Kobe Bryant's Cheap Shot on Mo Williams

[1~Gibson~1]

Does he deserve a suspension for this??? (00:35) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNM28C0XNF0)

I say he should AT LEAST be fined.

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The Cavaliers Have Asked the League to Review It (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/63645/20091226/cavs_may_ask_league_to_review_bryants_cheap_shot_o n_williams/)

According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Cavaliers are expected to ask the NBA to review a supposed cheap shot by Kobe Bryant on Maurice Williams.

[Gevz2kX]

Kobe is just a crybaby who throws cheap shots when things aren't going his way. This is the only thing stopping me from liking him

[poido123]

Just looked like a clumsy collision to me, I dont think so...

[AJ2k8]

The guy disguises the sh!t pretty damn well:ohwell:

[BigTicket]

Kobe did that on purpose, and it was a cheap shot, but I don't think it warrants a suspension.

You could argue for a fine, but we all know that's not going to happen, whether it should or not.

[RoseCity07]

Some Laker posters were trying to say that was just a typical play of a player running into a other player. How delusional do you have to be?

[poido123]

Look I hate Kobe, and I think there was some fustration in the push of Williams, but Im not going to point this small thing out...I get more pissed off with the whining, elbows and cheap flops that he does...

[1~Gibson~1]

Just looked like a clumsy collision to me, I dont think so...
yea right. im sure he saw that dark blue jersey, and if it were a clumsy collision with Kobe not knowing Mo was there BOTH of them wouldve fell.

[DuMa]

he shouldve been ejected from the game upon his first (really his 2nd) T. we're still trying to figure out how Kobe slams the ball, swipes a fist towards the officials and only gets a T for Derek Fisher.

[abuC]

Clearly intentional, he looked right at Mo then turned away slightly right before he hit him.

[itsGameTime]

Coming from a Cavs fan? How ironic. If I had a penny for every time Lebron James did what Kobe just did :oldlol:

[hitmanyr2k]

How is it everyone missed the other cheap shot? Check the 1:40 mark. He clearly gives Mo Williams an elbow shot to the neck/chest area similar to the one he gave Artest in the playoffs last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=989JJ-ZgyRo#t=1m37s

[falc39]

yup intentional

i'm not surprised considering the stuff kobe does in the past. he didn't like what happened at the other end so he takes out his frustration on the smallest player of the other team. and the league lets him get away with it.

[cotdt]

How is it everyone missed the other cheap shot? Check the 1:40 mark. He clearly gives Mo Williams an elbow shot to the neck/chest area similar to the one he gave Artest in the playoffs last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=989JJ-ZgyRo#t=1m37s

I respect Kobe even more after witnessing his competitive physicality.

[Snoop_Cat]

I respect Kobe even more after witnessing his competitive physicality.

Kobe's a ***** lmao, let's see him try to knock down LeBron

[Allstar24]

Dumb crap deleted

[sixer6ad]

Kobe's a ***** lmao, let's see him try to knock down LeBron

That would be an unfair fight in every respect.

[che guevara]

I respect Kobe even more after witnessing his competitive physicality.
Yeah, intentionally knocking running into somebody much smaller than you isn't being a *****. It's just "competitive physicality".

[falc39]

I respect Kobe even more after witnessing his competitive physicality.

yet he will whine, cry, and shout at the ref when someone does that to him. superstar treatment? i say so. if you are willing to dish it out you better be willing to take it

[Soopa]

Cavs fans are such whiners :oldlol: Makes sense, the frustration must be building up after years of not winning anything of significance.


Cavs trophy case
http://www.burleyvarsityclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/100_2107-1024x768.jpg

[cotdt]

yet he will whine, cry, and shout at the ref when someone does that to him. superstar treatment? i say so. if you are willing to dish it out you better be willing to take it

You deserve but don't expect. Disconnect.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Cavs trophy case
http://www.burleyvarsityclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/100_2107-1024x768.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[zabuza666]

ITT: Lakers fans butt****ing while they high-five each other.

[Jello]

Mo flopped. What a *****.:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:


jk.

[kkling]

Championships have everything to do with this post. That is getting old. And people saying he didn't see it? Though he looked right at Mo, and braced himself for the collision. :rolleyes:

[west]

I hate sneaky elbows like that.

[lbj23clutch]

I'd like to see Kobe do that to Shaq. :confusedshrug:

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

on a side note, mo played out of his mind last night. has he had any similiar games this season? he just could not miss.

[kkling]

on a side note, mo played out of his mind last night. has he had any similiar games this season? he just could not miss.

Past several games he's been shooting lights out.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I'd like to see Kobe do that to Shaq. :confusedshrug:
and shaq wouldn't do sht because in his mind he still has a chance to be a laker next season. and if he consistently plays like he did in the first half last night, i'd welcome him with open arms.

[Meticode]

I respect Kobe even more after witnessing his competitive physicality.
I have no problem with what I quoted, but there is a difference between what you typed and what Kobe did. And that's a cheapshot.

[Lebron23]

Kobe hated Mo Williams.

[AznTacoLover]

Well Kobe did that on purpose.. then mo overacted then somehow he got hurt..

[lbj23clutch]

Cavs fans are such whiners :oldlol: Makes sense, the frustration must be building up after years of not winning anything of significance.
Whining? If anything the Laker fans have ben doing the whining since you guys lost that game against the CAVS it's been the Laker fans who are whining about how "the refs suck", "LeBrick" this, "Bynum sucks" and so on... And at least were not throwing foam fingers and water bottles onto the court like a buncha panzies booing your own team who are the defending champs and arguebly the most accomplished franchise of alltime. Laker fans are the biggest whining classless fans of all the NBA fan bases, it's no wonder Laker fans are the most hated group of fans.

[OneMoreSucka]

Kobe mad is :oldlol:

[Kumo]

ITT: Lakers fans butt****ing while they high-five each other.

lolol

[KB2009Champ]

The obsession with kobe by the 'haters' is unbelievable on this board. Some idiots will try to blame it on 'kobe stans' but looking at the threads made by the haters, its not even close. Unreal. I am surprised some fool isn't still bumping up the Milwaukee game thread.

The Cavs win a game and all of a sudden everyone's balls have grown on this site. I didn't realize that last nights game counted for more than 1 win.

Enjoy it while it lasts. BTW, since you put so much stock in last night's game. How about the Cavs being beat by Boston - at home? Using that logic, Cavs aren't even making it out of the East now are they? See how great that logic is?

Its a nice win for your team but trying to vilify kobe EVERY chance you get just makes you a straight up loser. Ya'll probably get a bonner every time you type his name on the ISH. :roll:

[Doranku]

Somehow, I doubt those crying that Kobe didn't get a T for throwing the ball at the ground weren't saying a word when Mo Williams threw the ball at Dwight Howard and didn't get a T. :rolleyes:

I can't even imagine what's going to happen if the finals ends up being Cavs/Lakers. Most of you can't even handle a regular season game. :no:

[jazz873]

:no:

[cotdt]

I can't even imagine what's going to happen if the finals ends up being Cavs/Lakers. Most of you can't even handle a regular season game. :no:

That would be the end of ISH :ohwell:

[Killbot]

Typical Kobe. When something doesn't come your way, it's either a cheap shot or whine.
The league won't do anything about it because they're obsessed with Kobe.

[Allstar24]

Whining? If anything the Laker fans have ben doing the whining since you guys lost that game against the CAVS it's been the Laker fans who are whining about how "the refs suck", "LeBrick" this, "Bynum sucks" and so on... And at least were not throwing foam fingers and water bottles onto the court like a buncha panzies booing your own team who are the defending champs and arguebly the most accomplished franchise of alltime. Laker fans are the biggest whining classless fans of all the NBA fan bases, it's no wonder Laker fans are the most hated group of fans.
:cry: :cry: :cry:

You are further proving my point...I don't see any whining by Laker fans. Show me the thread where Laker fans are complaining about the officiating. Everyone forgot about that sh*tty loss already...everyone except the Cavs fans who are bragging like they won the championship or something :oldlol:

[lefthook00]

That was a cheap shot but Mo Williams is a lil hoe. How can something like that hurt him? It wasn't even a Derek Fisher type shot, he just bumped into him. This isn't soccer.

[gasolina]

Cheap shot it is.

I wanna see Lebron go to the commish and complain on this. Let's see how Stern reacts when two of his babies cry for attention.

[lbj23clutch]

:cry: :cry: :cry:

You are further proving my point...I don't see any whining by Laker fans. Show me the thread where Laker fans are complaining about the officiating. Everyone forgot about that sh*tty loss already...everyone except the Cavs fans who are bragging like they won the championship or something :oldlol:
Half the posts in the game thread were Laker fans crying about the refs idiot. And the only one bragging about the win was PB, which is expected coming from a troll.

[oh the horror]

Somehow, I doubt those crying that Kobe didn't get a T for throwing the ball at the ground weren't saying a word when Mo Williams threw the ball at Dwight Howard and didn't get a T. :rolleyes:

I can't even imagine what's going to happen if the finals ends up being Cavs/Lakers. Most of you can't even handle a regular season game. :no:



I picture some posters here as the type to scream, cry at their televisions, while punching a nearby wall in their house. Its just highly emotional around here.

[RaceBannana]

It was intentional, but Mo Williams overworked it, probably to get Kobe a T or a Suspension. Kobe is strong, but I doubt he is enough strong to throw Williams that badly.

[Soopa]

The obsession with kobe by the 'haters' is unbelievable on this board. Some idiots will try to blame it on 'kobe stans' but looking at the threads made by the haters, its not even close. Unreal. I am surprised some fool isn't still bumping up the Milwaukee game thread.

The Cavs win a game and all of a sudden everyone's balls have grown on this site. I didn't realize that last nights game counted for more than 1 win.

Enjoy it while it lasts. BTW, since you put so much stock in last night's game. How about the Cavs being beat by Boston - at home? Using that logic, Cavs aren't even making it out of the East now are they? See how great that logic is?

Its a nice win for your team but trying to vilify kobe EVERY chance you get just makes you a straight up loser. Ya'll probably get a bonner every time you type his name on the ISH. :roll:

truth.com


These Kobe haters are pathetic man.

