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insidehoops
11-16-2009, 05:47 PM
The Grizzlies and Allen Iverson agree to say goodbye! The team will waive him.

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=5036

NoGunzJustSkillz
11-16-2009, 05:48 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=5035

Memphis is just about done waiting for Iverson to decide if and when he's returning to the team

what are his options? return to the grizz or retire? is a buy-out an option?

HylianNightmare
11-16-2009, 05:52 PM
go to the bobcats

SCdac
11-16-2009, 06:02 PM
The situation sure is messy. Not to mention, Tinsley is in the mix now, I'm assuming he was signed as Iverson's potential replacement.

HylianNightmare
11-16-2009, 06:08 PM
The situation sure is messy. Not to mention, Tinsley is in the mix now, I'm assuming he was signed as Iverson's potential replacement.

it's a sad day for me when jamaal tinsley is an allen iverson replacement

Rafael Delaget
11-16-2009, 06:09 PM
Well that was quick.

bagelred
11-16-2009, 06:10 PM
The Grizzlies really signed Tinsley?

The Grizzlies are the new Knicks.....

Rafael Delaget
11-16-2009, 06:15 PM
Was the exclamation point really necessary?

BFRESH44
11-16-2009, 06:17 PM
Pathetic

oh the horror
11-16-2009, 06:17 PM
Jesus christ...what a stupid situation that was with Iverson.


And quick too....dude played what? 2-3 games with them?

kaiteng
11-16-2009, 06:17 PM
Gotta blame God for telling Iverson to go to Memphis. :rolleyes:

Lebron23
11-16-2009, 06:18 PM
Lakers should sign Allen Iverson.

chazzy
11-16-2009, 06:18 PM
http://paperthoughts.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/nba_g_iverson_brown_300.jpg

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/04/11/iverson_and_stephen_jackson_treas_3.jpg

:rockon:

wang4three
11-16-2009, 06:19 PM
I guess this somewhat Karma for the Grizzlies since they signed Darius Miles last year.

G-train
11-16-2009, 06:19 PM
wowza!

Maybe the bobcats now, as they have committed to S-Jax?

gasolina
11-16-2009, 06:24 PM
This is quite literally quitting on your team. Vince Carter has nothing on Iverson now.

DouXer4ouR
11-16-2009, 06:27 PM
AI has had a good career, if I were him I'd quit to. He's accomplished a lot in this league, he's going out with his head still up.

2LeTTeRS
11-16-2009, 06:27 PM
You know....I was saying earlier that we (Bobcats) didn't need AI; but now that he's a free agent what the hell lets get him. I still don't think we need him with Felton, Augustin and Jax handling the ball, plus Flip Murray as our scoring guard off the bench, added with the fact that we need to find some minutes for our 1st round pick Gerald Henderson.

But seeing how adding AI would probably go over beautifully with Jax, and should do wonders for making a Bobcats ticket a main attraction here in the Carolinas I say its worth it. And if AI acts up we can always waive him.

Kiddlovesnets
11-16-2009, 06:32 PM
The cancer is cured, Grizzlies will start winning.

dr8ked
11-16-2009, 06:35 PM
The cancer is cured, Grizzlies will start winning.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: Cancer can't be cured. It goes away and comes back

oh the horror
11-16-2009, 06:36 PM
The cancer is cured, Grizzlies will start winning.



Riiiiiiiight....Just like they've been winning so far without him, right? That team is screwed either way.

chazzy
11-16-2009, 06:49 PM
The cancer is cured, Grizzlies will start winning.

Rudy Gay and Zach Randolph were waived too??

Interminator
11-16-2009, 06:52 PM
Im split on this.

Iverson is really quitting on this team without giving it time to see how things would turn out, of course things would turn out bad, but at least he should've made an effort to return to the Grizzlies.

The Grizzlies shouldn't have signed Iverson for the purpose of ticket sales, if they weren't going to give him an opportunity to start as he should have over Mike Conley, why bring him in? The fact Heisley told Iverson they were trying to win a championship is an even bigger joke.

Interminator
11-16-2009, 06:53 PM
Rudy Gay and Zach Randolph were waived too??
Heisley should've also announced he was selling the team.

Hes without question the biggest cancer to our team.

