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White Chocolate
11-18-2009, 04:02 AM
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1991-1997
-18.2 PPG
-10.7 RPG
-2.0 APG
-1.4 SPG
-1.7 BPG
-32.5 MPG
-52.6% from the field
-73.9% from the foul line
-5x All-Star
-3x All-NBA 2nd team
-Top 10 in MVP voting 3x

Playoffs 1991-1997
-18.7 PPG
-10.7 RPG
-2.1 APG
-1.3 SPG
-1.8 BPG
-50.5% from the field
-79.5% from the foul line

1996 Finals vs Chicago
-23.3 PPG
-10.0 RPG
-2.2 APG
-1.3 SPG
-2.0 BPG
-55.1% from the field
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALdNck0f2o (mix tape)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQeMhYJe5JA (top 10 dunks)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNIj9ZYCF48 (mix tape from the '96 Finals)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrc_jPDrVnI (dunk on Horry in game 5 '93)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1zY0QZUnEI (dunk on Laimbeer in '90)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTPV2r2s1k8 (dunk on Rodman in game 4 '96)
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Strengths
-Very efficient scorer
-Excellent rebounder
-Excellent defender
-Freakish athleticism for a 6'10" PF
-Decent foul shooter for a big man
-Underrated mid range J
-Clutch
-Ability to play the 4 and 5 positions effectively

Weaknesses
-Poor ball handler
-Far too aggressive at times
-Extremely foul prone
-Food
-Women
-Coke
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Player comparison- Amare Stoudemire with a few less points and far better defense

:applause: :applause:

bdreason
11-18-2009, 04:10 AM
Nice breakdown. I'de say he was even more explosive than Amare. I put him up there with Barkley as far as freakish atheletes goes. Both these guys would do things on the court that would just make you go :wtf:

White Chocolate
11-18-2009, 04:13 AM
Nice breakdown. I'de say he was even more explosive than Amare. I put him up there with Barkley as far as freakish atheletes goes. Both these guys would do things on the court that would just make you go :wtf:


Overall, he was more athletic than Amare. Kemp didn't quite have the length(his arms weren't that long and his hands weren't that big), but he got up high and fast. Kemp was also faster.

As far as Barkley, he was very fast going up and down the court, but wasn't quite as explosive. He was however, much stronger.

Swaggin916
11-18-2009, 04:15 AM
Yea he was kind of like a bigger version of Dominique...

He was the ish though back in the day

bdreason
11-18-2009, 05:11 AM
Also, rumor is he couldn't palm a Basketball.

Fatal9
11-18-2009, 05:15 AM
Are you going to give us more insight in any of your threads other than punching out numbers that are readily available to anyone capable of using google? Other than the completely obvious stuff (like "freakishly athletic"...oh really?).

White Chocolate
11-18-2009, 05:15 AM
Also, rumor is he couldn't palm a Basketball.


I heard about that. Same with Jerome Kersey.

White Chocolate
11-18-2009, 05:16 AM
Are you going to give us more insight in any of your threads other than punching out numbers that are readily available to anyone capable of using google? Other than the completely obvious stuff (like "freakishly athletic"...oh really?).


Are you going to stop trolling my thread and actually contribute?

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 05:37 AM
Kemp was fun to watch and I agree that he was faster and a better athlete overall than Amare, although Stat(pre-injury was close).

He did have more to his game than just athleticism as well. He could hit mid-range shots and he could score in the post(mostly with power moves). On his own, I don't think he was ever the type of player you'd build your franchise around, but he formed one of the great duos of all time with Payton. Who didn't love seeing Payton throw Kemp lobs?

NotYetGreat
11-18-2009, 07:34 AM
Also, rumor is he couldn't palm a Basketball.

No way! That's funky... :wtf:

plowking
11-18-2009, 07:51 AM
I actually thought he was quite an adequate handler of the ball for someone his size. He ran the break well, and was fairly regularly pulling off coast to coasts.

plowking
11-18-2009, 07:52 AM
Also, rumor is he couldn't palm a Basketball.

Who needs to palm it when you can cup it and slam it down harder than anyone in the history of the NBA. His dunks were crazy; felt like the ring would snap off every time he threw it down.