They act like little b!tchez, on some "i don't like him, cuz he's not my friend" type bytch shyt.

grow the fukk up


I'm surprised they didn't commit suicide after last year's Finals after he got rid of the ''wouldn't have won without Shaq'' excuse forever.

Its okay though when the Lakers have another 3-peat in 2012 Kobe will get that seventh ring and surpass there childhood hero and most of them just won't know what to do but off themselves.

It doesn't matter though Kobe and the Lakers could go on to win 9 or 10 rings and the haters and Jordan religious faithfuls will still bring up the same shyt like they do now. ''bbb-but Kobe had Gasol/Bynum!'' or ''bbb-but Kobe can't win without dominate big man!'' and ''bbb-but Kobe could have been replaced by any other guard back then and the Lakers would have still won 3 rings'' :oldlol:

[1~Gibson~1]

How is it everyone missed the other cheap shot? Check the 1:40 mark. He clearly gives Mo Williams an elbow shot to the neck/chest area similar to the one he gave Artest in the playoffs last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=989JJ-ZgyRo#t=1m37snow that i look at it, he DID try to throw that elbow. Kobe is officially a dirty player in my book......not that my book matters :lol


Coming from a Cavs fan? How ironic. If I had a penny for every time Lebron James did what Kobe just did :oldlol:
it was a serious question. i was watching it with my family (most of them were just watching for fun and favored neither team) and even they saw that it was intentional


Cavs fans are such whiners :oldlol: Makes sense, the frustration must be building up after years of not winning anything of significance.
no, that was a serious question actually. you're just being insecure.




Championships have everything to do with this post. That is getting old. And people saying he didn't see it? Though he looked right at Mo, and braced himself for the collision. :rolleyes:
exactly


Well Kobe did that on purpose.. then mo overacted then somehow he got hurt..how is falling on the ground in pain overreactin? :oldlol:


Somehow, I doubt those crying that Kobe didn't get a T for throwing the ball at the ground weren't saying a word when Mo Williams threw the ball at Dwight Howard and didn't get a T. :rolleyes:

I can't even imagine what's going to happen if the finals ends up being Cavs/Lakers. Most of you can't even handle a regular season game. :no:not really. at least i didnt. i thought mo shouldve gotten a T. but that doesnt mean Kobe should have NOT gotten one. slamming the ball like that is an automatic technical

for all of you kobe-******gers im sorry if your butt-hurt. i just wanted an honest opinion. and for all of you who are bringing up the ring discussion, you must be a very insecure person. it's sad that you cant have an un-biased opinion in JUST ONE conversation......no, no, no. Im hugging Kobe's nutts EVERYTIME!

:oldlol:

[1~Gibson~1]

It was intentional, but Mo Williams overworked it, probably to get Kobe a T or a Suspension. Kobe is strong, but I doubt he is enough strong to throw Williams that badly.
he hurt his lower back actually. when you dont see someone coming an he blindsides you like that, with Kobe being as big as he is, and Mo being as small as he is, that was bound to happen.

[InfiniteBaskets]

That's no more intentional than Derek Fisher's shot at Mo Williams. Meaning both were intentional, but if you're going to warrant suspension for Kobe, then DFish's play definitely warrants suspension. But because Mo is more hurt from Kobe's intentional collision, the punishment should be harsher?

There's been plenty of plays were players knock into each other. Sometimes you see a PF or something run down the court on offense and just run into the defender, knocking him over. You can say it's on purpose, but I've never seen a suspension for that.

[Brandon Roy]

:oldlol: at these dudes getting emotional about grown sweaty men that they've never met.

[1~Gibson~1]

That's no more intentional than Derek Fisher's shot at Mo Williams. Meaning both were intentional, but if you're going to warrant suspension for Kobe, then DFish's play definitely warrants suspension. But because Mo is more hurt from Kobe's intentional collision, the punishment should be harsher?

There's been plenty of plays were players knock into each other. Sometimes you see a PF or something run down the court on offense and just run into the defender, knocking him over. You can say it's on purpose, but I've never seen a suspension for that.but there HAVE been fines.


:oldlol: at these dudes getting emotional about grown sweaty men that they've never met.
you get two lols

:oldlol: for pretending to be one of these "grown sweaty men that we've never met"

and a :oldlol: for trying to make it sound like something it's not

[Skywalker]

:oldlol: at these dudes getting emotional about grown sweaty men that they've never met.

what does sweaty men have to do with ANYTHING? god damn terrible post

[RedBlackAttack]

Cavs fans are such whiners :oldlol: Makes sense, the frustration must be building up after years of not winning anything of significance.
You are calling the Cavs and their fans 'whiners' after that display yesterday? High comedy.

The Lakers' team did nothing but whine and complain all game because the officials weren't blowing the whistle on every missed shot, flop, rebound attempt, etc. to the point of ridiculousness, followed by the 'fans' booing their own team and then showering the floor with foam signs and water bottles because their team was getting totally outplayed.

But, yeah... Cleveland is full of whiners. :oldlol:

[Ken_Masters]

Watching it live it seemed as though Kobe accidentally ran into him, but after seeing the replay it seemed like Kobe definitely planned that one. No call on one end, and a cheap/dirty play from Kobe on the other in retaliation.

[1~Gibson~1]

The Cavaliers Have Asked the League to Review It (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/63645/20091226/cavs_may_ask_league_to_review_bryants_cheap_shot_o n_williams/)

According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Cavaliers are expected to ask the NBA to review a supposed cheap shot by Kobe Bryant on Maurice Williams.

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Allstar24]

The Cavaliers Have Asked the League to Review It (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/63645/20091226/cavs_may_ask_league_to_review_bryants_cheap_shot_o n_williams/)

According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Cavaliers are expected to ask the NBA to review a supposed cheap shot by Kobe Bryant on Maurice Williams.

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:


But, yeah... Cleveland is full of whiners. :oldlol:
You got that right...

[1~Gibson~1]

You got that right...
and exactly how did i whine?

[Brandon Roy]

:oldlol: so sensitive

[Pharcyde]

Laker fans suck so bad.

[Allstar24]

and exactly how did i whine?
I'm talking about the Cleveland team...they're being crybabies.

[sixer6ad]

You got that right...

All-Star...one intelligent post...please.

[sixer6ad]

Laker fans suck so bad.

When you lose, you lose. When you get your heads handed to you and you react the way the entire Lakers' team did, you get onto chat forums and talk about it for days. They're talking about yesterday's game RIGHT NOW and they have a game going on in Sacramento!

[1~Gibson~1]

I'm talking about the Cleveland team...they're being crybabies.
we're "crying" because we've asked them to review a play where it looks like Kobe tried to intentionally push our player down, and injuring him in doing so???

:oldlol: butt-hurt, are we?

[IBrickShots]

Lmfaooo look at Artest laugh at Mo when he was crying on the floor.

[Alhazred]

Its okay though when the Lakers have another 3-peat in 2012 Kobe will get that seventh ring and surpass there childhood hero and most of them just won't know what to do but off themselves.

It doesn't matter though Kobe and the Lakers could go on to win 9 or 10 rings and the haters and Jordan religious faithfuls will still bring up the same shyt like they do now. ''bbb-but Kobe had Gasol/Bynum!'' or ''bbb-but Kobe can't win without dominate big man!'' and ''bbb-but Kobe could have been replaced by any other guard back then and the Lakers would have still won 3 rings'' :oldlol:

You know not all Jordan fans hate Kobe and want to tear him down, right? I've been watching him play since his second year in the league and I'm a big fan of the Lakers, too despite originally being brought up as a Bulls fan(Dad's from Chicago). I even hope LA three peats and Kobe gets a seventh ring like you said. So lay off the Jordan bashing, considering no one here has brought him up other than you and I just now.

[1~Gibson~1]

Lmfaooo look at Artest laugh at Mo when he was crying on the floor.
what's even funnier is when Mo called Odumb a ***** :oldlol:

[Allstar24]

All-Star...one intelligent post...please.
Where is that "intelligent" thread you made...you know, the one about Kobe not shaking hands or something...you got flamed by every single person in that thread, even Cavs fans. I'm surprised you think you can question someone else's intelligence :oldlol:

[sixer6ad]

Where is that "intelligent" thread you made...you know, the one about Kobe not shaking hands or something...you got flamed by every single person in that thread, even Cavs fans. I'm surprised you think you can question someone else's intelligence :oldlol:

Man...the left coast is just smoking pissed from yesterday's game.

[FiveStar]

Cavs fans acting like they won the championship. Funny how they asked the NBA to review the play. Bunch of whiny b!tches :oldlol:

[Allstar24]

Man...the left coast is just smoking pissed from yesterday's game.
Couldn't come up with something clever huh? :oldlol: Like I said, the frustration of never winning anything of significance must be killing you inside for you all to react like this after a regular season win. Haha.

[1~Gibson~1]

Cavs fans acting like they won the championship. Funny how they asked the NBA to review the play. Bunch of whiny b!tches :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

you made a whole ****ing new account just to say that???

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lakers fans are ******* to the max

[1~Gibson~1]

Couldn't come up with something clever huh? :oldlol: Like I said, the frustration of never winning anything of significance must be killing you inside for you all to react like this after a regular season win. Haha.
uh oh, he's pulling the "we got 4 rings, you got none" card to make himself feel better after the 102-87 beat down :roll:

Encore! Encore! (but no foam fingers please :oldlol:)

[FiveStar]

LMAO @ Gibson.

Dude...do you know how hyped you are for a regular season game? Calm down. Damn..if they win a ship, are you gonna off yourself from sheer excitement?

[Shep]

hahaha ****in kobe. shoots 8/50, "ayyyyy" every time the **** drives to the hoop. i'm so happy the refs don't fall for that ****, he's even got bynum doing that **** man. the funniest bit was when he was crying to the refs, and instead of *****ing he could've grabbed the ball, instead the cavs got the ball :roll: **** kobe, **** the lakers

[D.J.]

This is without a doubt, an intentional act. However, it is Kobe Bryant. This is not 2005-2006 where he was on the bad side of referees to an extent. At that time, he did have incidents where he was punished(ex: Mike Miller, Bruce Bowen). Today, he's back on their good side. Worse case scenario is he gets fined.

[sixer6ad]

Couldn't come up with something clever huh? :oldlol: Like I said, the frustration of never winning anything of significance must be killing you inside for you all to react like this after a regular season win. Haha.

