The International Prospect predicted to go number 4 in the draft

[Yung D-Will]

They Predict he goes number 4
http://i49.tinypic.com/1zprwy0.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E37MBYJ-w7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf6MYzLOBt4

Apparently he has good back to the basket moves and is a finesse big man but he also posses a consistent perimeter jumpshot

Videos: (he's wearing the white jersey #11)
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=kHiw8ZANXcE
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ92hs-8p8w
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=SJAhBePHCss
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=Bug1wOOz7oA

[Yung D-Will]

He also has great footwork as we're accustomed to seeing from international big men. But to defend with bigger men in the Nba he needs to get stronger.

He's one of those versatile international big man that can do a bit of everything,can knock down the jumper play with their back to the basket and has great footwork.

[brantonli]

I don't like that sentence about him being lazy and content at playing better, not dominating his opponents....attitude is one of the most underrated aspects of an NBA player, especially for a rookie.

[Yung D-Will]

I don't like that sentence about him being lazy and content at playing better, not dominating his opponents....attitude is one of the most underrated aspects of an NBA player, especially for a rookie.

Well thats something he can mature into but yea once he goes in the Nba I don't think that not dominating his opponents thing will be a factor, the second he goes against someone like Amare I think he's gonna get that knocked right out of him :oldlol:


He reminds me Gasol in a way because he can basiclly do everything and that versatility is something you don't see everyday but you see alot oversees

[G-train]

I don't like that sentence about him being lazy and content at playing better, not dominating his opponents....attitude is one of the most underrated aspects of an NBA player, especially for a rookie.
Yep - this rarely changes.

I foresee Darko 2.0 - at least in attitude.
Reminds me of Nikoloz Tskitishvili as a player.

[Yung D-Will]

Here's a vid that has clips of him agienst team Usa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2ZhphUIiQ

[kumquat]

The euros play a lot different game to the NBA. You see guys like Gallinari, Bargnani, Scola. They all have limited success, just for the fact that the game is a lot different to that of the NBA. It's not that they won't succeed in the NBA it's more that they won't turn out to be "superstars"

[Yung D-Will]

The euros play a lot different game to the NBA. You see guys like Gallinari, Bargnani, Scola. They all have limited success, just for the fact that the game is a lot different to that of the NBA. It's not that they won't succeed in the NBA it's more that they won't turn out to be "superstars"

It depends there's some big men like Dirk, and Gasol that have success because they can do everything . And basically I see that in this guy He can shoot, Has great back to the basket moves, is athletic, can pass the ball, can rebound is a good shot blocker(Need Improvements) and is great on the break

[Yung D-Will]

The thing that popped out about me him first to me is that he's a great rebounder

[Real Men Wear Green]

His skills looked solid in that vid. I'd like to see some tape of him defending and rebounding in traffic though.

[PleezeBelieve]

Other than finishing skills, this guy looks ALOT like KG on offense. I like what I see. Moves well with the ball in his hands. Has a decent stroke off the dribble. That sh*t is invaluable at 7'0.

I'm impressed. His defense is probably trash, tho.

[Yung D-Will]

Other than finishing skills, this guy looks ALOT like KG on offense. I like what I see. Moves well with the ball in his hands. Has a decent stroke off the dribble. That sh*t is invaluable at 7'0.

I'm impressed. His defense is probably trash, tho.

No he's actually a good defender but he needs to bulk up cause he gets posted up and dosen't have alot of muscle right now and alright shotblocker too

Lol I have vids of games of him I'm watching right now.

His 3 point shot is very consistent though

And he's a good free throw shooter

[G-train]

Yep - this rarely changes.

I foresee Darko 2.0 - at least in attitude.
Reminds me of Nikoloz Tskitishvili as a player.

Number 5 pick to DEnver, 2002.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkn8mzXVEvQ

Busted.


why? it takes a special mindset and attitude to succeed as a tall jumpshooting euro in the NBA. Dirk and Danilo have it - this kid doesnt. 3 years and out.

[G-train]

Other than finishing skills, this guy looks ALOT like KG on offense. I like what I see. Moves well with the ball in his hands. Has a decent stroke off the dribble. That sh*t is invaluable at 7'0.

I'm impressed. His defense is probably trash, tho.

The vid is deceiving - he is nothing like KG on offense. He isn't half the finisher of KG and he plays much more around the 3PT line.

[Yung D-Will]

The vid is deceiving - he is nothing like KG on offense. He isn't half the finisher of KG and he plays much more around the 3PT line.