TAZORAC
11-18-2009, 07:54 AM
top 5 during his time, should have developed a jump shot

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 07:57 AM
top 5 during his time, should have developed a jump shot

He was never top 5. He wasn't even a top 5 big man with the likes of Olajuwon, Shaq, The Mailman, Ewing, Barkley, Robinson and Zo around.

TAZORAC
11-18-2009, 07:58 AM
He was never top 5. He wasn't even a top 5 big man with the likes of Olajuwon, Shaq, The Mailman, Ewing, Barkley, Robinson and Zo around.


mmm buddy, he played POWER FORWARD, shaq ewing robinson and ZO are centers

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 08:03 AM
mmm buddy, he played POWER FORWARD, shaq ewing robinson and ZO are centers

I thought you meant top 5 player overall. You just said top 5. Next time you should be more specific.

robertshaw_1
11-18-2009, 10:39 AM
in 96 he was top 5.

Silverbullit
11-18-2009, 10:43 AM
I liked the Kemp/Payton/Schrempf triumvirate.

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 10:45 AM
in 96 he was top 5.

:roll: Not according to Jordan, Robinson, O'Neal, Olajuwon, Pippen, Malone, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill and Kemp's own teammate Gary Payton to name a few. Lets face it, he probably wasn't even top 10 that season.

Silverbullit
11-18-2009, 10:51 AM
:roll: Not according to Jordan, Robinson, O'Neal, Olajuwon, Pippen, Malone, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill and Kemp's own teammate Gary Payton to name a few. Lets face it, he probably wasn't even top 10 that season.

He was 8th in MVP voting this year.

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 10:56 AM
He was 8th in MVP voting this year.

Yeah, but it doesn't mean he was better than the players I mentioned. Kemp vs Payton is debatable as far as 1996, but I'd take Payton because of his incredible defense, the ability to post up smaller guards and run the offense.

Silverbullit
11-18-2009, 11:03 AM
Yeah, but it doesn't mean he was better than the players I mentioned. Kemp vs Payton is debatable as far as 1996, but I'd take Payton because of his incredible defense, the ability to post up smaller guards and run the offense.

I would take Payton ahead of Kemp too.
But especially in 1996 Shawn was a top 10 player.

HylianNightmare
11-18-2009, 11:15 AM
daddy?

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 11:16 AM
I would take Payton ahead of Kemp too.
But especially in 1996 Shawn was a top 10 player.

Ok, so if you have Payton ahead of Kemp then who was Kemp better than out of these players?

Jordan, Pippen, O'Neal, Robinson, Olajuwon, Hardaway, Hill, Mourning and Malone.

I can't see ranking him over any of them.

Bigsmoke
11-18-2009, 11:23 AM
in other news.

Shawn Kemp turns 40 years old in 8 days.

plowking
11-18-2009, 11:25 AM
Kemp was better than Hill and Hardaway. At one point, not looking at the stats, I thought he was the best PF in the league.

robertshaw_1
11-18-2009, 11:28 AM
1996 kemp:
season + playoffs

33 minutes per game
22.8 points
58% FG
12.4 rebound
1.8 block
3.1 asist

Leaders:
Kemp:

3

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 11:29 AM
Kemp was better than Hill and Hardaway. At one point, not looking at the stats, I thought he was the best PF in the league.

No way was he better than those guys. Penny led Orlando to a 20-8 record without Shaq and he finished 3rd in MVP voting that season. He was very good in the post for a guard, he played point guard at 6'7", he was extremely efficient, he could get to the basket, shoot 3's and play defense, perform well in the clutch and he was also smart and unselfish.

Hill was a monster as well, like Hardaway he was a very efficient scorer, but he rebounded like a power forward(9.8 per game in 1996 :wtf: ) and set up his teammates like a point guard. His mid-range game was always a thing of beauty as well.

The Sonics replaced Kemp with Vin Baker 2 years later and they still won 61 games.

plowking
11-18-2009, 11:37 AM
Vin Baker was a very good player himself, though the team in general was a lot better at that point too, with Payton growing as a player as well.

