Are Whites Athletes Discriminated Against? [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

ALBballer

11-25-2009, 01:16 PM

[QUOTE]There are no white starting cornerbacks in the NFL out of 64 players who start at that position. In fact, there are no white cornerbacks in the entire league. There are zero starting white tailbacks. No white running back has run for over 1,000 yards in nearly a quarter of a century. Only about five percent of starting wide receivers and safeties are white.

Has this amazing and now permanent disparity in a sport that whites have always loved and played so well come about solely because of "black supremacy" in athleticism? The NFL was integrated racially in the 1960s,

ALBballer

11-25-2009, 01:19 PM

LOL @ The Travis Jervey nut licking.

http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11040&title=travis-jervey

A stormmfront-esque forum.

ALBballer

11-25-2009, 01:23 PM

So they showed the starting lineups for the Eagles offense and the Skins defense so far. Two white starters for Philly and one paleface for the Blackskins. That makes 3 white starters and 19 black starters (they did not announce the starters for the Skins offense and Philly defense but it isn't much better).

So, no racism here. Nope - the NFL is strictly a colorblind meritocracy. Good thing they kept Rush Limbaugh from owning a small piece of the Rams. We wouldn't want any racism in the NFL. Gotta keep the good ol' boys network strong.

Not sure why you Caste Football extremists are so disgruntled and hostile to America's game. Obama should investigate you for un-American activities.

LOL

Rasheed1

11-25-2009, 01:23 PM

I dont think there are many white guys who could compete and beat some some of the corners playing today, but then again I would suspect that coaches take shortcuts and there are some white guys who could have excelled at those positions if given a shot.. they probably need to be looked at better.. are there any college, or High School white corners who should be getting props currently?

if they are being discriminated against, it is mostly by white coaches and GMs.. the stereotypes of who can do what in football definitely weren't made up by a bunch of minorities..

phoenix18

11-25-2009, 01:25 PM

LOL
:roll: :roll:

IcanzIIravor

11-25-2009, 01:28 PM

I think they have punter and fg kicker on lock down still.

endorphins

11-25-2009, 01:31 PM

I would love to see a great white runningback. he would immediatly gain the support of every white person in the world

phoenix18

11-25-2009, 01:32 PM

I would love to see a great white runningback. he would immediatly gain the support of every white person in the world
Tim Tebow says hi.

Rasheed1

11-25-2009, 01:34 PM

A stormmfront-esque forum.

just took a look at the web site and stormmfront-esque is a pretty accurate description of that site...

Thorpesaurous

11-25-2009, 01:34 PM

When I was playing basketball in high school, I know of coaches who on there scouting reports would place a dot next to any black player, especially if they knew little else about the player.

There's also a story about a kid who was a top HS RB who wound up in the MAC conference, I don't recall the school, but the kid led the nation in rushing in college as well, and slipped in the NFL draft too. I think he played for the Bears for a few years. Anyway, he's got a story about Bobby Bowden coming to recruit him, and telling him he looked great, but even he couldn't go back to a major program like Florida State with a white RB.

The thing is that it may start from the very beginning. If you've ever read Malcolm Gladwell's outliers, the opening chapter talks about the abundance of Canadian hockey players born in the first quarter of the year, in no small part because the cut off date for youth teams is Jan. 1. If youth coaches are "slotting" kids at 8, 9, 10 years old into positions based on race, and really at that age there isn't a lot to differentiate, as physical maturity hasn't really set in at all. Then those extra years of even menial instruction at that age can snowball over time, and combined with the usual slotting as players move upward in a program (the QB from the Jr team becomes the QB from the Sr team), it can really add up from the bottom up.

JtotheIzzo

11-25-2009, 01:40 PM

white players are infinitely more marketable at the pro levels.

not really buying this.

endorphins

11-25-2009, 01:50 PM

Tim Tebow says hi.

I mean in the NFL. I would love to see Tebow succeed as a tailback but i'm not sure he will. I want to see a nasty white runningback. Like a white AP.

KeylessEntry

11-25-2009, 01:59 PM

Are white sprinters discriminated against by the olympics too?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/08/16/sports/24548244.JPG

JtotheIzzo

11-25-2009, 02:03 PM

Are white sprinters discriminated against by the olympics too?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/08/16/sports/24548244.JPG

this pretty much sums it up.