He actually likes to play inside. So he can get offensive rebounds. He uses his 3 point shot to make it easier for others to play around him.

[Yung D-Will]

These are the positive and negatives most scouts seem to agree on about him right now


Upside is huge, fantastic size, lefty, smooth, athletic, great slasher, finisher with both hands, has ballhandling skills already, good range, quick release, fine rebounder, good post moves, though a perimenter-oriented pf, excellent footwork, good body-use, fine mobility, good passing game.

BUT, pretty bad mentality, ultra skinny, still immature (he was so afraid and shy in Prague 15 months ago and now he is a bully on court), unable to match-up with bigger opponents (like with Koufos yesterday), not a consistent inside defender in one on one, still has ways to go, although fundamentals are there.

[el gringos]

Not #4- top 2, he's got it all- the skita comparisons are stupid because we never ever saw skita be productive on any court- motiejunas stood out in the hoop summit game against the top american current ncaa freshman, stood out due to skills and size- and after he puts weight on he's as good a 7 ft prospect as there's been

[G-train]

If Ed Davis is on the board you better be taking him over this guy.

I'll leave it at that.

[PleezeBelieve]

The vid is deceiving - he is nothing like KG on offense. He isn't half the finisher of KG and he plays much more around the 3PT line.
So what you saying? I trust my eyes.

Yung, post more vids

[Yung D-Will]

If Ed Davis is on the board you better be taking him over this guy.

I'll leave it at that.

Well for Utah I'd definitely rather have this guy :cheers:

[Yung D-Will]

So what you saying? I trust my eyes.

Yung, post more vids

Ok hold on I'm just trying to figure out what the hell his number is cause it seems to change every game :lol

[HylianNightmare]

The vids look solid, hope he doesn't go the darko route

[G-train]

Not #4- top 2, he's got it all- the skita comparisons are stupid because we never ever saw skita be productive on any court- motiejunas stood out in the hoop summit game against the top american current ncaa freshman, stood out due to skills and size- and after he puts weight on he's as good a 7 ft prospect as there's been

Huh? He plays just like Skita.
And many busts have played well against NCAA freshman.

The NBA is a man's game, and the weak minded don't succeed. I'm sure he will have a great Euro career.

[Yung D-Will]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JNjxJ8kmR0

Better quality

[Yung D-Will]

I think he's number 11

[Yung D-Will]

He was the one that posted up at 2:35 all i know lol

[PleezeBelieve]

Huh? He plays just like Skita.
And many busts have played well against NCAA freshman.

The NBA is a man's game, and the weak minded don't succeed. I'm sure he will have a great Euro career.
I'm no fan of the Euro hype hut I see tremendous nightmare matchup skills with this guy. Skita was 6'9, this guy is a legit 7'0. His balls skills are very impressive.

With more tape on the guy, I might consider taking him over Wall. :confusedshrug:

[Yung D-Will]

I'm no fan of the Euro hype hut I see tremendous nightmare matchup skills with this guy. Skita was 6'9, this guy is a legit 7'0. His balls skills are very impressive.

With more tape on the guy, I might consider taking him over Wall. :confusedshrug:


He starts to ball after the 4 min mark lmao

[Yung D-Will]

when he got the ball inside it looked like it was lights out for the other team lol

[G-train]

I'm no fan of the Euro hype hut I see tremendous nightmare matchup skills with this guy. Skita was 6'9, this guy is a legit 7'0. His balls skills are very impressive.

With more tape on the guy, I might consider taking him over Wall. :confusedshrug:

lol

[G-train]

when he got the ball inside it looked like it was lights out for the other team lol

?

When?

[spree43]

Checked out that video

First impression - wheres the crowd?

then he bricked a FT, got dominated in the post, set an illegal screen,

Based on this video he really is too skinny to play PF in the NBA

And those attitude comments in the draft review make me question him

I'll have to have a better look to form a solid opinion though

[Shaolinswords]

He kinda looks like Russell Crowe on that pic, no ? :lol

[Yung D-Will]

?

When?