I mean look at his numbers. 23 and 12 in 33 minutes? 60% shooting... Insane really, and he did play really good defense all year. When was the last time a player averaged 23 and 12, let alone in that amount of playtime? Shaq and Duncan I'd say... And during 96 he really had a huge impact, and was easily their most important piece on the floor.

robertshaw_1
11-18-2009, 11:40 AM
Vin Baker was a very good player himself, though the team in general was a lot better at that point too, with Payton growing as a player as well.

I mean look at his numbers. 23 and 12 in 33 minutes? 60% shooting... Insane really, and he did play really good defense all year. When was the last time a player averaged 23 and 12, let alone in that amount of playtime? Shaq and Duncan I'd say... And during 96 he really had a huge impact, and was easily their most important piece on the floor.

i cant remember, ever, a player that has 60% in 33 minutes with something like 23/12.....

goldenryan
11-18-2009, 02:09 PM
He was never top 5. He wasn't even a top 5 big man with the likes of Olajuwon, Shaq, The Mailman, Ewing, Barkley, Robinson and Zo around.

in his prime he was better than zo.

MELOgamaniac
11-18-2009, 02:24 PM
Kemp overrated...he was just exciting to watch....his athletic ability is what kept in the league

MELOgamaniac
11-18-2009, 02:25 PM
in his prime he was better than zo.

damn you'se a dumb b1tch

goldenryan
11-18-2009, 02:31 PM
damn you'se a dumb b1tch

call someone out who gives a sh!t. :violin:

KenneBell
11-18-2009, 02:34 PM
1996 kemp:
season + playoffs

33 minutes per game
22.8 points
58% FG
12.4 rebound
1.8 block
3.1 asist


Where are you getting your stats?

Regular season in '96: 19.6p/11.4r/2.2a/1.6b on 56%
Playoffs: 20.9p/10.4r/1.5a on 57%

MELOgamaniac
11-18-2009, 02:35 PM
call someone out who gives a sh!t. :violin:

just stating facts homie....you dont have to be mad

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 02:38 PM
in his prime he was better than zo.

:roll: Wow, you just proved to me that you didn't watch either player and you're basing your opinion on flashy youtube mixes.

Zo not only scored more than Kemp and was atleast in the same class as a rebounder, but Zo is one of the best defensive players of all time. Zo was arguably robbed of an MVP award in 1999. Zo was better with his back to the basket than Kemp and he could hit mid-range jumpers with consistency as well. I'll take Zo on both ends of the court.

MELOgamaniac
11-18-2009, 02:55 PM
:roll: Wow, you just proved to me that you didn't watch either player and you're basing your opinion on flashy youtube mixes.

Zo not only scored more than Kemp and was atleast in the same class as a rebounder, but Zo is one of the best defensive players of all time. Zo was arguably robbed of an MVP award in 1999. Zo was better with his back to the basket than Kemp and he could hit mid-range jumpers with consistency as well. I'll take Zo on both ends of the court.

Told you ryan...youse a dumb b1tch

goldenryan
11-18-2009, 02:58 PM
:roll: Wow, you just proved to me that you didn't watch either player and you're basing your opinion on flashy youtube mixes.

Zo not only scored more than Kemp and was atleast in the same class as a rebounder, but Zo is one of the best defensive players of all time. Zo was arguably robbed of an MVP award in 1999. Zo was better with his back to the basket than Kemp and he could hit mid-range jumpers with consistency as well. I'll take Zo on both ends of the court.

kemp numbers were lower had better teammates, i think fans forget how good he was because of his last few season the same reason kids under 20 don't consider jerry rice the g.o.a.t. reciever. anyway i didn't say kemp had a better career than zo , i just said prime kemp was better than zo in 96. also zo played in the east (outside of the bulls) rockets,spurs,jazz >>>magic,knicks,pacers. and the bottom teams in the west was deeper.
prime kemp, dwight howard >>>>> zo

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 03:11 PM
kemp numbers were lower had better teammates, i think fans forget how good he was because of his last few season the same reason kids under 20 don't consider jerry rice the g.o.a.t. reciever. anyway i didn't say kemp had a better career than zo , i just said prime kemp was better than zo in 96. also zo played in the east (outside of the bulls) rockets,spurs,jazz >>>magic,knicks,pacers. and the bottom teams in the west was deeper.
prime kemp, dwight howard >>>>> zo

What was Kemp better than Zo at? Was he so much better at anything that it'd make up for the HUGE difference in defense? I can't think of one thing that Kemp was noticeably better at. Zo played on some very good teams too, one of them won 61 games so don't give me that good teams BS.

