Guys you wouldn't believe this, but i found a sure-win way to play roulette.

[tgan3]

Really, its all about odds and probabilities. I have played on a simulator and I profited.

Anyways this strategy is not the martingale strategy( though it is similar ) and you would not bet over the table limit.

though using this method you wouldn't earn much( your gains are steady but slow ). Over 48 roulette spins on the computer simulator I profitted $52.

There is very very very low risk of losing a $200 bet, but the probability of losing that $200 is approx 1/2222. And the fact that I profitted $52 with just 48 roulette spins would cancel out the fact that you would risk losing $200 as you would still profit in the long run.

You guys probably think im crazy, but im speaking the truth and wont care the fact that you believe it anot.

Im just wondering if any of you guys here recognize this strategy and is currently using it too?

[BarberSchool]

THIS JUST IN:


Gaming commission rep. Peter DiCaro scheduling removal of Roulette from nation's casinos (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38825)

Get it while the gettin' is good, folks!

[tgan3]

Believe me. There is no strategy to beat Roulette other than luck. Like any other non-poker casino games, they are all about LUCK.

If you want to have profit in those kinds of games, bet big fast. If you win, you win big. If you lose, you have a spare time to do something else without losing money to the casino.

LOL, thats what I thought initally, too. And trust me, you can earn ALOT from roulette. I tweaked my strategy a little bit and i profitted $182 from 48 roulette spins. It is fool-proof trust me.

If you interested in knowing how I did it just holla back at me, you then can test it out at any online simulator you have. If you lose money I'll cut my d1ck off. Im that confident.

In fact on my calculations i'll make $330 in slightly less then 100 roulette spins. How can I make so much if its just blind luck? U go figure.

[kenuffff]

Really, its all about odds and probabilities. I have played on a simulator and I profited.

Anyways this strategy is not the martingale strategy( though it is similar ) and you would not bet over the table limit.

though using this method you wouldn't earn much( your gains are steady but slow ). Over 48 roulette spins on the computer simulator I profitted $52.

There is very very very low risk of losing a $200 bet, but the probability of losing that $200 is approx 1/2222. And the fact that I profitted $52 with just 48 roulette spins would cancel out the fact that you would risk losing $200 as you would still profit in the long run.

You guys probably think im crazy, but im speaking the truth and wont care the fact that you believe it anot.

Im just wondering if any of you guys here recognize this strategy and is currently using it too?

bet on red and black and you always win

[tgan3]

bet on red and black and you always win

Lol, im talking about actually profitting from it. Like I said you guys won't believe me.

[pst]

In fact on my calculations i'll make $330 in slightly less then 100 roulette spins. How can I make so much if its just blind luck? U go figure.


If you truly think you can make 1.65% per spin you are retarded. With a $2,000 bet, assume 100 bets a day, you would be banking $3,300 a day...or $1.2 mil a year. Nope


EDIT: for bad math

[pst]

People always claim to have strategies when they win a casino game. Then, those strategies are nowhere to be found when they lose.

Unless the roulette is broke, making it bias, there is NO strategy to win the roulette other than a good money managing so you can get out when you start to lose.

The good thing is you have not played the real game yet.

Yup, the only two games that the player can get an edge over the house is blackjack and video poker.

With roulette, you can't overcome the 0 and 00 in the longrun...no matter what strategy you create.

It's fun to try and out think the system, but it's not possible.

[kenuffff]

casino strategies are stupid, its just a way for people to get more rich off your dumbass thinking you can beat a game that is pure luck like roulette. i think blackjack is the only game where you can tip the odds in your favor , and of course poker, but i like gambling for fun not to try and make it a job

[tgan3]

casino strategies are stupid, its just a way for people to get more rich off your dumbass thinking you can beat a game that is pure luck like roulette. i think blackjack is the only game where you can tip the odds in your favor , and of course poker, but i like gambling for fun not to try and make it a job

ok im a dumbass, but i profitted like close to $1000 just by simulating roulette online for a few-several hours. Yeah it is pure luck that ive managed to profit the $1000. :lol

[~primetime~]

I wouldn't mind hearing it...

although that game is older than Jesus, I do find it hard to believe that someone just NOW figured out how to counter the odds...