Look at the posts and tell me who's frustrated. You guys are ready to book a flight to Cleveland and fight.

Nobody talks more **** than you guys. PB just gives all of us a bad name. Had it been 102-87 LA yesterday, ISH is lined up with so many "told you so" re-hashes from yesteryear there would have been a power outage. Instead, we dominated, and you and your team couldn't handle it. Your players, your coach, and your fans all blew up on live television and embarassed yourselves. Last May...after Orlando...I got a way. We got our asses kicked, so I got away. You guys are so "4-ring" arrogant, that you have to come on here and find a way to grab the attention. You got b***h slapped, but the focus still has to be on you. You guys need to lose, so you can swallow a little Midwest humble pie. Better yet, come and spent a winter here and toughen up a little.

[brantonli]

Uh, aren't people underestimating the fact that a 6-6, 200 pounds NBA player barrels into you from behind, it's going to hurt? We aren't talking about two players who are of the same size colliding, here one player is half a foot taller than the other.

[RedBlackAttack]

Man these Cavs fans are trolling hard. Even PB would be embarrassed :oldlol:
I don't venture into the Main Forum all that often these days (posters like you being the main reason). I see that you haven't changed your ridiculous, dimwitted posting style since last I checked in.

It is comforting in a way. Regardless of what is happening in the NBA or the world in general, you can count on this guy espousing unabashed homerism and retarded-ness.

He is the cockroach of our forum, so to speak. A nuclear holocaust couldn't stop his lunacy.

[FiveStar]

:oldlol:

you just wont stop will you?

even after you get your ass beat on your own floor and the home crowd boo the home team by throwing things at them :oldlol:

All i wanted to know were your opinions on the no-call. What are your opinions?

Kobe did it on purpose

Cavs killed us

Mo was huge

I'll admit that. Now your turn to be honest, did you honestly think to yourself that Kobe was reffed as an equal? I'll admit that it was probably his fault since he snapped at the refs.

You need to chill though cause you're setting yourself up BIGTIME with your posts.

[insidehoops]

Attention regular intelligent fans in here:

Ignore the dishonest fans who care more about demonizing Kobe/LeBron (or promoting him) than having decent discussion. Don't even respond to their babbling.

Just give your honest, intelligent opinion. And talk to others who offer the same.

[cotdt]

I have no problem with what I quoted, but there is a difference between what you typed and what Kobe did. And that's a cheapshot.

It inspires his team to play physical, just like Fisher's elbow to Scola in the Lakers-Rockets series inspired his team to play tougher. Don't let those Cavs push you around, fight back!

[1~Gibson~1]

It was a cheapshot. He should be fined for it AT LEAST.

[qrich]

Definitely intentional, cheap and a ***** move. Funny how what Melo & ZBo did were considered to be ***** (at least they were face to face) moves, yet, this is just normal. :oldlol:

Suspension shouldn't be warranted, but it is ridiculous that Kobe only picked up one T, despite all the bitching he did. Just ridiculous.


Couldn't come up with something clever huh? :oldlol: Like I said, the frustration of never winning anything of significance must be killing you inside for you all to react like this after a regular season win. Haha.

How insecure can someone get?


Attention regular intelligent fans in here:

Ignore the dishonest fans who care more about demonizing Kobe/LeBron (or promoting him) than having decent discussion. Don't even respond to their babbling.

Just give your honest, intelligent opinion. And talk to others who offer the same.

How about we ban these dishonest trolls and end all of this ffs

[cotdt]

Definitely intentional, cheap and a ***** move. Funny how what Melo & ZBo did were considered to be ***** (at least they were face to face) moves, yet, this is just normal. :oldlol:


I agree it should not have been done discretely, the team should have gotten Fisher to do it instead, in the open. Hard running elbow to Mo's jaw to take him out of the game. Fisher gets Flagrant but team gets a better chance to win, plus it inspires his teammates to play harder after Fisher's personal sacrifice.

[RedBlackAttack]

I definitely don't think that the play is worthy of suspension. It wasn't exactly a vicious takedown or tackle. I do think that a fine may be in order, though, because it was clearly premeditated and a direct result of a no-call on the other end. The fact that Mo had been lighting it up also may have played a role.

I would be totally against a suspension, though.

[RedBlackAttack]

How about we ban these dishonest trolls and end all of this ffs
Bans rarely work, as evidenced by the legions of trolls who have gone through usernames the way that Tiger goes through hoes. It may be a good idea to do a little 'winter cleaning' just to send a message and because of the principle of the matter, but that hasn't proven to be an effective method of cleaning up the garbage in the past.


I agree it should not have been done discretely, the team should have gotten Fisher to do it instead, in the open. Hard running elbow to Mo's jaw to take him out of the game. Fisher gets Flagrant but team gets a better chance to win, plus it inspires his teammates to play harder after Fisher's personal sacrifice.
Why should Mo have been hit by an elbow in the jaw and what did he do to deserve a cheapshot that would have taken him out of the game? Did I miss something?

[Derka]

That's worthy of a tech for sure.

A fine, maybe.

A suspension, absolutely not.

[phoenix18]

I was watching the game with about 30 people, including people who didnt know much about b-ball at all. ALL of us were waiting for Kobe to get ejected.

How many times can you yell at the referee?

[04mzwach]

It's a foul...nothing else.

[kkling]

Well Kobe did that on purpose.. then mo overacted then somehow he got hurt..

That was a cheap shot but Mo Williams is a lil hoe. How can something like that hurt him? It wasn't even a Derek Fisher type shot, he just bumped into him. This isn't soccer.

If either of you watched the game, you would know that he had the wind knocked out of him.

[Derka]

If either of you watched the game, you would know that he had the wind knocked out of him.

The lamest aspect of the foul...he did it purposely as a means of lamenting that he was falling the floor and not getting a foul called for doing so. "If they're not gonna call it for me, I'm gonna play like a brat."

[qrich]

Bans rarely work, as evidenced by the legions of trolls who have gone through usernames the way that Tiger goes through hoes. It may be a good idea to do a little 'winter cleaning' just to send a message and because of the principle of the matter, but that hasn't proven to be an effective method of cleaning up the garbage in the past.


Bans work real well on other forums, and the reason they don't work here is because only two people have the option to do so.


I was watching the game with about 30 people, including people who didnt know much about b-ball at all. ALL of us were waiting for Kobe to get ejected.

How many times can you yell at the referee?

No kidding. I still do not understand how Fisher got a T when Kobe slammed the ball. Pathetic.


lol at kobe stans defending that bs...

cavs lakers finals is a must for ish :oldlol: :oldlol:

Oh man would that be hilarious to see.

[Lakers13]

And...:roll: :roll: :roll:

@ This thread, and these pusse's crying.."Dirty play, dirty play".

Barkley, Bird, Dr.J, are rolling in their graves.


Everyone who played in the 80's and 90's are rolling in thier graves :oldlol:

[Big#50]

truth.com


These Kobe haters are pathetic man.

They act like little b!tchez, on some "i don't like him, cuz he's not my friend" type bytch shyt.

grow the fukk up


I'm surprised they didn't commit suicide after last year's Finals after he got rid of the ''wouldn't have won without Shaq'' excuse forever.

Its okay though when the Lakers have another 3-peat in 2012 Kobe will get that seventh ring and surpass there childhood hero and most of them just won't know what to do but off themselves.

It doesn't matter though Kobe and the Lakers could go on to win 9 or 10 rings and the haters and Jordan religious faithfuls will still bring up the same shyt like they do now. ''bbb-but Kobe had Gasol/Bynum!'' or ''bbb-but Kobe can't win without dominate big man!'' and ''bbb-but Kobe could have been replaced by any other guard back then and the Lakers would have still won 3 rings'' :oldlol:
You need help.

[1~Gibson~1]

You need help.
alot of it

[branslowski]

http://www.sportsgalleryweb.com/images/basketball/photos/larry_bird_julius_erving_choke_large.jpg
"Yo Larry"
"What Doc?"
"These fans are pusses"

[shortlunatic]

lol this thread is filled with trolls from both sides haha

[Alhazred]

http://www.sportsgalleryweb.com/images/basketball/photos/larry_bird_julius_erving_choke_large.jpg
"Yo Larry"
"What Doc?"
"These fans are pusses"

FTW

[drinkingforfun]

http://www.sportsgalleryweb.com/images/basketball/photos/larry_bird_julius_erving_choke_large.jpg
"Yo Larry"
"What Doc?"
"These fans are pusses"

Whats a pusses?

[Micku]

The Kobe's hit on Mo Williams wasn't tough at all. It may have been intentional, but I don't really see it more than a foul. It wasn't really bad. I'm surprised Williams went down after that hit. It didn't seem hard.

[phoenix18]

The Kobe's hit on Mo Williams wasn't tough at all. It may have been intentional, but I don't really see it more than a foul. It wasn't really bad. I'm surprised Williams went down after that hit. It didn't seem hard.

Who knows? He could have been trying to sell it, or he could have been caught off guard.

[zabuza666]

http://www.sportsgalleryweb.com/images/basketball/photos/larry_bird_julius_erving_choke_large.jpg
"Yo Larry"
"What Doc?"
"These fans are pusses"

If it was back then, Kobe would have been ironed out for his cheap shot

[jaydacris]

pff that hit was nothing. kobe gets more wild with his wife in bed than that

[emsteez forreal]

ron artest doesn't even go out-of-bounds to inbound the ball at the beginning, wtf?

[jaydacris]

ron artest doesn't even go out-of-bounds to inbound the ball at the beginning, wtf?

uhh mo missed the ft, and ron rebounded it lol

[bdreason]

It was probably intentional... but Mo fell down like a little girl.

[bdreason]

And I could see a foul being called... but a tech or flagrant? c'mon now.

[OldSchoolBBall]

I was watching the game with about 30 people, including people who didnt know much about b-ball at all. ALL of us were waiting for Kobe to get ejected.

How many times can you yell at the referee?

I've literally NEVER seen someone yell at the refs so much and act in such an animated fashion (waving his arms and gesturing etc.) and not get a T until very late in the game. Dude was doing it all game and should have had like 7 techs the way he was acting. And yes, the push was definitely intentional. Not suspension-worthy, but fine-worthy and should have been a tech then and there. Kobe has a history of lashing out when things don't go his way (see: Mike Miller).