JEFFERSON MONEY

11-25-2009, 02:05 PM

The reign of the white man ENDS STARTING NOW.

phoenix18

11-25-2009, 02:05 PM

Are white sprinters discriminated against by the olympics too?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/08/16/sports/24548244.JPG
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Jamaica has three in the race.:oldlol:

EDIT: Is Bolt's shoe untied???

LMAO.

He won an Olympic Race with his shoe untied.

ALBballer

11-25-2009, 02:16 PM

Meticode

11-25-2009, 02:20 PM

No. White athletes are not discriminated against. Black athletes are just better genetically engineered to be better runners and jumpers. It's as simple as that. For instance some breeds of horses are better runners than others usually. And that's simply just the way it is. It's just what nature chooses.

KubiliusF

11-25-2009, 03:06 PM

i think the problem for us whites is that naturally we are not as naturally as low in bodyfat . And that means a LOT in track and field.

sergiorodriguez

11-25-2009, 03:42 PM

Toby Gerhart will break this mold and become the next 1000 yard rushing white tailback in the NFL

Also black guys are just better athletes. Look at Shannon Brown, I never seen a white guy jump like that.

And I never seen a white guy who is like 5'10 220 pounds and can run a 4.2 40.

If one ever does that, he would be in the NFL.

sergiorodriguez

11-25-2009, 03:46 PM

Why are there so many polynesians in the NFL, compared to the relatively low population of polynesians in the world? is the NFL unfairly favoring polynesians? Nope, they are just flat out amazing athletes on the whole, and genetically superior to every race.

Randy

11-25-2009, 04:35 PM

Toby Gerhart will be "converted" to a FB in the NFL :rolleyes:

BRabbiT

11-25-2009, 05:03 PM

...it may start from the very beginning. If you've ever read Malcolm Gladwell's outliers...Then those extra years of even menial instruction at that age can snowball over time, and combined with the usual slotting as players move upward in a program (the QB from the Jr team becomes the QB from the Sr team), it can really add up from the bottom up.

i'd agree with that theory (gladwell).

33824

11-25-2009, 05:13 PM

The White Man used to breed black slaves like dogs. Strong black males and strong black females had children and the weak did not. Now we have our Lebron James (he's also on roids) and our APs.

LevisJeans

11-25-2009, 05:20 PM

It depends on what you mean by "athletes." I agree, there are few white football players, basketball players, and sprinters, but aren't gymnasts, swimmers, divers, weight lifters, and wrestlers also athletes?

A.M.G.

11-25-2009, 05:54 PM

LOL at "it is clear that whites are as good if not better athletes than blacks." And they back this up by stating that whites win over 90% of medals at the WINTER Olympics. Well no ****, what ****ing other race does anything in the damn winter olympics? The number is down to 70% of medal winners being white for the Summer Olympics, the actual Olympics, the one where sports relevant to football athleticism take place. And of course they do not take into account which sports the whites are winning medals in (hint: guess which race wins all the running medals, the ones which might have relevance to football?).

I sense some racist butthurtness.

Anyways, blacks are naturally faster, longer limbed, better jumpers, and better natural athletes overall when it comes down to it. We can pretend that isn't true, but it is and you know it. Also, they have street hunger. A lot of white dudes grow up as suburban wusses or fatasses these days, the economy is open to them, and they can always fall back on their parents for money. If a black dude in football doesn't make the NFL, it's back to the ghetto and the dead-end job/drug dealing.

I'm sorry, that's a generalization, but seriously, if the white dudes were good enough at defensive and running positions, the schools are not going "systematically not recruit them." Believe it or not, D1 schools care about winning and winning alone, as do NFL teams. It's a ridiculous claim (and one totally unsupported by evidence from what I read).

Again, if there is a huge disparity between the number of blacks and whites at a position or group of similar positions, the white dudes should be trying to be better if they want to get recruited to big schools and drafted to the NFL. There is no pro-black conspiracy, unless you consider evolution making some blacks athletically superior to anyone else, and schools/pro teams recruiting them accordingly in order to win, to be a conspiracy.

I'm probably taking this too seriously. Sorry.

A.M.G.

11-25-2009, 06:14 PM

Looked at that site a little more, and good god do they have a rod up their ass. They really don't like black people.

HAzE024

11-25-2009, 06:29 PM

LOL at "it is clear that whites are as good if not better athletes than blacks." And they back this up by stating that whites win over 90% of medals at the WINTER Olympics. Well no ****, what ****ing other race does anything in the damn winter olympics? The number is down to 70% of medal winners being white for the Summer Olympics, the actual Olympics, the one where sports relevant to football athleticism take place. And of course they do not take into account which sports the whites are winning medals in (hint: guess which race wins all the running medals, the ones which might have relevance to football?)