[tgan3]

I wouldn't mind hearing it...

although that game is older than Jesus, I do find it hard to believe that someone just NOW figured out how to counter the odds...

hey primetime, glad you believe me on this, ive send u a pm.

Would you guys believe me if I can convert primetime to say that this works? :lol

[HylianNightmare]

I wouldn't mind hearing it...

although that game is older than Jesus, I do find it hard to believe that someone just NOW figured out how to counter the odds...
this, lets hear it

[~primetime~]

hey primetime, glad you believe me on this, ive send u a pm.

Would you guys believe me if I can convert primetime to say that this works? :lol
I don't IM...and I'm not giving out my e-mail

you're gonna just have to show us in here...

[tgan3]

I don't IM...and I'm not giving out my e-mail

you're gonna just have to show us in here...

Then too bad, im not going to just tell everyone over here. If not casino's might stop using roulettes. lmao.

[~primetime~]

Then too bad, im not going to just tell everyone over here. If not casino's might stop using roulettes. lmao.
is it bet $1, then if you lose bet $3, then if you lose bet $9...ect

^^^ repeat the entire night till you get tired?

if so that doesn't work...

[pst]

If you had a system that worked, you would tell no one. and end up retiring on some tropical ocean instead of try to brag on ISH. The truth is you have a adjusted martingale system that may work in the short term for a couple of bets. But unless you have an unlimited bank roll and have access to a no limit table, your strategy will eventually blow up and is unable to beat the house odds.

[tgan3]

is it bet $1, then if you lose bet $3, then if you lose bet $9...ect

^^^ repeat the entire night till you get tired?

if so that doesn't work...

No its not that strategy, that is called the martingale system. And its very high risk as you would likely bet over limit.

For my strategy it is relatively low risk. Like ive said ive tried betting on an online simulator for hours and I managed to profit $1000. So it definitely works.

[tgan3]

If you had a system that worked, you would tell no one. and end up retiring on some tropical ocean instead of try to brag on ISH. The truth is you have a adjusted martingale system that may work in the short term for a couple of bets. But unless you have an unlimited bank roll and have access to a no limit table, your strategy will eventually blow up and is unable to beat the house odds.

Yes, it is an adjusted martingale system. However, you wouldn't bet over the limit using my system. Like ive said, ive tried playing on an online simulator with like $500( definitely limited ) and ive profitted $1000(read: i ended up with $1500 from the initial $500) just by 1 day of playing.

If you're interested pm me, i'll tell you just to prove to you im right.

And of course you said that i'll tell no one, but i dont see any harm in just telling one or two to prove myself right, and also to validate that this works if it also works for them.

I can easily earn $$, and i plan to do so, just that there isn't any casinos where i live, but there is one coming up in the future. And also, im only 20 years old so I might not be able to enter some of the casinos.

[~primetime~]

that 1/2222 will even itself out after a while...

in poker, getting pocket aces is 1/256...and it happens ALL THE TIME...I have even gotten AA back-to-back

1/2222 sounds and looks like a very slim chance...but if you are at a table all day, it is very likely it will hit...

[tgan3]

that 1/2222 will even itself out after a while...

in poker, getting pocket aces is 1/256...and it happens ALL THE TIME...I have even gotten AA back-to-back

1/2222 sounds and looks like a very slim chance...but if you are at a table all day, it is very likely it will hit...

Like ive said, the profit you make will far outweigh that 1/2222 chance of losing. ( that means even if you lose after 2222 games, you would profit more from the 2222 games you played )

Anyway, I dont expect you guys to believe me since its so unbelievable and I previously didnt believe it myself. Why dont someone who's interested just pm me i'll tell him/her and get him/her to validate on this board that the strategy I come up with works?

[qrich]

Is it betting on all but a couple of the numbers and slowly building up? If so, thats pretty old.:oldlol:

[answer]

can you send me a pm with your strategy? i'll give it a shot on the bodoglife and see what happens and then i'll check it out at an indian casino

[tgan3]

Hey guys, ive pm-ed the strategy to primetime, lets see what he thinks about my strategy. ( from a third party perspective on whether it works ).