[lilo]

I respect Kobe even more after witnessing his competitive physicality.

Are you saying he is competitive with Mo Williams? Maybe. How about trying someone heavier (like LeBron)?

[cotdt]

Are you saying he is competitive with Mo Williams? Maybe. How about trying someone heavier (like LeBron)?

It will be harder to do against Lebron, but still neccessary. What I'm saying is, sometimes you just gotta push and shove your way to the basket. That soft stuff isn't going to beat teams that play you physical. You gotta be more physical than them. Use elbows, bump them, whatever it takes to get your space. That's how you win when the refs start allowing physical play.

[Go Getter]

Looked to me like Mo should have protected himself it was just a bump.

Not Kobe's fault dude is a *****.

*And I'm not a Kobe stan I'm a Bulls fan.

Pau gasol threw J. Thompson to the floor with no call tonite and no one is whining.

I remember Rondo threw Kirk Hinrich into the stands and there was no flagrant call either....

[Twiens]

Probably intentional but still a ***** dive by Mo..

[wally_world]

Just looked like a clumsy collision to me, I dont think so...

yea right, if Kobe was blind this would make sense

[west]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJAx7dCnlnY

[Pursuer]

Guys, Doug Collins has been talking about "Kobe Bryant dishing punishment" for the last two-three years now, nothing new here. There's a lot of elbows and other physical plays on both sides that we don't see, don't make a big deal out of one play, Mo Williams didn't die, just played Paul Pierce.

[RoseCity07]

Saw a guy write this at real gm:


Either Kobe Bryant did it intentional in retaliation for a percieved non call on the other end of the court, or he has some of the worst court vision in the NBA.

I think we can rule one of them out.


This is how I feel about it too.

[Mikaiel]

It will be harder to do against Lebron, but still neccessary. What I'm saying is, sometimes you just gotta push and shove your way to the basket. That soft stuff isn't going to beat teams that play you physical. You gotta be more physical than them. Use elbows, bump them, whatever it takes to get your space. That's how you win when the refs start allowing physical play.

There's a big difference between being physical and being dirty ...


I agree it should not have been done discretely, the team should have gotten Fisher to do it instead, in the open. Hard running elbow to Mo's jaw to take him out of the game. Fisher gets Flagrant but team gets a better chance to win, plus it inspires his teammates to play harder after Fisher's personal sacrifice.

Great idea. Or they could have gotten Josh Powell to break one of Mo's legs or something. Or maybe they could have hired a hitman to kill LeBron before the game.

[Doranku]

It's just that competitive fire in him coupled with his hot temper. He was obviously frustrated at the lack of calls he was getting, and he recognized that Mo Williams was KILLING them. I think the frustration got the best of him, and he saw the opportunity to send a message to Mo.

Is this right? Absolutely not. Could Mo have been hurt? Absolutely. Was he? I don't think so, I think he pulled some theatrics to get the officials attention. But it was a dick move on Kobe's part.

Is Kobe a 'dirty' player trying to be a hitman? No he isn't. His temper and competitive nature get the best of him at times, and he reacts without thinking. That's just how he is. But I don't think he's the type of guy to go out there with a premeditated agenda to harm another player.

[kkling]

It was probably intentional... but Mo fell down like a little girl.

Looked to me like Mo should have protected himself it was just a bump.

Not Kobe's fault dude is a *****.

*And I'm not a Kobe stan I'm a Bulls fan.

Pau gasol threw J. Thompson to the floor with no call tonite and no one is whining.

I remember Rondo threw Kirk Hinrich into the stands and there was no flagrant call either....

Probably intentional but still a ***** dive by Mo..

I want to see any of you standing after being hit from behind unexpectedly by someone running into you with their arm down. Mo is 6'1, Kobe is 6'6. Kobe ran through Mo, he knew the collision was going to happen, if he didn't, Kobe would not have braced himself for it. Using the argument that Kobe has tunnel vision and didn't see him is ridiculous. If Kobe had tunnel vision he would be a ****ty basketball player.

[El Seano]

He got ****ing beaten everytime he went into the lane and Cavs fans wanna ***** about a push?

Jesus, just take the ****ing win and shut up.

[Allstar24]

Jesus, just take the ****ing win and shut up.
That's what I was saying...f*cking bunch of whiners. Can't believe this topic is still going...

[mlh1981]

Excessive and fine worthy, IMO.

Kobe's antics during the game should have netted him a T. Not an ejection, not a suspension. Just a "T"

Lakers really lacked poise and professionalism in this game. Glad to see the Cavs rose above it and just stuck to what was working for them. I'm happy about the win, but we gotta build off of it, or else it doesn't mean much. Consistency has been a problem this season for Cleveland.

[DukeDelonte13]

That's what I was saying...f*cking bunch of whiners. Can't believe this topic is still going...


how many laker *****es were pissing and moaning when Lebron danced for a few seconds during the bulls game.....

Then you see Kobe act like a spoiled baby all game and cheap shot Mo...

Talk about a lack of respect for other players

[Allstar24]

how many laker *****es were pissing and moaning when Lebron danced for a few seconds during the bulls game.....

Then you see Kobe act like a spoiled baby all game and cheap shot Mo...

Talk about a lack of respect for other players
I couldn't care less about LeBron's dancing so your statement doesn't apply to me. I have plenty of respect for LeBron and the Cavs, it's the fans that are f*cking annoying.

Hey, were you guys whining for Mo Williams to get suspended after his "cheap shot" on Howard last season? I guess not...

[plowking]

If they're going to fine/suspend Kobe for one game, they should do the same to Lebron. Apparently Lebron is allowed to push Kobe over, and get a blocking foul for it.

Lakers got absolutely robbed on so many calls in that game, and it really affected the scoreline greatly.

[DukeDelonte13]

I couldn't care less about LeBron's dancing so your statement doesn't apply to me. I have plenty of respect for LeBron and the Cavs, it's the fans that are f*cking annoying.

Hey, were you guys whining for Mo Williams to get suspended after his "cheap shot" on Howard last season? I guess not...


Mo cheap shotted Howard last season?

[DukeDelonte13]

If they're going to fine/suspend Kobe for one game, they should do the same to Lebron. Apparently Lebron is allowed to push Kobe over, and get a blocking foul for it.

Lakers got absolutely robbed on so many calls in that game, and it really affected the scoreline greatly.


You are an idiot to bring up the ref's calls for that game as help to the cavs, they were plenty of non-calls on both sides.

[plowking]

You are an idiot to bring up the ref's calls for that game as help to the cavs, they were plenty of non-calls on both sides.

Nope, I couldn't give a damn who wins being a Heat fan, though that game was ridiculously one sided. Cavs players were dropping their shoulders and charging into Laker players all game. Mo did it to Fisher so many times, and I was glad when Fisher finally pushed him back. Then Bron to Kobe.

Listen to what the others have said, take your win and shut up. Cleveland are absolute snitches for having the league review the tape on that play. There's simply a code in sports where you don't sell out a fellow player like that.

[1~Gibson~1]

Looked to me like Mo should have protected himself it was just a bump.

Not Kobe's fault dude is a *****.

*And I'm not a Kobe stan I'm a Bulls fan.

Pau gasol threw J. Thompson to the floor with no call tonite and no one is whining.

I remember Rondo threw Kirk Hinrich into the stands and there was no flagrant call either....

The Kobe's hit on Mo Williams wasn't tough at all. It may have been intentional, but I don't really see it more than a foul. It wasn't really bad. I'm surprised Williams went down after that hit. It didn't seem hard.

Probably intentional but still a ***** dive by Mo..

all 3 of you are dumbasses and obviously you've never been blindsided. he didnt dive you dumbasses, he fell. he was UNEXPECTEDLY hit. Kobe knew what he was doing, therefore, he didnt fall. Mo didnt know what Kobe was doing, he fell. Kobe is way bigger than Mo. Mo fell, and was injured on that play (lower back).

[plowking]

At what point does Kobe brace himself in the video? Honestly, I can't see it... It really looks like incidental contact to me.

[BigTicket]

At what point does Kobe brace himself in the video? Honestly, I can't see it... It really looks like incidental contact to me.

So you're arguing that he went temporarily blind ?

[DukeDelonte13]

Nope, I couldn't give a damn who wins being a Heat fan, though that game was ridiculously one sided. Cavs players were dropping their shoulders and charging into Laker players all game. Mo did it to Fisher so many times, and I was glad when Fisher finally pushed him back. Then Bron to Kobe.

Listen to what the others have said, take your win and shut up. Cleveland are absolute snitches for having the league review the tape on that play. There's simply a code in sports where you don't sell out a fellow player like that.

just shut up.... That has nothing to do with "selling a player out". It's another example of how sh*tty the refs were calling the game. The game that you somehow think was all called for the lakers... Despite it being in LA... :oldlol:

A cheap shot is a cheap shot. You seem to think its acceptable, and wrong for a player to get punished for it.

[plowking]

So you're arguing that he went temporarily blind ?

Seems to me as Mo passed the ball, he turned and looked, and you can see him slightly turn to even move toward the ball. I don't see him brace himself, as you would when you try and hit someone intentionally to protect yourself...

[plowking]

just shut up.... That has nothing to do with "selling a player out". It's another example of how sh*tty the refs were calling the game. The game that you somehow think was all called for the lakers... Despite it being in LA... :oldlol:

A cheap shot is a cheap shot. You seem to think its acceptable, and wrong for a player to get punished for it.

I didn't see you complaining when Mo threw the ball at Howard...

[BigTicket]

Seems to me as Mo passed the ball, he turned and looked, and you can see him slightly turn to even move toward the ball. I don't see him brace himself, as you would when you try and hit someone intentionally to protect yourself...

Oh please, he ran the entire length of the court with Mo Williams in his sight.

And if it had been an accident why didn't he help Mo Williams up after he ran him over ? Mo was still on the floor by the time Bryant ran back past him after the Lakers scored, he could have easily helped the guy up and appologized, but he didn't.

[plowking]

Oh please, he ran the entire length of the court with Mo Williams in his sight.

And if it had been an accident why didn't he help Mo Williams up after he ran him over ? Mo was still on the floor by the time Bryant ran back past him after the Lakers scored, he could have easily helped the guy up and appologized, but he didn't.