Prime Zo> prime Kemp and current Dwight Howard. Howard is also better than Kemp ever was.

MELOgamaniac
11-18-2009, 03:12 PM
^^^^ get Em

Bigsmoke
11-18-2009, 04:00 PM
Shawn Kemp was a beast in NBA Live 96

robertshaw_1
11-18-2009, 05:19 PM
33 minutes per game
22.8 points
58% FG
12.4 rebound
1.8 block
3.1 asist

IMO shaqattack

White Chocolate
11-18-2009, 05:21 PM
I actually thought he was quite an adequate handler of the ball for someone his size. He ran the break well, and was fairly regularly pulling off coast to coasts.


That's what you see in highlights. He was actually a piss poor ball handler. He was frequently averaging over 3 turnovers per game and was at 4 at one point.

Biddy77
11-18-2009, 05:25 PM
I actually watched Kemp a lot during his career, and the thing that really kept him from being as valuable as guys like Malone and Barkley is that he never drveloped any consistent, on demand moves to score at key points in games. He produced a lot over the course of a game, but he wasn't a go-to guy who you could rely on. Fantastic talent, but very unpolished offensively.

I never wanted him in Portland, even in his prime, but I loved watching him in Seattle and Cleveland.

robertshaw_1
11-18-2009, 05:31 PM
he is not barkley, nor malone...

BUT TOP 5 IN 1996.

B-Jax
11-18-2009, 05:34 PM
A prime Shawn Kemp was a very entertaining player to watch. When game time arrived, he never disappointed. From a skills standpoint, his defense was his biggest strength. He could guard most big men(guarded Longley in the 1996 Finals) and that is what made him so valuable. Most power forwards are not capable of guarding centers. Kemp was also extremely fortunate to have one of the best all-around point guards in Gary Payton as a teammate.

However, he was a poor ball handler. Even though Shawn scored at a very efficient rate, a lot of his baskets came from Payton alley oops and from mismatches(this is where his athleticism comes into play). Because Kemp frequently turned the ball over, you would see one of three things: 1)Payton would dominate the ball and take over, especially in crunch time, 2)Try and set up Hersey Hawkins for a three pointer, or 3)Give the ball to Schrempf. Even though Schrempf was the same size as Kemp, he was much more skilled, was a much better ball handler, and was able to create for himself.

Kemp was a talented big man. But if you noticed, his efficiency took a big nose drop once he left Seattle. Kemp's biggest asset was his defense. That was a big part as to why the Sonics dominated the West from 1993-1997.

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 05:37 PM
he is not barkley, nor malone...

BUT TOP 5 IN 1996.

Yeah...top 5.....at his position.

Roundball_Rock
11-18-2009, 05:39 PM
kemp numbers were lower had better teammates

Yeah but Mourning had a stacked team too. I think the 96' Sonics were the most talented team of the 90's but the 97' Heat were not far behind. They had arguably the second best center in the game behind Shaq given the decline of the aging Hakeem, Ewing, and Robinson; they had the second best PG in Tim Hardaway, Jamal Mashburn at SF and defensive stalwarts PJ Brown, Dan Majerle and Kurt Thomas. Mourning's scoring declined from 23 ppg to 20 ppg with Hardaway's arrival. Now 23 ppg may not sound great but you have to remember this was an era where scoring was way down. 23 ppg then was good enough to rank 7th in the leagye in scoring.

Unfortunately we never saw these two have full primes. A basketball player's prime is usually between ages 28-31 and Mourning was only healthy when he was 28 and 29 because of his tragic disease. He may very well have put up career numbers or 2000 and 2001 if he remained healthy. In Kemp's case he played until he was 33 without any major injury problems but he torpedoed himself with his weight issues. He averaged 21 ppg even while way out of shape in Cleveland. I would saw Kemp was probably slightly better offensively but Mourning was vastly better defensively and hence Mourning was the better player.