[~primetime~]

Hey guys, ive pm-ed the strategy to primetime, lets see what he thinks about my strategy. ( from a third party perspective on whether it works ).
alright...give me a little time here...

[tgan3]

alright...give me a little time here...

Yea sure, i believe it will work for you unless you're very very very unlucky. Like ive said, ive profitted $1000 from a limited $500 from an online simulator in one day.

Am I a genius or what?

[~primetime~]

I can already see a huge flaw in the system without trying it out...

the wheel's past has absolutely ZILCH to do with what it is going to do the next time, as far as the math/odds are concerned, it just doesn't effect them...

example:

it has hit black 100 times in row some how?

there is still a 50/50% chance it will hit black again (excluding the greens), making it 101 times...those past 100 hits mean NOTHING, it is for suckers...




but chill out, I am still gonna try it...just wanted to get that in...

[tgan3]

I can already see a huge flaw in the system without trying it out...

the wheel's past has absolutely ZILCH to do with what it is going to do the next time, as far as the math/odds are concerned, it just doesn't effect them...

example:

it has hit black 100 times in row some how?

there is still a 50/50% chance it will hit black again (excluding the greens), making it 101 times...those past 100 hits mean NOTHING, it is for suckers...




but chill out, I am still gonna try it...just wanted to get that in...

Just try it, it works cause ive tried it too. Even, if you lose that last bet( you know what im talking about ). The odds are so freaking low that you probably make more of a profit from the bets building up to the one that you make a loss.

Just try it and tell me what you think, dont be so negative. :)

[Da KO King]

I'd like to check it out for myself. No harm in giving it a look over.

[tgan3]

Hey primetime, so did you make a profit or loss?

I'll say you try it for 100 roulette wheelspins and see your profit(or loss). Though I guarantee you would 99% of the time make about a few hundered dollars from 100 spins.

edit: just wondering though, how many spins have you tried and did you make a profit? Just tell us no matter how little the amount is. I dont think its really that complex though, its pretty simple once you get the hang of it.

[~primetime~]

Hey primetime, so did you make a profit or loss?

I'll say you try it for 100 roulette wheelspins and see your profit(or loss). Though I guarantee you would 99% of the time make about a few hundered dollars from 100 spins.

edit: just wondering though, how many spins have you tried and did you make a profit? Just tell us no matter how little the amount is.
okay...give me a little time...

just going here:

http://www.freeroulette.com/Roulette.html

first one on google...I think all the odds are correct as in Vegas...

this is gonna take a little time for me to get down, just hold on...

[tgan3]

okay...give me a little time...

just going here:

http://www.freeroulette.com/Roulette.html

first one on google...I think all the odds are correct as in Vegas...

this is gonna take a little time for me to get down, just hold on...

Also, I forgot to tell u. This works better if you play in a roulette with one "0". common sense. If you're playing with 2 "0"'s, it might not work, or maybe not as well.

since the link you showed me is a roulette with 2 "0"'s.

[~primetime~]

after exactly 100 spins my profit was $314

there has to be something that is missing here, some kind of "juice" that the casino takes that is not there on free sites or something...

also, I don't realy understand WHY this works, but my first try was defenatly a success...


I am going to try again later on another web site...I will give my results

after gettin the system down (takes about 20-30 spins to get the hang of it)...it does seem fairly easy though, I don't see how this is something that could have gone unseen for hundreds of years...lol

if for whatever reason this is real, please don't share it with anyone else...

[pete's montreux]

now im interested

[Knuck the Ficks]

PM me the strategy and I'll look it over.

I'm skeptical though, roulette is an extremely simple game - with independent trials and expected loss I don't see how you could formulate a "sure-in" way to play it.

[pete's montreux]

I would like details as well.

[enayes]

Hi tgan3, can you send me a pm?

I wanna try it out too.

[~primetime~]

tgan3

please don't PM this out to anyone else...PLEASE

let me make sure there is something wrong first...

[pete's montreux]

:roll:

what a greedy prick you are :rolleyes:

[Knuck the Ficks]

tgan3

please don't PM this out to anyone else...PLEASE

Someone's desperate.

tgan3: I'm not an idiot like primetime who thinks that hijacking your strategy will net him enough money to buy three casinos, Pixar and Microsoft. I'm a student of statistics and probability (like you I presume) and am curious to see how a sure-win strategy for roulette could be developed.