Mo was up, crouching down. He seemed hurt, you really want Bryant over there picking him up onto his feet and possibly making something worse?

[BigTicket]

Mo was up, crouching down. He seemed hurt, you really want Bryant over there picking him up onto his feet and possibly making something worse?

Yeah, I want Bryant to come help him up, and see if he's ok. That's what Kobe should have done if it had been an accident, and he had some class.

It wasn't an accident though, it was a cheap shot by a frustrated player.

[1~Gibson~1]

Seems to me as Mo passed the ball, he turned and looked, and you can see him slightly turn to even move toward the ball. I don't see him brace himself, as you would when you try and hit someone intentionally to protect yourself...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdu3m4VOvaI

from 6:50 to 7:45 shows alot of kobe *****ing......you should watch it. surely enough you can take 1 minute to watch it.

IN SLOW MOTION, it showed Bryant slightly look Mo's way, brace himself for the contact, and act like it never happened.

[DukeDelonte13]

I didn't see you complaining when Mo threw the ball at Howard...


are you really serious?

[plowking]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdu3m4VOvaI

from 6:50 to 7:45 shows alot of kobe *****ing......you should watch it. surely enough you can take 1 minute to watch it.

IN SLOW MOTION, it showed Bryant slightly look Mo's way, brace himself for the contact, and act like it never happened.

It seems like a video made by an upset Cavs fan who seems more determined in spreading the message that Lebron is better than Kobe. I really can't be bothered watching any Kobe vs Bron videos anymore.

[1~Gibson~1]

It seems like a video made by an upset Cavs fan who seems more determined in spreading the message that Lebron is better than Kobe. I really can't be bothered watching any Kobe vs Bron videos anymore.
responding to your post in the other thread:

i mentioned it because it was a neat little stat i heard from someone and thought it was funny :lol

if the roles were reversed, there would be SO many "LeBrick" threads right now that it wouldnt even be funny, but seeing that he's Kobe Bryant and all everyone is just gonna not even mention it and go about their business :oldlol:

and i agree that the video was made by an agry Cavs fan, and although he was being a homer on some clips, he was right for the most part. on some of those calls Kobe was looking for a foul without even being touched.......and that's not the only thing he was right about either.

[plowking]

responding to your post in the other thread:

i mentioned it because it was a neat little stat i heard from someone and thought it was funny :lol

if the roles were reversed, there would be SO many "LeBrick" threads right now that it wouldnt even be funny, but seeing that he's Kobe Bryant and all everyone is just gonna not even mention it and go about their business :oldlol:

Are you f*cking kidding me? Really?

Lebron is more media exposed in a positive light in America than Kobe, and you seem to think they only cover up for Kobe.

Kings end up coming back from 35 points; the biggest comeback in 13 years. Guess who's on the front cover of ESPN NBA? Lebron and the Cavs.

Stop bullsh!ting yourself, Lebron and Kobe get the same damn treatment. Both of them could get 30 points on 10-40 shooting and they'd get positive press. No other players in the league get that. There really is no point in talking to the majority of Laker fans and nearly all Cleveland fans. Most of you simply support Cleveland for Lebron, and same with Laker fans and Kobe, and the main goal is to hype up one as better than the other.

That's the one thing I miss about the 90's. You got people who liked basketball, and not knobs like you trying ride a players nuts to glory.

[The GM]

The ref's lack of no calls on Kobe getting fouled everytime to the cup should get an ejection, along with the slobbage of Lebron James, David Stern should be ashamed of himself.

[branslowski]

:violin:

We only see cheapshots when the Bean is involved....




Never knew there were somany *** posters....

[branslowski]

it's not like im lying. so far, other than me and some fans on the internet no one has mentioned that he took more shots than LeBron attemtped :confusedshrug:

Kobe missed more shots than LeBron took

35pts 9reb 8ast...too, garbage stats....


Do I get a prize?.....:banana:

[Soopa]

*yawns* ya'll still complaining and bragging about a regular season game in December?


holla @ me in June when the Lakers win #16 and Kobe wins #5 .....everything should be back to normal by then

[kkling]

At what point does Kobe brace himself in the video? Honestly, I can't see it... It really looks like incidental contact to me.

You could clearly see it at a different angle that they played during the game.

[icemanfan]

I respect Kobe even more after witnessing his competitive physicality.
but if its another teams player on a Laker they are banned from the
NBA for life. Yep that's equitable.

[qrich]

If they're going to fine/suspend Kobe for one game, they should do the same to Lebron. Apparently Lebron is allowed to push Kobe over, and get a blocking foul for it.

Lakers got absolutely robbed on so many calls in that game, and it really affected the scoreline greatly.

If it's the play I think your talking about, there was a reach by Kobe right before LeBron pushed Kobe over, and I don't see anyone really asking for a suspension, but this was a cheap shot regardless, and with Kobe having done cheap shots in the past along with the fact he was frustrated, I have no doubt in my mind that this was intentional, and a fine should be warranted. Refs were horrible, yes, but they were consistently horrible and the Cavs were the more aggressive team. All there is to it.



Kobe's antics during the game should have netted him a T. Not an ejection, not a suspension. Just a "T"


If we are talking about the game as a whole, then I have to disagree with you since there were multiple occasions which Kobe should have gotten T'd up. Namely when they gave Fisher a T after Kobe slammed the ball off the ground and it went above him, which has always been called as an automatic T.

[Meticode]

At what point does Kobe brace himself in the video? Honestly, I can't see it... It really looks like incidental contact to me.

Right before he runs into Williams (which is easy to see that Bryant saw him regardless if he braced himself or not) you can see Kobe slide his left arm inbetween him and Williams right before he slams into him.

I have no clue what other arguments are going on in the thread, I didn't bother reading it. BUt to me it looked intentional when you look at the replay. It's pretty clear Bryant saw Williams well before he even slammed into him.

[Allstar24]

Mo cheap shotted Howard last season?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPPaztyf6eA

I'm just using your logic...looks to me like Williams intentionally threw the ball at Howard and got away with it. Were you guys crying for him to get a techincal then? I think not...

[Meticode]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPPaztyf6eA

I'm just using your logic...looks to me like Williams intentionally threw the ball at Howard and got away with it. Were you guys crying for him to get a techincal then? I think not...

He deserved a technically foul for that. But it's more along the lines of unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't think throwing the ball at Howard would have injured him, but Kobe running into Williams when his back is to him and he's unprepared for it and he weighs about 20-30 pounds more is a little bit more serious.

[plowking]

Right before he runs into Williams (which is easy to see that Bryant saw him regardless if he braced himself or not) you can see Kobe slide his left arm inbetween him and Williams right before he slams into him.

I have no clue what other arguments are going on in the thread, I didn't bother reading it. BUt to me it looked intentional when you look at the replay. It's pretty clear Bryant saw Williams well before he even slammed into him.

It did look intentional on that second video I was shown.

Oh before I forget, big shout out to the 80's/90's basketball fans (also Jordan fans) who would cite this as a tough play back in the day, though now that Kobe does it, they are probably all over him and calling him dirty. :oldlol:

[plowking]

He deserved a technically foul for that. But it's more along the lines of unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't think throwing the ball at Howard would have injured him, but Kobe running into Williams when his back is to him and he's unprepared for it and he weighs about 20-30 pounds more is a little bit more serious.

Could have popped one of his huge biceps.

[artex]

who cares, worse no-calls have happened

[Meticode]

Could have popped one of his huge biceps.

I think the biggest injuries you can get from a ball being thrown at you like that is possibly a broken nose or a jammed finger. That's about it. :D

[Meticode]

who cares, worse no-calls have happened
A lot of people seemingly care. A lot of replies.

[plowking]

A lot of people seemingly care. A lot of replies.

If it was Brian Scalabrine and Kwame Brown involved, this would be 20 pages instead of 11 right now.

[kNIOKAS]

that was cheap shot.

[Disaprine]

The obsession with kobe by the 'haters' is unbelievable on this board. Some idiots will try to blame it on 'kobe stans' but looking at the threads made by the haters, its not even close. Unreal. I am surprised some fool isn't still bumping up the Milwaukee game thread.

The Cavs win a game and all of a sudden everyone's balls have grown on this site. I didn't realize that last nights game counted for more than 1 win.

Enjoy it while it lasts. BTW, since you put so much stock in last night's game. How about the Cavs being beat by Boston - at home? Using that logic, Cavs aren't even making it out of the East now are they? See how great that logic is?

Its a nice win for your team but trying to vilify kobe EVERY chance you get just makes you a straight up loser. Ya'll probably get a bonner every time you type his name on the ISH. :roll:
:applause: all truth

[Meticode]

If it was Brian Scalabrine and Kwame Brown involved, this would be 20 pages instead of 11 right now.

It probably would. It would bring up race relations and the fact Brian looks Irish and he's taking cheap shots at bust Mr. Brown.

[Disaprine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdu3m4VOvaI

from 6:50 to 7:45 shows alot of kobe *****ing......you should watch it. surely enough you can take 1 minute to watch it.

IN SLOW MOTION, it showed Bryant slightly look Mo's way, brace himself for the contact, and act like it never happened.
:lol Bruce Bitch still hating on kobe, damn :lol

[Abraham Lincoln]

It should be called a personal foul by today's standards. Nothing more. Not even close to dirty.

[Doranku]

It should be called a personal foul by today's standards. Nothing more. Not even close to dirty.

The Wise Man has spoken. :bowdown:

[Meticode]

It should be called a personal foul by today's standards. Nothing more. Not even close to dirty.

Let someone run down the court, look at you, run right into you on purpose with your back to them while you're unprepared slamming you to the ground and let's see how you still think about that when the sh!t is knocked out of you on purpose.

[Abraham Lincoln]

The Wise Man has spoken. :bowdown:
I still think it was an intentional act out of frustration, but suspension? Fine? What he did to Mike Miller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTWMVCJnG0) a few years ago was dirty. The contact with Mo Williams was not, for sometimes emotions get the best of anyone.