4:00-4:04


4:36-4:42 take it in strong and gets to the line

4:52-4:56 He slashes to the rim and finishes

5:53-5:56 Inside

1:16-1:22 great pass

6:03- 6:06 tip in


5:08-5:12 Knocks down mid range jumper


yEA YOU go search from 2-4 I'm to lazy for that

But he got to the freethrow line at will

[Yung D-Will]

Checked out that video

First impression - wheres the crowd?

then he bricked a FT, got dominated in the post, set an illegal screen,

Based on this video he really is too skinny to play PF in the NBA

And those attitude comments in the draft review make me question him

I'll have to have a better look to form a solid opinion though

He hits like 10 straight freethrows after that. And that was number 15 that set the screen wasn't it? He needs to bulk up i agree

[spree43]

Maybe number 15 set the screen, I dont know

It kind of makes me wonder who would take a risk on anoter tall, skinny Euro perimeter player after recent times

Its hard for a rookie to adjust, let alone a guy from another country who isnt physically ready to contribute

And I really cant overestimate how much I dont like those attitude comments, I'd like to know the basis for them

Wall seems legit, he is going to be good as a rookie, and eventually turn into a star

This guy seems a bit questionable, and he would need time to develop

[Yung D-Will]

Maybe number 15 set the screen, I dont know

It kind of makes me wonder who would take a risk on anoter tall, skinny Euro perimeter player after recent times

Its hard for a rookie to adjust, let alone a guy from another country who isnt physically ready to contribute

And I really cant underestimate how much I dont like those attitude comments, I'd like to know the basis for them

Wall seems legit, he is going to be good as a rookie, and eventually turn into a star

This guy seems a bit questionable, and he would need time to develop

It depends I don't know how much his time playing against team Usa will help him for his Nba play

[PleezeBelieve]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JNjxJ8kmR0

Better quality
Ok, solid vid.

A couple of things...

*Guy is a legit 7'0 with length to match

*Has good hands. Easily finishes with either hand

*Has a pure stroke. Dude stroked a 3 like was nothing

*Seemed pretty auyomatic from the free throw line

*Certainly is a NBA threat right now in the post and off the catch and shoot

*Displayed passing skills from the post when he found the cutter baseline

*Has a dribble game off the bounce. Impressive


Now the few things I didn't really like...


*While skilled, he didnt always seem like the best player on the court. #15 was all over the court. Who is this guy?

*He has to finish stronger. Has good touch around the rim but I wanna see him punch half those layups

*Like his ability to dribble off the bounce, but where's the explosive firs step?

*Yung said he's a good man defender, but I didnt see it. In fact his help D was equally as bad


I watched on my cellphone, so I may have missed a few things. If I were a GM I'd really work this guy out multiple times against a variety of personnel. The skill is there but you have to wonder will his frame hold up at the NBA level. He's skinny as hell, but is he wire strong? Can he hold his position defending the post? These would have to answered pre-draft cause the guy is a 4 all the way. Not center (unless he bulls tremendously). Not a small forward. He's gotta be a power forward in this league.

[Yung D-Will]

Ok, solid vid.

A couple of things...

*Guy is a legit 7'0 with length to match

*Has good hands. Easily finishes with either hand

*Has a pure stroke. Dude stroked a 3 like was nothing

*Seemed pretty auyomatic from the free throw line

*Certainly is a NBA threat right now in the post and off the catch and shoot

*Displayed passing skills from the post when he found the cutter baseline

*Has a dribble game off the bounce. Impressive


Now the few things I didn't really like...


*While skilled, he didnt always seem like the best player on the court. #15 was all over the court. Who is this guy?

*He has to finish stronger. Has good touch around the rim but I wanna see him punch half those layups

*Like his ability to dribble off the bounce, but where's the explosive firs step?

*Yung said he's a good man defender, but I didnt see it. In fact his help D was equally as bad


I watched on my cellphone, so I may have missed a few things. If I were a GM I'd really work this guy out multiple times against a variety of personnel. The skill is there but you have to wonder will his frame hold up at the NBA level. He's skinny as hell, but is he wire strong? Can he hold his position defending the post? These would have to answered pre-draft cause the guy is a 4 all the way. Not center (unless he bulls tremendously). Not a small forward. He's gotta be a power forward in this league.

Lmao I might change that to an Alright defender cause I DIDN'T SEE IT EITHER.

And yea I want to know who number 15 was too :cheers:

[G-train]

And PB don't forget his motivational and attitude problems.
And the dude just doesn't carry himself well. He looks slouched and weak.

[Yung D-Will]

And PB don't forget his motivational and attitude problems.
And the dude just doesn't carry himself well. He looks slouched and weak.

I don't see the slouched part but he looks week because he is weak lol.

That's his main problem he needs to hit the gym

[Posterize246]

Too bad ISHers don't watch college ball so they could drool over Wesley Johnson. Not enough youtube vids out there for them to scout. You will be amazed.