Biddy77
11-18-2009, 05:40 PM
Yeah...top 5.....at his position.

This.

You have to be a legit go-to guy to be top 5 overall.

robertshaw_1
11-18-2009, 06:19 PM
Yeah...top 5.....at his position.

im just talking about 1996.....
top 5 overall that season...only that....

JohnnySic
11-18-2009, 06:26 PM
He was never top 5. He wasn't even a top 5 big man with the likes of Olajuwon, Shaq, The Mailman, Ewing, Barkley, Robinson and Zo around
Webber Webber Webber. No one even mentions Chris Webber. Its like the guy is in a time warp.

ShaqAttack3234
11-18-2009, 06:35 PM
Webber Webber Webber. No one even mentions Chris Webber. Its like the guy is in a time warp.

Webber was frequently injured and he played on some bad teams when Kemp was in his prime. A healthy C-Webb was a more complete player, but really when I think of C-Webb, I think of the Kings version.

Rake2204
11-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Thanks for the Kemp tribute, White Chocolate. I acknowledge he's not on the same tier as the elites, but I still can't get enough of his dunks. He was absolutely electric. I love the Payton to Kemp lob at the tail end of the Sonics/Warriors playoff game (where Kemp rises off one foot, dunks it with two hands and swings around the rim).

CB4GOATPF
11-18-2009, 06:43 PM
Indeed Kemp was a Top 10 Player in the 90s for some years and at one point Top 3-4 at the PF Position behined Barkley (till 1995 the best), Malone ofcourse (at one point Kemp was Top 2, untill old unleaping-overweight-back crippled-knee injured Barkley destroyed him in the 97 WCSF), Webber (the overall 3rd Best PF of the 90s till Duncan arrived) and sometimes getting in the way Vin Baker (a total waste)

Player Efficiency Rating

1993-94 NBA 22.9 (6)
1994-95 NBA 21.7 (10)
1995-96 NBA 22.6 (10)
1998-99 NBA 23.6 (6)

He was among the Best Defenders in the Game CONSISTANTLY. People fail to over look the fact that it was KEMP THE ONE THAT WAS THE BEST SONICS DEFENDER its not like Payton was the Only Good-Great Defender of the Sonics :no:

Defensive Rating

1992-93 NBA 100.0 (7)
1993-94 NBA 95.8 (4)
1995-96 NBA 97.1 (2)
1996-97 NBA 99.0 (10)
1997-98 NBA 96.1 (3)
Career NBA 100.1 (49)

Kemp can easily be overrated by fans who think athletic ability, speed, quickness, leaping etc ability will inmedietly make him a A Great Player. That will make you above average but Kemp became great at one point do to his work ethic.

Than really played great D, was a Great Shot Blocker, Solid Rebounder and a MONSTER FINISHER: what Malone and Barkley where as Fas Break Finishers till about 1994....this dude was Probably the Best at During the 90s as whole, especially Alley Opp Finishes (Shaq and Kemp the Best)

But also he is Constantly UNDERRATED by Fans who know the game because they fail to recognize what MONSTER DEFENDER he was, Good-Great Rebounder, Unselfish Player, Hard Worker and Finisher he Was.

The man was not very smart, fundamentally sound, b-ball iqued or skilled and was a below average passer but "he knew his limitations" and only took the right amount of shots.

From 1990 to 99 The man averaged 17.9 PPG..around 52-53% FG on ONLY AROUND 12.5-13.0 FGAs PG = Unselfish

The Man Knew He Was a Lousy Shooter, Ballhandler (many of his flashy coast to coasts where indeed travels-but atleast in the 90s there was more contact), Post Player although he had a Solid JUMP HOOK but made it to himself to be a TEAM PLAYER combining with Payton as one of the Best Duos in the the 90s: with the Stockton-Malone (as the Best), the Jordan-Pippen (2nd Best. They had a Deeper Team thabn the Jazz: Grant, then Toni, Rodman, Harper) right there with the Shaq-Penny and the Hakeem-Drexler duos.