[DukeDelonte13]

Let someone run down the court, look at you, run right into you on purpose with your back to them while you're unprepared slamming you to the ground and let's see how you still think about that when the sh!t is knocked out of you on purpose.


people just can't accept the fact that Kobe plays like a spoiled baby

[Disaprine]

i hope you're not saying that im bruceb. but yea, he probably made that vid.
i was talking about the video man :lol

[Meticode]

people just can't accept the fact that Kobe plays like a spoiled baby
Don't worry, LeBron does too when he doesn't get calls. It goes like that for a lot of players in the NBA who are stars. They'd rather stand by the ref at the other end of hte court while their team is trying to defend a fast-break and argue the fact than playing the game.

Regardless of all that, Kobe knew what he was doing and purposely ran into him. But I don't hate him for it, it's part of sports, but it should be called at least a foul on that, but nothing was called.

We need Kobe to do that "I touched the ball coach" commercial. "I ran into Mo hard on purpose coach, I need to be T'd." LOL

[Doranku]

Let someone run down the court, look at you, run right into you on purpose with your back to them while you're unprepared slamming you to the ground and let's see how you still think about that when the sh!t is knocked out of you on purpose.

:oldlol: Yeah, Kobe totally SLAMMED him to the ground. He definitely RAN right into Mo, full speed ahead! He wasn't casually jogging or anything. The man was SPRINTING. Dude looked like Edge out there with that Spear!

Poor Mo, dude got the **** knocked out of him, man. His theatrics afterwards certainly weren't a byproduct of Varejao's acting lessons, oh no. I'm surprised he could still walk after that brutal assault by Bryant.

EDIT: Wait, wait, wait.. now you guys are claiming Mo is injured? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Give me a ****ing break.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Let someone run down the court, look at you, run right into you on purpose with your back to them while you're unprepared slamming you to the ground and let's see how you still think about that when the sh!t is knocked out of you on purpose.
Used to happen plenty in many pick up matches. The Kobe/Mo play was obviously intentional but not malicious or dirty. Think of it as any random physical team prior to 2004 that specialized in back picking tightly glued man defenders. Could easily be mistaken as a 'clumsy' play by the ref and would likely have been a non-call say 15 years ago. The fact that not calling it on Kobe is an example of superstar treatment shows how much softer the league has become. But as I have said it should have been a foul.

[Lakers13]

Wow, this is still being talked about? Really?

[artex]

A lot of babies* seemingly care. A lot of crying*.


Wow, this is still being talked about? Really?

seriously man

[DukeDelonte13]

Used to happen plenty in many pick up matches. The Kobe/Mo play was obviously intentional but not malicious or dirty. Think of it as any random physical team prior to 2004 that specialized in back picking tightly glued man defenders. Could easily be mistaken as a 'clumsy' play by the ref and would likely have been a non-call say 15 years ago. The fact that not calling it on Kobe is an example of superstar treatment shows how much softer the league has become. But as I have said it should have been a foul.


if you are intentionally trying to bowl someone over how in the hell is that not malicious or dirty?

Its basketball not hockey.

[chazzy]

kinda like the fake president above you. hitting Mike Miller from the front and injuring him deserves a fine/suspension, but blindsidind a smaller Mo Williams and injuring him only deserves a foul :oldlol: .

i just want them to be un-biased for ONCE......just once.

Since when is Abraham on Kobe's nuts? :confusedshrug:

It was intentional of course, but definitely not suspension worthy. Not even close.

[Doranku]

:oldlol:

:rolleyes:

[itsGameTime]

dont worry about them Meti, they're just trolls. suck on kobe's balls for as long as they can, whenever they can.

That's ironic, considering that's what you and a few other cavs fans have been doing for the last 72 hours. :oldlol:

[Knoe Itawl]

Obvious cheap shot from a player with a history of cheap shots.

The thing I hate about Kobe Fanboys is how they deny the OBVIOUS. Wade is probably my favorite player, but if he did something like that I would call him out on it and admit it was a punk move. What's right is right, even if it's a million dollar athlete.

When you get to the point where you worship celebrities so much that you can never call them out on anything, then you're nothing more than a pathetic hero worshipper.

[Doranku]

Obvious cheap shot from a player with a history of cheap shots.

The thing I hate about Kobe Fanboys is how they deny the OBVIOUS. Wade is probably my favorite player, but if he did something like that I would call him out on it and admit it was a punk move. What's right is right, even if it's a million dollar athlete.

When you get to the point where you worship celebrities so much that you can never call them out on anything, then you're nothing more than a pathetic hero worshipper.

Who's denying anything? I'm pretty sure close to EVERYONE who's posted in this thread acknowledged that it was intentional.

[artex]

i am definitely a kobe fan, i think hes the best player in the league right now, and i do admit that what he did was pretty cheap and it shouldve been a foul, but so what if it wasn't-the main thing is that the cavs won lol

[Lakers13]

Obvious cheap shot from a player with a history of cheap shots.

The thing I hate about Kobe Fanboys is how they deny the OBVIOUS. Wade is probably my favorite player, but if he did something like that I would call him out on it and admit it was a punk move. What's right is right, even if it's a million dollar athlete.

When you get to the point where you worship celebrities so much that you can never call them out on anything, then you're nothing more than a pathetic hero worshipper.


:wtf: are you talking about? The consensus say he did it intentionally, they just dont think its fine worthy, and its not.

Damn Knoe read a thread once in awhile before you start your Kobe-Fan hating

[All Net]

Kobe was wrong for what he did but you could tell it was one of those very frustrating games.

[1~Gibson~1]

Who's denying anything? I'm pretty sure close to EVERYONE who's posted in this thread acknowledged that it was intentional.
not really. some said that he may not have seen mo

mo overreacted

and "that's how it was back in the 80's/90's", implying that therfore it isnt a dirty hit

[Lakers13]

not really. some said that he may not have seen mo

mo overreacted

and "that's how it was back in the 80's/90's", implying that therfore it isnt a dirty hit

Please quote these retards so they can be taunted, not our entire fan base.

[chazzy]

Please quote these retards so they can be taunted, not our entire fan base.

+1, you guys need to realize that since there are a ton of Laker fans on this board, you're bound to see a number of troll posts. Don't generalize a fanbase because of a couple of trolls.. if this board had as many Cavs fans, there would be a bunch of Cavs trolls as well.

[Abraham Lincoln]

if you are intentionally trying to bowl someone over how in the hell is that not malicious or dirty?

Its basketball not hockey.
Malicious is Bill Laimbeer chokeholding Jordan under the rim instead of boxing out or Greg Anthony in street clothes sucker punching KJ from behind in the head.

Most folk now would be calling for Chuck's head if he committed this good hard foul today.

3:15 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2PJ8j14MFA



However no excuses for Kobe as this is a repeat offense for him. He needs to control his frustration and emotions better.

[Knoe Itawl]

That's what I was saying...f*cking bunch of whiners. Can't believe this topic is still going...


truth.com


These Kobe haters are pathetic man.

They act like little b!tchez, on some "i don't like him, cuz he's not my friend" type bytch shyt.

grow the fukk up


I'm surprised they didn't commit suicide after last year's Finals after he got rid of the ''wouldn't have won without Shaq'' excuse forever.

Its okay though when the Lakers have another 3-peat in 2012 Kobe will get that seventh ring and surpass there childhood hero and most of them just won't know what to do but off themselves.

It doesn't matter though Kobe and the Lakers could go on to win 9 or 10 rings and the haters and Jordan religious faithfuls will still bring up the same shyt like they do now. ''bbb-but Kobe had Gasol/Bynum!'' or ''bbb-but Kobe can't win without dominate big man!'' and ''bbb-but Kobe could have been replaced by any other guard back then and the Lakers would have still won 3 rings'' :oldlol:


I picture some posters here as the type to scream, cry at their televisions, while punching a nearby wall in their house. Its just highly emotional around here.
The obsession with kobe by the 'haters' is unbelievable on this board. Some idiots will try to blame it on 'kobe stans' but looking at the threads made by the haters, its not even close. Unreal. I am surprised some fool isn't still bumping up the Milwaukee game thread.

The Cavs win a game and all of a sudden everyone's balls have grown on this site. I didn't realize that last nights game counted for more than 1 win.

Enjoy it while it lasts. BTW, since you put so much stock in last night's game. How about the Cavs being beat by Boston - at home? Using that logic, Cavs aren't even making it out of the East now are they? See how great that logic is?

Its a nice win for your team but trying to vilify kobe EVERY chance you get just makes you a straight up loser. Ya'll probably get a bonner every time you type his name on the ISH. :roll:

Mo flopped. What a *****.:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:


jk.

I respect Kobe even more after witnessing his competitive physicality.
The only response to this thread should be to call it what it was..........a punk move. But Kobe Fanboys don't have it in them to EVER say something about their God.

Edit: Didn't notice Jello's "J/K" in white.

[Knoe Itawl]

:wtf: are you talking about? The consensus say he did it intentionally, they just dont think its fine worthy, and its not.

Damn Knoe read a thread once in awhile before you start your Kobe-Fan hating

I read the thread. See above.

[Doranku]

It really depends on what you define a 'dirty play' as. When I think of a dirty play, I think of a player that tries to inflict harm upon or injure another player. Do you really think Kobe was trying to injure Mo? It was a dick move driven by frustration, and perhaps an attempt to get under Mo's skin a little. Definitely not suspension worthy.

[Knoe Itawl]

Malicious is Bill Laimbeer chokeholding Jordan under the rim instead of boxing out or Greg Anthony in street clothes sucker punching KJ from behind in the head.

Most folk now would be calling for Chuck's head if he committed this good hard foul today.

3:15 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2PJ8j14MFA



However no excuses for Kobe as this is a repeat offense for him. He needs to control his frustration and emotions better.

Ah Abe. So wise, yet so naive. You should know damn well by now that this will NEVER happen. Whether it's the elbow throwing or a plethora of incidents over the years, Kobe has proven that he is a prima donna who is GOING to lash out in cheap ways when things aren't going his way. I would venture to say that most players have a "frustration" incident. Or two, or three over time. An incident that's not part of their character but brought on by pressures due to the "heat of battle". However, Bryant feels that the world should bow before his might. Therefore, when he doesn't get his way, he's going to act out in nasty ways like a petulant child. If this hasn't changed in 12 seasons, it's never going to. He will never learn to "control his frustration and emotions better" because he doesn't feel that he HAS to. The rules don't apply to him. Other players would have gotten like 5 technicals with the all the stuff he did the other night.