[madmax]

Actually his game is tailor made for NBA ball...he likes having ball in his hands and is very comfortable playing 1 on 1, he should be doing well in US. The only thing he needs to omprove is his conditioning and bulk, but he's a hard worker and is doing fine now in italian club Treviso:rockon:

[Yung D-Will]

There's plenty more vids I just try to figure out what they're saying so it annoys me

[MeLO MvP 15]

he definitely has the skill, but the mental aspect might not be there... also look at the guys he is playing against (eventho some might be bigger than college players, euro league competition isnt the same)

i say which ever team gets him will get a really good player, but they might have to wait for him to develop his game to the nba

[Yung D-Will]

he definitely has the skill, but the mental aspect might not be there... also look at the guys he is playing against (eventho some might be bigger than college players, euro league competition isnt the same)

i say which ever team gets him will get a really good player, but they might have to wait for him to develop his game to the nba

Right now he's averaging 21.1 and 7.8 rebs I think

[lilmagicjohnson]

sounds like darko 2.0

[Yung D-Will]

sounds like darko 2.0


How so???

[t2r2s]

Donatas Motiejunas
Darko Milicic
:confusedshrug: :hammerhead:

[50inchvertical]

If I was a betting man, place all my chips on bust.

[Lakas Fan Yo]

Much better big men in Europe than him that the NBA should want. MUCH BETTER. Bourousis, Mozgov, Maric to name some of them.

[Lakas Fan Yo]

Right now he's averaging 21.1 and 7.8 rebs I think

He's averaging 6 points and 3 rebounds in the Italian League (which is the fourth best regional league in Europe behind the Spanish League, the Greek League, and the United League) and in the Eurocup (the league that is a level BELOW the Euroleague level) he is averaging 8 points and 2 rebounds. Please note he is not even in the Euroleague level yet.

Why do NBA fans always do this every year? Every year they pick out some European player that they know nothing about and go crazy over him and make up lies that he dominated in Europe or whatever. Last year it was Rubio and apparently this year it is Motiejunas.

Look, Motiejunas is a very talented player and he's already a pretty solid player now and he certainly can play in the NBA. However, there is nothing special about him at all and I doubt he would even become one of the best players in Europe.

He's extremely overrated by the NBA scouts just like Rubio. Valanciunas is probably better than him and that's just from his own Lithuanian youth team.

[Rekindled]

He's averaging 6 points and 3 rebounds in the Italian League and in the Eurocup (the league that is a level BELOW the Euroleague level) he is averaging 8 points and 2 rebounds. Please note he is not even in the Euroleague level yet.

Why do NBA fans always do this same crap every year? Every year they pick out some European player that they know nothing about and go crazy over him and make up lies that he dominated in Europe or whatever. Last year it was Rubio and apparently this year it is Motiejunas.

Look, Motiejunas is a very talented player and he's already a pretty solid player now and he certainly can play in the NBA. However there is nothing special about him at all and I doubt he would even become one of the best players in Europe.

He's extremely overrated by the NBA scouts just like Rubio.

ur KBP from spurstalk?

[K-Mart]

sounds like darko 2.0

So every Euro that is projected to go in the top 5 is the next Darko?

[Bodhi]

Lazy bigman with a lot of potential is the exact definition of Darko.

[ProfessorMurder]

He's 2 years younger than me :banghead:

[FindingTim]

watching these videos helped me understand the decision process behind drafting these white european, 7-foot, 3 point shooting prospects. there is so much skill there, and yes jay bilas, so much length, but it is tough to determine if they really have what it takes.

as for this guy: first of all, i think he looks pretty similar to me, despite being a foot taller. second, for being 7 feet, his quickness and agility is unreal. his ability to play off the dribble can only be compared to the great hakeem olajuwon (who, i should add, could kick this guys butt while 12 beers deep)

from what i saw---

Positives:
-7 feet tall
-freakishly quick for his size
-great free throw shooter
-good three point shooter
-aggressive offensive rebounder
-great ballhandler for his size
-left handed

Negatives:
-soft finisher
-inability to dominate
-sub mediocre defense
-same initials as Darko
-needs to eat more
-unlikely to grasp 'The Secret'

all in all, I am torn. he has the potential to be a nightmare mismatch, and he is much more athletic/fast/quick than effective 7 footers like Dirk, Bargnani etc.
On the other hand, if we have learned anything over the last 15 or so drafts, it's that overconfident tall Euro prospects with tricky last names almost never work out.

if I was a GM of a bottom-feeding NBA team, I'd be praying I get the top pick so i could just take Wall and not have to stress over this Donanitas Darkovic guy.