[HAzE024]

Someone's desperate.

tgan3: I'm not an idiot like primetime who thinks that hijacking your strategy will net him enough money to buy three casinos, Pixar and Microsoft. I'm a student of statistics and probability (like you I presume) and am curious to see how a sure-win strategy for roulette could be developed.

ditto.

I'm a mathematician, hopefully I can shed some light on the situation?

[~primetime~]

I'm not a mathematician, but this is a good read for soon-to-be gamblers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy
his system includes some of that^^^ which made me right away roll my eyes...but then he replied later as to why it is different here...I don't get though really...

some stuff I found:

[QUOTE][I]Specific betting systems

The numerous even-money bets in roulette have inspired many players over the years to attempt to beat the game by using one or more variations of a Martingale betting strategy, wherein the gamer doubles the bet after every loss, so that the first win would recover all previous losses, plus win a profit equal to the original bet. The problem with this strategy is that, remembering that past results do not affect the future, it is possible for the player to lose so many times in a row, that the player, doubling and redoubling his bets, either runs out of money or hits the table limit. A large financial loss is certain in the long term if the player continued to employ this strategy. Another strategy is the Fibonacci system, where bets are calculated according to the Fibonacci sequence. Regardless of the specific progression, no such strategy can statistically overcome the casino's advantage, since the expected value of each allowed bet is negative.

While not a strategy to win money, former Los Angeles Times editor Andr

[~primetime~]

then there is this:

[QUOTE]In larger casinos, the maximum table limit is higher, so you can double 7, 8, or 9 times without exceeding the limit. However, in order to end up with twice your initial bankroll, you must play even longer. The calculations produce the same results. The probabilities are overwhelming that you will reach the bust streak before you can even double your bankroll.

The conclusion is that players using Martingale strategy pose no threat to a casino. The odds are high that the player will go bust before he is able even to double his money.

Table limits are not specifically designed to prevent players from using Martingale strategy. The table limits exist so that the casino is not gambling more money than they can afford to lose. Statistics[citation needed] as of January 2009 show that the 29 roulette wheels in Downtown gaming Las Vegas average a win amount of $1,114 per day for the last year. Most casinos have a $500 dollar table limit[citation needed] so that they are not risking too much money on a few spins. A casino is a business; and, like any other business, it has to worry about cash flow. Casinos are required to keep enough cash on hand to pay off a reasonable expectation of a gambler's windfall. A small casino with a pit that normally takes in $12

[~primetime~]

I will now try 100 spins on bodog:

http://casino.bodog.com/free-roulette.jsp


will post the results...

since I am used to it now it shouldn't take too long, less than an hour I think


edit: I have a feeling that the extra green slot could be the difference in this thing, as his system onlly sees a roulette board that only has 1 zero...

[pst]

The problem with these strategies is that they all work in the short term. With martingale, 100-200 spins is usually pretty damn successful...but the data set isn't large enough. When you stretch the data set out (thousands of spins), however, the "outlier data" begins to show itself and ruins your gains.

ANYstrategy that double down will fail in the long run. What happens when you are wrong 16 times in a row (it will happen)? The answer: a blown account.

[bagelred]

The very basic strategy to "win" at Roulette is to simply bet black or red. Pick one.

Put $5 on black. You win great. Then switch to red.

If you lose the $5 on black. Double it on black. If you win, make back your loss and win $5. Switch to red. If you lose double again.

Essentially, you keep doubling and doubling until you win a bet. Then just start over. You'll consistently make $5 slowly but surely.

Problem is if you keep doubling and doubling and hit like 10 reds/blacks in a row and keep losing. You are f-cked. You'll either reach the table limit or you'll run out of money.



There is no way to win in roulette. The odds can never be in your favor.

[Knuck the Ficks]

I will now try 100 spins on bodog:

http://casino.bodog.com/free-roulette.jsp


will post the results...

since I am used to it now it shouldn't take too long, less than an hour I think


edit: I have a feeling that the extra green slot could be the difference in this thing, as his system onlly sees a roulette board that only has 1 zero...
Dude, PM me the strategy and I can simulate it hundreds of thousands of times in a software called MATLAB. It would be pretty easy to calculate the probability of ruin.