[Allstar24]

Wait a min...show me ANY post where I implied that Kobe's "cheap shot" was not intentional? You are quoting me calling the Cavs fans whiners. But show me the quote where I said Kobe didn't run into Williams intentionally. God damn, people are so f*cking stupid.

[chazzy]

:ohwell:

Two of them aren't even Laker fans (one hates the Lakers) and 4/5 of the Laker fans you quoted said it was INTENTIONAL. That's what Doranku said, most Laker fans admitted it was intentional. That's all.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Ah Abe. So wise, yet so naive.
Optimistic is the proper term. :cheers:


You should know damn well by now that this will NEVER happen. Whether it's the elbow throwing or a plethora of incidents over the years, Kobe has proven that he is a prima donna who is GOING to lash out in cheap ways when things aren't going his way. I would venture to say that most players have a "frustration" incident. Or two, or three over time. An incident that's not part of their character but brought on by pressures due to the "heat of battle". However, Bryant feels that the world should bow before his might. Therefore, when he doesn't get his way, he's going to act out in nasty ways like a petulant child. If this hasn't changed in 12 seasons, it's never going to. He will never learn to "control his frustration and emotions better" because he doesn't feel that he HAS to. The rules don't apply to him. Other players would have gotten like 5 technicals with the all the stuff he did the other night.
I will save comment since I missed the game. But yes. His psychological stability in times of distress and indecisivness are his big flaws as a professional basketball player. The Mo play alone should not warrant a suspension or fine.

[Knoe Itawl]

Wait a min...show me ANY post where I implied that Kobe's "cheap shot" was not intentional? I didn't say one word about that. God damn, people are so f*cking stupid.

Anyone with "24" "8" "Kobe" "Bryant" etc. in their username is a f*cking fanboy. That's number one. So I won't expect you to use any reason, but I'll try explaining anyway.

It was a cheap, indefensible move. So anyone who comes into this thread with anything other than "Damn, that was a cheap, indefensible move" or something of the like, is just a pathetic hero worshipper. Period. Any comments about people "whining" or Mo flopping or all that other nonsense are just tactics to deflect away from the matter at hand. Cavs fans have a right to call Kobe on it, just as fans of any other team would have a right to call a player out on it if it was done to their player.

[bada bing]

I respect Kobe even more after witnessing his competitive physicality.

you respect him even more now because you are a spoiled stubborn crybaby just like your hero there. You should be sent to a juvenile boot camp so your head can be set straight.

[kkling]

Kobe was wrong for what he did but you could tell it was one of those very frustrating games.

You should judge people when things aren't going their way, not when they're on top. He was frustrated, and acted like a ***** in response.

[Allstar24]

Anyone with "24" "8" "Kobe" "Bryant" etc. in their username is a f*cking fanboy. That's number one. So I won't expect you to use any reason, but I'll try explaining anyway.

It was a cheap, indefensible move. So anyone who comes into this thread with anything other than "Damn, that was a cheap, indefensible move" or something of the like, is just a pathetic hero worshipper. Period. Any comments about people "whining" or Mo flopping or all that other nonsense are just tactics to deflect away from the matter at hand. Cavs fans have a right to call Kobe on it, just as fans of any other team would have a right to call a player out on it if it was done to their player.
Riiight...it's so f-ing crazy for me to be a fan of the best player on my favorite team, especially when that player happens to be one of the best players in the league.

I still don't see the quote where I said Kobe didn't knock Williams down intentionally. You are so blinded by your irrational hate for Kobe that anyone who doesn't whine and cry like a b*tch about this will automatically be labeled a "fanboy"...:oldlol:

[monkeypox]

It was a cheap shot but nothing to get suspended over. In fact it wasn't that much more contact than Shaq gave on the preceeding play, Mo williams was just smaller.

[oh the horror]

Sad state of affairs for today's NBA fan when things like this get this much of a response. People crying for suspensions over nonsense.


No one was hurt, so why is everyone crying? If it had been Kobe on the ground, I would have said the same thing....I probably would have been like "hmmm, Kobe needs to not get knocked down like that next time"



Some of you need to cut the crying sh*t out. I'll tell you like this....you come to a pickup game with my buddies, and I...and you act like that? You're going to leave the game pissed off. We throw people on the ground from time to time.

[ProfessorMurder]

No one was hurt, so why is everyone crying? If it had been Kobe on the ground, I would have said the same thing....I probably would have been like "hmmm, Kobe needs to not get knocked down like that next time"

Yeah YOU may have, because you're a good poster, and fairly unbiased (and like zombies)... But many a Laker fan would be complaining worse than the people in this thread.

[Knoe Itawl]

Sad state of affairs for today's NBA fan when things like this get this much of a response. People crying for suspensions over nonsense.


No one was hurt, so why is everyone crying? If it had been Kobe on the ground, I would have said the same thing....I probably would have been like "hmmm, Kobe needs to not get knocked down like that next time"



Some of you need to cut the crying sh*t out. I'll tell you like this....you come to a pickup game with my buddies, and I...and you act like that? You're going to leave the game pissed off. We throw people on the ground from time to time.

Here's the thing. If you want to say that he doesn't deserve to be suspended, or that a player should suck up something like that, then it's one thing. But to call people whiners because they're calling Kobe out on a bullshyt, punk move is the mark of a fanboy. Simple as that. Kobe's a punk that's been known to do shyt like that.

And if you do something like that in a pickup game, then don't be surprised to be picking up your teeth. Pickup games don't have refs and people breaking up fights and what not. Therefore, you want to pull a cheap shot even LESS in a pickup game than in the NBA where it's more organized. I don't mind hard fouls. I play the post so hard fouls and physical play is to be expected. However, some cheap shyt will cause a fight.

[oh the horror]

Here's the thing. If you want to say that he doesn't deserve to be suspended, or that a player should suck up something like that, then it's one thing. But to call people whiners because they're calling Kobe out on a bullshyt, punk move is the mark of a fanboy. Simple as that. Kobe's a punk that's been known to do shyt like that.

And if you do something like that in a pickup game, then don't be surprised to be picking up your teeth. Pickup games don't have refs and people breaking up fights and what not. Therefore, you want to pull a cheap shot even LESS in a pickup game than in the NBA where it's more organized. I don't mind hard fouls. I play the post so hard fouls and physical play is to be expected. However, some cheap shyt will cause a fight.



Bro, he didnt walk up to Mo and sock him in his head. He ran down court, ran into him, and Mo crumbled to the floor as if he was knocked out. Basketball is a contact sport. Lets all not forget that at the end of the day. Not one ref on the court that night called that play as a foul, or flagrant. Nothing.

Its probably because it was Kobe, but also because no one cared about it. Little to no incident.

[kkling]

Bro, he didnt walk up to Mo and sock him in his head. He ran down court, ran into him, and Mo crumbled to the floor as if he was knocked out. Basketball is a contact sport. Lets all not forget that at the end of the day. Not one ref on the court that night called that play as a foul, or flagrant. Nothing.

Its probably because it was Kobe, but also because no one cared about it. Little to no incident.

Fisher jumps in front of Lebron who was running up the court, that's called a foul. Kobe runs over someone with their back turned, and that's not a foul because the refs didn't see it? Good logic.

[oh the horror]

And what people need to also know, is basketball is not a gentleman's sport.


You go out there trying to be Mr Nice Guy, and you're going to get your ass thrown around. If you dont use "cheap shots" within the flow of the game to your advantage, then you're going to lose.

Players....the GOOD players, all have their little cheap shot moments. Its how the game is played. The secret is, to develop your little cheap moves within the game, and not make them so obvious.


Now im not saying this case wasnt obvious, because we all saw it. But that is how the game is played.


Why are people so outraged by a tradition that has been going on in ball for years?


Every now and then, a player DOES get tossed around. If you lose your temper, then thats on you. Sometimes the refs or the league isnt going to save you.

[oh the horror]

Fisher jumps in front of Lebron who was running up the court, that's called a foul. Kobe runs over someone with their back turned, and that's not a foul because the refs didn't see it? Good logic.



Has nothing to do with logic dude. Its how the game is played. Fisher took his own chance. They refs might of not even called it his way.

[goldenryan]

Cavs trophy case
http://www.burleyvarsityclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/100_2107-1024x768.jpg
don't you get a trophy for winning the eastern conference? :hammerhead:

[1~Gibson~1]

Sad state of affairs for today's NBA fan when things like this get this much of a response. People crying for suspensions over nonsense.


No one was hurt, so why is everyone crying? If it had been Kobe on the ground, I would have said the same thing....I probably would have been like "hmmm, Kobe needs to not get knocked down like that next time"



Some of you need to cut the crying sh*t out. I'll tell you like this....you come to a pickup game with my buddies, and I...and you act like that? You're going to leave the game pissed off. We throw people on the ground from time to time.actually mo injured his lower back and you know damn well that you would've been all over Mo if he had knocked Kobe down :oldlol:



Has nothing to do with logic dude. Its how the game is played. Fisher took his own chance. They refs might of not even called it his way.
but they DID, therefore they shouldve called the foul on Kobe

[oh the horror]

but they DID, therefore they shouldve called the foul on Kobe


Man you KNOW the refs dont always call one way or another. That game overall was ridiculously reffed on both sides, so im not even shocked.


I wouldnt have been upset if they called a foul, or flagrant or whatever on Kobe though. He knocked him down. There is no dispute there, But since they didnt call anything, its like "ah well"



I just dont understand how, given the way players have been for years, that everyone can get so heated over this....Or is it because its Kobe that commited this foul?

[oh the horror]

I am far from a "homer". At the end of the day, I know Kobe knocked him down. And how can anyone attack the Cavs? They whipped our ass plain and simple.

[1~Gibson~1]

I am far from a "homer". At the end of the day, I know Kobe knocked him down. And how can anyone attack the Cavs? They whipped our ass plain and simple.
well you might not be a homer, but when you say things like:

Some of you need to cut the crying sh*t out. I'll tell you like this....you come to a pickup game with my buddies, and I...and you act like that? You're going to leave the game pissed off. We throw people on the ground from time to time.

you make yourself and your fanbase look very stupid by covering up Kobe's dirty play by comparing it to the way you and your "buddies" play basketball with a side of WWE.