First of all, 70%>50% still.
Second of all, who said anything about football? The title the thread is "Are Whites Athletes Discriminated Against?"

That said, there is no conspiracy - certain races are better at certain skills in certain sports.

I sense some racist butthurtness.

Anyways, blacks are naturally faster, longer limbed, better jumpers, and better natural athletes overall when it comes down to it. We can pretend that isn't true, but it is and you know it. Also, they have street hunger. A lot of white dudes grow up as suburban wusses or fatasses these days, the economy is open to them, and they can always fall back on their parents for money. If a black dude in football doesn't make the NFL, it's back to the ghetto and the dead-end job/drug dealing.

I sense some racist butthurtness.

emsteez forreal

11-25-2009, 06:43 PM

i don't really care. black people are usually more athletic, so of course a college is gonna look for black athletes. black people still gotta fight through racism to get through the corporate ladder, it's only fair whites have to fight to get into top positions in sports. :oldlol:

and if a white person really is an elite athlete, they'll come through in the end. (i.e steve nash, larry bird, dirk nowitzki)

A.M.G.

11-25-2009, 06:48 PM

First of all, 70%>50% still.
Second of all, who said anything about football? The title the thread is "Are Whites Athletes Discriminated Against?"

That said, there is no conspiracy - certain races are better at certain skills in certain sports.

I sense some racist butthurtness.
Yeah, that was pretty racist. But it's what TV tells me. If black people don't succeed in either professional sports or entertainment, it's back to the ghetto with them. And if TV is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Quizno

11-25-2009, 07:18 PM

Also, they have street hunger. A lot of white dudes grow up as suburban wusses or fatasses these days, the economy is open to them, and they can always fall back on their parents for money. If a black dude in football doesn't make the NFL, it's back to the ghetto and the dead-end job/drug dealing.

i don't think that's entirely fair. i'm a suburban wuss and i play varsity basketball! but my point is that i don't think it's about white people "falling back" on their parents for money, i just think that the majority of white with a decent standard of living realize that there are waaaaay more dependable jobs out there rather than pursuing professional sports, where even the most elite athletes from any poor or rich neighborhood probably won't make it.

JtotheIzzo

11-25-2009, 08:20 PM

there was a concern in NZ a few years back that the white rugby player was disappearing. more and more spots on top sides were being filled by people of polynesian and pac-islander descent. a study found that a lot of pac-islanders mature faster than caucasians and are able to use that advantage to fill starting spots on top youth teams which they in turn parlay into spots professionally.

in the US, college sports often take a meat market mentality. coaches recruit body types and sizes and believe (through their arrogance and inflated ego) that they can coach the kid to become a great player. the old "can't teach size" adage. most people through anecdotal observation can realize that black kids are often bigger and stronger in the later years of high school.

this is not an anti-white bias or trend, this is just the reality of the situation.

once you heighten the competition and the stakes in younger age groups you get elitism, and the kids who mature more quickly (ala Malcolm Gladwell's 'Outliers') have more opportunity.

bottom line is it pays to be an early bloomer in HS, this maximizes what recruiters can see. Late bloomers usually have to work their way up the ladder.

[Larry] having said that, [David/] white's have been assumed to be better quarterbacks etc.. for years, so there are a million stories of great black HS QBs who immediately get moved to DB in college.

kshutts1

11-25-2009, 08:37 PM

To give just one example, even though whites are only 10 percent of the world's population, they win over 90 percent of the medals at the Winter Olympics and over 70 percent of the medals at the Summer Olympics, including many medals in sprinting and jumping.

Something else that doesn't seem to be taken in to account is how many black people are afforded the opportunity to excel in sports, and eventually go on to the Olympics?

I don't know any statistics, so I'm speaking strictly from a generalization here (and it may be WAY off base, if so I apologize) but isn't the majority of the actually, straight-up poor in the world black? A lot of Africa, etc, so while they greatly increase the % of black people in the world, how poor they are, the squalor they live in, etc, do not translate to athletic competitiveness or competing in the Olympics...