From what you posted I've become a bit more skeptical. I'm not sure how you could incorporate the history of the board into a betting strategy, or rather how that would be useful since each roll is independent.

[~primetime~]

my bodog $200 test had me in the profit the entire time, but on my 81st roll I went broke

however there were 3 different situations where I was a little confused on what I was supposed to do next...

when I was put in situations where I was supposed to bet big on two different occassions I hit "00"...

it is based on rows and collums...the 1st row (in the front 1, 4, 7, 10, ect) I went 14 staight spins without hitting...that is where I went broke...there was a "00" in the middle of that and I am not sure if I was supposed to increase there or keep my bet the same...

this is something that could make all the difference in the world...



who here is a certified math genius that I can really trust?

[pete's montreux]

prime, you are seriously being an ass

it's this guy's strategy, not yours, you're acting like a f*cking moron

i dont care about it, its just funny how you think you have this power or something "who i can trust" what? stfu

[RidonKs]

it is based on rows and collums...the 1st row (in the front 1, 4, 7, 10, ect) I went 14 staight spins without hitting...that is where I went broke...there was a "00" in the middle of that and I am not sure if I was supposed to increase there or keep my bet the same...

Also, I forgot to tell u. This works better if you play in a roulette with one "0". common sense. If you're playing with 2 "0"'s, it might not work, or maybe not as well.

since the link you showed me is a roulette with 2 "0"'s.

just message the f*cking thing to knuck, prime. :oldlol:

[bisk]

:lol look at that guy being a ****.
We'll just wait till that guy comes online again, and messages us that strategy through PM, since he told us he would.:confusedshrug:
As if these online casinos would notice something with millions and millions of dollars being thrown around on their Roulettes, and we suddenly win a couple of hunderds of dollars.:oldlol:

[~primetime~]

prime, you are seriously being an ass

it's this guy's strategy, not yours, you're acting like a f*cking moron

i dont care about it, its just funny how you think you have this power or something "who i can trust" what? stfu
it is certainly mine t keep now...

just message the f*cking thing to knuck, prime. :oldlol:
he is an ass...



where is intrinsic or gifted mind?...I need a math geek to step up that I can trust please...

might even trust you parade...if you are reading...the smart parade that is...lol

[pete's montreux]

:roll:

prime you're officially a f*cking retard, i cant for this guy to come back online and see you peddling his strategy as your own

you make it so easy to dislike you

[Doomsday Dallas]

Just won $27.00

I'll try it again.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I'm up to $65.00

[Doomsday Dallas]

I'm up $101.00

[AirGauge23]

The reason why it's different online and on a casino is because they use magic spells on the casino to wipe you clean. No lie.

[Doomsday Dallas]

42 rolls

I'm up $119

[Doomsday Dallas]

58 rolls and I'm down $1,000

system = fail.

[~primetime~]

58 rolls and I'm down $1,000

system = fail.
you're supposed to stop at $200 so you didn't follow it correctly, but yeah, it looks like this is nothing to waste time over...

I would still like a couple questions answered though...

in the 1,000,000,000/1 chance that Vegas overlooked something...:roll:

[Doomsday Dallas]

you're supposed to stop at $200 so you didn't follow it correctly, but yeah, it looks like this is nothing to waste time over...

I would still like a couple questions answered though...

in the 1,000,000,000/1 chance that Vegas overlooked something...:roll:


...

[Doomsday Dallas]

It's a stupid system because History doesn't mean $hit.

It Doesn't Matter if Black hit 100 times in a row.

the odds are still the same for it to land on Red the next spin.

[~primetime~]

How am I suppose to stop at -200?

8th: bet $20
9th: $28
10th: $36
11th: $54
12th: $82
13th: $122
14th: $180
15th: $277
16th: $400

by the 16th bet I've already bet a total of $1,199
pretend you only started with $200...so that you don't have a choice...

that is another question I had for him...if you are supposed to bet more than you have left, do you just quit and take your money or do you just bet all you have left?