[oh the horror]

This isnt the sasha vujacic league of under-extraordinary gentlemen dude. You play ball, and sometimes you get thrown around, and even hurt. Thats how the game is played.

[1~Gibson~1]

This isnt the sasha vujacic league of under-extraordinary gentlemen dude. You play ball, and sometimes you get thrown around, and even hurt. Thats how the game is played.
i understand that.....but when you intentionally blindside someone, it's a foul :confusedshrug:

[bada bing]

Sad state of affairs for today's NBA fan when things like this get this much of a response. People crying for suspensions over nonsense.


No one was hurt, so why is everyone crying? If it had been Kobe on the ground, I would have said the same thing....I probably would have been like "hmmm, Kobe needs to not get knocked down like that next time"



Some of you need to cut the crying sh*t out. I'll tell you like this....you come to a pickup game with my buddies, and I...and you act like that? You're going to leave the game pissed off. We throw people on the ground from time to time.

fact remains if someone pulled half of what kobe pulled, you laker fans would be crying foul and asking for massive suspensions. You know it so just admit it and shut up. The NBA needs to be equal to everyone and this whole star treatment that some players are getting, which include Kobe and Lebron, is really killing the game. This needs to be stopped.

[poido123]

In all honesty, the collision was nothing to write about, Mo played it up like he got pulverised, and Kobe gave him a little tap...I have no problem with this sort of play, its not like Kobe hasnt done dirty stuff before, and its pretty much expexted from him, unfortunately he is untoucheable, league wont do anything so carry on...

[dynasty1978]

i understand that.....but when you intentionally blindside someone, it's a foul :confusedshrug:

Intentionally blindside? my god, will you relax...of course it should've been a foul, hell flagrant one for all i care, but dude, quit acting like Kobe is Julius Peppers. It wasn't even a fraction as bad as Horry vs Nash...that's a true body check.

[Myth]

This shouldn't be a matter of Kobe, but a matter of the refs. It was just such an obvious foul that there is no excuse for every ref to miss it. Plays like this are where it would come in handy for a ref to be watching from a monitor.

[Bernie Nips]

I wouldn't normally call for a suspension, but the homer in me wants to after Ray Ray got a suspension for his elbow to the gnads of Varejao last season. Varejao wasn't even injured cos he's got no gnads, whereas Mo actually did get hurt on this.

But I don't think either really warrant suspension. Though I do believe Kobe is a ***** with a temper problem and gets away with far too much. Dirty, dirty player.

[BlackMamba24]

wasnt a cheap shot...kobe's a classy guy...possibly the goat in that category

[Killbot]

wasnt a cheap shot...kobe's a classy guy...possibly the goat in that category

It was a cheap shot. Kobe glanced over and saw Mo Williams. Then he turn his head slightly and pretend he never saw Mo Williams and collided.
How is that not a cheap shot? Kobe homers are ridiculous.

[chazzy]

It was a cheap shot. Kobe glanced over and saw Mo Williams. Then he turn his head slightly and pretend he never saw Mo Williams and collided.
How is that not a cheap shot? Kobe homers are ridiculous.

Just look at his title and location.. obviously a troll

[ThePointGuard11]

Kobe has been a dirty player from elbows to his jumping forearm to the face a few years back, this shouldn't surprise anyone...Mo Williams still needs to be tougher than that though he didn't hit him that hard, and if this was the 80s/early 90s he would just get him back.

[oh the horror]

People act like most of the greats werent filthy players. Bird, Jordan, Thomas, all of those dudes were all dirty players to a degree. If you cant swim, you sure as hell will be caught up sinking.


I think the refs need to be checked. And Mo needs to get his inner ear checked, because the hit wasnt that insanely hard.

[kkling]

People act like most of the greats werent filthy players. Bird, Jordan, Thomas, all of those dudes were all dirty players to a degree. If you cant swim, you sure as hell will be caught up sinking.


I think the refs need to be checked. And Mo needs to get his inner ear checked, because the hit wasnt that insanely hard.

Hate this argument, people can be injured from a lot less.

[RedBlackAttack]

People act like most of the greats werent filthy players. Bird, Jordan, Thomas, all of those dudes were all dirty players to a degree. If you cant swim, you sure as hell will be caught up sinking.


I think the refs need to be checked. And Mo needs to get his inner ear checked, because the hit wasnt that insanely hard.
He pretty clearly got the wind knocked out of him, which can be pretty painful and debilitating for a minute or two and it takes a little time to recover. I'm sure that we've all been there. It isn't a fun feeling that you can just 'run off.'

Too much is being made about this incident. It was a dirty play, but nothing worthy of a 15-page debate. A fine may be in order, but outside of that, this issue should be dead. There is far more discussion about this play than has been the actual game, which is too bad.

The Cavs are playing great ball right now... Destroyed the Rockets tonight. I don't claim to be a perfect prognosticator, but I did predict that it would take about 25 games for this team to get completely comfortable playing with one another (check the old threads).

:pimp:

[DuMa]

wasnt a cheap shot...kobe's a classy guy...possibly the goat in that category

people who rape other people are not classy

[big baller]

Just because Kobe was not getting his fouls called he takes out the cavs best player that quarter :rollseyes:

I love the lakers, but Kobe really knows how to be a super douche.

[ThePointGuard11]

People act like most of the greats werent filthy players. Bird, Jordan, Thomas, all of those dudes were all dirty players to a degree. If you cant swim, you sure as hell will be caught up sinking.


I think the refs need to be checked. And Mo needs to get his inner ear checked, because the hit wasnt that insanely hard.

You're right they were, as were Karl Malone and John Stockton...it's ol' school at its finest the thing I hate most about Kobe's game is those in the post elbows he throws, he'd mess around and get his @$$ whooped throwing those on the playground.

[qrich]

wasnt a cheap shot...kobe's a classy guy...possibly the goat in that category

This has to be a joke....right?

[OneMoreSucka]

Sad state of affairs for today's NBA fan when things like this get this much of a response. People crying for suspensions over nonsense.


No one was hurt, so why is everyone crying? If it had been Kobe on the ground, I would have said the same thing....I probably would have been like "hmmm, Kobe needs to not get knocked down like that next time"



Some of you need to cut the crying sh*t out. I'll tell you like this....you come to a pickup game with my buddies, and I...and you act like that? You're going to leave the game pissed off. We throw people on the ground from time to time.
Please, spare me the "it's part of the game" attitude. Where were you last year in the WCF when Dahntay Jones deliberately tripped Kobe? It's the same thing and I'll be damned if you weren't like every other Laker fan demanding a suspension when it happened.

[oh the horror]

Please, spare me the "it's part of the game" attitude. Where were you last year in the WCF when Dahntay Jones deliberately tripped Kobe? It's the same thing and I'll be damned if you weren't like every other Laker fan demanding a suspension when it happened.


See the problem with this argument is because you see the Laker avatar, and you see that im a fan, you deliberately assume my stand point on things, based on a sweeping generalization that you, and some others have in YOUR OWN MINDS about what you BELIEVE Lakers fans think.


It serves your own purposes better when trying to argue a point. If you BELIEVE that we only take a stand when something is AGAINST a Laker, rather than it being the other way around, then it makes it easier to argue this silly point altogether.



The fact is, with the exception of someone flat out THROWING A PUNCH at another player, I could care less about players getting shoved, tripped, etc.

[Mrofir]

Just when I was starting to respect the guy, he goes and makes me feel dumb.

I'm gonna go watch that Raja Bell clothesline a few times, that always helps.

Reasons a dirty play can be forgiven\somewhat justified

1) in retaliation for someone else's dirty play
2) in defense of a teammate (best reason)
3) in the context of a highly contentious, bitter and physically intense rivalry

Reasons a dirty play makes you a total douchebag

1) I'm not getting my calls
2) My team is losing
3) I'm not playing well
4) I'm not shooting well

Which category does Kobe fall into? :confusedshrug:

[Splitz77]

I get the frusteration he felt. But that was a cheap shot. Him running into mo, and elbowing him in the throat. You just dont do that.. Its not anything else than disrespecting the game.

[Splitz77]

See the problem with this argument is because you see the Laker avatar, and you see that im a fan, you deliberately assume my stand point on things, based on a sweeping generalization that you, and some others have in YOUR OWN MINDS about what you BELIEVE Lakers fans think.


It serves your own purposes better when trying to argue a point. If you BELIEVE that we only take a stand when something is AGAINST a Laker, rather than it being the other way around, then it makes it easier to argue this silly point altogether.



The fact is, with the exception of someone flat out THROWING A PUNCH at another player, I could care less about players getting shoved, tripped, etc.

Okay. so your saying throwing an elbow is okay? Thats ****ing stupid. So lets say, that right after opening tip, Kobe just intentionally goes out and elbows let say Mo Williams right in the face. Intentionally, like a full out elbow to the face, like he actually wants to fight. Your okay with that cause its not a punch???Thats the stupidest **** I have ever heard..

[kap]

i like that shove. no cry babies in the nba please.

just so you dont say "omg laker fan this laker fan that"

i also loved the clothesline by raja bell. if you can't take a hit like that getting paid millions of dolalrs, gtfo

[poido123]

i like that shove. no cry babies in the nba please.

just so you dont say "omg laker fan this laker fan that"

i also loved the clothesline by raja bell. if you can't take a hit like that getting paid millions of dolalrs, gtfo

Well just a little education for you, any player does this to Kobe, its an automatic suspension...Quit the bravado crap, your homerism reeks...

[poido123]

Just when I was starting to respect the guy, he goes and makes me feel dumb.

I'm gonna go watch that Raja Bell clothesline a few times, that always helps.

Reasons a dirty play can be forgiven\somewhat justified

1) in retaliation for someone else's dirty play
2) in defense of a teammate (best reason)
3) in the context of a highly contentious, bitter and physically intense rivalry

Reasons a dirty play makes you a total douchebag

1) I'm not getting my calls
2) My team is losing
3) I'm not playing well
4) I'm not shooting well

Which category does Kobe fall into? :confusedshrug:

I couldn't of put it any better, great post :applause:

I don't think any Kobe fan is gonna touch this one :lol :oldlol: :roll:

[Shep]

kobe's trying to act like he didn't see mo fails on so many levels. come to think of it, it kinda goes hand in hand with kobe failing to disguise his "no look" passes :roll: