.

Rondo has a championship tho, that automatically adds value.

just did highlights for that game http://www.whereisbasketball.com/bball/games.php

cheers,

WIB

[kobesabi]

This is why CP3 was pissed at Rondo


The procession of trash talk, sources said, pushed into the personal when Rondo was heard to tell Paul, “I’ve got a ring, and you’re never gonna win one.”

That's really low of Rondo.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ArQJTO2HdeLuqVe4fVbqVoy8vLYF?slug=aw-paulhornets110309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I didn't like CP3 attitude and being on a different team didn't help either, but I respect him for his talent and great at doing the "point guard".

Rondo, I didn't like him because of his attitude too, being a green goblin didn't help either, but the words he say to make Paul feel belittle just really makes me really hate him for life no matter what team he goes to from now on. That's just classless Rondo! Whatever it takes, I hope CP3 makes it one day (i.e. join Lakers) to straighten up this Rondo's mouth. Go CP3! Boo to Rondo!!!

[Allstar24]

Why is Paul wasting his energy arguing with a nobody? At least when Paul wins a ring, he won't win it by riding the coattails of 3 superstars.

[MarloStanfield]

Why is Paul wasting his energy arguing with a nobody? At least when Paul wins a ring, he won't win it by riding the coattails of 3 superstars.

A top PG in the NBA is a nobody now? The stupidity of some Laker fans amazes me.

[booonkers]

that was some dumb stuff from rondo. if they traded places he'd be the ringless one. i wanna smash that kid's face.

[Allstar24]

A top PG in the NBA is a nobody now? The stupidity of some Laker fans amazes me.
Speaking of stupidity...

[Floppy]

Poor Paul. Trashtalks all the time and is one of the dirtiest players in the NBA.

I feel for him.

What Rondo did was totally uncalled for! Who is he to talk trash to Paul?

[MJ(Mean John)]

I dont think Rondo is that good.

I think he is good, but not as good as ppl give him credit for.

[Jailblazers7]

Chris Paul is a hot head, simple as that. He needs to learn how to control his temper and anger in game situations like this. Outburst like these bring back the Julius Hodges incident at NC State. CP3 needs to learn how to control his aggression better.

[KubiliusF]

CP3 is furious and he might drop smth like 20 assists next time they meet and makes sure Rondo walks out 0/0/0

[phoenix18]

CP3 is furious and he might drop smth like 20 assists next time they meet and makes sure Rondo walks out 0/0/0
If that happened, I would have to be assisted to my feet because I laughed for too long. Rondo sure has a big mouth for a player that cant really see Chris Paul.

[big baller]

A top PG in the NBA is a nobody now? The stupidity of some Laker fans amazes me.


Man, get off of marlos account.

[Maga_1]

Rondo talking trash about Paul?
Who is he to say anything about a player that it's 3x better than him?

[AMISTILLILL]

Why is Paul wasting his energy arguing with a nobody? At least when Paul wins a ring, he won't win it by riding the coattails of 3 superstars.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Derek Fisher is a shell of his former self. Check your own PG situation on the Lakers if you want to really scoff at something.

[craiye]

Geez there are a lot of CP apologists on here. Rondo was talking smack. Trash talking, ya know? Why is it so horribly unacceptable for him to talk some smack? The point was to get CP out of his game and CLEARLY it worked. Look for more teams to try to get CP all pissy after this outburst. Dude needs to grow the **** up and stop *****ing. Let your play do the talking CP.

[Brandon Roy]

Chris Paul is a hot head, simple as that. He needs to learn how to control his temper and anger in game situations like this. Outburst like these bring back the Julius Hodges incident at NC State. CP3 needs to learn how to control his aggression better.

He should learn how to control his aggression better, but citing the Julius Hodges incident isn't quite fair. Hodges told Paul that he killed Paul's grandfather (who was murdered a couple years earlier). If any of us were put in that position, I think we would have done much worse than hitting Hodges in the groin.

I think that there's always a line that shouldn't be crossed when talking trash. It's one thing to make fun of someone's game, but it's different when you get personal and start talking about someone's career. When someone crosses that line when playing pickup ball, it can be a settled with a fight. In the NBA/NCAA, there are refs, rules, and David Stern to answer to.

Both players are good players, but let's not get it twisted; if you were to trade Rondo for Paul straight up, Rondo wouldn't be nearly as effective on the Hornets and Paul would probably end his career with multiple rings. Rondo's arrogance is starting to get really tiring not only to the fans, but to his own teammates:

[QUOTE]After the game Sunday night, Celtics guard Ray Allen walked into the Hornets

[spursdynasty420]

the fact is players say **** to cp3 because they KNOW he will blow up. he loses his cool and players know it. hes not like duncan who brushes it off then murders you. hes not like kobe who feeds off it then makes you pay. hes like cp3. hes a thug with a short fuse.


its a damn shame to because he has alot of talent