That 1996 Sonics was the Best Team of the 90s Not To Win a Ring despite the the 93 Suns where the only one to win 2 Games at Chicago or the Stockton-Malone Jazz came twice.

They where Deeper, Better Defending and Game Creating Passing Teams than both the Suns and Jazz (Payton, Detlef, Perkins, Hawkins) although they needed one BIG EFFICIENCY SCORER and more mental toughness (Payton as the man in those terms)

Game to 2 of the 96 Finals...Just Steps away from beating the 72-20 Chicago Team at home and maybe at the end of the series forcing a game 7!

Kemp is easily the most underrated player of the 90s

More than Payton himself, Hill or D-Rob

Lets remember till the 1998-99 Season before Injuries Kemp Was ELITE

Just like Grant Hill was easily the Best or 2nd Best SF with Pippen till 2000..his injury

And Robinson, was a former shell do to injuries of bimself 1996 on...

IMO: KEMP = HOF!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_42w5-R0zz2g/SskXsx1d3QI/AAAAAAAAI-I/jhWSPBsxO74/s400/shawn+kemp+dunks+on+robert+horry.bmp

http://noolmusic.com/z_pics/shawn_kemp_-_block_on_michael_jordan.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SDQH6ZH9L._SL500_AA280_.jpg

SHAWN KEMP - THE REIGNMAN VID

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi1fkMUJJ1s&feature=related

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii3pZGy890k&feature=PlayList&p=62B839A265F58C3C&index=22&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL

etc WHOLE VIDEO ON HIS STORY...ENJOY...

Flashbeanie
11-18-2009, 10:28 PM
It should also be pointed out (if it was already) that Kemp increased his scoring average in each of his first 7 seasons. Much like Amare, he always improved in the offseason, at least early in his career. I wouldn't say he's a great defender. The Sonics of the 90s were much like the Suns of the 2000s -- too small in the middle, and a scrub team like Denver was able to knock them off in 1994. God, I still hate seeing that image of Mutombo lying on the floor with the ball to his head. Kemp was very unselfish. He frequently set picks for Payton at the top of the key. In fact, I would say that Payton was a little too ball-dominating of a point guard. He may have contained Jordan in the 96 finals, but his offense stunk, and it was really Kemp who was the MVP of the team during the finals.

MMKM
11-18-2009, 11:01 PM
First

http://hem.passagen.se/gbbk/kemp.jpg

Then

http://lowposts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/fat_kemp.jpg

Now

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7662/shawnkemptyronebiggumsbd9.jpg

CB4GOATPF
11-20-2009, 05:15 AM
It should also be pointed out (if it was already) that Kemp increased his scoring average in each of his first 7 seasons. Much like Amare, he always improved in the offseason, at least early in his career. I wouldn't say he's a great defender. The Sonics of the 90s were much like the Suns of the 2000s -- too small in the middle, and a scrub team like Denver was able to knock them off in 1994. God, I still hate seeing that image of Mutombo lying on the floor with the ball to his head. Kemp was very unselfish. He frequently set picks for Payton at the top of the key. In fact, I would say that Payton was a little too ball-dominating of a point guard. He may have contained Jordan in the 96 finals, but his offense stunk, and it was really Kemp who was the MVP of the team during the finals.

He Was a Great Defender but constantly overlooked because people wanted to see his Alley Oop Dunks and Finishes instead of Notice His Good All Around Game....

Defensive Rating

1992-93 NBA 100.0 (7)
1993-94 NBA 95.8 (4)
1995-96 NBA 97.1 (2)
1996-97 NBA 99.0 (10)
1997-98 NBA 96.1 (3)
Career NBA 100.1 (49)

blazerjimmy
11-22-2009, 03:19 PM
Kemp was one of my favorite non-Blazer players from the 90s, until he got all pissy because the Sonics gave Jim McIlvaine that ridiculous contract which paid the guy more than Kemp....then he got traded and did his best Oliver Miller impression. Just read recently that his son had signed to play at Alabama next year......no wait, Auburn.