Mr_Basketball#1
11-16-2009, 06:54 PM
The Hornets need Chris Paul and they can get him for cheap. Chris Paul needs help.

Hammertime
11-16-2009, 06:55 PM
The fact Heisley told Iverson they were trying to win a championship is an even bigger joke.

I know Iverson's a pothead, but how much weed would you have to smoke to have believed, 3 months ago, that the Grizzlies were trying to win the championship?

No, this is not a rhetorical question. I'm actually asking you to visualize the amount of weed you think would be needed

Interminator
11-16-2009, 06:57 PM
The Hornets need Chris Paul and they can get him for cheap. Chris Paul needs help.
That move makes too much sense to happen.

The Hornets desperately need somebody else to create offense other than Chris Paul.

Knicks101
11-16-2009, 06:57 PM
Wow, waived just because he had some personal issues? lol

Interminator
11-16-2009, 07:01 PM
I know Iverson's a pothead, but how much weed would you have to smoke to have believed, 3 months ago, that the Grizzlies were trying to win the championship?

No, this is not a rhetorical question. I'm actually asking you to visualize the amount of weed you think would be needed
:oldlol:

Iverson took the most money available, he wont admit it but its the truth.

He could've easily signed for less this season and went to Miami and possibly started over Chalmers at PG. There he could've increased his value, and received a Full MLE offer in 2010.

chazzy
11-16-2009, 07:01 PM
Wow, waived just because he had some personal issues? lol

Just like how he missed the playoffs last year because of a bruised ego.. I mean back?

BALLin01
11-16-2009, 07:02 PM
Damn. 3 games and he's gone?

OneMoreSucka
11-16-2009, 07:08 PM
Cavs.

oh the horror
11-16-2009, 07:09 PM
So at this point....after THIS nonsense...do you think someone still would pick him up?

Big One
11-16-2009, 07:10 PM
i just heard from my sources that the bucks will sign him

ukballer
11-16-2009, 07:10 PM
Goodbye Acie Law, hello Allen Iverson anyone? :confusedshrug:

Interminator
11-16-2009, 07:10 PM
So at this point....after THIS nonsense...do you think someone still would pick him up?
Yes.

But dont expect it to happen immediately, Iverson may not be on a NBA team until February.

Interminator
11-16-2009, 07:18 PM
Cavaliers and Bobcats not interested in AI, sources tell Y! Sports.
http://twitter.com/spearsnbayahoo



Just texted assistant GM of team that could use some scoring punch,and asked if they had any interest in Iverson. Response: "Haha."



Spears and I are running out of teams to ask about A.I. Not even one "Maybe" yet. Or, "We'll look into it." Just flat "no's" and "hell no's"
http://twitter.com/wojyahoonba

It looks like this is the tragic end to Allen Iverson's career.

oh the horror
11-16-2009, 07:20 PM
Dude pretty much BURIED himself with his behavior on Memphis.

G-train
11-16-2009, 07:20 PM
He would actually be good on the Spurs.

D-Rose
11-16-2009, 07:20 PM
Knicks or Nets. Book it.

U got Served
11-16-2009, 07:21 PM
Teams forget that cancer cannot be cured. No teams wants a disease that is incurable.

Mr_Basketball#1
11-16-2009, 07:21 PM
If he'll accept a bench role he'll be back. The only team that would probably start him is the Hornets.

NoGunzJustSkillz
11-16-2009, 07:26 PM
so does ai receive all of the money from the contract he signed with the grizz?

chazzy
11-16-2009, 07:28 PM
http://twitter.com/spearsnbayahoo




http://twitter.com/wojyahoonba

It looks like this is the tragic end to Allen Iverson's career.

That's pretty depressing actually.. dude can still play basketball and would help a lot of teams, he just needs to swallow his god damn ego and play off the bench. We know your resume, but you just aren't the same in a starting role for a good team anymore.

Hammertime
11-16-2009, 07:28 PM
Knicks or Nets. Book it.

If God is Mormon, Iverson will go to the Knicks. I'm keeping my Jewish fingers crossed.

ukballer
11-16-2009, 07:30 PM
Iverson passing up his chance to go out with a bang

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/vince_thomas/11/10/iverson/index.html

Nice read here from Vince Thomas, and I agree with everything he says.

NoGunzJustSkillz
11-16-2009, 07:35 PM
"The Grizzlies and Allen Iverson have come to a mutual agreement that because of personal matters that forced him to leave the team on Nov. 7, Allen will step away from the game at this time, allowing him to focus on those matters," Grizzlies GM Chris Wallace said in a statement. "As a result, we will be ending our contractual agreement with Allen, which will allow both parties to move forward. We wish Allen the best."

doesn't sound like a.i. will sign with anybody rite away....the above statement could be misleading tho.

Knicks101
11-16-2009, 07:37 PM
Knicks or Nets. Book it.

They're saying that the Knicks have no interest, luckily.

D-Rose
11-16-2009, 07:39 PM
They're saying that the Knicks have no interest, luckily.
I don't see why not...Knicks are already on the way to Top 5 pick, Iverson brings in buzz and ticket sales...and if he got offensive control from D'Antoni he would get NY some wins...

oh the horror
11-16-2009, 07:40 PM
This guy just flat our destroyed himself with his attitude. To be honest, even IF teams had a remote interest....I'd say its just about GONE right now given the way he handled himself in Memphis.

ONE damn game in, and he was already complaining.....and then a game or two later, he wants out?



I cant even defend that behavior at this point.

Knicks101
11-16-2009, 07:42 PM
I don't see why not...Knicks are already on the way to Top 5 pick, Iverson brings in buzz and ticket sales...and if he got offensive control from D'Antoni he would get NY some wins...

We'll sell tickets either way. Bringing Iverson in is pointless, we aren't making the Playoffs with our without him and he'll just take shots and playing time away from our young guys and slow their development.

NoGunzJustSkillz
11-16-2009, 07:43 PM
I guess this somewhat Karma for the Grizzlies since they signed Darius Miles last year.

grizz didn't lose much..ai is only getting a fraction of his contract.

TryToBeUnbias
11-16-2009, 07:44 PM
there really isnt a team iverson can go to and play the way he wants is there?

Jasper
11-16-2009, 07:45 PM
If another team picks him up pronto - I'd say Knicks or the Warriors for their running games.

But as I stated before the season started , he would be best served , if he waited till the Feb deadline , and hook up with an elite team , and play off the bench take less money , play 20 valuable minutes and win a ring.
Any of the top championship teams have strong character players as well as coachs that could keep AI on the same page , and I really believe AI would be thrilled to complete his resume with a championship ring with any of these teams :
Lakers
Spurs
Cav's
Celtics
Majic

Mateo
11-16-2009, 07:50 PM
the funniest tenure in nba history, easily.

lilmagicjohnson
11-16-2009, 07:55 PM
If another team picks him up pronto - I'd say Knicks or the Warriors for their running games.

But as I stated before the season started , he would be best served , if he waited till the Feb deadline , and hook up with an elite team , and play off the bench take less money , play 20 valuable minutes and win a ring.
Any of the top championship teams have strong character players as well as coachs that could keep AI on the same page , and I really believe AI would be thrilled to complete his resume with a championship ring with any of these teams :
Lakers
Spurs
Cav's
Celtics
Majic

AI has the potential to wreck each and every one of those teams

Jasper
11-16-2009, 07:59 PM
AI has the potential to wreck each and every one of those teams

Should we refresh our memories about the Glove :confusedshrug:

1~Gibson~1
11-16-2009, 08:00 PM
im sure any contender would take him if he's willing to come off the bench. i could see if it were back in his prime years when he was the ****, but he's not in thosee years anymore and he just needs to accept his role.

if he was willing to come off the bench whatever team he goes to should/would be the favorite IMO. Of course im talking contenders only though.

branslowski
11-16-2009, 08:10 PM
Hopefully He doesn't get signed by LA...