^^^ yeah, that is an important question I think...:oldlol:

[tgan3]

You guys play on a roulette with two "0"'s. So it definitely has some difference, since with one "0"'s the house edge is 1.7%? and with two "0"'s it becomes something like 5.4%.

Anyways, this way im using is the riskiest way. You could tweak it for it to become safer, but slower profit yield. Im sure there's a way to balance the risk and reward.

[Knuck the Ficks]

You guys play on a roulette with two "0"'s. So it definitely has some difference, since with one "0"'s the house edge is 1.7%? and with two "0"'s it becomes something like 5.4%.

Anyways, this way im using is the riskiest way. You could tweak it for it to become safer, but slower profit yield. Im sure there's a way to balance the risk and reward.
PM me your strategy. I'll give you a proper analysis of it unlike that snake primetime.

[tgan3]

pretend you only started with $200...so that you don't have a choice...

that is another question I had for him...if you are supposed to bet more than you have left, do you just quit and take your money or do you just bet all you have left?

^^^ yeah, that is an important question I think...:oldlol:

You can't just have $200, obviously you need more money, because you are going to profit easily and faster using more money. You definitely can start out with less, by adjusting the amount you bet to a lesser amount, but it will profit slower.

[~primetime~]

You can't just have $200, obviously you need more money, because you are going to profit easily and faster using more money. You definitely can start out with less, by adjusting the amount you bet to a lesser amount, but it will profit slower.
okay, what do I do when I am in a situation where I am betting say $28, and the next spin is a "0"...do I bet $28 again or do I raise it to the next level?

[Doomsday Dallas]

...

[tgan3]

okay, what do I do when I am in a situation where I am betting say $28, and the next spin is a "0"...do I bet $28 again or do I raise it to the next level?

Raise it to next level is th correct way.

What did you do?

[~primetime~]

Raise it to next level is th correct way.

What did you do?
I kept it the same...

also, what if I have both going at the same time (rows and columns), do I just keeping putting money on both?...like they are going at the same time???

and also, if I am pretending like I have a $200 limit, and I get in deep to where I have to bet more than I have in my fake wallet, do I just push whatever I have all in or do I just quit and start over?

[tgan3]

I kept it the same...

also, what if I have both going at the same time (rows and columns), do I just keeping putting money on both?...like they are going at the same time???

and also, if I am pretending like I have a $200 limit, and I get in deep to where I have to bet more than I have in my fake wallet, do I just push whatever I have all in or do I just quit and start over?

For the first question, it really depends how much money you have, if you have enough go for both columns and rows.

And why would you have a $200 limit? Like you said yourself, you easily earned $300 plus from 100 wheelspins.
Just put it this way, you need capital to earn capital.

[~primetime~]

For the first question, it really depends how much money you have, if you have enough go for both columns and rows.

And why would you have a $200 limit? Like you said yourself, you easily earned $300 plus from 100 wheelspins.
Just put it this way, you need capital to earn capital.
I am trying to simulate what would happen if I throw $200 real dollars on my bodog account for this...that is why

I guess I can chop all the numbers in half for that...

also, it was the mixing of columns and rows together that had me thinking that there could actually be some kind of legit mathmatics behind the history of the rolls, but since you are telling me that I can choose which ever I want, I am thinking that the history means nothing at all again...:confusedshrug:

that ball doesn't give a sh*t what happened on the last roll...but I thought that maybe mixing everyhting, that somehoe the history did play into it...you know?

[HylianNightmare]

damn looks like i missed out on some awesomeness

[enayes]

haha primetime your ridiculous

[KubiliusF]

bet on red and black and you always win

http://www.roulette-gambling-online.com/images/european_roulette_wheel.gif

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/son_i_am_disappoint.gif

[pst]

haha so this was a mean reversion strategy???

If you flip a coin 100 times and get 51 heads and 49 tails, the coin doesn't say "Hey I've been flipping heads too many times, I better start landing on the other side to even it out a bit".

You can't play a mean reversion strategy on something like that.

[Tarik One]

I used to play roulette and when I did, I never played the table. I played the wheel. For instance, instead of playing 31, 32, and 33, I'd play 5, 17, 32 because they are all together on the wheel itself.