[Cermet]

I really doubt that he will be that high or even in the draft. I have seen this guy play im from the same country as he is and I dont really think hes ready for the NBA ...

[sergiorodriguez]

How so???
big man with physical talent and skill, but arrogance and mental problems, doesnt have the will to dominate even in Europe, poor work ethic, he's not all of the sudden going to gain work ethic and the will to dominate by coming to the NBA, his mental problems will still exist, just like the arrogant lump Darko.

Darko also had amazing quickness and agility for a 7 footer. Infact he was supposed to revolutionize the center position with his quickness and agility. Why didnt it happen? Arrogance, no work ethic, mental issues. This guy seems to have the same mentality as darko

[Yung D-Will]

big man with physical talent and skill, but arrogance and mental problems, doesnt have the will to dominate even in Europe, poor work ethic, he's not all of the sudden going to gain work ethic and the will to dominate by coming to the NBA, his mental problems will still exist, just like the arrogant lump Darko.

Darko also had amazing quickness and agility for a 7 footer. Infact he was supposed to revolutionize the center position with his quickness and agility. Why didnt it happen? Arrogance, no work ethic, mental issues. This guy seems to have the same mentality as darko

Do you know how many draftees that went in the nba had immaturity problems?

[sergiorodriguez]

Do you know how many draftees that went in the nba had immaturity problems?
did you know that 99% of draftees with the combination of poor work ethic and arrogance go on to become abject failures, Kwame, Darius Miles and Darko Milicic being the main examples?

[MeLO MvP 15]

this guy will prob see his draft stock lower a lot because of darco, yi and rubio

he think mayb like 8th pick....

he reminds me of Yi a lot... like skill set wise, not asian wise lol

[ElPigto]

He definitely needs some more muscle; 224 is not going to cut in the NBA.

[Lakas Fan Yo]

He definitely needs some more muscle; 224 is not going to cut in the NBA.

To be fair, there is no way that weight is accurate. Those draft sites usually list weights for European draft prospects from when they were like 15-16 years old.

[AAckley1]

Am I the only one who thinks he looks like a young Russell Crowe in that picture?

In other news, the kid has "DARKO" written over him like he fell asleep at a college party.

[Yung D-Will]

He's averaging 6 points and 3 rebounds in the Italian League (which is the fourth best regional league in Europe behind the Spanish League, the Greek League, and the United League) and in the Eurocup (the league that is a level BELOW the Euroleague level) he is averaging 8 points and 2 rebounds. Please note he is not even in the Euroleague level yet.

Why do NBA fans always do this every year? Every year they pick out some European player that they know nothing about and go crazy over him and make up lies that he dominated in Europe or whatever. Last year it was Rubio and apparently this year it is Motiejunas.

Look, Motiejunas is a very talented player and he's already a pretty solid player now and he certainly can play in the NBA. However, there is nothing special about him at all and I doubt he would even become one of the best players in Europe.

He's extremely overrated by the NBA scouts just like Rubio. Valanciunas is probably better than him and that's just from his own Lithuanian youth team.


European Roundup: Dominant Donatas?
February 6, 2009
Not every day do you find an 18-year-old kid leading a first-division European league in scoring. Well, Donatas Motiejunas just happens to be doing that in Lithuania this season. His 21.2 points per game are good for that top position, while an average of 7.4 boards leaves him second in the rebounding ranking. Of course Motiejunas is a super-talented player oozing with potential, perhaps the most promising big man in Europe in the last few years, but nobody should be misled by those whopping numbers.

I'm talking about the European leauge learn your facts before you accuse me

[Yung D-Will]

Apparently they moved him up to 3

[Lakas Fan Yo]

I'm talking about the European leauge learn your facts before you accuse me

Well you are wrong. Because the numbers I posted are correct.
It's always better to look for actual facts.

http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/ulebcup/home/on-court/players/showplayer?clubcode=TRE&pcode=LCZ

Those are his stats in the "European league". Currently, 7 points and 3 assists per game. And please keep in mind that is the SECOND TIER LEVEL "European league", not the first tier level one. And there is quite a big difference in the quality between the Eurocup (where he plays) and the top level Euroleague.