Im hoping Cavs, Celtics, or Spurs sign him...:D

Paging Phoenix18....:oldlol:

Mateo
11-16-2009, 08:39 PM
Iverson is the last vestige of a foregone era of "scoring only" players. All of the other similar players have already disappeared from the league. Iverson was actually a pioneer in the art of scoring-only. Many a player emulated his singular focus and noticed that scoring is what got big contracts (still does, to some degree). None of these types of players have ever had much success. Sure, Iverson capitalized 1 year in one of the worst conferences in sports history, with a great team defense surrounding him, but overall these types of players, Iverson included have been massive career failures. The turning point was, in my opinion, 2003. That's when team success was more attributed to a unified team of players rather than being led by scoring-only players. Shortly there after, these scoring-only players went through quick, massive declines, Iverson included. His reputation has allowed him to stick around longer than the other scoring-only players, but even that has run out, thanks to incidents like this. It's an end of an era, but one that should have never happened.

kentatm
11-16-2009, 08:42 PM
But as I stated before the season started , he would be best served , if he waited till the Feb deadline , and hook up with an elite team , and play off the bench take less money , play 20 valuable minutes and win a ring.


Thats nice to say and all but AI has already publicly stated several times that if he is not a starter playing his way, he may as well retire.




Anyone remember when AI said God put him in Memphis?

I guess AI knows better huh?

NoGunzJustSkillz
11-16-2009, 08:51 PM
Should we refresh our memories about the Glove :confusedshrug:

refresh mine pleaase.

phoenix18
11-16-2009, 08:58 PM
Hopefully He doesn't get signed by LA...

Im hoping Cavs, Celtics, or Spurs sign him...:D

Paging Phoenix18....:oldlol:

Man this thread just ruined my day.:(

I patterned my game after this guy. All the work.:ohwell:

I guess I wont be seeing him play again.

NoGunzJustSkillz
11-16-2009, 09:00 PM
Man this thread just ruined my day.:(

I patterned my game after this guy. All the work.:ohwell:

I guess I wont be seeing him play again.

if i had to bet, i'd say he'll def be in the nba again.

boozehound
11-16-2009, 09:03 PM
Lakers should sign Allen Iverson.
i agree

phoenix18
11-16-2009, 09:04 PM
i agree
:no: I know what your intentions are.

thejusman1
11-16-2009, 09:04 PM
The Lakers should definitely sign A.I. AND start him over Fisher.

A.I./Bynum/Gasol/Artest/Kobe

Might as well stop playing the regular season and just give the Lakers a trophy.

oh the horror
11-16-2009, 09:06 PM
The Lakers should definitely sign A.I. AND start him over Fisher.

A.I./Bynum/Gasol/Artest/Kobe

Might as well stop playing the regular season and just give the Lakers a trophy.


On paper that team sounds insane....but in reality...ehhhhhh.

D-Rose
11-16-2009, 09:09 PM
The Lakers should definitely sign A.I. AND start him over Fisher.

A.I./Bynum/Gasol/Artest/Kobe

Might as well stop playing the regular season and just give the Lakers a trophy.
:hammerhead:

boozehound
11-16-2009, 09:10 PM
Gotta blame God for telling Iverson to go to Memphis. :rolleyes:
this is what I meant to agree with

ihatetimthomas
11-16-2009, 09:17 PM
Lakers wont sign Iverson. He doesn't fit the system and after all that has transpired, I dont think the Lakers would want him.

I am not sure who would want him at this point. Its really a sad day in basketball. Its a real shame Iverson is going to come to an end like this. I hope he finds a way to accept his role on the bench for a good team, but I don't know if that's possible,

Prodigy
11-16-2009, 09:22 PM
Nobody wants him. :roll:

itsGameTime
11-16-2009, 09:22 PM
Man this thread just ruined my day.:(

I patterned my game after this guy. All the work.:ohwell:

I guess I wont be seeing him play again.

:wtf: So do you mean work as in practice?

Mateo
11-16-2009, 09:23 PM
The Lakers should definitely sign A.I. AND start him over Fisher.

A.I./Bynum/Gasol/Artest/Kobe

Might as well stop playing the regular season and just give the Lakers a trophy.

every team that AI has left has gotten better and every team he has joined has gotten worse.

Do you want to risk that's just coincidence?

kentatm
11-16-2009, 09:27 PM
The Lakers should definitely sign A.I. AND start him over Fisher.

A.I./Bynum/Gasol/Artest/Kobe

Might as well stop playing the regular season and just give the Lakers a trophy.

:roll:

yea right. Just like when they had Gary Payton and Karl Malone w/Shaq and Kobe.