White people seem to be afforded every opportunity.. or at least more so than black people, as a whole, and this article seems to be missing that point, and twisting it to something else (in terms of the Olympics)

jody

01-07-2010, 08:10 PM

well, it looks like the castefootball guys noticed this thread today.

their thread about this thread:

http://castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11388&PID=161240

phoenix18

01-07-2010, 08:13 PM

well, it looks like the castefootball guys noticed this thread today.

their thread about this thread:

http://castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11388&PID=161240

found this bunch of crap online. It seems these w*ggers and negroes don't believe anything we say here on Castefootball. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154621

Notice how these w*ggers mention storm-front. Any white pride is considered racist even by whites. That's how pathetic some whites have become.

Who is getting an account first?

EDIT: LOL @ negroes. We ALL know what he wanted to say.

artex

01-07-2010, 08:15 PM

50inchvertical

01-07-2010, 09:00 PM

Ever consider the source? White people only 10% of the world's population, since when? Win 90% of winter sports medals? Yea because I'm sure all the red, brown, black, and yellow races are sending tons of prospects out but just simply can't cut it. :oldlol: And even more :oldlol: at them for trying to argue their site isn't racist. Angry white dudes mad because Lincoln forced them to have to tolerate integration and so they smile up all the mud races faces out in real life with nothing to say, but can't wait to get home to get on the internet and release all their pent up hate. :oldlol:

brownheatley

01-07-2010, 09:16 PM

Usain is insane!!! Talent at it's best I believe that will never be broken.

Maga_1

01-07-2010, 09:22 PM

What about Rudy Fernandez in dunk contest?
He was robbed cause he's white or cause he's european?

fos

01-07-2010, 09:26 PM

Cheer up though, white guys are smart (sure asians are smarter, but when you add in white guys superior athletic ability and height, it's a no-brainer... whites are pretty balanced). It's like an online role playing game and asians are the really good wizards, blacks the really great melee fighters, and the whites are the balanced, good at both great at neither. :D

godofgods

01-07-2010, 09:40 PM

Absolutely yes.

32jazz

01-08-2010, 05:45 PM

There's also a story about a kid who was a top HS RB who wound up in the MAC conference, I don't recall the school, but the kid led the nation in rushing in college as well, and slipped in the NFL draft too. I think he played for the Bears for a few years. Anyway, he's got a story about Bobby Bowden coming to recruit him, and telling him he looked great, but even he couldn't go back to a major program like Florida State with a white RB.

The major college route is not a valid explanation as scouts will find you at ANY college you attend if real talent is there.

There are dozens of outstanding/average active black players(DB's/Rb's/WR's) who attended small historically black colleges/Universities all around the NFL(not nearly as many as past years however):

Donald Driver(Packers/Alcorn)
Domonique Rodgers Cromartie(Cards/Alcorn)
Rashaen Mathis(Jags)
Antoine Bethea(Colts)
Fakir Brown(Rams/Grambling)
Nick Harper(Packers)
Drayton Florence(Bills)
Cletis Gordon(Cowboys)
Dante Wesley(Panthers)
F Walker(Ravens)
G Pope (Bengals)
Kalvin pearson(Lions)
M Coe(Colts)
G Fassit(Saints)

And many other recent retired outstanding Black( Db's/Backs/recveivers) from small Historically Black colleges just off the top of my head(there are many more):

Jerry Rice
Everson Walls /Albert Lewis/ Andrew Glover/ Jake Reed(Grambling)
Aeneas Williams(Southern)
Gene Atkinson

Being from Louisiana I know that tiny Grambling State University has more NFL Hall of Famers(4) than a 'Major' like LSU(3). If you can play Football scouts will find you no matter where you play really.

NFL Hall of Famers(DB's/Wr's/Rb's 'only') from small Historically Black colleges.

Jerry Rice
Walter Payton
Mel Blount(Southern )
Charlie Joiner / Willie Brown/ Tank Younger(Grambling)
Bob Hayes
John Stallworth
Leroy Kelly
Ken Houston
Lem Barney
Marion Motley

If White players(Db's/Wr's/Rb's) are overlooked at major colleges there are many alternative routes to the NFL if they could really play.:confusedshrug:

Randy

01-08-2010, 05:57 PM

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/cs/sports/m-footbl/04action/chadron-woodhead-101704.jpg

[QUOTE]Woodhead did not receive an invite to the NFL Scouting Combine so he had to use his pro day to show his abilities. According to a report on NFLDraftWatch.net, he ran the 40-yard dash in a time of 4.33 to 4.38 seconds which would have been the second-fastest among all running backs at the NFL Combine in March 2008. He posted the best pro-agility time of 4.03 seconds, the second-best vertical jump (38