White Chocolate
11-22-2009, 08:53 PM
Kemp was one of my favorite non-Blazer players from the 90s, until he got all pissy because the Sonics gave Jim McIlvaine that ridiculous contract which paid the guy more than Kemp....then he got traded and did his best Oliver Miller impression. Just read recently that his son had signed to play at Alabama next year......no wait, Auburn.


He had every right to be pissy. Kemp at the time was putting up around 18/11, over 50% from the field, and was an elite defender. WTF did McIlvaine do to earn that contract?

dnyk1337
11-22-2009, 09:17 PM
Did I just really read this?


Shawn Kemp's ball-handling skills were easily the best of any Power Forward in history.

White Chocolate
11-22-2009, 09:42 PM
Did I just really read this?


Assume it was sarcasm. Anyone that's seen Kemp play knows he was a sh!tty ball handler. He may have come across as a good ball handler to those that only saw his highlights.

HighFlyer23
11-22-2009, 10:08 PM
he pulled off one of the sickest moves against rodman in the finals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTPV2r2s1k8

started tbagin him after :lol

G.O.A.T
11-22-2009, 11:37 PM
Awesome post White Chocolate.

I remember when Kemp was going to come straight out of HS and everyone was so against it; he enrolled at a JC and I don't think he ever played, then he hits the NBA and just starts wowing people with is ups and powerful explosiveness

Game Six of the 1993 WCF is Kemp at his best. .

Lebron23
01-08-2014, 02:02 AM
I love his signature shoes. He was the best player in the 1996 NBA Finals. Love his blocked shot against Mike in that series.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/nk_wp_media/uploads/2013/01/Shawn-Kemp-Reebok-Signature-Shoe-History.jpg

Trentknicks
01-09-2014, 07:28 PM
Just watched this on youtube and was pretty shocked to see so many posters ripping him on his ballhandling, dude regularly did coast to coasts, barely see ANY real bigs do that today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt9fMirt_qA

-23-
01-09-2014, 08:14 PM
he pulled off one of the sickest moves against rodman in the finals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTPV2r2s1k8

started tbagin him after :lol


Pure ownage :biggums:

Round Mound
01-09-2014, 08:46 PM
[B]Shawn Kemp had Very Good Handles for a 6

bizil
01-09-2014, 08:56 PM
http://throwbacksnw.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kempandpayton.jpg

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2008/08/21/2008036656.jpg

1991-1997
-18.2 PPG
-10.7 RPG
-2.0 APG
-1.4 SPG
-1.7 BPG
-32.5 MPG
-52.6% from the field
-73.9% from the foul line
-5x All-Star
-3x All-NBA 2nd team
-Top 10 in MVP voting 3x

Playoffs 1991-1997
-18.7 PPG
-10.7 RPG
-2.1 APG
-1.3 SPG
-1.8 BPG
-50.5% from the field
-79.5% from the foul line

1996 Finals vs Chicago
-23.3 PPG
-10.0 RPG
-2.2 APG
-1.3 SPG
-2.0 BPG
-55.1% from the field
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALdNck0f2o (mix tape)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQeMhYJe5JA (top 10 dunks)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNIj9ZYCF48 (mix tape from the '96 Finals)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrc_jPDrVnI (dunk on Horry in game 5 '93)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1zY0QZUnEI (dunk on Laimbeer in '90)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTPV2r2s1k8 (dunk on Rodman in game 4 '96)
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Strengths
-Very efficient scorer
-Excellent rebounder
-Excellent defender
-Freakish athleticism for a 6'10" PF
-Decent foul shooter for a big man
-Underrated mid range J
-Clutch
-Ability to play the 4 and 5 positions effectively

Weaknesses
-Poor ball handler
-Far too aggressive at times
-Extremely foul prone
-Food
-Women
-Coke
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Player comparison- Amare Stoudemire with a few less points and far better defense

:applause: :applause:

I agree with your analysis except for the handles part. Kemp had one of the best handles for a 6'10 and up PF ever. It's actually one of the things that made him unique along with of course his freak athletic ability. Kemp, Mcdyess, Amare, and Blake are all kind of from the same family tree in terms of strong, freak athlete PF's around 6'10.