AI in the triangle? :lol :lol :lol :lol

easythereliberace
11-17-2009, 12:08 AM
Good riddance to bad relish. AI has always been overrated because he is little and has street appeal. His shooting percentage is too low for a HOF player, his defense is weak and he does not make his team better. If AI really had street hunger her would be preparing like MJ at all times, not just showing up for games.

oh the horror
11-17-2009, 02:24 AM
Good riddance to bad relish. AI has always been overrated because he is little and has street appeal. His shooting percentage is too low for a HOF player, his defense is weak and he does not make his team better. If AI really had street hunger her would be preparing like MJ at all times, not just showing up for games.



Have you seen some of the field goal percentages of other Hall of Famers?

kenmax1983
11-17-2009, 02:53 AM
The 6'1 hero in 76ers is gone with my highschool memory

haji_d_robertas
11-17-2009, 05:50 AM
Lakers wont sign Iverson. He doesn't fit the system and after all that has transpired, I dont think the Lakers would want him.

I am not sure who would want him at this point. Its really a sad day in basketball. Its a real shame Iverson is going to come to an end like this. I hope he finds a way to accept his role on the bench for a good team, but I don't know if that's possible,

This is a weak argument. Of course the Lakers are going to sign Iverson. He can start in LA over Fish. Phil Jackson could get through to him. He'll win a ring with the Lakers at the end of this season.

haji_d_robertas
11-17-2009, 05:52 AM
:roll:

yea right. Just like when they had Gary Payton and Karl Malone w/Shaq and Kobe.


AI in the triangle? :lol :lol :lol :lol

Yeah, that team went all the way to the finals, what a joke!

chazzy
11-17-2009, 07:07 AM
The Nuggets should sign him. They have Nene, he's already beaten cancer once :confusedshrug:

Batman
11-17-2009, 08:08 AM
:roll:

yea right. Just like when they had Gary Payton and Karl Malone w/Shaq and Kobe.


AI in the triangle? :lol :lol :lol :lol
I think AI will end up going to LA or another power team that is weak at PG.

G-train
11-17-2009, 08:35 AM
Yeah, that team went all the way to the finals, what a joke!

And probably would have won if Malone didn't get injured.

G-train
11-17-2009, 08:37 AM
Lakers wont sign Iverson. He doesn't fit the system and after all that has transpired, I dont think the Lakers would want him.


AI is a great passer and plays well off the ball, so the system would be fine. I think it comes down to whether they think they need him... and I doubt they make that decision until Pau comes back.
And he would play off the bench, as he would be winning.

spree43
11-17-2009, 10:43 AM
Iverson on the knicks, if D

phoenix18
11-17-2009, 11:34 AM
[QUOTE=spree43]Iverson on the knicks, if D

spree43
11-17-2009, 11:40 AM
Allen Iverson is fast break offense would make the Knicks relevant and dangerous. We are talking about one of the top ten greatest fast break players of all time.

And with his dribble penetration, gallo would have a lot of open shots to work with.
Plus, if he signs with the knicks now he can get back his reputation as a great individual player this season

Then next season, if they sign Lebron, he can re-sign for low money and go for the title

mlh1981
11-17-2009, 01:36 PM
I don't know how much his "legacy" (which is such a superfluous term to begin with) will be effected by this. I think players are always remembered for what they did in their prime years. We don't talk much about MJ's Wizards years, or Karl Malone being on the Lakers. I think AI will be remembered for leading the Sixers to the finals, and as being a tough "little man" who loved the game had tons of speed on the court, and heart. Unfortunately, some of this other stuff WILL be a part of his legacy, but it won't completely overshadow his career like some think.

truethat23
11-17-2009, 09:17 PM
If Iverson wants to continue to play in the league, he has to understand that he is not going to be the focal point of the offense anymore. Most teams already have either an established superstar or a young up and coming guy that they want to invest and build their franchise around.

I believe Iverson wants to win a championship before his career is over, so the only teams that I think that could handle his personality and his game would be the Lakers, Celtics, or Spurs. He may have a chance to start at point with the Lakers but with the Celtics and Spurs, he'll be sixth man at best. Phil Jackson, Popovich, and Doc & especially KG won't be putting up with any of his antics if he comes aboard with one of them. AI will have to accept that.

haji_d_robertas
11-18-2009, 04:27 PM
I don't think a lot of people here really understand Allen Iverson. He has had his troubles that's for sure, but the hate is for what he represents off the court, his background and cultural impact. I feel a little bit of "let's put him back in his place" from this thread and I can't help but get offended by that.