[Yung D-Will]

Well you are wrong. Because the numbers I posted are correct.
It's always better to look for actual facts.

http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/ulebcup/home/on-court/players/showplayer?clubcode=TRE&pcode=LCZ

Those are his stats in the "European league". And please keep in mind that is the SECOND TIER LEVEL "European league", not the first tier level one.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/European-Roundup-Dominant-Donatas-3101/

No there wrong.

[Lakas Fan Yo]

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/European-Roundup-Dominant-Donatas-3101/

No there wrong.

No you are wrong. And this is getting embarrassing.

[Yung D-Will]

No you are wrong. And this is getting embarrassing.



At just 18, Motiejunas lead the Lithuanian league in which he was playing with 21.2 PPG and was second in rebounding at 7.4 RPG. Though his numbers are nowhere near that in the Euroleague right now, that glimpse into what Motiejunas can provide make him an exciting prospect for an NBA team ready to wait a few years for his skills to be honed.
http://www.sports2debate.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=498:donatas-montiejumas&catid=116:centers&Itemid=133


Not every day do you find an 18-year-old kid leading a first-division European league in scoring. Well, Donatas Motiejunas just happens to be doing that in Lithuania this season. His 21.2 points per game are good for that top position, while an average of 7.4 boards leaves him second in the rebounding ranking. Of course Motiejunas is a super-talented player oozing with potential, perhaps the most promising big man in Europe in the last few years, but nobody should be misled by those whopping numbers.


http://www.draftexpress.com/article/European-Roundup-Dominant-Donatas-3101/

Presently leading the Lithuanian League in scoring (21.2ppg) and second in rebounding (7.4).
He is currently projected as pick #8 in round #1 of the 2010 NBA Draft, and supposed to be a legitimate NBA player in the nearest future.
We will be lucky to have him.
http://scouttowin.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=325&mode=linearplus

[Yung D-Will]

Anyhow more vids people

Videos: (he's wearing the white jersey #11)
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=kHiw8ZANXcE
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ92hs-8p8w
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=SJAhBePHCss
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=Bug1wOOz7oA

[vert48]

Just what the league needs. One of their perpetually under-performing teams, drafting a guy that has no work ethic.

[Yung D-Will]

Just what the league needs. One of their perpetually under-performing teams, drafting a guy that has no work ethic.

Just what Ish needs a sarcastic poster that contributed nothing to the thread

:applause:

[Lakas Fan Yo]

Once again, his actual stats are 7 points and 3 assists per game in the SECOND level league of Europe.

http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/ulebcup/home/on-court/players/showplayer?clubcode=TRE&pcode=LCZ

As anyone can see that looks at that, Yung D-Will is full of it.

[Yung D-Will]

Once again his actual stats 7 points and 3 assists per game in the SECOND level league of Europe.

http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/ulebcup/home/on-court/players/showplayer?clubcode=TRE&pcode=LCZ

As anyone can see that looks at that, Yung D-Will is full of it.

Guy im not talking about currently I'm talking about when he was playing for Lithuania

[vert48]

Just what Ish needs a sarcastic poster that contributed nothing to the thread

:applause:Read between the lines. My contribution was to say that the league has enough guys without work ethic playing on bad teams.

[Lakas Fan Yo]

Guy im not talking about currently I'm talking about when he was playing for Lithuania

Well you are wrong. Because as I pointed out that was not in the "European league". You seem to be confused. In the "European league" - he averages 7 and 3. And again, that's in the second best European league, not the top level Euroleague.

[Yung D-Will]

Maybe not at high as originally stated but don't be suprised at the season he's gonna have

[dgaras]

Too bad ISHers don't watch college ball so they could drool over Wesley Johnson. Not enough youtube vids out there for them to scout. You will be amazed.

college ball is the last thing scouts should take seriously.

[Purch]

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Foster5k]

bust!

A player like Gasol and Dirk are super rare. Euro players have a different mentality. Look how many years it took Dirk to finally grow into a champion. Gasol has always been labeled soft, etc. He would later team up with one of the greatest killer instincts in NBA history, Kobe Bryant, and get over the hump to win a championship.

[knickballer]

bust!

A player like Gasol and Dirk are super rare. Euro players have a different mentality. Look how many years it took Dirk to finally grow into a champion. Gasol has always been labeled soft, etc. He would later team up with one of the greatest killer instincts in NBA history, Kobe Bryant, and get over the hump to win a championship.

Or did Kobe team up with Gasol to get over his championship hump?

[Fallen Angel]

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