He deserves to be a starter if he can find a place where he fits. He's proven he can play and he is still better than a lot of starters out there right now. He is coachable? Yes. Larry Brown can attest to that, and if I'm in AI's shoes, it's important to understand that Michael Curry was not a great coach and is now fired, and Lionel Hollins is not a great coach and probably will be fired before the season is over.

Allen Iverson is just not a diplomat and probably doesn't respect people who he does not feel deserve it. Is that a character flaw? yeah, crazy? no way. I've been disrespected on this board so many times and in so many ways that it makes my head spin, but I know that most of the people doing the disrespecting aren't crazy, they just don't feel like I deserve it.

So he is going to go to a contender and probably start, I would get used to that fact right away. It's not a matter of what bad coaches think, or posters on this board who cannot diguise their hatred for the culture that AI represents, it's the truth. So flail away, Weenies, let the disrespect continue.

gasolina
11-18-2009, 04:33 PM
Complaining on minutes just one game after coming off an injury. Even Memphis doctors told the coaching staff to limit his minutes.

:applause: hooray iverson

JerzeyBlaze
11-18-2009, 07:20 PM
I don't think a lot of people here really understand Allen Iverson. He has had his troubles that's for sure, but the hate is for what he represents off the court, his background and cultural impact. I feel a little bit of "let's put him back in his place" from this thread and I can't help but get offended by that.

He deserves to be a starter if he can find a place where he fits. He's proven he can play and he is still better than a lot of starters out there right now. He is coachable? Yes. Larry Brown can attest to that, and if I'm in AI's shoes, it's important to understand that Michael Curry was not a great coach and is now fired, and Lionel Hollins is not a great coach and probably will be fired before the season is over.

Allen Iverson is just not a diplomat and probably doesn't respect people who he does not feel deserve it. Is that a character flaw? yeah, crazy? no way. I've been disrespected on this board so many times and in so many ways that it makes my head spin, but I know that most of the people doing the disrespecting aren't crazy, they just don't feel like I deserve it.

So he is going to go to a contender and probably start, I would get used to that fact right away. It's not a matter of what bad coaches think, or posters on this board who cannot diguise their hatred for the culture that AI represents, it's the truth. So flail away, Weenies, let the disrespect continue.

I feel u on this post in so many ways...

First off AI never gave the impression that he has slowed down, it was the media and the public. He had one bad season in detroit where he didnt play that much, the grizzlies signing was a joke...im trying to figure out how people think he has slowed down or is not as good as he use to be. No one can say that cause he hasnt played all that much to display if he still has it or not. Look at Steve Nash...hes 35 and still considered top 10 PGs in the league. He has defied age and shut all the critics up cause he takes care of his body period. AI is 34 and in my opinion if given the right situation (LIKE NEW YORK) will be able to put up ridiculus #s like he used to. he just needs a chance to shut everybody up thats all

KelticForce1349
11-19-2009, 05:33 PM
I don't think a lot of people here really understand Allen Iverson. He has had his troubles that's for sure, but the hate is for what he represents off the court, his background and cultural impact. I feel a little bit of "let's put him back in his place" from this thread and I can't help but get offended by that.

He deserves to be a starter if he can find a place where he fits. He's proven he can play and he is still better than a lot of starters out there right now. He is coachable? Yes. Larry Brown can attest to that, and if I'm in AI's shoes, it's important to understand that Michael Curry was not a great coach and is now fired, and Lionel Hollins is not a great coach and probably will be fired before the season is over.

Allen Iverson is just not a diplomat and probably doesn't respect people who he does not feel deserve it. Is that a character flaw? yeah, crazy? no way. I've been disrespected on this board so many times and in so many ways that it makes my head spin, but I know that most of the people doing the disrespecting aren't crazy, they just don't feel like I deserve it.

So he is going to go to a contender and probably start, I would get used to that fact right away. It's not a matter of what bad coaches think, or posters on this board who cannot diguise their hatred for the culture that AI represents, it's the truth. So flail away, Weenies, let the disrespect continue.



:roll: :lol :oldlol: and :roll: again. Thank you for this post. :applause: